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Mota 07-07-2025 05:33 AM

If you have nothing to hide, hide nothing.

Ksyrup 07-07-2025 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3465885)
It's just structurally impossible to be successful as a third party. Perot found this out, any position that a party takes that's popular is going to be co-opted by one of the two major parties. The only way to get somewhere with a third party is to start locally and build support over many years. There's no path for a party to start at the national level.


This is particularly true given that Trump just proved that if you have what it takes, a takeover of a major party is the obvious move because everyone falls in line behind you. Now... easier said than done, yadda yadda, but what is more realistic - fighting 2 major parties, or using the force of one of the two major parties?

I did find it funny that without any kind of self-awareness, the South African who cozies up to Nazis posted: "We've tried red. We've tried blue." Am I supposed to come to any other conclusion than, "Here I am, introducing the White Party"?

Lathum 07-07-2025 10:52 AM

When asked if he was going to visit Texas trump said maybe Friday and he wanted to give them a few days so he wouldn’t be in the way.

I seem to remember Biden doing similar and being skewered on FOX news for days on end.

Ghost Econ 07-07-2025 11:11 AM

He probably ran out of Depends and doesn't want to add to the continued flood risk.

kingfc22 07-07-2025 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3465977)
When asked if he was going to visit Texas trump said maybe Friday and he wanted to give them a few days so he wouldn’t be in the way.

I seem to remember Biden doing similar and being skewered on FOX news for days on end.


Dear Leader can do no wrong. It’s a fucking cult made of pretzel people.

RainMaker 07-07-2025 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3465952)
This is particularly true given that Trump just proved that if you have what it takes, a takeover of a major party is the obvious move because everyone falls in line behind you. Now... easier said than done, yadda yadda, but what is more realistic - fighting 2 major parties, or using the force of one of the two major parties?

I did find it funny that without any kind of self-awareness, the South African who cozies up to Nazis posted: "We've tried red. We've tried blue." Am I supposed to come to any other conclusion than, "Here I am, introducing the White Party"?


The thing with Trump is that most of his policies align with what Republicans want anyway. So it's not like the party made a huge shift on policy outside of the protectionism/tariffs. The issue most people in the party had with him is just the optics.

cuervo72 07-07-2025 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3465977)
When asked if he was going to visit Texas trump said maybe Friday and he wanted to give them a few days so he wouldn’t be in the way.


Surprised he didn't say "two weeks."

Brian Swartz 07-07-2025 01:08 PM

For some of us, the 'optics' are more important than the policies.

Lathum 07-07-2025 01:31 PM

When you have lost Doocy...


Lathum 07-07-2025 02:19 PM

VA laying off 30k workers by September. Bought to you by the president who loves our vets.

RainMaker 07-07-2025 02:43 PM

So are we going to bomb or tariff someone to take attention away from the Epstein and Texas stuff?

SirFozzie 07-07-2025 05:08 PM

Tariffs announced, so yeah.

Edward64 07-07-2025 08:14 PM

Quote:

As Elon Musk moves to create a third party to upend America’s political system, he’s spoken with one-time Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang about the nascent effort.

Yang, the 2020 White House contender and founder of the independent Forward Party, said in an interview that he has been “in touch” with Musk and his team.

Glad I still have my Yang t-shirt

GrantDawg 07-07-2025 08:46 PM

You have a yang on a shirt?

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Edward64 07-07-2025 09:03 PM

This one. Who doesn't love UBI.

Edward64 07-07-2025 09:22 PM

Bibi (and Pakistan) knows how to play the game

Quote:

Netanyahu plays into Trump’s hopes for Middle East peace — and nominates him for a Nobel Prize

Ghost Econ 07-08-2025 10:04 AM

The military conducting operations on American soil and preachers can openly stump for particular candidates. Nothing like living in a Christian Theocratic Kleptocracy.

JPhillips 07-08-2025 10:31 AM

Mamdani is so good at retail level politics.


