I thought we needed an NFL cutdown day thread over here. Post what you have heard and what you think about any of the guys.

We are trying to track them over at SGS (http://vtbub.com/index.php?blog=2).

Here are some that we have collected:

Baltimore Ravens:
The Baltimore Ravens released thirteen players on Monday to get to the roster limit. The Baltimore Sun released this list of players that were waived: TE Rob Abiamiri, CB Bill Alford, T Lester Brown, RB Keith Burnell, DL Walter Curry, DB Jarvis Johnson, LB Steve Josue, T Tron LaFavor, K Rhys Lloyd, OL Marques Ogden, K Owen Pochman, WR Fred Stamps, and WR Curtis Williams.

Carolina Panthers:
The Durham Herald-Sun reported that eleven Carolina Panthers were cut on Sunday: QB Rod Rutherford, WR Taylor Stubblefield, DT Omari Jordan, TE Chad Mustard, CB Dwight Anderson, RB Nick Maddox, WR JR. Tolver, LB Marcus Lawrence, OL Bill Ferrario, OL Chase Johnson, and OL Michael Watson.

Pittsburgh Steelers:
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today released a list of ten Steelers that were cut today: TE Matt Cushing, WR Chris Doering, OL Josh Burr, WR Zamir Cobb, DB Vontez Duff, C Joe Iorio, WR Walter Young, OT Morgan Davis, K Shaun Suisham, G Jake Verstraete. The Steelers still need to cut four more players, to get to their limit of 71 players, by the deadline.

Denver Broncos:
The Denver Post reported RB Maurice Clarett, QB Danny Kanell, DE Raylee Johnson and TE Patrick Hape.

My own thoughts:

Steelers are my favorite team. I don't see any major surprises here, except TE Matt Cushing. He had kind of been a Coach Cowher favorite that played like 3rd or 4th string TE, backup FB, and was a solid special teams guy. He'd been with the team for parts of several seasons. WR Walter Young was supposed to have had an impressive early camp and been a big target, but apparently he didn't open enough eyes.

Carolina cut Mike Watson, who was a two-year starting OT at (my school) WVU. He came via Juco and was a pretty solid starter, but I'm not too surprised that he didn't make it. He was a little slow.

That Denver Post article said that Chicago, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Cleveland, St. Louis and Dallas could all have interest in Maurice Clarett. Steelers definitely need some help with Bettis and Staley both hurting, but I don't see Clarett being much help.

Patriots cut Rohan Davey and Cedric Cobbs. I was kind of surprised about it to be honest...

They also cut safety Dexter Reid.

FM

Big names from Packers camp that were cut were LB Hannibal Navies and G Matt O'Dwyer. Both surprised me, since Navies has been solid the past couple of years and they were pretty pumped about bringing O'Dwyer in. I hope they know what they are doing...

Did that wrestler get cut from the Vikings yet?

;)

Big names from Packers camp that were cut were LB Hannibal Navies and G Matt O'Dwyer. Both surprised me, since Navies has been solid the past couple of years and they were pretty pumped about bringing O'Dwyer in. I hope they know what they are doing...

They cut my boy Navies? Bah! Bring him to Chicago!

(Hung out with him a few times back in Colorado.)

Patriots cut Rohan Davey and Cedric Cobbs. I was kind of surprised about it to be honest...

They also cut safety Dexter Reid.

FM
IMO Davey being cut was probably helpfull to him, someone will sign him in a second. I guess the kid backing up Brady now is Cassel? He look pretty good in the games I saw him in.

The Durham Herald-Sun reported that eleven Carolina Panthers were cut on Sunday: QB Rod Rutherford, WR Taylor Stubblefield, DT Omari Jordan, TE Chad Mustard, CB Dwight Anderson, <b>RB Nick Maddox</b>, WR JR. Tolver, LB Marcus Lawrence, OL Bill Ferrario, OL Chase Johnson, and OL Michael Watson.

Hey, I went to high school 1 semester with him. He was the top ranked running back in his class--guess it was all downhill from there.

IMO Davey being cut was probably helpfull to him, someone will sign him in a second. I guess the kid backing up Brady now is Cassel? He look pretty good in the games I saw him in.

well, dont' foget Flutie .... although he's not a kid.

Flutie in the backup; Cassel made Davey expendable.

