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SirFozzie 04-02-2025 04:00 PM

I feel in two minds with regards to the healthy food stuff.. I am that type of person described above: I am a bonafide soda addict (to the point where I got a sodastream because I need to limit my consumption of coca-cola to one can a day, and sodastream soda is MUCH healthier than store-bought soda (not that it's HEALTHY, per se, but MUCH less bad then Soda in a can, because of all the preservatives)

I also have trouble with my health conditions in that I find it very hard (if not impossible to cook healthy, mostly because I don't have the ability to do more then throw a protein in the stove, and maybe some frozen vegetables to go with it.). If it wasn't for the fact that someone else cooks a lot of the stuff for me, I'd be eating a lot more unhealthier then I do because it's all I can make.

dubb93 04-02-2025 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3460764)
I'm not arguing that one way or the other, but I see both sides. When you live off a diet of Mountain Dew and Little Debbies you then become a burden on the healthcare system and I suspect these people are on government healthcare as well.


The healthcare system is a burden on itself and it passes that burden onto its customers.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3460764)
I'm not arguing that one way or the other, but I see both sides. When you live off a diet of Mountain Dew and Little Debbies you then become a burden on the healthcare system and I suspect these people are on government healthcare as well.


You actually die younger and are less of a burden to our health system and social security.

It's just a weird thing to micromanage. It's just done to be cruel to people in need and take away their agency.

Passacaglia 04-02-2025 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3460767)
I feel in two minds with regards to the healthy food stuff.. I am that type of person described above: I am a bonafide soda addict (to the point where I got a sodastream because I need to limit my consumption of coca-cola to one can a day, and sodastream soda is MUCH healthier than store-bought soda (not that it's HEALTHY, per se, but MUCH less bad then Soda in a can, because of all the preservatives)

I also have trouble with my health conditions in that I find it very hard (if not impossible to cook healthy, mostly because I don't have the ability to do more then throw a protein in the stove, and maybe some frozen vegetables to go with it.). If it wasn't for the fact that someone else cooks a lot of the stuff for me, I'd be eating a lot more unhealthier then I do because it's all I can make.


Have you thought about Waterloo or other sparkling water? That's helped me a lot.

Lathum 04-02-2025 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 3460769)
The healthcare system is a burden on itself and it passes that burden onto its customers.


You'll get no argument from me.

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3460770)
You actually die younger and are less of a burden to our health system and social security.

It's just a weird thing to micromanage. It's just done to be cruel to people in need and take away their agency.


that's morbid but probably accurate

RainMaker 04-02-2025 04:14 PM

Yeah I'm not sure on obesity but Sweden or some nordic country did a long study on smoking prevention. They found that it actually cost more long term if you didn't smoke. Guessing the bills add up when you live to 95 as opposed to dying at 60.

GrantDawg 04-02-2025 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 3460760)
I actually work with the population that uses SNAP. I’m going to be real honest. Alot of them can’t cook. Some of them don’t have working stoves. What are those people going to do with only fresh product?

I'm not saying they should. That's a GOP pipe dream. I don't think removing sodas and candy from SNAP is that big a deal, or "fascist." They don't allow the purchase of hot meals. Is that fascist? And on a side note, I really which people would stop cheapening that word. There are things that MAGA are doing that are fascist, this isn't even in the realm.

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Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 3460760)
I also work with the WIC population. Why would the restrictions they have piss me off? If they needed SNAP they would have it too. WIC is targeted to a very specific circumstance. SNAP is just about feeding people.

WIC (in part) and SNAP is about feeding people. WIC and SNAP both have restrictions on what could be bought, WIC even more than SNAP.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 04:22 PM

I wouldn't say it's about feeding people. It was setup as a bailout to farmers.

dubb93 04-02-2025 04:24 PM

Room rate at $300 a day adds up pretty quick when you live to be 100.

GrantDawg 04-02-2025 04:31 PM

What, WIC? Both of my children were on WIC. It was a life saver for us. Restrictive, but we were very grateful for it. If it is a subsidy for for farmers, then thank God for farm subsidies.


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GrantDawg 04-02-2025 04:32 PM

Some of you have never been poor, and it shows.

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SirFozzie 04-02-2025 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3460771)
Have you thought about Waterloo or other sparkling water? That's helped me a lot.