Atocep 07-08-2025 10:41 AM

The fact that a potentialy/likely mayor is drawing as much hate from both sides tells you hes exactly what's needed. The establishment money on the dem side complaining that this is why dems lose elections is pretty amazing and out of touch.

GrantDawg 07-08-2025 01:35 PM


Danny 07-08-2025 01:45 PM

His response there isnt in the top 10,000 of worse things he has said.

Ghost Econ 07-08-2025 01:50 PM

The funny thing is, Bondi's response is perfectly legitimate. if she had initially said the Epstein file is on her desk to review, she wouldn't have this problem. Her problem is she lies so much she doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

RainMaker 07-08-2025 02:07 PM

It is a fair question to ask why not a single person has been charged outside of Epstein and Maxwell. They supposedly trafficked hundreds of minors but to no one apparently.

Atocep 07-08-2025 02:30 PM

She also made her rounds on Fox News, Newsmax, etc her first month as AG bashing the Biden administration for sitting on the Epstein files and doing nothing with them while promising the files would be released and they would go after people.

RainMaker 07-08-2025 04:20 PM

It is still one of the most insane stories we've had. Guy with intelligence ties is connected to almost every influential man in the world gets caught trafficking minors. No one can tell you where all his money came from, can't pinpoint any actual trades he made, or why these billionaires were willing to give him power of attorney or pay him tens of millions a year to do their taxes.

RainMaker 07-08-2025 04:26 PM

nytimes.com

Atocep 07-08-2025 05:05 PM

One detail in the budget package that I've only seen mentioned in one article is the $200k lifetime cap on Stafford loans, which will likely lead to a doctor shortage in the near future.

dubb93 07-08-2025 09:15 PM

I’m convinced my grandkids will be back to working in the mines with very little to no regulation.

miami_fan 07-08-2025 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466036)
It is a fair question to ask why not a single person has been charged outside of Epstein and Maxwell. They supposedly trafficked hundreds of minors but to no one apparently.


It is only a fair question if you believe any of this had to do with the prosecution of crimes related to trafficking hundreds of minors.

Edward64 07-09-2025 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466039)
No one can tell you where all his money came from, can't pinpoint any actual trades he made, or why these billionaires were willing to give him power of attorney or pay him tens of millions a year to do their taxes.


Wiki has the answer on how he made his money.

Jeffrey Epstein - Wikipedia

Ksyrup 07-09-2025 07:05 AM

I don't want to derail the Severe Weather thread with politics, but there's been some pretty good reporting with details on how the GOP completely fucked over Texas residents in Kerr County on the issue of installing flood warning systems which - SHOCKER! - they are now lying about by saying taxpayers wouldn't fund it or it would have cost them money they didn't have.

A review of transcripts of minutes from the Kerr County Commission is pretty enlightening/damning. Specifically, in 2017 there was a grant available to pay the just short of $1M needed to do it, but the Commission refused because the money would come from the Obama Administration. Four years later, they had $5.1M in their account from Biden's America Rescue Plan Act to cover the costs, and again refused, this time because they wouldn't accept money from "criminal" Biden. It's unclear from what I read whether they actually gave the money back, though, because they were afraid it would be sent to NY or NJ or CA to be used for things the TX GOP was against so at the time, they simply elected not to use it specifically for a flood/disaster warning system (which was the proposal at the time) and either used it later for something else, or perhaps eventually gave it back.

The same guy quoted by the NYT in the last couple of days as saying the system wasn't in place because taxpayers wouldn't pay for it was on the Commission and part of these discussions.

As it relates to the Trump administration, the FEMA cuts have drastically cut down the number of people sent to assist with this disaster. It was like under 100 people as of Sunday. Long-time FEMA people have said they would have had several hundred staffers on the ground by then to assist.

Just a shitshow of partisan buffoonery that has directly led to citizens' deaths and suffering.

JPhillips 07-09-2025 07:28 AM

The head of FEMA has been completely invisible and nobody in the media seems to care because it will make Trump mad to say it.

