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GrantDawg 02-02-2025 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3456441)
CBC article on stop buying red-state liquor

Also, the fetanyl link is so he can impose the tariffs in the name of "national security", instead of having Congress do it. He needs money to fund everything, so is trying to use the US bully power to generate funds. Whether it will work or not.. last time they tried this (with China and corn), 92% of the money they generated through tariffs went to bail oout the farmers who were affected.

It is a recessive tax, which is why he loves it. He will claim the other country pays the tax all he wants, this is a sales tax paid by Americans on all imported goods. Most of those goods are on lower/cheaper end of the price scale, so it is a tax that will hit the lowest incomes the hardest. They have been wanting a National Sales Tax forever, but now they have figured out a way to back door it. All to fund huge tax cuts for the 1%.

JPhillips 02-02-2025 08:39 AM

Trump:

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WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!). BUT WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID.

Not a strong message, IMO.

Ksyrup 02-02-2025 08:51 AM

But it's in all caps! And if you disagree, then you're clearly not a patriot!

Ksyrup 02-02-2025 08:52 AM

Also, how quickly he pivoted from "there are no downsides to a tariff" to "there will be some pain!"

Jas_lov 02-02-2025 09:08 AM

I thought they might try the old "don't believe your eyes and ears" but looks like they're going with 'it's now patriotic to pay higher prices."

Ghost Econ 02-02-2025 09:36 AM

Arrested Development predicted this

It’s one banana, Michael, how much could it cost? 10 dollars?

Mota 02-02-2025 09:49 AM

Starting on Tuesday, there won't be any American liquor or wine in Ontario shelves. They're being pulled.

Lathum 02-02-2025 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456424)
I've got a high school friend, a big Trump supporter, who is pissed because the tariffs are potentially going to ruin his employer. He's really pissed at Trump today. Now that may not last, but people can be persuaded by what happens.

Here is one of a few posts:


And if history is any indicator he will continue to support Trump and this version of the GOP because some trans kid in Idaho wants to play volleyball...

Lathum 02-02-2025 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mota (Post 3456465)
Starting on Tuesday, there won't be any American liquor or wine in Ontario shelves. They're being pulled.


One billion in sales a year, and that is just one product.

Sweed 02-02-2025 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3456466)
And if history is any indicator he will continue to support Trump and this version of the GOP because some trans kid in Idaho wants to play volleyball...


That people continue to discount folks caring about their daughters having a level playing field is mind boggling to me. You are right that it costs the left votes. Here's a tidbit of information for you, it always will. And when you condescend to those voters from "your moral high ground" with name calling and trying to guilt them for something they shouldn't feel guilty about you will lose more votes.

Lathum 02-02-2025 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweed (Post 3456469)
That people continue to discount folks caring about their daughters having a level playing field is mind boggling to me. You are right that it costs the left votes. Here's a tidbit of information for you, it always will. And when you condescend to those voters from "your moral high ground" with name calling and trying to guilt them for something they shouldn't feel guilty about you will lose more votes.


I want kids to have a level playing field, but if you can't see it has massively been blown out of proportion you are part of the problem. Not to mention it has also been use to completely demonize and vilify a community of maybe the most vulnerable kids in society.

Talking about moral high ground is pretty rich. How man trans kids committed suicide because one party feels icky about them? I effing guarantee it is more than participated in some swim meet in New Mexico. So take your moral high ground and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

cuervo72 02-02-2025 11:01 AM

“We will always hate trans people and how dare you say we should feel guilty about it.”

kingfc22 02-02-2025 11:20 AM

GOP is excellent at taking an issue impacting an extremely tiny amount of people, like transgender athletes, and turning it into a some sort of boogeyman that is around every corner and in every small town across America.

cuervo72 02-02-2025 11:30 AM

@bubbaprog.lol on Bluesky

Elon going through the Treasury database figuring out what not to pay with…Mike Flynn.

JPhillips 02-02-2025 11:34 AM

Dems should be able to make hay out of Elon stealing access to every American's Social Security number and tax returns, but instead they went home for the weekend.

kingfc22 02-02-2025 11:38 AM

Trump tariffs Canada: Ottawa Senators fans boo U.S. anthem

Four more years of actively trying to grow hatred towards the US.

Should do wonders for that make America great strategy.

GrantDawg 02-02-2025 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3456477)
Trump tariffs Canada: Ottawa Senators fans boo U.S. anthem

Four more years of actively trying to grow hatred towards the US.

Should do wonders for that make America great strategy.

