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stevew 02-08-2024 12:07 PM

Curious as to how the Pistons field a roster tonight. I think they’re +7 players added as of this moment and 4-5 out the door. Guessing they only have about 8 guys

Lathum 02-08-2024 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3425880)
Curious as to how the Pistons field a roster tonight. I think they’re +7 players added as of this moment and 4-5 out the door. Guessing they only have about 8 guys


will probably cost them a win

bob 02-08-2024 04:52 PM

From Bill Simmons:

“Not sure Detroit should be allowed to make trades, sign free agents or hire coaches.”

Also seen online:

"Should the Detroit Pistons kill 5 of their players to trigger a disaster draft to improve their roster?"

Ghost Econ 02-08-2024 08:10 PM

The Lions had more wins than the Pistons in 2023, 11 to 10.
Currently, the Pistons have more wins in 2024, 4 to 3.

stevew 02-09-2024 12:21 AM

Break up the Pistons!

miami_fan 02-09-2024 12:52 PM

I have an embarrassing admission to make. Apologies to Coaches John Thompson, Dean Smith, even you Coach K

It is almost Valentine's Day and I have not watched one complete HALF of men's college basketball on TV. I have been to a couple of USF games in person but that has been about it on the men's side. I missed not playing the men's bracket last year so I will play one this year. Hopefully I have the same luck as the proverbial office secretary who knew nothing about college basketball every year but won the pool because she loved the shade of Carolina blue.

Atocep 03-05-2024 04:37 PM

It looks like WVU will be hiring Mark Byington from JMU as their next coach.

Ksyrup 03-07-2024 05:24 PM

Did a double-take when I scrolled through my Score app college basketball scores just now.

At the half, Pepperdine 56, Pacific 9.

It was 26-0 before Pacific scored.

And while Pacific sucks (6-25), it's not like Pepperdine is good (12-19).

Yikes.

cartman 03-08-2024 08:27 AM

Luka Doncic is having quite the run of games. 5 straight 30 point triple doubles (2nd player to ever do that), with the last 4 being 35 point triple doubles (first player to ever do that).

cartman 03-09-2024 10:43 PM

make that 6 straight 30 point triple doubles and 5 straight 35 point triple doubles

stevew 03-10-2024 04:46 AM

Lemme guess, the Mavs are 2-4 and giving up an average of 118 points in those games?

stevew 03-10-2024 04:48 AM

Ok just checked and it was 3-3 and 117.2ppg allowed. < thisclose >

SirFozzie 03-10-2024 11:43 AM

Saw something about how some folks are thinking the NCAA tournament should go to 80 teams with the lowest 32 teams playing a first round game, and 48 teams advancing directly to the round of 64.

Mainly, this is at the behest of the big conferences, who want an ever bigger share of March Madness money to teams that are only like .500, but they do have a point in that less then a fifth of the teams qualify for the tournament.

However. Half the fun of March Madness is the teams we know very little about (nationally speaking) pulling off the upsets and breaking everyone's brackets.. So, I've come up with a compromise that hopefully gives the majors and mid majors what they want, while making sure the smaller teams get a fair shake (and also gives the NCAA more money to send out).

All conference champions (big or small) get put in the round of 64 automatically, along with the top at-large teams to make up the 48 teams.

That means 32 at-large teams get placed in the NCAA Tournament first round, but the losers in this round automatically get a seed in the NIT.

So, the NCAA has an additional 12 games to sell in their premier product (reminder, we're at the field of 68 now), the NIT gets a small boost because teams will want to end their season on a high after losing in the tournament, and the big and mid-major conferences will get a few more bids.

(Just to break this down:

Auto advancing to Round of 64: 32 Conference Champions (current amount), 16 At-Large Teams

Playing in NCAA Tournament First Round: 32 At-Large Teams)

One hidden benefit is that it makes mid-major and major conference tournaments a bit more impactful when one or both teams are already in the projected field. Win the tournament, automatically get placed in the round of 64 instead of having to play in the first round.

JPhillips 03-10-2024 11:57 AM

Let's go Morehead State Eagles. First into the tourny!

JonInMiddleGA 03-10-2024 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3428184)
the NIT gets a small boost because teams will want to end their season on a high after losing in the tournament


After seeing the Ole Miss men play basketball in the past six weeks I question how many teams really care about making the tournament, much less winning a meaningless game.