Ghost Econ 07-09-2025 07:57 AM

@Ksyrup, $5 says they would still vote for Trump for a 3rd term if they had the chance.

They showed an interview with a mom of a camper who survived. They went back to the camp for some reason, I guess to get stuff. The kid is just standing there the whole time, dead eyed. But the mom was just smiling and talking about what her daughter experienced. Just completely oblivious to her kid's suffering.

miami_fan 07-09-2025 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3466060)
The head of FEMA has been completely invisible and nobody in the media seems to care because it will make Trump mad to say it.


Do we still have any expectations for FEMA to respond to natural disasters?

I am wondering if the states have any idea of the emergency management responsibilities that has been dropped to them from the federal government.

Ghost Econ 07-09-2025 09:38 AM

So, currently Texas has floods, plagues (measles), and locusts (cicadas).

Maybe they should pay attention to the signs.

RainMaker 07-09-2025 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3466057)
Wiki has the answer on how he made his money.

Jeffrey Epstein - Wikipedia


People gave him money for imaginary services. Seems really really odd. Never heard of a billionaire signing over power of attorney to a middling trader from the 80's. Or tens of millions of dollars every year for tax planning to a guy with no real accounting background.

Feels like something more was going on here.

RainMaker 07-09-2025 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3466059)
Just a shitshow of partisan buffoonery that has directly led to citizens' deaths and suffering.


They were let down. Although after Uvalde, I think we know what we can expect from Texas and protecting children.

Texas Flooding Camp Mystic emergency plan approved by inspectors days before disaster

Atocep 07-09-2025 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3466059)
I don't want to derail the Severe Weather thread with politics, but there's been some pretty good reporting with details on how the GOP completely fucked over Texas residents in Kerr County on the issue of installing flood warning systems which - SHOCKER! - they are now lying about by saying taxpayers wouldn't fund it or it would have cost them money they didn't have.

A review of transcripts of minutes from the Kerr County Commission is pretty enlightening/damning. Specifically, in 2017 there was a grant available to pay the just short of $1M needed to do it, but the Commission refused because the money would come from the Obama Administration. Four years later, they had $5.1M in their account from Biden's America Rescue Plan Act to cover the costs, and again refused, this time because they wouldn't accept money from "criminal" Biden. It's unclear from what I read whether they actually gave the money back, though, because they were afraid it would be sent to NY or NJ or CA to be used for things the TX GOP was against so at the time, they simply elected not to use it specifically for a flood/disaster warning system (which was the proposal at the time) and either used it later for something else, or perhaps eventually gave it back.

The same guy quoted by the NYT in the last couple of days as saying the system wasn't in place because taxpayers wouldn't pay for it was on the Commission and part of these discussions.

As it relates to the Trump administration, the FEMA cuts have drastically cut down the number of people sent to assist with this disaster. It was like under 100 people as of Sunday. Long-time FEMA people have said they would have had several hundred staffers on the ground by then to assist.

Just a shitshow of partisan buffoonery that has directly led to citizens' deaths and suffering.



Trump would have had Newsome arrested if this had happened in California

Atocep 07-09-2025 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3465997)
So are we going to bomb or tariff someone to take attention away from the Epstein and Texas stuff?


They're out of new ideas. Criminal Investigations into Brennan and Comey confirmed although both said they haven't been contacted by the DOJ, which tells you they know there isn't anything to actually investigate them for and they're hoping it distracts from Epstein.

bhlloy 07-09-2025 02:19 PM

They’ve still got the Russia card to play. Apparently bombing Moscow has now been mentioned. A good month or two of fun stories around that upcoming. Could even get Zelensky back for another public dressing down.

GrantDawg 07-09-2025 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466084)
People gave him money for imaginary services. Seems really really odd. Never heard of a billionaire signing over power of attorney to a middling trader from the 80's. Or tens of millions of dollars every year for tax planning to a guy with no real accounting background.

