It's really hard to believe that an actual meaningful game kicks off in about 40 hours or so.

Should be a good game, hopefully Steelers looking good in regular season.

You're going to go to all the trouble of adding the extra four words to pimp the Steelers, and you can't even add an extra three letters for maximum pompous grandiosity?

For shame. ;)

I'm hoping I can avoid spoilers and watch the replay Friday night my time.

This should be a good game. Timmons is hurt and probably won't play.

23-16 Steelers.

Will be at the Dolphins-Falcons game on Sunday. Fist time I've seen the Fins in person since the Marino era. Hoping for a good start to the season.

I'm always at King's Island Week 1 of the NFL season. We're gonna DVR the Colts game and watch it when we get home.

Steelers' James Harrison ... do not disturb (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09252/996496-66.stm)

Nice article on James Harrison.

They came at linebacker James Harrison in waves, and he flicked them aside as one might expect the NFL defensive player of the year to do. • One after the other, Harrison rejected them as if they were scatbacks trying to block his path to the quarterback. Only these did not occur on a football field, they were part of his swag for what he did on football fields last season. • They were offers of money in trade for his appearance or his autograph or his endorsement. It is the reward for the remarkable season Harrison had in 2008. • Yet, the two-time Steelers MVP was a hard sell, turning down "about 25, 30" such offers, according to agent Bill Parise. His reasoning: "James is James," Parise said. "James is not comfortable in a lot of those settings, and there's not a need to put him in them anymore."

The lack of need to grovel for outside income came in April when he signed a six-year contract worth $51.2 million, about $20 million of that in bonus money.

"I turned down a whole bunch of stuff," Harrison said. "Go here, do this and do that. I don't want to do nothing. I'm not interested, especially now, I don't really need it.

"I'm happy with the contract I have. And the kind of money I would get from that versus what I'd have to do, I'd probably have to sit there and talk to people."

Oh, no, not talk to people! Think skipping the White House visit and a chance to meet the president was a show of disrespect? Those who know Harrison claim it's just not so. He's private and admittedly shy. This overnight sensation at age 31 often does not react well to his newfound celebrity.
PG graphic: The Sack Master
PG photos: Anatomy of history

Two years ago, he was just another backup outside linebacker with the Steelers. Today, he owns their season sack record with 16, was league defensive player of the year and author of the longest play in Super Bowl history, a breathtaking 100-yard interception return for a touchdown to end the first half and very likely stem Arizona's upset bid.

There's also an impending book. Yes, this shy, private linebacker collaborated on a biography, perhaps because he had to talk only to its author, Bill Moushey (with Bill Parise). Titled "Never Give Up," a snarling Harrison is shown on its cover. It was Moushey, a former Post-Gazette writer, who suggested Harrison's shyness.

"I think he puts a somewhat impenetrable shield up to keep people away from him, borne out of an intense shyness," Moushey said. "He won't go in front of crowds, doesn't like to do that kind of stuff, unless it's involving kids. His fear of flying combined with his shyness has caused him pretty much to turn down anything people throw his way. He's been offered all kinds of headline appearances and he just doesn't do it."

Harrison, who is so intense he nearly knocked his quarterback out for the season by pushing 345-pound tackle Max Starks into Ben Roethlisberger's leg on the last day of training camp, also has a soft side. Of the field, of course.

"Absolutely," says end Brett Keisel, who plays next to Harrison on the right side of the NFL's No. 1 defense. "Watch him around his little boy and my son. My son was out here a couple of weeks ago; James came over and kissed him on the head.

"He's a great guy off the field, but on the field he's a complete animal. That's what we want. He's a big reason why we were great last year. His return in the Super Bowl speaks for itself. He has the heart to go that far -- that's a long way to run, but that's what he's built on, all heart."

Speaking from the heart, then, here are Harrison's thoughts, recounted for us, as he intercepted Kurt Warner's pass and ran with it. He already has acknowledged he was supposed to blitz on that play but saw something and hung back.

"After I picked it off, I didn't see anybody in front of me, I thought I had a clean touchdown. I'm like, 'I'm about to go.' All of a sudden there's a sea of white jerseys and then I saw a bunch of red jerseys and I said, 'Oh my goodness.' "

He needed some help and got it with blocks by quick-reacting teammates Deshea Townsend, Ike Taylor and LaMarr Woodley, among others.

"After Deshea blocked Kurt Warner I said, 'OK, I'm good.' He blocks him, then I got a bump from behind, I guess that was Ike hitting someone, I don't know who it was. Then somebody came from the side, a lineman or something. Then there was a running back [Woodley] knocked down, then another lineman after [Woodley] knocked him down, then a receiver. Like I said, I never saw Larry Fitzgerald until he actually hit me."

That occurred as he approached the end zone and wound up rolling onto Fitzgerald for the touchdown. Had he been short, the half would have ended without a chance at kicking a field goal. As with Franco Harris' Immaculate Reception, he might have had time to run out of bounds and given his team a shot at three points rather than gamble it all on the end zone or nothing.

"I'm not even thinking about running out of bounds," Harrison said. "I figured there was not enough time left, that was my whole reason for dropping back because they had to either throw a quick in or out into the end zone because they could not afford to get caught in bounds; they had no timeouts left."

Had it not been for Fitzgerald's late scores and Santonio Holmes' winning touchdown catch, Harrison might have added Super Bowl MVP to his late-blooming resume. No matter. He's happy with what he has, but in no way content. He's as determined to show he's not a fluke as much as he was determined to make it in the first place.

"He's more motivated to prove his critics wrong, that he might be a one-year wonder," said friend and safety Tyrone Carter. "He's always been motivated, but this will give him an extra edge as well because you know he's going to have naysayers: 'He had one good year, what's he going to do once he got money?' "

Harrison, who was back working out at the Steelers' facility days after they won Super Bowl XLIII, will tell you what he's going to do, or at least plans to do.

"I believe anything can be topped. That's why they make records. How do I do that? I come in and train and get better in every area, learning defense, what my position is as far as where I'm supposed to be on certain defenses to better help myself and my teammates. It may not be me getting better numbers, it may be me being in better position to help other people."

Just as long as those people are his teammates, or the kids he serves through the Beaver County YMCA without fanfare. The rest? Please leave him alone, even if you come carrying gifts. Harrison does not want gifts and he certainly does not want to have to talk to anyone to get them.

It's a shame that "6 time" wouldn't fit in the title as well.

The Titans have beaten the Steelers 4 of the last five times and I expect them to be ready to play. I hate to give predictions but the Titans have a vastly improved passing game as long as the players are healthy enough to play:) Titans 27-23

The Titans have beaten the Steelers 4 of the last five times and I expect them to be ready to play. I hate to give predictions but the Titans have a vastly improved passing game as long as the players are healthy enough to play:) Titans 27-23

Vastly improved? Am I missing something in their passing game?

Pittsburgh blah blah blah

hxxp://deadspin.com/5354828/why-your-team-sucks-pittsburgh-steelers

Fun thing is, my boss is a huge Steelers fan. We got to show him that today, and got him all riled up. Fun times. :)

hxxp://deadspin.com/5354828/why-your-team-sucks-pittsburgh-steelers

Fun thing is, my boss is a huge Steelers fan. We got to show him that today, and got him all riled up. Fun times. :)

Just because you didn't like Kordell on the Bears, don't go hating on an awesome team.

Just because you didn't like Kordell on the Bears, don't go hating on an awesome team.

Dude, we had Rick Mirer and Cade McNown. You think Kordell gets me?

Dude, we had Rick Mirer and Cade McNown. You think Kordell gets me?

;) I'm jealous of Sexy Rexy.

I'm always at King's Island Week 1 of the NFL season. We're gonna DVR the Colts game and watch it when we get home.

I know where you or someone you know works....

hxxp://deadspin.com/5354828/why-your-team-sucks-pittsburgh-steelers

Fun thing is, my boss is a huge Steelers fan. We got to show him that today, and got him all riled up. Fun times. :)

Dude, i hate most steeler fans too. I never realized how bad the invalids were until I moved back here. There's a difference between being a homer and being an insane uneducated moron for your team. Steeler flags on your car, steeler shirts in church. Kids dressed up in jersey's year round. I mean, cmon, that's just stupid.

