FOFC Nat. Team Trainer Nomination Thread

[RPI-Fan]

We need to make sure we get slashers out of office when elections come around.

I suggest anyone who wants to try and be FOFC's representative, or if anyone knows someone who would do a good job, should nominate here and eventually we can find a way to pick our candidate.

Please feel free to nominate yourself.

[The Afoci]

I am out, running in Canada!

[TargetPractice6]

I nominate CoffeeWarlord.

[The Afoci]

I nominate CoffeeWarlord.

Of course this is because he sucks so bad, that no matter what you do in the WC, you will look golden. ;)

[TargetPractice6]

Shhh!!!

[GoldenEagle]

I nominate vexroid.

[Coffee Warlord]

Of course this is because he sucks so bad, that no matter what you do in the WC, you will look golden. ;)

If elected, I shall ensure that no Crawfish, or descendant of Crawfish, shall ever respresent (read: disgrace) the USA team. Ever. :)

[The Afoci]

CW for DEAD!

[mckerney]

If elected, I shall ensure that no Crawfish, or descendant of Crawfish, shall ever respresent (read: disgrace) the USA team. Ever. :)

I also nominate CoffeeWarlord.

[Blade6119]

i think billy should run...lets gets him going, whether he wants to or not!

[YoSoySean]

I really don't think slashers will be running again anyway. He believes in the one FULL term limit.

[RPI-Fan]

Regardless, I think most here would agree it's best to pick one FOFC candidate to rally behind. I I'm wrong in that assumption, please correct me.

[The Afoci]

Regardless, I think most here would agree it's best to pick one FOFC candidate to rally behind. I I'm wrong in that assumption, please correct me.

Agreed.

[Blade6119]

but who...obviously billy is the most qualified(minus TP6, but that would even be close). I could see also backing lytic since he has the national coaching experiance if he was willing.

[RPI-Fan]

I think Billy is most qualified, and he also would have by far the best chance of picking up "outside" votes.

[TargetPractice6]

I really don't think slashers will be running again anyway. He believes in the one FULL term limit.
Instead of the 29 of 32 week terms? :p

[BillyNYC]

The season I relegate I should run? :)

Seriously though, I'm not likely to run. It's just a game and I don't much care for how much people get riled up about nat team stuff. It wouldn't be fun for me, and "taking the US to glory" is just not something I have an interest in. It honestly doesn't mean anything to me if the US wins the World Cup or finishes last. Of course, if I was coach I'd do my best to win, but beyond that I don't much care.

I think it's somewhat due to that I started playing a bit before national teams even existed, so was always "my team and only my team" and that's how I treat it nowadays. I don't have any more "pride" if I was to have a US nat. teamer as compared to a Pakistani one (hell, I prefer my Hong Kong guy because the flag looks weird). It's always been about my team and I view the national team aspect as a necessary evil for the growth of the game. Hell, I root for Tombstone's nat team guys to get injured and so forth.

Besides, this season will be more interesting to me than the past few. New teams, more money than I've ever had and a better team. I'm going to try to enjoy it and see what happens.

Besides besides, on a personal level I'm tired of doing temp work and need to find a job.

So, no, I don't think I'd be running. I'm flattered by my mention though, especially considering I'm not exactly active here.

[Poli]

I would be interested in running, but I doubt I would garner any votes outside of FOFC.

[Blade6119]

id vote for my boy ardent!

[mckerney]

I would be interested in running, but I doubt I would garner any votes outside of FOFC.

Hell, you'd have a hard time garnering votes inside of FOFC. :p

[antbacker]

Are there any other US voting blocks outside of FOFC? If so, it might be a good idea to see who those groups are proposing.

[TonyR]

I would be interested in running, but I doubt I would garner any votes outside of FOFC.

Does this mean the National team would now wear puke green socks and play the Run-N-Shoot ???

[Poli]

Does this mean the National team would now wear puke green socks and play the Run-N-Shoot ???


There would definitely be some run and shoot soccer going on. :)

Puke green socks I'm not sure I'd have control over.

[TonyR]

There would definitely be some run and shoot soccer going on. :)

Puke green socks I'm not sure I'd have control over.

Ok, they wear them under their normal socks. :p

[terpkristin]

Are there any other US voting blocks outside of FOFC? If so, it might be a good idea to see who those groups are proposing.
If I had to guess, LoTA (League of The Americas) might push a candidate, though I don't know for sure. There are a few other "big" conferences that are mostly US people.

