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QuikSand 03-02-2025 01:19 PM

Combine hero TE Gunner Helm?

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/189626...k0QxGYTxadQwhA

Whether intentional or not, interesting path to possible cult status there…

Atocep 03-02-2025 02:37 PM

Ollie Gordon went from 1st round talk last year to having a terrible year and running a 4.6 at the combine. He's also a pain in the ass to deal with according to those around the Oklahoma State program.

albionmoonlight 03-03-2025 10:24 AM

What's the current thinking on how to build an O-line?

Would you prefer five average guys?
Or two average guys, two stars, and one liability?

Atocep 03-03-2025 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3458904)
What's the current thinking on how to build an O-line?

Would you prefer five average guys?
Or two average guys, two stars, and one liability?


Depends on the offense. Any RPO heavy offense has to be solid on the 3 IOL spots. Most teams run some RPO now so it's difficult to punt on a spot on the line anymore. The Bears are a good example. They had 2 above average guys, 2 average guys, and one god awful guy on the interior that was blowing up everything.

BishopMVP 03-04-2025 01:04 AM

Don't tease me like this ESPN
Quote:

Shemar Stewart, Edge, Texas A&M
Regarded as one of the most explosive athletes in the 2025 class, Stewart started his day by jumping 40 inches in the vertical leap and 10-foot-11 in the broad jump. He is a classic "potential over production" prospect, as he recorded only 4.5 sacks during his college career. That has led to mixed reviews from scouts.

Some teams are comfortable trusting the traits and hoping the production eventually catches up to his physical ability, while others question why Stewart didn't finish more. Either way, his movement skills were on full display Thursday, and it's easy to see why he's highly regarded by several teams. Stewart is a polarizing prospect but could be selected as high as the Jets at No. 7 overall. -- Reid
Jets doing that at 7 and passing over a Mason Graham or James Pearce would be delightful.

CrimsonFox 03-05-2025 03:37 AM

So like the Bengals are really making the ultimate kick move with Higgins aren't they...
Got a feeling this will cause a lot of Bengals to pursue other teams when their contacts are up

albionmoonlight 03-05-2025 11:45 AM



There's a lot of "how the game has changed" in this one photo. But the part I just can't get over is whatever inspired them to add the footnote.

cuervo72 03-05-2025 11:53 AM

I'd assume he was the only rookie starter and they wanted to denote those were his college stats.

albionmoonlight 03-05-2025 11:58 AM

Ah--that's it. At least it makes sense now

Ksyrup 03-05-2025 12:23 PM

Tyler Lockett released and DK Metcalf asking for a trade.

Thomkal 03-05-2025 01:59 PM

Ah yes the immortal Timm Rosenbach

Swaggs 03-05-2025 02:06 PM

It's funny how little turnover there used to be on NFL rosters. I bet I'd be more likely to name the starting QBs for each team from this era more accurately than I would for like 4 or 5 years ago. 1989 was right between the release of Tecmo Bowl and Super Tecmo Bowl and I'd bet that 85% of the QBs were the same in both versions (I'd guess closer to 100% of the top 15 on that list played on the same team in both versions).

sovereignstar v2 03-05-2025 02:31 PM

Those TD/INT ratios .....

Edit:

Screenshot-2025-03-05-143838

GrantDawg 03-05-2025 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3459090)
Those TD/INT ratios .....

That and completion percentage. Other than Montana's eye popping (comparatively) 70%, most of these would be bottom of the league now. You only had a handful that broke 60%.

Arles 03-06-2025 11:03 AM

Yeah, there were a lot more INTs when QBs had to be concerned about having their head detached from their body on each play. Just "taking a sack" was a dangerous idea back then.

QuikSand 03-06-2025 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3459076)
There's a lot of "how the game has changed" in this one photo. But the part I just can't get over is whatever inspired them to add the footnote.


I had Randall Cunningham on my fantasy roster that year, but I do recall actually starting Timm R for a few games at some point, either that season or another.

JPhillips 03-06-2025 12:39 PM

I think Ken Anderson should be in the HoF, but comparing his stats to today is comical.

Ksyrup 03-07-2025 12:10 PM

Sanity check here.. am I completely off-base for thinking the Bengals getting rid of a sack machine (granting his wish to seek a trade, at least) on a bad defense so it can sign both #1 and #2 WR is ... wrong? Isn't it much easier to find/replace a #2 WR? Does Cincy think it's going to get Joey Bosa or trade for Garrett? Are they content to lean into high-scoring games with a prolific offense, hoping Burrow is going to pull the vast majority of them out as wins?

Danny 03-07-2025 12:17 PM

Bengals have done an absolute piss poor job of building around a top 5 elite future hall of fame QB and a top 5 future hall of fame elite WR.

Ksyrup 03-07-2025 12:18 PM

And oh yeah I forgot, one of their other DEs retired!

larrymcg421 03-07-2025 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3459227)
Bengals have done an absolute piss poor job of building around a top 5 elite future hall of fame QB and a top 5 future hall of fame elite WR.


Bengals remind me of the 80s-90s Dolphins teams.

QuikSand 03-07-2025 12:55 PM

definitely a similar vibe

QuikSand 03-07-2025 12:56 PM

buying Bengals QB/WR/WR/RB stock for fantasy purposes, though... see a lot of 42-38 shootouts in their near future, and that's fantasy/DFS gold baby

JPhillips 03-07-2025 02:18 PM

Cincy should be able to handle Trey leaving, but all of the draft picks they've thrown at the d-line have been disappointing and now they don't have anything there.

