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RainMaker 03-19-2025 04:48 PM

DOGE along with the help of local police illegally entered private property. No charges filed of course.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...er-musk-trump/

Flasch186 03-19-2025 09:24 PM

Having a child with a 504 & an IEP puts me right in the cross hairs of the department of education closure. Big unknowns ahead.


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Edward64 03-20-2025 05:42 AM

It was pretty obvious we're headed down this path. Just another article confirming it.

I do wonder how quickly SCOTUS can act on the growing pipeline coming up (hopefully) soon e.g. how do they prioritize cases, will they defer a bunch of already scheduled ones to take on all/many of the new Trump ones.

Trump administration unfazed by court losses and sets sights on Supreme Court | CNN Politics
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Even before President Donald Trump retook office, his advisers expected that his executive orders and other policy moves would face immediate legal challenges. It was expected that those challenges would be filed in districts that were friendly to challengers and would result in initial losses for the administration.

That has been the case. Over 160 lawsuits have been filed against various administration policies, Attorney General Pam Bondi said Wednesday on Fox News. They are often in jurisdictions with mostly or all Democratic-appointed judges such as Boston, Maryland, Seattle and Washington, DC, though that doesn’t guarantee success for the plaintiffs.

But the Trump legal strategy has always been a long game designed to get these questions before the conservative supermajority at the Supreme Court where his lawyers believe Trump will prevail in his expansive use of executive power. A recent string of court losses has not deterred the administration from continuing to pursue this strategy.

Atocep 03-20-2025 09:55 AM

SCOTUS is just part of the equation. The plan with this 2nd administration is to flood the judicial and some of these cases are going to land in front of a sympathetic judge. If they attack immigration policy from 100 different angles all at the same time the judicial can't keep up and some stuff is going to get through and get abused for some time even in the event SCOTUS eventually rules against them.

Atocep 03-20-2025 10:31 AM

Our commerce secretary made a TV appearance to urge people to buy stock in a company owned by a billionaire working within the administration. I have to assume that's illegal as hell but Elon can just fire anyone that investigates.

Flasch186 03-20-2025 10:37 AM

Also the stuff that is being broken along the way cannot be put back together again if a court intervenes. Feature not a bug.


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flere-imsaho 03-20-2025 11:22 AM

It's basically what Trump did in business: lock up everything in litigation and then continue what you're doing anyway until the legal process has finally, fully, been exhausted. The main difference being that he only needs to stall through the judiciary for 4 years. And if he gets the chance to replace Sotomayor, Kagan, or Roberts, he'll likely have a SCOTUS who will let him do whatever he wants anyway. Win-win-win.

JPhillips 03-21-2025 08:20 AM

Trump is now threatening to send US citizens to be tortured in El Salvador.

Passacaglia 03-21-2025 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3460000)
I'm hoping we can take back porch monkey next.

Trump Ends Segregated Facilities Ban

Yes, I know there are still laws, but when the administration says laws they don't like don't matter...


I'm surprised this didn't become a bigger deal.

Ghost Econ 03-21-2025 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460190)
Trump is now threatening to send US citizens to be tortured in El Salvador.


He's just joking, but also Trump is a straight shooter and means everything he says.

Edward64 03-21-2025 03:04 PM

Thanks, Joe Rogan.

There's plenty of other countries to pick fights with, Canada is just not one of them ... especially since about 60% of US crude comes from Canada.

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Rogan, who voted for Trump and welcomed him on his show, said: 'Why are we upset at Canada? This is stupid, this over tariffs We got to become friends with Canada again, this is so ridiculous.

'I can't believe there is anti American, anti Canadian sentiment going on. 'It's the dumbest f****** feud.

'I just want America and Canada to get along, I think it's ridiculous. And I don't think they should be our 51st state.'


Likely won't affect Trump much, but maybe some of their shared supporters will gravitate towards Rogan's POV.

JPhillips 03-21-2025 03:36 PM

Commerce Secretary is floating the idea of seniors not getting their Social Security checks for a month as a way to find fraud.

Good fucking luck with that.

Edward64 03-21-2025 03:50 PM

Lots of good stuff in the article, worth the read. Nothing surprising but article has some polling nos.

Just a moment...
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Just 40 percent of Democrats approve of the job performance of congressional Democrats, compared to 49 percent who disapprove. That’s a dramatic change from this time last year, when 75 percent of Democrats approved compared to just 21 percent who disapproved. The Democratic base’s disillusionment runs so deep that it’s eerily reminiscent of Republican grassroots sentiment in the period leading up to Donald Trump’s takeover of the Republican Party.
I vote for more moderate but I can easily see them go more left, as the old guard fades, and roll the dice on younger leaders.