Big names from Packers camp that were cut were LB Hannibal Navies and G Matt O'Dwyer. Both surprised me, since Navies has been solid the past couple of years and they were pretty pumped about bringing O'Dwyer in. I hope they know what they are doing...
Navies had fallen behind Ray Thompson and they really like undrafted rookie LB Roy Manning (former Wolverine). The plan of Lenon and Manning made Navies expendable, and the rumor was he also didn't fit Bates' system. O'Dwyer had fallen behind Scott Wells, the rookie Whitticker, Klemm and Ruegamer and didn't even play against NE. All GB wanted was one of the two vets (O'Dwyer or Klemm) to step up and Klemm did that. Along with the surprising play of Wells made him expendable. Whitticker could be this season's Mark Tauscher. He was taken in the 7th (#246) and could end up winning the starting RG spot.

well, dont' foget Flutie .... although he's not a kid.
Was gonna say that, the kid backing Brady should be Flutie :)

I'm a bit more surprised about the release of Cedric Cobbs. I thought they were bringing him along so he would take over for Corey Dillon in a season or two...

FM

I don't know NFL teams, but I know the W&M Players...

Cleveland Browns cut QB Lang Campbell - Lang was the Peyton Award winner this year in I-AA (for those that don't know, it's the I-AA equivelent to the Heisman). I imagine if someone gave him a real shot (he was one of 3 rookies including 3rd rounder Frye) that he could be a solid backup.

New England Patriots cut WR Rich Musinski - He tried to make the Titans last year as a rookie. He was moved to the practice squad for the AFL. Unless he tries the CFL, I think he may be done with professional football.

St. Louis Rams cut WR Dominique Thompson - I was surprised to even see him get signed. Doubt he'll be looked at by another NFL team.

They kind had to cut Davey. He hasn't done anything on the field in years and Cassel is a promising rookie who has looked good on the field his first year, who knows what he has in him. I'm not shedding any tears.

Last I heard Flutie is backing Brady up, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's really Cassel, so that the whole offense wouldn't have to switch gears from Brady to Flutie.

I'm surpised at Cobbs as well, had been reading good things about him. If Dillion gets injured does Faulk take over? Didn't work so well in Pittsburgh last year.

Not really a cut, but Philadelphia has withdrawn the franchise tender they offered DT Corey Simon, effectively making him a free agent.

Go get 'im, Ted Thompson!

Hey, I went to high school 1 semester with him. He was the top ranked running back in his class--guess it was all downhill from there.
I dunno. If he made an NFL camp, even if he didn't make the team, that's not too bad :)

SI

Big names from Packers camp that were cut were LB Hannibal Navies and G Matt O'Dwyer. Both surprised me, since Navies has been solid the past couple of years and they were pretty pumped about bringing O'Dwyer in. I hope they know what they are doing...
Did Sean Morley survive the cuts?

IMO Davey being cut was probably helpfull to him, someone will sign him in a second. I guess the kid backing up Brady now is Cassel? He look pretty good in the games I saw him in.


If you saw Davey play you wouldn't say that. He's terrible.

Was beaten out by a 127 year old QB and a guy that hasn't played a down of football in a game for 4 years.

Cobbs couldn't stay healthy, that's why he got cut. They also have liked some guy named Chapman who is in camp.

If you saw Davey play you wouldn't say that. He's terrible.

Was beaten out by a 127 year old QB and a guy that hasn't played a down of football in a game for 4 years.

Cobbs couldn't stay healthy, that's why he got cut. They also have liked some guy named Chapman who is in camp.


Rumor is that Miami is interested in Davey. Saban is his old coach, and it is not like they have a QB on the roster now.

Rumor is that Miami is interested in Davey. Saban is his old coach, and it is not like they have a QB on the roster now.

That would make sense since Saban is there but I'd be surprised if he is ever starting caliber.

I would guess they tried to shop him around and got the old "No general manager has shown any interest in this player."

Well Davey was awesome in Europe and good on the practice field. Just never transfered to NFL games. Maybe a change of systems and scenery will spark him.

Rohan Davey can be a starting caliber NFL QB, just not in the Pats system. Davey's accuracy shows itself when he can throw vertically down the field; he can put very good touch on midrange to deep passes(kinda like Jeff Blake in his prime). The Patriots want QBs that show their accuracy on shorter routes, that was never Davey's strength. If he can find the right system Davey has a very good arm, good accuracy in the right kind of system, and a good feel for the game.

bah

what jeff said below. they made tons of big plays and ran a very varied offense.

