Titan Quest (Diablo Clone)

[Bee]

I downloaded and played through the demo over the weekend for Titan Quest. It's basically a Diablo clone with 3D graphics and a mythological theme. I found it pretty entertaining and will probably pick it up once it comes out. About the only thing I didn't like about the game was that you couldn't rotate the camera view. Not a game killer for me, but a minor annoyance. If you like Diablo clones, I'd suggest checking this one out.

[Bee]

The game is out now and I'll probably pick it up on the way home today. Early reviews have been pretty positive. Tom Chick gave it a 4.5/5 and his tastes tend to be similar to mine. The wife's gone until Saturday night as well, so I'll actually have some time to play the game. :D

[hoopsguy]

Bee, are you enjoying the game?

[General Mike]

I love Diablo. I might have to check this one out.

[Schmidty]

The demo is great. I'll be getting it this friday.

[Bee]

It's the best Diablo style game I've played since Diablo (and I've tried most of them). I'm about 2/3 of the way through the game and haven't gotten tired of playing which is unusual for me.

Yesterday my wife (who generally doesn't play computer games despite my best efforts) started a character and ended up playing for about 6 hours straight after saying she would just try it out. I just bought another copy so we can play multiplayer together over our LAN.

The only thing I'm not thrilled about is no random dungeons which may hurt replaying it at higher levels, but something that I hope makes up for that is the game comes with a mod builder. I'm hoping a community develops that will design new adventures for download. If that happens, I think this will become a regular game in my gaming rotation especially if the wife continues to enjoy it and doesn't grow bored.

[aran]

I hope this game isn't $50 off the shelf. I've been looking for a mindless-ish game to play with friends when I go back to college and this seems to fit the bill better than the mediocre Dungeon Siege 2.

[Schmidty]

I hope this game isn't $50 off the shelf. I've been looking for a mindless-ish game to play with friends when I go back to college and this seems to fit the bill better than the mediocre Dungeon Siege 2.

I thought DS2 was a great game, but I can understand why people would think that it was mediocre.

[hoopsguy]

It is listing for 45-50 right now, which is a little more than I'm looking to pay for it unless there is really good buzz from the people playing it right now.

I had fun with DS2 - much more than with the first one. But I didn't have much desire to go back and replay it with a different character or on a harder difficulty level.

[chinaski]

I picked it up and logged about 10 hours with the game so far. Its fun, nothing groundbreaking; but it works as great gaming methadone to get me off of FM2006. I think im going to hold off playing until the patch comes out tho, it has a random character corruption problem thats really starting to bug me.

[biological warrior]

Bah! I'd like to pick this up but its a choice between shelling $40.00 on that or towards books for summer school.....hmmm decisions, decisions.....

[Bee]

I picked it up and logged about 10 hours with the game so far. Its fun, nothing groundbreaking; but it works as great gaming methadone to get me off of FM2006. I think im going to hold off playing until the patch comes out tho, it has a random character corruption problem thats really starting to bug me.

Yep, definitely nothing groundbreaking...but that's fine with me. It's basically Diablo using the mythology of Greece, Egypt and China.

I guess I've been lucky and haven't had any random character corruptions. In fact, the only problem I've had was one disconnection in multiplayer. No crashes, no corruptions problems, etc (although I've seen that stuff reported on the official boards). At this point, I've put in about 30 hours in single player and another 10 hours in multiplayer. I love having a new game during a holiday weekend! :D

[Bee]

There's a mod out for the game that adds a few things that are nice. Allows potions to stack to more than 5 in an inventory slot and the ability to add relics to blue/purple items. I think the mod is called the enhanced experience mod version 4.0. I didn't save a link, but you can find it over at the official boards in the general discussion area.

[Eaglesfan27]

Gothic 3 has been a bit of a disappointment (sorry Buc, although I do think I will get back to it once an expansion or another patch or two come out. I've hit a few other quests that appear to me to be bugged besides the hungry wolves quest and it is growing frustrating.)

So, I found myself searching the board for other RPG's that I haven't played. I've never really gotten into Diablo, but reading some reviews out there and thoughts on here have interested me in this game. I realize it is vastly different than Gothic 3 or Oblivion, but I think it will tickle my RPG itch for now. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the price has dropped to 19.99 at my local gamestop. So, I'll probably pick it up on the way home from work tonight. Just thought I'd share that it is down to 19.99 for anyone else who was intrigued by the game in the past.

[MikeVic]

Gothic 3 has been a bit of a disappointment (sorry Buc, although I do think I will get back to it once an expansion or another patch or two come out. I've hit a few other quests that appear to me to be bugged besides the hungry wolves quest and it is growing frustrating.)

So, I found myself searching the board for other RPG's that I haven't played. I've never really gotten into Diablo, but reading some reviews out there and thoughts on here have interested me in this game. I realize it is vastly different than Gothic 3 or Oblivion, but I think it will tickle my RPG itch for now. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the price has dropped to 19.99 at my local gamestop. So, I'll probably pick it up on the way home from work tonight. Just thought I'd share that it is down to 19.99 for anyone else who was intrigued by the game in the past.

Diablo? Or Diablo 2 with expansion?

[jbmagic]

Gothic 3 has been a bit of a disappointment (sorry Buc, although I do think I will get back to it once an expansion or another patch or two come out. I've hit a few other quests that appear to me to be bugged besides the hungry wolves quest and it is growing frustrating.)