My biggest fear, and this is beginning to be not so much a tinfoil hat thing, that this is all a pretext for active invasion of the whole Northern Hemisphere. Tank the economy, blame it on Canada and Mexico, and invaded to take resources, subjugate them. Taking Greenland is strategic to prevent European interdiction. Invading Panama to take back the canal to control all trade. "Manifest Destiny"

Edward64 02-02-2025 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3456481)
My biggest fear, and this is beginning to be not so much a tinfoil hat thing, that this is all a pretext for active invasion of the whole Northern Hemisphere. Tank the economy, blame it on Canada and Mexico, and invaded to take resources, subjugate them. Taking Greenland is strategic to prevent European interdiction. Invading Panama to take back the canal to control all trade. "Manifest Destiny"


No way on Canada. I can see some unilateral action against Mexico narco gangs but not an invasion to conquer.

I would be more worried if I was Panama and Cuba as a wildcard (e.g. Florida Cubans voters & Rubio)

PilotMan 02-02-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3456481)
My biggest fear, and this is beginning to be not so much a tinfoil hat thing, that this is all a pretext for active invasion of the whole Northern Hemisphere. Tank the economy, blame it on Canada and Mexico, and invaded to take resources, subjugate them. Taking Greenland is strategic to prevent European interdiction. Invading Panama to take back the canal to control all trade. "Manifest Destiny"



Our kids get drafted.



The Mrs' biggest fear. I won't feed into it, but you can draw some lines, connect some dots to where it points more towards it as reality. Still, I refuse to give in to that fear just yet. I do feel like we're still totally fucked. That the representative democracy that we had is over.

Flasch186 02-02-2025 01:19 PM

So glad I got the family dual citizenship to Austria of all places. The irony in that is not lost on me.


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Ksyrup 02-02-2025 01:34 PM

I watched a clip of some young white male Rep a few weeks ago when Trump was making noise about Canada, Greenland and Panama Canal and he just had this weird look in his eyes as he talked about this being the modern Manifest Destiny. This is just the natural extension of all the Alpha Male BS the right has been spouting for years. Now it's the country as the Alpha Male bullying whomever it wants without caring who it hurts.

RainMaker 02-02-2025 02:06 PM

The Taliban ran our military out of Afghanistan. This country doesn't have the ability to take over others.

bhlloy 02-02-2025 02:14 PM

Ironically Trump has done an incredible job uniting the left and right in Canada and antagonizing people who probably would have been in power soon and natural allies for him.

And yeah, as bloody and insane and brutal as it would be, even the US doesn't have the military means to pacify a country with the size, population and modern military of Canada. Doesn't mean I have total confidence he wouldn't try, but I have to believe even this Congress would impeach if he tried to get into an offensive war that would cost millions of American lives.

RainMaker 02-02-2025 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456476)
Dems should be able to make hay out of Elon stealing access to every American's Social Security number and tax returns, but instead they went home for the weekend.


Hakeem Jeffries is at an AIPAC event asking for more money for Israel. That's the opposition party in 2025.

Flasch186 02-02-2025 02:28 PM

I’m seeing on my Facebook wall a lot of

“It’ll be ok, we have to have pain to get the deficit right”

And

“This is nothing new”

I think they’ll need to feel more pain before trying to figure out what happened.


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Sweed 02-02-2025 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3456471)
I want kids to have a level playing field, but if you can't see it has massively been blown out of proportion you are part of the problem. Not to mention it has also been use to completely demonize and vilify a community of maybe the most vulnerable kids in society.

Talking about moral high ground is pretty rich. How man trans kids committed suicide because one party feels icky about them? I effing guarantee it is more than participated in some swim meet in New Mexico. So take your moral high ground and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.


A girl's right to play sports with other girls is trivial to you and being blown out of proportion? I'd wager a lot of girls would disagree. Which would of course result in them being called names, trying to shame them into silence and compliance, when there's nothing to be ashamed of.


Obviously you don't want kids to have a level playing field as you want an exception for a group that is not prohibited from playing sports now. But it seems many with your view, not sure about you, are happy to label girls as anti-trans (got to heap that guilt on at every opportunity. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME) and having no empathy (not possible, it can only be hate) for trans kids because they'd like to keep their ability to compete on the level playing field you claim to want too. Girls, Mothers, Fathers, and many others that want girl's sport, for them, doesn't mean those folks have no empathy for anyone that is Trans. But yeah, thanks for trying to put guilt where it doesn't belong.

How about we treat human beings like human beings, including the girls?


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Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3456472)
“We will always hate trans people and how dare you say we should feel guilty about it.”


Yeah, hate is the only possible reason. :popcorn: Thank you for confirming my post. :)


I thought about writing another paragraph on how anti Trump/maga I am, but I knew that would be a waste of time. I've trespassed against the far left and nothing I can say will take me out of the unholy place I now inhabit in this world.