Dude, i hate most steeler fans too. I never realized how bad the invalids were until I moved back here. There's a difference between being a homer and being an insane uneducated moron for your team. Steeler flags on your car, steeler shirts in church. Kids dressed up in jersey's year round. I mean, cmon, that's just stupid.

Eh, to be honest, I think every team has its collection of moron fans.

I just couldn't resist posting that article when I saw this thread. :)

Looking forward to this game and a great NFL season. Steelers win 17-10.

Vastly improved? Am I missing something in their passing game?

They have the same offensive lineman and QBs which is not a bad thing. TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here. The RBs are improved as well with a leaner White, more experienced Johnson and the addition of Michigan St. stand out Javon Ringer to spell them here they are improved. Now at Wr they have replaced Justin McCariens with ex-Steeler wdeout Washington and have replaced Brandon Jones with Kenny Brit. Justin Gage had a great preseason and is healthy. Also, there is a few other WRs that were added in the draft late that appear to be able to contribute. So, I "vastly"{ improved maybe a strecth but they certainly are not hampered like in the past by a poor passing game any more.

They have the same offensive lineman and QBs which is not a bad thing. TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here. The RBs are improved as well with a leaner White, more experienced Johnson and the addition of Michigan St. stand out Javon Ringer to spell them here they are improved. Now at Wr they have replaced Justin McCariens with ex-Steeler wdeout Washington and have replaced Brandon Jones with Kenny Brit. Justin Gage had a great preseason and is healthy. Also, there is a few other WRs that were added in the draft late that appear to be able to contribute. So, I "vastly"{ improved maybe a strecth but they certainly are not hampered like in the past by a poor passing game any more.

Alright, I can buy the "improved" logic. I just thought I was missing something when I read "vastly improved." (I have Chris Johnson and LenDale White in leagues, so I'm banking on them running a lot).

Apparently in Pittsburgh it is okay to wear a Steeler jersey to work when you have to give a big presentation to a customer.

Apparently in Pittsburgh it is okay to wear a Steeler jersey to work when you have to give a big presentation to a customer.

Awesome!

hxxp://deadspin.com/5354828/why-your-team-sucks-pittsburgh-steelers

Pretty much complete truth here.

Steeler fans ruin watching games at bars. No other fanbase has 40 year old men shrieking like teenage girls at a boyband concert after six yard runs up the middle or false starts by the other team. Terrible.

I'm a big Steeler homer, and that Deadspin article was hilarious.

[TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here.[/ QUOTE]

He's the 4th TE, likely to be inactive, and who (other than Tenn fans/media) said he was better than Pettigrew?

[QUOTE=Galaril;2113504]The RBs are improved as well .

One could perhaps make a reasonable argument that their RB's are, I don't know, the same guys? Since, you know, they're the same guys.

Javon Ringer .

4th string, likely to be inactive

Now at Wr they have replaced Justin McCariens with ex-Steeler wdeout Washington and have replaced Brandon Jones with Kenny Brit. Justin Gage had a great preseason and is healthy..

Their solution at WR was to bring in a #3 caliber guy to be #1. He's been injured, so give them a pass on that not working out.

Kenny Britt has proven what? I think he will be better than Brandon Jones, but he has yet to prove even that.

The bottom line is Justin Gage is the #1 WR. This is never good.

Also, there is a few other WRs that were added in the draft late that appear to be able to contribute. .

Only Dominique Edison made the roster. This is going to help give them a better passing game?

they certainly are not hampered like in the past by a poor passing game any more.

Sorry, none of the things you mention appear to likely to make a difference. The possible exception is Britt. He could really be something special - but even WRs who end up being that rarely make a difference as rookies.

Bottom line: A rational examination suggests the Titans will still be hampered by a poor passing game.

Last year I was in LA for the Rose Bowl and i went to a bar on Rodondo Beach...wouldn't you know it was a fuckin steelers bar. I flew 3000 miles to get away and I still end up with Steelers shit around me.

Dola...and my favorite line...

2. Most annoying fans at the bar? Most annoying fans at the bar. You'd think Eagles fans would have this title all sewn up. You'd be incorrect. Stop by any bar on a Sunday afternoon this fall and you will be treated to a large number of Steelers shouting out pointless shit like, "FUCKING BIG BEN!" or "HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!" or "THAT'S MY BOY, JAMES HARRISON!" It says something about a franchise when Terry Bradshaw is its most insightful representative.

Dola...and my favorite line...

2. Most annoying fans at the bar? Most annoying fans at the bar. You'd think Eagles fans would have this title all sewn up. You'd be incorrect. Stop by any bar on a Sunday afternoon this fall and you will be treated to a large number of Steelers shouting out pointless shit like, "FUCKING BIG BEN!" or "HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!" or "THAT'S MY BOY, JAMES HARRISON!" It says something about a franchise when Terry Bradshaw is its most insightful representative.

I don't care if people make fun of the Steelers really, I just don't get how this is funny? I run across the same thing for fans of every team in every sport (I mean, I haven't seen fans of every team in every sport, but if I'm somewhere with a bunch of Colts and Pats fans, there will be random dudes shouting out crap like the above).

It's funny cause it is true, yet you'll be hard pressed to find a fan besides SteveW and even SR would agree, that will admit to it.. Pittsburgh fans are quick to point out that they are classy fans and don't act like Eagles fan who are obnoxious. Meanwhile they are the only ones who see that.

And it has rubbed off on their other team the Pens. Pens fans use to be great to talk to, now since they are good again you can see the ones who have come on board who act like Steeler fans. I imagine that will happen with the Pirates too, but again since they suck, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who admits they are a Pirate fan...that shit aint cool by them.

It's funny cause it is true, yet you'll be hard pressed to find a fan besides SteveW and even SR would agree, that will admit to it.. Pittsburgh fans are quick to point out that they are classy fans and don't act like Eagles fan who are obnoxious. Meanwhile they are the only ones who see that.

And it has rubbed off on their other team the Pens. Pens fans use to be great to talk to, now since they are good again you can see the ones who have come on board who act like Steeler fans. I imagine that will happen with the Pirates too, but again since they suck, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who admits they are a Pirate fan...that shit aint cool by them.

Alright. Well, I don't live around the heart of Steelers fans so I can't argue anything. I just made an observation that a lot of fans for other teams and sports do the same thing (and if I'm out with friends watching I'll yell out stupid comments like that too, but they do the same for their teams).

Dude, i hate most steeler fans too. I never realized how bad the invalids were until I moved back here. There's a difference between being a homer and being an insane uneducated moron for your team. Steeler flags on your car, steeler shirts in church. Kids dressed up in jersey's year round. I mean, cmon, that's just stupid.
youve never met a redskins fan have you?

Fuck Shitz-burgh

[[QUOTE=Galaril;2113504]TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here.[/ QUOTE]

He's the 4th TE, likely to be inactive, and who (other than Tenn fans/media) said he was better than Pettigrew?



One could perhaps make a reasonable argument that their RB's are, I don't know, the same guys? Since, you know, they're the same guys.



4th string, likely to be inactive



Their solution at WR was to bring in a #3 caliber guy to be #1. He's been injured, so give them a pass on that not working out.

Kenny Britt has proven what? I think he will be better than Brandon Jones, but he has yet to prove even that.

The bottom line is Justin Gage is the #1 WR. This is never good.



Only Dominique Edison made the roster. This is going to help give them a better passing game?



Sorry, none of the things you mention appear to likely to make a difference. The possible exception is Britt. He could really be something special - but even WRs who end up being that rarely make a difference as rookies.

Bottom line: A rational examination suggests the Titans will still be hampered by a poor passing game.


You maybe right on most of what you said. I would correct you on the RBs that Ringer played great albiet preseaon and is going to be active to return kicks and is the #3 RB passing Henry. Edison is looking like he could be a real surprise and will probably be the #3 WR tonight. Lastly years recievers were woeful and so they are now definitely improved and in any case the Steelers I think will offer d ecent challenge on the defense. The bottom line is I think the Titans can score more on the Steelers D than the Steelers offense can score on the Titans D. I will agree that the Titans weakest area is the passing game and the Steelers weakest area is there o-line. Remember last year the Titans sacked Ben 5 times and caused 4 turnovers though it was in Ten. that was without Haynesworth.

