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JPhillips 01-18-2025 10:01 AM

Well I wouldn't want to model the US on Argentina yet. The inflation rate is still over 100% and the poverty rate is over 50%.

MIJB#19 01-18-2025 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3454907)
Maybe we can learn something from Argentina.

Of course not. They elected an even bigger headcase than Trump.

GrantDawg 01-18-2025 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3454909)
Well I wouldn't want to model the US on Argentina yet. The inflation rate is still over 100% and the poverty rate is over 50%.

But how are the wealthy doing? I mean, in an oligarchy that's all that matter right?

JPhillips 01-18-2025 12:23 PM

I'm willing to give him some time and I generally think a free economy is better than the Peronism they've done previously, but I don't care about a budget surplus if half the country is living in poverty.

JPhillips 01-19-2025 11:27 AM

dola

Trump's meme coin now accounts for 90% of his net worth.

Atocep 01-19-2025 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3455004)
dola

Trump's meme coin now accounts for 90% of his net worth.


Clear securities fraud when a coin launches and 80% of the coins are owned by the creator and other insiders. This is an example of why people don't take crypto seriously and why the SEC has been trying to crack down on it. Unfortunately, the creator of the coin will soon have control over the SEC and is immune from prosecution.

JPhillips 01-19-2025 02:49 PM

If Trump can use an executive order to overturn a law passed by Congress and signed by the previous president, what stops him from doing that whenever he wants?

JonInMiddleGA 01-19-2025 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3455021)
If Trump can use an executive order to overturn a law passed by Congress and signed by the previous president, what stops him from doing that whenever he wants?


The law itself specifically provided for the President to suspend enforcement for 90 days. It's literally baked in.

(parsing whether the conditions to invoke that provision is a different discussion IMO)

JPhillips 01-19-2025 03:01 PM

My understanding, from Tom Cotten among others, is that the 90 extension had to happen before the law went into effect and required specific benchmarks.

JPhillips 01-19-2025 04:27 PM

Trump's coin crashed over 40%...

And Melania dropped her own coin.

They're going to steal everything they can from their supporters.

Fidatelo 01-20-2025 07:11 AM

The meme coins are so beyond egregious they beget some new word for their audacity. And more scary than fleecing their sheep (which has been going on for a decade and was always going to continue) is that this is clearly a vehicle for even more quid pro quo. Those sheep don't have 56 billion to prop this piece of shit up so quickly, and yeah of course a bunch of that money is also crypto degens getting in on the pump but I'm sure another good chunk is just payment for future favors from bad actors world wide.


So, so gross.

JPhillips 01-20-2025 10:40 AM

Will be interesting to see what happens when Trump tries to end birthright citizenship with an executive order. The Constitution is completely clear on this but I expect at least three SCOTUS votes to support an EO.

Lathum 01-20-2025 11:00 AM

Tech CEOs on the dais with Trump while governors are sent to overflow room. Everything is for sale with Trump, including and first America and democracy.

jcard 01-20-2025 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 3455071)
The meme coins are so beyond egregious they beget some new word for their audacity. And more scary than fleecing their sheep (which has been going on for a decade and was always going to continue) is that this is clearly a vehicle for even more quid pro quo. Those sheep don't have 56 billion to prop this piece of shit up so quickly, and yeah of course a bunch of that money is also crypto degens getting in on the pump but I'm sure another good chunk is just payment for future favors from bad actors world wide.


So, so gross.


The person on a meme coin should be P.T. Barnum…

Edward64 01-20-2025 11:38 AM

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Trump pledges to release classified records on assassinations of JFK and MLK Jr.

Don't care.

But can you please send a team of investigative reporters into Area 51 and give them total access!

JPhillips 01-20-2025 12:22 PM

Can you imagine the Q storm if a Dem took the oath without touching the Bible?

Ghost Econ 01-20-2025 12:23 PM

Can't have burst in flames on the first day.

RainMaker 01-20-2025 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3455078)
Tech CEOs on the dais with Trump while governors are sent to overflow room. Everything is for sale with Trump, including and first America and democracy.


This is how government has been for some time now. To Trump's credit, he doesn't pretend it's anything otherwise. I prefer it being out in the open like this than pretending they aren't all bought and paid for.

Atocep 01-20-2025 02:53 PM

Um, did Elon really Sieg Heil during the inauguration? I just saw a clip and it looks bad. There has to be another context.

Ksyrup 01-20-2025 02:59 PM

Eh, it's nothing. Just a tech bro salute. You're taking it completely out of context, surely.

Atocep 01-20-2025 03:02 PM

He's even awkward as a nazi.


RainMaker 01-20-2025 03:07 PM

Least racist apartheid South African

Atocep 01-20-2025 03:15 PM

3 lawsuits filed questioning the legality of DOGE during the inauguration.

Brian Swartz 01-20-2025 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64
But can you please send a team of investigative reporters into Area 51 and give them total access!


No. And you'd be extremely disappointed with the results if they did.

flere-imsaho 01-20-2025 04:07 PM

Department of Government Efficiency. With 2 bosses, not one. Because that's efficient.

Lathum 01-20-2025 04:16 PM

Vivek gets canned 3 hours into the trump admin. It’s amazing how none of them have learned he will always turn on you at some point.

