Is there a point where a team planning on having a QB competition anyway takes a shot on him and just cuts him if he loses the job? I’m just thinking someone like the Colts who plan on having Richardson and Jones play it out in the pre-season. You can’t tell me there isn’t a chance that Shedeur is the best of that bunch.

Any other teams plan on having an open competition this season?

Pittsburgh clearly has a need, but they seem confident that he's not the answer.

New term for when a player slips in the draft:

shadeurfreude

Yeah ESPN was all in on Sanders when the draft started-Kiper had him as his #1 prospect, and they all acted though there were doubts about where he would go. they were still talking about him going in the 1st.

It was one of those "let me make sure you know about your Medicare options" call though Jon? Bastards never give up here.

Trump putting the NFL owners on blast for not drafting Sanders in the first round makes his continued slide all the more hilarious.

Sent from my SM-S938U using Tapatalk

Which is funny, because if youve ever talked college football with a Trump supporter, they hate Sanders more than anyone.

“What if Andy Dalton’s athletic profile but also a huge asshole” turns out not to be something teams want.

Guy that inherited a fortune coming out and saying that Shedeur should be picked because of how good his dad was……checks out actually. Seems pretty on point for Trump.

Technically, Shedeur is dodging the draft

I was going to ask about Clay Matthews (?) message from the President as they were getting ready to start the draft-what exactly did he say and no surprise that Trump tried to make himself the center of attention again on something.

Chase Daniels getting more chances than Sanders.

On Sanders, I think it's obvious at this point that GMs are calculating that the average talent doesn't justify the circus, but at what point would they think he's been humbled enough that the circus wouldn't apply? 6th, 7th, UDFA?

We're a long way from Deion suggesting in the media that certain teams shouldn't bother drafting him.

There are articles suggesting Sanders should return to college.

Sent from my SM-S938U using Tapatalk

As one who is always critical of NFL teams not playing to the QB's strengths and/or putting a young QB in situations and systems they are not suited for, I can't criticize teams for choosing not to do those things with Shedeur. I can't speak on what was said during the interview process. None of us think any of that matters if we are talking about a Mahomes type talent. I can't speak on the effect that Deion had on the whole process but does anyone actually believe that teams would not take a potential top ten NFL starting QB because his daddy was a pain in the ass? Of course now that he is obviously at best someone's backup, all of those things come into play. Once that happens, yeah the juice is probably not worth the squeeze.

I am now seeing comparisons to guys like Malik Willis and Will Levis. Yet again, I get why teams would take a shot at players described as "using his rare combination of elite rushing talent and a rocket-launching right arm" and as "one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks in the draft". I listened to a clip this morning of Field Yates trying to justify selecting Shedeur and the high points are things like four year starter, touch, accuracy when not under pressure, and uplifting the profile of his receivers besides Hunter? Huh? That is why he should be drafted?

Here is a thought experiment. Forget where either got picked if Shedeur ends up getting picked, who is/was the better prospect and who would you rather have as your starting QB or even in your QB room in 2025. Shedeur Sanders or Bryce Young?

If Sanders is Trey Lance level on the field, I can't imagine how much noise would be coming from Sanders' camp about his lack of field time. Even though it's obvious Lance hasn't played a lot because he's shown nearly zero ability in practice - otherwise he'd have been playing.

This is teams totally not wanting the headache.

He'd have to file a lawsuit. NCAA rules are that when you declare for the draft, you forgo your remaining eligibility. It'd go over like *another* lead balloon. He'd probably be better off signing with a UFL team tomorrow.

I'm starting to see the takes that Sanders's slide is a coordinated "plan" by the 32 teams to "humble" him.

2025 NFL Offseason/Free Agency/Draft thread
 

If I’m a head coach do I want Deion flying in the wings, heir apparent to take over when we are losing because most teams needing a QB aren’t going to be great year one.

So the constant cage rattling about starting sanders and relieving me of my job so Deion can take over is not something I’d invite easily


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

On day 3 Sanders will go, its late enough you can just cut him if there is a circus.

This seems like the most likely answer. What GM is willingly going to be pressured by his dad to take over as HC? It's a bigger issue than what his kid can do on the field now.

Bernie Sanders just went

Why would Abdul Carter want to wear #56 as a Giant? It would be different if he got drafted by the Dolphins or even the Eagles. Wearing #56 because he idolized LT makes sense if you are on 31 other teams. Not if you are a member of the Giants. Similarly, I don't know why Cam Ward needed permission from Warren Moon to wear #1. Warren Moon wore #1 for the Houston Oilers and never pulled on a jersey for the Titans. Yes, I think it is ridiculous for the Tenneesee Titans to combine their history with the history of the Houston Oilers and for the Oklahoma City Thunder to combine their history with the Seattle SuperSonics.

