Luther Burden is going to make a team very happy. Really got lost with some awful quarterback play.

I love watching him play. The other thing I've heard about Burden is that he's lazy and doesn't really work/try hard. I have no idea if that's true or not, but that's the other knock on him.

I'm seeing several reports (as someone up-thread said, probably copying each others' reports) that Denver is getting calls at #20 from several unnamed teams. It seems that they are in the lucky position of picking right before Pittsburgh, who everyone expects to take a QB. So Denver's pick is looking like the point at which teams might want to jump Pitt to get a QB.

It will be interesting to see if Denver decides to trade back, or if they've got someone in mind where they really don't want to trade down and potentially lose that guy. They need RB and TE, and those are pretty deep positions. But if they've targeted one guy over others, it can be hard to move on.

I'm out there busting my buns every night! Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes!

Keep spreading that, because I'd love to see the Falcons trade down from 15 and pick up some picks. Safer than waiting till 20 to get your guy.

I'm sorry, son, but you must have me confused with someone else. My name is Roger Murdock. I'm the co-pilot.

Saw a pretty good description of him online

Egbuka looks like a high character guy id tarhet him over Burden then.

Can someone who watches SEC play give me their thoughts on Milroe? I know he's probably not going to be an NFL QB but he seems to have way more upside than some of the other guys being talked about.

Incredible athlete and the strongest arm in the draft. Nothing else is good. He's inaccurate, doesn't see the field well, and turns the ball over too much.



I'd take him over Shough. I don't think he's an NFL starter at all though. Hurts was way more polished and NFL ready and he was considered a project.

Thanks, that's kind of how I see him. I guess I'd rather take a project like Milroe over Dart or Shough who just don't have a ton of upside.

I don't believe he's "him", nor ever will be. Strong arm, outstanding runner, but accuracy outside of the deep ball (and possible judgement on field) are enormous issues.

Also sacked 67 times in the past two years on top of nearly 350 rushing attempts, I'd almost start to be concerned about his mileage.

I'm not sure how much more ceiling Dart has to grow into but a pretty high mark from me for being competitor. I was not a believer in his Ole Miss career, but even with my doubts about the talent ceiling, he did win me over to not being anti- .

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Predictions?

He kind of reminds me a bit of a poor man's Mayfield. Maybe he pans out but I feel like he slots in as a good backup QB who can grind a win for you here and there. Somewhere in that Case Keenum to Gardner Minshew mold.

I can see this. It's really hard to judge QBs in a Kiffin system because he makes life so easy for them.

May all your 1st round picks not be busts (unless you are the Jets)

There's a strong belief that if Shadeur doesn't go the Giants at 3 then he may slide completely out of the first. The Saints don't look likely and the Steelers reportedly have their sights on other needs.

I have no idea what he just said

The 5th year for 1st round picks makes me think someone would trade into the 1st round to grab him late.

Cam ward just does not look hsppy.

Has to be Travis Hunter now, no? And are the Browns now in on QB2?

Holy shit, Jacksonville gave up a 2, a 4, and next year's 1 to move from 5 to 2.

Okay i love this guy . His dance moves his jacket hi s excite ment

LOVE that for the Browns. If they are Dart-curious now it's just easy AF to grab him somewhere. If not, they can still add two more high quality players in this draft in the top 40, and set themselves up for ammo to grab their QB next year.

Agreed.

+1

The Browns may win this draft if they don't fuck things up from here. Trading down and getting Graham is brilliant.

Clev needs a qb doesnt he?

There goes geanty. Raider!

So glad the Giants didn't take Sanders. Hopefully Carter is an anchor on the D for the next 10 years.

Happy to see UGA kid go to the Falcons

And nice to add some defense.

Cleveland gonna build a winner around Joe Flacco and go for it all.

Hate the Stewart pick for the Bengals. He's been entirely forgettable in college.

