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Atocep 12-03-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3450731)
How are those protest votes working out?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/02/w...uguration.html


The guy that helped arrange the protest votes in Michigan going on CNN a couple of weeks ago saying Biden has to do something before Trump takes office after bragging that he played a role in dems losing was wild.

Lathum 12-03-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3450743)
Given the number of people that didn't vote, along with those who voted for Trump not as protest, getting exercised about protest votes is ludicrous. Talk about majoring in the minors.


What can I say. I like to see people getting what they deserve.

I am gonna laugh my ass off when all these hillbillies who don't understand the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing lose their benefits.

cuervo72 12-03-2024 12:31 PM

Not Trump, but maybe worth noting.

https://amp.newsobserver.com/news/po...296431214.html
@mjsdc.bsky.social on Bluesky

JPhillips 12-03-2024 01:09 PM

Democracy doesn't work if only one party is permitted to wield power.

Atocep 12-03-2024 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3450769)
Democracy doesn't work if only one party is permitted to wield power.


Dems as a whole, from voters to politicians, haven't gotten the memo on this. Trump is going to walk all over the norms while laughing at Biden trying to stick to them.

JPhillips 12-03-2024 02:29 PM

And all of the fucking Dems now calling for bipartisan solutions.

Trump is a threat or he isn't but he can't be both.

JPhillips 12-03-2024 07:37 PM

dola

This is weird. Trump's pick to head the DEA has withdrawn because he says he has a lot of unfinished work to do as a FL sheriff.

kingfc22 12-03-2024 09:02 PM

Code for I don’t want them digging into my past.

RainMaker 12-04-2024 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3450761)
What can I say. I like to see people getting what they deserve.

I am gonna laugh my ass off when all these hillbillies who don't understand the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing lose their benefits.


Seems like you never really cared for those issues or people at all and just treat this like a game where you're now crying that your team lost.

Edward64 12-04-2024 04:20 AM

Basically, Hegseth's confirmation is going to be bumpy and not a given. But what's interesting in the article are the possible alternatives

Hegseth future in doubt as even Trump allies raise questions | CNN Politics
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Trump’s allies involved in the transition process have been compiling a list of alternative candidates in recent days in the event Hegseth’s road to confirmation appears destined to implode, multiple sources familiar with the discussions told CNN. (Joni) Ernst and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis are among the names under consideration.
Didn't know who Ernst is, her wiki page ...

Joni Ernst - Wikipedia

Mota 12-04-2024 07:20 AM

Rainmaker, if you thought the Dems were committing genocide, this isn't looking very good for the people in Gaza starting Jan 20th.

hxxps://nationalpost.com/news/world/israel-middle-east/hell-to-pay-if-hamas-doesnt-release-hostages-by-inauguration-day-trump-says

Lathum 12-04-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3450825)
Seems like you never really cared for those issues or people at all and just treat this like a game where you're now crying that your team lost.


I voted for the candidate who didn't promise to let Bibi turn Gaza to glass so his son in law could then develop it into waterfront condos but tell me again how I don't care.

Mota 12-04-2024 08:57 AM

A little tip on how not to be the enemy of the world, December edition:
Don't tell other country leaders that you're going to annex them, even if it's a joke.
Also don't post AI generated pics on Truth Social of you standing over their flag to follow up the "joke".

Swaggs 12-04-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mota (Post 3450840)
A little tip on how not to be the enemy of the world, December edition:
Don't tell other country leaders that you're going to annex them, even if it's a joke.
Also don't post AI generated pics on Truth Social of you standing over their flag to follow up the "joke".


Not much of surprise, thought. Trump enjoys humiliating others that try to suck up to him. This is a FU to Trudeau, who came down to Florida to try to get in his good graces.

RainMaker 12-04-2024 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3450831)
I voted for the candidate who didn't promise to let Bibi turn Gaza to glass so his son in law could then develop it into waterfront condos but tell me again how I don't care.


Jill Stein?

JPhillips 12-04-2024 03:45 PM

Trump and DeSantis have apparently talked about SecDef and Lara Trump being appointed to Rubio's Senate seat. Everything is a corrupt deal for these folks.

GrantDawg 12-04-2024 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3450879)
Trump and DeSantis have apparently talked about SecDef and Lara Trump being appointed to Rubio's Senate seat. Everything is a corrupt deal for these folks.

That feels right. Desantis gets a position probably better than the Senate to prepare for a possible run in 2028, and Trump only puts him in the administration to get a Trump into the Senate. Yes, everything is a transaction for Trump.

JPhillips 12-04-2024 04:16 PM

Hegseth is telling Senators that he'll stop drinking if he's SecDef.

