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Danny 03-17-2025 08:41 PM

A lot will depend on how bad things get under Trump. If we indeed have a longish recession and things get bad enough for a lot of people, someone who is more progressive but also charismatic may be able to win the primaries and the election.

JPhillips 03-17-2025 08:48 PM

I think Pritzker is a good choice, but there's still so much that will happen before any votes are cast. Pritzker is wise, IMO, jumping out as an early voice against Trump. I don't think a Dem can win without being seen as opposed to Trump in vocal and obvious ways.

RainMaker 03-17-2025 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3459898)
Everything was rigged against Obama and he just won the primary. Losers complain about how elections are unfair when they lose.


Yes, they tried to rig it against Obama too. Candidates shouldn't have to overcome some party elites putting their thumb on the scale. Putting popular candidates at a disadvantage in primaries is how you end up losing general elections and alienating your own supporters. The one thing Democrats excel at.

JPhillips 03-17-2025 09:04 PM

Dems have won three of the last five, five of the last nine. They won the popular vote in seven of the last nine elections. You won't win every time in our system, but they've done better than the opposition.

I liked Bernie, but he couldn't win a primary because he had very little support amongst black voters. That isn't a conspiracy.

RainMaker 03-17-2025 09:07 PM

Pritzker has his own staff outside of the current establishment. He also doesn't need to rely much on donors. Two big no-nos if you're running in a Democratic primary. I just don't see them making it easy for him to win despite how good he has been as a politician.

Remember that the Dems desperately wanted RFK Jr's brother to win the Illinois primary until he fell flat on his face during the campaign and pissed off all the labor groups.

RainMaker 03-17-2025 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3459903)
Dems have won three of the last five, five of the last nine. They won the popular vote in seven of the last nine elections. You won't win every time in our system, but they've done better than the opposition.

I liked Bernie, but he couldn't win a primary because he had very little support amongst black voters. That isn't a conspiracy.


It's not about Bernie or even just Presidential races. They threaten anyone who primaries a moderate incumbent but ignore when moderates primary even slightly progressive candidates. They had more Republicans speaking at the DNC than progressives.

They have a 24% approval rating doing things your way. Control of none of the branches of government. And despite those wins you cited, have done almost nothing with that power compared to Republicans. I'd say they've let Trump win two terms through sheer incompetency, but I think they've made it clear that they don't really have a problem with Trump as long as the money keeps flowing.

larrymcg421 03-17-2025 09:46 PM

Pritzker is sufficiently Zionist to get the support of the insiders. If anything, they'll probably be happy that he's to the right of Harris on that issue.

GrantDawg 03-18-2025 11:27 AM

The Chief Justice felt the need to send this out for no particular reason.../s

"NEW STATEMENT FROM CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS:

"For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose."

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JPhillips 03-18-2025 11:57 AM

Dems have no brand and nobody knows what they get if they vote team D and Citizens United has corrupted all levels of elections. But that's a general election problem. At the primary level, there is no conspiracy. Anybody can win if they persuade the most voters.

Atocep 03-18-2025 12:43 PM

Putin made Trump wait an hour past the scheduled time for their call because he was meeting with Russian oligarchs and then mocked Trump when asked of he was supposed to be on a call with Trump.

Trump continues to lick Putin's boots while Putin takes every opportunity to flex on how weak of president Trump is.

RainMaker 03-18-2025 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3459907)
Pritzker is sufficiently Zionist to get the support of the insiders. If anything, they'll probably be happy that he's to the right of Harris on that issue.


Democratic Zionists are going to have a real tough time with turnout in elections. Polls showing support for Israel is at like 21% now amongst their voters. It was poison for Biden and Harris. The party needs to ween off their AIPAC money if they ever want to be competitive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3459936)
At the primary level, there is no conspiracy. Anybody can win if they persuade the most voters.


