View Full Version : Well, how much did I overpay?
The_herd
05-16-2004, 01:20 AM
Paid 1 593 000 US$ for;
José Manuel (12809721)
22 years, solid form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and honest.
Has weak experience and poor leadership abilities.
Nationality: España
Assessed value: 863 000 US$
Wage: 6 012 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: The Token Russian
Warnings: 0
Stamina: poor Goaltending: formidable
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor
I saw the weak experience on a 22yo formidable keeper and had to have him.
TonyR
05-16-2004, 01:36 AM
That is actually what I would think a formidable would go for. I say nice buy.
Formidable are more on the 1.2 - 1.4 range, but the "weak" experience might be worth the extra 300k.
I just put one on the market for 1.5M & he didn't sell
TonyR
05-16-2004, 10:52 AM
I sold my formidable with wretched exp and two extra weeks of training for 1.9.
Mabey it was the extra two weeks of training, but i thought most formids went about the 1.5 range.
Masked
05-16-2004, 11:40 AM
When I was searching for a formidable keeper earlier this season, most went for 1.35-1.5M with little or no experience. I bought mine for 1.59M but he is four weeks past formidable (> 1M value in passable form). He has no exp though.
damnMikeBrown
05-16-2004, 01:19 PM
I don't know how you're figuring out the +weeks of training, but in my experience, the hottrick tool is wrong. It figures things off of wretched secondaries instead of disastrous. I don't know about other keeper trainers, but my guys always have disastrous secondaries. . .
My guys are a week away from Titanic (yeah, one will be for sale), and hottrick has them as low & very low supernaturals.
TonyR
05-16-2004, 01:49 PM
I've never used hottrick, so I was going offmy records for the guy I sold.
Masked
05-16-2004, 01:58 PM
I don't know how you're figuring out the +weeks of training, but in my experience, the hottrick tool is wrong. It figures things off of wretched secondaries instead of disastrous. I don't know about other keeper trainers, but my guys always have disastrous secondaries. . .
My guys are a week away from Titanic (yeah, one will be for sale), and hottrick has them as low & very low supernaturals.
My guy has two wretched secondaries, so hottrick should be fairly accurate. Plus the guy I bought him from told me (after I had bought him http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif) that he was +4.
finkenst
05-16-2004, 02:12 PM
So, in a similar vein, i just bought the following:
http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/images/dresses/back/n2/dressback01.gifJuan Carlos Cabellos (30136201) http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/images/bookmark_16x16.gif (http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/bookmarks.asp?action=AddConfirm&BookmarkTypeID=2&ObjectID=30136201)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.
<TABLE style="MARGIN: 0px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Nationality: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>España (http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/menu.asp?action=changeLeagueSystem&leagueSystemID=36) </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Assessed value: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>365 000 US$ </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Wage: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 976 US$/week including 20% Bonus </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Owner: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>CC FC (http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/teamDetails.asp?teamID=221902) </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Warnings: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>0 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE style="MARGIN: 0px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Stamina: </TD><TD>wretched </TD><TD>Goaltending: </TD><TD>solid </TD></TR><TR><TD>Playmaking: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD><TD>Passing: </TD><TD>wretched </TD></TR><TR><TD>Winger: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD><TD>Defending: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD></TR><TR><TD>Scoring: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD><TD>Set Pieces: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I paid 180000. I've been keeping an eye on the keeper market and giving that I am in the US and work for a living (aka, hard to get the bargains during the US daytime), i think this is a pretty decent price. :confused:
--tim
Desnudo
05-16-2004, 08:42 PM
Paid 1 593 000 US$ for;
José Manuel (12809721)
22 years, solid form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and honest.
Has weak experience and poor leadership abilities.
Nationality: España
Assessed value: 863 000 US$
Wage: 6 012 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: The Token Russian
Warnings: 0
Stamina: poor Goaltending: formidable
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor
I saw the weak experience on a 22yo formidable keeper and had to have him.
I think you got a decent price. The difference between what used to be a reasonable price and what is now a reasonable price has grown very large. I kept figuring that, like normal, prices would drop as the season wore on, but that doesn't seem to be the case this time.
There seems to be some sort of "next bigger idiot theory" (not at all saying you are one) going on in HT right now.
The_herd
05-16-2004, 10:52 PM
Well, the guy put up 4.5* for me. I'll take that.
However, HT fucked me really nice. Granted, I just blew my team up in order to rebuild, but this was a PIC that I really should have won, final score was 0-0. They pressed me, which is the tactic I hate the most, even more than CA.