RainMaker 01-20-2025 04:49 PM

New money and old money don't mix.

JonInMiddleGA 01-20-2025 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3455114)
No. And you'd be extremely disappointed with the results if they did.


Now Area 52 on the other hand ...

Ksyrup 01-20-2025 04:58 PM

Looks like I picked the wrong day to want to watch the local news.

GrantDawg 01-20-2025 05:00 PM

Me too, Kysrup. I'm wanted to see latest on the snow coming in. Could care less about this stuff.

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Atocep 01-20-2025 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3455124)
Vivek gets canned 3 hours into the trump admin. It’s amazing how none of them have learned he will always turn on you at some point.


That's like 0.1 Scaramucci's. I think that's a Trump administration record.

Atocep 01-20-2025 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3455108)
Eh, it's nothing. Just a tech bro salute. You're taking it completely out of context, surely.


Conservative spin has been to either edit around it so they're not showing it or claim that it's a Roman salute, which is what Mussolini claimed it was when Italy started using it, so that doesn't make it any better.

Pre-Trump he'd already have been on a plane back to South Africa because he's so toxic. Now he gets a defacto promotion by firing the brown person he was sharing responsibilities with.

Ksyrup 01-20-2025 06:01 PM

Like 10 minutes of news, but make sure Wheel of Fortune starts on time!

Ksyrup 01-20-2025 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3455136)
Conservative spin has been to either edit around it so they're not showing it or claim that it's a Roman salute, which is what Mussolini claimed it was when Italy started using it, so that doesn't make it any better.

Pre-Trump he'd already have been on a plane back to South Africa because he's so toxic. Now he gets a defacto promotion by firing the brown person he was sharing responsibilities with.


Yes, the Roman Salute was nicknamed the Fascist Salute in the 20th century, I thought.

JPhillips 01-20-2025 06:05 PM

In a vacuum maybe you could believe the spin, but given his platforming of Nazis, his support of German neo-Nazis, his repeated attacks on people of color, etc...

RainMaker 01-20-2025 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3455139)
In a vacuum maybe you could believe the spin, but given his platforming of Nazis, his support of German neo-Nazis, his repeated attacks on people of color, etc...


Yeah, the guy spends 10 hours a day boosting actually Nazis and his family was part of a Nazi adjacent party back in the day. Maybe he got overly excited in the moment but he knew exactly what he was doing.

JPhillips 01-20-2025 08:17 PM

WHat the fuck is up with this political commercial from Trump during the game?

Edward64 01-20-2025 10:42 PM

Lots of busy lawyers & courts for the foreseeable future.

CrimsonFox 01-20-2025 10:46 PM

Something about don't tickle pheasants

Ksyrup 01-20-2025 11:05 PM

Even the Anti-Defamation League is bowing down. "Awkward gesture" my ass.

RainMaker 01-21-2025 12:24 AM

Back in the 80's and 90' the ADL ran a spy ring on American activists who were protesting apartheid South Africa. They paid police officers and shared the information with various countries and sent veiled threats to protestors. So them running cover for an over Nazi salute is more on brand with what they've become. They haven't been a civil rights organization since like the 60's.

Mota 01-21-2025 05:42 AM

The winners get to write the history books. So I guess that means Nazis, Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were the good guys after all? They were the true heroes of J6, and Elon's Nazi salute shows us exactly what they're all about.

It's going to be a long 4 years.

Edward64 01-21-2025 07:20 AM

I mean ... TBF, I would have looked too. This meme is going to be out there forever


sovereignstar v2 01-21-2025 08:09 AM

Mark, you little motorboatin' sonuvabitch

Atocep 01-21-2025 10:51 AM

I find some slight joy in the fact that nearly all of our employees that had part time telework agreements that Trump just killed voted for him.

Lathum 01-21-2025 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3455214)
I find some slight joy in the fact that nearly all of our employees that had part time telework agreements that Trump just killed voted for him.


I think a lot of people with an "he won't do that to ME" attitude are in for a rude awakening.

Atocep 01-21-2025 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3455215)
I think a lot of people with an "he won't do that to ME" attitude are in for a rude awakening.


This won't last long because Trump doesn't have that level of authority over union members. Until this gets straightened out, though, they can't telework is the directive we were given this morning.

miami_fan 01-21-2025 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3455214)
I find some slight joy in the fact that nearly all of our employees that had part time telework agreements that Trump just killed voted for him.


A friend of mine just told me about this. She told me that her supervision has already told them that they do not currently have room to house all of the teleworkers at their employment location in St Pete at the moment. Also, the 20-30 folks who need to come in from Orlando to St Pete are not at all pleased by this development. I suggest my fellow vets get those disability claims in sooner rather than later just in case the average wait time goes beyond the current 155 days.

Anyone got some commercial real estate for rent/sale for the federal government to use?

kingfc22 01-21-2025 12:23 PM

Nazi salutes, pardoning criminals who attacked the US Capitol, firing a member of a government department that you had tapped to lead.

All within 24 hours.

We are SO back America! 4 more years to make the world jealous of what we've got.

Noop 01-21-2025 12:32 PM

Where are you getting 4 more years from? I do not think he will ever leave office and nor do i believe democrats will ever get back in power unless we have some sort of collapse people blame on the right or Trump


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