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DeToxRox
10-29-2008, 05:58 PM
Simple. Make this your one stop shop for all the bands you hate.

I'll start -- Avenged Sevenfold.

Fuck them continually being on EA's NHL soundtracks. ENOUGH!

JonInMiddleGA
10-29-2008, 05:59 PM
The Beatles.

Groundhog
10-29-2008, 06:01 PM
The Rolling Stones.

Dr. Sak
10-29-2008, 06:02 PM
U2

Router Help
10-29-2008, 06:03 PM
U2

Passacaglia
10-29-2008, 06:04 PM
The Eagles

DeToxRox
10-29-2008, 06:04 PM
Add me in for U2.

Fuck Bono. I bet he burns his leaves.

samifan24
10-29-2008, 06:06 PM
Nickelback
Buckcherry

Schmidty
10-29-2008, 06:08 PM
Smashing Pumpkins (obligatory as a Pavement fan)

95% of rappers and hip hop artists since 1993

The Rolling Stones (every song sounds the same)

Modest Mouse

Most of the mid-late 90's bands my wife likes

Dave fucking Matthews (yodeling bitch)

Most punk bands formed after the mid-80s (especially the overrated abortion that is the Misfits)


Damn. I could go on and on. Maybe I will when I'm bored at work.

Nice Guy Eddie
10-29-2008, 06:09 PM
Steve Miller Band

Boston

Goo Goo Dolls

Kansas

Nickelback

Beatles

Rolling Stones

Lathum
10-29-2008, 06:10 PM
The Beatles.

:+1:

terpkristin
10-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Maroon 5.

/tk

DeToxRox
10-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Jonas Brothers can retire. Please.

PackerFanatic
10-29-2008, 06:16 PM
U2, bar none.

Bono can die.

sabotai
10-29-2008, 06:19 PM
U2

All of those "latin invasion" singers. Marc Anthony, Ricky Martin....why the fuck do they only have first names!?

Nickelback

Creed

EagleFan
10-29-2008, 06:20 PM
Beatles

Rolling Stones

U2 to an extent (once Bono decides it's time to preach to everyone)

New additions thanks to having Disney aged daughters:
Jonas Brothers
Hannah Montana
Cheetah Girls

Dr. Sak
10-29-2008, 06:21 PM
Add Dave Matthews to my list

Schmidty
10-29-2008, 06:22 PM
Add Dave Matthews to my list

BON JOVI!!!!!!!

JediKooter
10-29-2008, 06:26 PM
Menudo

Dr. Sak
10-29-2008, 06:27 PM
BON JOVI!!!!!!!

Neuq will be here shortly to kill you.

Groundhog
10-29-2008, 06:28 PM
Thanks to others in this thread I also add:

U2
Bon Jovi

Buccaneer
10-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Rolling Stones.

Everyone that I would dislike would be a distant 2nd.

Schmidty
10-29-2008, 06:51 PM
Rolling Stones.

Everyone that I would dislike would be a distant 2nd.

Holy crap!!! We actually agree!!!!

Big Fo
10-29-2008, 07:03 PM
Aerosmith

thesloppy
10-29-2008, 07:12 PM
Steve Miller
Dave Matthews
Sublime
Flogging Molly
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Social Distortion
They Might Be Giants
The Osmonds
Tony Orlando (and Dawn)
Sam Cooke
Jamiroquai
Blind Melon
Phish
Joan Baez
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Fergie

That's my 'homicidal rage' list...the list of 'bands I moderately dislike' is nearly endless. I only listen to Donna Summer, Jandek, and k-tel samplers of '80s television theme songs.

Buccaneer
10-29-2008, 07:19 PM
Since we're listing, here are the Distant 2nd bands:

Nirvana
A-ha
Spandau Ballet

shit, I'm too tired to think of more...

Sun Tzu
10-29-2008, 07:22 PM
Anything emo.

ugh

Schmidty
10-29-2008, 07:25 PM
Anything emo.

ugh

I just want to know what emo is. I'm 33 and out of "the scene", so I'm always wondering if the groups I like are "emo". What makes something a part of that genre?

Big Fo
10-29-2008, 07:27 PM
I just want to know what emo is. I'm 33 and out of "the scene", so I'm always wondering if the groups I like are "emo". What makes something a part of that genre?

Guitars and crying.

Schmidty
10-29-2008, 07:42 PM
Guitars and crying.

George Harrison?

Izulde
10-29-2008, 07:44 PM
Nirvana is the one band that sends me into homocidal rages. Overrated, way overrated and the Cobain cultism was obnoxious.

In fact, if Kurt Cobain and Emily Dickinson weren't already dead and they were both in front of me and I could choose one to kill, I'd have a hard time deciding. I mean, I hate Anne Rice with the same passion, but at least she wrote one novel I actually enjoyed.

DeToxRox
10-29-2008, 07:45 PM
Nirvana is the one band that sends me into homocidal rages. Overrated, way overrated and the Cobain cultism was obnoxious.

In fact, if Kurt Cobain and Emily Dickinson weren't already dead and they were both in front of me and I could choose one to kill, I'd have a hard time deciding. I mean, I hate Anne Rice with the same passion, but at least she wrote one novel I actually enjoyed.

But you couldn't kill a spider?

Buccaneer
10-29-2008, 07:46 PM
Wow, I actually agree with Izulde on something (except for the Emily Dickinson part, that was way too dorky).

st.cronin
10-29-2008, 07:46 PM
Pavement

Dave Matthews

The Sex Pistols

st.cronin
10-29-2008, 07:49 PM
Also:

Def Leppard
Depeche comMode
Aerosmith
The Doors

MJ4H
10-29-2008, 07:49 PM
Stanford's band.

edit: and U2 and Nickelback. God.

Mustang
10-29-2008, 07:53 PM
They aren't bands, but.. Bruce Springsteen and Bob Seger. I would imagine that the elevator in hell would play Muzak of both of them. Fuckers.