I don't care if people make fun of the Steelers really, I just don't get how this is funny? I run across the same thing for fans of every team in every sport (I mean, I haven't seen fans of every team in every sport, but if I'm somewhere with a bunch of Colts and Pats fans, there will be random dudes shouting out crap like the above).

As a Steelers fan, I agree with you. If another team would have won the super bowl last year, people would be talking about how shitty that team's fans act. I have not been around the main Steeler fan base either, and I am sure that they act like asshats, but this can be said of any fan base of any team in any sport. Especially one that is winning.

There's actually a pretty big contingent that believes Cook will be the best TE of this class.

Cook might be the best pure receiving TE but Pettigrew is a load on the block. He is going to be a dominating all around TE.

I think the refs in XL enjoy Stealers fans at the bars...

Stealers

nice

One side benefit of Pittsburgh winning the Super Bowl last year is now everyone is complaining about Steelers fans rather than Patriots fans.

There's actually a pretty big contingent that believes Cook will be the best TE of this class.

Can you quote them?

Even if that is true (and the people that matter think he'll be the third best TE, which is still pretty good) its not like he's going to give them a huge improvement in their passing game this year. Reasons for that being that the Titans have a pretty good passing-to-the-TE game already. Without checking, I'd guess they were among the best in the league last season. Because they had pretty good TE's last year (and lousy WRs). Those TE are still there. Cook has virtually no chance to improve that aspect of their offense (one they are trying to downgrade, mind you). And ZERO chance to help that aspect of their passing game tonight (he's not playing).

Galaril - you in part make my point for me. I had heard Edison looks like a steal and will be a real player, along with Britt looking like the best WR in the class. But, having one rookies starting at WR and another at #3 means you are weak at WR. They just don't make much of an impact.

I find the discussion of "most annoying fans" funny. I think people tend to think that the fans of the teams they hate the most are the most annoying. And when those teams are successful, their fans enjoying it are even more annoying.

Can you quote them?

Even if that is true (and the people that matter think he'll be the third best TE, which is still pretty good) its not like he's going to give them a huge improvement in their passing game this year. Reasons for that being that the Titans have a pretty good passing-to-the-TE game already. Without checking, I'd guess they were among the best in the league last season. Because they had pretty good TE's last year (and lousy WRs). Those TE are still there. Cook has virtually no chance to improve that aspect of their offense (one they are trying to downgrade, mind you). And ZERO chance to help that aspect of their passing game tonight (he's not playing).

Galaril - you in part make my point for me. I had heard Edison looks like a steal and will be a real player, along with Britt looking like the best WR in the class. But, having one rookies starting at WR and another at #3 means you are weak at WR. They just don't make much of an impact.

I find the discussion of "most annoying fans" funny. I think people tend to think that the fans of the teams they hate the most are the most annoying. And when those teams are successful, their fans enjoying it are even more annoying.


That is just anm opinion and not always true though usually I guess this is why they play the games good luck to your team anyways.

That is just anm opinion

That rookie WRs don't usually make much of an impact????

Uhhh

That rookie WRs don't usually make much of an impact????

Uhhh
Usually yes but not always. Jerry Rice first season stats: 49 receptions for 927 at 18.9 avg.

I find the discussion of "most annoying fans" funny. I think people tend to think that the fans of the teams they hate the most are the most annoying. And when those teams are successful, their fans enjoying it are even more annoying.

Exactly.

Usually yes but not always. Jerry Rice first season stats: 49 receptions for 927 at 18.9 avg.

Randy Moss was even better!

I agree - if Britt is as good as a rookie as Rice or Moss, the Titans will have a vastly improved passing game.

If, however, he proves not to be as good as the 2 all-pro-as-rookie WRs of the last 25 years, the Titans could indeed be limited in the passing game yet again.

Actually considering that Jones was their #2, Britt is almost assured of being an upgrade.

Usually yes but not always. Jerry Rice first season stats: 49 receptions for 927 at 18.9 avg.

Sure, but are the odds in favor of the Titans having drafted two HoF WRs (not all of which have good first seasons mind you) or having drafted typical rookie receiver 1 and 2? The Titans' WRs are going to be a huge weakness this season just like last season unless they get uncommon production from WRs that haven't proven themselves to be starting caliber ones.

I have Britt in the FOFC Keeper League. If he's the next Jerry Rice, yay.

I have Britt in the FOFC Keeper League. If he's the next Jerry Rice, yay.

I do think he'll be the best WR from this class (since Crabtree is looking more and more like a WR from the 2010 class. I also think he's a rookie WR, which means he'll have some games where he looks like a HoF'er, and some where you wonder if he is dressed.

Rice wasn´t even that impressive historically :
ESPN.com: Page 2 : The best rookie receivers ever (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=list/rookiereceivers)

just in case you want to shoot any higher later in the year ;)

Fuck Shitz-burgh

Fuck them with Anthony's Dick.

In the ass.

Bills are still cleaning up the shop. They released starting LT Langston Walker (who moved over from RT to LT this year to take Peters' position) with Demetrius Bell taking over and brought back OT Kirk Chambers to back-up.

Now it appears that OT Jon Runyan is coming in Buffalo tomorrow to work out.

[TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here.

He's the 4th TE, likely to be inactive, and who (other than Tenn fans/media) said he was better than Pettigrew?



One could perhaps make a reasonable argument that their RB's are, I don't know, the same guys? Since, you know, they're the same guys.



4th string, likely to be inactive



Their solution at WR was to bring in a #3 caliber guy to be #1. He's been injured, so give them a pass on that not working out.

Kenny Britt has proven what? I think he will be better than Brandon Jones, but he has yet to prove even that.

The bottom line is Justin Gage is the #1 WR. This is never good.



Only Dominique Edison made the roster. This is going to help give them a better passing game?



Sorry, none of the things you mention appear to likely to make a difference. The possible exception is Britt. He could really be something special - but even WRs who end up being that rarely make a difference as rookies.

Bottom line: A rational examination suggests the Titans will still be hampered by a poor passing game.

1) Stevens is a solid blocking TE and a long term project. Cook may be 4, but they run alot of 2 TE sets, so I wouldn't be shocked if he's active.
People have said he may be the best due to his camp perfomances and the potential he's shown. Word is he's been making 'circus' catches left and right.

2) They added Ringer to their RBs, and he's been a steal. Adding them gives a EarthWindFire-esque combo, with Johnson's speed, White's strength/power, and Ringer's shiftyness.

3) Gage is their No.1, Washington 2, Britt 3 (if I remember right).
The Titans have big play guys in Gage and Washington, which is what they need. Washington stretches the field, and Gage gets plays by being 'forgotten'. Britt shows potential, but needs time, and for now, that's fine. The Titans run 2 TE sets alot, so Scaife and Crumpler will be getting most of the looks in the passing game.
Our passing game isn't or 'main' option, it's just designed to be efficient and good enough to warrant respect, opening the run.

4) The young receivers have shown alot of promise during the preseason, and Edison is only one of the good changes they made there. They also released Williams (at last) giving them the ability to work these young guys in. This year was a VERY deep year for WRs, so it shouldn't be a surprise for a team to have 2 starting caliber guys from this year's draft in the works.

Though I respect your logic, I must disagree.

The passing game never truly 'hampered' the Titans, as when they needed to rely upon it, it came through for the most part. The one notable exception was against the Jets... But when Favre is ripping your secondary a new one, it almost doesn't matter what you can do on offense...

Their passing game is much better, as the depth has expanded a great deal, and the potential will show flashes that will have an impact. Remember, Johnson and White surprised alot of folks to begin with, which led to them doing so well. Now teams expect them and will try and stack the box. Cook, Ringer, Britt and Washingtton will not allow them to do so.

Quick word about Cook.

He may not be considered the "best" TE, considering I don't know how well he does blocking. But as a receiving TE, he's been scary good for a rookie.