So, I found myself searching the board for other RPG's that I haven't played. I've never really gotten into Diablo, but reading some reviews out there and thoughts on here have interested me in this game. I realize it is vastly different than Gothic 3 or Oblivion, but I think it will tickle my RPG itch for now. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the price has dropped to 19.99 at my local gamestop. So, I'll probably pick it up on the way home from work tonight. Just thought I'd share that it is down to 19.99 for anyone else who was intrigued by the game in the past.


If you loved Dungeon Siege, your going to love Titan Quest.

Can't wait for your impressions.

[Eaglesfan27]

Diablo? Or Diablo 2 with expansion?

Uhmm, I'm talking about Titan Quest. I only mentioned Diablo, because of the title of this thread which mentions it is a diablo clone. Also, most reviews say it is a Diablo 2 clone, except that it is generally better executed.

Edited to add: I've tried Diablo and Diablo 2 and didn't really get into them, but I'm willing to take a chance that I'll like this game better since it is only 19.99.

[MikeVic]

Uhmm, I'm talking about Titan Quest. I only mentioned Diablo, because of the title of this thread which mentions it is a diablo clone. Also, most reviews say it is a Diablo 2 clone, except that it is generally better executed.

Oh ok, gotcha.

[Axxon]

Titan Quest is a lot of fun but the story is really short.

[Schmidty]

Titan Quest is a lot of fun but the story is really short.

The expansion comes out on 3/5, and will add 8 new classes, 10 new character levels, lots of new items, monsters, etc., and about 15-20 more hours of gameplay.

I loved Titan Quest (even my wife did), and will definitely be buying the expansion.

[Axxon]

The expansion comes out on 3/5, and will add 8 new classes, 10 new character levels, lots of new items, monsters, etc., and about 15-20 more hours of gameplay.

I loved Titan Quest (even my wife did), and will definitely be buying the expansion.

I'll definitely buy it. It may be too short too but there are the add ons and the game is fun.

[Alan T]

Yeah, I enjoyed titan quest so far that I have played it. I only play it for like 2-4 hours every 2 months or so though mostly due to time restraints. I would fully say if you liked DIablo II, you will like it. If you didn't like Diablo II, you won't like it.

[RendeR]

I'm still waiting for a completely random AD&D universe computer game.

I want to find randonized dungeons and trek acros unexplored lands and have it all done on the fly like a real RPG should be.

[Schmidty]

I'm still waiting for a completely random AD&D universe computer game.

I want to find randonized dungeons and trek acros unexplored lands and have it all done on the fly like a real RPG should be.

I think there are a few shareware games like that. Your best bet is to PM Antmeister.

[hoopsguy]

Add me to the list that enjoyed Titan Quest, although I couldn't muster the excitement level to go through it multiple times in single player with different classes.

However, if someone is looking to play multi-player at some point (Alan T - we have talked about this in the past) I would be happy to fire this game up again and give it a go. Ideally starting with new characters instead of some of the ones I've played with in the past.

I'll also take the plunge on the expansion shortly after release.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm not sure why, but I'm enjoying this game much more than I ever enjoyed Diablo or Diablo 2. It could be that I tried both of those games several years after they had come out and the graphics were dated, while this is a good looking game. However, I don't think that is it. I don't think it is the character development system, because it seems very similar from what I remember of Diablo 2's development system. I am a fan of the setting, although the story clearly isn't the game's main point. I think the biggest factor might be that the "rebirth fountains" which act as save points are much closer together than Diablo 2, so I could play this in shorter bursts if I want without having to backtrack. Shrug. Whatever the reason, I'm enjoying this game much more than I enjoyed Diablo 1 or 2.

[jbmagic]

I'm not sure why, but I'm enjoying this game much more than I ever enjoyed Diablo or Diablo 2. It could be that I tried both of those games several years after they had come out and the graphics were dated, while this is a good looking game. However, I don't think that is it. I don't think it is the character development system, because it seems very similar from what I remember of Diablo 2's development system. I am a fan of the setting, although the story clearly isn't the game's main point. I think the biggest factor might be that the "rebirth fountains" which act as save points are much closer together than Diablo 2, so I could play this in shorter bursts if I want without having to backtrack. Shrug. Whatever the reason, I'm enjoying this game much more than I enjoyed Diablo 1 or 2.

Are you enjoying it more than Dungeon Siege 1 and 2 also?

[Axxon]

Are you enjoying it more than Dungeon Siege 1 and 2 also?

Can't answer for EF but I liked it as much but not more than either of those games. They're all fun if you like the genre. I liked the character development better though. The gameplay of DS2 was better and the add ons make DS1 better in that area though I haven't checked the TQ mods in a while so that may have equalled out.

I'd say if you like any of these games, you won't be disappointed with any of the others. I'll add one I don't hear mentioned often. Sacred was a pretty fun game and it is huge. HUGE I tell you. It's discount bin now and would be worth a look.

Also there is the shareware game FATE which easily has gotten as much or even more play from me for some reason. No real story, simpler player development but just simply fun.

[flere-imsaho]

Reading hoopsguy's new dynasty led me to this thread which led me to this post:

I'm still waiting for a completely random AD&D universe computer game.

I want to find randonized dungeons and trek acros unexplored lands and have it all done on the fly like a real RPG should be.

Did you ever find it, RendeR?

[gstelmack]

It's not D&D, but Dwarf Fortress is supposed to be close.