I mean come on...

Dutch 12-04-2024 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mota (Post 3450840)
A little tip on how not to be the enemy of the world, December edition:
Don't tell other country leaders that you're going to annex them, even if it's a joke.
Also don't post AI generated pics on Truth Social of you standing over their flag to follow up the "joke".


This is pretty much on brand, expect this for the next 4 years. Supporters will find quips like this a light-hearted entertainment and enemies of Trump will be really angry about it.

kingfc22 12-04-2024 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3450879)
Trump and DeSantis have apparently talked about SecDef and Lara Trump being appointed to Rubio's Senate seat. Everything is a corrupt deal for these folks.


But, but, but…she needs to be voted in…this is unconstitutional…

Am I doing this right?

Edward64 12-05-2024 10:05 PM

Looks like Hegseth most probably won't make it.

Access to this page has been denied
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Pete Hegseth’s nomination to serve as secretary of Defense appears doomed despite his fiery declaration that he’s “not going anywhere,” Republicans on Capitol Hill told The Hill on Thursday.

“I think most people do not expect Hegseth to make it,” said one Republican senator. “There’s seven or eight [Republican] votes against him. It’s a matter of time.”

“It’s on the death watch,” the senator added.

And Trump doesn't seem to be pushing it ...

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GOP senators say that President-elect Trump is letting Hegseth twist in the wind and even appeared to undermine his nomination by floating Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) as a possible replacement nominee to head the Pentagon.

Republican senators say that Trump isn’t making calls to GOP senators to save Hegseth’s floundering nomination and instead is throwing more ballast onto a sinking ship by floating DeSantis as a replacement.

Atocep 12-05-2024 10:12 PM

From a service perspective, DeSantis is less qualified than Hegseth. The governor experience at least gives him something beyond that other than Fox and Friends, raping women, and being drunk.

JPhillips 12-06-2024 03:45 PM

GOPers now saying that cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are on the table.

JonInMiddleGA 12-06-2024 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3450879)
Trump and DeSantis have apparently talked about SecDef and Lara Trump being appointed to Rubio's Senate seat. Everything is a corrupt deal for these folks.


That'd be my fn luck.

Lose the best governor in the nation juuuuust as I move to Florida.

Edward64 12-06-2024 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3451092)
That'd be my fn luck.

Lose the best governor in the nation juuuuust as I move to Florida.


I wouldn't worry about it. I'd think Lara Trump will follow in the same footsteps if not even more to the right.

JonInMiddleGA 12-06-2024 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3451095)
I wouldn't worry about it. I'd think Lara Trump will follow in the same footsteps if not even more to the right.


That's Lara to the Senate seat, not the gubernatorial seat though. The LtG takes over by rule through DeSantis term ending in 2027 and while Will is relatively confident in her being fine, I'm more cautious.

Tentatively I'd like to maybe see the current AG Ashley Moody in the spot as the true successor, though I could easily enough see her being drafted to DC before then as well.

Edward64 12-06-2024 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3451102)
That's Lara to the Senate seat, not the gubernatorial seat though. The LtG takes over by rule through DeSantis term ending in 2027 and while Will is relatively confident in her being fine, I'm more cautious.

Tentatively I'd like to maybe see the current AG Ashley Moody in the spot as the true successor, though I could easily enough see her being drafted to DC before then as well.


Ah, sorry. You're right.

Edward64 12-09-2024 04:27 AM

My first thought was why isn't Joe there instead of Trump. I get Zelensky needing to talk to Trump but Macron/William meeting with Trump is a big slight to Joe (or did they ask Joe first and he okayed not being there?).

But then, this does feel like a real transition happening in real time over the 2.5 months. Joe lost, he's a caretaker/lameduck now, it's good to move on with country's business.


Edward64 12-09-2024 04:34 AM

The other thing I realize is Trump seems more careful with what he says/tweets now.

Compared to his first term, it's not near as crazy vs. waking up every 1-2 days to some crazy crap that he said. He seems more guarded, less unnecessarily confrontational, less pettiness etc.

I really hope this keeps up.

Kodos 12-09-2024 05:57 AM

Don’t count on it. The dog may not shit on the rug for a bit.

Edward64 12-09-2024 05:40 PM

Nice summary of NBC interview with Trump and his plan.

Analysis: Trump lays out 100-day plan in interview | CNN Politics

BYU 14 12-10-2024 11:44 AM

And this stands out immediately

Can Trump guarantee tariffs won’t raise prices for American consumers?
"I can’t guarantee anything. I can’t guarantee tomorrow."

He knows damn well they will raise prices and this is just hedging his bet to pass the blame somewhere else when it happens.

