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miked 04-23-2025 01:27 PM

They just axed the women's health initiative, which started in the 1990s and has treated over 100,000 women in clinical trials and actually studied diseases in women. The funding, around $10M a year, probably led to countless discoveries and improved women's health exponentially, considering there were few studies on women prior.

Yet he will still somehow get 45% of the female vote.

GrantDawg 04-23-2025 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3462138)
Id never heard of my wife when I was a kid, so I'm pretty sure she doesn't exist

Who are all you people?

RainMaker 04-23-2025 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by miked (Post 3462144)
They just axed the women's health initiative, which started in the 1990s and has treated over 100,000 women in clinical trials and actually studied diseases in women. The funding, around $10M a year, probably led to countless discoveries and improved women's health exponentially, considering there were few studies on women prior.

Yet he will still somehow get 45% of the female vote.


The brain drain in this country is going to be insane and it's all over a comically irrelevant amount of money. Especially when this research leads to innovations in medicine that make billions.

Saw France pushing a new program to lure scientists over from the United States. Guessing we'll see a lot of companies follow suit. This is cultural revolution type stuff.

PilotMan 04-23-2025 03:37 PM

Don't worry. We will be all about standing for the pledge, the anthem, God Bless America and shouting free-dumb at the tops of our lungs (and that's ALL we'll be about).

RainMaker 04-23-2025 03:45 PM

I mentioned this a week or two ago and glad to see a Governor doing it. I think all Dem governors should jump on board to put pressure on a country holding people illegally in a concentration camp.

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GrantDawg 04-24-2025 07:57 AM

Those leopards are just feasting on the faces.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/23/weath...oes/index.html

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JPhillips 04-24-2025 08:00 AM

Trump is promising to have dinner with the 220 people who give him the most money. The corruption is bottomless.

dubb93 04-24-2025 08:24 AM

The man who has filed for bankruptcy six times saying that student loan debt simply can't be forgiven is pretty on point.

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Debt cannot be wiped away.


flere-imsaho 04-24-2025 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3462166)
Those leopards are just feasting on the faces.


Thoughts and prayers.

Atocep 04-24-2025 10:36 AM

The president of the united states has taken to social media to beg Putin to stop attacking Kiev and sign a peace deal. What a time to be alive.

flere-imsaho 04-24-2025 11:23 AM

I'm surprised he had time for that while he was also begging China to drop their tariffs. A lot of begging, not so much winning.

flere-imsaho 04-24-2025 11:53 AM

RFK Jr's comments on autism were bad enough. Now he proposes a national registry to track all people with autism. You know who also did that? The Nazis. Why did they do that? Good question. Turns out, so they could euthanize them later.

Atocep 04-24-2025 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3462184)
RFK Jr's comments on autism were bad enough. Now he proposes a national registry to track all people with autism. You know who also did that? The Nazis. Why did they do that? Good question. Turns out, so they could euthanize them later.



Fake news. Child disabilities weren't a thing prior to vaccines and anyone that says vaccines were around in the 1930s and 40s are liars.

Atocep 04-24-2025 12:27 PM

Trump is expected to start the process of trying to shut down ActBlue today through presidential memo announcing an investigation.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3462180)
The president of the united states has taken to social media to beg Putin to stop attacking Kiev and sign a peace deal. What a time to be alive.


Stepping back, it's an insane fall for America. You have the President begging a foreign leader to stop bombing on maybe the 40th most popular social media app in the world. ChatGPT is writing our trade policy while the President plans a dinner for people who invest the most money in his imaginary coin. The Secretary of Defense is drunk 24/7 and we're deporting permanent residents for the crime of not liking a tiny pariah state in the Middle East.

All this is a downgrade from the previous President who had dementia and let Netanyahu run the country for the final 16 months of his Presidency.

Downfalls of empires are messy and this is sure going to be an interesting ride.

flere-imsaho 04-24-2025 02:30 PM

In good news, though, both Dick Durbin and Jan Shakowsky (U.S. Senate & U.S. House from IL, respectively, both dems) are retiring, which is great because they're both over 80 and IL has a strong bench of progressive politicians who are considerably under 80.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 03:05 PM

Schakowsky is only retiring because she has a progressive primary challenger that is raising a lot of money and the rumor is that she is up in internal polling. Her stepping down also opens the door for more moderate candidates which the establishment will want.

The Senate seat is pretty fascinating. Underwood would be terrific if she actually runs. There's a few other decent names. The DC establishment are going to try and get behind Rahm which is why he's been doing a redemption tour around media. That would be a disaster so it'll be an interesting fight between establishment and rising members of the party.

The most Dem move would be the party pushing super hard for Rahm to win the primary and then lose in the general to some moderate Republican because everyone in Chicago hates Rahm.

