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RainMaker 02-04-2025 03:24 PM

The opposition party.


Danny 02-04-2025 03:32 PM

So freaking stupid. Musk should be the #1 attack target. Unlike Trump, he is not beloved and largely disliked by even many republicans. Driving a wedge would help too

GrantDawg 02-04-2025 03:56 PM

2.2 billion gallons of water flowed out of California reservoirs because of Trump’s order to open dams | CNN

RainMaker 02-04-2025 04:40 PM

‘Things Are Going to Get Intense:’ How a Musk Ally Plans to Push AI on the Government

Ghost Econ 02-04-2025 04:50 PM

I wonder if Jon would be conflicted?

Trump says he's given advisers instructions for Iran to be 'obliterated' if it assassinates him | AP News

JPhillips 02-04-2025 04:54 PM

Amazing that if Biden had nominated Gabbard or Kennedy not a single GOPer would have voted to confirm them and now not a single GOPer will vote against them.

cuervo72 02-04-2025 04:59 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...iNSjBExPPHG8og

Guess the Palestinians should get used to the idea of El Salvador?

JPhillips 02-04-2025 05:30 PM

Elon's taking down public data now. The census community survey is no longer accessible.

Sweed 02-04-2025 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3456506)
Laughable sentiment since you are railing against a community with an attempted suicide rate of close to 40%. But I guess you are OK with a bunch of dead trans kids as long as the .000000000001% of these instances where they invade a womans sport doesn't happen.


And more confirmation of the far left trying to spread guilt and put someone on the defensive that doesn't tow their line. Sorry, it doesn't work with me.

Using your thought process and reasoning, you must be railing against all women? But then there are your words, "invade a woman's sport", that sounds harsh. Freudian slip? Just me trying your tactic of shaming. It makes me feel slimy, but how can you blame me? It's been working so well for the far left for awhile now. Just not on me.

Me? I'm not railing against anyone, rather I'm speaking up and supporting girls that have been accused of being transphobe because they have the audacity to want to have only girls on a girls team. Girls on a girl's team, what a concept :confused: . And, oh my god, some privacy that includes a female only locker room. I know, the nerve of these girls.

The answer for the health of trans kids is not giving them "20 spots" (using Rainmakers number) on a girl's team. The answer is to treat them like anybody else, be it in a classroom, going out for sports, walking down the street, or later in life while working their job.

Nobody is stopping any trans kid from going out for sports. Even in this small town area of Iowa I see two trans adults (males living as females) and both in their day would have kicked my ass on any sports field or court. Being trans doesn't mean they can't compete. It means like anyone else they will have the skills to compete, or they won't. They make the team, or they don't, and they do that on a level playing field.

RainMaker 02-04-2025 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweed (Post 3456809)
The answer for the health of trans kids is not giving them "20 spots" (using Rainmakers number) on a girl's team.


That's not what I was saying. I was saying this is such an infrequent thing in sports that it's not an issue. There are less than 10 transgender athletes participating out of the 520,000 NCAA athletes. So less than .00002%. And from what I can find, none of these athletes are winning anything or dramatically altering any of the sports.

I didn't accuse you of being a transphobe. Just find it odd how passionate some people have gotten over who came in 11th at a D2 cross country meet at a school no one has heard of. You'd thing attendance would be higher at these events.

Sweed 02-04-2025 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3456513)
Eh, new to gender identity politics around here? No whining. Join the club.

I don't know exactly your stance on is on transgenders in sports, ]


Pilotman sums up how I feel about transgender in sports in the quoted post. I'd bold the relevant text, but that would mean the whole post would be bolded. Well, other than I'd say I'm middle of the road, but leaning leftish due to maga:)

In Iowa most of my old friends think I'm too far left to ever save.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3456580)
I'm on the left, I believe in protecting marginalized groups and the rights of the lgbtq+ to exist and be supported. I also think that if that if you've made a choice to transition for the betterment of your own life that you shouldn't participate in sports beyond the rec level, period. We all have to make compromises in life. Which one of these things is more important to you personally. It's not stepping on rights, it's not taking away support, it's saying that you have the consciousness about it to do the right thing for others, the same as you're asking of them.



Very well said.

Sweed 02-04-2025 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3456810)
That's not what I was saying. I was saying this is such an infrequent thing in sports that it's not an issue. There are less than 10 transgender athletes participating out of the 520,000 NCAA athletes. So less than .00002%. And from what I can find, none of these athletes are winning anything or dramatically altering any of the sports.