+ Edison #3? Not yet... Britt will back up Washington, I'm sure of that... Maybe he's considered a better slot guy though... I wouldn't be surprised.

+ Just checked, Ringer is no. 4 RB, apparently Henry has finally shown something...?

When the fuck does this game start already? While we are young, NFL/NBC.

anyone else got chills?!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!

Jesus what a tackle by Troy

Polamalu is a friggin' beast.

A roughness tackle? One foot out of bounds less than a second before contact. Refs are a little tight early in the season.

Another good play by Troy

Ugly start for both teams. Good hits, but there ought to be points on the board, one way or the other.

Geez the "O" line for the Steelers looks worse than I already thought.

Fuck Shitz-burgh

Fuck them with Anthony's Dick.

In the ass.

You live in Buffalo, and your calling Pittsburgh shit???? Thats just too funny there ;)

Wow, nice pick....

OMG

Holy crap

Geez the "O" line for the Steelers looks worse than I already thought.

I am feeling the same way. Max Starks?? WTF.

You live in Buffalo, and your calling Pittsburgh shit???? Thats just too funny there ;)

Don't let him bait you. Oh, too late.

Damn... Polamalu looking good in season.

Fucking Big Ben looks horrid. When will the Steeler offense stop being inept?

Not a good pass by Big Ben, easy pick

Ouch

I am feeling the same way. Max Starks?? WTF.



Don't let him bait you. Oh, too late.

its all in good fun!!!

But your right what the hell was starks doing. Him and Essex need to wake up here soon at some point

Man, the pass protection is pretty horrid by Pitt.

Is Cowher calling plays for the offense now? This is pathetic.

Run blocking not so good either,

Parker, 5 carries, -1 yard

they finally get a decent run and it is brought back for holding.

For fuck's sake why did they keep Starks again?

Edit: nice catch.

Nice first quarter stats Ten 93 yards Pitts. 1-but no score

I hope the officiating gets better, this is ridiculous. Even Collinsworth says so. Also, how the hell do these penalties offset? An illegal formation makes it a dead play, thus the interference would not matter.

I hope the officiating gets better, this is ridiculous. Even Collinsworth says so. Also, how the hell do these penalties offset? An illegal formation makes it a dead play, thus the interference would not matter.

lmao ... refs not looking good in early season.

And how was that d-PI??? hahahahaha.

I am usually of the opinion that if the defender is playing the ball, then there should not be pass interference. Troy looked like he was tracking the ball there.

Wow. Just wow.

Congrats on your first catch Kenny!

I hope the officiating gets better, this is ridiculous. Even Collinsworth says so. Also, how the hell do these penalties offset? An illegal formation makes it a dead play, thus the interference would not matter.

Here comes the Steelers fans whining.....

Illegal formation is not a dead play, they correctly offset.

I hope the officiating gets better, this is ridiculous. Even Collinsworth says so. Also, how the hell do these penalties offset? An illegal formation makes it a dead play, thus the interference would not matter.

Good job by Collinsworth for pointing that out after Michaels said "no harm, no foul." I've always hated how commentators refuse to point out when their partners say something stupid.

edit: Like EF said, I'm referring to how he said it should have been 3rd and 7...not just a redo.

WOW,blocked field goal

Here comes the Steelers fans whining.....

Illegal formation is not a dead play, they correctly offset.

HAHAHAHA..........

Can someone explain why on the holding penalty on Ward on Parker's nice run the Steelers ended up with 2nd & 6. the holding was in the backfield and the run was on 2nd &1.

Over/under for the number of Jay Leno commercials tonight... I think I have seen 1/2 dozen already.

Here comes the Steelers fans whining.....

Illegal formation is not a dead play, they correctly offset.

Yeah if you are going to bitch about a rule, make sure you are right.

Yeah if you are going to bitch about a rule, make sure you are right.

Well least people cant say well the refs are handing us the super bowl this time :rolleyes:

Yeah if you are going to bitch about a rule, make sure you are right.

Yeah I was incorrect. Throwing out the standard "________ fan is bitching" card never gets old though.

Well least people cant say well the refs are handing us the super bowl this time :rolleyes:

Yeah because that was already done :)

Man, the Madden curse might get Polumalu tonight.

Can someone explain why on the holding penalty on Ward on Parker's nice run the Steelers ended up with 2nd & 6. the holding was in the backfield and the run was on 2nd &1.

I didn't see the play (heard it on the radio). Holding is usually a spot foul and you cant get a first down on a hold (just like you can't get an INT with "Dirty hands")...replay the down and march off 10 yards from teh spot.

Finally, TD. Should be at least 7-6, Pittsburgh, right now though.

Man, the Madden curse might get Polumalu tonight.

Larry Fitzgerald better watch out.

I didn't see the play (heard it on the radio). Holding is usually a spot foul and you cant get a first down on a hold (just like you can't get an INT with "Dirty hands")...replay the down and march off 10 yards from teh spot.

Got it. I must've been mistaken abouat where the holding took place. I thought it was closer to the point of attack.

Britt is certainly looking good.

Nice play by the Titans, but that Steeler secondary is looking awful.

Britt is certainly looking good.

Yup, someone had said the Titans wrs were improved...hmm I wonder who?:p
Anyways great game so far. I have probably already scared my kids for life screamimg explictives.

Yup, someone had said the Titans wrs were improved...hmm I wonder who?:p
Anyways great game so far. I have probably already scared my kids for life screamimg explictives.

Is Nate Washinton even playing???

Big Ben is in love with pump fake now

Who was that guy running ahead of Finnegan? He wasn't blocking anyone.

Britt is certainly looking good.

I love it.

He is going to be a beast, One of my best friends works for the Rutgers football team and told me Britt is better then Crabtree. So far so good.

Does anyone else think Cris Collinsworth is being a little partial so far?

Does anyone else think Cris Collinsworth is being a little partial so far?

Thank you............. Geez get Madden back on the fucking bus please!!!!!

I'm waiting for him to tell us that the girl's assertion that Big Ben doesn't live up to his nickname is untrue.

Who was that guy running ahead of Finnegan? He wasn't blocking anyone.

That would have been devastating for the Steelers if he had run that thing back 101 yards for an INT return. Why the hell didn't he lateral?:(

Not going to look for the quote, but that Leno over/under will be destroyed. Back to back commercials now!

Is Nate Washinton even playing???

He's been in the slot. He was injured (hamstring) and was probable for tonight.

That would have been devastating for the Steelers if he had run that thing back 101 yards for an INT return. Why the hell didn't he lateral?:(

Cause the guy in front (Michael Griffin I think...) was supposed to block.


Good game so far Steelers, ya'll are fortunate we've been screwing up though. Score should be 7-6 (maybe even 7-13).
Great job for picking up our line stunts though as the half went on. I'm impressed...
But we're gonna start blitzing soon though... Good luck :P

Polumalu is out for the game.

What happened to him?

on the blocked FG, Crumpler fell on Polamalu's leg.

Ouch...hope he's ok.

My brother in law called it an MCL sprain right as it happened. Alge Crumpler fell on his knee as Polamalu tried recovering the blocked kick. We'll see...

Man the Steelers use to be built on the run and they are struggling rushing the ball.

Man the Steelers use to be built on the run and they are struggling rushing the ball.

its sick how bad their line is

its sick how bad their line is

It sure is. Need to improve O-line play, secondary play, and the running game. Oh, and limit Big Ben to, say, 12 pump fakes per series.

oops

Whoops

SI

ohhh wow, well the game was going to end.....

Hooray for Whines Hard!! :)

You know, I don't really have a dog in this fight except that I still am pretty bitter about Bud Adams for stealing my team away. But Pittsbugh seems awfully full of themselves, at least in the time I have been watching. Granted that has only been the last 5 or so minutes of the game and OT, but, the bragging about first downs is really getting old. Maybe it's just a product of the trophy and ring thing tonight, tho.

SI

In Non Steelers-Titans news:

Apparently the Raiders have confirmed that the Seymour trade is complete, as they have sent Seymour his five day notice, if he fails to report, he will be suspended for the year without pay.

If the Steelers can't run the ball at all, ever, they are going to struggle to win the division.

