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Ksyrup 02-27-2025 02:45 PM

Thes are some excerpts from the latest AP news article:

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Hackman, 95, was found dead Wednesday in a mudroom and his 63-year-old wife, Betsy Arakawa, was found in a bathroom next to a space heater, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office detectives wrote in a search warrant. There was an open prescription bottle and pills scattered on a countertop near Arakawa.

Hackman appeared to have fallen, a deputy observed. He was wearing a blue t-shirt, gray sweatpants and slippers. A pair of sunglasses and a cane were nearby.

A dead German shepherd was found in a bathroom closet near Arakawa, police said. Two healthy dogs were found on the property — one inside and one outside.


GrantDawg 02-27-2025 08:40 PM

They are now saying it is a suspicious dearh investigation. One theory is that she fell with the pills, and the dog might have eaten some and poisoned himself. Still no guess on what killed them both.

Edit: Also, they were partially mummified when found. They have been dead for a while.

Ksyrup 02-27-2025 08:48 PM

The dog was in a kennel or cage. I think it could have starved. Two other dogs - one inside, one outside - survived.

GrantDawg 02-27-2025 08:57 PM

There are conflicting reports on the dog. The report I saw he was in a closet but not caged.

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GrantDawg 02-28-2025 06:14 AM

I saw the police press conference, and they did say the dog was in a crate. Poor puppy probably did die of dehydration.

Edit: They are still not ruling out carbonmonoxcide. Because they have been dead a while, any gas might have already dissipated before they were found.

GrantDawg 02-28-2025 08:34 PM

Early tests show no signs of carbonmonoxcide poisoning.

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GrantDawg 03-01-2025 01:38 PM

David Johansen aka Buster Poindexter, lead singer of the New York Dolls dead at 75.

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Ksyrup 03-01-2025 01:40 PM

Yeah, I saw several articles a week or 3 ago about his downturn in health. He's had some really bad health luck in the last decade or so.

sovereignstar v2 03-01-2025 08:06 PM

Such a good actor. Have a bunch of his movies available, but struggled to pick one tonight. Went with Unforgiven, then maybe The Birdcage

NobodyHere 03-01-2025 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3458814)
Such a good actor. Have a bunch of his movies available, but struggled to pick one tonight. Went with Unforgiven, then maybe The Birdcage


Space Travelers yo


sovereignstar v2 03-01-2025 08:32 PM

I'll raise you The Poseidon Adventure

GrantDawg 03-02-2025 08:27 AM

One of my guilty pleasure favorites is "Heartbreakers".

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GrantDawg 03-07-2025 07:04 PM

We have the full sad story now. Gene Hackman died a week after his wife collapsed and died from the hantavirus. He had advanced Alzheimers, and died from Cardiovascular disease.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/gene-hackm...y?id=119510052

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Edward64 03-08-2025 05:17 AM

Pretty darn sad story.

I don't know his financial/personal situation but you'd think he would have resources to spend on home healthcare help etc. and/or his kids would checkup on them more than once a week.

Ksyrup 03-08-2025 06:18 AM

Friends said he had become reclusive and suffering mentally. I wonder if he didn't allow anyone too close to them near the end. And obviously she wasn't in a good space either.

I'm sure I've posted about it here at some point, but I had a morbidly obese/hoarder aunt who passed over 20 years ago. She didn't show up for Thanksgiving at my uncle's, they went and checked on her, and found her dead in her apartment. Had been 2-3 weeks. She would never let anyone come to her place. Once she passed, we found out why. We went up there to help clean up. It still sticks with me to this day.

GrantDawg 03-08-2025 08:07 AM

Had a cousin who died the same way. After a couple of weeks one of her brothers finally broke into her house and found her dead in filth in the kitchen. It is so sad what mental demons can cause.

GrantDawg 03-08-2025 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3459274)
Pretty darn sad story.

I don't know his financial/personal situation but you'd think he would have resources to spend on home healthcare help etc. and/or his kids would checkup on them more than once a week.

My mom died of Alzheimer, and her husband was her only caretaker. He refused help even when she had deteriorated to the point she couldn't remember to eat, drink or use the bathroom on her own. She had always made clear she never wanted to be put into a facility or be a "burden" to us kids, so instead she made the man that loved her give up his whole life to only care for her. He died shortly after she did.

Ksyrup 03-11-2025 09:03 PM

I don't know if everyone knows Junior Bridgeman, but he was a former UL player in the 70s under Denny Crum and played in the NBA for about a decade, mostly with the Bucks. After his playing days, he became a billionaire businessman and part owner of the Bucks. He was a big Louisville community leader/philanthropist.

