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kingfc22 05-26-2025 08:05 PM

Who says Happy Memorial Day or Happy Holidays on Memorial Day? Both are dumb

Atocep 05-26-2025 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3463741)
Who says Happy Memorial Day or Happy Holidays on Memorial Day? Both are dumb


I see it quite a bit. It's odd when you think about the purpose of the day, but it doesn't bother me. There's no ill meaning behind. The happy holidays comparison is because it's another thing that MAGA pretends bothers them.

MAGA was trying to turn it into a hill to die upon because they love grandstanding on behalf of servicemembers when it means nothing and they're not required to actually do anything. Trump then went out and undercut their false anger by tweeting Happy Memorial Day this morning though.

JPhillips 05-26-2025 09:39 PM

The President of Peru has a 1.6% approval rating.

RainMaker 05-26-2025 11:16 PM

The reverse Saddam

Atocep 05-27-2025 12:39 PM

Hegseth directing the NSA to illegally wiretap his employees should be a huge scandal. Instead it's just another day in the Trump administration.

RainMaker 05-27-2025 05:54 PM

Trump set to pardon reality TV stars Todd and Julie Chrisley

dubb93 05-27-2025 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3463757)


Welcome to American where jaywalking results in a heavy fine and rich people are immune from any sort of punishment so long as they are willing to bend the knee.

Lathum 05-28-2025 10:47 AM

The saddest part of this entire story is this kids parents are grooming him to be a hateful bigot.

Supreme Court declines case on student's 'only two genders' T-shirt

JPhillips 05-28-2025 11:29 AM

RFK says government scientists may be barred from publishing and Linda McMahon says universities are free to research anything so long as the admin agrees.

dubb93 05-28-2025 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3463770)
The saddest part of this entire story is this kids parents are grooming him to be a hateful bigot.

Supreme Court declines case on student's 'only two genders' T-shirt


There are alot of shirts that are banned. When I was in high school I had a shirt with two turtles fucking on it and it Slow Poke. I had another one with a squirrel who had a horde of nuts and it said Get Off My Nuts. They made me turn each of those inside out for the day and said I'd get in school suspension if I wore them back. I didn't take it to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

Kodos 05-28-2025 01:16 PM

You should have worn those shirts in front of the Supreme Court.

RainMaker 05-28-2025 01:22 PM

Oh no

sovereignstar v2 05-28-2025 01:26 PM

Big Johnson shirts, anyone?

RainMaker 05-28-2025 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3463783)
Big Johnson shirts, anyone?


I was going to say that. Those were banned in our school. Same with the Coed Naked shirts.

sovereignstar v2 05-28-2025 01:33 PM

You can keep my Big Johnson shirt. No Fear is where it’s at now

RainMaker 05-28-2025 03:35 PM

Tell that to my Big Dogs shirt collection.

GrantDawg 05-28-2025 06:18 PM

A three judge panel from US Court of International Trade has enjoined Trump's tariffs, saying they go beyond the authority has from the the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.

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RainMaker 05-28-2025 08:01 PM

Yeah, the fentanyl excuse doesn't exactly fly. Pretty embarrassing it got that far.

Mota 05-28-2025 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3463799)
Yeah, the fentanyl excuse doesn't exactly fly. Pretty embarrassing it got that far.


Using facts to call him out that it wasn't ever fentanyl didn't take very long.

But perhaps the tariffs saved over 500 million Americans from dying from that 6 ounces of fentanyl that they found so far at the northern border so far in 2025.

Ryche 05-28-2025 10:03 PM

I don't think the ruling affects those tariffs on Canada, just the across the board 10%.

Fidatelo 05-29-2025 07:40 AM

I don't even care about the tariffs anymore. I go out of my way to purchase anything but American products from anywhere that is non-American whenever possible. If the tariffs encourage companies to look for non-American suppliers for some of the goods that are still hard to find alternatives for then that's even better. I never thought I'd look at a package and say "oh Product of China, good" but here we are.