I didn't accuse you of being a transphobe. Just find it odd how passionate some people have gotten over who came in 11th at a D2 cross country meet at a school no one has heard of. You'd thing attendance would be higher at these events.


I didn't think you accused me of anything. Sorry if anything I quoted or said gave that impression.

You had used the number 20 and I used only in the way it was worded in my post. IE 20 spots (and really 50 or 100 spots) isn't going to do anything towards helping trans kids.

Does the issue involve a lot of women? No. But to answer your question from my perspective.. How does the girl that didn't get to run in the meet, get an at bat, shoot a three, etc. etc. at all feel because she was the last one cut from the team?

Pioltman, IMHO, is spot on in his post.

RainMaker 02-04-2025 06:52 PM

I didn't say anyone deserved spots one way or the other. Just saying less than 10 athletes out of 520,000 seems pretty inconsequential and not something worthy of congressional inquiries and executive orders. Hopefully folks invested in this are this passionate about other issues in women's sports too.

GrantDawg 02-04-2025 06:54 PM

A group of Democratic congressional leaders went to the Treasury Department demanding entry to be allowed oversight for their constituency. Now, there is a huge crowd of Anti-Musk protestors outside the Treasury building.

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Edward64 02-04-2025 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweed (Post 3456811)
Well, other than I'd say I'm middle of the road, but leaning leftish due to maga:)

In Iowa most of my old friends think I'm too far left to ever save.


Hah, you should have them sign up to FOFC and then they’ll really understand the far left and MAGA. Would be interesting debates & arguments !!

Edward64 02-04-2025 07:03 PM

Interesting, don’t think anyone thought of this option …

Trump says Palestinians should leave Gaza permanently and US will ‘take over’ strip | CNN Politics
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President Donald Trump said Tuesday that the US “will take over” the Gaza Strip, after saying earlier that he doesn’t think there is a permanent future for Palestinians in Gaza.

“The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too,” Trump said during a joint press conference alongside his Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu. “We’ll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings.”

Asked whether he was willing to send US troops to fill a security vacuum in Gaza, Trump did not rule it out.

“As far as Gaza is concerned, we’ll do what is necessary. If it’s necessary, we’ll do that. We’re going to take over that piece that we’re going to develop it,” he said.

JPhillips 02-04-2025 07:20 PM

Trump and Elon are telling the GSA to terminate leases for every federal building in the country.

CrimsonFox 02-04-2025 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3456817)


Lmao well good luck with all those bombs then. Actually that might cause pal and isr to unite...against us

SirFozzie 02-04-2025 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3456817)


But tell us again how Trump will be better for Palestinians then Biden/Harris....

edit: Nah, CrimsonFox, Israel loves this, means their settlers can force out Palestinians and they don't have to worry about a cross-border attack again.. if they do, they're attacking the US not just Israel

Edward64 02-04-2025 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3456819)
Lmao well good luck with all those bombs then. Actually that might cause pal and isr to unite...against us


If “isr” is Israel, this is probably Bibi’s idea and most of Israel would be glad to hand over Gaza security duties to the US.

It’s crazy and I remember the Lebanon Marine barracks bombing.

Atocep 02-04-2025 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3456820)
But tell us again how Trump will be better for Palestinians then Biden/Harris....

edit: Nah, CrimsonFox, Israel loves this, means their settlers can force out Palestinians and they don't have to worry about a cross-border attack again.. if they do, they're attacking Trump's hotel not just Israel


Fixed

Edward64 02-04-2025 07:48 PM

Ah, I get it now … our 51st state.

Atocep 02-04-2025 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456818)
Trump and Elon are telling the GSA to terminate leases for every federal building in the country.


The office space is going to end up being a billionaire handout. I'll be shocked if Tesla and Space X don't end up with some new offices out of this.

Ghost Econ 02-04-2025 07:57 PM

If only there was some book Trump could read that talked about people being forced from their home, the trials and tribulations they suffered trying to get back, and how they resettled their land.

We could call it Gulliver's Travels or something.

dubb93 02-04-2025 07:59 PM

It only took a few dudes wanting to be chicks to strip women of their basic human rights.

dubb93 02-04-2025 08:01 PM

If we are talking women’s rights in the USA in 2025, amateur athletics is possibly the last fucking thing we should be focused on. Get fucking real. Just admit you are full blown MAGA if that is what you are focused on.