Keeping in mind Brady was near the top in downfield passes last year. I know he's got a reputation, but Dillon let him open up last year. The Pats go longer now.

Rumor is that Miami is interested in Davey. Saban is his old coach, and it is not like they have a QB on the roster now.

They need to cut Feeley and get that over with, give a real look at Sage Rosenfels (or Davey, if they are so inclined), and decide what to do. The indecision regarding Feeley and his sunk costs (the draft pick it cost to get him under the old regime) is starting to wear like an albatross. Move on.

Yeah, Morley has survived so far!

And about that wrestler (Brock Lesnar) he was cut a looooong time ago, heh.

Oh I know that the Pats have a lot of downfield options, especially lately, but short range accuracy first is what the Pats coaches have always built off of in practice, and thats what the coaches have always told Rohan he needs to work on.

NFL Europe doesn't mean a whole lot, hell Danny W. looked good over there at times, but if you have the arm for the NFL, the leaderships skills, and could show them off on a stage like the NFLE, there is no reason you can't show them off in the right system in the NFL. All successful NFLE QBs that I can think of that had NFL bodies and arms have been successful in the NFL.

Went to Bengals.com to find their cuts, none were listed.

Anyway, funny tidbit of news: "DT John Thornton doubts the club is going to sign the Eagles’ Corey Simon and says Simon wouldn’t be an upgrade to his tandem that includes Bryan Robinson"

Though I never even thought for a second we would look at Simon, it's funny that this was reported. Obviously no DT is going to say a better DT that would start over him really needs to come to the team anyway..

I haven't seen the Titans yet.

The Tennessee Titans waived 10 players Monday in an effort to reach a 65-player roster. They are G Mike Erickson, QB Shane Boyd, K Jay Taylor, DT Joe Minucci, DE Shawn Johnson, DE Todd Bates, LB Travis Harris, CB Antoine Harris, WR Adrian Madise and WR Vincent Cartwright

Yeah, Morley has survived so far!Any chance of him making the roster? He's a cousin of a co-worker so we've followed his progress, but it sounds like he's been having a rough time of it at LT.

I think there is a good chance he could be on the roster, if not that then the practice squad. Haven't heard anything bad about him, and as they say, sometimes no news is good news. He did well in NFLE and we can always use decent depth on the line.

just an FYI, but here's a good source for the cuts, and a whole lot of football news, usually as it happens: footballguys.com news blogger (http://news.footballguys.com/new/blogger.php).

It's free and even though it is slanted toward fantasy football, it can have all sorts of news in there...

FM

Went to Bengals.com to find their cuts, none were listed.



They don't need to be made until 4 PM tomorrow.

Football--Becuase of non garanteud contracts--is the one sport that true stars get dumped. Makes great gossip...

The Bills cut some no name guys and RB Rashard Lee. Lee had been unimpressive so far this preseason. RB Shaud Williams should back up McGahee. He's very quick and shifty with decent speed. The knock on him is that he's too small. He actually reminds me a lttle of Thurman Thomas. 7th rnd pick RB Lionel Gates has been impressive so far in the preseason. Big back with speed.
For all you fantasy football guys who drafted Mcgahee, make sure you take Shaud Williams in your draft. Mcgahee seems to get hurt atleast once a game, and it's always scary to see him limp off of the field.

Jim Leonhard is still in Buffalo. Any Bills fans know what his outlook might be?

The Texans made the following cuts

Acholonu, D.D. LB 6-3 230 Washington State Seattle, Wash.
Anderson, Jason RB 6-0 205 South Dakota Palmdale, Calif.
Dunbar, LaTarence WR 5-11 196 TCU Dallas, Texas
Johnson, Chris OT 6-3 330 Arizona Houston, Texas
Kasper, Kevin WR 6-1 202 Iowa Hinsdale, Ill.
Miller, Billy TE 6-3 245 USC Westlake Village, Calif.
Monk, Quincy LB 6-3 250 North Carolina Jacksonville, N.C.
Pitts, Devin WR 6-3 206 San Diego State Carson, Calif.
Sears, Corey DE 6-3 314 Mississippi State Converse, Texas
Starling, Kendrick WR 6-0 193 San Jose State Marshall, Texas
Williams, Carlos DE 6-4 295 Arizona Denver, Colo.
Williams, Cedrick CB 5-9 170 Kansas State Boca Raton, Fla.

I was surprised Vontez Duff was cut by the Steelers.