Mota 05-29-2025 07:55 AM

Tariffs are the strategy of isolationist societies. The global trade will re-align itself over time to avoid countries with higher cost of business, or higher risk.

Ksyrup 05-30-2025 08:04 AM

Apparently Gretchen Whitmer is merely "disappointed" that Trump is considering a pardon for the people convicted of attempting to kidnap (and God knows what else they would have done to) her.

Personally, I get disappointed about things like, say, when two games I want to watch are on at the same time.

Weird how different people get disappointed by such wildly different things!

PilotMan 05-30-2025 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3463832)
Apparently Gretchen Whitmer is merely "disappointed" that Trump is considering a pardon for the people convicted of attempting to kidnap (and God knows what else they would have done to) her.

Personally, I get disappointed about things like, say, when two games I want to watch are on at the same time.

Weird how different people get disappointed by such wildly different things!



I mean, trump's lawyer stated that the 60 Minutes interview broadcast with Harris caused him severe emotional and cognitive distress that he's struggled to overcome. So it's basically the exact same thing.

PilotMan 05-30-2025 08:55 AM

He's pardoning every person he can find who was convicted of the crimes he's been accused of and found guilty of. I wonder why? Trying to set the stage that they were all convicted unfairly, and that they did nothing wrong, to further his own crimes, and to desensitize Americans that these things are actually wrong. It's a play similar to the big lie. You repeat something enough times and people will simply start to believe it. In this case, he's saying that anyone who engaged in these white collar crimes isn't a real threat, not a real criminal and they didn't do anything wrong other than just try and get ahead in a competitive world.

flere-imsaho 05-30-2025 09:11 AM

If we ever get around to amending the Constitution, the power of the presidential pardon needs to go.

Mota 05-30-2025 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3463835)
If we ever get around to amending the Constitution, the power of the presidential pardon needs to go.


It seems like the use of it has really change in scope in the last couple of years.

flere-imsaho 05-30-2025 12:16 PM

I don't understand why it was there in the first place, given one of the points of the Founders was to not have kings. But there's probably something historical I'm missing.

NobodyHere 05-30-2025 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3463851)
I don't understand why it was there in the first place, given one of the points of the Founders was to not have kings. But there's probably something historical I'm missing.


Personally I think any pardons should have to be approved by the majority of the house or something

RainMaker 05-30-2025 01:09 PM

I think it is a needed check on the judicial branch. I just think corruption has gotten so rampant that everything in government is for sale.

Ksyrup 05-30-2025 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3463834)
He's pardoning every person he can find who was convicted of the crimes he's been accused of and found guilty of. I wonder why? Trying to set the stage that they were all convicted unfairly, and that they did nothing wrong, to further his own crimes, and to desensitize Americans that these things are actually wrong. It's a play similar to the big lie. You repeat something enough times and people will simply start to believe it. In this case, he's saying that anyone who engaged in these white collar crimes isn't a real threat, not a real criminal and they didn't do anything wrong other than just try and get ahead in a competitive world.


Right on cue, Trump already commenting on a possible Diddy pardon.

RainMaker 05-30-2025 03:31 PM

Pretty insane story here.

nytimes.com

Also not included but sort of hinted at by other news outlets is that Musk and Stephen Miller's wife had an affair.

Ksyrup 05-30-2025 07:38 PM

It's even worse than that - they were apparently a throuple, then she left him because of Musk. And Miller was recently furiously subtweeting Musk which seems like an awfully big coincidence.

GrantDawg 05-30-2025 09:38 PM

Well, she had a type. Pasty white racist. You think she needs them to wear a little mustache for her to be able to orgasm?

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MIJB#19 05-31-2025 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3463851)
I don't understand why it was there in the first place, given one of the points of the Founders was to not have kings. But there's probably something historical I'm missing.