Marketing/$$$$

I was listening to coverage on the radio and they were speculation Sanders camp at this point is telling teams not to draft him because he would rather file a lawsuit and get way more NIL money than whatever the slot would be for a late round pick.

SHEDEUR’S AGENT: OK. Here’s the deal. We don’t want you to draft Shedeur because…

GM: OK. That’s fine. We won’t draft him.

AGENT: but don’t you want to know why you shouldn’t draft him?

GM: no. That’s fine. You guys win. We won’t draft him.

Whoever has the "Mr. Irrelevant" pick has the chance to do the funniest thing.

I think Sanders has now surpassed guys like Sam Howell and Malik Willis in terms of where he was projected versus where he will (may?) end up going. Not surprised he didn't go in the first three rounds, but pretty shocked he's not home by the early fifth.

Cleveland is going to Cleveland

Value pick by the Browns?

Hard Knocks has to do the Browns, right? Light it the F up.

^^^^^^^^^

Now I am upset that Jameis Winston is not with the Browns.

The Browns have like 5 QBs now. Forgot they got Pickett too.

I get why it's value at this point, equally that QB room is going to be absolutely wild. At least one of those QB picks has just been pissed up the wall.

What a QB depth chart:

Shadeur Sanders
Dillon Gabriel
Joe Flacco
Kenny Pickett
Deshaun Watson

All that is missing is to sign Aaron Rodgers and do Hard Knocks where one QB is voted off at the end of each episode.

Does Sanders go top 10 if he sits out the bowl game?

Joe Flacco has to be like, wtf did I do to deserve this

Did Cleveland send up a puff of white smoke to announce the selection?

Man into a QB competition with a QB taken earlier than him. If that doesn't give him some humility, then nothing well

Highly doubtful.

If he had sat out interviewing with teams AND the bowl game, then maybe.

But marginal QB skills + his own personality + his clown show father?

It takes a rare fool to want any part of that.

Not saying that you meant to do this but the fact that the QB that is fifth on your depth chart will get $46M in cash this year and might actually be the worst QB on the roster is hilarious.

Maybe they can trade one of these guys to a team that's really aching for QB help, like Cleveland.

So Shadeur is the 14th quarterback in Browns 2.0 history. Here are the thirteen players that came before him, with career starts in parentheses:

1999 - Round 1 - Tim Couch (59)
2000 - Round 6 - Spergon Wynn (3)
2004 - Round 4 - Luke McCown (10)
2005 - Round 3 - Charlie Frye (23)
2007 - Round 1 - Brady Quinn (20)
2010 - Round 3 - Colt McCoy (36)
2012 - Round 1 - Brandon Weeden (25)
2014 - Round 1 - Johnny Manziel (8)
2016 - Round 3 - Cody Kessler (12)
2017 - Round 2 - DeShone Kizer (15)
2018 - Round 1 - Baker Mayfield (103)
2023 - Round 5 - Dorian Thompson-Robinson (5)
2025 - Round 3 - Dillon Gabriel (0)

Where do we project Sanders will rank on this list by the end of his career? Obviously Baker is number one. It may be recency bias, but I'm inclined to rank Colt ahead of Couch. Despite having few starts, McCoy stuck around the NFL for 13 years. That says something about to me about how the league values a player. Couch was cut after five seasons and couldn't stick on elsewhere as a backup.

Even more hysterical is the Browns dumped the one guy on this list who is actully any good to get Watson.

Jimmy Haslem ordered it.

The Browns’ reaction to the Shedeur Sanders pick was ... subdued [VIDEO] - SBNation.com..

Graham Mertz getting drafted might just be one of the surest signs of what an absolutely void of offensive talent draft class this really is.

HOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHOHO! That is brilliant. YOu win today's internet

I am seriously shocked that he has not been taken yet.
Does anyone have transcripts of things he said in the news and interviews?

WHAT??? :lol:

another brilliant bazinga

I transcribed it as jkhglakjhgdlkahgdlkjahelhjaehjaeuiohgilounvnlbhujkdhagd

I don't understand why anyone would bring Mertz on UDFA let alone spending a draft choice on him. I'm surprised Ewers hasn't been picked yet though.

Being a draft nerd and also a Dolphins fan is a toxic combo. Their front office (incredibly in power for 10 years) just really believes in their own valuation, much of it based on very finely tuned matters of "fit" -- maybe not quite as annoying as Mayock w the Raiders, btu a similar vibe.

So, I probably run 75 mock drafts for the Dolphins, either plotting out what do do after using pick 13 here, or there, and so forth... and then variations of trading down or trading up in later spots. It was enjoyable, I got to know this draft much better for having done so, but I knew all along that I couldn't wish anyone onto the roster, and that my mocked players would end up going to more conventional front offices, while the Dolphins reliable reach and reach.

