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Passacaglia 06-13-2025 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3464607)
I would say 98% of the US is oblivious to the underlying sentiment in the lyrics of Born in the USA. And that's probably being charitable.


Whoops, got beat to it.

Ksyrup 06-13-2025 09:24 PM

A guy named James Donald Vance Jr was indicted for threatening to kill ... JD Vance.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 08:11 AM

Someone dressed as ICE has shot two different state legislators and their spouses in Minnesota. Names haven't been released and suspect is still at large.
https://www.fox9.com/news/brooklyn-p...onating-police


Edit: Names are released. Sen. John Hoffman and Rep Melissa Hortman

PilotMan 06-14-2025 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3464635)
A guy named James Donald Vance Jr was indicted for threatening to kill ... JD Vance.



I think it's very telling that you had this stuff going on nearly daily when Obama was president, and they always hid behind the first amendment. I think people like Ted Nugent would have been behind bars if you had someone try and emulate that in today's environment.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 09:53 AM

Rep. Hortman is dead. 4 others are injured.

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JPhillips 06-14-2025 09:55 AM

Worth noting that the MN House and Senate are basically evenly split.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 10:00 AM

Little more: He was not dressed as ICE but a regular police, in a police-like SUV with lights. He hit the Senator and his wife, and while police responded to that, they also went and checked on Rep. Hortman. The suspect was there, returned fire and ran. This whole thing is crazy.

PilotMan 06-14-2025 11:40 AM

trump may have well pulled the trigger himself.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464662)
Little more: He was not dressed as ICE but a regular police, in a police-like SUV with lights. He hit the Senator and his wife, and while police responded to that, they also went and checked on Rep. Hortman. The suspect was there, returned fire and ran. This whole thing is crazy.


That detail was the one that really had me scratching my head.

JPhillips 06-14-2025 12:22 PM

It's only a matter of time until a real cop is killed because of the way ICE is running around with masks and no identifying name tags.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 12:26 PM

If the shooting suspect being identified on social media is accurately named, then it appears that he runs a security service and that might explain the access to what appeared to be a patrol car.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 12:38 PM

Worth noting that the two legislators shot were among only a handful of (D) who joined with (R)s to pass a budget bill that strips state-funded healthcare from illegals immigrants.

(Hortman was the only (D) member of the house to do so)

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 01:05 PM

Over 70 names on his list. "The names included abortion providers, pro-abortion rights advocates, and lawmakers in Minnesota and other states, the official added."

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JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464671)
Over 70 nsmes on his list. "The names included abortion providers, pro-abortion rights advocates, and lawmakers in Minnesota and other states, the official added."


Nothing about this makes sense so far frankly, which is why I'm not inclined to draw any firm conclusions at this point.

Based on some of the stuff I've seen that the suspect appears to be connected to, there's a path that might connect the seemingly different dots but to travel it sort of requires a route like little Billy took to get the mail in the old Family Circus cartoons.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 01:59 PM

It is most likely going to follow the pattern most of these do. He is paramilitary, police wannabe, weird politics, and had some kind of break in his personal life. Snapped, and is going on spree.

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JPhillips 06-14-2025 02:00 PM

Yeah I've learned there isn't any point in trying to find rationality in a senseless act.

RainMaker 06-14-2025 02:05 PM

Seems like a pretty run of the mill right wing evangelical with Fox News brain. Unless there is some weird connection we don't know about, I don't think this one is hard to figure out. Its a political assassination to flip the MN House.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464675)
Seems like a pretty run of the mill right wing evangelical with Fox News brain. Unless there is some weird connection we don't know about, I don't think this one is hard to figure out. Its a political assassination to flip the MN House.


And a Walz political appointee, who wife appears to have interned for Walz about a decade ago.

PilotMan 06-14-2025 02:11 PM

trump has to pardon him, right? Like it's a requirement now.

PilotMan 06-14-2025 02:12 PM

In jon world, only one side of the political spectrum is allowed to exist. Those on the opposite side are silly for ever considering any sort of equal share.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 02:12 PM

I'm tired of the "Trump pardon" thing. He is going to be up on state charges. Trump couldn't pardon him if he wanted to.

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Ryche 06-14-2025 02:51 PM

Solidly Democrat area, those seats won't be flipping. She did vote to stop allowing health care for illegal immigrants (children still covered) but she did that as the leader of the house as part of a compromise to pass the budget.