We've reached the point that the majority of monarchies in the world are more democratic than whatever Trump 2.0 is doing in the USA.

Atocep 05-31-2025 09:02 PM

Trump has reportedly been complaining to people around him about Elon and asking if they think the entire DOGE thing was bullshit.

Danny 05-31-2025 09:39 PM

Well it was. We knew their fallout would come at some point.

dubb93 05-31-2025 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3463946)
Well it was. We knew their fallout would come at some point.


Yea but this is like Jake Paul-Tyson when we all wanted Holyfield-Tyson.

Mota 06-01-2025 08:43 AM

Musk is so ketamined out right now. That one video from a few days ago when he's looking around in circles in the air while Trump is talking is pretty insane.
Between that and grandpa Trump's all-caps rants at 2am every night, MAGA is getting what they voted for. But the scariest thing is that his approval rating is increasing.

flere-imsaho 06-01-2025 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3463942)
Trump has reportedly been complaining to people around him about Elon and asking if they think the entire DOGE thing was bullshit.


I'm still hoping for the all-out GOP civil war between the techbro/toxic masculinity wing and the racist/fundamentalist wing.

PilotMan 06-01-2025 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mota (Post 3463959)
Musk is so ketamined out right now. That one video from a few days ago when he's looking around in circles in the air while Trump is talking is pretty insane.
Between that and grandpa Trump's all-caps rants at 2am every night, MAGA is getting what they voted for. But the scariest thing is that his approval rating is increasing.



it's increasing because it looks like stuff is getting done via executive orders and bypassing congress on just about everything. It looks like he's effective, and it's been so long, like the 90s, since congress actually worked the way it's supposed to, that people are excited just seeing literally anything get done. People are willing to embrace an authoritarian leader if he does this, and it either supports their cause, or isn't hurting them personally. So he's got a long runway. They can attack dissent as traitorous, and keep fanning that flame. It's straight from the playbook. It's not that people love him personally.

If Biden had gone with the same ferocity he would have seen a massive rise in popularity as well.

JPhillips 06-01-2025 11:36 AM

I'm not so sure. Dems are largly staying silent where the GOP is constantly messaging.

bronconick 06-01-2025 09:34 PM

Oh, they're loudly begging for money with their thumbs up their ass.

RainMaker 06-01-2025 09:42 PM

They should unironically disband the party.

Lathum 06-02-2025 07:33 AM

Joni Ernst with the most non apologetic apology I have ever heard.

What a disgrace

RainMaker 06-03-2025 11:43 AM

jfc

Ben E Lou 06-03-2025 01:43 PM

LOL. Elon flips on the “big beautiful bill.”

Danny 06-03-2025 02:18 PM

Musk vs Trump fox news headline. The fight is just starting.

Lathum 06-03-2025 04:18 PM

reuters.com

RainMaker 06-03-2025 05:16 PM

If my businesses relied entirely on the US government to be profitable, I would probably not insult the man who controls the purse strings.

Danny 06-03-2025 05:21 PM

Well he also went against the majority of his customer base in all of his support of Trump in the first place. He aeems likely to alienate pretty much everyone before long.

RainMaker 06-03-2025 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3464093)
Well he also went against the majority of his customer base in all of his support of Trump in the first place. He aeems likely to alienate pretty much everyone before long.


His companies were cooked even before the Trump stuff. I mean this didn't help but he was always banking on government handouts for SpaceX, Tesla, and whatever his shitty AI grift is now.

Atocep 06-04-2025 05:36 PM

Linda McMahon testimony to congress is embarrassing. She failed simple math when it came to budget numbers, isn't familiar with Ruby Bridges or the Tulsa massacre, and said she wanted Harvard and other schools to eliminate DEI while at the same time saying they want more viewpoint diversity on staff, which would be DEI.