You know, I don't really have a dog in this fight except that I still am pretty bitter about Bud Adams for stealing my team away. But Pittsbugh seems awfully full of themselves, at least in the time I have been watching. Granted that has only been the last 5 or so minutes of the game and OT, but, the bragging about first downs is really getting old. Maybe it's just a product of the trophy and ring thing tonight, tho.

SI

And if they do get cocky, they won't win a title. A team far more hungry will knock them off.

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In Non Steelers-Titans news:

Apparently the Raiders have confirmed that the Seymour trade is complete, as they have sent Seymour his five day notice, if he fails to report, he will be suspended for the year without pay.

I have a hard time seeing Seymour win this one. If he doesn't play along, Al can just sit him for a year and Seymour won't move towards free agency. I could see Al saying "You play with us, or no one" pretty easily. Who is going to blink first between Davis and Seymour? I'm not sure that Davis even has eyelids.

Don't forget how the Steelers line looked like crap last year after the Eagles sacked Ben 15 times in one game. They have time to turn it around.

I have a hard time seeing Seymour win this one. If he doesn't play along, Al can just sit him for a year and Seymour won't move towards free agency. I could see Al saying "You play with us, or no one" pretty easily.

Seymour would probably just retire, although I am not sure how that would affect his pension, if at all.

Who is going to blink first between Davis and Seymour? I'm not sure that Davis even has eyelids.

This has been confirmed.

I have a hard time seeing Seymour win this one. If he doesn't play along, Al can just sit him for a year and Seymour won't move towards free agency. I could see Al saying "You play with us, or no one" pretty easily. Who is going to blink first between Davis and Seymour? I'm not sure that Davis even has eyelids.

NFL owners tend to take a hard line on this issue - if they let players nullify a trade by not showing up, they effectively give all NFL players an absolute no trade clause without collectively bargaining it (and getting something back in return). Both teams (and the entire league) would give up Richard Seymour before they would give up the ability to trade players they have under contract.

They really should just go uptempo and pass a lot. The steelers line sucks. But their 2 top receivers are good at making reads

You live in Buffalo, and your calling Pittsburgh shit???? Thats just too funny there ;)



Cincinnati fan. Research the people you try to insult.

Cincinnati fan. Research the people you try to insult.

You do live in Buffalo. He was referring to the cities, not their respect National Football League teams. Research yourself before you try to defend yourself.

You do live in Buffalo. He was referring to the cities, not their respect National Football League teams. Research yourself before you try to defend yourself.


So I'm the moron because someone tried to insult where I live when the topic of cities wasn't even brought up?...k, thanks for helping me understand that you can't read for comprehension any better than he can ;)

If the best he can do is insult the city I live in maybe he needs to do what I said before, learn about who you're insulting so you don't make a fracking ass of yourself. ;)

Ohio State sucks!

So I'm the moron because someone tried to insult where I live when the topic of cities wasn't even brought up?...k, thanks for helping me understand that you can't read for comprehension any better than he can ;)

If the best he can do is insult the city I live in maybe he needs to do what I said before, learn about who you're insulting so you don't make a fracking ass of yourself. ;)

Why are you such an asshat to everyone? Just askin'....;)

So I'm the moron because someone tried to insult where I live when the topic of cities wasn't even brought up?...k, thanks for helping me understand that you can't read for comprehension any better than he can ;)

If the best he can do is insult the city I live in maybe he needs to do what I said before, learn about who you're insulting so you don't make a fracking ass of yourself. ;)

Uh, you do realize Pittsburgh is a city and not just some adjective modifying the word Steelers, right?

You didn't say "Fuck the Steelers", you said "Fuck Shitz-burgh", so muns reply was a reasonable interpretation of your statement and, as we all know, author's are responsible for any reasonable interpretation of their works. ;)

CHECK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF, FOOL!!

Uh, you do realize Pittsburgh is a city and not just some adjective modifying the word Steelers, right?

You didn't say "Fuck the Steelers", you said "Fuck Shitz-burgh", so muns reply was a reasonable interpretation of your statement and, as we all know, author's are responsible for any reasonable interpretation of their works. ;)


Ok, I know you're really not this stupid. SO honestly, you protracting out this argument just to be a fuckwit is rather silly.

No shit it is also a city, however, we're in a thread about the NFL, we're talking about two teams playing on opening night, one of which is the Stealers.

Now in all seriousness, if you can't figure out I'm talking about the team and not the city then you're about as bright as a dead light bulb buried in that landfill the stealers call home ;)

There are two options here A) muns knew exactly what he was doing and is simply an asshole looking to rile me up, or B) he honestly thought I meant the city and in such a case needs to learn to comprehend what he reads.

Either way I'm not the dipstick in the situation and I corrected the initial error by said poster.

Stop causing problems =)

Ohio State sucks!

What he said.

Why are you such an asshat to everyone? Just askin'....;)


I'm honest. I treat you all the same. If you're a dumbass I will treat you as a dumbass. If you're not I will treat you accordingly. I don't play the touchy feely play nice bunny-loving treehugger candy ass bullshit that everyone seems to think is required around here. If you want to call me out on something you had best know what the fuck your talking about or I'll slap you in the face with your stupidity.

I expect the same from everyone in return. just be prepared and have your shit straight. is that too much to ask?

Ohio State sucks!


tOSU is definitely not as strong this season. I dread tomorrows game but thats a discussion for a different thread.

Ohio State sucks!

Are you really Lendale White?

A) muns knew exactly what he was doing and is simply an asshole looking to rile me up

Reading the quote by you that started all this, all I have to say is Pot, meet Kettle.

I don't play the touchy feely play nice bunny-loving treehugger candy ass bullshit that everyone seems to think is required around here.

Or, as normal people call it, civility.

Reading the quote by you that started all this, all I have to say is Pot, meet Kettle.


Go back to culinary college and learn the differences in pots and kettles then.

If this is the case he was trying to get me going, I was simply slapping him down for being an ass in trying to do so. It was unnecessary and inflammatory as well as off topic.

let it go already.

Are you really Lendale White?

Ed Hoculi

Or, as normal people call it, civility.

No see, there is civility, which I've shown you even with your obvious choice to continue trying to get me to blow up about this.

Muns insulted my home, out of the blue, with no intent OTHER than to insult me directly. I'm assuming he had nothing better to go with so he got personal after I insulted the stealers.

I don't have to be Civil in that scenario. I don't have to play nice. I don't have to conform to you personal view of ass kissery. Get over it. Or if you'd rather not, join the others that ignore my posts altogether and save yourself the embarrassment.

I'm honest. I treat you all the same. If you're a dumbass I will treat you as a dumbass. If you're not I will treat you accordingly. I don't play the touchy feely play nice bunny-loving treehugger candy ass bullshit that everyone seems to think is required around here. If you want to call me out on something you had best know what the fuck your talking about or I'll slap you in the face with your stupidity.

I expect the same from everyone in return. just be prepared and have your shit straight. is that too much to ask?

I am going to try my hand at this...

Fuck the Cincishitty Bengirls!

Boom. Roasted.

It was unnecessary and inflammatory

Snicker. You need some money for a mirror?

Fuck Shitz-burgh

Fuck Shitz-burgh

Fuck them with Anthony's Dick.

In the ass.

No see, there is civility, which I've shown you even with your obvious choice to continue trying to get me to blow up about this.

Muns insulted my home, out of the blue, with no intent OTHER than to insult me directly. I'm assuming he had nothing better to go with so he got personal after I insulted the stealers.

I don't have to be Civil in that scenario. I don't have to play nice. I don't have to conform to you personal view of ass kissery. Get over it. Or if you'd rather not, join the others that ignore my posts altogether and save yourself the embarrassment.

You tried to goad someone into an argument, not once, but twice with your insults, then you have the balls to get pissed when someone calls you out on it?

You must be a very unhappy person. Or a Bengals fan. ZOING!

Ed Hoculi

Bullshit...you never went to UTEP!

I am going to try my hand at this...

Fuck the Cincishitty Bengirls!

Boom. Roasted.