~tk

[saintjo]

screw them. we are the most important federation :) everyone should listen to us!

[DataKing]

screw them. we are the most important federation :) everyone should listen to us!

Spoken like a true FOFCer. :)

[saintjo]

whoever we nominate, i highly recommend you do not make the following speech. it will kill your campaign...

"Not only are we going to New Hampshire..., we're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York! And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to take back the White House, Yeeeeeaaaaaah!"

[MacroGuru]

However, this might work.

If you can look like the little Quizno's guys and sing just like they do......It's a shoooo in.

[TargetPractice6]

LotA has never sponsored a candidate before. I think FOFC is the only enormous bloc in the US.

Ardent: Yes, you get to control the color of the socks :D

[Poli]

Excellent, TP6, excellent.

We will have the other countries barfing on the sidelines. They won't stand a chance when I unveil my secret weapon, puke green socks.

[Coffee Warlord]

Whoo! More campaign fodder for me!

Vote CW and keep the puke green far, far away.

(Although I have a definiate urge, if by some chance in hell I win, to rotate the color of our socks every match, just for some fun.)

[BishopMVP]

My top two choices (who haven't already declined AFAIK) are Lytic and CoffeeWarlord. Lytic was very successful running South Korea, so that added experience gives him a leg up on everyone else. But I'll pretty much vote for whoever is picked.

[Poli]

Whoo! More campaign fodder for me!

Vote CW and keep the puke green far, far away.

(Although I have a definiate urge, if by some chance in hell I win, to rotate the color of our socks every match, just for some fun.)


Must

Kick

Coffee

Warlord

in

nads.

[Raven Hawk]

I would nominate my arch rival, Lytic. The more things he has to worry about outside of our division, the better. ;)

Oh yeah, and he's a good candidate.

[The Afoci]

AE has worldwide appeal. I mean, who wouldn't love a weird guy from the Navy who has an odd obsession with puke green socks.

[Poli]

I would nominate my arch rival, Lytic. The more things he has to worry about outside of our division, the better. ;)

Oh yeah, and he's a good candidate.


Just curious. Is he eligible? He'd be a good candidate, but I thought he was already a U-20 manager somewhere.

[Poli]

AE has worldwide appeal. I mean, who wouldn't love a weird guy from the Navy who has an odd obsession with puke green socks.

After 8 months at sea, all of my socks were puke green.

[Matt2You]

Lytic is still coaching South Korea U-20 but he would definetely be ideal for the spot. Noone will give a duck about anyone else we suggest--So just pick a candidate; and he has my support.

And just fyi, if we can't limit it to one candidate we might as well not even bother.

[DukeRulesMAB]

I believe lytic plans to run for U-20 trainer after TP's term is up.

I believe CW is the best choice this go around, so long as he's willing to put the effort on the conferences.

[The Afoci]

It sounds like CW or AE? I think if AE can get the backing of his GM buddies, not sure which one, we should back him. Otherwise we will have an uphile climb with CW-who?

[MacroGuru]

AE has my vote, but then again, if they are an FOFCer, I will vote

[Mr. Wednesday]

USCHO is up around 40 people now, but I don't think we've got anybody with a serious shot at winning (although I'd guess there's at least a couple of us who could be competitive).

[The_herd]

How could I vote for ardent when he came up short in his goal of allowing 80 goals this season?

Plus, he's in the Navy. *shivers at the thought*

[Poli]

I nearly joined the Air Force. Plus, the fact I didn't give up 80 goals allowed me to move into 7th place. :)

[The Afoci]

I think AE could really use a campaign manager...

But who would have the qualifications...

I mean, who could rally the people? Who has handled this kind of talent, or lack there of and turned it into something good?

I got nothing.

[Poli]

I think AE could really use a campaign manager...

But who would have the qualifications...

I mean, who could rally the people? Who has handled this kind of talent, or lack there of and turned it into something good?

I got nothing.


I'd like to announce The Afoci is now my campaign manager.

[Blade6119]

your going to need an assistant...*prays her picks me*

[Coffee Warlord]

It sounds like CW or AE? I think if AE can get the backing of his GM buddies, not sure which one, we should back him. Otherwise we will have an uphile climb with CW-who?

While I would like to seriously win, and will make a good attempt to do so, I don't really expect to win this time around. Should at the very least get my name out as a legit candidate for the next election, though.