They need to cut Feeley and get that over with, give a real look at Sage Rosenfels (or Davey, if they are so inclined), and decide what to do. The indecision regarding Feeley and his sunk costs (the draft pick it cost to get him under the old regime) is starting to wear like an albatross. Move on.
Maybe they should ask Shanahan to cut him for them.

The Texans made the following cuts

Acholonu, D.D. LB 6-3 230 Washington State Seattle, Wash.
Anderson, Jason RB 6-0 205 South Dakota Palmdale, Calif.
Dunbar, LaTarence WR 5-11 196 TCU Dallas, Texas
Johnson, Chris OT 6-3 330 Arizona Houston, Texas
Kasper, Kevin WR 6-1 202 Iowa Hinsdale, Ill.
Miller, Billy TE 6-3 245 USC Westlake Village, Calif.
Monk, Quincy LB 6-3 250 North Carolina Jacksonville, N.C.
Pitts, Devin WR 6-3 206 San Diego State Carson, Calif.
Sears, Corey DE 6-3 314 Mississippi State Converse, Texas
Starling, Kendrick WR 6-0 193 San Jose State Marshall, Texas
Williams, Carlos DE 6-4 295 Arizona Denver, Colo.
Williams, Cedrick CB 5-9 170 Kansas State Boca Raton, Fla.


Was I under a rock last season, or wasn't Billy Miller a good TE?

The Texans made the following cuts

Acholonu, D.D. LB 6-3 230 Washington State Seattle, Wash.
Anderson, Jason RB 6-0 205 South Dakota Palmdale, Calif.
Dunbar, LaTarence WR 5-11 196 TCU Dallas, Texas
Johnson, Chris OT 6-3 330 Arizona Houston, Texas
Kasper, Kevin WR 6-1 202 Iowa Hinsdale, Ill.
Miller, Billy TE 6-3 245 USC Westlake Village, Calif.
Monk, Quincy LB 6-3 250 North Carolina Jacksonville, N.C.
Pitts, Devin WR 6-3 206 San Diego State Carson, Calif.
Sears, Corey DE 6-3 314 Mississippi State Converse, Texas
Starling, Kendrick WR 6-0 193 San Jose State Marshall, Texas
Williams, Carlos DE 6-4 295 Arizona Denver, Colo.
Williams, Cedrick CB 5-9 170 Kansas State Boca Raton, Fla.

Billy Miller is somewhat surprising. Didn't really follow him last year, but the year before he was a viable option on my fantasy team.

from what i gather the knock on Cobbs was that he was always hurt and that he wasn't adapting well mentally to NFL football

The Texans really like Matt Murphy as a TE of the future, and i guess Miller's lack of blocking ability finally caught up to him. Still, he'd be a great pickup for some team as a pass catching TE

The Texans really like Matt Murphy as a TE of the future, and i guess Miller's lack of blocking ability finally caught up to him. Still, he'd be a great pickup for some team as a pass catching TE

Would love to see the Eagles take a flyer on him now that they don't have Chad Lewis anymore as the backup (Retirement - although its not official).

Rohan Davey can be a starting caliber NFL QB, just not in the Pats system. Davey's accuracy shows itself when he can throw vertically down the field; he can put very good touch on midrange to deep passes(kinda like Jeff Blake in his prime). The Patriots want QBs that show their accuracy on shorter routes, that was never Davey's strength. If he can find the right system Davey has a very good arm, good accuracy in the right kind of system, and a good feel for the game.
i know they always say backup QB's are the most popular players on the team, but damn Davey is a hell of a player. He's just a total beast. I don't think the Pats will regret cutting him, but I do think that when he lands in the right system he will put up quite good NFL numbers. Great arm, solid accuracy, and he is literally HUGE

Billy Miller is somewhat surprising. Didn't really follow him last year, but the year before he was a viable option on my fantasy team.
has Joppru played for them yet? is he still on the team?

Rohan Davey can be a starting caliber NFL QB, just not in the Pats system. Davey's accuracy shows itself when he can throw vertically down the field; he can put very good touch on midrange to deep passes(kinda like Jeff Blake in his prime). The Patriots want QBs that show their accuracy on shorter routes, that was never Davey's strength. If he can find the right system Davey has a very good arm, good accuracy in the right kind of system, and a good feel for the game.

He has got the right type of game to come north of the border. I think Saskatchewan could use a good QB right now. Berman would be happy about that.