[MikeVic]

Castle of the Winds 2.

[RendeR]

Reading hoopsguy's new dynasty led me to this thread which led me to this post:



Did you ever find it, RendeR?



No.

[hoopsguy]

Add me to the list that enjoyed Titan Quest, although I couldn't muster the excitement level to go through it multiple times in single player with different classes.

However, if someone is looking to play multi-player at some point (Alan T - we have talked about this in the past) I would be happy to fire this game up again and give it a go. Ideally starting with new characters instead of some of the ones I've played with in the past.

I'll also take the plunge on the expansion shortly after release.

Well, with the expansion I think I can retract this comment. I've now started my second dynasty thread on the game and it is one of very few games that made the journey over from my last computer to this one.

Between my old PC and this one I'm now on my 7th alt, with the first six all having advanced to somewhere between Levels 30-55. 7th one is at level 6 and being chronicled in the Dynasty forum.

Very fun game. I've enjoyed this quite a bit more than the more recently released Hellgate:London and I expect this will stay in the rotation at least until Diablo 3 is released (next year? hopefully).

[JPhillips]

I've been playing the hell out of TQ recently. I've got a Earth/Dream combo player to about level 20.

[Mustang]

hmmm... I might have to peal the shrink wrap off this game then. I've been wanting a Diablo type game to play and had got this, but put it to the side a year or so ago.

[Schmidty]

My wife and I still play TQ. Very entertaining, mindless fun.

It makes me even more pumped for Diablo 3.

[Poli]

Hoops told me way back when how to get this game, but I can't recall where. :(

[gstelmack]

My wife and I still play TQ. Very entertaining, mindless fun.

It makes me even more pumped for Diablo 3.

My wife and I have started playing co-op again now that I've got an upgraded machine that can handle it better.

[gstelmack]

Hoops told me way back when how to get this game, but I can't recall where. :(

Steam has it right now I believe.

[hoopsguy]

Both Steam and Direct Download are options. I originally purchased both in stores, but misplaced my "Play" disc for the expansion (Immortal Throne) so I picked up Direct Download for Immortal Throne for $15. I think it was $20 for the bundle (game + expansion) on both Steam and Direct Download last weekend.

[Mustang]

Sat down and played this for 2-3 hours last night, pretty good Diablo clone. The only thing that is frustrating is the seemingly limited inventory space. Does that ever increase?

[JPhillips]

At level ten and twenty you get more space. You can also buy more caravan space in towns.

[Neon_Chaos]

I only have a copy of the Original, so no Immortal Throne for me. :(

[PurdueBrad]

I purchased via steam but can't download until I get home (work filter!)

[hoopsguy]

I only have a copy of the Original, so no Immortal Throne for me. :(

Purchase IT through DownloadDirect. $15, and it does add a lot of nice improvements throughout the game.

[Danny]

Hmmm, might have to try this at some point. Is it better or worse than Diablo overall?

[hoopsguy]

Well, a couple of things to keep in mind. The original Diablo is really old, and Diablo 2 is pretty dated now as well. The expansion pack for Titan Quest is also two years old, so it is new compared to the Diablo games but it is hardly cutting edge stuff right now.

That said, I think this game is at least as replayable as Diablo 2. I think the game + expansion pack gives you a lot of play for the money even if you only go through it with one character and never touch it again from that point on. I'm guessing you have 50-75 hours of single player storyline.

[General Mike]

I cheated to beat this game. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.

[Calis]

I really loved the skill system in Titan Quest. It kept most of the lower tier skills still viable in the endgame and the options of combining two trees really opened things up.

I think as far as level design and such it was a pretty big step down from Diablo, especially after the first Act. I thought they seemed pretty stale and just didn't grab me the way Diablo did. I can't really put a finger on it exactly, but it was missing something.

It's still the best Diablo clone out there, and at this stage I'd recommend it over Diablo 2 because of age. I highly recommend the expansion immediately if you get it. It's not something that just adds things later in the game or for people who already played. It adds several very handy features from the start and adds a new tree(which is probably my favorite).

I actually recently bought this game a 2nd time just to get it on Steam when they had a recent sale.

Sacred 2 is another possibility if you're looking for this type of game. I've bought it but didn't dive into it too much. It didn't strike me as wonderful, but I know a few people who really loved it. It definitely outdoes the others in openness and sheer size. It's a huge world and pretty open-ended as far as travelling.

[path12]

I like this game a bunch, but there's one certain spot that I just can't get past to save my life and I get frustrated and put it back away.

[hoopsguy]

PM me with the spot - I might be able to help.

[WVUFAN]

If you have a subscription to GameTap, this game comes with the Gold subscription.

[hoopsguy]

So would anyone be interested in a multi-player game? I have barely dipped my toe in the water on this, but have heard it is pretty easy (both setup and play).

If people want to make it a little more challenging, I would suggest the following house rules:
1. Players6 mod for multiplayer
2. No spending any points on either spells or attributes until first death.
3. Upon each death, player has the option to spend one point on either a spell or an attribute. These points can be banked, if desired
4. No spending more than 10% of income purchasing any single item
5. May only purchase a maximum of three items per locale (Greece = locale, not city = locale)
6. No item swapping between alts, although MP trades between players with items found in MP game is allowed and encouraged
7. Complete all side quests.
8. No "farming" to get better equipment
9. Can purchase unlimited health and energy potions

[Alan T]

I would be interested in multi-player, but it depends on when others were free vs my own schedule.