I've heard two coaches in the past week - one men and one women - basically question whether their players care about anything other than NIL money now (and one of those has a team going dancin)

flere-imsaho 03-10-2024 12:55 PM

That seems a bit extreme. There are plenty (probably most) of kids on these teams for whom this will be their last game. I expect the majority care.

JonInMiddleGA 03-10-2024 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3428193)
That seems a bit extreme. There are plenty (probably most) of kids on these teams for whom this will be their last game. I expect the majority care.


You obviously haven't seen that Ole Miss team lately lol (might as well laugh, crying would do no good)

After an absolutely embarrassing performance yesterday Chris Beard spent a chunk of his postgame talking about hoping to work out ways to give refunds to everyone who attended.

Ksyrup 03-10-2024 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3428184)
the NIT gets a small boost because teams will want to end their season on a high after losing in the tournament


Eastern Kentucky turned down an invitation to the NIT.

miami_fan 03-11-2024 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3428171)
Lemme guess, the Mavs are 2-4 and giving up an average of 118 points in those games?


I don't think Luca is the reason the Mavs were 3-3 during that stretch nor do I think he is the reason for their horrible defense. But I get the Luca hate when people bring up his triple doubles. Sorry, we made the call back in 2017 that triple doubles are not a thing.

Atocep 03-11-2024 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3428255)
I don't think Luca is the reason the Mavs were 3-3 during that stretch nor do I think he is the reason for their horrible defense. But I get the Luca hate when people bring up his triple doubles. Sorry, we made the call back in 2017 that triple doubles are not a thing.


Any team playing Hardaway, Josh Green, Derrick Jones, and PJ Washington heavy minutes has no hope defensively.

Atocep 03-11-2024 05:25 PM

So Porter Moser's agent tried to use the DePaul opening to leverage an extension with OU. The problem was OU wasn't sure they wanted Porter Moser and called his bluff. Moser may be out of a job entirely because he didn't really want the DePaul job. He just wanted more money and security.

JonInMiddleGA 03-15-2024 01:08 PM

Death, taxes, and Rick Barnes teams shitting the bed in March.

JonInMiddleGA 03-15-2024 01:12 PM

Juwan Howard officially fired at Michigan

JonInMiddleGA 03-15-2024 06:03 PM

I saw something today that referenced how "the top two 'major conference" NET-rated teams that didn't make the NCAA tournament now get auto-bids to the NIT"

When did that become a thing?

Last I knew was something like "regular season champion that loses conference tournament gets auto-bid"

bronconick 03-15-2024 06:22 PM

Last October, I think. Having UAB, North Texas and Utah Valley make the Semis last year caused an instant reaction, I assume.

Vegas Vic 03-17-2024 12:57 PM


Lathum 03-17-2024 01:03 PM

What a gut punch for Brown...

Ksyrup 03-17-2024 03:08 PM

Nothing could be worse than what happened to Kent State yesterday. Tip in with about 6 seconds left to take a 1 point lead, but one of their guys thinks they're still down and fouls the guy taking the inbounds pass who is just trying to race down court to get off a shot (he must have thought he was trying to escape the foul or something, total brain malfunction). He hits the 2 FTs, and Kent State loses.

Lathum 03-17-2024 03:15 PM

"Did anyone say an old pacer?"

that was funny.

Atocep 03-17-2024 03:40 PM

The coaching carousel in college basketball is going to be crazy this year. Michigan, Ohio State (just made their hire), Louisville, WVU, Stanford, Oklahoma State, Vandy, and Washington are all open. Iowa might open. OU might open up. And Andy Enfield reportedly wants to get back east and would be open to leaving USC.

There's a lot overlap with candidates these schools are interested in as well. Dusty May at FAU, Darian DeVries at Drake, Josh Shertz at Indiana State, Mark Byington at JMU, Kyle Smith at Wazzu, Dustin Kerns at College of Charleston, Will Wade at McNeese, and others make for a pretty deep group of potential coaches.

Ohio State named their interim as the full time guy. Vandy looks like they've locked in on Chris Mack. Louisville wants to take a swing a Scott Drew before they move down their list.

Byington still seems to be the likely hire at WVU but a deal isn't done. They want to see if May or someone else higher on their list ends up in play.