Lathum 12-10-2024 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3451424)
Nice summary of NBC interview with Trump and his plan.

Analysis: Trump lays out 100-day plan in interview | CNN Politics


I mean, he literally said he is going to deport US citizens....

Mota 12-10-2024 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3451333)
The other thing I realize is Trump seems more careful with what he says/tweets now.

Compared to his first term, it's not near as crazy vs. waking up every 1-2 days to some crazy crap that he said. He seems more guarded, less unnecessarily confrontational, less pettiness etc.

I really hope this keeps up.


He also threatened Canada's sovereignty again last night by calling the Prime Minister Governor of the State of Canada.

Oh he's not serious, he's just joking. Putin also joked about the Ukraine, and we know how that has turned out.

Plus he doesn't want Canada to be a part of the USA anyways, it would mean the Republicans would never be in power again. They would overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Canada is a much more left-leaning country than the USA. our right wing party is probably the equivalent of the Democrats.

PilotMan 12-10-2024 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3451479)
And this stands out immediately

Can Trump guarantee tariffs won’t raise prices for American consumers?
"I can’t guarantee anything. I can’t guarantee tomorrow."

He knows damn well they will raise prices and this is just hedging his bet to pass the blame somewhere else when it happens.



He'll be your savior, he'll fix literally everything. He'll lower prices, make healthcare better. He'll even love America better than anyone else has ever seen in the history of America. He's made America great, and he'll do it again but.........he can't guarantee anything and he can't even guarantee there will be a tomorrow.



Way to cover your bases there guy.

Edward64 12-11-2024 04:54 AM

Say hello to our new US Ambassador.

Many Ambassadorships are political appointees. But this time, I wonder how Greece feels being a consolation prize for an ex-girlfriend.

Good to be (son of) King

NobodyHere 12-11-2024 07:01 AM

Why does she look so sad?

GrantDawg 12-11-2024 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3451561)
Why does she look so sad?



She heard children laughing and she couldn't put them in her cauldron.

bhlloy 12-11-2024 07:35 AM

Where do we think Stormy will be named the ambassador to?

Ksyrup 12-11-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3451561)
Why does she look so sad?


Most clowns wearing that much makeup look sad.

Atocep 12-12-2024 11:44 AM

LOL

Trump admitted in an interview that there probably isn't anything he can do to lower consumer prices.

kingfc22 12-12-2024 01:10 PM

it's always a con but we knew that already

dubb93 12-12-2024 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3451564)
Most clowns wearing that much makeup look sad.


So long as he controls the Housr, Senate, and the courts he can do whatever he wants. He won’t though because any fix of price gouging would also hurt himself, his family, and his friends. Would be nice if they would just tell the truth for once. Biden didn’t have the stomach for it either but he wouldn’t have been able to accomplish anything without the house and the courts.

JPhillips 12-12-2024 10:06 PM

WSJ is reporting that Trump is exploring the possibility of eliminating the FDIC.

Passacaglia 12-12-2024 10:21 PM

I'm going to need a bigger mattress.

RainMaker 12-12-2024 11:12 PM

Hasn't the government already shown they will bail out any bank? Kind of makes the FDIC pointless.

Edward64 12-13-2024 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3451693)
I'm going to need a bigger mattress.


Nah, eliminating FDIC doesn't mean removing the actual $250k insurance.

Quote:

Advisers have asked the nominees under consideration for the FDIC, as well as the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, if deposit insurance could be absorbed into the Treasury Department
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In a separate plan that has been floated with the transition team, the FDIC, OCC and parts of the Fed would not merge but only one of them would continue to regulate banks, the newspaper said

Nothing wrong with exploring what areas to cut or consolidate. Pretty standard to consider the options when doing a "re-org" (e.g. consolidating areas, removing redundancy etc.), especially if you are brought in promising to cut size/waste.

With that said, they should do something about the sham $250k limit which seems to be subjectively upped at a whim. I do think $250k is okay for regular folks but needs to be higher for small-med-big businesses. So fix it by updating the rules/limits.

flere-imsaho 12-13-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3451701)
Nothing wrong with exploring what areas to cut or consolidate.


In a vacuum, sure. In this instance it's like letting Ben Johnson pick who starts for the Bills' defense this Sunday

Atocep 12-13-2024 10:28 AM

Trump is now praising project 2025. I'm a little surprised he didn't at least wait until after the inauguration to backtrack on the shit he said while campaigning.

PilotMan 12-13-2024 02:08 PM

Gotta gut the FAA right? Such government overreach to control the airspace. Should be privatized to the highest bidder. Fewer regulations. Cheaper tickets!!!


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