[hoopsguy]

Open for suggestions. For me, evenings from 9PM - 1AM (EST) work most of the time. Weekends is a mixed bag.

[Neon_Chaos]

Open for suggestions. For me, evenings from 9PM - 1AM (EST) work most of the time. Weekends is a mixed bag.

Will I need Immortal Throne to play with you guys?

[hoopsguy]

I think everyone needs to be on the same version for MP. Not 100% sure on this, but would be very surprised if it is not the case. So probably yes.

[Alan T]

Open for suggestions. For me, evenings from 9PM - 1AM (EST) work most of the time. Weekends is a mixed bag.


I am the same on weekends (mixed bag). Unfortunately my times aren't quite as good as yours since my day starts earlier. I pretty much am locked into 8pm - 11pm (EST) Monday or Wednesdays. If I'm the odd man out and others are interested, no need to try to accommodate me .

[gi]

Steam has TQ Gold for $19.99, includes both the original game and expansion. I'd like to end around 11pm EST, start time can be anywhere from 8pm to 10pm EST, depending on the baby's sleep schedule and the wife. If we go over...we go over. :) Weekends are hit or miss, but late is always better on the weekends.

Link to the Players 6 mod:

hxxp://titanquestvault.ign.com/View.php?view=TitanMap.Detail&id=114

[hoopsguy]

If Thursday night works for people I would love to start a game that evening. I'm CST and also working around baby sleep schedule, so I'm likely to be available sometime around 9:15 PM EST.

I would recommend that GI be the person who is coordinating the initial game, as he has more multi-player experience and will be available earlier in the evening than me. If you are interested in starting up with us, post in the thread or PM GI and we'll see if we can get liftoff with this.

[hoopsguy]

Starting a game now.

Game: SquidAhoy
Password: fofc

[gi]

Started a game with hoopsguy, using his house rules

game name: gi
Password: fofc

[hoopsguy]

Played for about two hours with GI with this ruleset. It is very, very hard with two players. Having a third player would make it a lot more sporting.

[gi]

Had a lot of fun, but it is slow and very hard. 3rd person would make things a lot easier, a 4th would be ideal.

[Danny]

I just started a campaign, currently level 6 with my warrior on Normal difficulty. I don't have any house rules since I am still figuring out this game. I would be open potentially to playing multi player. I have the expansion as well, but right now am playing the original.

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[Danny]

So would anyone be interested in a multi-player game? I have barely dipped my toe in the water on this, but have heard it is pretty easy (both setup and play).

6. No item swapping between alts, although MP trades between players with items found in MP game is allowed and encouraged


How could you trade between alts anyway? This is only in multiplayer?

[gi]

The Caravan has two sections, a character storage area and an area to share upon all your characters.

[hoopsguy]

The Caravan is one of the expansion options, if I recall correctly. There is a Caravan guy in the original town.

[Matthean]

If I could hammer out a solid schedule with the hardcore SG in City of Heroes I could probably figure out a decent time to add this in. Weekdays tend to be booked until 10pm eastern(yay retail). Sunday nights would be awesome, but again, I'm not sure how much that will be open because it may get filled.

Played the demo a bit and liked it enough to where I wanted to eventually get the game, but haven't done so. I guess playing CoH taught me how much I prefer to play something where I have the builds set in stone before even playing it. :lol: I might have to hit up some of the TQ forums and get some feedback on any builds I might do just in case you guys might not cut it. (whistles innocently)

[Danny]

I started over using the expansion to play through the game (I thought I had to start with the original) and since I played a few levels, I am going to use some of these rules.


1. Players6 mod for multiplayer
4. No spending more than 10% of income purchasing any single item
5. May only purchase a maximum of three items per locale (Greece = locale, not city = locale)
6. No item swapping between alts, although MP trades between players with items found in MP game is allowed and encouraged
7. Complete all side quests.
8. No "farming" to get better equipment
9. Can purchase unlimited health and energy potions

Basically everything except the skill and spell points because I want to experience them playing through.

[hoopsguy]

Sunday nights from about 9-11PM EST works for me if it is good for others. Start time may be a little variable based on when my kid goes to bed, but should be close to 9PM.

There is a ton of good info at titanquest.net or you can post questions about builds here and I'm sure some of the FOFC regulars can help.

[Matthean]

I'll try to be there around 9.

[Matthean]

And the forum just came up for me. :banghead:

[hoopsguy]

I actually lost track of this tonight with the NCAA tourney and then my kid staying up later. But I heard from NeonChaos and Danny via AIM and got a little bit of TQ in. I now have a slew of Level 1-6 characters for MP :)

I'm up for doing this sometime this week, or else just shooting for next Sunday to see if we can get a bigger group going for a regularly scheduled time slot.

If people want to play higher level alts that is great too. Currently I've got a Level 25 alt that can probably play up a few levels as long as it is on Normal. Or I can work on building up one of my other alts a few levels if someone wants to play somewhere in the 12-20 range.

[Matthean]

I should be listed as matthean on Steam. I went and got the list of alts going. So far I've got 4 running.

Level 2 Dream, Fadeaway
Level 3 Storm, Korakin
Level 2 Warfare, Matthean
Level 1 Nature, Autumn Grace

Are there enough slots to have one of every set?

[Danny]

Hoops, if the level 25 is your alt, which one is your main?

So far these are my characters.