Florida weatherman are also telling their viewers that hurricane projections are going to be inaccurate this season and moving forward due to federal cuts. Far less balloons are going up, staffing levels are down as much as 40%, and they're not sure data collection flights for active hurricanes is going to be possible.

flere-imsaho 06-05-2025 07:44 AM

I guess people got tired of 4 years of competent government.

NobodyHere 06-05-2025 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3464150)
I guess people got tired of 4 years of competent government.


When was this mythical 4 years?

cuervo72 06-05-2025 08:39 AM

/checks hidden post

Yeah, gonna stick with that decision.

flere-imsaho 06-05-2025 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3464151)
When was this mythical 4 years?


"Competent" being a relative term, of course.

Ghost Econ 06-05-2025 09:56 AM

A 22 year old grocery stocker is heading US terror defense.

Edward64 06-05-2025 12:02 PM

Love it.

Won't make it 100% right for how he screwed up the execution of Doge but it'll go a long way if he is able to stop the $2.5T addition to our debt and rally GOP senators and make the budget deficit neutral. Good thing I don't own any Tesla stock though.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/05/trum...l-nasa-ev.html
Quote:

President Donald Trump said Elon Musk opposes his tax bill because the Tesla CEO is “upset” about the elimination of EV credits and Trump withdrawing his pick to run NASA.

“I’m very disappointed in Elon. I’ve helped Elon a lot,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

“Whatever,” replied Musk, who had wanted fellow billionaire tech executive Jared Isaacman to run the space agency.

flere-imsaho 06-05-2025 12:28 PM

If Musk and other billionaires and their companies paid the same marginal tax rate (or even half) paid by, like, 80% of Americans, we likely wouldn't even have a budget deficit.

Ksyrup 06-05-2025 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464154)
A 22 year old grocery stocker is heading US terror defense.


That sentence isn't as scary as the guy's picture.

GrantDawg 06-05-2025 01:36 PM

Trump and Musk ending badly is not a surprise to anybody. The only surprise to me is it took this long.

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Edward64 06-05-2025 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3464164)
Love it.

Won't make it 100% right for how he screwed up the execution of Doge but it'll go a long way if he is able to stop the $2.5T addition to our debt and rally GOP senators and make the budget deficit neutral. Good thing I don't own any Tesla stock though.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/05/trum...l-nasa-ev.html


Even more goodness.

I'm not sure who holds the better hand, I'm going to assume Trump who can hurt Musk's businesses a lot, but then does Musk care about $100B here or there? This will be fascinating as it plays out real-time.

Quote:

“Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate,” Musk said. He added: “Such ingratitude.”

EDIT:

... and even more! Can't wait for the vote counts

Quote:

Billionaire Elon Musk seemed to suggest support of a third political party as he escalated a growing fight with President Trump that boiled over Thursday.

“Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle,” Musk wrote in a post on social platform X to his more than 200 million followers on the site, which he owns.

Musk attached a survey to his post that allowed users to vote “yes” or “no” on the idea of a third political party.

GrantDawg 06-05-2025 02:16 PM

Musk just played the Epstein card.

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Edward64 06-05-2025 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464179)
Musk just played the Epstein card.

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From the other thread about rich & famous that broke immigration laws, I think Musk just might have moved ahead of Harry.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3459797)
I'm good with both Melania and Musk.

But dealing in the "real" world and the limitations of that, Harry get my vote.


... and Tesla down -16% right now.

Atocep 06-05-2025 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464179)
Musk just played the Epstein card.

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In 24 hours this went from a pillow fight to exactly what everyone was anticipating.

flere-imsaho 06-05-2025 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464179)
Musk just played the Epstein card.


:popcorn:

And this, kids, is what happens when people have too much money, and no concept of what hard work looks like.

bhlloy 06-05-2025 02:57 PM

In the divorce, do we get to keep all the white South Africans?

Kodos 06-05-2025 03:02 PM

:popcorn: :D

Lathum 06-05-2025 03:12 PM


RainMaker 06-05-2025 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464174)
Trump and Musk ending badly is not a surprise to anybody. The only surprise to me is it took this long.