Atocep 03-07-2025 02:27 PM

The Bengals cap situation seems like a mess considering the number of holes on the roster. I don't think paying Burrow, Chase, and Higgins a combined $94 mil is a good business decision but they seem dead set on not letting Higgins walk. The worst thing you can do as a mediocre team is start falling in love with your own free agents and it seems like both the Bengals and Cowboys have been guilty of that.

flere-imsaho 03-07-2025 03:06 PM

Honestly, I'm kind of OK with it. You've got an Elite QB, and Elite WR1, and a WR2 who appears to tie it all together. Lean into it. Score bazillions of points. It'll be entertaining. And find a DC who's both a) pretty good at getting more out of mediocre talent than he should and b) can install a bend-but-not-break defense.

Danny 03-07-2025 03:10 PM

Seems foolish to me. Look at what Mahomes and Allen do without great receiving talent. Burrow is good enough to get a lot out of decent and much cheaper receivers.

JPhillips 03-07-2025 03:36 PM

The cap is only a problem if they let it be a problem. The Eagles have signed 8 big contracts since the Hurts extension, the Bengals have signed 1 since the Burrow extension.

Ksyrup 03-07-2025 06:04 PM

Geno Smith to the Raiders?!?! For a third?

Are the Seahawks going all in on Sam Howell, or making a play for Darnold, or trading up for a QB in a mediocre draft class?

Atocep 03-07-2025 06:22 PM

A legit starting qb that's probably among the upper half of starters for a 3rd seems like a steal.

Danny 03-07-2025 06:30 PM

Ill take it! Way better than Minshew or AOC. Still need a qb of the future via the draft but gives a year if they don't like anyone this year.

JPhillips 03-08-2025 10:08 AM

Woah.

Quote:

Former Texas star WR and Chiefs WR Xavier Worthy was arrested Friday Night in Williamson County, TX.

Charges: Criminal charge of assault against a family or household member by impeding their breathing or circulation.

Ksyrup 03-08-2025 11:53 AM

Chiefs are 2 for 2 these past 2 years on WR draft picks/arrests.

bhlloy 03-08-2025 07:43 PM

He's not being charged, after talking with witnesses. Take whatever conclusion from that you will.

Ksyrup 03-08-2025 09:13 PM

He was just giving a neck massage.

BishopMVP 03-08-2025 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3459258)
A legit starting qb that's probably among the upper half of starters for a 3rd seems like a steal.


I don't disagree on the steal part, but top 16 seems like a stretch? 21 TD's & 15 picks with JSN, DK & Lockett isn't great.

bhlloy 03-08-2025 10:35 PM

Counterpoint - over 70% completion rating and 4300 yard both top 5 in the league. His TD/INT numbers took a hit but throwing it that often successfully down the field is very decent.

He's solidly in the mushy middle, but I wouldn't call probably top 16 a stretch.

Danny 03-08-2025 11:54 PM

I have Geno in the 10-15 range. In a down year he was sti 13th according to PFF. And while had had good targets, he had a terrible offensive line.

Ksyrup 03-09-2025 11:09 AM

Garrett got his bag.

I'm hoping for a Von Miller reunion in Denver. For reasonable money of course.

flere-imsaho 03-09-2025 02:38 PM

Geno was playing on hard mode last year. SEA's running game and defense were both pretty lackluster, so he was having to throw into high leverage situations a lot.

Can I pick 16 QBs I'd rather have than Smith?

YES (12):
Allen
Lamar
Mahomes
Burrow
Purdy
Hurts
Daniels
Herbert
Love
Mayfield
Stafford
Maye

MAYBE (7):
Murray
Goff
Darnold
Rodgers
Caleb
Dak
Nix

albionmoonlight 03-09-2025 03:27 PM

Going to be interesting to see how the Garrett contract affects the Hendrickson negotiations with whatever team he gets traded to/extended by.

I am sure that the teams are going to want to classify the Garrett contract as one-of-one because he's just that good. And Hendrickson, of course, is going to expect that to be the new starting point for premium edge players and want to come in maybe a shade below it.

I think that it certainly means that he's not coming back to Cinci. Will be interesting to see how much he ends up getting from his new team

Danny 03-09-2025 03:30 PM

I am glad the raiders redid Crosby before these other deals. Parsons also likely to want Garrett money.

albionmoonlight 03-09-2025 03:35 PM

Jerry's going to do the same thing with Parsons that he did with Dak. Wait for everyone else to sign and drive the market as high as possible and only then give in and sign the guy for more than he would have had to at the beginning.

miami_fan 03-09-2025 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3459252)
The cap is only a problem if they let it be a problem. The Eagles have signed 8 big contracts since the Hurts extension, the Bengals have signed 1 since the Burrow extension.


This.

I don't know if they should resign Higgins, Hendrickson or even Chase. I do know they should not be in a situation where they have to resign all three within the next 12 months or so. Unless the team is hoping for a subpar season or worse an injury plagued one, guys at this level do not get cheaper the longer you wait.

miami_fan 03-09-2025 06:56 PM

DK Metcalf to the Steelers for a 2nd rounder.

GrantDawg 03-09-2025 06:57 PM

Josh Allen reupped for a few gajillion dollars, and Metcalf to the Steelers for a 2nd and a new contract.

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JPhillips 03-09-2025 06:57 PM

Good pickup for Pitt, but they still need a QB.

Danny 03-09-2025 07:00 PM

DJ got ridiculous money seems too rich for me

miami_fan 03-09-2025 07:52 PM

Better receiver? DJ Metcalf or Tee Higgins?;)

JonInMiddleGA 03-09-2025 08:11 PM

Metcalf and Pickens in the same WR room. What could possibly go wrong with such maturity in the same place?


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