Thomkal 03-17-2024 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3428850)
The coaching carousel in college basketball is going to be crazy this year. Michigan, Ohio State (just made their hire), Louisville, WVU, Stanford, Oklahoma State, Vandy, and Washington are all open. Iowa might open. OU might open up. And Andy Enfield reportedly wants to get back east and would be open to leaving USC.

There's a lot overlap with candidates these schools are interested in as well. Dusty May at FAU, Darian DeVries at Drake, Josh Shertz at Indiana State, Mark Byington at JMU, Kyle Smith at Wazzu, Dustin Kerns at College of Charleston, Will Wade at McNeese, and others make for a pretty deep group of potential coaches.

Ohio State named their interim as the full time guy. Vandy looks like they've locked in on Chris Mack. Louisville wants to take a swing a Scott Drew before they move down their list.


Byington still seems to be the likely hire at WVU but a deal isn't done. They want to see if May or someone else higher on their list ends up in play.



Coastal carolina finally moved on from the Cliff Ellis era by going with an unknown head coach (to me at least) Justin Grey from Western carolina. hope it works out

Atocep 03-17-2024 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3428853)
Coastal carolina finally moved on from the Cliff Ellis era by going with an unknown head coach (to me at least) Justin Grey from Western carolina. hop e it works out


Cliff Ellis gets to retire back to his sarcophagus.

Thomkal 03-17-2024 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3428856)
Cliff Ellis gets to retire back to his sarcophagus.



Yeah he was looking pretty old there at the end

Swaggs 03-17-2024 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3428850)
The coaching carousel in college basketball is going to be crazy this year. Michigan, Ohio State (just made their hire), Louisville, WVU, Stanford, Oklahoma State, Vandy, and Washington are all open. Iowa might open. OU might open up. And Andy Enfield reportedly wants to get back east and would be open to leaving USC.

There's a lot overlap with candidates these schools are interested in as well. Dusty May at FAU, Darian DeVries at Drake, Josh Shertz at Indiana State, Mark Byington at JMU, Kyle Smith at Wazzu, Dustin Kerns at College of Charleston, Will Wade at McNeese, and others make for a pretty deep group of potential coaches.

Ohio State named their interim as the full time guy. Vandy looks like they've locked in on Chris Mack. Louisville wants to take a swing a Scott Drew before they move down their list.

Byington still seems to be the likely hire at WVU but a deal isn't done. They want to see if May or someone else higher on their list ends up in play.


I really like the sound of DeVries for WVU. Byington makes sense for us with him having good DC connections. I am intrigued at the possibility of Shaheen Holloway and the NYC connections, too.

RainMaker 03-17-2024 05:25 PM

Wisconsin got screwed in their draw.

JonInMiddleGA 03-17-2024 05:28 PM

Bracket committee couldn't resist setting up Texas vs Rick Barnes.

Of course for that to happen is that two teams known for bad March outcomes have to avoid crapping the bed beforehand.

That feels like a stretch.

Ksyrup 03-17-2024 05:38 PM

UK gets a 3 seed against a team that scored 100+ points twice and shoots the 3.

Of course, as some have pointed out, every team can shoot the 3 aganst UK once they step on the court with UK.

RainMaker 03-17-2024 05:39 PM

Also the committee didn't think much of the Big East.

cartman 03-17-2024 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3428864)
Bracket committee couldn't resist setting up Texas vs Rick Barnes.


That's about the only reason I could think of that got Texas a 7 seed.

JonInMiddleGA 03-17-2024 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 3428868)
That's about the only reason I could think of that got Texas a 7 seed.


That's basically where NET had them, give or take.

They're 30 and one team ahead of them (Indiana State) didn't make the tournament. So when you get into separating conference teams & stuff, a +/- 1 seed from your NET isn't really much of a reach.

A realization that came for me when looking at those NET ratings. Georgia is #100, Miami is #101, Georgia Tech was #127, Michigan (all 8-24 of 'em) was #133.

There's only 362 teams, meaning that 2 of those are in the top 1/3rd of available teams ... and both of them pretty much sucked. There's an awful lot of REALLY shitty teams in the comically oversized "D1"

Ksyrup 03-17-2024 06:35 PM

Hell, FSU was 96. They gave up over 100 and lost to LOUISVILLE...