Lathum 04-24-2025 03:08 PM

Trump at the White House claiming both sides want peace 12 hours after the worst bombing in months.

So much winning.

flere-imsaho 04-24-2025 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462208)
Schakowsky is only retiring because she has a progressive primary challenger that is raising a lot of money and the rumor is that she is up in internal polling.


I doubt this considerably. There is no way Schakowsky loses that seat. I'm willing to believe people with her ear used the interest in a primary challenge as a way to convince her it was time to let one of her proteges run for it, who will have, as you point out, the full weight of the establishment behind them.

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The Senate seat is pretty fascinating. Underwood would be terrific if she actually runs. There's a few other decent names. The DC establishment are going to try and get behind Rahm which is why he's been doing a redemption tour around media. That would be a disaster so it'll be an interesting fight between establishment and rising members of the party.

An Underwood vs. Krishnamoorthi primary race would be a good one with two terrific candidates. I agree with you on Rahm. Hopefully that one can get stopped before it gets started.

Ghost Econ 04-24-2025 05:13 PM

Get your Trump 2028 hats while they're hot. Rewrite the rules.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3462214)
I doubt this considerably. There is no way Schakowsky loses that seat. I'm willing to believe people with her ear used the interest in a primary challenge as a way to convince her it was time to let one of her proteges run for it, who will have, as you point out, the full weight of the establishment behind them.


It's a progressive district and Schakowsky has been progressive for a good chunk of her career. But I can't overstate how toxic the Israel stuff is right now. And the backlash against establishment Dems who have sat on their hands the past decade as fascism rolled in.

Maybe with the backing of the party, she'd pull that primary out, but there's a lot of support for other candidates in that district popping up and it would not be an easy race.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 05:27 PM

This party is so fucking cooked.

Just a moment...

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In the first of a series of speeches about the Democratic Party’s path out of the wilderness, the Michigan senator said she will span everything from strategy to tactics and tone, acknowledging public perception of the party as “weak and woke” needs to change. She is urging Democrats to “fucking retake the flag” with appeals to voters’ sense of patriotism, to adopt “the goddamn Alpha energy” of Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell and to embrace an “airing out” of potential 2028 presidential candidates in a broadly contested primary.

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Her strategy also focuses on language and tone. She said Democrats should stop using the term “oligarchy,” a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes “kings.”

JPhillips 04-24-2025 05:44 PM

She's totally right about kings. Dems always want to find a better word, but simple and broadly understandable is better politics.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 06:04 PM

They literally just ran on that and it failed. She doesn't like the word oligarchy because her family is part of the oligarchy in Michigan.

Danny 04-24-2025 07:14 PM

I actually think shes right. In retrospect Kamala was never going to win after being the VP to a bad unpopular president and there not being a primary.

RainMaker 04-24-2025 07:22 PM

Kamala literally ran on the patriotism and democracy Schick and got cooked. The Dems have been pushing this for over 8 years and people just don't care anymore.

This isn't about strategy, Dems just don't want to run against the rich because that's who they serve as well.

Danny 04-24-2025 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462238)
Kamala literally ran on the patriotism and democracy Schick and got cooked. The Dems have been pushing this for over 8 years and people just don't care anymore.

This isn't about strategy, Dems just don't want to run against the rich because that's who they serve as well.


Again people vote for vibes mostly. If you had someone likeable and charismatic (and likely male) who runs the exact same campaign, they likely win

RainMaker 04-24-2025 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3462255)
Again people vote for vibes mostly. If you had someone likeable and charismatic (and likely male) who runs the exact same campaign, they likely win


AOC and Bernie are filling arenas up talking about oligarchy. Those are maybe the vibes that are good and not "let's be nice to billionaires".

Lathum 04-25-2025 08:29 AM

Just staggering incompetency

Trump administration sent letter of demands to Harvard University in error, NYT reports | CNN

flere-imsaho 04-25-2025 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462216)
It's a progressive district and Schakowsky has been progressive for a good chunk of her career. But I can't overstate how toxic the Israel stuff is right now. And the backlash against establishment Dems who have sat on their hands the past decade as fascism rolled in.


So, at the risk of doxxing myself, I live in her district. I agree it would likely have been a challenging primary, but I very much doubt she would have lost. It's easy to look at the district, see Evanston, and figure you have an AOC situation, but all these communities in this district have a lot of middle-aged progressive folks who vote in every primary election (because they vote for schools and local elections) and they would have stayed with Schakowsky, even if, like me, they would have preferred that she retire.

flere-imsaho 04-25-2025 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462263)
AOC and Bernie are filling arenas up talking about oligarchy. Those are maybe the vibes that are good and not "let's be nice to billionaires".