Anyway, today, literally next door to our office, he was attending a charity event. A co-worker of mine and my boss's wife were there. After the event, Bridgeman was giving an interview, stopped, told everyone he thought he was having a heart attack, and basically collapsed. I don't know if he died there or at the hospital, but unfortunately he passed.

Sweed 03-11-2025 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3459554)
I don't know if everyone knows Junior Bridgeman, but he was a former UL player in the 70s under Denny Crum and played in the NBA for about a decade, mostly with the Bucks. After his playing days, he became a billionaire businessman and part owner of the Bucks. He was a big Louisville community leader/philanthropist.

Anyway, today, literally next door to our office, he was attending a charity event. A co-worker of mine and my boss's wife were there. After the event, Bridgeman was giving an interview, stopped, told everyone he thought he was having a heart attack, and basically collapsed. I don't know if he died there or at the hospital, but unfortunately he passed.


IIRC was drafted by the Lakers (never played for them) and a part of the Kareem trade.

RIP.

Atocep 03-12-2025 08:26 PM

RIP to the Big O, Oliver Miller. He passed at age 54.

Edward64 03-12-2025 08:53 PM

RIP.

A great Hog during our heyday

RainMaker 03-13-2025 02:28 PM

John Feinstein passed away. Was my go-to for book reports in school. A Season on the Brink is still one of the best sports books I've ever read. He had a knack for picking a team/conference/season and bringing it to life. The Last Amateurs, A March for Madness, and A Civil War are incredible books.

Tributes pour in for legendary sportswriter John Feinstein, dead at 68

Ksyrup 03-13-2025 02:37 PM

Wow, RIP.

Also, considering we don't know how he died or what he died of, this statement seems ... weird. Or a clue to how he died.

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The Post noted that a clear sign of Feinstein’s “indefatigable work ethic” was that he filed a column the day before his death on Michigan State coach Tom Izzo.

Now, if he had an undisclosed illness and kept working until the day he died, this makes sense. I'm guessing someone knows the truth and gave it away with this statement? Because if he had a heart attack or died in a car wreck, it doesn't really make any sense. Most people who die (relatively) young and unexpectedly are doing something up until they suddenly die. The fact that I put in a normal day at work the day before I step in front of a bus isn't evidence of my "indefatiguable work ethic."

Edward64 03-18-2025 08:57 AM

A twist re: Hackman and wife. Wife supposedly died on Feb 11 but plenty of evidence that she was alive on Feb 12 and not seemingly ill.

Police issue update on Gene Hackman mystery after calls from his wife's phone were revealed | Daily Mail Online
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The Santa Fe medical examiner claimed a post-mortem examination showed Arakawa died of hantavirus, a rare rat-borne respiratory disease, on February 11 – a full week before her Oscar-winning husband died of heart failure combined with Alzheimer's disease.

But now police have confirmed Arakawa, 65, made multiple phone calls to a health clinic on February 12 - a day after she was initially believed to have died, according to BBC.
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Dr Child said: 'She called back on the morning of February 12 and spoke to one of our doctors who told her to come in that afternoon.

'We made her an appointment but she never showed up. She did not show any symptoms of respiratory distress. The appointment wasn't for anything related to hantavirus. We tried calling her a couple of times with no reply.'
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'Respiratory failure is not sudden – it is something that worsens over several days.

'Most people get admitted to the ER [emergency room] because they are having trouble breathing. It's exceedingly rare for a seemingly healthy 65-year-old to drop dead of it. In fact, no one's heard of such a thing.'

I don't know how often coroners "miss" date of deaths. Some variances are understandable but this one seems like a big miss? Also, some questions if she really died of hantavirus. My guess is the coroner messed up here.

GrantDawg 03-18-2025 11:29 AM

The story that won't end. Who knew the death of a 95 year old would have this many twists?

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albionmoonlight 03-18-2025 11:43 AM

It makes you wonder how often coroners miss things. In most cases, there's no need to follow up or anything.

Honolulu_Blue 03-18-2025 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3459932)
It makes you wonder how often coroners miss things. In most cases, there's no need to follow up or anything.


One of my best friends is a medical examiner. The quality of medical examiners definitely varies. There is a significant shortage of them, because in relation to other medical professions that require a MD, it doesn't pay well. Most medical examiners are employed by state or local government, so their pay is restricted by local rules/budgets on pay. My friend has found it incredibly difficult to recruit and hire new doctors as a result.