RainMaker 03-17-2024 07:12 PM

Is this the first year that the play-in game is for a 10 seed? I know some surprise conference champs through a wrench onto things but that seems to he the highest I can ever remember.

RainMaker 03-17-2024 07:16 PM

Don't see many snubs outside of Virginia having no business in the tournament. Not sure how they pulled that off.

JonInMiddleGA 03-17-2024 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3428879)
Don't see many snubs outside of Virginia having no business in the tournament. Not sure how they pulled that off.


I agree ... and yet if they win the play-in I'll likely put them through to the S16.

Atocep 03-17-2024 09:55 PM

Some really bad decisions by the committee this year. The Virginia selection makes no sense. OU, Seton Hall, Indiana State, or St Johns would have all been better picks. Then New Mexico as an 11 seed? Kansas as a 4? Auburn as a 4? Below Kentucky? They should have been in play for a 1.

The bubble shank with a couple late bid steals, but they choose one of the worst options for that last spot. Then the seeding this year is a mess.

RainMaker 03-17-2024 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3428890)
Some really bad decisions by the committee this year. The Virginia selection makes no sense. OU, Seton Hall, Indiana State, or St Johns would have all been better picks. Then New Mexico as an 11 seed? Kansas as a 4? Auburn as a 4? Below Kentucky? They should have been in play for a 1.

The bubble shank with a couple late bid steals, but they choose one of the worst options for that last spot. Then the seeding this year is a mess.


I don't get their hate toward the Big East. By almost all the computer rankings, it was the 2nd or 3rd strongest conference.

JonInMiddleGA 03-17-2024 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3428890)
Auburn as a 4? Below Kentucky? They should have been in play for a 1.


Only if NET ranking is all you go by.

The 3-7 vs Quad 1 teams killed Auburn, and them any higher than a 3 would have been a joke.

Atocep 03-17-2024 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3428894)
Only if NET ranking is all you go by.


Kenpom had them 4th and Kentucky 19th. T-Rank has them 5th and Kentucky 25th. BPI has them 4th and Kentucky 21st. Massey has them 5th and Kentucky 17th.

JonInMiddleGA 03-17-2024 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3428895)
Kenpom had them 4th and Kentucky 19th. T-Rank has them 5th and Kentucky 25th. BPI has them 4th and Kentucky 21st. Massey has them 5th and Kentucky 17th.


Allow me to rephrase: only if you consider computer ratings and nothing else.

3-7 vs Quad 1 (or equivalent) don't lie.

I'm not sure how many SEC teams get out of the first weekend tbh, I think the conference is soft as Charmin.

RainMaker 03-18-2024 12:59 AM

Speaking of the SEC, has there been any word about that Florida player? Just saw the aftermath and that looked like a bad one.

JonInMiddleGA 03-18-2024 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3428897)
Speaking of the SEC, has there been any word about that Florida player? Just saw the aftermath and that looked like a bad one.


from one of the si dot com UF fan sites

Quote:

Gators center Micah Handlogten is expected to undergo surgery later Sunday at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tenn., according to Florida head coach Todd Golden, after suffering a lower left leg fracture against Auburn in the 2023-24 SEC Championship.

Handlogten posted an update to X, the social media app formerly known as Twitter, after the game, thanking fans for their good wishes after he left the matchup, seemingly remaining in high spirits.

RainMaker 03-18-2024 01:56 AM

Well that's positive news I guess considering the leg break was obvious. Saw the blood and think that might have been a compound fracture which is the one injury that makes my blood curl.

JonInMiddleGA 03-18-2024 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3428899)
Well that's positive news I guess considering the leg break was obvious. Saw the blood and think that might have been a compound fracture which is the one injury that makes my blood curl.


NGL, I didn't see it live and I actively avoided anything that might lead to me seeing it.

I'm not ... overly squeamish IMO, I simply don't feel any need to see that sort of injury (I had assumed compound fracture due to the blood references as well) when I don't have to

stevew 03-18-2024 02:36 AM

Has anyone gone to the NCAA tournament and was it fun? I can probably do the early session in Pitts on Thurs. although it’s Akron at Creighton and Oregon at South Carolina. Definitely don’t know any players participating.

miami_fan 03-18-2024 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3428690)
I saw something today that referenced how "the top two 'major conference" NET-rated teams that didn't make the NCAA tournament now get auto-bids to the NIT"

When did that become a thing?