RainMaker 02-04-2025 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3456820)
But tell us again how Trump will be better for Palestinians then Biden/Harris....

edit: Nah, CrimsonFox, Israel loves this, means their settlers can force out Palestinians and they don't have to worry about a cross-border attack again.. if they do, they're attacking the US not just Israel


It's literally the plan Biden proposed. Tell us again how you didn't follow any news and just blindly supported your team doing genocide.

RainMaker 02-04-2025 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456818)
Trump and Elon are telling the GSA to terminate leases for every federal building in the country.


This feels way more like Musk than Trump. I just can't see Trump tanking the commercial real estate market. That's sort of his thing and base of supporters.

Edward64 02-04-2025 08:08 PM

AI is great

Ryche 02-04-2025 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456805)
Elon's taking down public data now. The census community survey is no longer accessible.


No, it's available. The Census Bureau's FTP site has been down since Friday but most of the data is still accessible.

Ryche 02-04-2025 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3456817)


No one sane anyway.

SirFozzie 02-04-2025 08:09 PM

You're off in your own reality dude.

Biden/Harris: Tries (admittedly failed due to Israeli instringence) to get aid into Gaza, stops the flow of some weapons, supports rights of Palestinians to self govern (as long as Hamas isn't around), literally handholds both sides through multiple rounds of peace talks.

Trump: "Those Palestinians? Fuck em. It's US territory now.

You are actively delusional.

NobodyHere 02-04-2025 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456818)
Trump and Elon are telling the GSA to terminate leases for every federal building in the country.


Isn't this what Musk did at Twitter/X to get lower rent rates?

RainMaker 02-04-2025 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3456833)
You're off in your own reality dude.

Biden/Harris: Tries (admittedly failed due to Israeli instringence) to get aid into Gaza, stops the flow of some weapons, supports rights of Palestinians to self govern (as long as Hamas isn't around), literally handholds both sides through multiple rounds of peace talks.

Trump: "Those Palestinians? Fuck em. It's US territory now.

You are actively delusional.


It's literally Biden's plan. He just couldn't convince Egypt to do it so Bibi went ahead a killed a few hundred thousand with our support.

US in talks with countries including Israel and Egypt to allow safe passage of Americans and other civilians out of Gaza | CNN Politics

Trump revives Biden's failed proposal to remove Palestinians from Gaza

Like I said, all you partisan hacks would come out of the woodwork against this stuff you supported once Trump took over. Just pathetic cowardly behavior.

SirFozzie 02-04-2025 08:15 PM

Yeah, I'm done with you on this. You are actively fucking delusional. You have your "hate modlibs" to the point you have invented shit out of whole cloth.

SirFozzie 02-04-2025 08:17 PM

To steer this discussion away from the I/P conflict:

MSN

Great idea. Has a negative 5000% chance of ever becoming law. (would cap Credit card rates at 10% for five years)

RainMaker 02-04-2025 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3456836)
Yeah, I'm done with you on this. You are actively fucking delusional. You have your "hate modlibs" to the point you have invented shit out of whole cloth.


I'd be done too if I looked this fucking stupid. Litrally complaining about something you supported a month ago.

RainMaker 02-04-2025 08:23 PM

USPS just banned parcels from China. Goodbye Temu, Shein and others. American companies just couldn't compete.

Suspension of Inbound Parcels from China and Hong Kong - Newsroom - About.usps.com

JPhillips 02-04-2025 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3456838)
I'd be done too if I looked this fucking stupid. Litrally complaining about something you supported a month ago.


You're full of shit on this. From the article you linked:

Quote:

The official with knowledge of the negotiations told CNN’s Matthew Chance Wednesday that under the proposal being discussed, all US citizens would be permitted to pass through the Rafah border crossing if they present their US passports, while the movement of other Palestinian civilians would be limited to 2,000 people a day.

There's a hell of a difference between voluntary and mandatory and 2000 a day and everybody.

NobodyHere 02-04-2025 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3456835)
It's literally Biden's plan. He just couldn't convince Egypt to do it so Bibi went ahead a killed a few hundred thousand with our support.