[The_herd]

I'd like to announce The Afoci is now my campaign manager.

Uhhh, did you even pay attention to the FOFC member draft?

[Poli]

Uhhh, did you even pay attention to the FOFC member draft?

Sure did!






















Dang it.

[Blade6119]

Uhhh, did you even pay attention to the FOFC member draft?

Hey herd...if you saw who he and i drafted i think it is quite clear we didnt... :D

[mckerney]

Uhhh, did you even pay attention to the FOFC member draft?

So you're saying we should support the FOFCer who is so popular he was drafted twice? :D

I'd like to thank you for the support, but I'm sorry, I would have to decline.

[Blade6119]

i drafted two other drafters...that alone should earn me the bid!

[The Afoci]

Don't listen to the herd! Once I was taken first overall, the signing bonus went to my head. I am pretty sure your campaign manager position is unpaid. That is perfect!

[Airhog]

Just curious, but who did we back in the last national trainer election?

[vex]

We never have. Just DataKing and TP6 in the U-20 election.

[Airhog]

ah, I knew we had voted for several people in the u-20 race, but was unsure about the nat race.

[The Afoci]

Actually we backed TP6 who somehow lost the election to slashers. TP6 was new here, but I believe he had nearly full support from the board.

[sterlingice]

Actually we backed TP6 who somehow lost the election to slashers. TP6 was new here, but I believe he had nearly full support from the board.
Hey, that reminds me. How is our U-20 team doing? You need to update us or something, youngster coach guy. We, the voting USA people (not just FOFC), put you into office and we'll boot ya out. We demand news from our leader so we can praise you or hold you accountable ;)

SI

[vex]

It would be nice to get updates on this board, even if they are cut and paste ones.

[The Afoci]

Burn TP6 at the stake!!!!!

[TargetPractice6]

I post weekly update in the antietem forums and usually abbreviated one sin the US conference. I guess I can start posting them here too. I could start a thread for them in the dynasty forum. Would anybody be up for that?

[sterlingice]

I post weekly update in the antietem forums and usually abbreviated one sin the US conference. I guess I can start posting them here too. I could start a thread for them in the dynasty forum. Would anybody be up for that?
I think that's a unanimous "duh, yeah!" ;)

Seriously, I don't care if it's original or cut and paste or what, but it would be nifty to have some updates. Also, could you drop a link to the antietem forums. I've since lost the link there.

SI

[Masked]

http://htforums.antietem.com/index.php

[Matt2You]

We have a chance of our condidate winning, it'll just merely be a matter of consolidating our vote bloc to all vote for one person.. and a few other things.

+I for one don't have Hattrick Supporter but if all who did put a logo of some sort saying "XXXX for Nat Team Coach" that would work great....

+We would need the higher division teams... Espicially ML :) to endorse our candidate; Considering our weakness is no recognizable/high ranking teams apparently want Nat. Coach....

+Show support for the candidate in the forum... (I've never even touched forums in hattrick... :/)

+It'd be nice if you would say the right things too. I'd give background information and try to use the FOFC background for good... I would say you've established a team of experts from all divisions of people using different tactics to help you form an opinion to present the people..... or whatever; Just be carefull--They want to think they have some controll over the team if your elected.

+Get endorsements from outside... which is pretty self explanatory.

*I'd actually create a team and post the members of the team, expecting every team member to make at least one post concerning the candidacy. These people should be obscurely known... without a friendly missed. Get every division, and every tactic. Of course, make sure people understand these people will only be used to help you figure out options.
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With CW's and AE's blessing, we should start a poll if the loser of the poll promises to back down for the good of having a FOFC'er as head coach.

[TargetPractice6]

We did the logo thing when apoc ran.

http://home.alltel.net/res18238/ilikeapoc.jpg

[Poli]

We have a chance of our condidate winning, it'll just merely be a matter of consolidating our vote bloc to all vote for one person.. and a few other things.
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With CW's and AE's blessing, we should start a poll if the loser of the poll promises to back down for the good of having a FOFC'er as head coach.

CW and I are good friends, and we've talked about this already. We'll support whoever FOFC chooses.


That said, GM-George and I are on good terms, and he might endorse me for national coach. Emphasis on might.

[Coffee Warlord]

Yep, if it's really between me and AE, we can either duel to the death, have an FOFC vote, or whatever. Not a big deal.