Last I knew was something like "regular season champion that loses conference tournament gets auto-bid"


Somebody posted this info earlier in this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3416189)
No NIT automatic bids for regular-season conference champs - ESPN


Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams -- based on the NET rankings -- from each of major six conferences, the Atlantic Coast, the Big East, the Big Ten, the Big 12, the Pac-12 and the Southeastern.

The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA tournament from each conference, regardless of win-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT.


;)

molson 03-18-2024 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3428902)
Has anyone gone to the NCAA tournament and was it fun? I can probably do the early session in Pitts on Thurs. although it’s Akron at Creighton and Oregon at South Carolina. Definitely don’t know any players participating.


I went in Vegas last year, and in Syracuse years ago. I thought it really fun. I couldn't name a college basketball player. College basketball games are a lot shorter and fast-paced than other sports, the crowds of people representing each school is fun to see, you may possibly see a future-famous moment play out, you can look back in 20 years and realize, "hey, I saw modern NBA superstar X at the NCAA tournament back when the NCAA was a thing".

Atocep 03-18-2024 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3428902)
Has anyone gone to the NCAA tournament and was it fun? I can probably do the early session in Pitts on Thurs. although it’s Akron at Creighton and Oregon at South Carolina. Definitely don’t know any players participating.


I went to the Phil Knight classic last year with my son. Obviously not the NCAAs, but a very similar setup. We had a blast. We watched Purdue, UNC, WVU, Iowa State and others play. I'd do it again without hesitation.

miami_fan 03-18-2024 10:25 AM

It really took three quarters of the NBA season for this to happen?! I would have thought that people would have gone through all the names on different roster to make sure the appropriate jersey swaps took place.

The Magic posted (and deleted) a suggestive Gradey Dick jersey photo

I definitely want to know how the social media person was told to take that tweet down and who said it. :lol:

sovereignstar v2 03-18-2024 10:09 PM

Scary to think what Anthony Edwards will be in another few years

stevew 03-18-2024 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3429005)
Scary to think what Anthony Edwards will be in another few years


Member of the Lakers?

sovereignstar v2 03-19-2024 08:08 AM



Ksyrup 03-19-2024 07:32 PM

I guess Kansas sure learned a lesson from FSU getting fucked in the CFP. Sunday, Kansas reported a fully healthy team and got a 4 seed. Today, one of their best players is out for the rest of the season. Curious timing...

JonInMiddleGA 03-19-2024 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3429086)
I guess Kansas sure learned a lesson from FSU getting fucked in the CFP. Sunday, Kansas reported a fully healthy team and got a 4 seed. Today, one of their best players is out for the rest of the season. Curious timing...


Wellllll ... he'd just missed the conference tournament and had missed half the games down the stretch prior, so it's not like anyone didn't know there could be problems.

Hell, I knew enough about the KU injury situation that it was one of two reasons I was holding up on finishing my bracket until things were more clear. And I've barely paid attention

Ksyrup 03-19-2024 08:43 PM

Well, I saw something where both Self and one of their players said they'd be getting both guys back full strength on Monday (referring also to Dickinson). He seemed much more confident before Selection Sunday than after the seeding was done. Funny.

Atocep 03-19-2024 09:16 PM

The selection committee should be forced to watch this game on repeat.

JonInMiddleGA 03-19-2024 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3429102)
The selection committee should be forced to watch this game on repeat.


But there are idiots who want to expand the tournament.

My God, there's barely 20-30 teams that are particularly good as it is. And the number & quality are just going to keep getting worse and worse.

Ghost Econ 03-20-2024 09:41 AM

UVa baseball scored 15 runs last night.
UVa basketball made 14 FG last night.

Ksyrup 03-20-2024 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3429103)
But there are idiots who want to expand the tournament.

My God, there's barely 20-30 teams that are particularly good as it is. And the number & quality are just going to keep getting worse and worse.


I even saw something along the lines of what the P5/4/2 (?) want to do with CFB which is restrict the tournament to just teams from the big conferences. So basically, you'd have a bunch of NIT-like games mixed in with games between the better teams, a lot of whom would have already played the teams in the tournament (either in conference, or as part of some challenge, or just because they happened to be on the schedule that year).