See now I can respect that, at least you tried. You failed, but you tried. ;)

You tried to goad someone into an argument, not once, but twice with your insults, then you have the balls to get pissed when someone calls you out on it?

You must be a very unhappy person. Or a Bengals fan. ZOING!


Who was I goading into anything? You're saying I was intentionally trying to inflame EVERY SINGLE shitzburgh fan? Ok maybe, but still ;) I stand by the fact that I was insulting the team, which is not a direct attack on anyone. I called out Muns for a direct personal attack at me. Since he doesn't know me (not having sen him post much at all) I assume he simply had nothing better than a personal attack to use and I pointed out his error. I'm really not seeing what the issue is here other than some folks thinking I'm just being too mean to people. They can get over it.

I am not an unhappy person at all, I am very secure in who I am and what I love and believe in. I'm also, as someone else pointed out in another thread, very abrasive. You either accept me as I am or you put me on ingore and we never have to have such a discussion ever again ;)

I'm good either way!

Who was I goading into anything? You're saying I was intentionally trying to inflame EVERY SINGLE shitzburgh fan? Ok maybe, but still ;)

I am not an unhappy person at all, I am very secure in who I am and what I love and believe in. I'm also, as someone else pointed out in another thread, very abrasive. You either accept me as I am or you put me on ingore and we never have to have such a discussion ever again ;)

I'm good either way!

I have nobody on ignore, that is the pussy way out of a good fight. Now, I can't speak for others though. ;)

I have nobody on ignore, that is the pussy way out of a good fight. Now, I can't speak for others though. ;)


Thats very big of you. I tend to get a good laugh out of the fact that I made the top 5 most ignored people list. I find it hilarious that people are that shallow.

Thats very big of you. I tend to get a good laugh out of the fact that I made the top 5 most ignored people list. I find it hilarious that people are that shallow.

Nothing "big" about it. It's just how I roll. (been waiting to use that one all day)

Cincinnati fan. Research the people you try to insult.

you act as if this is something to be proud of

Ok, I know you're really not this stupid. SO honestly, you protracting out this argument just to be a fuckwit is rather silly.

No shit it is also a city, however, we're in a thread about the NFL, we're talking about two teams playing on opening night, one of which is the Stealers.

Now in all seriousness, if you can't figure out I'm talking about the team and not the city then you're about as bright as a dead light bulb buried in that landfill the stealers call home ;)

There are two options here A) muns knew exactly what he was doing and is simply an asshole looking to rile me up, or B) he honestly thought I meant the city and in such a case needs to learn to comprehend what he reads.

Either way I'm not the dipstick in the situation and I corrected the initial error by said poster.

Stop causing problems =)

So I'm the moron because someone tried to insult where I live when the topic of cities wasn't even brought up?...k, thanks for helping me understand that you can't read for comprehension any better than he can ;)

If the best he can do is insult the city I live in maybe he needs to do what I said before, learn about who you're insulting so you don't make a fracking ass of yourself. ;)

Ok.. I have really been trying to ignore the vitriol you spew, but, really? After the thread where you went heywire about quarterbacks in the first round because of YOUR lack of reading comprehension (making up that it was only about first round picks, not quarterbacks in the draft in general), you're going to pull this bullshit? When you say "fuck shittsbugh" it is completely logical for someone to take that as an attack on the whole city, not just the football team and it's fans... even in a football thread. This happens all the time in sports discussions and you need to settle the fuck down and grow some skin.

you act as if this is something to be proud of


You want a piece of me? You callin me out, did you rub my lamp???

Ok.. I have really been trying to ignore the vitriol you spew, but, really? After the thread where you went heywire about quarterbacks in the first round because of YOUR lack of reading comprehension (making up that it was only about first round picks, not quarterbacks in the draft in general), you're going to pull this bullshit? When you say "fuck shittsbugh" it is completely logical for someone to take that as an attack on the whole city, not just the football team and it's fans... even in a football thread. This happens all the time in sports discussions and you need to settle the fuck down and grow some skin.


Pull that stick out of your ass. Seriously.
Oh and try harder. You're effort is sadly lacking.

Oh and the bolded part just cracked me the fuck up coming from YOU. Puh-fucking-lease.

Not your issue, not your beef, try harder next time.

Oh boy I see subby in thread, here it comes ;)

Ok.. I have really been trying to ignore the vitriol you spew, but, really? After the thread where you went heywire about quarterbacks in the first round because of YOUR lack of reading comprehension (making up that it was only about first round picks, not quarterbacks in the draft in general), you're going to pull this bullshit? When you say "fuck shittsbugh" it is completely logical for someone to take that as an attack on the whole city, not just the football team and it's fans... even in a football thread. This happens all the time in sports discussions and you need to settle the fuck down and grow some skin.


And just to be perfectly honest about something, I did make a mistake in that thread you mention. I also apologized profusely to Tasan for my mis-reaction to it. If yer gonna spew lies and bullshit about someone (the making shit up comment) then perhaps you should at least recognize the ENTIRE story.

but then you've never been about the real story, just your personal view of it. Carry on.

QUINTUPLE DOLA!!!!!!!!

This thread has taken a turn for another galaxy.

Here's a novel concept...how about we all agree to talk about football?!?!

I, for one, am looking forward to a number of matchups this weekend (Chicago vs. Green Bay in particular), but I am completely uninterested in the MNF double-header. Seriously, the best we can do is Patriots vs. Bills (blowout) and Chargers vs. Raiders (another blowout)? What genius in the scheduling department thought these would be remotely competitive, even way back early in the year when the schedule was determined?

This thread has taken a turn for another galaxy.

If feel partially responsibly for this and, for that, I apologize.

I feel shame.

Uh. Go Hawks?

Found this interesting. Does this speak more to the teams that were playing last night, or to what else is on television?

Pittsburgh Steelers, Tennessee Titans draw biggest audience for NFL season opener in seven years - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4465349)

Here's a novel concept...how about we all agree to talk about football?!?!

I, for one, am looking forward to a number of matchups this weekend (Chicago vs. Green Bay in particular), but I am completely uninterested in the MNF double-header. Seriously, the best we can do is Patriots vs. Bills (blowout) and Chargers vs. Raiders (another blowout)? What genius in the scheduling department thought these would be remotely competitive, even way back early in the year when the schedule was determined?

For some reason the NFL seems to love to screw ESPN's MNF. They always seem to get crap games. Sometimes they luck out because what looks like will be a bad game, turns out to be decent later on.

Sunday Night Football is now the marquee match-up of the week. Green Bay/Chicago should be fun.

I would say that I am looking forward to the Saints/Lions game, but that would be a lie. I am actually afraid of that game. I'm afraid the Lions will get completely blown out (42-10 or such) and, thus, another season will be over before it even begins.

I'm not looking for the Lions to win this week, I'd just like to see them be competitive. I am sick of games where the Lions look like some very bad Division I-AA playing against Florida or USC.

I would say that I am looking forward to the Saints/Lions game, but that would be a lie. I am actually afraid of that game. I'm afraid the Lions will get completely blown out (42-10 or such) and, thus, another season will be over before it even begins.

I'm not looking for the Lions to win this week, I'd just like to see them be competitive. I am sick of games where the Lions look like some very bad Division I-AA playing against Florida or USC.

I feel your pain. I am lucky in that I haven't been able to watch a lot of Lions games the past few years (notwithstanding the debacles that inevitably occur on Thanksgiving).

Look for these things to happen in the Lions game:

- Stafford will get hurt
- At least one linebacker and offensive lineman will get hurt
- Lions defense will look like month-old swiss cheese
- Lions will lose 52-13

I'm not looking for the Lions to win this week, I'd just like to see them be competitive. I am sick of games where the Lions look like some very bad Division I-AA playing against Florida or USC.

I still have a soft spot for the Lions (having been born in Michigan), so last season was difficult to stomach, even for me. But the unfortunate truth is that Millen and Co. did so much damage to that franchise, it's going to take time before the Lions resemble an NFL team again. Even in the rags-to-riches NFL I just don't see it happening this year. Will they go winless again? No. Will they be in the running for another #1 overall pick? Probably.

Pull that stick out of your ass. Seriously.
Oh and try harder. You're effort is sadly lacking.