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Despite the restive energy in the party’s progressive wing, the Democratic discontent does not seem to be centered around a desire to pull the party to the left or the right. Democrats cannot seem to agree on which direction the party should move in — recent Gallup polling found that 45 percent wanted the party to become more moderate, while 29 percent felt it should become more liberal, and 22 percent wanted it to stay the same.

RainMaker 03-21-2025 04:06 PM

They did go moderate and got their ass kicked. Just as they did in 2016. How many times can you trust Lucy to hold that football for you?

JPhillips 03-21-2025 05:51 PM

They always go more moderate and sometimes that wins. I don't think policy matters much once you have a brand, though. If they could commit to fighting for anything it would be a good start.

Danny 03-21-2025 06:22 PM

I think weve seen that in todays world the candidate and their vibes are more important than their policy and positions

JPhillips 03-21-2025 07:04 PM

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Doocy: The judge wants to know why the proclamation was signed in the dark

Trump: I don’t know when it was signed. I didn’t sign it. Other people handled it.

There's a picture of his signature on this order. Is his signature faked? Is his mind total mush? There should be some followup.

Ksyrup 03-21-2025 08:00 PM

Auto-pen!

JPhillips 03-21-2025 10:06 PM

Trump ordered DoJ and DHS to go after any attorneys who sue the government.

RainMaker 03-21-2025 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460211)
They always go more moderate and sometimes that wins. I don't think policy matters much once you have a brand, though. If they could commit to fighting for anything it would be a good start.


When was the last time that won?

JPhillips 03-22-2025 07:12 AM

I'm so old I remember 2020.

flere-imsaho 03-22-2025 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460206)
Commerce Secretary is floating the idea of seniors not getting their Social Security checks for a month as a way to find fraud.


I'm 100% for this. If there's one thing the vast swathes of MAGA voters in Appalachia and other similar parts of the country hate more than anything, it's anyone fucking with "their" ill-gotten SSDI "draw". I know literally nothing has turned them off Trump, but this might.

Surprised JD "Hillbily Elegy Couch Fucker" Vance didn't tell Trump this.

RainMaker 03-22-2025 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460223)
I'm so old I remember 2020.


He ran on student loan forgiveness, free college, raising the minimum wage, universal preschool, paid family leave, ending wars, expanding public health, increasing SS, and huge plans for infrastructure upgrades and clean energy. They were talking about it as New Deal-esque. One of the most progressive campaigns a Dem has run in ages.

JPhillips 03-22-2025 02:34 PM

Dude. You can't simultaneously complain about Dems rigging the primary for centrists while also saying Biden was the left most candidate.

JPhillips 03-22-2025 02:48 PM

dola

Last night Trump signed an EO that makes all data held by the government available to every department head and demands that states turn over any data collected by any program that has federal funding. There will be one giant database of all of our information, tax returns, mortgage info, health records, education records, everything.

It's a step towards a police state.

flere-imsaho 03-22-2025 03:23 PM

Biden ran in 2020 on "I'm not Trump", which implied "Vote for me and the insanity will stop and I won't do anything too crazy."

JPhillips 03-22-2025 06:32 PM

Solid work from Trump/Elon.


PilotMan 03-22-2025 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460235)
dola

Last night Trump signed an EO that makes all data held by the government available to every department head and demands that states turn over any data collected by any program that has federal funding. There will be one giant database of all of our information, tax returns, mortgage info, health records, education records, everything.

It's a step towards a police state.



Almost makes you wonder which tyrannical government the gun toting crazies were looking to defend themselves against?

Atocep 03-23-2025 01:30 PM

The Trump administration has banned VA employee benefits reps from contacting attorneys from the Office of Soldier's Counsel, their attorneys, without political approval. The VA uses the OSC to get the best benefits available for veterans by interpreting laws and regulations and also investigating shady doctors in network with the VA.

Basically, they're trying to indirectly make VA cuts by making sure Veterans don't get the benefits they should be receiving and aren't protected from bad doctors.

RainMaker 03-23-2025 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460234)
Dude. You can't simultaneously complain about Dems rigging the primary for centrists while also saying Biden was the left most candidate.