Sackseer, the former FO projection for edge guys, really likes him. PFF isn't as high but he graded really well for an edge against the run.

Feeling a little for Shedeur. Reminds me little/some of Rodgers and his wait. Hope his isn’t as bad

“Joe Burrow’s job just got harder”? Is Stewart going to tackle his teammate?

Cards went defense as I expected-guess it'll be nice to have Calais Campbell as a mentor now.

Does anyone else find the draft tough to watch? They were 4 picks behind at one point because they needed to do a bunch of crap like announcing that they will be announcing the schedule at a later date. They barely talk about the players. Kind of miss the old draft format.

I just don't like how little production he had in college. It's another pick with the hope they develop but not offering much in year one.

One of the funnier bits of (I'm pretty sure) unintentional comedy I've seen from a media outlet in a while. I think we can all agree that making a driving reference to a UGA football player probbbbbably isn't imagery that anybody wanted.

Especially since he would be coming in from 78.

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The #1 DE in terms of physical metrics measured by RAS going back to 1987. Of course you can be that much of a physical freak and bust and the production in college is concerning, but I understand totally why you take that shot at that point in the draft.

I don't. He is an entitled little shit and his dad is an arrogant nightmare. He is the kind of pick that gets GMs fired.

Is it just me or are there way less trades than usual?

Let us know if you need help after the Giants pick now :devil:

I really like both receivers taken before him and think they will be good NFL players, and yet I think Golden has a chance to be an absolute star in the league.

Good timing there Latham - got to be a QB but which one?

Come to think of it, since they moved camp to Flowery Branch, you're right. Or at least, US 29 to GA 211

I honestly still think of them being in Suwanee ... even though they haven't been there since 1998 (which is absolutely crazy to me to realize)

Fuck me.

Jesus they gave up a lot

Has to be Dart

I'm OK with it. Let him sit behind Russ for a year or two and practice with Nabors while they get more young talent.

Just glad it wasn't Sanders

Great QB name

Holy fuck, the Falcons just said hold my beer. That’s an absolute ton to get back to 26.

The surprise of the night for me was during Pittsburgh's pick when they said "Wilson's gone, Justin FIelds is gone." Holy shit where did they go? When did that happen? heh

Best pick of the night was that announcer/commentator that picked up the buffalo wing and dipped it in macaroni and cheese sauce. Also that whole fucking cheese/brat tray looked amazing.

How can you tell if a GM feels like this might be his last year? Asking for a fanbaae.

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hey man you finally got some defense

We definitely needed it, for sure. I am hopeful. It does seem like the GM is moving aggressively mostly out of fear.

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Not sure what to think about Denver going CB at 20, but our D should be pretty stout. I'm hoping for an aggressive move for either (or both) a RB and TE today.

Complete organizational malpractice by the Giants. And it's all on the owner.

First, Mara comes out last year and says that "maybe he fired people too quickly" in the past, when asked about Daboll and Schoen.

OK, so he wants to give those two a chance to succeed. Fine.

Come the end of the season you have no QB and a poor QB class, and the feeling is that next year's class is a lot better. The obvious solution is to gut it through another losing season so that you have a high pick to spend on one of those QBs and re-start. You can use your #3 to build up other parts of the squad in anticipation of that.

But you let Schoen go out and sign Wilson & Winston. They're not getting you to the playoffs, especially in that division, but probably winning enough games that you've now lessened your chances on getting that blue chip QB.

That was all bad enough.

But now you've given up capital to pick up a 1st round rookie QB who is absolutely not ready to start on Day One, and who most commentators think is a long shot to become a starting NFL QB, never mind a good one.

So what are you going to do now? Play Dart in December when you're out of the playoffs anyway and hope that he's transcendent? If he's not, pick another QB next year and flush all you spent on Dart down the toilet? Or, stick with Dart and finish ~.500 for the next few years, eventually and inevitably firing Schoen & Daboll anyway?