Feels like something more was going on here.

Nah. The DOJ said it was fine. It is all been a big misunderstanding.



Edit: I'm not a big conspiracy guy. I think most things are really hard to keep secret very long, especially when it is in the public eye. It is really hard NOT to see a conspiracy when dealing with Epstein though. To the point that it is really not hard to believe he was a CIA/Mossad operative of some sort. The level of protection and cover up is just too much.

GrantDawg 07-09-2025 02:45 PM

Gutting all the senior scientist at NASA isn't a big deal, right?


Just a moment...

RainMaker 07-09-2025 03:47 PM

Tariffs on countries who won't let his corrupt friends get away with crimes. Blatantly illegal but laws seem optional at this point.

Trump threatens 50% tariffs on Brazil if it doesn’t stop the Bolsonaro ‘witch hunt’ trial | CNN Business

GrantDawg 07-09-2025 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466095)
Tariffs on countries who won't let his corrupt friends get away with crimes. Blatantly illegal but laws seem optional at this point.

Trump threatens 50% tariffs on Brazil if it doesn’t stop the Bolsonaro ‘witch hunt’ trial | CNN Business

HE just wants no politician to ever face corruption charges. I wonder why?

bronconick 07-09-2025 09:57 PM

Bolsonaro on trial for "attempting to stage a coup" after he lost.

Huh.

Ksyrup 07-10-2025 06:42 AM

Even shithole countries have standards that exceed ours.

Fidatelo 07-10-2025 07:32 AM

Sorry for ruining your summer guys. I imagine Trump will slap a tariff on our smoke exports tomorrow.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canadi...mmer-1.7580738

Lathum 07-10-2025 07:40 AM

I can totally see a scenario where Trump suggests putting up “fans” along the northern border that resemble the windmills he demonizes so much.

Ksyrup 07-10-2025 08:01 AM

My boss usually spends a week in isolation just over the border from MN in Canada, where they camp. This year, they were unable to have a campfire and it was really smoky. On the positive side, bugs were virtually nil!

Fidatelo 07-10-2025 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3466104)
I can totally see a scenario where Trump suggests putting up “fans” along the northern border that resemble the windmills he demonizes so much.



Seems right. Maybe the US will bill the cost of the fans back to us as part of the Golden Dome charge.


Though before drastic measures are taken perhaps we can look into creating a Wildfire Czar up here to deal with the source of the problem, nip those fires in the bud.

Atocep 07-10-2025 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3466104)
I can totally see a scenario where Trump suggests putting up “fans” along the northern border that resemble the windmills he demonizes so much.


There are a lot of options to consider here. Build a wall to keep the smoke out and make canada pay for it. Ship the smoke to El Salvador. Deploy the national guard to keep the smoke out.

This sounds a lot like Trump's open border policy for smoke. Who's the administration's smoke czar?

JPhillips 07-10-2025 11:22 AM

The GOP is literally just a channel for conspiracy bots now. Lee Zeldin announced that they are going to officially investigate contrails.

Ksyrup 07-10-2025 12:25 PM

What better way to distract from the real stuff than by playing to what brought a lot of the base to their side?

RainMaker 07-10-2025 01:46 PM

Cops Probed Thomas Fugate Trump Terror Chief, 22, Over Teen Love Triangle

RainMaker 07-10-2025 01:50 PM

I feel like I'm going crazy because this is like the 5th time I've seen him do this when talking about asylum. I genuinely believe that he thinks they're talking about insane asylums when talking about asylum. Am I right or just going crazy because no one else seems to be talking about it?


Thomkal 07-10-2025 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466115)
I feel like I'm going crazy because this is like the 5th time I've seen him do this when talking about asylum. I genuinely believe that he thinks they're talking about insane asylums when talking about asylum. Am I right or just going crazy because no one else seems to be talking about it?


