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TargetPractice6
09-17-2003, 08:51 PM
Check out my cup match from tonight. It was an epic!

The Afoci
09-17-2003, 08:59 PM
Nice match. They feared the flying black beasts known as penguins.

TargetPractice6
09-17-2003, 09:05 PM
I noticed they had a couple cocky players during the penalty kicks. However, they clearly weren't funny. Maybe they need lessons from Hornsmaniac_2?

The Afoci
09-17-2003, 09:10 PM
Hornsmaniac_2 can teach many a player how to be cocky and funny. He will return to fulfill his destiny in my dynasty.

Poli
09-17-2003, 09:22 PM
I doubt that. I'll burn it's hair again.

JeeberD
09-18-2003, 12:58 AM
Does HM really have a Hattrick team? Or should I just stay the hell out of this forum since I understand next to nothing that goes on here...?

sterlingice
09-18-2003, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by TargetPractice6
Check out my cup match from tonight. It was an epic!

Epic-ly incompetent :p

Except your goalie. He needs a nickname.

SI

The Afoci
09-18-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by JeeberD
Does HM really have a Hattrick team? Or should I just stay the hell out of this forum since I understand next to nothing that goes on here...?

HM has no team, but is perhaps the best when it comes to Playmaking. Therefore he is my personal trainer on my squad. He does speaches at practices and parties. Really a handy guy to have around.

Fonzie
09-18-2003, 12:34 PM
That was an absolutely crazy end to the game. Does anyone know if a real-life soccer match has ever featured that many missed penalties?

terpkristin
09-18-2003, 01:15 PM
Real-life soccer games only have "missed penalties" in terms of things that "blind refs" miss (yes Robbgmaier...I'm talking about US). Heehee.

In real-life, even the best goalie will let in 1 in 5 unless they're having an ABSURDLEY UBER-DIVINE game (I've never seen it happen in over 15 years of involvement with the sport, neither at the amateur or pro or international level).

~tk

The Afoci
09-18-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by terpkristin
Real-life soccer games only have "missed penalties" in terms of things that "blind refs" miss (yes Robbgmaier...I'm talking about US). Heehee.

In real-life, even the best goalie will let in 1 in 5 unless they're having an ABSURDLEY UBER-DIVINE game (I've never seen it happen in over 15 years of involvement with the sport, neither at the amateur or pro or international level).

~tk

The previous message was written by someone who has been on pain killers for the last 15 years and is likely to contain large portions of content that was imagined in a drugged up stupor. Thank you.

DukeRulesMAB
09-18-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Fonzie
That was an absolutely crazy end to the game. Does anyone know if a real-life soccer match has ever featured that many missed penalties?

I've complained about this for a while, HT's penalty engine is completely ludicrous, there are far too many saves/misses.

TargetPractice6
09-18-2003, 03:27 PM
The HTs say this is because the set pieces skill is undervalued. Not many people go out of their way to make sure their team has great setpieces. My best started had weak SP last night (and I'd imagine his situation was similar considering all of the misses). The only exception would be the replacement that came in after my striker was injured (this replacement scored the winning goal). So couple this terrible SP with our rather decent keepers and you are going to see alot of misses. I doubt poor and wretched set pieces are going to be an outstanding keeper much of the time. This is why they made shooting train set pieces faster.

lytic
09-18-2003, 03:35 PM
See Beckys Babes... :p

sterlingice
09-18-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by lytic
See Beckys Babes... :p

I envy her team. That said, it's tough to kill a whole season doing SP or something like that, especially when you rotate players frequently trying to head up the series ladder. I mean, really, if you have a guy with solid PM, by the end of the year, he's formidable. That means his value (and your other five trainees) went from $200K to $1M as opposed to going from weak to divine SP which only gets you $200K-$400K per player. I suppose you could rig your financial model so it makes sense but it's tough to see it from here...

SI

Doug5984
09-18-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
I envy her team. That said, it's tough to kill a whole season doing SP or something like that, especially when you rotate players frequently trying to head up the series ladder. I mean, really, if you have a guy with solid PM, by the end of the year, he's formidable. That means his value (and your other five trainees) went from $200K to $1M as opposed to going from weak to divine SP which only gets you $200K-$400K per player. I suppose you could rig your financial model so it makes sense but it's tough to see it from here...

SI

That is very true that the value of the solid set pieces going up by about $300k- but the thing is you could carry a team of 33 players (3 full 11 man squads of players with solid primary) and train them ALL up to a very high set pieces and all of their resale values will go up by about $300k possibly more with a high primary. If you really wanted to do it you could make it work financially....It is something I am considering doing in a few seasons when I switch from defensive training to something else, a season of set pieces would help in the tranisition of sqitching training programs.

I am assuming set pieces training is like stamina in that a player does not need to play to recieve training, correct? if that is not the case and the player does need to play then you could only use 22 players...

sterlingice
09-18-2003, 04:03 PM
The problem with this theory is that you will butcher all of their forms in the process, thus destroying their resale value.

SI

lytic
09-18-2003, 11:08 PM
divine is divine regardless of form.

and yes they don't have to play to get the training.

sterlingice
09-19-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by lytic
divine is divine regardless of form.

and yes they don't have to play to get the training.

Yeah, but most people will stay away from buying players in poor form or at least they will pay significantly less. Which would you rather buy? A player you have to keep on your bench for at least half a season while you work back to form or one who you can plug in immediately? I like to snag poor form players off the transfer wire because you can get them for 30-50% less than what a player would go for normally- but if you're selling, that's a kiss of death.

SI

lytic
09-19-2003, 12:24 PM
Form doesn't effect Set Pieces... So if you buying it for Set Pieces, then the form doesn't really matter.

Granted I think she is crazy for doing it, but I guess it's kinda cool. I wouldn't want to train it.

Mr. Wednesday
09-20-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by sterlingice
The problem with this theory is that you will butcher all of their forms in the process, thus destroying their resale value.Seems to me you could do some sort of rotation system where the players you're working up to selling are in the starting lineup to bring their form back up and the newest trainees are sitting on the bench. Granted, it's not a recipe for success in friendlies or the cup.