An Owner's job should be to set up the organizational structure for success and on every level Mara has failed. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

So like is Sanders the Make A Wish player of the draft?

Was there anyone else remotely considering taking Dart that high? I just don't understand giving up that much to trade up for him.


Seems like treating the draft process like a joke and acting like he was above it didn't pay off. Almost like teams don't want to invest in a QB who isn't taking anything seriously and seems to be a shitty teammate.

equating an entitled athlete to a program for kids with cancer isn't funny.

There was a lot of smoke around him. As a Giants fan I am good with it.

Regarding Sanders, I heard one organization claimed his interview was the worst one they have ever had.

I don't think any GM is going to touch him, when he goes I think it will be an owner insisting he gets taken. He is the kind of guy who gets coaches and GMs fired.

I'd love it if even one NFL team took Sanders off their board b/c of the insane and tone-deaf decision to put him in the Colorado ring of honor.

There was a fair amount of speculation that the Saints might jump up for him. No idea how much was just smoke/speculation, but the word was out there.

Thing is, didn't we just had this big debate on this board that the only thing that matters is finding the QB of the future, and so if you don't have a QB then even a mid round first is worth a dart throw?

There's a lot of differing opinions on Dart, and more than one comp I've seen that he's Jalen Hurts. Now obviously it's somewhere between possible and probable he's not, but still. If he's obviously terrible and you take another QB next year, isn't that what everyone is basically saying the NFL is in a state that you should do?

We've also got a lot of history on seeing generational draft classes not pan out that way and players turn into late round picks the next year. Right now it looks like a very strong QB class next year, half of those players on the list could stink or get hurt and the Giants could win enough games to pick 5th and all the good QB's go in the top 4. Outright tanking in the NFL almost never works.

I'm not arguing the Giants are a well run organization, but equally I think it's oversimplistic to say that just throwing this year in the trash with the expectation that they just need to get into the top 5 next year and a franchise QB will be sitting there waiting for them is a solid plan too.

Yup, read a few anonymous quotes that said the same. I was wondering if that was just noise being put out there by a team who wanted him to drop or to get back into the second half of the first to take him, but from what you can read it's totally believable and I guess at this point we take it as fact.

Somebody will take him at the top of the second I'm sure, but equally I can believe there are lots of teams that have taken him totally off the board. I wouldn't want my team to put up with that circus, he's not that talented you could overlook all the other stuff.

Yeah, he'll go in the 2nd but there are red flags. His behavior toward his teammates last season was particularly bad and I can see how that wouldn't fly in the NFL. It's also a sharp contrast from Dart who all you hear is rave reviews about how much his teammates like him.

I see sanders one word quote about himself "Legendery" and the chain pendant he wore. reminded me too ot some of the other people in the draft wearing ridiculous looking sparkly words on chains like Adbul did

Sanders being mocked in the top 5 this fall/winter did him no favors. It gave him a sense of entitlement through the process when the reality was very few (if any) teams considered him a first round pick. For the non-elite QB prospects, a lot of it comes down to who needs a QB and are they interested in you. If Denver doesn't take Bo Nix, he may have slid into the 2nd last year. Combine that with a lot of the "bad" teams getting QBs in the past few seasons (Bears, Pats, Panthers, Raiders, Falcons, etc) - it really came down to if the Giants, Browns and Saints liked him. If they didn't, he could easily fall into round 2.

The titans could do the funniest thing and draft Sanders.

I love that the Browns passed on Sanders three times already.

The reality is that Deion is Lavar Ball as a HoFer who can create way more issues for a team. And, his son's talent level is well below what he thinks it is.

I dont think its Deion. If Sanders interviewed well i thonk hes gone. He seemed to way overhype himself in his own mind. Now maybe this will humble him and actually be a good thing for him.

Earlier than I like him for value, but the Rams... oh yeah, awesome landing spot.