Trust me, I've tried everything. My brother's fridge's chiller has several types of flavored water, sparkling ice, and three bottles of cold water to be used with the soda-stream (thank goodness the bottles are reusable).After all these years, my body craves that sugar hit and the bite of Coca-cola's "taste"

Just to provide a thing of how much the sodastream is helping.. one can (12 oz) of Coke (like the one I just used to take 15 pills of meds) has 140 calories, and 39g of sugar/carbs.

Root beer (They don't have coca-cola, sadly, since sodastream is owned by Pepsi), 24 oz, has NINETY calories and 24g of carbs/sugars. That's huge, especially for someone like me who was drinking three-four cans of the stuff a day. That, along with the zepbound (which thankfully I now don't have to pay for out of pocket, as it's covered by MassHealth) has led to me dropping approximately 45 pounds so far.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 04:40 PM

What about diet or zero sugar sodas? There are so many out there that are really good tasting.

SirFozzie 04-02-2025 04:45 PM

My brother HATES those with an ungodly passion (he was the one who got me a sodastream as a christmas gift), the artificial sweetners in there are in their own way as unhealthy to the body as the sugar-laden sodas.

Ghost Econ 04-02-2025 04:47 PM

So it seems the tariffs rollout was even dumber than expected.

Atocep 04-02-2025 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3460784)
So it seems the tariffs rollout was even dumber than expected.


It's absolutely insane to put out tariffs like this and give a few hours notice. I can't imagine trying to work in retail distribution right now.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3460783)
My brother HATES those with an ungodly passion (he was the one who got me a sodastream as a christmas gift), the artificial sweetners in there are in their own way as unhealthy to the body as the sugar-laden sodas.


I don't know. There really is no real evidence that artificial sweeteners are dangerous. Nothing anywhere near as dangerous as real sugar sodas that pack 150 calories a can.

I'm a soda addict and I'd be like 50 pounds heavier if it wasn't for diet sodas.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 05:03 PM

I think they used ChatGPT or something to come up with the tariffs because they are levying tariffs on islands that have no one living on them.

Ghost Econ 04-02-2025 05:13 PM

They seem to do policy like how I wrote term papers in college. Have a deadline then just stay up all night eating Papa Johns and mainlining Coca Cola to come up with shit at the last possible moment without actually reading the material.

QuikSand 04-02-2025 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3460784)
So it seems the tariffs rollout was even dumber than expected.




I have no capacity or time to sort out whether this is true, but... if it is, HOLY FUCK are these people stupid.

I am equally appalled and unsurprised.

And I need to get out of these threads.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 05:36 PM

I think they added the "Including currency manipulation and trade barriers" party because you can just make up any number you want.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 05:38 PM

Also just from a geopolitical standpoint, why would you put tariffs on Taiwan? Why would you make tariffs on Vietnam and others in the region higher than China? You're just fucking yourself over.

NobodyHere 04-02-2025 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3460793)
You're just fucking yourself over.


Our country's new motto!

RainMaker 04-02-2025 05:42 PM

Holy shit the weighted average tariff is higher than Smoot-Hawley. Incredible things going to happen with the economy.

NobodyHere 04-02-2025 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3460795)
Holy shit the weighted average tariff is higher than Smoot-Hawley. Incredible things going to happen with the economy.


Yeah, congress really needs to take aways Trump's ability to control tariffs.

bhlloy 04-02-2025 06:25 PM

Basically gambling the entire US economy, the largest economy in the world and the global economy on the premise that US consumers will continue to consume the same amount of stuff but pay more for it. If he's wrong on that, then it won't matter if in 5-10 years more stuff is made in the US because the scale of the recession will make it a totally moot point.

It's a bold strategy. Just from sheer morbid curiosity I'm fascinated to see what happens next.

Ghost Econ 04-02-2025 06:28 PM

So you're saying Pepper Brooks is running the US economy.

Lathum 04-02-2025 06:34 PM


GrantDawg 04-02-2025 06:41 PM

Bout time those penguins payed their way. Free loading flightless pieces of crap.

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JPhillips 04-02-2025 06:42 PM

Only two countries came out of this with no tariff.

Russia
North Korea

Are you fucking kidding?

Lathum 04-02-2025 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460801)
Only two countries came out of this with no tariff.