JediKooter
10-29-2008, 08:01 PM
Sucks:

Hanson
NKOTB
Melisa Ethridge
Bonnie Rait
Any American Idol
Celene Dion
Maddona

There's more, just can't think of them at the moment...

P.S. I'm not concerned about the spelling of their names, because I think they suck.

st.cronin
10-29-2008, 08:04 PM
Bob Seger, good call.

more:

Erasure
Nine Inch Nails
Jane's Addiction

Kodos
10-29-2008, 08:05 PM
Nirvana.

Fidatelo
10-29-2008, 08:50 PM
Dave Matthews by a mile.

Swaggs
10-29-2008, 08:52 PM
Dave Matthews

Suburban Rhythm
10-29-2008, 09:00 PM
Rolling Stones, as correctly mentioned multiple times already.

U2, as correctly mentioned multiple times already.

And really anything new in about the last 5 years that was described as "you must listen to this!!!!11!!1111!!" that was pretty shitty- Modest Mouse, Arcade Fire, and a bunch of other shit I can't think of now. Generally, the stuff that, somehow, a handful of people thought was cool, and then everyone became afraid to admit it was crap.

hawk4669
10-29-2008, 09:07 PM
The Beatles and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Let me clarify a bit: I recognize both bands (albeit in very different ways and time periods) were/are influential and have leigons of rabid fans who'd kill for them....but both I just cringe when I hear their music. Just isn't for me.

You like what you like. Period. Just keep listening to what you like and don't try to impress it on others. If people are going to like a band that you like, your incessant hyping of them won't help much usually.

Just my two cents.

Cheers!

Scarecrow
10-29-2008, 09:09 PM
OUTKAST!!!

Tigercat
10-29-2008, 09:10 PM
Abba (Fernando especially)
Yardbirds
Destiny's Child

When vocal harmonies go bad.

JetsIn06
10-29-2008, 09:17 PM
Nirvana
Panic at the Disco
Emo

Bad-example
10-29-2008, 09:23 PM
Rubber and head. Can't stand either.

Sublime 2
10-29-2008, 09:23 PM
Steve Miller
Dave Matthews
Sublime
Flogging Molly
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Social Distortion
They Might Be Giants
The Osmonds
Tony Orlando (and Dawn)
Sam Cooke
Jamiroquai
Blind Melon
Phish
Joan Baez
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Fergie

That's my 'homicidal rage' list...the list of 'bands I moderately dislike' is nearly endless. I only listen to Donna Summer, Jandek, and k-tel samplers of '80s television theme songs.

Phew...that was close!

Sublime 2
10-29-2008, 09:26 PM
dola

U2
Dave Matthews

stevew
10-29-2008, 09:31 PM
Fuck edie brickell


Also Nickelback, Matchbox 20(did everyone else forget how bad these guys fuckin suck?), Rhianna(solo artist but I hate her), Billy Joel.

stevew
10-29-2008, 09:38 PM
Beyonce too.

Karlifornia
10-29-2008, 09:44 PM
Haha I love the U2 hate in this thread.

Not so much the Nirvana hate :(

Off the top of my head, I'll go:

Jay-Z
Linkin Park
The Decemberists
The Offspring

samifan24
10-29-2008, 09:50 PM
It seems like we could make a group list. It's interesting that even in this small group of people, the same bands would come up again and again.

U2
Dave Matthews
Nickelback

stevew
10-29-2008, 09:55 PM
The Kidz Bop Kidz.

MrBug708
10-29-2008, 10:29 PM
U2

All of those "latin invasion" singers. Marc Anthony, Ricky Martin....why the fuck do they only have first names!?


You could have had the decency to actuall yput a singer with just a first name :)


Beastie Boys
Rage Against the Machine

sabotai
10-29-2008, 10:39 PM
You could have had the decency to actuall yput a singer with just a first name :)

They both have 2 first names!!!

Lathum
10-29-2008, 10:43 PM
Nirvana
Pearl Jam

Lathum
10-29-2008, 10:44 PM
The Offspring

I'm surprised you dont like The Offspring, they seem to be right up your alley

Oilers9911
10-29-2008, 10:46 PM
Bon Jovi - top of the garbage pile.
U2
Nickelback
Matchbox 20
Def Leppard
Eagles - especially that pompous prick Don Henley.

DeToxRox
10-29-2008, 11:37 PM
I'm surprised you dont like The Offspring, they seem to be right up your alley

Agreed. Shitty music is up Karl's alley. Kurt Cobain was a god damned hack.

MUDHONEY FTW

Kodos
10-29-2008, 11:40 PM
It's amazing how much better the Foo Fighters are than Nirvana.

DeToxRox
10-29-2008, 11:43 PM
It's amazing how much better the Foo Fighters are than Nirvana.

Ack. I agree with you on something.

stevew
10-29-2008, 11:46 PM
I can only assume that you guys all like Matchbox 20 since nobody else has mentioned them.

Anyways, does anyone else use bands in some slight way as a litmus test when you're meeting new people? Like for instance, if you catch a ride with someone and they have Nickleback playing in their CD player or iPod they better be really cool other than that. I mean, that's hella strike one there.

Groundhog
10-29-2008, 11:55 PM
Anyways, does anyone else use bands in some slight way as a litmus test when you're meeting new people? Like for instance, if you catch a ride with someone and they have Nickleback playing in their CD player or iPod they better be really cool other than that. I mean, that's hella strike one there.

Yeah fo' sho'.

Galaxy
10-30-2008, 12:19 AM
Billy Joel. :D

DanGarion
10-30-2008, 01:01 AM
Rush and Nirvana.

You people that say Beatles and Rolling Stones are on crack.


-edit - Dave Matthews Band, Sublime, any current pop/dance female singer (especially the currently hot Duffy, I mean come on what the fuck????)