NobodyHere 06-14-2025 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3464676)
And a Walz political appointee, who wife appears to have interned for Walz about a decade ago.


Apparently he didn't think well of Walz as Walz was on Vance Luther Boelter's hit list

JPhillips 06-14-2025 05:41 PM

Damn the military parade looks more like a small town Memorial Day parade. The bleachers in he shot I saw are almost entirely empty.

Atocep 06-14-2025 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3464692)
Damn the military parade looks more like a small town Memorial Day parade. The bleachers in he shot I saw are almost entirely empty.



I told my wife it looks like a Kid Rock concert. I knew the crowd was small, but I wasn't ready for how small.

kingfc22 06-14-2025 06:51 PM

Should have held the parade in Florida or some Midwest MAGA farm if he wanted an audience.

RainMaker 06-14-2025 07:53 PM

lol

RainMaker 06-14-2025 09:14 PM


Passacaglia 06-14-2025 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464695)
lol


Giving "having a bake sale to buy a bomber" vibes

RainMaker 06-14-2025 10:52 PM

Two really funny things were them continuing to cut to aerial shots showing how pathetic the turnout was and all the sponsors. Hegseth needed to get up and say sponsored by Carl's Jr to complete the humiliation ritual.

JPhillips 06-15-2025 04:51 PM

Looks like Trump has effectively nationalized US Steel.

Good thing the communists didn't win the election.

RainMaker 06-15-2025 05:25 PM

Looks like there was a mass shooting attempt in Salt Lake City yesterday. Details are fuzzy but it sounds like a security guard shot the suspect when he pulled out his rifle but also hit an innocent bystander.

Two terrorist attacks in a day.

Ksyrup 06-15-2025 05:48 PM

I keep seeing video of a guy sneaking away with a shooting suspect's backpack because he saw a gun, preventing a possible mass shooting. I think that was in SLC. Not sure.

GrantDawg 06-15-2025 08:16 PM

The Senator and wife that survived the assassin's attack took a combined 17 bullets. The mom shielded their daughter from the rain of bullets. Amazing.

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GrantDawg 06-16-2025 01:44 AM

They caught the guy. I still haven't seen details other than he is in custody.

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Ghost Econ 06-16-2025 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464730)
Looks like there was a mass shooting attempt in Salt Lake City yesterday. Details are fuzzy but it sounds like a security guard shot the suspect when he pulled out his rifle but also hit an innocent bystander.

Two terrorist attacks in a day.


There also a couple instances of people driving cars through the protests. But Florida said that's fine so I guess we can't count that.

Ghost Econ 06-16-2025 06:03 AM

I think it's pretty clear the Trump and the people in his administration are actively pushing for a Civil War.


RainMaker 06-16-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464747)
They caught the guy. I still haven't seen details other than he is in custody.


He apparently went to 4 lawmakers homes but they weren't home. Pretty crazy stuff and meticulously planned.

Also found it odd that his wife was caught with passports, cash, and guns during a traffic stop. His brother and supposed co-worker at his security firm used to work for the FBI. Other than that, the gist seems to be he was a MAGA fanatic and Christian nationalist who had fallen on hard times.

miami_fan 06-16-2025 12:30 PM

‘Extremely disturbing and unethical’: new rules allow VA doctors to refuse to treat Democrats, unmarried veterans | Trump administration | The Guardian

Sure I guess.

Atocep 06-16-2025 01:29 PM

More ways for MAGA to spend their life savings propping up a billionaire, but the next time a dem is in office prices of everything will be a problem again.

reuters.com

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Donald Trump's family business licensed its name to launch a U.S. mobile service and a $499 smartphone on Monday, calling it Trump Mobile, in the latest deal brokered by the president's children to capitalize on his last name while he is in office.

RainMaker 06-16-2025 01:49 PM

There is no way these will be made in America.

Quote:

The announcement also promoted the launch of a "sleek, gold smartphone" that will be "designed and built in the United States."

Passacaglia 06-16-2025 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464773)
There is no way these will be made in America.


Well, let's just say there won't be any tariffs paid on it.

Also...the phone doubles as the long awaited TrumpCare! Talk about burying the lede.