Level 17, Conquerer (warfare/defense), Braxe
Level 5, Druid (nature and will pick storm when I hit 8), Pondura

Tue/Thu are bad for me, but other days/nights feel free to let me know if you want to play online.

[hoopsguy]

FireSpirit - Level 34 Conjurer, fully powered up, blew ironman mode at Level 25, now moving through Act IV on Normal.
cdp - Level 32 Conqueror, early version of "house rules" in single player (kind of a gimp for his level), predicting bad things for this guy with Typhon.
SonOfSquid - Level 25 Hunter, currently playing single player w/house rules, detailed in dynasty forum (major gimp for his level)
SquidIII - Level 5 Defender, intended for 6player mod
SquidLife - Level 5 Stormcaller, intended for 6player mod + house rules
SuperSquid - level 8 Dreamkiller, multiplayer, no house rules or 6max

[Matthean]

If anybody wants to hop on around 9pm, post here. I'll be leveling my guys, but I went and got the x6 mod waiting to just be renamed. I already backed up the original.

[Danny]

None for me tonight unfortunately. I did level Braxe to 19 this afternoon.

[hoopsguy]

Matthean, if you are around I'm up for playing for another 60-90 minutes tonight. I'll look to see if there is an FOFC game up and running.

Creating 6max game now:
Name: FOFC
Password: trout

[Matthean]

I'll do one with my name in it and then use fofc as the password. It's pretty much what I'll use as a default. That is, if I don't see one of yours. :lol:

[hoopsguy]

Darn it, having problem hosting a game ... have seen this before, appears to be a Vista problem. Matthean, would you be able to host a game?

Edit - now I can't join one either? Argh, this is beyond annoying.

[Matthean]

Darn it, having problem hosting a game ... have seen this before, appears to be a Vista problem. Matthean, would you be able to host a game?

Edit - now I can't join one either? Argh, this is beyond annoying.

Do I have to be using the x6 mod? Just using the standard one right now.

[hoopsguy]

I believe the message I would get if that was the issue would suggest that we are on different versions - based on an earlier conversation with NeonChaos. The message I'm getting is "network problems detected".

I'm trying a .NET Framework update (3.5 w/SP1) to see if that fixes the issue. If that does not I'll go back in with the other database.

FWIW, I connected just fine last night with Danny w/o using the 6player database. But I would be pretty surprised if that had anything to do with "network problems detected".

[Matthean]

Ok, hit level 5 and getting close to 5.5 just waiting on you.

[hoopsguy]

Looks like this fix worked. I'll be coming on now without the 6player mod.

[Eilim]

Ack, hopelessly addicted to the game again. Having a blast trying completely different mastery combos. For the first time I've even stuck with a toon that didn't have defense as one of his mastery skill lines. Decided to go with Warfare/Spirit, and loving it. Was a death machine before I decided to grab the fan bugfix patch which fixed the broken skills, now its insane.

Here's "Uafasach the Spellbreaker" with his bud 'Jobarn' right after dinging 26.

http://www.uafasach.net/Stuff/tqUaf.jpg

Stylin' in the Obsidian armor. Took me forever to get the breastplate with my first toon, got two with Uafasach shortly after setting foot in Egypt.

[hoopsguy]

I think I've got three pieces of the Obsidian gear if you want to go for putting together the whole set.

[hoopsguy]

Also, what did the fan bugpatch fix? I haven't seen any glaring issues with the game but maybe I'm missing out on some "broken skills"?

[JPhillips]

I've never gotten more than one piece of a set. I did, though, get two killer legendary items my second time through Midas' labyrinth. I went in with about 600 in armor and left with a tad over 1100. I feel good about my prospects in Egypt.

[Eilim]

For my Spellbreaker it was bunch of skills not working as advertised. On the Spirit side... Ravages of Time, Ternion, and some issues with the Liche King. On the Warfare side, Triumph didn't work properly.

When I found this out, I checked out the readme for the fix and noticed they took care of alot of armor and drop issues I had never noticed but I guess were obvious to anyone who looked in the database.

Readme:

What is fixed? [FIX]
............................

..............................
Bugs fixed in beta patch v1.16
..............................

Monsters
- Polyphemus now gets the proper resistance across difficulties
- Frozen monsters with unique spears are now fixed
- Odontotyrannus (Beast) no longer drops Demons Blood charm.
- Double resistances from undead were removed


Items
- Removed double -%recharge for normal Shaman's Helm and Shaman's Leggings that
were implemented in previous patches. Normal Shaman Helm and Leggings now get
a single -5%recharge bonus.
- Nightmistress' Staff projectile range has been restored, and new projectile is more visible
- Legendary Tiger Claw now gives a proper OA bonus
- Attackspeed of Shiverblood fixed
- Hermes Sandals now has proper bonuses for all three difficulties
- Hermes Sandal movement speed bonus increased to 5/6/7 for N/E/L
- Scepter of the Liche King's base damage fixed
- Might of Hephaestes now activates it's granted skill properly
- Batrachos Greaves have been restored to give +%DA instead of DA again

Skills
- Coredweller now casts Taunt when in agressive mode
- Mortal Wound now has consistent increase levelling up.
- Ravages of Time icon is now replaced with a square to show it's an active
skill
- Vision of Death now properly causes all successfully feared monsters to flee instead of sometimes getting stuck
- Liche King's Arcane Blast can now be used if the Liche is lower than level 5