The day-after grade is usually bad for the 'Phins, as they vary a lot from the consensus boards. But the thing is, that means they leave value on the table. This year, DT Grant was a rumored consideration for quite a while, but I just wasn't able to sell myself that he was enough value to take at 13, which apparently thay had just planned to do all along. I mocked myself dealing down from 13 to 25 or 28 or whatever and picking up a selection or two for the trouble, and then taking a DT (even Grant) at that point, but... just sitting tight at 13 and taking him never felt right to me.

They dealt up to get a G they like... I liked him too and am fine with the pick, but they seem so super confident about their late picks, it's just off-putting. And none of the guys they are taking in rounds 5+ are guys I had any interest in at this point in my Dolphins mocks.

Sigh. We'll see how it turns out, but they feel like they bungled a window, and now are fiddling while the cinders burn out. Even if they somehow get a fully healthy season from Tua and a couple other good turns, it's nearly impossible to see them beating any of the AFC power teams in Dec/Jan.

…and then they pick QB Ewers, a guy I did indeed grasp in the 5/6 range fairly often for them. Fine.

man 5th round. after they passed on him several times and he was still there, then trading up. They must have been playing the long game the whole time. Good work Clev.

Also There IS such a thing as too much taxidermy

As someone said that was almost certainly orders from the owner to do that

I feel the same as a Bengals fan. They are going to do it their way regardless of results. They are going to draft for need and that's going to end up with them drafting players early and missing out on players that get taken just before them.

oh man this is rough

Pittsburgh Steelers’ first-round draft pick loses mother hours after being selected | CNN

I feel bad for Dillon Gabriel. That’s a really unenviable position to be in now. The guy they took instead of the more talented guy, except then they went back and took that guy later as well.

Somebody go get this undrafted rookie TE:
CJ Dippre

Wait a second, the Browns traded up to pick 144 for the honor of drafting Shedeur? I want to believe that John Schneider called up Jimmy Haslam directly, told him that Howie Roseman thought Shedeur was the next Jalen Hurts and that is what sealed the deal.

NDSU's Cam Miller was picked in the 6th round by the Raiders. He makes the 4th QB from NDSU drafted in school history.


Two picks earlier they selected Montana State's Tommy Mellott.


Both QB's played against one another in the FCS Championship game this year, and Miller pulled NDSU through with a 35-32 win.

The best name in the draft: Cam Skateboo

Gabriel is more talented than Sanders. The only thing Sanders has on him is height.

Here's what I wanna know from you guys. Which teams do you think will reach out for Pickett, Watson, and Flacco and be good fits?

I was watching my recording of the rouds 4-7 draft and there was a new fifth analyst on the end with glasses his face was all puffed out and red and angry like a republican and he kept ranting against the NFL for Sanders falling to the 5th round. The others were calmly trying to explain to him that no one likes him because his attitude and his dad's baggage was why but he wouldn't listen.

With Riley Leonard and Will Howard both going in the 6th round, this was probably the worst starting National Championship pair since at least AJ McCarron and Everett Goldson in 2013. 3 of the 4 final 4 QBs were taken in round 6 or later and Drew Allar is almost certainly worse but will get drafted higher.

Also, what does it say about Arch Manning that he sat behind a 7th round draft pick for 2 years.

The only people reaching out for Watson will be lawyers for more civil suits.

Yeah I think the only teams that would go for Watson at this point would be teams with a big QB injury run.

Seeing that Shadeur's brother fired Dad as agent after the draft feels pretty fitting and also hilarious.

Draft grades from the Athletic-they loved my Cards draft so yeah Cards?


NFL Draft 2025 guide for every team: Picks, scouting reports and more - The Athletic

Isn't his brother closer to UFL quality as a player anyway?

So if I had a nice grade on Dillon Gabriel, I think I’m calling the Browns and helping them resolve their vexing situation,

Pats add him to a nice rookie haul

Can you trade a rookie? I thought you can, but my friend said he didn't think you could.

Sent from my SM-S938U using Tapatalk

I think so. Eli Manning comes to mind but that was ages ago

Edit: thought you meant draft pick. You definitely can trade a rookie after they've signed a contract

Yes, though I don’t recall ever hearing about it happening prior to contracts being signed, other than the during-draft moves like Eli Manning and Philip Rivers.

Lynn Bowden Jr was drafted a few years ago by the Raiders, and traded before his rookie season to the Dolphins. But yeah it’s pretty rare for obvious reasons. I’d guess it happens with very marginal players here and there without any fanfare.. late round pick is gonna get cut, deal him for a pick swap or something.