Quote:

"We are going to be introducing an entire package of products where people can come and they can get telemedicine on their phones for one flat monthly fee, roadside assistance on their cars, unlimited texting to 100 countries around the world," said the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr.

Ghost Econ 06-16-2025 02:17 PM

That sounds a lot like socialism...

GrantDawg 06-16-2025 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464776)
That sounds a lot like socialism...

No, I'm sure they are going to make a huge profit and provide little to no service. That is classic late-stage capitalism.

RainMaker 06-16-2025 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3464774)
Well, let's just say there won't be any tariffs paid on it.

Also...the phone doubles as the long awaited TrumpCare! Talk about burying the lede.


Saved MAGA $350 if they want to buy direct.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807130553740.html

RainMaker 06-16-2025 03:54 PM

An insane deep dive into DOGE.
nytimes.com

Passacaglia 06-16-2025 08:29 PM

We talked about apartheid in Israel, but I guess it's headed here too..

‘Extremely disturbing and unethical’: new rules allow VA doctors to refuse to treat Democrats, unmarried veterans | Trump administration | The Guardian

RainMaker 06-17-2025 12:22 PM

nytimes.com

BYU 14 06-17-2025 12:27 PM

So what puts Israel in a position to pressure the US to do their bidding when they rely on us for most of their support?

RainMaker 06-17-2025 12:35 PM

The massive amounts of money they give to our politicians for the past few decades.

GrantDawg 06-17-2025 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464827)
The massive amounts of money they give to our politicians for the past few decades.

That, and certain groups religious and political leanings. Evangelicals believe Israel is the fulfillment of prophecy for one. Neo-cons that want Israel to help fulfill their dream of US domination over the region for another.

RainMaker 06-17-2025 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464837)
That, and certain groups religious and political leanings. Evangelicals believe Israel is the fulfillment of prophecy for one. Neo-cons that want Israel to help fulfill their dream of US domination over the region for another.


Yeah, that's a pretty big one. Most polls show Evangelicals have more support for Israel than Jewish people in the United States.

Ghost Econ 06-17-2025 01:54 PM

Probably because those evangelicals think of the Jews as just lacking a little push to Jesus or they'll be easier to convince to hand over Israel than Muslims would be.

RainMaker 06-17-2025 01:55 PM

This is a good summary.

American Evangelicals' Unique Support for Israel | Chicago Council on Global Affairs

Passacaglia 06-17-2025 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464854)
Probably because those evangelicals think of the Jews as just lacking a little push to Jesus


Interesting, since Islam is closer to Christianity in its beliefs on Jesus than Judaism is.

GrantDawg 06-17-2025 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464854)
Probably because those evangelicals think of the Jews as just lacking a little push to Jesus or they'll be easier to convince to hand over Israel than Muslims would be.

No, it is this (from that article):
Quote:

Many evangelicals maintain that the continued existence of Israel is key to their understanding of the end times, as explained in the Book of Revelations. They believe that Jews must possess their own country in the Holy Land of Israel before the second coming of Jesus can occur, which is seen as the ultimate goal in Christian theology, with the establishment of a Christly kingdom on Earth. These distinctive religious beliefs lead to significant differences in evangelicals’ views of Israel compared to other Americans.

whomario 06-17-2025 02:33 PM

Somewhere in Pyongyang Kim Jong-Un is asking his underlings why they can't be more like Tammy Bruce.
.

cuervo72 06-17-2025 03:19 PM

Thanks for fucking everything up, religion!

RainMaker 06-17-2025 03:32 PM

Allowing foreign governments to bribe our politicians deserves some credit too.

GrantDawg 06-17-2025 05:54 PM

Kristi Neom was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance. My guess is someone poured a bucket of water on her.

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Ksyrup 06-17-2025 05:56 PM

Apparently an allergic reaction. To heroin, likely.

bronconick 06-17-2025 05:58 PM

A well trained dog left something nearby as payback.

sovereignstar v2 06-17-2025 06:05 PM

Phoughts and trayers

Atocep 06-17-2025 06:52 PM

This is normal

US Army’s nerd force; Palantir, Meta, OpenAI tech bosses join Executive Innovation Corps, one sold knives in college - The Economic Times

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The US Army officially launched Detachment 201: Executive Innovation Corps on June 13, 2025, as part of its broader Army Transformation Initiative. The new reserve unit aims to integrate top technology executives into the Army Reserve to support innovation and modernization across military operations.