The issue is putting the thumb on the scale. If you threaten to blacklist primary challengers from ever working in the party (including vendors), you're making it incredibly hard to take out bad members of the party. Like it's possible, but there should be no reason to make it so hard.

RainMaker 03-18-2025 02:04 PM

Can someone explain the Republican desire to make Canada the 51st state? They'd garner around the same electoral votes as California which would go to the Democrats. Not to mention the huge amount of House seats they would require that again, would benefit Democrats (especially after some gerrymandering). You'd likely also be handing the Democrats 2 Senate seats.

Like it's shitty to do to what was an ally but it would also be political suicide for Republicans.

Edward64 03-18-2025 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3459929)
The Chief Justice felt the need to send this out for no particular reason.../s

"NEW STATEMENT FROM CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS:

"For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose."

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That’s pretty good. I wonder if the Justices had a chat about this and agreed to the wording? Or 1-4 agreed to not disagree or at least stay neutral, quiet?

Passacaglia 03-18-2025 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3459961)
Can someone explain the Republican desire to make Canada the 51st state? They'd garner around the same electoral votes as California which would go to the Democrats. Not to mention the huge amount of House seats they would require that again, would benefit Democrats (especially after some gerrymandering). You'd likely also be handing the Democrats 2 Senate seats.

Like it's shitty to do to what was an ally but it would also be political suicide for Republicans.


I thought they don't want Canada to have a vote? This is really helping us pin down a year when America was "great" - gotta be the 1800s

Ghost Econ 03-18-2025 03:31 PM

It's often the people you suspect the most.

[url="https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/03/18/state-senator-eichorn-arrested-suspicion-of-soliciting-a-minor"[/url]

Maybe I have Trump Derangement Syndrome, but at least I'm not trying to model my life after a pedophile.

PilotMan 03-18-2025 03:51 PM

What a pussy. Just say he was 'framed', 'hacked', 'set up by powerful dark forces' and stick it out. it's what trump would do.

bronconick 03-18-2025 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3459969)
I thought they don't want Canada to have a vote? This is really helping us pin down a year when America was "great" - gotta be the 1800s


1820's, when Andrew Jackson kicked off the trail of Tears and told the Supreme Court to go ahead and enforce their rulings.

Thomkal 03-18-2025 06:26 PM

Ghost Econ,


Should I be concerned or touched that my name is there at least twice in all that you posted?

Lathum 03-18-2025 07:12 PM

Whatever he did my name is population on it so it appears it is linked to your forum handle.

Fidatelo 03-18-2025 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3459961)
Can someone explain the Republican desire to make Canada the 51st state? They'd garner around the same electoral votes as California which would go to the Democrats. Not to mention the huge amount of House seats they would require that again, would benefit Democrats (especially after some gerrymandering). You'd likely also be handing the Democrats 2 Senate seats.

Like it's shitty to do to what was an ally but it would also be political suicide for Republicans.



He uses the term "51st state" because it sounds good, but there is no way we would ever be brought in as a state for all the reasons you listed and more.


IF economic annexation were to happen it would be as a territory like Puerto Rico or some other form of vassal state where the natural resources can be plundered but the people don't have full rights.


In reality we'll never hand ourselves over peacefully anyways, so it will be a violent occupation and we will basically just get treated like Iraq or any other oil-rich country the US has invaded and plundered in the past.

Ghost Econ 03-18-2025 08:14 PM

Fixed that link as much as I could. Keeping it as an actual link fucks things up.

PilotMan 03-18-2025 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 3459987)
He uses the term "51st state" because it sounds good, but there is no way we would ever be brought in as a state for all the reasons you listed and more.


IF economic annexation were to happen it would be as a territory like Puerto Rico or some other form of vassal state where the natural resources can be plundered but the people don't have full rights.


In reality we'll never hand ourselves over peacefully anyways, so it will be a violent occupation and we will basically just get treated like Iraq or any other oil-rich country the US has invaded and plundered in the past.



Hey, how hard will you have to fight when you've got BROCK LESNAR on your side?!