Yeah I do too RM

Danny 07-10-2025 04:01 PM

Next hes going to throw in some references to the joker and two face

NobodyHere 07-10-2025 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466114)


Just Fugate-about-it!

Passacaglia 07-10-2025 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466115)
I feel like I'm going crazy because this is like the 5th time I've seen him do this when talking about asylum. I genuinely believe that he thinks they're talking about insane asylums when talking about asylum. Am I right or just going crazy because no one else seems to be talking about it?



Link?

RainMaker 07-10-2025 08:50 PM


miami_fan 07-10-2025 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3466059)
I don't want to derail the Severe Weather thread with politics, but there's been some pretty good reporting with details on how the GOP completely fucked over Texas residents in Kerr County on the issue of installing flood warning systems which - SHOCKER! - they are now lying about by saying taxpayers wouldn't fund it or it would have cost them money they didn't have.

A review of transcripts of minutes from the Kerr County Commission is pretty enlightening/damning. Specifically, in 2017 there was a grant available to pay the just short of $1M needed to do it, but the Commission refused because the money would come from the Obama Administration. Four years later, they had $5.1M in their account from Biden's America Rescue Plan Act to cover the costs, and again refused, this time because they wouldn't accept money from "criminal" Biden. It's unclear from what I read whether they actually gave the money back, though, because they were afraid it would be sent to NY or NJ or CA to be used for things the TX GOP was against so at the time, they simply elected not to use it specifically for a flood/disaster warning system (which was the proposal at the time) and either used it later for something else, or perhaps eventually gave it back.


I did not read the NYT article. I did find this one from a local non profit news site.

Why Kerr County balked on a new flood warning system | The Texas Tribune

It does not speak on the money from 2017 but there is reporting on the 2021 funding. If what is reported in this article is true, it appears that the politicians seem to doing what the people or at least the people that mattered in that county put them in office to do. I would say this was much closer to consensual fornication.

Quote:

Kerr County did not opt for ARPA to fund flood warning systems despite commissioners discussing such projects nearly two dozen times since 2016. In fact, a survey sent to residents about ARPA spending showed that 42% of the 180 responses wanted to reject the $10 million bonus altogether, largely on political grounds.

“I’m here to ask this court today to send this money back to the Biden administration, which I consider to be the most criminal treasonous communist government ever to hold the White House,” one resident told commissioners in April 2022, fearing strings were attached to the money.

“We don't want to be bought by the federal government, thank you very much,” another resident told commissioners. “We'd like the federal government to stay out of Kerr County and their money.”

When it was all said and done, the county approved $7 million in ARPA dollars on a public safety radio communications system for the sheriff’s department and county fire services to meet the community’s needs for the next 10 years, although earlier estimates put that contract at $5 million. Another $1 million went to sheriff’s employees in the form of stipends and raises, and just over $600,000 went towards additional county positions. A new walking path was also created with the ARPA money.

Ksyrup 07-11-2025 07:03 AM

I was reading from an article that was quoting Commission discussions specifically about a flood warning system that could/wound have been funded by federal money.

What's odd about all of this is, even if you lump the residents in with the Commission in wanting to reject the money for political reasons, it appears they still took the money and used it (or most of it). Just not for this purpose.

But the point remains, that the "taxpayers didn't want to fund it" BS is a complete lie. They weren't asked to fund it. And even if 100% of residents wanted to reject the federal money, using that money for this purpose wasn't asking residents to fund it. That directly implies increasing taxes, or diverting taxes used for something else to this project.

miami_fan 07-11-2025 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3466160)
But the point remains, that the "taxpayers didn't want to fund it" BS is a complete lie. They weren't asked to fund it. And even if 100% of residents wanted to reject the federal money, using that money for this purpose wasn't asking residents to fund it. That directly implies increasing taxes, or diverting taxes used for something else to this project.