US in talks with countries including Israel and Egypt to allow safe passage of Americans and other civilians out of Gaza | CNN Politics

Trump revives Biden's failed proposal to remove Palestinians from Gaza

Like I said, all you partisan hacks would come out of the woodwork against this stuff you supported once Trump took over. Just pathetic cowardly behavior.


So you think allowing Palestinians to freely cross the border into Egypt (Bidens Plan) is the same as forcibly uprooting Palestinians and never allowing them to return? (Trumps plan)

dubb93 02-04-2025 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3456841)
So you think allowing Palestinians to freely cross the border into Egypt (Bidens Plan) is the same as forcibly uprooting Palestinians and never allowing them to return? (Trumps plan)


Yes he does. He has made that clear regardless of what he says next.

Edward64 02-04-2025 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3456841)
So you think allowing Palestinians to freely cross the border into Egypt (Bidens Plan) is the same as forcibly uprooting Palestinians and never allowing them to return? (Trumps plan)


Don't forget US troops on the ground to secure Gaza (and the Trump hotel) after the Gazans are kicked out.

RainMaker 02-04-2025 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456840)
You're full of shit on this. From the article you linked:

There's a hell of a difference between voluntary and mandatory and 2000 a day and everybody.


It's not voluntary if the other option is death.

And yes, they wanted to ethnically cleanse 2000 people a day. I'm sure whoever is left alive in Gaza now won't be simultaneously entering Egypt under Trump's plan, either. There will be logistics too.

Just utter moral cowardice for you all to do a 180 on this the minute Trump took office. I'd say I'm surprised but I told you all last year you'd do it and you did.

RainMaker 02-04-2025 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3456841)
So you think allowing Palestinians to freely cross the border into Egypt (Bidens Plan) is the same as forcibly uprooting Palestinians and never allowing them to return? (Trumps plan)


Leave your home or die is forcibly uprooting people. Good lord you people are sick. Even after Biden fucked you over you still can't give him up.

dubb93 02-04-2025 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3456845)
Leave your home or die is forcibly uprooting people. Good lord you people are sick. Even after Biden fucked you over you still can't give him up.


Yes. Remember when the Trump Trains come through. Anyone offering you safe passage before is the real enemy.

Atocep 02-04-2025 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3456821)
If “isr” is Israel, this is probably Bibi’s idea and most of Israel would be glad to hand over Gaza security duties to the US.

It’s crazy and I remember the Lebanon Marine barracks bombing.


Bibi probably can't believe he found someone gullible enough to take on the bad optics of forcing people out and spending the money to take that area over. It's the perfect deal for Israel. They get everything they want without having to lift a finger or look like the bad guys.

CrimsonFox 02-05-2025 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3456823)
Ah, I get it now … our 51st state.


wait....GAZA will be our 51st state? BAHAHAHA

Edward64 02-05-2025 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3456847)
Bibi probably can't believe he found someone gullible enough to take on the bad optics of forcing people out and spending the money to take that area over. It's the perfect deal for Israel. They get everything they want without having to lift a finger or look like the bad guys.


Actually, did more googling. I don't think the idea came from Bibi, it came from Jared back in Mar 2024

Jared Kushner says Gaza’s ‘waterfront property could be very valuable’ | Jared Kushner | The Guardian
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Jared Kushner has praised the “very valuable” potential of Gaza’s “waterfront property” and suggested Israel should remove civilians while it “cleans up” the strip.
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“Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods,” Kushner told his interviewer, the faculty chair of the Middle East Initiative, Prof Tarek Masoud. Kushner also lamented “all the money” that had gone into the territory’s tunnel network and munitions instead of education and innovation.
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Kushner also said he thinks Israel should move civilians from Gaza to the Negev desert in southern Israel.


With that said, I'm guessing some level of relocation to somewhere will happen. It will be interesting to see if/how Trump can make it work (e.g. what deal will he cut with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan etc.). And it goes without saying, lower odds that ceasefire Phase 2 will happen now.

GrantDawg 02-05-2025 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3456838)
I'd be done too if I looked this fucking stupid. Litrally complaining about something you supported a month ago.

There is only one person that looks stupid in this, and you can see him if you look in the mirror.

Edward64 02-05-2025 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3456862)
There is only one person that looks stupid in this, and you can see him if you look in the mirror.


This is probably how it is with Israel-Hamas negotiations. Two different worlds, different realities, interpretations etc.


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