Ghost Econ 03-19-2025 07:44 AM

I'm hoping we can take back porch monkey next.

Trump Ends Segregated Facilities Ban

Yes, I know there are still laws, but when the administration says laws they don't like don't matter...

JPhillips 03-19-2025 07:52 AM

NIH sent out guidance that says they won't be funding mRNA research anymore.

In unrelated news scientists announced a couple of weeks ago that an mRNA vaccine had cured pancreatic cancer in a number of patients. Oh, well.

PilotMan 03-19-2025 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460001)
NIH sent out guidance that says they won't be funding mRNA research anymore.

In unrelated news scientists announced a couple of weeks ago that an mRNA vaccine had cured pancreatic cancer in a number of patients. Oh, well.



Stealing this.

Atocep 03-19-2025 11:58 AM

Apparently Trump plans on paving over the rose garden and turning it into something similar to the patio area he has at Mara a Lago.

JPhillips 03-19-2025 12:17 PM

Rumors are that Trump is going to zero out funding for domestic HIV prevention.

Ksyrup 03-19-2025 12:24 PM

Just read the Bulwark article about MAHA being a fraud. What a surprise! But the idea of "making America healthy again" is just ridiculous. We've never been as healthy as we are now.

NobodyHere 03-19-2025 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3460035)
Just read the Bulwark article about MAHA being a fraud. What a surprise! But the idea of "making America healthy again" is just ridiculous. We've never been as healthy as we are now.


Isn't Life Expectancy in the US going down because we eat too much KFC?

Atocep 03-19-2025 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3460036)
Isn't Life Expectancy in the US going down because we eat too much KFC?


Red states are what's mostly dragging things down. There are massive gaps, as much as 6 years, between some blue states and the deep south.

Ksyrup 03-19-2025 12:44 PM

Downtick is related, mostly, to Covid. But we're generally still on the down trend thanks to the current "don't trust science" BS while life expectancy is on the rise again most everywhere else.

But you look at life expectancy overall compared to 50 years ago, or infant mortality rate, smoking, cancer mortality rate, etc. Now, things like Type 2 Diabetes and obesity are rising, and you can see the trends in the deep south/red states on that. But you know what MAHA doesn't like, either? The newer drugs that help!

RainMaker 03-19-2025 12:48 PM

COVID did a number on our life expectancy rate too.

Ksyrup 03-19-2025 12:50 PM

That's what I was referring to - the downtick in life expectancy is mostly related to Covid, and getting back to a positive trajectory is getting stalled by anti-science.

RainMaker 03-19-2025 12:53 PM

Yeah, didn't see your post when I started mine.

We also have an extremely high infant mortality rate compared to other Western countries which will drag down life expectancy too (beyond all the other factors). That's unlikely to be fixed with abortion illegal in many states and lack of health care access for so many.

Ksyrup 03-19-2025 12:55 PM

But the point about infant mortality rate is that right now, it's half what it was 40 years ago and a quarter of what it was 60 years ago. So this beef tallow BS about getting back to when we were healthy is grade A horseshit.

RainMaker 03-19-2025 12:58 PM

How did the beef tallow thing start? Is it an offshoot of the anti-seed oil people? Like it's fine if you're using beef tallow instead of other oils but the problem seems to be calories to me. You eat too many calories, you don't live as long. Whether that's coming from seed oils, beef tallow, or whatever is trendy.

flere-imsaho 03-19-2025 01:18 PM

I must have missed the beef tallow thing. Can someone explain?

Atocep 03-19-2025 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3460050)
I must have missed the beef tallow thing. Can someone explain?


RFK is touting the health benefits of beef tallow over seed oils. He specifically mentioned steak n shake using beef tallow. Actual studies show seed oils are far healthier though, iirc.

Just more facebook mom group bullshit.