Oh and the bolded part just cracked me the fuck up coming from YOU. Puh-fucking-lease.

Not your issue, not your beef, try harder next time.

And just to be perfectly honest about something, I did make a mistake in that thread you mention. I also apologized profusely to Tasan for my mis-reaction to it. If yer gonna spew lies and bullshit about someone (the making shit up comment) then perhaps you should at least recognize the ENTIRE story.

but then you've never been about the real story, just your personal view of it. Carry on.

Am I known for overreacting, having a stick up my ass, or distorting stories? This is news to me if so. Someone else is welcome to let me know if I am, I would like to know if it's the case so I can do my best to not come off that way.

As for getting the facts straight, I'm sorry, let me spell them out.

1) you overreacted and took things the wrong way with vitriol and obscenities
2) you apologized
3) you backed off of your apology by letter defending your earlier overreaction after the apology. I can find the quotes if you would like.

Here's a novel concept...how about we all agree to talk about football?!?!

I, for one, am looking forward to a number of matchups this weekend (Chicago vs. Green Bay in particular), but I am completely uninterested in the MNF double-header. Seriously, the best we can do is Patriots vs. Bills (blowout) and Chargers vs. Raiders (another blowout)? What genius in the scheduling department thought these would be remotely competitive, even way back early in the year when the schedule was determined?

For Patriots / Bills, I can see them thinking "We've got the Patriots who are a big draw, plus Tom Brady's first game back from injury, and with the Bills we've got TO who is a lightning rod that will attract people (those who like and those who hate)". Obviously now they probably wish they could change it, but when they scheduled it they didn't know the OC was going to be fired prior to game 1 or that they'd cut their starting LT before Week 1 (this feels like a Major League plot, like Ralph Wilson wants to move the team to Toronto).

I can't fathom Chargers / Raiders other than, "We need two West Coast teams". I think last year was Arizona / someone West Coastish that didn't look like an appealing game either, so this seems to be tradition. I guess they're figuring a large part of the country will have already gone to sleep by the time the game starts.

For Patriots / Bills, I can see them thinking "We've got the Patriots who are a big draw, plus Tom Brady's first game back from injury, and with the Bills we've got TO who is a lightning rod that will attract people (those who like and those who hate)". Obviously now they probably wish they could change it, but when they scheduled it they didn't know the OC was going to be fired prior to game 1 or that they'd cut their starting LT before Week 1 (this feels like a Major League plot, like Ralph Wilson wants to move the team to Toronto).

I guess I can see the "Tom Brady's Grand Return" angle. Not sure about T.O. though...wasn't the schedule determined/published before Free Agency opened? Not sure...either way it could have worked out better...and Sunday Night does certainly seem to get the better matchups week-in and week-out. Add in the Flex games later in the year and it's easy to see which one is the NFL's red-headed step-child.

I think the schedules came out April 14.

For some reason the NFL seems to love to screw ESPN's MNF. They always seem to get crap games. Sometimes they luck out because what looks like will be a bad game, turns out to be decent later on.

Sunday Night Football is now the marquee match-up of the week. Green Bay/Chicago should be fun.

Does NBC now pay more for the rights than ABC?

I think the schedules came out April 14.

OK the Pats/Bills matchup makes more sense now. Owens signed with the Bills on March 8th.

Does NBC now pay more for the rights than ABC?

I'm pretty sure they do.

Actually ESPN pays $1.1 billion per year for MNF while NBC pays $600 million for SNF. The MNF football game is seen as a more valuable property but network politics play into as well.

ABC lost a bundle on MNF. The ratings a broadcast network can get with MNF aren't high enough to justify the cost whereas MNF brings in enormous cable ratings. Once NBC bought SNF, it was pretty much just the cable networks bidding for MNF and ESPN was willing to overpay to keep it out of the hands of anybody else.

People like to think that the best games are on MNF and SNF but in reality it's usually the third best if that. CBS and Fox get to protect games each week and team's can't play more than X number of games in primetime.

The flex scheduling for SNF is pretty cool but I understand why they don't want to do it for MNF. Moving games from 1 to 7 pm on Sunday isn't nearly as complicated as moving the day.

Am I known for overreacting, having a stick up my ass, or distorting stories? This is news to me if so. Someone else is welcome to let me know if I am, I would like to know if it's the case so I can do my best to not come off that way.

As for getting the facts straight, I'm sorry, let me spell them out.

1) you overreacted and took things the wrong way with vitriol and obscenities
2) you apologized
3) you backed off of your apology by letter defending your earlier overreaction after the apology. I can find the quotes if you would like.


Sigh, you know. Someday I hope you get a life. Your own, so you're not trying to re-create everyone else's reality.

I actually apologized for something in the other thread, I never backed off that apology in any way. The apology was to Tasan, not you, so your opinion of it isn't relevant anyway, no matter how often you think your opinion on other peoples interactions is required.

I defended my POSITION on the topic because my position was just fine. My overreaction was related to something OTHER than the actual topic of teh discussion and that was what was apologized for.

You're known for being an asshat and a troublemaker when someone disagrees with you. You're known for badgering people with incomplete and misrepresented statements (see everything you just posted). You basically called me a liar and accused me of making up content of a thread when in fact that was not the case.

Frankly you came into this discussion because you seem to have some chip on your shoulder about my posts for whatever reason. I believe you're a real prick, but thats just my personal opinion. I think you're laughable based on passed conversations and that you look for places to try and make yourself feel superior to people you dislike.

I find you a sad individual and I hope you have teh common decency to either take this to PM's for the sake of teh thread or just shut the fuck up about it. Nothing you've dredged up here actually relates to you at all and it sure as hell doesn't related to the NFL week 1 or otherwise. SO do everyone ELSE a favor and get off this in this thread.

Stop being a fuckwit. You want to badger me, start your own thread or go to PMs.

My apologies to everyone else for all the derailing commentary in here. My own and certain "others" as well.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled NFL commentary!


LETS GO BENGALS!

31-17 Bengals over Denver.

HA?

Who was I goading into anything? You're saying I was intentionally trying to inflame EVERY SINGLE shitzburgh fan? Ok maybe, but still ;) I stand by the fact that I was insulting the team, which is not a direct attack on anyone. I called out Muns for a direct personal attack at me. Since he doesn't know me (not having sen him post much at all) I assume he simply had nothing better than a personal attack to use and I pointed out his error. I'm really not seeing what the issue is here other than some folks thinking I'm just being too mean to people. They can get over it.

I am not an unhappy person at all, I am very secure in who I am and what I love and believe in. I'm also, as someone else pointed out in another thread, very abrasive. You either accept me as I am or you put me on ingore and we never have to have such a discussion ever again ;)

I'm good either way!

You know I'm glad that I didn't check this thread out earlier, but I do feel the need to respond.

I have no idea what the hell your talking about. You do realize about 3 posts down I did say "its all in good fun right"????? I assumed you were making a joke about "shitzburgh" and I tried to have some light fun back. I even put a smiley winky face on the end.

I said nothing about "fucking anyone in the ass" with HA's dick or whatever, but yet you get fired up and say I directly attacked you because I implied that buffalo was a shitty town??? What do you think Shitzburg means?

Anyways this is what FOFC is more and more these days I guess, but it would be nice instead of just flaming someone and telling them to do some "research" that you check your own sarcasm or joke meter first because you clearly missed this one.

Found this interesting. Does this speak more to the teams that were playing last night, or to what else is on television?

Pittsburgh Steelers, Tennessee Titans draw biggest audience for NFL season opener in seven years - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4465349)

im gonna guess that it was just what was on tv. It was still a crappy game IMO

This thread is a clusterfuck

The thread will get better around 1pm on Sunday.

This thread is a clusterfuck

seriously.

Can we delete it and start over. I don't care if I lose posts.

Can we save the pissing matches for the evil abusive cop threads?

You know I'm glad that I didn't check this thread out earlier, but I do feel the need to respond.

I have no idea what the hell your talking about. You do realize about 3 posts down I did say "its all in good fun right"????? I assumed you were making a joke about "shitzburgh" and I tried to have some light fun back. I even put a smiley winky face on the end.