I interpreted that differently. In my mind, once they decided to keep it, the taxpayers did not want to use the federal money going to fund the warning system. Instead, they wanted to fund the communication system, raise wages and add government positions more than the warning system. I can't ignore the political theatrics. I am willing to believe that for some using the money the way they did was a better way of giving the Biden administration the finger than sending it back. I just think he system was not as high on the priority list as those other things at the time. They would not be the first community to choose funding things that provide immediate gratification instead things that could prevent potential death in a potential disaster some time in the future. This guy summed it up.

Quote:

Harvey Hilderbran, the former Texas House representative for Kerr County, said what he is watching play out in the community this week is what he’s seen for years in Texas: A disaster hits. There’s a rush to find out who’s accountable. Then outrage pushes officials to shore up deficiencies.

Ksyrup 07-11-2025 11:02 AM

It's not entirely clear whether the same money I read about is what was used to fund some of these other priorities. The numbers don't match from the 2021 discussion, for starters. And going back to 2017, they refused to even apply for the grant that would have provided $1M specifically for this purpose because OBAMA. That was solely on the Commission.

RainMaker 07-11-2025 11:40 AM

It sounds like the first time they got offered money it was from Obama and they said no. The second time under Biden they wanted to say no but Cornyn told them to take the money and just spend it on other stuff.

In the end they had multiple opportunities to put in the system and save lives but chose not to. They should be the ones held responsible although killing kids through incompetence seems to be some Texas pride thing at this point.

miami_fan 07-11-2025 11:42 AM

The Epstein situation has created some strange bedfellows which has led to some of the strangest retweets on Twitter.

RainMaker 07-11-2025 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3466165)
The Epstein situation has created some strange bedfellows which has led to some of the strangest retweets on Twitter.


It's pretty fascinating to see play out. Part of Trump's allure with non-traditional voters was that he would do stuff that President's wouldn't do like investigate conspiracy theories. He went as far as to put those conspiracy theorists in high levels of government. But now they either can't find evidence of those conspiracies despite lauding them for years or can't release them for political reasons (not going to implicate Peter Thiel in a pedophile ring).

I don't know if this dies down in a couple weeks as they move on to the next conspiracy. But they're like 10 years into the "a cabal of famous pedophiles are controlling the world and Trump will stop it" and this has to be fucking with their reality a bit. The dog caught the car and now doesn't know what to do.

Edit: Not helping their case when they claim video cameras were broken, then release video from those cameras but modify it.

Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified | WIRED

Atocep 07-11-2025 12:34 PM

Tom Homan was on Fox News saying ICE can legally detain anyone based on physical appearance.

Thomkal 07-11-2025 12:43 PM

Well then lets legally detain Homan and see what happens

GrantDawg 07-11-2025 02:08 PM

DAn Bongino, Deputy Director of the FBI, is considering resigning over the mishandling of the Epstein files by Pam Bondi.
Deputy FBI Director Bongino has told people he is considering resigning amid Epstein files fallout | CNN Politics

Lathum 07-11-2025 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3466173)
DAn Bongino, Deputy Director of the FBI, is considering resigning over the mishandling of the Epstein files by Pam Bondi.
Deputy FBI Director Bongino has told people he is considering resigning amid Epstein files fallout | CNN Politics


I heard a mash up of his comments prior to him being a part of the administration, you know back when they were going to expose the pedos, and the way this has played out makes him look like an absolute clown.

If he believes all the things he claims to then he should resign.

RainMaker 07-11-2025 02:40 PM

It's just theater. Trying to save his podcast career when this is over.

He can't quit because there isn't much of a market for right-wing people who are anti-Trump. But staying kind of kills his whole gimmick of "exposing the elites and deep state" when he is quite clearly part of the deep state. Like I said, it's tough when the dog finally catches the car. Alex Jones is going through it too.

GrantDawg 07-11-2025 03:01 PM

"The Daily Wire is reporting that FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino has made it clear: it’s either him or Attorney General Pam Bondi."

RainMaker 07-11-2025 05:17 PM

Wild story although not totally surprising. Others have picked it up.

