Incidentally, I am anti-Dart-early, in case that post sounded otherwise. I think I'd be interested if I were the Jets/Browns/whomever in round two, or thereabouts. I think he's pick ~90 in this draft, but since it's at QB top 50 seems ok.

I also understand that teams are judged by whether the guy works out. If Pennix turns into a top-10 QB, no one is going to care that the Falcons could have drafted him later.

I just think that, in my uneducated view of things, Dart looks like one of those QBs who gets GMs and coaches fired. Call it a gut feeling.

Agreed.

I'm so old I remember when this was the worst QB class in forever and we were wondering if two would even go in the top 10.

The problem, as I see it, is that ownership & front office is mediocre. If I was a Bengals fan I'm glad I don't have a tire fire like NYJ or CLE, but finding a way to make this situation work will take an upper-level GM and a supportive owner with nerves of steel, and I don't think this is that group.


100% When I did my Tiers again this year the conclusion to me, again, is that there's maybe 10 starting QBs who are going to help you, maybe 10 that aren't really going to help or hurt (which is arguably bad because you won't really be good enough to go deep into the playoffs but you won't really be bad enough to get a top draft pick) and the rest are actively detrimental to your team's chances of winning.


See above, IMO. You're not going to get anywhere without a good QB. If you think a particular QB in the draft has that potential, there's no reason not to take a shot.

I don’t disagree. It’s just funny every single year to hear talking heads and casual fans in January and February bemoaning how poor the QB class is and having one or two in their mock drafts, and then seeing the narrative change. It’s happened for years now.

On the flip side you have people trying to tell you Kyle McCord is in the 95th percentile of NFL QB's Is Kyle McCord an NFL Draft sleeper? QB guru Jordan Palmer thinks so —Â*and he can prove it - The Athletic

The article's actually pretty interesting, though I'm not buying Kyle McCord as a round 1 QB.

Has anyone given this board its last rites?

Dart will be going, most assuredly in Round 1 on Thursday.

Oh definitely. 100%.

Cam Robinson to the Texans for 1/$14m, I definitely prefer that deal over Dan Moore's, Jaylen Moore's, or locking in to drafting a Left Tackle at 4 :/ Sources -- OT Cam Robinson agrees to one-year deal with Texans - ESPN

I'm fascinated to see what happens with Hunter. Didn't think he could pull off playing both ways in college but did. Can't imagine he can do it in the NFL but who knows.

Do you play him at corner and sprinkle him in at WR? Or the reverse? I've seen some coaches mention that if they played against him and he was playing both ways, they'd just run go routes with his man constantly at the start of the game to tire him out.

I would keep him at the corner and just have an occasional offensive package for him as the season progresses. I wouldn't try to use him both ways out of the box.

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The Falcons just brought back Feleipe Franks after his short stint with the Panthers. The rest of the League beware!

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Not sure I totally agree. What about 2022? People were saying historically bad QB draft class but that teams were still going to take quarterbacks anyway. Sam Howell and Matt Corral were being mocked in the first round in February. Desmond Ridder was being mocked in the first very late in the process and Malik Willis was being mocked in the first all the way up until draft night.

Ultimately, the fact that it was a poor QB class meant fewer quarterbacks went in the first than any mock projected.

Random draft speculation: Sanders either goes 2 or 3 to the Giants or out of the first round

Sanders will go somewhere in the 1st round. If Anthony Richardson got drafted at #4 in '23 some QB-needy team will take Sanders. Dart will probably go in the 1st, too. Not saying that they should be drafted in the first, but NFL teams love QBs.

Pulled this one over here from the Bears thread, but circling back to this I don't think Rodgers would even agree to be in the Kirk Cousins role where it's always a question of when they turn to the next guy, but you know who's perfect for that role? Jayboo! Guess I found my NFC team for the season :cool:

FWIW my read on the top is the all 3 teams like Cam Ward a lot but Tennessee doesn't love him, so they're doing what they can to get Cleveland or NYG to trade next year's 1st and get them Abdul Carter at a lower pick. Tyler Shough is the other name getting weird helium now, I liked him as a mid round QB but there's way too much Shough to the Browns at 2 smoke, idk if it's one of those where one person speculated about it and AI amplifiers just put it out everywhere immediately - I'd call complete BS on it but there are several teams dumb enough to do something like that and the Browns are definitely on that list.

Kinda of a little shocked to think about Shough turning 26 by the time the season starts.

Not an age you see much at the position as a rookie anymore (not in my mind anyway)

Not unless they played pro baseball and then came back to football.