There are some counties that outsource their medical examiner work to pathologists at local hospitals, but that's not really their "day job" so to speak, so the quality can vary there as well.

My friend is really good at it and does work for the FBI on cold cases in addition to his work. For the first few years, whenever we'd get back together we'd always ask him about his job and his most interesting cases... It was often over dinner and we quickly stopped asking. A lot of his stories were super gross or disturbing like the fire fetishist guy who got off on fire and eventually started to lather himself in that stuntman jelly, light himself on fire, and start masturbating until the last time when he was unable to put the fire out and ended up burning to death. At least he died doing what he loved!

RainMaker 03-18-2025 01:34 PM

Can't a guy have hobbies?

PilotMan 03-18-2025 01:53 PM

When do we start asking questions about why trump had Hackman and his wife killed?

B & B 03-18-2025 06:44 PM

Cant Trump have hobbies?

Bobble 03-18-2025 09:56 PM

If it was Trump, wouldn't he have Putin'd them by having them "accidentally" fall out of the penthouse window?

Edward64 03-22-2025 05:45 AM

RIP George Foreman

Wish I could have seen you fight (and also Ali, Frazier) in your prime.

GrantDawg 03-22-2025 12:45 PM

My condolences to his children George, George, George, George, George, George, and George

Thomkal 03-22-2025 01:05 PM

I will cook something on your grill this week in your honor George

Ksyrup 03-26-2025 06:33 PM

RIP Clive Revill, a fantastic Columbo murderer in the last episode of the original (70s) series and, oh yeah, I guess he starred on Broadway and was the original voice of the Emperor in Star Wars and did a bunch of other stuff, too.

GrantDawg 03-30-2025 09:10 AM

In the "I thought he was already dead" category, Richard Chamberlan has died at 90. King of the mini-series, shows like Centennial, Shogun, and The Thorn Birds were such events. He was every 70's and 80's mom's crush.

GrantDawg 03-30-2025 09:20 AM

He was "Dr. Kildare" in the 60's as well, but that wasn't a show that I ever saw on reruns. I heard the name many times (usually in jokes. Great joke name for a doctor).

JonInMiddleGA 03-30-2025 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3460568)
He was "Dr. Kildare" in the 60's as well, but that wasn't a show that I ever saw on reruns. I heard the name many times (usually in jokes. Great joke name for a doctor).


The TV show followed the radio version (starring Lew Ayres) which had been created after a successful series of movies.

Lionel Barrymore as the wise old Dr. Gillespie was very good in the radio version.

edit to add: Maybe I shouldn't say "good" so much as "entertaining" cause he cranked that character up to 11 every chance he got lol

GrantDawg 03-30-2025 12:48 PM

I don't know how I never saw it. Most of those shows were available on TBS or stations like that, but I never saw anyone carrying it.

CrimsonFox 03-30-2025 02:15 PM

RIP Richard Chamberlain, The King of the miniseries!


JonInMiddleGA 03-30-2025 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3460574)
I don't know how I never saw it. Most of those shows were available on TBS or stations like that, but I never saw anyone carrying it.


I'm not sure I recall it ever being aired in syndication honestly. There were (apparently) some home video releases but I'm not sure I've ever seen anything more than a stray episode online here & there over the years.

cuervo72 03-30-2025 06:34 PM

Honestly thought he’d already died as well.

CrimsonFox 03-31-2025 03:49 AM

Okay let's settle this. What's the best?

Shogun or The Thorn Birds?

GrantDawg 03-31-2025 06:51 AM

Really can't answer that. I remember watching "Centennial", but was very young and don't really remember much. I really don't think I watched Shogun or Thorn Birds. Thorn Birds I just had no interest in, and I don't know why I didn't watch Shogun. I actually might have and just completely forgotten it.

CrimsonFox 04-02-2025 01:11 AM



Val Kilmer dies at 65 of pneumonia

GrantDawg 04-02-2025 04:09 AM

Val Kilmer was one of the greatest actors of his generation. His career was derailed because of cancer, and now dead too young. His Doc Holiday in Tombstone is one of the best movie characters of all time.
This just sucks.

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albionmoonlight 04-02-2025 07:16 AM

His character in Heat could have easily been just one of the thieves. But he gave it a memorable depth.

Gone too soon. RIP.

Thomkal 04-02-2025 08:33 AM

Who will save us from the Joker now? RIP Batman

sovereignstar v2 04-02-2025 09:26 AM

Madmartigan noooooooooooooo

Carman Bulldog 04-02-2025 02:21 PM

Would highly recommend the documentary "Val", which I believe is available on Amazon Prime. Great look at his life.


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