RainMaker 02-02-2025 03:17 PM

How often is that even happening? Like are there more than 20 instances of this taking place in the entire country?

It just seems like people way too interested in children's genitalia.

kingfc22 02-02-2025 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 3456495)
I’m seeing on my Facebook wall a lot of

“It’ll be ok, we have to have pain to get the deficit right”

And

“This is nothing new”

I think they’ll need to feel more pain before trying to figure out what happened.


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Nothing and I mean NOTHING will turn the MAGA/GOP crowd against Trump.

I don’t understand why people think something new will come up that will turn things around.

JonInMiddleGA 02-02-2025 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed (Post 3456496)
I've trespassed against the far left and nothing I can say will take me out of the unholy place I now inhabit in this world.


That's because that wing is completely batshit insane.

And it's getting to the point where they probably -- scratch that, almost certainly -- don't need to be left on the streets with the sane people.

cuervo72 02-02-2025 04:11 PM

Sports are trivial compared to a campaign which is trying to make it impossible to function as a trans person in the US, if not eliminate them altogether, yes.

cuervo72 02-02-2025 04:15 PM

https://translegislation.com/

These bills aren’t just about sports.

Edward64 02-02-2025 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3456482)
I would be more worried if I was Panama ...


Good call Panama.

Doesn't make it right but its best for Panama at this point in time.

Trump signs tariffs on top trade partners as he enacts ‘America First’ agenda | CNN Politics
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Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino said his country would not renew a 2017 memorandum of understanding to join China’s Belt and Road Initiative, suggesting the agreement could end early. He said Panama would seek to work with the US on new investments, including infrastructure projects.

Mulino reiterated on Sunday that the country’s sovereignty over the Panama Canal was not up for debate, saying that he addressed the United States’ concerns over China’s presence around the canal during talks with US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

Mulino also said Panamanian authorities are carrying out an audit on the Panama Ports Company, a firm linked to China that operates two ports around the canal. “We have to wait until that audit ends before we can reach our legal conclusions and act accordingly,” Mulino said.


Lathum 02-02-2025 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed (Post 3456496)

How about we treat human beings like human beings, including the girls?




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Laughable sentiment since you are railing against a community with an attempted suicide rate of close to 40%. But I guess you are OK with a bunch of dead trans kids as long as the .000000000001% of these instances where they invade a womans sport doesn't happen.

Lathum 02-02-2025 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3456504)
https://translegislation.com/

These bills aren’t just about sports.


They never were. Sports is just a way to create a boogey man for small minded people who can't see whats really happening.

Lathum 02-02-2025 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3456501)
Nothing and I mean NOTHING will turn the MAGA/GOP crowd against Trump.

I don’t understand why people think something new will come up that will turn things around.


I mentioned it earlier. People seem to think there is some magic line he is going to cross and that line doesn't exist. These people will always find an excuse because dear leader can not ever be wrong

Ghost Econ 02-02-2025 04:22 PM

It's like banning allowing people from entering any body of water because a few people got bit by sharks in the past decade.

Sure, this is a ridiculous analogy, but the percentages are the same.

Edward64 02-02-2025 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed (Post 3456496)
I've trespassed against the far left and nothing I can say will take me out of the unholy place I now inhabit in this world.

Eh, new to gender identity politics around here? No whining. Join the club.

I don't know exactly your stance on is on transgenders in sports, but see my (and Joe's stance) on it. Haven't kept up with it (did it pass?) but IMO a good compromise.

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3398096)
I like this compromise. I think Biden is saying in vast majority of sports, it doesn't matter if there is a transgender student participating in either sex. But in select & highly competitive ones, acknowledge there may need to be some restrictions set.

But his proposed rule is pretty vague (purposely so I think) and I'm sure there'll be challenges and fine-tuning.

Title IX: Biden proposes rule for transgender student athletes that allows for some restrictions, opposes categorical bans | CNN Politics

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The Biden administration proposed Thursday a new federal rule change that would allow for schools to enforce some restrictions on transgender student athletes, but opposes policies that “categorically” ban those students from participating on sports teams consistent with their gender.

“The proposed rule would establish that policies violate Title IX when they categorically ban transgender students from participating on sports teams consistent with their gender identity just because of who they are,” according to a public notice from the US Department of Education.

“The proposed rule also recognizes that in some instances, particularly in competitive high school and college athletic environments, some schools may adopt policies that limit transgender students’ participation,” it continued.
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“For older students, especially at the high school and college level, the Department expects that sex-related criteria that limit participation of some transgender students may be permitted, in some cases, when they enable the school to achieve an important educational objective, such as fairness in competition, and meet the proposed regulation’s other requirements,” according to a summary of the proposed rule.