Miscellaneous
- Persephone's mesh is now fixed
- Near invisible projectiles on staffs without base damage are now replaced by
a more visible projectile

Quests
- The attribute points you get from the Great Emperor are no longer forfeited
if you exit the game before talking to him. If you miss your opportunity, talk to Laches next to the Helos portal
- Hades Generals quest reward now finally works. If you completed the Hades Generals quest in version 1.15 or lower, reclaim your reward by talking to Laches at the Helos portal in the same difficulty in which you completed the quest.
- Stygian Lurker quest reward can now be regained. If you completed the Stygian Lurker quest in version 1.15 or lower, reclaim your reward by talking to Laches at the Helos portal in the same difficulty in which you completed the quest.
- Hidden Treasure quest no longer gives incorrect experience if you complete quest before talking to quest giver. If you completed the Hidden Treasure quest in version 1.15 or lower, reclaim your quest entry by talking to Laches at the Helos portal in the same difficulty in which you completed the quest.

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Bugs fixed in beta patch v1.15
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Monsters/Bosses/Devices
- Controllers Fixed for megalesios spirit
- Chest Traps Fixed (fire, frost, plaque, and poison)
- Dark Obelisk Soul Fixed
- Charon Minion Fixed
- Night Mistress Hero Fixed
- Many NPCs in Act 4 Fixed
- Mob pools through out all acts Fixed
- About 30 Mob Skills fixed

Effects
- Effects for Eruption, Wildfire, Arrows(default, marksmanship, and scatter shot)
and Dart(default) Fixed

Items
- Many Chest loot tables Fixed
- Loot Table for Clam Shell Fixed
- Many Loot Tables for mobs Fixed

Shrines
- Few Shrines in Greece, Babylon, Egypt, and Orient fixed

Quests
- Quest Objects Mushroom Chest, Root Chest, and Urn of the Titans Fixed

Misc
- Few UI Improvments (roll over style on ground items, and main hud)
- Bug in Cliff Wall of Hades Cave Fixed

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Bugs fixed in beta patch v1.14
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Additional Features
- Added updated Templates.arc for modders
- New Randimization Patch added

Other bugs
- Misspellings in the EN version
- Talos, Hydra and Megalesios do not drop armgear in Legendary. They drop 2x the
amount of headgear instead.

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Bugs fixed in beta patch v1.13 and before
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Bugged skills
- Ravages of Time does not reduce damage.
- Nymph actually does less damage on level 19 and 20.
- The last 2 levels of Mortal Wound should be 410 and 445
- The minus physical damage from Fatigue is totally messed up
- Pets aren't able to use petskills above their max level
- Level 11 and 12 of Reflection yield no increase
- Ternion Attack,the skill of "Spirit Mastery" will not take advantage of the
"projectile speed bouns" witch Arcane Lore offered.
- Triumph does not reduce damage

Bugged items
- Homados/Barbarian's Spiked greaves gives a wrong bonus
- Some damage bonuses don't work correctly. As can be seen in the editor, they
should give two bonuses, but only one displays (and works). It concerns the
following suffixes: "of Destruction, "of Carnage", "of Devastation" and "of Annihilation".
- Normal affixes on equipment in Epic/Legendary
- Epic Herakles relics give better bonuses than Legendary ones
- The +%Armor Protection completion bonus for Theban and Battlemage sets does work, but does
not display correctly.
- Armour on Ismene's Bracers is not given
- The diseased plumage and venom sac charms sometimes don't yield a completion bonus.
- -%recharge and -%energy cost on Divine scroll of Archmages Fury doesn't work.
- Schlilsh's Skinner (MI sword of the swamp Anourans); the bleeding damage it does is messed
up across the difficulties
- Affixes that grant a -%recharge bonus don't work.
- Erebus Crystal completion bonus mixes up Legendary with normal bonus
- Overseer's Crest should give +2 to earth enchantment but doesn't.
- Golden Fleece doesn't give the right amount of -%energy cost cost.

Bugged quests
- The Stygian Lurker gives the quest reward, but it disappears after exiting
the game.
- The Quest for Hades Generals does partially work, but not completely.

Bugged drops
- The loot tables are messed up, some items do not drop correctly. A partial
fix for this was made.
- Some bonuses that were obviously intended (+2 defensive skills on shields,
+1/2 to certain class skills on staves and some more).
- The Hermes Sandal relic is present in the database, but doesn't drop
- The Hermes Sandal relic doesn't give bonuses on completing
- Drop rates for Ismene's Helm - enemies have 0% chance to wear this.
- Revenant Greaves are now available in Epic and Legendary too
- Bloodborn Leggings; the correspondent table refers to helmets instead of
leggings.
- Shaman Helms - gets -12% recharge at Normal, 0% at Epic and Legendary.
- Shaman Leggings - gets -12% recharge at Normal, 0% at Epic and Legendary.

Multiplayer bugs
- Phoenix (Legendary)The Heat Shield skill insta-kills allies.