Vibes aren't just one thing, RM.

HerRealName 04-25-2025 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3462290)
So, at the risk of doxxing myself, I live in her district. I agree it would likely have been a challenging primary, but I very much doubt she would have lost. It's easy to look at the district, see Evanston, and figure you have an AOC situation, but all these communities in this district have a lot of middle-aged progressive folks who vote in every primary election (because they vote for schools and local elections) and they would have stayed with Schakowsky, even if, like me, they would have preferred that she retire.


I thought we were all doxable to each other at this point. :)

flere-imsaho 04-25-2025 08:49 AM

OK, fair. :)

flere-imsaho 04-25-2025 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3462219)
She's totally right about kings. Dems always want to find a better word, but simple and broadly understandable is better politics.


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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3462223)
They literally just ran on that and it failed. She doesn't like the word oligarchy because her family is part of the oligarchy in Michigan.


Oligarchy is a big word. You overestimate the electorate, RM.

"Trump thinks he's a king who only wants to help his billionaire friends" is the type of thing we're going for here.

BTW, RM, do you think Sanders should retire? He's the second-oldest Senator currently serving.

Noop 04-25-2025 09:28 AM

I wish Democrats would actually just put up someone who is electable. AOC and Bernie are cool social media soundbytes but the average person who is not automatically inclined to vote blue probably will not vote for either.

Kamala probably was a better choice than Trump. The issue with her is people saw her and implicitly (explicitly for those who were already right leaning) thought Obama and Hillary.

RainMaker 04-25-2025 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop (Post 3462296)
AOC and Bernie are cool social media soundbytes but the average person who is not automatically inclined to vote blue probably will not vote for either.


Bernie is too old to run but he scores better than any of the Democrats not named Barack Obama with Republicans. He's the only major politician in both parties with a positive net favorability.

I just don't understand this obsession that Democrats have to run as Republicans to win. Those Republican voters never cross over. All it does is anger your base, alienate non-political voters, and lose.

HerRealName 04-25-2025 11:31 AM

The fascists are arresting judges now. It seems likely that ICE didn't have a warrant.


https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...e/83270885007/


Edit to add that there may have been a warrant. There are conflicting reports. I've been following Seth Abramson on this story.

Atocep 04-25-2025 11:32 AM

I guess the FBI is arresting judges now.

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Lathum 04-25-2025 11:47 AM

They were talking about this on the radio today and basically treated it like a minor story when in any other world this would be a bombshell story.

Lathum 04-25-2025 11:47 AM

They aren't even hiding it anymore....

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news...proposal-leak/

Lathum 04-25-2025 11:59 AM

Judge threw the book at him. Maybe this will be a lesson to MAGA zealots that you can't get away with the things Trump does. Not only did he commit crimes, but he took to social media calling it a witch-hunt, etc...showing no remorse or accountability and that surely factored in to his sentencing.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...-ny-rcna202958

Lathum 04-25-2025 12:01 PM

dola- will be interesting to see if Trump pardons him. My guess is no. Not even Trump wants that stench on him.

Atocep 04-26-2025 09:53 PM

In the next month or so Trump is going to pass Biden on number of executive orders signed during his term.

Remember when the GOP complained that Obama signed too many executive orders?

Thomkal 04-27-2025 02:15 PM

So Columbus Day is back-man I am glad we have a President who respects history so much:


@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social on Bluesky

Atocep 04-27-2025 02:33 PM

Bessent is so over this shit.

reuters.com

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U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent on Sunday did not back President Donald Trump's assertion that tariff talks with China were under way and said he did not know if the U.S. president had talked to Chinese President Xi Jinping.

kingfc22 04-27-2025 02:52 PM

Can’t wait for his book. All these clowns who willingly took these positions and allow for this to go on can rot in a Salvadoran prison camp.

Lathum 04-28-2025 10:28 AM

He chooses to post this on Election Day in Canada. It is unreal.


Mota 04-28-2025 11:11 AM

With 99% certainty, Trump's interference will directly result in a left wing government to be elected in Canada today (it was 90% Conservative odds until he started talking about the 51st state). Hope he's happy.

Lathum 04-28-2025 11:41 AM

Swing district rep Mike Lawler gets roasted in Town Hall.

New York Republican faces jeers, boos at town hall on Sunday

Passacaglia 04-28-2025 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mota (Post 3462505)
With 99% certainty, Trump's interference will directly result in a left wing government to be elected in Canada today (it was 90% Conservative odds until he started talking about the 51st state). Hope he's happy.


I guess he'll have to live with the silver lining that he'll still be able to deport people who make wrong turns and end up going across the Ambassador Bridge.


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