Does Trump’s Biggest Crypto Backer Really Exist? | The Nation

GrantDawg 07-11-2025 06:38 PM

The momentum is building that Bondi is about to be shown the door.

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RainMaker 07-11-2025 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3466186)
The momentum is building that Bondi is about to be shown the door.

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The question is who in the world takes that job? People are going to still want those files and there is no chance Trump is going to allow anything to see the light of day.

Thomkal 07-11-2025 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3466186)
The momentum is building that Bondi is about to be shown the door.

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Can't wait for the Tweet that fires her

GrantDawg 07-11-2025 07:44 PM

"It is NOT amnesty. It is a new word that's definition is really identical to amnesty."
https://nypost.com/2025/07/11/us-new...-from-farmers/

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RainMaker 07-11-2025 08:15 PM

The Epstein stuff is such an insane weakness for Trump with a particular demographic but the Democrats can't go on the attack because they are still protecting the Clintons.

bronconick 07-11-2025 08:40 PM

And the rich in general.

GrantDawg 07-12-2025 05:00 AM

This is what happens when you limit FEMA money. It is not just the lack of reimbursements to people who lost homes. It is local emergency management doesn't have the resources they need to fully fund rescue operations. Then people die.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/c...smid=url-share

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Edward64 07-12-2025 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3466186)
The momentum is building that Bondi is about to be shown the door.


And then, there'll still the "Epstein files" issue.

I assume since FBI reports to AG, that the FBI provided much/all of the "Epstein files" to Bondi? So, if Bondi is tossed and regardless of who the new AG is, the FBI stuff will be released?

Conspiracy theory wise ...

I really don't think Trump can be tied to Epstein's Lolita express. So, whatever is in the files that could be embarrassing/liability to him, is losing its importance by his supporters disbelief there is not more in the files ... so good odds that he'll abandon Bondi.

The only thing in the files that could be "that" embarrassing to him is if (let's say) family like Eric/Don Jr was in the files tied to the trafficking.

Lathum 07-12-2025 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3466196)
This is what happens when you limit FEMA money. It is not just the lack of reimbursements to people who lost homes. It is local emergency management doesn't have the resources they need to fully fund rescue operations. Then people die.

nytimes.com

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They will still blame Biden.

Mota 07-12-2025 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3466200)
They will still blame Biden.


Exactly. It doesn't matter. People have overlooked so many things already because they won't turn against "their team", so they're not going to start now.

RainMaker 07-12-2025 10:34 AM

This is actually some really good points.


Atocep 07-12-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466209)
This is actually some really good points.



Tucker must be sensing that the grift may be running dry soon.

GrantDawg 07-12-2025 11:33 AM

So many reasons for that, but the fact that 25% of all homes sold are bought by private investors. In this area, it is a much higher percentage in the starter home level. It is market manipulation.

Atocep 07-12-2025 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3466214)
So many reasons for that, but the fact that 25% of all homes sold are bought by private investors. In this area, it is a much higher percentage in the starter home level. It is market manipulation.


When we bought our home in 2020 the people selling got a literal last minute cash offer on the house from a private equity. We were lucky that their realtor steered them away from that offer.

GrantDawg 07-12-2025 12:10 PM

Same thing is happening to small businesses. They are doing it in my industry, my wife's industry, the medical industry at large. Family owned is soon to be a thing of the past.

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RainMaker 07-12-2025 12:25 PM

The median homebuyer age is 56 years old. It was 31 years old in 1981.

RainMaker 07-12-2025 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3466213)
Tucker must be sensing that the grift may be running dry soon.


He knows where the winds are blowing and jumping on the populist train. Basically all the stuff Dems should be saying if they were an actual opposition party.

Makes me think he might run in 2028 if there is considerable pushback on MAGA. The biggest advantage he has is he can articulate points which most older politicians cant. Is there any Dem candidate outside of maybe Mayor Pete who can articulate like this for an audience?