Dames,Booze,Chains & Boots
Player rating and Team formation
Midfield: weak
Right Side Defence: outstanding
Central Defence: magnificent
Left Side Defence: formidable
Right Side Attack: wretched
Central Attack: poor
Left Side Attack: weak
The Token Russian
Player rating and Team formation
Midfield: inadequate
Right Side Defence: brilliant
Central Defence: outstanding
Left Side Defence: formidable
Right Side Attack: excellent
Central Attack: formidable
Left Side Attack: inadequate
Breeze
05-17-2004, 05:58 AM
I paid $1.32 for a formidable a few weeks back, but his experience was poor (i think), and his stamina and form weren't much better. However, he's still giving me slightly better production than my displaced starter.
The formidable I bought 3 weeks ago to help me in my cup run is in a form slump and is no better than my mid-solid with experience goalie...
The only upside is taht I purchased him for 1.05M
Mr. Wednesday
05-17-2004, 11:38 AM
I paid 180000. I've been keeping an eye on the keeper market and giving that I am in the US and work for a living (aka, hard to get the bargains during the US daytime), i think this is a pretty decent price. :confused: 180k for a mid-solid keeper is definitely a decent price.
Desnudo
05-17-2004, 11:45 AM
Well, the guy put up 4.5* for me. I'll take that.
However, HT fucked me really nice. Granted, I just blew my team up in order to rebuild, but this was a PIC that I really should have won, final score was 0-0. They pressed me, which is the tactic I hate the most, even more than CA.
Dames,Booze,Chains & Boots
Player rating and Team formation
Midfield: weak
Right Side Defence: outstanding
Central Defence: magnificent
Left Side Defence: formidable
Right Side Attack: wretched
Central Attack: poor
Left Side Attack: weak
The Token Russian
Player rating and Team formation
Midfield: inadequate
Right Side Defence: brilliant
Central Defence: outstanding
Left Side Defence: formidable
Right Side Attack: excellent
Central Attack: formidable
Left Side Attack: inadequate
Are you the token russian or dames? I would have thought Russian would have won this game 1-0. Although it also is easy to see how no one scored.
OldGiants
05-17-2004, 11:53 AM
So, in a similar vein, i just bought the following:
http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/images/dresses/back/n2/dressback01.gifJuan Carlos Cabellos (30136201) http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/images/bookmark_16x16.gif (http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/bookmarks.asp?action=AddConfirm&BookmarkTypeID=2&ObjectID=30136201)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.
<TABLE style="MARGIN: 0px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Nationality: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>España (http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/menu.asp?action=changeLeagueSystem&leagueSystemID=36) </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Assessed value: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>365 000 US$ </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Wage: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 976 US$/week including 20% Bonus </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Owner: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>CC FC (http://www6.hattrick.org/Common/teamDetails.asp?teamID=221902) </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Warnings: </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>0 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE style="MARGIN: 0px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Stamina: </TD><TD>wretched </TD><TD>Goaltending: </TD><TD>solid </TD></TR><TR><TD>Playmaking: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD><TD>Passing: </TD><TD>wretched </TD></TR><TR><TD>Winger: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD><TD>Defending: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD></TR><TR><TD>Scoring: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD><TD>Set Pieces: </TD><TD>disastrous </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I paid 180000. I've been keeping an eye on the keeper market and giving that I am in the US and work for a living (aka, hard to get the bargains during the US daytime), i think this is a pretty decent price. :confused:
--tim
180k is definitely a good bit of shopping. I know I would be disapointed to sell a Solid for less than 200k.
The_herd
05-17-2004, 11:55 AM
Are you the token russian or dames? I would have thought Russian would have won this game 1-0. Although it also is easy to see how no one scored.
I'm the ruskie. I sold my best midfielder before the match and should have went normal instead of PIC because of it. It will go down as a lesson in underestimating you opponent.
Havok
05-17-2004, 12:03 PM
oh wow Herd!!!..... what are doing witht that weak coach!!! get rid of him first. Thats setting your training back SSSSOOOOOO much.
Desnudo
05-17-2004, 12:17 PM
How do you read SSSSOOOOOO? Is it pronounced with a stutter, like S-S-S-Soooooo? Or are the first three Ss silent? ;)
The_herd
05-17-2004, 12:21 PM
oh wow Herd!!!..... what are doing witht that weak coach!!! get rid of him first. Thats setting your training back SSSSOOOOOO much.
I'm buying a solid coach later this week. I was waiting on my solid/passable coach candidate to become available as a coach.
Havok
05-17-2004, 12:48 PM
How do you read SSSSOOOOOO? Is it pronounced with a stutter, like S-S-S-Soooooo? Or are the first three Ss silent? ;)
bleh!
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