[Poli]

Yep, if it's really between me and AE, we can either duel to the death, have an FOFC vote, or whatever. Not a big deal.

I told you, duel to the death is not an option. You would end up dieing, and I can't have that.

I am an expert rifleman with some knowledge of SWAT tactics. :)

[The Afoci]

Well, AE, don't bring up to GM-George that I am your campaign manager. That guy is a baby. I would hate to see his reaction if people criticised him and not just his brother.

TP, did you and GM-George have a history of problems or did this just start after the sweden screwup?

[ardentrules]

We did the logo thing when apoc ran.

http://home.alltel.net/res18238/ilikeapoc.jpg

It shows promise.

http://www.digitalstar.com/mckerney/images/325831.JPG

[Poli]

For what it's worth, I have the "unofficial" support of GM George.

[Coffee Warlord]

For what it's worth, I don't. :)

[robbgmaier]

fucking elitists :)

[TargetPractice6]

The only other altercation I've had with George was, of course, after last World Cup when I criticized slasher's MOTS. We've been talking to each other regularly on MSN though and he's never whined about the U20 team. Oh well.

[The Afoci]

The only other altercation I've had with George was, of course, after last World Cup when I criticized slasher's MOTS. We've been talking to each other regularly on MSN though and he's never whined about the U20 team. Oh well.

I was talking with him on the board and I think I understand what he is saying, but he is very touchy. Who knows...

[vex]

EDITED for the sensitive.

[The Afoci]

vex, I would delete that. He posted it on the national team forum and didn't want it to leave there. If it started spreading, shit will hit the fan.

[vex]

I'm not even a member of the natioanl team forum, it's on the conference board.

[The Afoci]

That is going to piss him off pretty bad. He is very worried about leaks already...

[robbgmaier]

EDITED for the sensitive.

I'm not sensitive, although The Afoci sometimes makes me giggle

[The Afoci]

Looks like the secret is out, no need to edit it. I doubt lav-hehe will be given access to the national team board anymore though... :)

[BillyNYC]

I find it all pretty funny really. If the "secret" leaked out, it would be HORRIBLE! Jude Sutherland's morale would plummet. Those evil Canadians could use that knowledge to play mind games with Slashers and create a rift between the coach and his star players! And the press! They'd be all over it and the team wouldn't have a chance to even breathe! "Is this a rumor Rex? Jude, are you upset? Say it ain't so!"

If something's posted on a US-only board with 100 members or whatever, it's going to leak out regardless I'd imagine. But does it really matter? At all?

[The Afoci]

Billy, the whole little secret is that slashers plans on quitting. He wants to announce it himself, nothing to do with the team. Figured it would be alright to allow him to announce himself the way he wants...

[vex]

I think slashers needs to learn that just because they're are on that board, all 100 people aren't his closest friends and he shouldn't be telling secrets unless he wants everyone to know.

[BillyNYC]

If he (Slashers) wanted to keep a secret, posting about it in a semipublic forum isn't exactly the way to do it. (I'm not even a member of that offsite board, so not sure what went on there). So he announced it to a group of 100(?) or whatever, but somehowwanted it kept secret from everyone else? Seems strange.

[vex]

That's kinda freaky.

[The Afoci]

I agree, but he used his quitting as a justification for MOTS Sweden. He wanted it to be his "legacy" in hattrick. Retarded, but his idea.

[vex]

So he could go out "cool", he decided to ruin the Cup for everyone else. How nice of him.

[The Afoci]

Yeah, explains why there is a vocal group that is pissed at him in the conferences saying they don't want to go into details. He wanted a blaze of glory ending...

[Blade6119]

thanks for screwing the USA for your own good slashers...we have a word for that, its called a traitor....something to ponder...

[The Afoci]

I don't think he screwed the team over on purpose. He truly believes that that MOTS was the proper move. Along with the AOW with a winger TM. He still believes that if not for the red card, we would win.

[DukeRulesMAB]

Moving this back to the original discussion... :)

If AE has the support of GM-George, I really think that's the direction we want to go. That's a nice base for non-FOFC support, something we'll need if we're to run anything but a novelty campaign.

[vex]

And if we can get a few of our conferences to support him (Kraftworks, etc) then we should be sitting pretty nicely.

[The Afoci]

I agree that AE is our best choice with the backing of a GM. It gives it some legs in the conference. Without name recognition, we are screwed.