Ksyrup 03-19-2025 01:25 PM

Steak n Shake has become the latest corporation to court the pro-MAGA people by publicly announcing they are switching from fries fried in seed oil to beef tallow - even though fast food fries are pre-fried in seed oil before they are ever shipped to stores. I believe Wendy's is doing the same.

Danny 03-19-2025 01:30 PM

I like to start my day with a big bowl of beef tallow. My cholesterol is 742 but RFK says ive never been healthier

flere-imsaho 03-19-2025 01:46 PM

sigh

BYU 14 03-19-2025 02:18 PM

Or just don't eat fast food fries, I don't think tallow or seed oil is going to make much of a difference if you eat at McDonalds or Wendys 5-6 times a week.

RainMaker 03-19-2025 02:34 PM

Yeah I still don't quite understand the health part of this. I'm guessing it might taste better in beef tallow. I used to go to a place that made their fries in duck fat. But you're still frying potatoes in immense amounts of fat. There's just no way you're making that healthy no matter what fat you fry it in.

JonInMiddleGA 03-19-2025 02:50 PM

{scratches head}

The "beef tallow is healthier" argument mentioned here is something I haven't heard anyone mention, outside of the media coverage.

The joy among real people is that the fries taste better and that some companies are now moving away from the poorly conceived switch to other oils that started about 30 years ago.

RFK is largely a fucking loon afaic, but if companies want to use him as cover for making food taste better again then fine by me.

GrantDawg 03-19-2025 02:55 PM

I can guarantee beef tallow tastes better than most vegetable or seed oils, but fries are still best cooked in peanut oil.

RainMaker 03-19-2025 03:00 PM

The greatest fries I've ever had were cooked in duck fat. Don't think I've ever had duck either but whatever that does to potatoes is magical.

Atocep 03-19-2025 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3460065)
The greatest fries I've ever had were cooked in duck fat. Don't think I've ever had duck either but whatever that does to potatoes is magical.


Duck fat fries are one of the greatest foods I've ever experienced. But yeah, I'm not eating them to lose weight and be healthy.

Passacaglia 03-19-2025 03:46 PM

There's a place near me that has duck fat fries and I can't tell the difference between that and their regular fries.

GrantDawg 03-19-2025 04:15 PM

I have never really liked duck, but I have never tried anything cooked in the fat. Funny enough, I find duck too fatty tasting.

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JPhillips 03-19-2025 04:18 PM

There are rabbit holes to go down regarding people and their weird beliefs about seed oils.

RainMaker 03-19-2025 04:48 PM

DOGE along with the help of local police illegally entered private property. No charges filed of course.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...er-musk-trump/

Flasch186 03-19-2025 09:24 PM

Having a child with a 504 & an IEP puts me right in the cross hairs of the department of education closure. Big unknowns ahead.


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Edward64 03-20-2025 05:42 AM

It was pretty obvious we're headed down this path. Just another article confirming it.

I do wonder how quickly SCOTUS can act on the growing pipeline coming up (hopefully) soon e.g. how do they prioritize cases, will they defer a bunch of already scheduled ones to take on all/many of the new Trump ones.

Trump administration unfazed by court losses and sets sights on Supreme Court | CNN Politics
Quote:

Even before President Donald Trump retook office, his advisers expected that his executive orders and other policy moves would face immediate legal challenges. It was expected that those challenges would be filed in districts that were friendly to challengers and would result in initial losses for the administration.

That has been the case. Over 160 lawsuits have been filed against various administration policies, Attorney General Pam Bondi said Wednesday on Fox News. They are often in jurisdictions with mostly or all Democratic-appointed judges such as Boston, Maryland, Seattle and Washington, DC, though that doesn’t guarantee success for the plaintiffs.

But the Trump legal strategy has always been a long game designed to get these questions before the conservative supermajority at the Supreme Court where his lawyers believe Trump will prevail in his expansive use of executive power. A recent string of court losses has not deterred the administration from continuing to pursue this strategy.