BYU 14
10-30-2008, 01:09 AM
Hanson (They played Ummm Bop at halftime of our game tonight, WTF?)

stevew
10-30-2008, 01:14 AM
That Pink chick is pretty damned annoying too.

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 01:55 AM
Pavement


You are dead to me.

Seriously.

B & B
10-30-2008, 03:54 AM
Soul Asylum

System of a Down

B-52s

:banghead:

stevew
10-30-2008, 07:23 AM
You are dead to me.

Seriously.

co-signed

Cork
10-30-2008, 07:50 AM
Bob Dylan tops my list as well as the Grateful Dead and Phish.

-Cork

Kodos
10-30-2008, 08:25 AM
Whoever said the Red Hot Chili Peppers was right on. I have a theory, that no matter how bad a group might be, anyone can come up with one good song. Hell, even Nirvana did (All Apologies). The Chili Peppers are one of the bands that has never managed one good song so far. Utterly hate everything I've ever heard of theirs. The Doors would be another group in that category. So I guess my theory is ruined right there...

Julio Riddols
10-30-2008, 08:31 AM
Linkin Park, Nickelback, Puddle Of Mudd, Saliva, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, basically anyone who fits the redneck/white trash/suburban teenage angst playlist.

I don't think I am the only one that notices the correlation between this music and douchebags.

Kodos
10-30-2008, 08:33 AM
Luckily, I don't listen to the radio very much, so I have only a very passing acquaintance with Nickelback. But for what little I know, they do suck.


Has someone mentioned Creed? They are horrible.

Julio Riddols
10-30-2008, 08:37 AM
I can only assume that you guys all like Matchbox 20 since nobody else has mentioned them.

Anyways, does anyone else use bands in some slight way as a litmus test when you're meeting new people? Like for instance, if you catch a ride with someone and they have Nickleback playing in their CD player or iPod they better be really cool other than that. I mean, that's hella strike one there.

Music and movies are two major identifiers of a persons personality for me. It reveals a ton about someones thought process i think.

Honolulu_Blue
10-30-2008, 09:17 AM
Music and movies are two major identifiers of a persons personality for me. It reveals a ton about someones thought process i think.

While that can be true for some people, it's not so far others. I know a lot of people, some of my friends for example, whose identity is very much tied up in the music they love. They are really into music, get into bands, all that stuff.

For me personally, I'm not really a music guy. It doesn't really define me in anyway. My likes and dislikes are all over the map. I'd be the first to admit that my musical tastes are very suspect. I like what I like at that's about it. I went to multiple Lilith Fairs back in the day, I've seen Sarah Mclachlan several times, Toris Amos a few times, Sinead O'Connor, but I've also seen Judas Priest, Queensryche, Ozzy Osbourne, Rage Against The Machine, etc. live. I've bought/downloaded all of 2-3 albums over the last 6 or 7 years. Most of the music I buy/download is music I hear in commercials or happen to catch on the radio the few minutes a month that I listen to something other than talk radio.

That said, I do take my movies quite seriously.

Fidatelo
10-30-2008, 09:27 AM
Music and movies are two major identifiers of a persons personality for me. It reveals a ton about someones thought process i think.

It does? That seems like an odd link; taste in arts tied to thought process? "You like Nickelback? Really? Have you thought that one through? Weighed the pros and cons? I don't think you have!"

Lathum
10-30-2008, 09:43 AM
Music and movies are two major identifiers of a persons personality for me. It reveals a ton about someones thought process i think.

I totaly disagree with this.

I think some people allow their lives to revolve around the music they listen to and they allow it to define them, but I don't think it always does.

Me and Saldana have VERY different musical tastes but still are best friends.

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 10:05 AM
I totaly disagree with this.

I think some people allow their lives to revolve around the music they listen to and they allow it to define them, but I don't think it always does.

Me and Saldana have VERY different musical tastes but still are best friends.

That's like my wife and I. She likes a lot of the stuff here that others hate (including me), such as Matchbox 20, Bare naked Ladies, Celine Dion (shudder), etc., but we get along famously. I don't think her personality reflects her taste in music.

I am getting through to her a bit though. She likes some of my stuff now, and I convinced her that Nickleback is probably the worst band of the past decade.

Mustang
10-30-2008, 10:23 AM
Have to add another one - Starship.

Ugh

Hurst2112
10-30-2008, 10:29 AM
I'll vote for The Flaming Lips

I'll throw in a U2 and Nirvana

Dylan
Toby Keith

Sun Tzu
10-30-2008, 10:31 AM
I'm going to have to join the "music and movies don't make you who you are" team. With my old lady and I, there are some bands that we both agree on, and just as many bands that we completely dissagree on. The same goes for movies. For example, if you lined up all 6 Star Wars movies, or all 6 Rocky movies, I'd be set for an entire day. Meanwhile, if you lined up "Joy Luck Club" along side "Beaches" and a few other god awful movies, then she'd grab a tissue box and be on the couch all day long. I think the important thing is that you both enjoy listening to music or watching movies just in general. Even if they aren't the same ones all the time.

Hurst2112
10-30-2008, 10:33 AM
It does? That seems like an odd link; taste in arts tied to thought process? "You like Nickelback? Really? Have you thought that one through? Weighed the pros and cons? I don't think you have!"

yeah there are some very specific variables that prove his theory wrong.

I'm not a Nickelback fanboy but working in the music field, I wish I could be part of the process of song creating as successful as what they do.

this was the whole Creed issue several years ago. I was one of the few that dug Creed for their songwriting and hooks. Most people, haters I should say, were too blind to see the talent or didn't care to learn about such talents (choosing to focus on Stapp's obvious issues with grandeur)

Sun Tzu
10-30-2008, 10:40 AM
I was one of the few that dug Creed for their songwriting and hooks. Most people, haters I should say, were too blind to see the talent or didn't care to learn about such talents (choosing to focus on Stapp's obvious issues with grandeur)

Yeah, I still have a good amount of Creed licks on my mp3 player. It's not bad music at all. Sure it's not super complicated music but christ, who cares?