Brandon Weeden would also have been an acceptable reference ;) so yeah... maybe don't draft guys that old 1st round?

I am enjoying the Titans telling every reporter within 500 miles that they just *love* Cam Ward and it would take a lot to get them to trade that pick.

When you love a guy at #1 (Luck, Lawrence, etc.) you just draft him.

When you don't really love him, you hold a press conference every day saying that you do.

The guys on the Athletic pod today are buying it, now, that they're in on Ward. Dang. I really wanted it to be the sneaky play to pilfer the Giants of their 2026 1st.

Russ to the NYG


Rodgers fn around in dark caves shoulda signed with someone almost a month ago around the Darnold hire. Gonna be a dumpster fire with divas Pickens /DK in Pittsburgh.

Diggs to the Pats, not sure how healthy/explosive he'll be this season but looks like a 2 year deal and the $$$ is not bad at all, I like it.

I don't mind the Russ-Jameis platoon with the Giants and kind of want to be a fly on the wall when these two chat. This also assumes they draft Travis Hunter and the QB just spends all game throwing up balls to the two of them.

I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out who "Jayboo" is.

Russ is cooked but I don't hate the signing. Better than reaching for a QB if they don't think he is the answer. The kid from PSU likely is #1 but if he falls to them you take him. Otherwise you have the flexibility to trade down if someone really wants Ward or Sanders or you take Hunter, pair him with Nabors, and hopefully you have your WR tandem for the next 5-7 years. If Dart falls take him in round 2 and sit him for the year. He can learn what to do from Russ and what not to do from Winston

Jaboo is Jameis Winston's nickname.

I agree, I think it's the most sensible thing the Giants have done in years. This isn't a one year rebuild that was ever going to be fixed by any of the QB's on the FA market, and certainly wasn't going to be helped by the Rodgers circus.

The problem for the Giants is the staff. They are certainly gone if they don't win more, but winning more without taking a young QB this year is just a guarantee of more losing over the next 3-5 years. They either need to pick a QB this year or commit to not winning so that they can pick a QB next year.

There's a reporter in Cleveland claiming the Browns are working on a trade for Dak Prescott.

Yeah, sorry Pass I knew Albion is a Saints fan so he knows our favorite backup QB's nickname. Giants ruined it by adding Mr Unlimited right after though - not a fan of drafting any of these college QB's that high past Cam Ward so I get that part but I don't think Wilson will help them win enough games to matter in 2025, I'm not sure why they'd be shooting for 7 wins instead of 4 if they're not drafting a QB highly this year, and he'll be a whole lot less fun than the pick-6 maestro.

Dabol is a good coach, he's just been given shit to work with. I hope they stick with him.

Kirk Cousins is such a weird dude. His people released he wouldn't green light a trade till after the draft (just to make sure the team he goes to doesn't take a quarterback too high), but then he poses for pictures in restaurants in two different neighborhoods outside of Cleveland where he could only be house shopping. I guess he is trying to build up hype in the Browns fan-base before he can officially announce. It's like he can't keep anything a secret.

Draft season got me looking back at past years.

I think that I just PTSD'd the 2007 QB draft out of my mind.

Holy crap

I mean, just for entertainment value, let this be the start of a process where Deion Sanders ends up coaching the Cowboys. Right?

Jordan Palmer's work as a QB coach is the most impressive achievement out of that group, by far.

Coastal Carolina and KC Chief Tyler Thigpen-the greatest ever QB KC has ever had-even better than that what's his name who leads the team now. :D


Tyler was on campus this season during football season and he is still wildly loved around here.

I'm not sure that outshines Jamarcus Russell's eating habits.

In an upset rivaling Jets over Colts in Super Bowl III, the NFL announced their draft hats and they are . . . actually good

Here are the official 2025 New Era NFL Draft caps that players will wear once selected.

This year, each design features a franchise-specific pin on every cap. pic.twitter.com/3GRBWpisS5

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 28, 2025

That's a terrific read. :)

The Dan Campbell one had me laughing out loud.

Genuinely the funniest thing I've read in forever, thanks for posting

In all seriousness, Andy Reid and his blood-purple "cankles" suggest a man about to keel over from a heart attack or something.

That's why Mahomes wasn't giving him those nuggies.

Almost thought this was an April Fools joke yesterday but no Calais Campbell is coming back to my beloved Cards on a 1 year deal. He's 38, so not sure he can still put up the numbers he had as a Card, but will be nice to see him in the red and white again

he was remarkably effective last season with the Dolphins, they wanted him back but were waiting until after the comp pick deadline