I figured they would part ways but I really didn't think it would go this bad considering how much they need each other.

RainMaker 06-05-2025 03:15 PM

Tesla stock down 15%. It's a good thing SpaceX isn't publically traded because that company might go kaput.

Coffee Warlord 06-05-2025 03:22 PM

So can people own Teslas without them being firebombed again?

Ghost Econ 06-05-2025 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464190)
I figured they would part ways but I really didn't think it would go this bad considering how much they need each other.


I figure it can/will go so much worse. This is like 1% as bad as I figured it would go.

Ghost Econ 06-05-2025 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 3464194)
So can people own Teslas without them being firebombed again?


I've been told the government will give every immigrant a Tesla if they agree to self deport.

cuervo72 06-05-2025 03:34 PM

Probably inevitable; JD was their guy the whole time anyway.

dubb93 06-05-2025 03:38 PM

Hopefully this ends with Elon being deported.

Atocep 06-05-2025 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 3464201)
Hopefully this ends with Elon being deported.


MAGA is calling for it now.

Atocep 06-05-2025 04:18 PM

DOLA

This might be the best day of Steve Bannon's life.

GrantDawg 06-05-2025 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464190)
I figured they would part ways but I really didn't think it would go this bad considering how much they need each other.



I was sure it would be ugly. Big Egos. I had a feeling they eventually would a hit conflict and clash spectacularly.

Ksyrup 06-05-2025 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 3464194)
So can people own Teslas without them being firebombed again?


In US Teslas firebomb themselves.

GrantDawg 06-05-2025 04:43 PM

This thing blew up faster than a Cybertruck.

Ksyrup 06-05-2025 04:48 PM

It certainly got as ugly as one!

RainMaker 06-05-2025 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 3464201)
Hopefully this ends with Elon being deported.


Who will Kamala campaign with in 2028?

Kodos 06-05-2025 04:57 PM

Does this mean Trump is NOT buying a Tesla?!?

Passacaglia 06-05-2025 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464190)
I figured they would part ways but I really didn't think it would go this bad considering how much they need each other.


I don't see how Trump needs Elon.

RainMaker 06-05-2025 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3464215)
I don't see how Trump needs Elon.


Besides money, he controls one of the largest social media sites in the world and can influence what people can and can't see.

Ghost Econ 06-05-2025 05:54 PM

I remember when the reason women couldn't be CEOs or President was because they were too emotional.

It's insane these loser clowns are thought of as the models of masculinity.

PilotMan 06-05-2025 06:26 PM

It's all so pathetic.

flere-imsaho 06-05-2025 06:50 PM

Trump nationalizes SpaceX and Twitter by EO in 3...2...1...

dubb93 06-05-2025 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3464215)
I don't see how Trump needs Elon.


Honestly he doesn’t need him anymore, but it’s hard to say how much Elon influenced the election in his favor. He not only turned the dude bro internet crowd from blue to Trump he also, as you said, had a pretty big influence on what people saw. At this point though Trump is either done being elected or ending elections so Elon isn’t nearly as necessary and he probably felt that before he decided to do all this.

thesloppy 06-05-2025 09:49 PM

I REALLY want to know more about that black eye now. Like at the exact moment this entire shitshow fell apart in epic fashion, Elon's kid just happened to pop him in the face?

BishopMVP 06-06-2025 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464154)
A 22 year old grocery stocker is heading US terror defense.

I hate all this but the way they phrase it all is kind of funny to me
Quote:

The inexperienced 22-year-old reportedly tasked by Donald Trump with tackling U.S. extremism was working as a neighborhood gardener just five years ago and in a grocery store as recently as August 2023, the Daily Beast can reveal.
Having a 22 year old in charge of anything nationally is bad, but are we shaming him for landscaping at 17 or working part time in a grocery store during college?