Russia
North Korea

Are you fucking kidding?


further advertising to the world how far we have fallen.

GrantDawg 04-02-2025 06:51 PM

They put a tariff on Diego Garcia. That is OUR military base.

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PilotMan 04-02-2025 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3460779)
Some of you have never been poor, and it shows.

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WIC 3 times, and SNAP twice. It was a lifesaver for us.

Mota 04-02-2025 07:41 PM

Well my business just got borked. Guess where all those great Switch 2 games that were announced today originate from? Japan. And all PS5/XBSX product originates from the EU.

Passacaglia 04-02-2025 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3460799)


Someone's been playing worldle

Passacaglia 04-02-2025 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 3460797)
Basically gambling the entire US economy, the largest economy in the world and the global economy on the premise that US consumers will continue to consume the same amount of stuff but pay more for it. If he's wrong on that, then it won't matter if in 5-10 years more stuff is made in the US because the scale of the recession will make it a totally moot point.

It's a bold strategy. Just from sheer morbid curiosity I'm fascinated to see what happens next.


Not to mention the campaign was based on the previous administration was responsible for US consumers having to pay more for the same amount of stuff. You'd think it would be the one thing they make sure to avoid.

Atocep 04-02-2025 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3460803)
They put a tariff on Diego Garcia. That is OUR military base.

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They also labeled Ecuador a currency manipulator. They use the US Dollar.

RainMaker 04-02-2025 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3460799)


In fairness, according to his chart, the penguins have been placing a 10% taroff on us.

JPhillips 04-02-2025 10:12 PM

What a dumb way for this admin to state that Taiwan is s country separate from China.

Atocep 04-02-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3460815)
In fairness, according to his chart, the penguins have been placing a 10% taroff on us.



Pesto the penguin got fat off those tariffs.

GrantDawg 04-03-2025 07:26 AM

"The penguins on the Heard and McDonald Islands announce they are putting 30% tariffs on US goods."

Fidatelo 04-03-2025 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3460788)
I think they used ChatGPT or something to come up with the tariffs because they are levying tariffs on islands that have no one living on them.



It appears that not only did they likely use ChatGPT to calculate the tariffs, they might even have gotten the idea itself from AI.


https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1907587352157106292

NobodyHere 04-03-2025 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 3460830)
It appears that not only did they likely use ChatGPT to calculate the tariffs, they might even have gotten the idea itself from AI.


https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1907587352157106292


It's like SkyNet decided to use economic war to destroy humanity instead of a nuclear war.

Lathum 04-03-2025 08:05 AM

A day after destroying the stock market Trump will be attending a Saudi run LIV golf tournament.

Could you imagine if Biden did anything close?

bryce 04-03-2025 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3460833)
A day after destroying the stock market Trump will be attending a Saudi run LIV golf tournament.


I imagine he short the market heavily to profit immensely.

Ghost Econ 04-03-2025 10:37 AM

So evidently Matt Waltz's punishment for the Signal chat was having to watch Trump get a BJ from a wannabe trans-woman and then having her tell you to fire people.

White House fires three NSC staffers after president meets with far-right activist Laura Loomer | CNN Politics

Atocep 04-03-2025 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3460846)
So evidently Matt Waltz's punishment for the Signal chat was having to watch Trump get a BJ from a wannabe trans-woman and then having her tell you to fire people.

White House fires three NSC staffers after president meets with far-right activist Laura Loomer | CNN Politics





Supposedly most people around Trump think Waltz should be fired but Trump won't do it. I think it's an ego thing. He wants to fire people on his terms, not what others want and he probably she's firing Waltz and a win for dems and the media.

JPhillips 04-03-2025 11:46 AM

Layoff announcements starting to roll in. Still small total numbers, but an ominous sign.

Lathum 04-03-2025 11:50 AM

Going to be a lot of "but I didn't think the leopards would eat my face" interviews coming up...

Ghost Econ 04-03-2025 11:53 AM

Given how many people have been let go from federal jobs, I can't believe that unemployment somehow went down at the last announcement.

That being said, I'm possibly leaving the job I just started to beat getting fired for lack of work (govt contract related). I have 1 firm offer and 1 that I have a final interview tomorrow where they said to expect an offer.


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