Participants are commissioned as part-time lieutenant colonels and will serve as strategic advisors, offering insight into emerging technologies and supporting the development of tech-driven defense capabilities.

Four prominent figures from the tech industry were sworn in as the inaugural members of the Executive Innovation Corps. The founding cohort includes Shyam Sankar, Chief Technology Officer at Palantir; Andrew Bosworth, Chief Technology Officer of Meta; Kevin Weil, Chief Product Officer at OpenAI; and Bob McGrew, former Chief Research Officer at OpenAI and current advisor at Thinking Machines Lab.


RainMaker 06-17-2025 08:02 PM

Story was horrible already but this adds to it.

Redirect Notice

NobodyHere 06-18-2025 10:50 AM

So much winning!

Mike Lindell Declares Victory After Crushing Trial Defeat

tldr Mike is declaring "Victory" because he was only ordered to pay $2.3 million in damages instead of the $26.7 million the claimant sought.

Start selling more of those pillows Mike!

Atocep 06-18-2025 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3464928)
So much winning!

Mike Lindell Declares Victory After Crushing Trial Defeat

tldr Mike is declaring "Victory" because he was only ordered to pay $2.3 million in damages instead of the $26.7 million the claimant sought.

Start selling more of those pillows Mike!



He's apparently over $10 million in debt and his pillow company is mostly dead. Another guy that destroyed his own life for Trump and got nothing for it.

Thomkal 06-18-2025 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3464928)
So much winning!

Mike Lindell Declares Victory After Crushing Trial Defeat

tldr Mike is declaring "Victory" because he was only ordered to pay $2.3 million in damages instead of the $26.7 million the claimant sought.

Start selling more of those pillows Mike!



I wish there was some way to have him tested for mental illness, he so clearly is delusional. Sadly he's going to lose every last dollar to his name because of it

Ghost Econ 06-18-2025 11:17 AM

A fool and his money .. Something Something...

For every loser we know of that hitches their wagon to MAGA and loses the money, how many more are out that being quiet and making bank?

Lathum 06-19-2025 12:08 PM

This is vile, cruel, and unnecessary. Kids are going to die from this.

Trump administration ends 988 suicide prevention service for LGBTQ+ youth : Shots - Health News : NPR

GrantDawg 06-19-2025 07:29 PM

Trump complains we have "too many" non-working holidays. Just so happens he complains about that on Juneteenth. Coincidence? I think not. I wonder which holidays exactly he wants eliminated? I think we all know the answer.


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RainMaker 06-19-2025 07:35 PM

The funny thing is we don't really have that many holidays compared to the rest of the world.

Fidatelo 06-20-2025 07:14 AM

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“The workers don’t want it either,” he added.


Yeah, workers hate paid days off. :rolleyes:

Passacaglia 06-20-2025 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 3465015)
Yeah, workers hate paid days off. :rolleyes:


Assuming they lose a day of PTO for it, they do (or should). I don't know about all companies, but that's the way it was at the place I worked when we started getting it off.

There's an intelligent discussion to be had around days off, PTO, and how to handle a society where different people celebrate different things, but of course we're not going to have it here because a) it's pretty damn far down on the list, and b) when the White House acts like a holiday celebrating the end of slavery isn't worth celebrating, "holiday" is not the key term here.

Ksyrup 06-20-2025 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464992)
Trump complains we have "too many" non-working holidays. Just so happens he complains about that on Juneteenth. Coincidence? I think not. I wonder which holidays exactly he wants eliminated? I think we all know the answer.


Access to this page has been denied


I'm old enough to remember this:

Trump pledges to make Juneteenth federal holiday in bid for Black voters

NobodyHere 06-20-2025 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464995)
The funny thing is we don't really have that many holidays compared to the rest of the world.


Certainly not India

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cuervo72 06-20-2025 11:46 AM

I mean they've never liked MLK Day.

Danny 06-20-2025 12:06 PM

You know before he leaves office hes going to try for a Trump national holiday

RainMaker 06-20-2025 12:08 PM

To be honest, as long as I'm getting paid for the day, they can make it a weeklong holiday for him. I don't care.

Ksyrup 06-20-2025 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3465040)
You know before he leaves office hes going to try for a Trump national holiday


He won't, the bootlickers in Congress will.

