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Ryche 04-22-2025 08:05 PM

Luther Burden is going to make a team very happy. Really got lost with some awful quarterback play.

Honolulu_Blue 04-23-2025 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryche (Post 3462113)
Luther Burden is going to make a team very happy. Really got lost with some awful quarterback play.


I love watching him play. The other thing I've heard about Burden is that he's lazy and doesn't really work/try hard. I have no idea if that's true or not, but that's the other knock on him.

Ksyrup 04-24-2025 09:52 AM

I'm seeing several reports (as someone up-thread said, probably copying each others' reports) that Denver is getting calls at #20 from several unnamed teams. It seems that they are in the lucky position of picking right before Pittsburgh, who everyone expects to take a QB. So Denver's pick is looking like the point at which teams might want to jump Pitt to get a QB.

It will be interesting to see if Denver decides to trade back, or if they've got someone in mind where they really don't want to trade down and potentially lose that guy. They need RB and TE, and those are pretty deep positions. But if they've targeted one guy over others, it can be hard to move on.

JPhillips 04-24-2025 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 3462127)
I love watching him play. The other thing I've heard about Burden is that he's lazy and doesn't really work/try hard. I have no idea if that's true or not, but that's the other knock on him.


I'm out there busting my buns every night! Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes!

GrantDawg 04-24-2025 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3462177)
I'm seeing several reports (as someone up-thread said, probably copying each others' reports) that Denver is getting calls at #20 from several unnamed teams. It seems that they are in the lucky position of picking right before Pittsburgh, who everyone expects to take a QB. So Denver's pick is looking like the point at which teams might want to jump Pitt to get a QB.

It will be interesting to see if Denver decides to trade back, or if they've got someone in mind where they really don't want to trade down and potentially lose that guy. They need RB and TE, and those are pretty deep positions. But if they've targeted one guy over others, it can be hard to move on.

Keep spreading that, because I'd love to see the Falcons trade down from 15 and pick up some picks. Safer than waiting till 20 to get your guy.

Bobble 04-24-2025 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3462179)
I'm out there busting my buns every night! Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes!


I'm sorry, son, but you must have me confused with someone else. My name is Roger Murdock. I'm the co-pilot.

JonInMiddleGA 04-24-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 3462127)
I love watching him play. The other thing I've heard about Burden is that he's lazy and doesn't really work/try hard. I have no idea if that's true or not, but that's the other knock on him.


Saw a pretty good description of him online

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He rarely, if ever, runs clearout routes at full speed. If Burden isn’t expecting the ball, you shouldn’t expect 100% effort. He also offers next to nothing as a blocker, and generally doesn’t look interested in the parts of football that don’t involve him getting the football.

Danny 04-24-2025 12:42 PM

Egbuka looks like a high character guy id tarhet him over Burden then.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 12:58 PM

Can someone who watches SEC play give me their thoughts on Milroe? I know he's probably not going to be an NFL QB but he seems to have way more upside than some of the other guys being talked about.

Atocep 04-24-2025 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462191)
Can someone who watches SEC play give me their thoughts on Milroe? I know he's probably not going to be an NFL QB but he seems to have way more upside than some of the other guys being talked about.



Incredible athlete and the strongest arm in the draft. Nothing else is good. He's inaccurate, doesn't see the field well, and turns the ball over too much.



I'd take him over Shough. I don't think he's an NFL starter at all though. Hurts was way more polished and NFL ready and he was considered a project.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3462192)
Incredible athlete and the strongest arm in the draft. Nothing else is good. He's inaccurate, doesn't see the field well, and turns the ball over too much.

I'd take him over Shough. I don't think he's an NFL starter at all though. Hurts was way more polished and NFL ready and he was considered a project.


Thanks, that's kind of how I see him. I guess I'd rather take a project like Milroe over Dart or Shough who just don't have a ton of upside.

JonInMiddleGA 04-24-2025 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462191)
Can someone who watches SEC play give me their thoughts on Milroe? I know he's probably not going to be an NFL QB but he seems to have way more upside than some of the other guys being talked about.


I don't believe he's "him", nor ever will be. Strong arm, outstanding runner, but accuracy outside of the deep ball (and possible judgement on field) are enormous issues.

Also sacked 67 times in the past two years on top of nearly 350 rushing attempts, I'd almost start to be concerned about his mileage.

JonInMiddleGA 04-24-2025 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462194)
Thanks, that's kind of how I see him. I guess I'd rather take a project like Milroe over Dart or Shough who just don't have a ton of upside.


I'm not sure how much more ceiling Dart has to grow into but a pretty high mark from me for being competitor. I was not a believer in his Ole Miss career, but even with my doubts about the talent ceiling, he did win me over to not being anti- .

CrimsonFox 04-24-2025 05:57 PM

OH WOW it's time for the draft again! That came quick! Let's GO!
Predictions?

RainMaker 04-24-2025 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3462206)
I'm not sure how much more ceiling Dart has to grow into but a pretty high mark from me for being competitor. I was not a believer in his Ole Miss career, but even with my doubts about the talent ceiling, he did win me over to not being anti- .


He kind of reminds me a bit of a poor man's Mayfield. Maybe he pans out but I feel like he slots in as a good backup QB who can grind a win for you here and there. Somewhere in that Case Keenum to Gardner Minshew mold.

Atocep 04-24-2025 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462224)
Somewhere in that Case Keenum to Gardner Minshew mold.


I can see this. It's really hard to judge QBs in a Kiffin system because he makes life so easy for them.