Just telling you what he campaigned on. Him and Bernie even sat down and put out a huge policy list. Don't you remember all the talk about Biden running as a New Deal President? Free college and pre-K were in all the commercials.

He actually sort of tried to fill those promises too the first year or so. Then shifted his whole Presidency to Ukraine and deep throating Israel.

Ksyrup 03-23-2025 07:53 PM

The administration going after law firms, and at least one (Paul Weiss) backing down, is extremely troubling. This is fucking terrible. No one has a backbone. Money over everything. Next step is apparently trying to intimidate immigration attorneys. And the GOP, lead by Bondi's brother, is attempting to take over the DC bar.

GrantDawg 03-24-2025 11:33 AM

Guys, we literally have the most incompetent people handling our most important positions. My guess is Secretary Pete was three sheets to the wind when he texted the war plans to a newspaper editor.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...campaign=share

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Lathum 03-24-2025 11:36 AM

He should resign and be charged, but of course none of that will happen

Atocep 03-24-2025 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3460281)
Guys, we literally have the most incompetent people handling our most important positions. My guess is Secretary Pete was three sheets to the wind when he texted the war plans to a newspaper editor.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...campaign=share

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C'mon, it's not like he was storing highly classified documents in his bathroom or something.

JPhillips 03-24-2025 02:56 PM

Trump says he's putting a 25% tariff on all products from countries that buy oil from Venezuela. Not sure how that works with Chevron's oil from Venezuela that comes into the U.S.

JPhillips 03-24-2025 04:15 PM

Still no statements from Schumer or Jeffries. Dems just do not play at anywhere close to the right speed. This will be gone tomorrow in part because there's no organized response from Dems.

Lathum 03-24-2025 04:30 PM

Dog Killer announced today they are going to start working on dismantling FEMA. Should work out well for poor red states prone to hurricanic and tornados, especially when you combine it with gutting NOAA. IT will legit be line 1887 on the plains.

RainMaker 03-24-2025 04:31 PM

Schumer is doing a book tour. Cut him some slack.



Atocep 03-24-2025 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460301)
Still no statements from Schumer or Jeffries. Dems just do not play at anywhere close to the right speed. This will be gone tomorrow in part because there's no organized response from Dems.


Schumer still thinks the GOP is going to turn on Trump without outside pressure.

JPhillips 03-24-2025 04:44 PM

Atocep: I read a guy claiming the payroll system for the VA is fucked up. Have you heard anything?

Atocep 03-24-2025 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460307)
Atocep: I read a guy claiming the payroll system for the VA is fucked up. Have you heard anything?


Nothing yet. The wife and I's VA doesn't usually hit until the 26th-28th.

Atocep 03-24-2025 06:37 PM

We have Hegseth leaking strike plans, Trump saying he knows nothing about it, Russia and Ukraine ignoring their partial ceasefire, and Witkoff admitting that Hamas "duped" him.

Is this the global respect MAGA keeps chest thumping about?

wustin 03-25-2025 12:01 AM

Isn't mistakenly texting classified DoD information through an unapproved method worse than whatever Hillary was doing a decade ago.

Ghost Econ 03-25-2025 07:19 AM

No, she was DEI

JPhillips 03-25-2025 07:57 AM

I don't know if they'll arrest Goldberg, but I'm quite certain they are going to threaten to arrest him.

Lathum 03-25-2025 09:16 AM

Josh Hawleys comments on this tell you everything you need to know about the current GOP. All hypocrisy and zero accountability.

Ghost Econ 03-25-2025 10:03 AM

Trump said he's a good man, so everything is fine.

Atocep 03-25-2025 11:50 AM

Waltz is likely forced to resign. No one else will see any consequences. Hegseth is still saying it didn't happen and attacking the reporter's credibility despite everyone else admitting it happened. Tulsi is trying to run with "no classified information was shared" but won't release anything from the chat because it's classified.

GrantDawg 03-25-2025 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3460332)
Waltz is likely forced to resign. No one else will see any consequences. Hegseth is still saying it didn't happen and attacking the reporter's credibility despite everyone else admitting it happened. Tulsi is trying to run with "no classified information was shared" but won't release anything from the chat because it's classified.



Let me get this straight. The exact time, units, targets and source to be used to determine damage of a military attack is not classified. The time a deportation plane took off is. Make it make sense!

JPhillips 03-25-2025 01:05 PM

Rep. Crockett's shot at Gov. Abbott as Gov. Hotwheels is really ugly and counterproductive.


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