NobodyHere 07-12-2025 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466232)
He knows where the winds are blowing and jumping on the populist train. Basically all the stuff Dems should be saying if they were an actual opposition party.

Makes me think he might run in 2028 if there is considerable pushback on MAGA. The biggest advantage he has is he can articulate points which most older politicians cant. Is there any Dem candidate outside of maybe Mayor Pete who can articulate like this for an audience?



So you're saying that a future Democratic candidate needs to tap into conspiracy rhetoric? Cuz that's what Tucker is doing in this video. And I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong...

GrantDawg 07-12-2025 04:54 PM

Trump released his defense of Bondi saying the Epstein list was created by Democrats, while also blaming them for not releasing the list. He is setting up for anything Epstein related to be Democratic fiction.

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RainMaker 07-12-2025 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3466234)
So you're saying that a future Democratic candidate needs to tap into conspiracy rhetoric? Cuz that's what Tucker is doing in this video. And I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong...


It's not really a conspiracy at this point. Maybe the part about whether he killed himself or not is, but it's pretty well documented his ties to both foreign and domestic intelligence.

And I didn't mean it to really be about Epstein so much as anti-establishment talk. Why is the government keeping this a huge secret? Why are we doing all this to protect a supposed ally? The establishment on both sides is incredibly unpopular and if you want to win major elections, you're going to have to run against them at some point. Trump did it in 2016.

RainMaker 07-12-2025 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3466235)
Trump released his defense of Bondi saying the Epstein list was created by Democrats, while also blaming them for not releasing the list. He is setting up for anything Epstein related to be Democratic fiction.

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I haven't seen him this rattled in a long time. This Epstein stuff is really making him uncomfortable.

GrantDawg 07-12-2025 08:32 PM

https://x.com/megynkelly/status/1944198610519719989

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PilotMan 07-12-2025 08:44 PM

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https://x.com/megynkelly/status/1944198610519719989

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I'd figure 1 is more likely, but this group lives by the mantra of 2, so push 2 all day and all night, because that's what has been earned.

RainMaker 07-12-2025 09:35 PM

#1 makes no sense. He campaigned on it. So did his family. His own lawyer said she saw videos and how horrific the files were. The AG said she had these files on her own desk. The two highest ranking FBI officials have spent years talking about them. They even made a huge show on the front lawn of the White House with binders for right-wing influencers months ago.

So that can't be Bondi misspeaking. That's a whole lot of people blatantly lying about the systematic rape of children and then running to hide when their bluff was called.

I think the most logical answer is it involves intelligence and people he and others in power are close to (big donors, foreign leaders, etc). Used to not think Trump was actually on them despite his close friendship with Epstein, but for a guy who would throw anyone under the bus for personal gain, it's really odd he wouldn't throw everyone under the bus here. And the part about "the Democrats made them up" sure feels like getting out in front of something he's involved in.

PilotMan 07-12-2025 09:43 PM

None of those people new anything before those roles. You can't speak like the title of their office means anything, It's not like they've had a career of service and knowledge of these things. They were full on conspiracy people selling snake oil all along, and just because he elevated them doesn't mean shit. They are still nobodies, and know nothings.


Having said that, the constant narrative pushing and the signaling to his base of who they need to look at is clearly a rouse. There is nobody else he needs it to benefit than himself. So that does beg the question.

RainMaker 07-12-2025 10:37 PM

I get the stuff before they took office and how the conspiracy stuff is a huge grift. However, Trump was President and was in office when Epstein died. He isn't talking as an outsider with no knowledge of the situation. He had access to everything.

But all these people did this when they were in office too. Alina Habba went on TV in her official White House role and said they had all the evidence and would be exposing it. They held a big event at the White House smiling with files. Put out a press release too and talked about how it was only phase one.

So I can understand if they took office and found nothing and came out with that. But they hyped this up while in office and while they had access to any potential files. So they are either covering this up or there is nothing there and Epstein got completely railroaded by the justice system.



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