Other bugs
- Some textures are not readable by textureviewer
- Numerous bad linkage errors in the database
- Blacksmith in Epic Knossos doesn't sell helmets.
- Merchants do not sell bows in Epic Act 2.
- +% damage bonuses on relics aren't working correctly in beta patch v1.09RC

Unofficial patch bugs
- Leonidas (NPC from Sparta/Athens) is frozen in patch 1.12RC
- hopefully fixed all the not moving npc/monsters, the animation files were
removed from a lot of the dbr's in xxdxxd's collection of fixes that luedtke
added to the patch
- Some mobs became rather powerful with patch 1.12RC, so some of their items
were removed again

Performance bugs
- Tower of Judgement entrance is stuttering, which causes lagging.
- The Crystal room stuttering causes lagging.
- The game files were organized better to give a small perfomance increment

Minor bugs
- Completed Embodiment of Anubis relic displays wrong. (It's lifted).
- Spearmen from athens have swords in their right hands.

Additional Features
- The skins of the Allskins Mod were included in the patch. This enables you to
see many skins on multiplayer and be able to trade the skin bottles from
other players and apply them. To use these skins yourself you need to use the
Allskins Mod though.


*Link to post with download* (http://www.titanquest.net/forums/bugfix-fanpatch/26855-rel-bugfix-patch.html)

Also liked the fact I was able to get experience for a quest that bugged out on me after I hit the locations in the wrong order. Wasn't expecting to be able to fix that.

[Eilim]

Dola:

I think I've got three pieces of the Obsidian gear if you want to go for putting together the whole set.

I actually have the whole set on my old character I played when I first got the game (thanks to your damn dynasty post..), I just remember it taking me forever to get once I started trying. Especially the breastplate. That's why I was so shocked to get two of them so quickly. I think I'm also up to about 4 or 5 Fell blades. Sadly, not even using them.. Even though they look pretty sweet.

[gi]

I have a number of sets/items on my alts. I'm only playing Hoopsguy's house rules now, so I'd be happy to spread the wealth.

[Matthean]

Level 2 Dream, Fadeaway
Level 3 Storm, Korakin
Level 2 Warfare, Matthean
Level 8 Nature/Dream, Autumn Grace

Updating.

[hoopsguy]

Just got done with fantasy baseball draft if anyone wants to get in some MP tonight.

Also, I've been updating my character list over the course of the week.

[hoopsguy]

Once again, I'm having "network problems" errors. Is anyone else running this on Vista and seeing these errors? There are many forum threads on this topic, but no definitive answers. I've tried about every .NET update that exists, as well as all firewall settings, AV settings, standard Vista app troubleshooting (run as admin, XP SP2 mode), etc.

[Danny]

Level 36, Conqueror (warfare/defense), Braxe
Level 10, Druid (nature/storm), Pondura

Updated. Beat the game on normal with Braxe last night (actually 4 this morning).

[Matthean]

Ok, there is a skill that Storm gets where it slows things down that are near you, but I try to add it to the quick keys and yet it doesn't show. Am I missing something with this power?

[hoopsguy]

Matthean, is it one of the ones that is automatically on? For example, the Defense skill that boosts shield block is automatically applied, without taking any energy cost.

[hoopsguy]

Level 36, Conqueror (warfare/defense), Braxe
Level 10, Druid (nature/storm), Pondura

Updated. Beat the game on normal with Braxe last night (actually 4 this morning).

Congrats. Time to start collecting some Legendary items once you get to Epic.

[Matthean]

Matthean, is it one of the ones that is automatically on? For example, the Defense skill that boosts shield block is automatically applied, without taking any energy cost.

Just went and looked it up, and it is a passive skill.

[Matthean]

Level 2 Dream, Fadeaway
Level 7 Storm, Korakin
Level 2 Warfare, Matthean
Level 8 Nature, Autumn Grace

Ok, I officially like Storm a lot. Basically working the shard power with a little enhancing the weapons for melee stuff. Will start to work in some AoE soon to help smooth out some spots when they send a ton of guys. Anybody ever run a "pure" Storm character as in only taking Storm as their power set? Any other power sets that go with it that work well?

[Danny]

My level 16 druid is almost completely storm. I think nature provides a nice addition to that with heart of oak and eventually a skill which reduces the recharge time for all skills.

[gi]

I liked spirit with my storm character. Felt the combo worked very well in legendary.

[Eilim]

Spirit goes well with everything. :) To the point of being broken if your a staff wielder.

[Danny]

Bit of an update, my conquerer is towards the end of epic difficulty. I played epic very differently and it's taking me about a 1/3 of the time, I also find it much easier as the character with all the skills and gear tears through everything.

[Danny]

I am also kind of cheating now, I'm using a mod and am increasing experience gained by x2, so while I end up at the same level because I skip killing a lot of regular mods, i'm enjoying leveling through the game at a fast pace since I finished once without it. I'll likely go back to regular on legendary, but epic seems kind of a tweener difficulty, I'd rather get to legendary.

The mod also has stackable potions, flying bodies and tons of other options. It's fun to play with sometimes.

[Matthean]

Spirit goes well with everything. :) To the point of being broken if your a staff wielder.

Not sure where I'm going with the Storm character so I'm not sure how much a staff plays part of it, but Spirit is one set I haven't really planned on taking just yet. I could probably make a Spirit character and go the staff route just to try it out. Going on vacation, so I'll have time to mule over what secondary I want.

[Matthean]

Level 2 Dream, Fadeaway
Level 10 Storm, Korakin
Level 2 Warfare, Matthean
Level 8 Nature/dream, Autumn Grace
Level 8 Spirit, Morticane

Updating again. Still going with a pure Storm as of this moment as I kind of still get a feel for stuff. Really feel like I'm cake walking most of the content outside of the monster battles. Also taking notes about sets and how to build guys as I level up. Hopefully at some point I just can get the idea for a build and hammer it out pretty much in my head enough to where there is very little guess work.