Hammer 06-06-2025 01:39 AM

Had to drop by and read the comments. Pretty much as expected.

Your debt payments are now more expensive than your defense budget. Every year the country is spending more than it makes, and that trend is accelerating. Judging by the thread educated people in the U.S. are not aware how serious this problem is or where it leads?

BishopMVP 06-06-2025 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 3464235)
Had to drop by and read the comments. Pretty much as expected.

Your debt payments are now more expensive than your defense budget. Every year the country is spending more than it makes, and that trend is accelerating. Judging by the thread educated people in the U.S. are not aware how serious this problem is or where it leads?

I'm glad you think we're educated but what are you talking about dude? Are you not part of this country with it's debt payments and defense budget, or did you retire at 49 off bitcoin in a different country?

Edward64 06-06-2025 04:32 AM

Interesting "out" that CBO handed Trump on the (currently) $2.4T budget deficit over 10 years ... and the $2.5T tariff revenue.

I hope it's not good enough to sway the Senate Republicans against the bill; but probably changes the dynamics and provides an easy out for some.

Access to this page has been denied
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President Trump’s tariffs will take a major bite out of U.S. deficit levels, reducing them by $2.5 trillion over the next decade and shrinking the size of the U.S. economy, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found in a Wednesday analysis.

The deficit reduction is almost exactly the same size as the deficit addition that would result from the GOP’s “big, beautiful bill.” The CBO found that the bill would add $2.4 trillion to deficits through 2034, according to a separate analysis released Wednesday.

The tariffs measured by the CBO are those implemented from Jan. 6 to May 13, which includes the trade truce with China announced May 12.

The tariff assumptions below. I can see the 10% baseline tariff surviving but think everything else is in play for the next 3.5 years. And depending on who wins in 2028, fair chance that many of them will go away or be significantly reduced.

Quote:

The CBO included in its calculation a menu of tariffs that Trump has announced since taking office:

a 30 percent tariff on imports from China and Hong Kong;
25 percent tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico that started March 7; 25 percent tariffs on steel and aluminum from March 12;
25 percent tariffs on most automobile imports starting April 3;
10 percent tariff on imports from most countries that began April 5; and
25 percent tariff on imports of most auto parts, as of May 3.


Also quoted in article if only 10% was kept. Different group, different assumptions etc.

Quote:

The Tax Foundation estimated in April that a 10 percent universal tariff similar to the one imposed by the White House would raise $2.2 trillion over the 2025-to-2034 budget window.

Edward64 06-06-2025 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 3464235)
Judging by the thread educated people in the U.S. are not aware how serious this problem is or where it leads?


Unfortunately, I don't think there is enough people, GOP politicians (they're up this cycle) willing to fight to reduce the bleeding (e.g. budget deficit) and overall debt at this time. Defense, Social Security, Medicare are the big ones and cutting those will get politicians fired. But I sure hope I'm wrong.

Unlikely it will succeed but love to see Musk fund a viable third party and build momentum on this.

NobodyHere 06-06-2025 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 3464235)
Had to drop by and read the comments. Pretty much as expected.

Your debt payments are now more expensive than your defense budget. Every year the country is spending more than it makes, and that trend is accelerating. Judging by the thread educated people in the U.S. are not aware how serious this problem is or where it leads?


We've been running deficits for decades. Why stop now?

dubb93 06-06-2025 07:16 AM

It’s hard to care about the deficit when neither political party does. You don’t float tax cuts for the rich and take the high ground on the deficit just because you took away government insurance from some poor people. If you want to take a bite out of the deficit you have to tax rich people and businesses but that going to happen anytime soon.

sovereignstar v2 06-06-2025 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 3464236)
I'm glad you think we're educated but what are you talking about dude? Are you not part of this country with it's debt payments and defense budget, or did you retire at 49 off bitcoin in a different country?


bitcoin bro is over in the UK


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