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 10:40 AM
I'm not a Nickelback fanboy but working in the music field, I wish I could be part of the process of song creating as successful as what they do.

I can see that. Of course they probably have talent to get where they are, but when I listen them and their "hooks" all I hear is commercialism, not a love of music, or the courage to step outside of the box a bit.

Hurst2112
10-30-2008, 10:46 AM
I can see that. Of course they probably have talent to get where they are, but when I listen them and their "hooks" all I hear is commercialism, not a love of music, or the courage to step outside of the box a bit.

wait. are we talking about nirvana or nickelback? haha

sometimes commercialism isn't a bad thing. It's harder than it appears to write a successful song. If it wasn't, there would be a bigger selection of artists on the radio.

Nickelback stepped outside the box when they first came into the scene. They've found a formula that works. Same with Bon Jovi. I don't like listening to their new music but if I could make buttloads of money, creating music, I'd love it.

Senator
10-30-2008, 10:47 AM
Drop Dead Fred

jeheinz72
10-30-2008, 11:07 AM
I find that my top-shelf friends all share movie/TV/music taste with me. It's not a must, but for an inner-circle type of friend it is.

Which is kind of ironic really, considering I'm a huge Dave Matthews Band fan posting in this thread.

Qwikshot
10-30-2008, 11:07 AM
Okay, reading this list, I have to ask...

What is it that we hate about the bands we hate? I can understand that bands like Buckcherry, Jet, Nickelback, Matchbox 20, Dave Matthews, Creed and the like.

But the Beatles? the Rolling Stones (...every song sounds the same?..."? Bob Dylan?

So I guess, to ponder the question, do we hate these bands because of the style of music...I would assume guys like Dave Matthews and Bob Dylan are on this list because their voice can detract from the music (but comparing Dave to Bob is apples to oranges).

I can state that the pre Some Girls Rolling Stones are just awesome to hear, and there are several styles in there...the blues was always evident, but you can hear a bunch of other influences (including country).

The Beatles, man, they are ground zero. Sure you can dislike the 60's pop of it, or the acid influence, the guys didn't play a mean guitar, and were a bit, well, British, but they influenced a bunch of things.

Nirvana, okay, you may hate the voice, the pretentiousness of it all, the overhype, but Cobain was the guy who flicked the light switch off on the overblown hair band style rock (which may be why some of you hate Nirvana) but seriously, the idea of Warrant or Jackyl epitomizing rock and roll is shuddering. Nirvana were the colon cleanser for rock in the 90's (for better or worse).

I think though that the above bands did their things because of the fame, but also the music. I can't vouch that Nirvana is essential, but Dylan, the Stones and the Beatles are were a marked influence of everything that has been spit into the rock and roll world.

I find it more amazing you could hate the above three beause they have such a large volume of work that /something/ from it could be rendered listenable.

Now for the commercial bands of today, I agree, I cannot stand them, but I've listened to them. I can hate a band like Nickelback because it's bland, or Creed for the over the top seriousness. But bands like Nickelback and Creed will fade out, for those of you who hate Dylan, the Stones or Beatles, you have no such luck.

path12
10-30-2008, 11:09 AM
Nirvana
Pearl Jam

You're livin' in the wrong place, pal. :) I don't get the Nirvana hate in this thread at all, but like an old boss of mine used to say, that's why they've got different colored jellybeans in the jar.

My list I love to hate:

John Mellencamp
Sting (solo)
The Doors
Dave Matthews Band

jeheinz72
10-30-2008, 11:10 AM
I think Music just boils down to opinion and how you listen to music (the lyrics, the singers' voice, the drums, etc.)

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 11:16 AM
But bands like Nickelback and Creed will fade out, for those of you who hate Dylan, the Stones or Beatles, you have no such luck.

I have a feeling that, although talented (except for the Stones), bands/singers like that were only popular because of their times, and the lack of choices that we have nowadays. I have a feeling that if the internet existed (for everyone) even 20 years ago, a majority of the legends out there would be just run-of-the-mill. There are bands that would be legends regardless, because they were innovators or genre creators, but that would only be a handful.

Hurst2112
10-30-2008, 11:18 AM
The Beatles, man, they are ground zero. Sure you can dislike the 60's pop of it, or the acid influence, the guys didn't play a mean guitar, and were a bit, well, British, but they influenced a bunch of things.

I don't know how much you know about the musicianship of the guys but Harrison is considered one of the greatest guitar players to ever live. His influence runs rampant in today's mean guitar players.

Hurst2112
10-30-2008, 11:19 AM
I think Music just boils down to opinion and how you listen to music (the lyrics, the singers' voice, the drums, etc.)

great, short answer. spot on

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 11:23 AM
You're livin' in the wrong place, pal. :) I don't get the Nirvana hate in this thread at all, but like an old boss of mine used to say, that's why they've got different colored jellybeans in the jar.

Yeah, I haven't said it yet, but I still like Nirvana. Maybe it's because I was in high school at the height of their success, but I really "got" their music back then.

One thing that cracks me up though: When Pavement released "Crooked Rain Crooked Rain", they were counted on to be the next Nirvana. Nothing could be further than the truth. They weren't close in style as far as tone, lyrics, etc. I have no idea what the music critics and insiders were listening to back then. Hell, I don't know what they're listening to now.

(Sorry for another Pavement reference. I've been obsessed since 1992)

Qwikshot
10-30-2008, 11:27 AM
I don't know how much you know about the musicianship of the guys but Harrison is considered one of the greatest guitar players to ever live. His influence runs rampant in today's mean guitar players.