Thomkal 06-20-2025 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3465040)
You know before he leaves office hes going to try for a Trump national holiday



I mean why would you think that? Because they already tried to get him on Mt Rushmore? and rename the airport in perhaps the most Democratic Party strong, Washington DC after all? Surely he at least deserves his own National Holiday? I vote for Jan 6

JPhillips 06-20-2025 01:57 PM

Looks like the head of the WH Office of Personnel is a Russian spy. Sergio Gor is really Sergey Goryachev.

GrantDawg 06-24-2025 09:35 PM

Coumo got beat bad after all the money and big party loyalist endorsements. Couldn't have happened to a bigger pos.

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RainMaker 06-24-2025 09:52 PM

The support Cuomo got from the party is why the Democrats are dead in the water. Just no interest in winning.

Edward64 06-25-2025 05:40 AM

Supposedly, GOP is pushing for July 4 for the OBBBA. Ready for the GOP House & Senate to agree on something so we can all move on.

Below is the breakdown of the $ so far.

Breaking Down the One Big Beautiful Bill-2025-06-04

PilotMan 06-25-2025 01:09 PM

Cuomo should never have been the guy. I mean, lets' get Marion Barry back out there, or maybe Rod Blagojevic can run again. All these great examples of public leadership out there just fighting against corruption and for the people again!

RainMaker 06-25-2025 01:27 PM

I didn't follow the race much but it goes to show you what having a young, personable person running for office can do on the campaign compared to some decrepit old guy you have to hide. The guy seemed to be on every talk show, podcast, etc that you could find. He cleaned up in the demographics that Democrats struggle with (young men primarily).

Ksyrup 06-25-2025 01:40 PM

The guy who wants government-run grocery stores won the Wall Street demo. Not sure anyone in this country knows what they want anymore.

cuervo72 06-25-2025 01:54 PM

But CNBC told me they were going to make all the Wall Street guys walk out onto ice on the East River...?

RainMaker 06-25-2025 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3465318)
The guy who wants government-run grocery stores won the Wall Street demo. Not sure anyone in this country knows what they want anymore.


It's really popular among younger people and Democrats in general. It seems like his whole campaign was just picking issues that were popular with the base and going all-in on it. Helps he didn't have a bunch of corporate donors pushing back.

And when the party couldn't touch him on the issues, they went after him on Israel (which is just insane for a Mayoral race). But the party still hasn't figured out that Israel is quite unpopular with Democrats. Or that just being really racist doesn't do well with young Democrats anymore.

Regardless, they don't need $25 million to figure out what young men want. Nor a set of astroturfed podcasts. Just run young people who can speak well and take popular positions on issues. Not terribly complicated. Fuck, Obama did this in 2008 and they still haven't figured out why he won.

Passacaglia 06-26-2025 01:24 PM

Trump said the price of eggs went down 400%. I told the kids I'm getting rid of all their stuff so I can store more eggs. I know they'll probably be a little bummed, but it will be worth it to get all that money.

Ghost Econ 06-26-2025 02:20 PM

Dude went to the Wharton school of business. I think he understands percentages better than us plebes.

RainMaker 06-26-2025 02:34 PM

What is it with the media and covering up for these old guys who clearly are in deep cognitive decline?

GrantDawg 06-26-2025 03:26 PM

Trump says he authorized Iran to attack US bases, even set the time for the attack. Imagine Obama saying that.

PilotMan 06-26-2025 04:44 PM

He's the real Supreme Leader in Iran.

dubb93 06-26-2025 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3465380)
Trump says he authorized Iran to attack US bases, even set the time for the attack. Imagine Obama saying that.


Is there a video of this? If he really used those words how is that not plastered everywhere?

Lathum 06-27-2025 09:45 AM

Lots of bad news in this report for the dems

Behind Trump's 2024 Victory: Turnout, Voting Patterns and Demographics | Pew Research Center

Lathum 06-27-2025 09:48 AM

dola- the obvious question for 2028 is what will turnout look like without Trump on the ballot.

JPhillips 06-27-2025 10:23 AM

Gonna be fun watching people in red states freak out when they can't get access to porn.

Atocep 06-27-2025 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3465420)
Gonna be fun watching people in red states freak out when they can't get access to porn.


As long as they don't lose access to grindr.


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