CrimsonFox 02-02-2025 05:29 PM

oh no baby wet his pants, that's six more weeks of lying.

JPhillips 02-02-2025 06:56 PM

Trump says he's cutting off money to South Africa due to certain classes of people being treated badly. He's about two steps from advocating for a return to apartheid.

BYU 14 02-02-2025 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456527)
Trump says he's cutting off money to South Africa due to certain classes of people being treated badly. He's about two steps from advocating for a return to apartheid.


I'm sure Musk had absolutely nothing to do with this ;)

I promise, South Africa would never be on Trump's delusional radar otherwise.

RainMaker 02-02-2025 08:42 PM

So with markets set to tank tomorrow, how long till he drops the tariffs and says he fixed the problem?

Flasch186 02-02-2025 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3456533)
So with markets set to tank tomorrow, how long till he drops the tariffs and says he fixed the problem?


Actually I think the “pain” will be a badge of honor and the price we have to pay in order to make right the sins of the democrats.

That’ll be going on for a while then he’ll release the crimp and be the hero fixing the pain (that he created)

JPhillips 02-02-2025 09:02 PM

Crypto bloodbath going on now.

kingfc22 02-02-2025 10:47 PM

So much winning.

FAFO baby!

Edward64 02-03-2025 04:41 AM

Budget deficit is $1.8T out of $6.76T in spending (e.g. parents spending with their kid's credit cards). I do hope we get near to a balanced budget.

No doubt the cost cutting (and revenue increases) is going to hurt people, but USAID is, relatively speaking, low hanging fruit. The biggest funding is Ukraine, Israel, Jordan & Egypt. I'd think Israel will definitely get her funding. Jordan & Egypt if they accede to Trump & Bibi's demands. Ukraine ... up in the air. Most everyone else, probably going to lose out.

$40B here, $40B there. Soon we'll be talking about real money.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...aid-rcna190388
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Tech billionaire Elon Musk said Monday that he and President Donald Trump were in the process of shutting down the U.S. Agency for International Development, escalating their war on the federal bureaucracy and defying the constitutional power of Congress to determine how money is spent.
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Trump administration officials have discussed placing USAID under the authority of the State Department
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Its budget for the 2023 fiscal year was about $40 billion, according to a report last month from the Congressional Research Service. That’s a tiny fraction of the overall federal discretionary spending of $1.7 trillion.

GrantDawg 02-03-2025 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3456535)
Crypto bloodbath going on now.

Explain that one to me. Shouldn't Crypto be exploding? Isn't it supposed to be the hedge against the market?

Edward64 02-03-2025 06:36 AM

Very nice dig, Vladimir ...

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/03/puti...s-tariffs.html
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Russian President Vladimir Putin praised President Trump on Sunday, saying his second administration would “restore order” in Europe.

“I assure you: Trump, with his character, with his persistence, he will restore order there quite quickly. And all of them, you will see — it will happen quickly, soon — they will all stand at the feet of the master and will wag their tails a little. Everything will fall into place,” Putin told pro-Kremlin journalist Pavel Zarubin
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Criticising his European counterparts on Sunday, Putin said European leaders on the continent lacked conviction in their beliefs.

All Zelensky has to do is tell Trump that he has the opportunity to be the greatest US President ever by decisively defeating Russia without shedding US blood (only money).

Ksyrup 02-03-2025 06:41 AM

All of Musk's weekend shenanigans are frankly impossible to believe. An unelected billionaire has taken over US payment systems, shut down government offices, and downloaded onto private servers millions of Americans confidential information, using a bunch of lackeys with no security clearance. And I haven't heard a peep from Dems. I mean, who works on the weekends?

Fidatelo 02-03-2025 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3456481)
My biggest fear, and this is beginning to be not so much a tinfoil hat thing, that this is all a pretext for active invasion of the whole Northern Hemisphere. Tank the economy, blame it on Canada and Mexico, and invaded to take resources, subjugate them. Taking Greenland is strategic to prevent European interdiction. Invading Panama to take back the canal to control all trade. "Manifest Destiny"



This is where I'm at. Didn't sleep much this weekend. If this was a shakedown there would be an ask that we could try to meet. My kids are 14 and 15, this is not the future I dreamed for them :(

JPhillips 02-03-2025 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3456551)
Explain that one to me. Shouldn't Crypto be exploding? Isn't it supposed to be the hedge against the market?


I don't know. Maybe the tariffs put downward pressure on heroin, hookers, and assassins?


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