I didn't say he was horrid, but there are a bunch ahead of George (I was always partial to the riff from "Something"). But that was kind of my point though, the Beatles are hard to hate because they did influence so many bands, some too much (see anthing by Oasis after "Definately Maybe")

Qwikshot
10-30-2008, 11:33 AM
I have a feeling that, although talented (except for the Stones), bands/singers like that were only popular because of their times, and the lack of choices that we have nowadays. I have a feeling that if the internet existed (for everyone) even 20 years ago, a majority of the legends out there would be just run-of-the-mill. There are bands that would be legends regardless, because they were innovators or genre creators, but that would only be a handful.

True, but the internet didn't exist. But I think lack of choices, is the wrong word, lack of exposure is probably better. Probably a bunch of bands that died on the vine. But to say a band like the Beatles would be run of the mill, or Dylan for that matter is, difficult to defend.

I can understand if you hate the sound, the voice, or even the value of the band (Phil Collins, Journey, Boston, White Snake, Tom Petty).

It is a benefit that we have the internet because it allows for more exposure, a band can prove themselves to the fan base (like Dave Matthews did) instead of trying to sell themselves to record exec. That is a benefit to our time.

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 11:34 AM
I didn't say he was horrid, but there are a bunch ahead of George (I was always partial to the riff from "Something"). But that was kind of my point though, the Beatles are hard to hate because they did influence so many bands, some too much (see anthing by Oasis after "Definately Maybe")

I think that, even though Queen is one of the most celebrated bands, Brian May is perhaps the most underrated guitarists ever. He is amazing as a musician and as a song writer. No one gives him credit for his playing or his huge part in the band. His stamp is on everything, yet Freddie gets all of the credit.

AENeuman
10-30-2008, 11:36 AM
to be a really hated band they need to be very successful for a long time. so much so their shtick makes people go from apathy to annoyance to anger. given that, i can see why U2 and Stones are so popular on this thread.

FWIW, i watched a Joy Division doc last night and the bass player said, "U2 is the band Joy Division should have been, they stole our baby." I can see that U2 is always trying to make the next "love will tear us apart"

jeheinz72
10-30-2008, 11:42 AM
a band can prove themselves to the fan base (like Dave Matthews did) instead of trying to sell themselves to record exec.

Uhm, Dave isn't popular (among it's fans) due to the internet...

They hit the scene in '96 (even earlier for some), not exactly a high-water mark of internet usage for music.

Oilers9911
10-30-2008, 12:33 PM
Oh, forgot to mention Coldplay as well.

jeheinz72
10-30-2008, 12:39 PM
Oh, forgot to mention Coldplay as well.

I'm pretty meh on their music, but I've decided the easiest gig in the music industry is to be their drummer.

DeToxRox
10-30-2008, 01:11 PM
Oh .. fuck Lil' Wayne. All he does is steal rhymes and sound retarded.

Qwikshot
10-30-2008, 01:15 PM
Uhm, Dave isn't popular (among it's fans) due to the internet...

They hit the scene in '96 (even earlier for some), not exactly a high-water mark of internet usage for music.

I meant they did a lot of touring to build up their fanbase.

jeheinz72
10-30-2008, 01:18 PM
Oh ok, gotcha, I must've read that wrong

Qwikshot
10-30-2008, 01:19 PM
I think that, even though Queen is one of the most celebrated bands, Brian May is perhaps the most underrated guitarists ever. He is amazing as a musician and as a song writer. No one gives him credit for his playing or his huge part in the band. His stamp is on everything, yet Freddie gets all of the credit.

Well, from what I've read and gathered about Brian is that he's pretty reserved. I know he and Freddie were close though. I was always fascinated that Brian built his own guitar. I think Queen for the most part let Freddie be their spokesman, but I don't think there was any dissention about it. Brian is a talented guitarist, but I would agree that Queen is noted because of how over the top Freddie was.

Side note: I never watched American Idol but I guess they did some Queen songs, and one of the singers wanted to change something and Brian basically told the guy that they were changing an effing thing...major respect to Brian.

Qwikshot
10-30-2008, 01:21 PM
Oh ok, gotcha, I must've read that wrong

I thought it but didn't clarify it, I think DMB had a large touring gathering which elevated them into the mainstream. However, I think it was a major run on bands like Hootie and Blowfish that led that charge (to a lesser extent Blues Traveler who had a few songs out before then but didn't grow until DMB and Hootie got bigger).

Mustang
10-30-2008, 01:24 PM
I've decided the easiest gig in the music industry is to be their drummer.

You're joking right? Have you not seen the Viva La Vida Itune commercial? Do you know how freakin' hard it is to get stardust streams to come off the drumsticks??

Pumpy Tudors
10-30-2008, 01:28 PM
I made a certain joke about Dave Matthews Band on FOFC several years ago, and I was on the verge of getting exiled for it. I think some people still ignore me because of it. So, due to that, I'll say that I hate Red Hot Chili Peppers.

DeToxRox
10-30-2008, 01:29 PM
Dave Matthews Band is terrible.

Pumpy Tudors
10-30-2008, 01:32 PM
Dave Matthews Band is terrible.
I'm agree.

Hurst2112
10-30-2008, 01:43 PM
You're joking right? Have you not seen the Viva La Vida Itune commercial? Do you know how freakin' hard it is to get stardust streams to come off the drumsticks??

LOL! that was effin awesome.

Coffee Warlord
10-30-2008, 01:47 PM
The Beatles.

Winner.

Lathum
10-30-2008, 02:07 PM
The Beatles, man, they are ground zero. Sure you can dislike the 60's pop of it, or the acid influence, the guys didn't play a mean guitar, and were a bit, well, British, but they influenced a bunch of things.


I wouldn't for one second pretend the Beatles didn't have a huge influence on music. I just find their music annoying.

Lathum
10-30-2008, 02:10 PM
I'm pretty meh on their music, but I've decided the easiest gig in the music industry is to be their drummer.

wrong.

AC/DC's drummer has the easiest gig of all time.

Big Fo
10-30-2008, 02:10 PM
I liked Dave Mathews Band until about ten years ago. I still like some of their songs from the mid-90s, the more recent stuff I've heard is pretty lousy.