I said nothing about "fucking anyone in the ass" with HA's dick or whatever, but yet you get fired up and say I directly attacked you because I implied that buffalo was a shitty town??? What do you think Shitzburg means?

Anyways this is what FOFC is more and more these days I guess, but it would be nice instead of just flaming someone and telling them to do some "research" that you check your own sarcasm or joke meter first because you clearly missed this one.

Simplest thing: I insulted the Stealers, nothing more. You insulted my home. Beyond that I could give a rats ass. Yes I react more harshly than most. Always have, always will. Part of the "research" comment I made. Knowing who you're dealing with comes with the territory.

I'm done with all that now. Sorry again to everyone else for side commentary. Lets talk football!

Can we save the pissing matches for the evil abusive cop threads?


Yes we can, I've already asked in thread for this to be taken to PM's or dropped altogether.

Heh.. Kinda like.. Do you wanna take this INside?

Hey guys,
Been busy, and recovering from the loss... :(

Regardless, Pittsburgh... I think we've just witnessed the beginning of a rivalry... Over last year and into this year... Yeah.

Great game nonetheless... I'm a lil mad a Bironas, but hey.
I look forward to seeing ya'll again in the playoffs. Ya'll will be in Nashville next time, though... lol

This is why I am pissed I no longer have access at work.

FOFC's version of beer muscle.

This is why I am pissed I no longer have access at work.

FOFC's version of beer muscle.

Tyrone Carter looking good in regular season.

Tyrone Carter looking good in regular season.

Mere coincidence that Tenneessee completed 3 passes for 77 yards in about 40 seconds as soon as Lord Ty replace Troy.

Just wait a few weeks you won't notice a difference, other than Ty's hair is better.

Heading out to the Georgia Dome to see the Dolphins live for the first time in 15 years. Hope it's a good one!

Stacy Dales lookin' good on NFL network....

Jones Drew is going to have a good day. Colts still win though.

Redskins stun the Giants. Woot!

Here is a radio link to the Falcons game today for any Falcons fans that can't get the game on TV.

www.star1400.com (http://www.star1400.com/)

Cleveland Browns - Minnesota Vikings
Arizona Cardinals - San Francisco 49'ers
New York Giants - Washington Redskins
Green Bay Packers - Chicago Bear

Not a bad selections of game we got to start the season in Scandinavia. Also looking forward to following the action on Twitter this season.

And Chilly starts the season off with a failed onside kick. This game should be pretty entertaining.

Cleveland Browns - Minnesota Vikings
Arizona Cardinals - San Francisco 49'ers
New York Giants - Washington Redskins
Green Bay Packers - Chicago Bear

Not a bad selections of game we got to start the season in Scandinavia. Also looking forward to following the action on Twitter this season.

So I gotta know...do you get all the Vikings games?

And Chilly starts the season off with a failed onside kick. This game should be pretty entertaining.

what a bonehead play

Saints score already.

Welcome to 2009 Lions fans

And the first points of the first full Sunday of play are scored against ... yep, the Detroit Lions.

7-0 Saints. Brees to Colston. Christ the Lions D is bad .. and yet it is light years better then last year.

Wade will be happy. Derek Cox, of W&M fame, picks off Peyton Manning in the endzone on a helluva play.

WHOA!!!!!1

I heart Cox

Don't say that outloud

3 and out for the Lions then a 28 yard punt.

14-0 Saints. Thankfully last year truly made immune.

Saints get the second TD of the day as well

Detroit is not good

Stupid commentator says "David Garrard threw it short because if he went long, he might throw a turnover or an interception." What kind of turnover would you "throw" that is not in interception? Idiot.

Some day, Derek Cox is going to say that in his first game, on his first drive on defense, against a hall of fame QB in their stadium, he got a pick when Manning went for a TD.

At what point does the league have to maybe consider taking control of the Lions for failure to field a competitive entry in the league?

Thankfully for the Lions, we have Calvin Johnson. As long as we have sucked we have had an amazing player to distract us from total ineptitude. First Barry, and now the Megatron. We'll be fine eventually but there is no talent on this defense at all.

At his current pace, Brees will throw for 1200 yds & 24 TD's ... today.

At what point does the league have to maybe consider taking control of the Lions for failure to field a competitive entry in the league?

Next season once we draft Suh from Nebraska and another DL in the 2nd round we'll have an adequate D.

And nice pass from Stafford to Megatron.

Panthers with a 8 minute drive to start the game that ends with a nice cutback TD run by DeAngelo Williams.

At his current pace, Brees will throw for 1200 yds & 24 TD's ... today.

Hope so. He's on the fantasy squad. If we're gonna lose it may as well be big.

Next season once we draft Suh from Nebraska and another DL in the 2nd round we'll have an adequate D.

Or another rookie QB and a WR bust :D

Or another rookie QB and a WR bust :D

Hey now. I think Stafford will be very good, and Calvin can do no wrong as you know. I still cannot fathom how good he was with Reggie Ball as his QB at GT. Unreal. How did GT even get him and not UGA?

Panthers with a 8 minute drive to start the game that ends with a nice cutback TD run by DeAngelo Williams.

Woot. Fantasy points:D

Don't like the toss play on 3rd and 1. Smith is going to be a very good RB but his speed to the outside is not his game. Still, a good drive. Stafford looked very good.

Don't like the toss play on 3rd and 1. Smith is going to be a very good RB but his speed to the outside is not his game. Still, a good drive. Stafford looked very good.

I always hate that play on 3rd and short. Why throw the ball 2 yards back and make it a 3rd and 3?

Jeez, what a comedy of errors by the Bengals.

Hey now. I think Stafford will be very good, and Calvin can do no wrong as you know. I still cannot fathom how good he was with Reggie Ball as his QB at GT. Unreal. How did GT even get him and not UGA?

CJ is a fairly classy & intelligent guy, his college choice was pretty obvious.

And Stafford can't lead starving dogs to fresh meat (no pun intended), he's ultimately a bust looking for a place to happen. He'll put up some numbers on raw ability but he'll never lead a team to a winning record in the NFL even after he leaves the Lions.

I always hate that play on 3rd and short. Why throw the ball 2 yards back and make it a 3rd and 3?

Exactly. Maybe if you have a guy who is a pure speed back like Reggie Bush, it makes sense, but not with a between the tackle runner. It hurt them because if he just gets stuffed up the middle I think the Lions end up going for it, but that became 4th and a long 3 instead.

Okay, seriously, now I really like Cox.

Eagles get hit with a BS interference with the fair catch call. Demps was pushed into the punt returner.

Thanks Devrey Henderson for the 3 and out!

Yay Maurice Jones-Drew!

Sheldon Brown with a pick after the ball was thrown behind Steve Smith and bounced off his hands.

Delhomme, under no pressure at all, throws a terrible pass behind steve smith, interception eagles. F'ing Delhomme.

Detroit forces another 3 and out. Better go wait in line for my playoff tickets now before the rush.

And a HUGE return by Dennis Northcutt to the Saints 15 or so. Very nice play.

Jets up 3-0 over the Texans

Delhomme with a fumble on a sack, the Eagles recover it and run it in for the defensive TD. 10-7 Eagles lead.

That why you go to training camp Marshall

Helluva catch by Reggie Wayne on 3rd and 13. Nothing Cox could do there.

As much as I hate Delhomme I do have to thank him for the 10 points he has given the Eagles so far.

Delhomme with a fumble on a sack, the Eagles recover it and run it in for the defensive TD. 10-7 Eagles lead.

People say there is a problem with rookies getting so much money ... I have a problem with Jake Delhomme getting as much money as he just did this offseason. He is so bad.

TD Kevin Smith! Helluva play call there. On 4th and 1, they fake the FB and call the toss. That makes a little more sense.

I have no freaking idea why delhomme didn't just cover the ball and fall down there. What the hell was he trying to do? *sigh*

DeSean Jackson with a 85 yard punt return for a TD!!

Awesome return by Jackson there. 17-7

That Slaton fumble was epic. Put your head on the ball!

Anthony Henry picks off Drew Brees on a flea flicker. A play that no one bit on at all.