Atocep 03-20-2025 09:55 AM

SCOTUS is just part of the equation. The plan with this 2nd administration is to flood the judicial and some of these cases are going to land in front of a sympathetic judge. If they attack immigration policy from 100 different angles all at the same time the judicial can't keep up and some stuff is going to get through and get abused for some time even in the event SCOTUS eventually rules against them.

Atocep 03-20-2025 10:31 AM

Our commerce secretary made a TV appearance to urge people to buy stock in a company owned by a billionaire working within the administration. I have to assume that's illegal as hell but Elon can just fire anyone that investigates.

Flasch186 03-20-2025 10:37 AM

Also the stuff that is being broken along the way cannot be put back together again if a court intervenes. Feature not a bug.


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flere-imsaho 03-20-2025 11:22 AM

It's basically what Trump did in business: lock up everything in litigation and then continue what you're doing anyway until the legal process has finally, fully, been exhausted. The main difference being that he only needs to stall through the judiciary for 4 years. And if he gets the chance to replace Sotomayor, Kagan, or Roberts, he'll likely have a SCOTUS who will let him do whatever he wants anyway. Win-win-win.

JPhillips 03-21-2025 08:20 AM

Trump is now threatening to send US citizens to be tortured in El Salvador.

Passacaglia 03-21-2025 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3460000)
I'm hoping we can take back porch monkey next.

Trump Ends Segregated Facilities Ban

Yes, I know there are still laws, but when the administration says laws they don't like don't matter...


I'm surprised this didn't become a bigger deal.

Ghost Econ 03-21-2025 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460190)
Trump is now threatening to send US citizens to be tortured in El Salvador.


He's just joking, but also Trump is a straight shooter and means everything he says.

Edward64 03-21-2025 03:04 PM

Thanks, Joe Rogan.

There's plenty of other countries to pick fights with, Canada is just not one of them ... especially since about 60% of US crude comes from Canada.

Quote:

Rogan, who voted for Trump and welcomed him on his show, said: 'Why are we upset at Canada? This is stupid, this over tariffs We got to become friends with Canada again, this is so ridiculous.

'I can't believe there is anti American, anti Canadian sentiment going on. 'It's the dumbest f****** feud.

'I just want America and Canada to get along, I think it's ridiculous. And I don't think they should be our 51st state.'


Likely won't affect Trump much, but maybe some of their shared supporters will gravitate towards Rogan's POV.

JPhillips 03-21-2025 03:36 PM

Commerce Secretary is floating the idea of seniors not getting their Social Security checks for a month as a way to find fraud.

Good fucking luck with that.

Edward64 03-21-2025 03:50 PM

Lots of good stuff in the article, worth the read. Nothing surprising but article has some polling nos.

Just a moment...
Quote:

Just 40 percent of Democrats approve of the job performance of congressional Democrats, compared to 49 percent who disapprove. That’s a dramatic change from this time last year, when 75 percent of Democrats approved compared to just 21 percent who disapproved. The Democratic base’s disillusionment runs so deep that it’s eerily reminiscent of Republican grassroots sentiment in the period leading up to Donald Trump’s takeover of the Republican Party.
I vote for more moderate but I can easily see them go more left, as the old guard fades, and roll the dice on younger leaders.

Quote:

Despite the restive energy in the party’s progressive wing, the Democratic discontent does not seem to be centered around a desire to pull the party to the left or the right. Democrats cannot seem to agree on which direction the party should move in — recent Gallup polling found that 45 percent wanted the party to become more moderate, while 29 percent felt it should become more liberal, and 22 percent wanted it to stay the same.

RainMaker 03-21-2025 04:06 PM

They did go moderate and got their ass kicked. Just as they did in 2016. How many times can you trust Lucy to hold that football for you?

JPhillips 03-21-2025 05:51 PM

They always go more moderate and sometimes that wins. I don't think policy matters much once you have a brand, though. If they could commit to fighting for anything it would be a good start.