Thomkal 04-24-2025 06:48 PM

May all your 1st round picks not be busts (unless you are the Jets)

Atocep 04-24-2025 07:03 PM

There's a strong belief that if Shadeur doesn't go the Giants at 3 then he may slide completely out of the first. The Saints don't look likely and the Steelers reportedly have their sights on other needs.

CrimsonFox 04-24-2025 07:08 PM

I have no idea what he just said

RainMaker 04-24-2025 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3462229)
There's a strong belief that if Shadeur doesn't go the Giants at 3 then he may slide completely out of the first. The Saints don't look likely and the Steelers reportedly have their sights on other needs.


The 5th year for 1st round picks makes me think someone would trade into the 1st round to grab him late.

CrimsonFox 04-24-2025 07:16 PM

Cam ward just does not look hsppy.

bhlloy 04-24-2025 07:18 PM

Has to be Travis Hunter now, no? And are the Browns now in on QB2?

Atocep 04-24-2025 07:18 PM

Holy shit, Jacksonville gave up a 2, a 4, and next year's 1 to move from 5 to 2.

CrimsonFox 04-24-2025 07:26 PM

Okay i love this guy . His dance moves his jacket hi s excite ment

QuikSand 04-24-2025 07:30 PM

LOVE that for the Browns. If they are Dart-curious now it's just easy AF to grab him somewhere. If not, they can still add two more high quality players in this draft in the top 40, and set themselves up for ammo to grab their QB next year.

Ksyrup 04-24-2025 07:39 PM

Agreed.

CrimsonFox 04-24-2025 07:42 PM

+1

Atocep 04-24-2025 07:47 PM

The Browns may win this draft if they don't fuck things up from here. Trading down and getting Graham is brilliant.

CrimsonFox 04-24-2025 07:48 PM

Clev needs a qb doesnt he?

CrimsonFox 04-24-2025 07:50 PM

There goes geanty. Raider!

Lathum 04-24-2025 08:16 PM

So glad the Giants didn't take Sanders. Hopefully Carter is an anchor on the D for the next 10 years.

Edward64 04-24-2025 08:51 PM

Happy to see UGA kid go to the Falcons

Kodos 04-24-2025 08:52 PM

And nice to add some defense.

Danny 04-24-2025 08:59 PM

Cleveland gonna build a winner around Joe Flacco and go for it all.

JPhillips 04-24-2025 09:01 PM

Hate the Stewart pick for the Bengals. He's been entirely forgettable in college.

Atocep 04-24-2025 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3462257)
Hate the Stewart pick for the Bengals. He's been entirely forgettable in college.


Sackseer, the former FO projection for edge guys, really likes him. PFF isn't as high but he graded really well for an edge against the run.

Edward64 04-24-2025 09:06 PM

Feeling a little for Shedeur. Reminds me little/some of Rodgers and his wait. Hope his isn’t as bad

Kodos 04-24-2025 09:06 PM

“Joe Burrow’s job just got harder”? Is Stewart going to tackle his teammate?

Thomkal 04-24-2025 09:11 PM

Cards went defense as I expected-guess it'll be nice to have Calais Campbell as a mentor now.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 09:21 PM

Does anyone else find the draft tough to watch? They were 4 picks behind at one point because they needed to do a bunch of crap like announcing that they will be announcing the schedule at a later date. They barely talk about the players. Kind of miss the old draft format.

JPhillips 04-24-2025 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3462259)
Sackseer, the former FO projection for edge guys, really likes him. PFF isn't as high but he graded really well for an edge against the run.


I just don't like how little production he had in college. It's another pick with the hope they develop but not offering much in year one.

JonInMiddleGA 04-24-2025 09:28 PM

One of the funnier bits of (I'm pretty sure) unintentional comedy I've seen from a media outlet in a while. I think we can all agree that making a driving reference to a UGA football player probbbbbably isn't imagery that anybody wanted.

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The Atlanta Falcons got themselves a true DAWG! Watch out 85 southbound, Jalon Walker is on his way to the Benz!

GrantDawg 04-24-2025 09:32 PM

Especially since he would be coming in from 78.

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bhlloy 04-24-2025 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3462266)
I just don't like how little production he had in college. It's another pick with the hope they develop but not offering much in year one.


The #1 DE in terms of physical metrics measured by RAS going back to 1987. Of course you can be that much of a physical freak and bust and the production in college is concerning, but I understand totally why you take that shot at that point in the draft.

Lathum 04-24-2025 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3462260)
Feeling a little for Shedeur. Reminds me little/some of Rodgers and his wait. Hope his isn’t as bad


I don't. He is an entitled little shit and his dad is an arrogant nightmare. He is the kind of pick that gets GMs fired.

Lathum 04-24-2025 09:46 PM

Is it just me or are there way less trades than usual?

Thomkal 04-24-2025 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3462271)
Is it just me or are there way less trades than usual?



Let us know if you need help after the Giants pick now :devil:

bhlloy 04-24-2025 09:53 PM

I really like both receivers taken before him and think they will be good NFL players, and yet I think Golden has a chance to be an absolute star in the league.

Good timing there Latham - got to be a QB but which one?

JonInMiddleGA 04-24-2025 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3462268)
Especially since he would be coming in from 78.

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Come to think of it, since they moved camp to Flowery Branch, you're right. Or at least, US 29 to GA 211

I honestly still think of them being in Suwanee ... even though they haven't been there since 1998 (which is absolutely crazy to me to realize)

Lathum 04-24-2025 09:55 PM

Fuck me.


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