AND they'd be eliminating the entire "Cinderella" storyline from the tournament. Like, are we supposed to buy a 14-18 GT as a "Cinderella" just because they sucked all year but made a run in the tournament? Pure stupidity.

Swaggs 03-20-2024 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3429131)
I even saw something along the lines of what the P5/4/2 (?) want to do with CFB which is restrict the tournament to just teams from the big conferences. So basically, you'd have a bunch of NIT-like games mixed in with games between the better teams, a lot of whom would have already played the teams in the tournament (either in conference, or as part of some challenge, or just because they happened to be on the schedule that year).

AND they'd be eliminating the entire "Cinderella" storyline from the tournament. Like, are we supposed to buy a 14-18 GT as a "Cinderella" just because they sucked all year but made a run in the tournament? Pure stupidity.


The Cinderella element is so huge. I'm 1000x more likely to tune in and watch a one-bid league champ try to knock off Kansas or Kentucky than I am if they are playing a low seeded P5 like Boston College or Oregon State.

Ksyrup 03-20-2024 11:09 AM

Exactly. And it's even more important for casual fans who would seem to be more likely to tune into that kind of game (say, a 2/11 match-up in Round 2) than the typical 4/5 match-up.

jcard 03-21-2024 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3429135)
Exactly. And it's even more important for casual fans who would seem to be more likely to tune into that kind of game (say, a 2/11 match-up in Round 2) than the typical 4/5 match-up.


Presume you mean a 2/10 (or maybe 3/11) matchup? 2/11 would be a REAL surprise!

Ksyrup 03-21-2024 06:47 AM

I knew I should have checked my math!

I know I'm in the extreme minority, but I hate filling out brackets. The older I get, the less I care who wins. I just like to watch. Which is why I generally don't enjoy watching games involving teams I have a rooting interest in.

stevew 03-21-2024 07:15 AM

I picked up a guy at the airport who was in town to see his friend play for Oakland. Check out this statistical oddity guy.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...05/jack-gohlke

Check out that guys stats, he only shoots 3s. Anyways, I’m going to put a few bucks on Oakland tonight. Was going to parlay that with made 3s but apparently we can’t do player props on college here.

jcard 03-21-2024 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3429195)
I knew I should have checked my math!

I know I'm in the extreme minority, but I hate filling out brackets. The older I get, the less I care who wins. I just like to watch. Which is why I generally don't enjoy watching games involving teams I have a rooting interest in.


I thought that maybe you knew something the rest of us did not about round-by-round re-seeding! I was worried that printing out a bracket was going to require an investment in a 3-D printer!

Also—I appreciate you taking my first message in the completely amicable spirit in which it was intended.

Ksyrup 03-21-2024 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3429199)
I picked up a guy at the airport who was in town to see his friend play for Oakland. Check out this statistical oddity guy.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...05/jack-gohlke

Check out that guys stats, he only shoots 3s. Anyways, I’m going to put a few bucks on Oakland tonight. Was going to parlay that with made 3s but apparently we can’t do player props on college here.


I didn't have the guts to pick a UK upset, but Oakland put up some big numbers in a couple games and shoot 3s well. It very well could happen. UK gives up like 90 points a game in losses. Their D sucks.

sovereignstar v2 03-21-2024 09:43 AM

I haven't filled out a bracket in 20 years. Kind of ruins the experience for me as I'd rather just cheer on who I want, usually the underdogs

NobodyHere 03-21-2024 09:56 AM

I play a game where you get assigned random teams and you win money when they win. It lets me root for teams I might not root for otherwise. And I know nothing about college basketball so I feel at a disadvantage when filling out brackets.

Ghost Econ 03-21-2024 12:55 PM

Why is it so hard to have a multi view in the Max app? Why do I have to download a separate NCAA app?

Lathum 03-21-2024 01:02 PM

Looks like I will be out of the Buffett bracket after the first game.

sovereignstar v2 03-21-2024 02:05 PM

It's really hard to believe there are people that think automatic bids should be looked at, but sure enough dinosaurs like Rick Pitino and Tom Izzo are on board. Please retire and go away

JonInMiddleGA 03-21-2024 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3429225)
It's really hard to believe there are people that think automatic bids should be looked at, but sure enough dinosaurs like Rick Pitino and Tom Izzo are on board. Please retire and go away


Pare off about 100-150 teams from the comically bloated "D1" and maybe that wouldn't be needed.