Lathum
10-30-2008, 02:12 PM
triple dola-

put me up there with the Phish/ Gratefull Dead bands of the world. I dont get the whole jam band thing.

jeheinz72
10-30-2008, 03:20 PM
wrong.

AC/DC's drummer has the easiest gig of all time.

I don't think it's possible to be easier than

1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2

:D

jeheinz72
10-30-2008, 03:20 PM
Dave Matthews Band is terrible.

Let me guess --- "All the songs sound the same"

Ha.

DeToxRox
10-30-2008, 03:29 PM
Let me guess --- "All the songs sound the same"

Ha.

Yes. It all sounds like shit.

Hurst2112
10-30-2008, 03:37 PM
I don't think it's possible to be easier than

1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2

:D

that's how he counts his money during a show.

'100000, 200000, another 10000, 20000'

those boys own the rights to their songs. They are filthy rich.

Pumpy Tudors
10-30-2008, 03:45 PM
OK, I'm going to make the Dave Matthews Band joke again. If I get blasted again, well, it won't be the first time.

I think Dave Matthews deserves a lot of credit for getting three black guys to play music like that.

DeToxRox
10-30-2008, 03:46 PM
OK, I'm going to make the Dave Matthews Band joke again. If I get blasted again, well, it won't be the first time.

I think Dave Matthews deserves a lot of credit for getting three black guys to play music like that.

I think it's two now.

I fucking went there.

Pumpy Tudors
10-30-2008, 03:48 PM
daaaaamn ice cold

DeToxRox
10-30-2008, 03:52 PM
daaaaamn ice cold

I'm the Scott Stevens to your Colin White. We just work.

MikeVic
10-30-2008, 03:53 PM
did you just call pumpy colin white

DeToxRox
10-30-2008, 03:54 PM
did you just call pumpy colin white

Why wouldn't I call pumpy Colin White?

Pumpy Tudors
10-30-2008, 04:00 PM
totally killing myself imo

MikeVic
10-30-2008, 04:17 PM
bundle dick to the rescue.

MJ4H
10-30-2008, 04:22 PM
I seriously have no idea what just went on itt

MikeVic
10-30-2008, 04:24 PM
Pumpy loves Colin White.

Julio Riddols
10-30-2008, 05:50 PM
I'm not saying that music defines who someone is, but that the type of music they listen to and how they feel emotionally about listening to it says something about them even if its subtle.

If your tastes are all over the map, or you don't really particularly get into any specific music, that says something about you. You're just not musically inclined, for one thing.. I find that people who like similar types of music, generally are very similar in other ways. That doesn't mean they can't get along with other people, but generally, there seem to be subtle identifiers that come out more over time as you get to know someone. To me anyway, there is a hint about the unknown ideals a person might subscribe to in the music that they listen to and movies that they really like.

When someone likes similar music and movies to me, I think I make the connection subsconsciously that there has to be something in this persons mind that makes them like the same things I like.. So therefore I draw the conclusion in many cases that they must share something with me deeper than just the surface of what I know about them. I think it typically leads to closer friendships just for the fact that there are so many mutual interests for those who are similar to spend time enjoying together.

It doesn't mean you can't get along with the person, I have friends who love Nickelback. While I never stop giving them shit about it, they generally don't care what I say because we get along and theyre aware of the general perception among our circle of friends that the band sucks.. Its not a conclusive way to determine who is going to vibe with me and who isn't, but if I run into someone who is jamming out to the whole group (Nickleback, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc..) Typically they are the kind of people who I'm not going to get along with.

For me, I think there is greater meaning because I am involved with music, it plays a big role in my day to day life for that reason.. so being that I spend so much time taking it in, I am probably more inclined to be around people who feel the way i do.. My music definitely tells you something about me. YMMV, but in my experience there is just something there that goes beyond the surface of a person in the music they listen to and movies they like, the TV shows they watch, etc.

Suburban Rhythm
10-30-2008, 05:56 PM
I don't get all the votes for Hanson and shit like that. Everyone knows everyone else hates them. Even if you didn't, you'd lie about it. Those don't need written. I mean that is like listing Vanilla Ice or Marky Mark.

I'll second a few I didn't add last night that have come up-

Coldplay
Stinkin Park
Limp Bizkit

Julio Riddols
10-30-2008, 05:57 PM
Oh .. fuck Lil' Wayne. All he does is steal rhymes and sound retarded.

I always wonder how he seems to get so much credit from both the rap publications and the ones that claim to promote "real hip-hop".. He seems to be no different from everyone else making their cash grab on money, drugs and hoes.. Yet he is called the greatest lyricist alive in some cases. I'm like..what? Greatest lyricist alive?

Fidatelo
10-30-2008, 06:34 PM
I'm not saying that music defines who someone is, but that the type of music they listen to and how they feel emotionally about listening to it says something about them even if its subtle.

If your tastes are all over the map, or you don't really particularly get into any specific music, that says something about you. You're just not musically inclined, for one thing.. I find that people who like similar types of music, generally are very similar in other ways. That doesn't mean they can't get along with other people, but generally, there seem to be subtle identifiers that come out more over time as you get to know someone. To me anyway, there is a hint about the unknown ideals a person might subscribe to in the music that they listen to and movies that they really like.

When someone likes similar music and movies to me, I think I make the connection subsconsciously that there has to be something in this persons mind that makes them like the same things I like.. So therefore I draw the conclusion in many cases that they must share something with me deeper than just the surface of what I know about them. I think it typically leads to closer friendships just for the fact that there are so many mutual interests for those who are similar to spend time enjoying together.

It doesn't mean you can't get along with the person, I have friends who love Nickelback. While I never stop giving them shit about it, they generally don't care what I say because we get along and theyre aware of the general perception among our circle of friends that the band sucks.. Its not a conclusive way to determine who is going to vibe with me and who isn't, but if I run into someone who is jamming out to the whole group (Nickleback, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc..) Typically they are the kind of people who I'm not going to get along with.