It was the son of the Falcons DC that pranked called Sheduer. That's so terrible (and terribly funny).

Sent from my SM-S938U using Tapatalk

Nah, not funny at all IMO

It appears several players were pranked:


NFL investigating prank call of Shedeur Sanders during NFL draft - ESPN

I've been thinking a lot lately that the draft needs to be hosted by a comedian. It takes itself too seriously

I think that's what they are banking on. But they won't be able to keep ALL of them into the season. I think Pickett will get traded to be a backup somewhere else.

As fans maybe but this is a dream come true for the athletes and their families and sometimes communities.

Any team with an established starter should be calling CLE and trying to buy low on Pickett. Great backup QB who does not really have a space in that QB room anymore.

Nailed the first one

Not sure about how close we came to a record, but the #2 pick being involved in a surprise trade killed the spirit of this guess

Nope

Super Nope. Apparently if the Panthers had not grabbed him, there were multiple teams ready to run up his card in the next few picks.

I agree. Plus, booing the Commissioner is now a time-honored (and entertaining) tradition. And seeing him interacting with these young guys is also kinda funny (especially the recent trend of trying to out-bear-hug the last guy which will eventually end up with a broken back or some other sort of injury for Goodell).

Plus, there was some entertaining smack talk from some of the guest pick announcers. Terrion Arnold talking shit about being glad he didn't get picked by GB, and then whoever the hell the smug young guy was announcing a Broncos pick with 3 straight shots at GB losing the '98 SB to Denver was part of the comic relief, from the little I saw over the weekend.

Baltimore and Carolina's drafts are probably my 2 favorites. I liked what the Giants did other than the Dart pick.

1. I wanted Shedeur to lean all in on his heel status and rip in the the guy. Him handling it with a certain amount of class ruins a good bit of the heel character building of Shedeur. {Sarcasm alert}

2. My non sarcastic response is given the misdeed, I sort of feel bad for Jeff Ulbrich. I am not shedding any tears, starting any Go Fund Me's or anything like that. It just sucks that the story is more "the son of Jeff Ulbrich" than "21 year old Jax Ulbrich". I am assuming that Jeff did not give Jax Shedeur's number or tell Jax to do the prank call. Despite his time as Jets' interim head coach, Jeff should be an afterthought in the reporting of the dumb shit his 21 year old son did IMO.

I think reporting this was the worst idea in the world. That has now put the idea into the heads of millions of people. (especially the friends of the draftees) Let the games begin!

At least it's confirmed. Fields is the punk I thought he was.
And the Jets just are addicted to overpaying for garbage QBs.

IF Rodgers DOES go to Pittsburgh, I wonder if being there will make him not suck.
It's possible.

Green Bay added a UDFA named "Buggs" Brown. He's a corner who played at FAU. Here are his numbers:
6'1", 224
4.38 40, 37" vertical, 10'1 broad jump, 24 reps on the bench, 4.09 shuttle

For a CB, his RAS is 9.93. :eek:

He's a punk because he signed with the Jets? Or is there something I missed?

Are you confusing Justin Fields with Shedeur Sanders? Or are you confusing Jax Ulbrich with Justin Fields?:confused:

In the past decade, the Falcons have been fined for:

- $350k + 5th round pick for illegal crowd noise
- $75k + $25k to HC for an injury report violation on Bijan Robinson
- $250k + 5th round pick for tampering with Kirk Cousins
- $250k +$100k to DC for a prank call

— Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) April 30, 2025

Damn, GrantDawg. No wonder they call y'all the Dirty Birds :-)

I understand the need for the league to be seen to do something but that’s got to be one of the most laughably absurd and harsh penalties ever right?

The kid should get an ass whooping by his parents but beyond that… really you are going to fine somebody for having league information accessible at their house that their family can get at?

It's like anything--the consequences matter, not the process.

I worked stocking shelves at a grocery store. They had all sorts of rules about keeping the warehouse doors closed when they were not actively unloading trucks to help prevent theft.

But it is annoying to constantly open and close the doors, so people would just leave them open a lot when trucks were coming and going and no one really cared.

But one day some dudes came in through the open door and stole stuff and all of the employees who should have closed the door got fired.

Same here.

If you ain't rubbin, you ain't racin. It would be so much better if they would actually win something.
This one is stupid, but I get the league had to do something. The only person that did anything wrong was someone they couldn't punish, so they took it out on the team and the coach.

This isn’t some dudes though, it’s his own kid in the safety of his own house. Maybe the league had robust data classification policies and by the letter of the law he’s in violation of that and the penalty is established, I dunno. But I’m guessing that’s not the case and it’s just the perception that they have to close the door after the horse has bolted in a scenario that nobody ever could have anticipated.

You don't think the NFL has good data policies?