Well, so much for the "value" portions of the program. All these guys go well ahead of the consensus board (maybe Harmon right at that range, our board had him right at 21 to PIT). Like the players, but my various mock drafts with Ferguson in the 4th and Harvey in the 5th just seem silly in retrospect.

Man there must be a lot to not like about Sanders to have no one in this QB-happy league to not draft him or trade up for him yet.

RJ Harvey just had his stock as a fantasy asset SOAR, he can eat with Denver.

Jeez. Ravens add Malaki Starks and Mike Green?!?

Teams hate Sanders so much someone took a white wide receiver before him.

Man, more TEs and RBs picked than QBs?

Says a lot that Raiders passed him up four times today with Brady having worked with him

Anyone know who Mel Kipers best available is?

I think it is more of an issue that Shedeur's talent level is well below Deion's and the fact that he is Deion's son is leading people to look for other reasons he is sliding.

I can't say I crunched all the tape on all QBs but just looking at the top six QB (Ward, Sanders, Dart, Shough, Quinn Ewers and Jalen Milroe) draft profiles on NFL.com. There is not a whole lot that suggests that he should be off the board now if I am being honest. Here is Shedeur's draft profile.


This profile is not the end all be all but that does not scream 1st or even 2nd round draft consideration IMO. In fact everything written after the first sentence does everything to make clear that Shedur WAS a product of Hunter's greatness. Add to that being the 14th ranked QB in terms of Athleticism Score when QB athleticism is more important than ever. I just looked at the Still Available at the start of the 3rd round. The last sentence talks about how Shedeur doesn't have elite size, arm strength or athleticism.

QBs who are not athletic and don't have big arms typically don't get drafted high.

And James Milroe is the 4th QB taken. And Dillon Gabriel is #5.

I don't remember quite this disparity between team impressions and public, pre-draft scouting expectations with a player maybe ever.

He would have been better off staying another year. Probably would make a lot more money.

It's really not that different than Malik Willis, except for the fact that he's Deion's son.

Willis was odds on favourite to go second overall in late March. Almost every final 2022 mock draft still had Willis going in the first round, some as high as #8-11 with many having him no lower than #20. He didn't go until late in the third.

If Sanders doesn't go on Day 3, it will be shocking. But until that happens, the reason this story is as big as it is, is because he's Deion's son.

My phone rang about 11p.

I thought sure I'd been drafted in the 3rd round.

Gabriel at 5'11" is a better pick for the Browns than Sanders?

I mean, Sanders name would've looked great on that Browns QB jersey. Great fit. How bad is it that a sub 6 footer went first? I'd have major regret about putting myself out there. He should fire his agent like yesterday.

If you look at qbs drafted in round 2-7 historically, they almost never are starting qbs. So its possible teams like some of these guys as likely long term backups and dont see Sanders as someone fitting into that role.

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I love the Raiders draft. One of the best overall players in the draft in Jeanty and traded down twice to address a lot of needs with solid value picks at WR, CB, OT and OG

Bingo. Teams have said that he's not an immediate starter which is probably right, and that the drama that will come with having him in the QB room and not starting just isn't worth it.

Gabriel has a basically 0% chance of turning into a good starter with his measurables, and Cleveland have decided that is better than the chance that Sanders comes in and is willing to sit a year or two and fulfill his promise without causing serious issues in the locker room.

Chad Powers is the next QB selected

I don't know why but I kind of like Gabriel. He has a big arm and is really accurate. Everyone harps on the size but I never saw him have an issue with it and he plays taller. Not saying he will be a starter in the league but he's kind of one of the flyer QBs I actually think could be good.

I think there's a real possibility that this turns out to be one of the least productive offensive drafts in NFL history.

There's simply not much there, there.

Todd McShay deserves some credit. He didn't predict this but he's been banging the drum that there isn't a lot of interest in Sanders. He's been saying this information is out there and alluded to ESPN ignoring it because they really want him to be a focus of their draft coverage.