For me, I think there is greater meaning because I am involved with music, it plays a big role in my day to day life for that reason.. so being that I spend so much time taking it in, I am probably more inclined to be around people who feel the way i do.. My music definitely tells you something about me. YMMV, but in my experience there is just something there that goes beyond the surface of a person in the music they listen to and movies they like, the TV shows they watch, etc.

After reading your post, I suspect it's likely more conscious than you think.

BYU 14
10-30-2008, 06:35 PM
I don't get all the votes for Hanson and shit like that. Everyone knows everyone else hates them. Even if you didn't, you'd lie about it. Those don't need written. I mean that is like listing Vanilla Ice or Marky Mark.

I'll second a few I didn't add last night that have come up-

Coldplay
Stinkin Park
Limp Bizkit

I think Limp Bizkit falls in the Hanson/VI category too.

Here are a few more of mine

Hip Hop - The Game, nowhere near good enough to be as arrogant as he is and Tony Yayo, by far the weakest link of G - Unit.

Rock - Elvis Costello, he may be a genuis, but I never got the appeal...ever.

I will also jump on the Coldplay bandwagon.

Buccaneer
10-30-2008, 06:39 PM
People hating bands/movies that I love absolutely have no impact upon me. Why would I be so insecure as to wrap my identity around how others feel about my likes/dislikes? That's silly.

BrianD
10-30-2008, 06:50 PM
If your tastes are all over the map, or you don't really particularly get into any specific music, that says something about you. You're just not musically inclined, for one thing.

I completely disagree with this. If your tastes are all over the map, it could be that you are sufficiently musically inclined to be able to find good music in many different formats.

Buccaneer
10-30-2008, 06:54 PM
I think that, even though Queen is one of the most celebrated bands, Brian May is perhaps the most underrated guitarists ever. He is amazing as a musician and as a song writer. No one gives him credit for his playing or his huge part in the band. His stamp is on everything, yet Freddie gets all of the credit.

I very much agree with you, my friend. Brian May is perhaps my most favorite guitarist ever. What amazes me still is that he has a doctorate in astrophysics and has (co-)authored some known papers in the field. I also heard that he is now a chancellor or something at a university in England.

As far as the discussion about hate/love, I cannot articulate my hatred for the Stones or Nrivana. It's just something that rubs me completely the wrong way.

I have over 2500 songs on my iPod. I fully expect that no one likes about half of my songs (because they're in genres that no one listens to or likes anymore) and that is perfectly fine with me. I am interested in what other people likes since that potentially allows me to expand my collection.

Buccaneer
10-30-2008, 06:56 PM
I completely disagree with this. If your tastes are all over the map, it could be that you are sufficiently musically inclined to be able to find good music in many different formats.

+1

I would even expand that if you do not have a diverse music taste, you are not that musically inclined. I'm not talking about only listening to classic rock but just listening to (and identifying with) the same 3-4 bands (and their soundalikes) over and over.

st.cronin
10-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Sorry, Schmidty.

Somewhat off topic, I decided to listen to Daydream Nation on the way home last night, I think the first time I listened to it this century. It holds up well. That is some really, really good shit.

Arctic Blast
10-30-2008, 08:10 PM
Phish (and every other group of hack stoners who can't remember the damn song, so they label themselves a 'jam band').
Coldplay.
Dave Matthews Band.
Limp Bizkit.
Linkin Park.
Fall Out Boy/Panic at the Disco.

WSUCougar
10-30-2008, 08:35 PM
The Doors would definitely top my "hate" list.

But seriously now, why do so many of you hate U2? I can understand not liking their music, but damn, there are almost torches and pitchforks rolling toward Bono in this thread. Is it just him being annoying, or what?

DeToxRox
10-30-2008, 08:47 PM
The Doors would definitely top my "hate" list.

But seriously now, why do so many of you hate U2? I can understand not liking their music, but damn, there are almost torches and pitchforks rolling toward Bono in this thread. Is it just him being annoying, or what?

I won't speak for everyone else, but I hate the enviornment.

Fidatelo
10-30-2008, 08:48 PM
But seriously now, why do so many of you hate U2? I can understand not liking their music, but damn, there are almost torches and pitchforks rolling toward Bono in this thread. Is it just him being annoying, or what?

I'm almost the opposite, I can understand not liking Bono, but can't understand not liking at least a small portion of their music.

Fidatelo
10-30-2008, 08:48 PM
I won't speak for everyone else, but I hate the enviornment.


Lol!

MJ4H
10-30-2008, 08:49 PM
I have no real problem with Bono. My only real experience with him is other people complaining about him. It's not like I've met him or really watched him or listened to him outside of the whole U2 playing music thing.

It's the @_#$()@ music that sends me into a murderous rage.

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 08:53 PM
I won't speak for everyone else, but I hate the enviornment.

I find his voice uninteresting and depressing and his personality to be beyond self-absorbent. I think that's why so many people dislike him. I don't hate him, but I am definitely not a fan.

Schmidty
10-30-2008, 09:08 PM
I very much agree with you, my friend. Brian May is perhaps my most favorite guitarist ever. What amazes me still is that he has a doctorate in astrophysics and has (co-)authored some known papers in the field. I also heard that he is now a chancellor or something at a university in England.

Yeah, he's awesome. I think Freddie is amazing, but a lot of my favorite Queen songs aren't only written by Brian, but also sung by him, such as "39", "All Dead, All Dead", "Sleeping on the Sidewalk", "Sail Away Sweet Sister", and "Leaving Home Ain't Easy" come to mind.

Damn, I love Queen. I remember buying "A Day at the Races" back in the late '80s out of a bargain bin, and becoming completely infatuated. I own everything they have on CD, and a lot of other stuff on vinyl and tape.