[sterlingice]

And if we can get a few of our conferences to support him (Kraftworks, etc) then we should be sitting pretty nicely. I gotta agree with this. You want some powerful people, join KU. I think there's more GMs than there are normals ;)

But, man, I just started reading that thread from the end and it's a bloodbath. Yeesh. Whoever threw the fucking "elitists" in there, that was classic (NAIWF or The Afoci, I forget who) ;) I would think you could question the decision with just a simple knowledge of the rules- you don't have to have 10 seasons in MLS or Div II or anything.

SI

[vex]

I believe that was NAIWF, I agree that was pretty funny.

[Poli]

That was awesome. :)

[robbgmaier]

(Scratches his head.....wonders what all the fuss is about....)

[TargetPractice6]

<SCRATCHES about.... is fuss the all what head.....wonders his>
Well spoken.

[robbgmaier]

Well spoken.

i keep forgetting that "<>" doesn't show up.....thanks for pointing it out so quickly :)

[Poli]

Well spoken.


Definitely. :)

[sterlingice]

(Scratches his head.....wonders what all the fuss is about....)
Hey, you know those really long 18 page threads on the general board that the hattrickers tend to avoid most (not all) of the time? It's like one of those.

SI

[Poli]

I gotta agree with this. You want some powerful people, join KU. I think there's more GMs than there are normals ;)

But, man, I just started reading that thread from the end and it's a bloodbath. Yeesh. Whoever threw the fucking "elitists" in there, that was classic (NAIWF or The Afoci, I forget who) ;) I would think you could question the decision with just a simple knowledge of the rules- you don't have to have 10 seasons in MLS or Div II or anything.

SI


Just joined KU. :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't think I mentioned anything about slashers quitting in the conference, but I didn't realize that he meant to keep it private (as opposed to the tactical information, which was quite obviously privileged).

[sterlingice]

Just joined KU. :)
You'll notice a lot of celebrity there: more than 10 mods/GMs and a couple of other hattrick notables like Homarid. The leader is Havoc99, a really nice guy who helped me a ton when I started out.

SI

[TargetPractice6]

Okay guys:

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=21848

[The Afoci]

I don't think I mentioned anything about slashers quitting in the conference, but I didn't realize that he meant to keep it private (as opposed to the tactical information, which was quite obviously privileged).

No, it was this dink lav-hehe.

[vex]

No, it was this dink lav-hehe.

Isn't that DataKing's nemisis Croats in Miami?

[vex]

Well, ardent, it seems as if you induction into KU is going well.

[Poli]

Yeah, I really like it in there. I seem to fit in well. :)

[NAIWF]

I was the one that mentioned the elitists, although I didn't want to get fined by adding the "fucking" part. Slashers has proven to be a complete anus over the last 2 WC's, and I for one will be happy to see him gone.

As far as who is the next Nat'l trainer, I hate to say it, but it probably won't matter too much since we're falling farther behind the em, "elite" teams in HT as those nations keep expanding exponentially, while we get maybe a couple hundred new teams every few months, most of which become abandoned anyway. My series alone has seen about 7 or 8 managerial changes in just the last two and a half seasons.

[TargetPractice6]

We are an "elite" team in HT. 4000 is plenty of users to be competitive. I mean look at Canada. Also we are getting 100 signups every few days. The problem is getting people to stick around.

[terpkristin]

Hey, AE, since it appears you're going to be the FOFC nominee...if you were to come up with a short "AE for Trainer" annoucement, I'd make it my press announcement from when nominations start until the end of the election (not like there's anything ELSE interesting to put up there for awhile :D :p ).

~tk

[Poli]

I just want to be sure I am the nominee. I suppose I'll start a poll shortly.

[The Afoci]

I think that we should back AE. Not only will I be his Campaign manager, I will be the person who appeals to the "straight" hattrick player. He will cover the Navy. GM-George will provide the backing for people who only vote for people with GM in the title and whatnot. Add to the fact that AE might actually win a game or two this next season, it should make everything great.

[mckerney]

I think that we should back AE. Not only will I be his Campaign manager, I will be the person who appeals to the "straight" hattrick player. He will cover the Navy. GM-George will provide the backing for people who only vote for people with GM in the title and whatnot. Add to the fact that AE might actually win a game or two this next season, it should make everything great.

Very well spoken. And who knows, Ardent could win a game next season. It'd be a big step up from tying my scrubs in City Lights in the FOFC Cup this season.