Spirit goes well with everything. :) To the point of being broken if your a staff wielder.

My character list obviously shows I broke down and made a Spirit character. I do 2 points into my mastery and one into the skills so 2-5 it was ok. Where it felt like it started to get broken was when I hit level 6 and got the Lich King. I love the fact I can do either the staff and crank out a high amount of damage with the Lich King, or go into melee and use the one skill that does damage while stealing life. It makes me rather sturdy even if my melee damge is lacking.

I would say this for Spirit, but it's more across other sets as well. I really like how they made skills that can be used in ranged, melee, utility, etc pretty much in any set, so it gives you so many build options and you doesn't limit you in sticking with certain mastery sets.

Oh, I have yet to get a blue item on a guy before tonight and I might of had a one green one before tonight as well. My Spirit character got 3 blue drops including a obsidian armor piece in his one play session tonight. He was level 5-6 and getting stuff that had level 11-14 level requirements. :lol:

[FrogMan]

thread resurrection alert!

I bought Titan Quest Gold from Steam over the Holidays but I've yet to play it. Was thinking of firing it up in between play session of King's Bounty but I got a question.

TQ Gold comes with both the original game and the Immortal Throne expansion. My question is the following: Should I start playing with the original game, try to finish it in order to subsequently start another game with Immortal Throne, or should I install and fire up Immortal Throne right away?

Essentially, I'm asking if the expansion simply adds new stuff to the original game, à la Civ IV Warlord (& Beyond the Sword) or if it's a separate game entirely.

Thanks in advance.

FM

[Eaglesfan27]

thread resurrection alert!

I bought Titan Quest Gold from Steam over the Holidays but I've yet to play it. Was thinking of firing it up in between play session of King's Bounty but I got a question.

TQ Gold comes with both the original game and the Immortal Throne expansion. My question is the following: Should I start playing with the original game, try to finish it in order to subsequently start another game with Immortal Throne, or should I install and fire up Immortal Throne right away?

Essentially, I'm asking if the expansion simply adds new stuff to the original game, à la Civ IV Warlord (& Beyond the Sword) or if it's a separate game entirely.

Thanks in advance.

FM

FM,

Go ahead and install the expansion and start a game with it. The expansion adds a few neat features to the core game including an extra class, a disenchanter, and a few other nice perks. Also, it includes an extra chapter to the story that starts seamlessly after you beat the core original game. No good reason not to play with the expansion now.

[FrogMan]

FM,

Go ahead and install the expansion and start a game with it. The expansion adds a few neat features to the core game including an extra class, a disenchanter, and a few other nice perks. Also, it includes an extra chapter to the story that starts seamlessly after you beat the core original game. No good reason not to play with the expansion now.


thanks for the info. Reading about it on the forum here, I thought it was really an addition and not really a whole new game. So basically, I'll play the original story, but with the additions of the expansions, right?

Guess I'll download and install the expansion tonight.

FM

[Eaglesfan27]

thanks for the info. Reading about it on the forum here, I thought it was really an addition and not really a whole new game. So basically, I'll play the original story, but with the additions of the expansions, right?

Guess I'll download and install the expansion tonight.

FM

Yes, I've played the game with and without the expansion and the original story is the same. However, the additions of the expansion add some convenience features that make a very good game even better.

[FrogMan]

Yes, I've played the game with and without the expansion and the original story is the same. However, the additions of the expansion add some convenience features that make a very good game even better.

Very cool, thanks a lot for the info!

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, one more stupid question, re: game difficulty. Should I go with with normal or epic on that first run? Is one or the other more enjoyable/difficult?

I'm kinda avoiding legendary to avoid behind utterly frustrated. :)

FM

[hoopsguy]

FrogMan, you don't get to pick. You start with Normal, then move up to the next level after you've finished.

[FrogMan]

FrogMan, you don't get to pick. You start with Normal, then move up to the next level after you've finished.

oh? Remember testing the game by creating one character and saw the difficulty levels but didn't check if they were "checkable" or not...

So to play on Legendary, you actually have to finish the game twice first? Thanks kinda odd...

FM

[Matthean]

oh? Remember testing the game by creating one character and saw the difficulty levels but didn't check if they were "checkable" or not...

So to play on Legendary, you actually have to finish the game twice first? Thanks kinda odd...

FM

FYI, once you complete Normal and go to Epic, you get a cross the board penalty in your resistances so you by default don't want to just simply go to the higher difficulty settings.

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[JPhillips]

The Ragnarok DLC does a number on the graphics of the original. It isn't quite Grim Dawn, but it looks really good for such an old game.

[QuikSand]

Agreed, I have gotten some nice extra play out of an old favorite with the Ragnarok DLC. Haven't even gotten that deep, but it's nice.

[djsatu]

Pleasently surprised with the PS4 version. Controls are simple, and i'm loving the game so far after a few hours. For 25 bucks, I can see myself playing through this more than once.

[QuikSand]

It’s fascinating to me how narrow the “groove” is for a game I love. I’ve played a fair number of RPG games a bit, and loved a few. I LOVED this game, but never got much from Torchlight, which is awfully close to being the same game (seems to me).

[JPhillips]

One of the "simple" things TQ does well is the space between save points. They really nailed the distance that gives time to play, but doesn't keep you playing well past your interest because of the need to get to a save point.

TQ does some many things right.