Although a lot of my musical tastes are my own, especially indie stuff, I find that my dad's influences are prevalent. I mean, at an early age, I was infatuated by stuff like Don McLean, Dan Fogelberg (cheesy, but I love him), Croce, Cat Stevens, Jethro Tull, and on and on. I'm thankful for that.

Buccaneer
10-30-2008, 09:16 PM
Yeah, he's awesome. I think Freddie is amazing, but a lot of my favorite Queen songs aren't only written by Brian, but also sung by him, such as "39", "All Dead, All Dead", "Sleeping on the Sidewalk", "Sail Away Sweet Sister", and "Leaving Home Ain't Easy" come to mind.

Damn, I love Queen. I remember buying "A Day at the Races" back in the late '80s out of a bargain bin, and becoming completely infatuated. I own everything they have on CD, and a lot of other stuff on vinyl and tape.

Although a lot of my musical tastes are my own, especially indie stuff, I find that my dad's influences are prevalent. I mean, at an early age, I was infatuated by stuff like Don McLean, Dan Fogelberg (cheesy, but I love him), Croce, Cat Stevens, Jethro Tull, and on and on. I'm thankful for that.

You're dad and I would be soulmates. I have all of those (except Tull) plus everything John Denver has put out, since he has been one of my main influences throughout my life. There, I said it (I think I have said it before, though). But this thread is about bands, not individuals, so again I am with you on Queen.

Passacaglia
10-30-2008, 09:17 PM
I dunno, I like U2. Maybe you guys should try only listening to War and October like I do.

MJ4H
10-30-2008, 09:18 PM
Maybe you should try dying in a fire. As long as we are recommending pain to each other, that is.

:)

Julio Riddols
10-30-2008, 09:33 PM
I completely disagree with this. If your tastes are all over the map, it could be that you are sufficiently musically inclined to be able to find good music in many different formats.

Yeah, that or should have been an and.

I suck at getting my point across with text.

Julio Riddols
10-30-2008, 09:35 PM
Here's how it should have read, in order to make sense. I'm starting to think that a career in writing is gonna be a bad choice.

"If your tastes are all over the map, AND you don't really particularly get into any music in general, that says something about you. You're just not musically inclined, for one thing."

Worst part about it is that my tastes in music ARE all over the map.. I have no idea how I lack the general ability to translate anything other than abstract thoughts into text, however.

Then again, my friend the other day compared me to Gary Busey personality wise, so I might not have ever had a chance, text or otherwise.

Groundhog
10-30-2008, 10:11 PM
Maybe you should try dying in a fire. As long as we are recommending pain to each other, that is.

:)

:D

Lathum
10-30-2008, 10:14 PM
"If your tastes are all over the map, AND you don't really particularly get into any music in general

how would one have tastes all over the map yet not get into any music in general?

Neuqua
10-30-2008, 10:57 PM
Adam Sandler ruined any chance of me liking Dave Matthews. Everytime I hear a DMB song, I imagine Adam Sandler making his same "sloppy joe" type of sound and I associate it with DMB.

And I'm seriously trying to not hate on Schmidty right now.

jeheinz72
10-31-2008, 08:19 AM
People hating bands/movies that I love absolutely have no impact upon me. Why would I be so insecure as to wrap my identity around how others feel about my likes/dislikes? That's silly.

+1

Kodos
10-31-2008, 10:01 AM
Yeah, he's awesome. I think Freddie is amazing, but a lot of my favorite Queen songs aren't only written by Brian, but also sung by him, such as "39", "All Dead, All Dead", "Sleeping on the Sidewalk", "Sail Away Sweet Sister", and "Leaving Home Ain't Easy" come to mind.


Love Queen, and "39" is one of my favorites.

Julio Riddols
10-31-2008, 10:03 AM
how would one have tastes all over the map yet not get into any music in general?

I guess they wouldn't necessarily have tastes all over the map if they weren't into music in general.. I'm trying to say if you're just indifferent about music, it doesn't bother you, but you don;t give a shit whats on, then you probably aren't big into music.

Hell i don't even know what my original point was anymore. :p

stevew
10-31-2008, 10:12 AM
I always wonder how he seems to get so much credit from both the rap publications and the ones that claim to promote "real hip-hop".. He seems to be no different from everyone else making their cash grab on money, drugs and hoes.. Yet he is called the greatest lyricist alive in some cases. I'm like..what? Greatest lyricist alive?

Anyone who uses that vocoder nonsense excessively sucks ass.

Julio Riddols
10-31-2008, 10:17 AM
Anyone who uses that vocoder nonsense excessively sucks ass.

Yeah.. My friend is a hip hop artist, he just got one of those..

I was talking with him about it and he was like.. I can sing like a motherfucker now..

I was like.. Your computer can sing.

He said he likes that he can use that for when he doesn't have a vocalist to do his choruses, so I figured that would be cool.. Told him to stay the fuck away from T-Pain type shit though. That got old when Cher did it.

path12
10-31-2008, 10:35 AM
Although a lot of my musical tastes are my own, especially indie stuff, I find that my dad's influences are prevalent. I mean, at an early age, I was infatuated by stuff like Don McLean, Dan Fogelberg (cheesy, but I love him), Croce, Cat Stevens, Jethro Tull, and on and on. I'm thankful for that.

My folks loved Cat Stevens and Simon and Garfunkel and those loves have passed down to me. I could listen to Tea for the Tillerman any time.

path12
10-31-2008, 10:37 AM
Anyone who uses that vocoder nonsense excessively sucks ass.

Do You Feel Like We Do?

I guess not then.

jeheinz72
10-31-2008, 10:55 AM
My folks loved Cat Stevens and Simon and Garfunkel and those loves have passed down to me. I could listen to Tea for the Tillerman any time.

Agreed. I grew up on those guys (and Clapton and Jimmy Buffett)

ISiddiqui
10-31-2008, 11:27 AM
The Doors
Matchbox 20
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Dave Matthews Band