But with the silliness that has come with adding anything & everything to the top tier, it's a valid idea that's probably overdue.

Kodos 03-21-2024 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3429204)
I haven't filled out a bracket in 20 years. Kind of ruins the experience for me as I'd rather just cheer on who I want, usually the underdogs


Agreed. Also a factor in me quitting fantasy football. Didn't like having to root for guys I don't like, or being disappointed that the wrong player scored for my team.

JonInMiddleGA 03-21-2024 02:48 PM

At this point I do a bracket purely out of ... call it a combination of habit/nostalgia.

I simply don't find myself caring much anymore. College sports is pretty much ruined to me in terms of being able to have a real rooting interest anymore aside from painfully rare circumstances. It's just like most of the other pro sports, I end up hoping the winners are whichever team I dislike the least.

Hardly any are really likable at this point.

Lathum 03-21-2024 05:55 PM

Hell of a comeback by Dayton, but man, up 3 with 6 fouls they have to foul at the end and not give 2 looks from behind the line.

sovereignstar v2 03-21-2024 07:48 PM

Oakland looking good in postseason

Ksyrup 03-21-2024 07:48 PM

I'm hardly ever right, but I saw this game coming for UK a mile away. That might win, but this is exactly what I expected looking at this matchup.

Kodos 03-21-2024 08:06 PM

Go Oakland!

stevew 03-21-2024 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3429199)
I picked up a guy at the airport who was in town to see his friend play for Oakland. Check out this statistical oddity guy.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...05/jack-gohlke

Check out that guys stats, he only shoots 3s. Anyways, I’m going to put a few bucks on Oakland tonight. Was going to parlay that with made 3s but apparently we can’t do player props on college here.


10-19 from 3

stevew 03-21-2024 08:18 PM

Oakland went down to +575 when I was going to get them so I ended up passing.

sovereignstar v2 03-21-2024 08:27 PM

These damn auto qualifiers. Give me St. Johns!

miami_fan 03-21-2024 08:29 PM

Kentucky has to depend on an OOB play drawn up by John Calipari?

bronconick 03-21-2024 08:41 PM

If you want to go to the NCAA tourney for cheap, a whole lot of folks wearing blue are currently dumping their tickets for Saturday in Pittsburgh

molson 03-21-2024 08:42 PM

I learned 5 minutes ago that this Oakland is in Michigan, but that was still cool.

Ksyrup 03-21-2024 08:45 PM

Cal owned the one-and-done recruiting style, now he owns one-and-done tournament style.

Ksyrup 03-21-2024 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3429266)
I learned 5 minutes ago that this Oakland is in Michigan, but that was still cool.


Yeah, I have semi-good memories of Oakland. Caitlin won her last college SB game pitching there, I have family all around the area that got to watch her that weekend. Then they overused her the next day in a DH knowing she needed surgery at the end of the year, and after that weekend, she was never the same and limped (literally) to a shitty end to her career over the following 5-6 weeks.

And oddly enough, that DH was 3 years ago yesterday.

Atocep 03-21-2024 09:14 PM

My bracket is already awful, but Oakland over Kentucky was an easy call.

A guy like Gohlke can get on a heater. I don't trust freshmen backcourts in March and, overall, I didn't think this Kentucky team was that good. Tre Mitchell is soft was warm butter.

RainMaker 03-22-2024 12:12 AM

Shame how the Kansas - Samford game ended. That was an incredible block and the best play of the tournament.

bob 03-22-2024 06:16 AM

I had flashbacks from high school watching that play. I wasn't huge, but big enough for south georgia basketball (6'5"). I'd probably get 2 - 3 foul called on me a game that were nothing but the refs anticipating a foul but no contact occurred.

Ksyrup 03-22-2024 07:09 AM

Funny reading all of the Calipari buyout stuff. $33M is a huge number for an SEC school that's not a FB powerhouse. Add in a buyout for whoever they hire plus the next huge contract and they're probably looking at upwards of $50M+ for the next coach.

Lathum 03-22-2024 08:22 AM

Totally agree with Few on this one. Everyone has a smartphone, if you are that interested watch it there.

Few unhappy with Oakland-UK on big screens during Zags' game - ESPN


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