Danny 03-21-2025 06:22 PM

I think weve seen that in todays world the candidate and their vibes are more important than their policy and positions

JPhillips 03-21-2025 07:04 PM

Quote:

Doocy: The judge wants to know why the proclamation was signed in the dark

Trump: I don’t know when it was signed. I didn’t sign it. Other people handled it.

There's a picture of his signature on this order. Is his signature faked? Is his mind total mush? There should be some followup.

Ksyrup 03-21-2025 08:00 PM

Auto-pen!

JPhillips 03-21-2025 10:06 PM

Trump ordered DoJ and DHS to go after any attorneys who sue the government.

RainMaker 03-21-2025 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460211)
They always go more moderate and sometimes that wins. I don't think policy matters much once you have a brand, though. If they could commit to fighting for anything it would be a good start.


When was the last time that won?

JPhillips 03-22-2025 07:12 AM

I'm so old I remember 2020.

flere-imsaho 03-22-2025 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460206)
Commerce Secretary is floating the idea of seniors not getting their Social Security checks for a month as a way to find fraud.


I'm 100% for this. If there's one thing the vast swathes of MAGA voters in Appalachia and other similar parts of the country hate more than anything, it's anyone fucking with "their" ill-gotten SSDI "draw". I know literally nothing has turned them off Trump, but this might.

Surprised JD "Hillbily Elegy Couch Fucker" Vance didn't tell Trump this.

RainMaker 03-22-2025 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460223)
I'm so old I remember 2020.


He ran on student loan forgiveness, free college, raising the minimum wage, universal preschool, paid family leave, ending wars, expanding public health, increasing SS, and huge plans for infrastructure upgrades and clean energy. They were talking about it as New Deal-esque. One of the most progressive campaigns a Dem has run in ages.

JPhillips 03-22-2025 02:34 PM

Dude. You can't simultaneously complain about Dems rigging the primary for centrists while also saying Biden was the left most candidate.

JPhillips 03-22-2025 02:48 PM

dola

Last night Trump signed an EO that makes all data held by the government available to every department head and demands that states turn over any data collected by any program that has federal funding. There will be one giant database of all of our information, tax returns, mortgage info, health records, education records, everything.

It's a step towards a police state.

flere-imsaho 03-22-2025 03:23 PM

Biden ran in 2020 on "I'm not Trump", which implied "Vote for me and the insanity will stop and I won't do anything too crazy."

JPhillips 03-22-2025 06:32 PM

Solid work from Trump/Elon.


PilotMan 03-22-2025 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460235)
dola

Last night Trump signed an EO that makes all data held by the government available to every department head and demands that states turn over any data collected by any program that has federal funding. There will be one giant database of all of our information, tax returns, mortgage info, health records, education records, everything.

It's a step towards a police state.



Almost makes you wonder which tyrannical government the gun toting crazies were looking to defend themselves against?

Atocep 03-23-2025 01:30 PM

The Trump administration has banned VA employee benefits reps from contacting attorneys from the Office of Soldier's Counsel, their attorneys, without political approval. The VA uses the OSC to get the best benefits available for veterans by interpreting laws and regulations and also investigating shady doctors in network with the VA.

Basically, they're trying to indirectly make VA cuts by making sure Veterans don't get the benefits they should be receiving and aren't protected from bad doctors.

RainMaker 03-23-2025 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460234)
Dude. You can't simultaneously complain about Dems rigging the primary for centrists while also saying Biden was the left most candidate.


Just telling you what he campaigned on. Him and Bernie even sat down and put out a huge policy list. Don't you remember all the talk about Biden running as a New Deal President? Free college and pre-K were in all the commercials.

He actually sort of tried to fill those promises too the first year or so. Then shifted his whole Presidency to Ukraine and deep throating Israel.

Ksyrup 03-23-2025 07:53 PM

The administration going after law firms, and at least one (Paul Weiss) backing down, is extremely troubling. This is fucking terrible. No one has a backbone. Money over everything. Next step is apparently trying to intimidate immigration attorneys. And the GOP, lead by Bondi's brother, is attempting to take over the DC bar.

GrantDawg 03-24-2025 11:33 AM

Guys, we literally have the most incompetent people handling our most important positions. My guess is Secretary Pete was three sheets to the wind when he texted the war plans to a newspaper editor.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...campaign=share

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Lathum 03-24-2025 11:36 AM

He should resign and be charged, but of course none of that will happen

Atocep 03-24-2025 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3460281)
Guys, we literally have the most incompetent people handling our most important positions. My guess is Secretary Pete was three sheets to the wind when he texted the war plans to a newspaper editor.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...campaign=share

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C'mon, it's not like he was storing highly classified documents in his bathroom or something.

JPhillips 03-24-2025 02:56 PM

Trump says he's putting a 25% tariff on all products from countries that buy oil from Venezuela. Not sure how that works with Chevron's oil from Venezuela that comes into the U.S.

JPhillips 03-24-2025 04:15 PM

Still no statements from Schumer or Jeffries. Dems just do not play at anywhere close to the right speed. This will be gone tomorrow in part because there's no organized response from Dems.

Lathum 03-24-2025 04:30 PM

Dog Killer announced today they are going to start working on dismantling FEMA. Should work out well for poor red states prone to hurricanic and tornados, especially when you combine it with gutting NOAA. IT will legit be line 1887 on the plains.

RainMaker 03-24-2025 04:31 PM

Schumer is doing a book tour. Cut him some slack.



Atocep 03-24-2025 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460301)
Still no statements from Schumer or Jeffries. Dems just do not play at anywhere close to the right speed. This will be gone tomorrow in part because there's no organized response from Dems.


Schumer still thinks the GOP is going to turn on Trump without outside pressure.

JPhillips 03-24-2025 04:44 PM

Atocep: I read a guy claiming the payroll system for the VA is fucked up. Have you heard anything?

Atocep 03-24-2025 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3460307)
Atocep: I read a guy claiming the payroll system for the VA is fucked up. Have you heard anything?


Nothing yet. The wife and I's VA doesn't usually hit until the 26th-28th.

Atocep 03-24-2025 06:37 PM

We have Hegseth leaking strike plans, Trump saying he knows nothing about it, Russia and Ukraine ignoring their partial ceasefire, and Witkoff admitting that Hamas "duped" him.

Is this the global respect MAGA keeps chest thumping about?

wustin 03-25-2025 12:01 AM

Isn't mistakenly texting classified DoD information through an unapproved method worse than whatever Hillary was doing a decade ago.

Ghost Econ 03-25-2025 07:19 AM

No, she was DEI

JPhillips 03-25-2025 07:57 AM

I don't know if they'll arrest Goldberg, but I'm quite certain they are going to threaten to arrest him.

Lathum 03-25-2025 09:16 AM

Josh Hawleys comments on this tell you everything you need to know about the current GOP. All hypocrisy and zero accountability.

Ghost Econ 03-25-2025 10:03 AM

Trump said he's a good man, so everything is fine.

Atocep 03-25-2025 11:50 AM

Waltz is likely forced to resign. No one else will see any consequences. Hegseth is still saying it didn't happen and attacking the reporter's credibility despite everyone else admitting it happened. Tulsi is trying to run with "no classified information was shared" but won't release anything from the chat because it's classified.

GrantDawg 03-25-2025 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3460332)
Waltz is likely forced to resign. No one else will see any consequences. Hegseth is still saying it didn't happen and attacking the reporter's credibility despite everyone else admitting it happened. Tulsi is trying to run with "no classified information was shared" but won't release anything from the chat because it's classified.



Let me get this straight. The exact time, units, targets and source to be used to determine damage of a military attack is not classified. The time a deportation plane took off is. Make it make sense!

JPhillips 03-25-2025 01:05 PM

Rep. Crockett's shot at Gov. Abbott as Gov. Hotwheels is really ugly and counterproductive.


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