Here are some that we have collected:

Baltimore Ravens:
DB Jarvis Johnson



Damn damn damn.

Joppru has had a season ending injury every season he's been in the league, including this one

WR Peter Warrick (hamstring) said he felt fine after returning to practice after a week's absence. But he would feel a lot better if the Bengals told him their plans. He thinks they have already made up their mind on his status, and on Monday he called for them to cut him Tuesday instead of Saturday if they do plan to release him.

And dammit it looks like Kevin Kaesviharn is going to start at safety this year because Kim Herring is lost for the year it seems. Kaesviharn blows.

WR Peter Warrick (hamstring) said he felt fine after returning to practice after a week's absence. But he would feel a lot better if the Bengals told him their plans. He thinks they have already made up their mind on his status, and on Monday he called for them to cut him Tuesday instead of Saturday if they do plan to release him.

And dammit it looks like Kevin Kaesviharn is going to start at safety this year because Kim Herring is lost for the year it seems. Kaesviharn blows.

Between Housh and this safety, I'd hate to be the Bengals' PBP man.

Between Housh and this safety, I'd hate to be the Bengals' PBP man.
Easy stuff man, Hoosh-mand-zah-deh, Case-vuh-harn

49ers cut

Veteran players:
DE Josh Cooper,
CB Joselio Hanson,
WR Javin Hunter,
LB Andrew Williams,
G Paul Zukauskas

First-year players:
S Arnold Parker,
TE Doug Zeigler,
K Kirk Yliniemi,
P Cole Farden

Injury settlement:
FB Brian Johnson

Damn damn damn.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Lions cuts:

EVERYONE.

Lions cuts:

EVERYONE.
not good enough if it doesn't include the coaching staff

Cowboys cut:

WR Reggie Harrell
CB Lenny Williams

Expected to be cut today:

WR Jamaica Rector
FS Woody Dantzler
OG Chris Van Hoy

From the Falcons website:

In anticipation of the Tuesday, August 30, NFL mandatory cut down to the 65-player roster limit, the Atlanta Falcons announced today that seven players have been waived.
The Falcons waived veterans G Martin Bibla, FB Carey Davis, P Toby Gowin, DE Otis Grigsby, CB Christian Morton, DE John Taylor, and rookie TE Brian Casey.

Bibla, 6-3, 306 pounds, played in 31 games with two starts for the Falcons since being drafted in the fourth round of the 2002 draft out of Miami.
Also, there has been a little bit of talk radio blabber about Peerless Price. Speculation is that Dez White and Mike Williams are the projected starters, and that the coaches don't really care for Price. Considering his salary, he is pretty much untradeable, so there is some conjecture that the Falcons might take the cap hit and let Price go.

I don't see it happening, but there has been some talk about it, so I thought I'd toss it out there.

From the Falcons website:
Also, there has been a little bit of talk radio blabber about Peerless Price. Speculation is that Dez White and Mike Williams are the projected starters, and that the coaches don't really care for Price. Considering his salary, he is pretty much untradeable, so there is some conjecture that the Falcons might take the cap hit and let Price go.

I don't see it happening, but there has been some talk about it, so I thought I'd toss it out there.

Dez White as a starter? Price must REALLY suck.

From the Falcons website:


Also, there has been a little bit of talk radio blabber about Peerless Price. Speculation is that Dez White and Mike Williams are the projected starters, and that the coaches don't really care for Price. Considering his salary, he is pretty much untradeable, so there is some conjecture that the Falcons might take the cap hit and let Price go.

I don't see it happening, but there has been some talk about it, so I thought I'd toss it out there.
I'm probably biased as a UT fan, but I'd LOVE for the skins to pick up Price... I think he gets a bad rap..

Yeah he's overpaid, but he's a good receiver...

Does anyone know if DT Lorn Mayers has survived the cut in Oakland? He's a twenty year-old kid from London (the youngest player to have ever been signed by an NFL team, I hear), and has only been playing football for about two years. I'd love to see him do well over there.

Does anyone know if DT Lorn Mayers has survived the cut in Oakland? He's a twenty year-old kid from London (the youngest player to have ever been signed by an NFL team, I hear), and has only been playing football for about two years. I'd love to see him do well over there.

I haven't seen any news from the Raiders yet.

You might want to check their homepage here. (http://www.raiders.com/default.jsp) Most of the teams have been updating their transactions through their official sites in the past couple of days.

Dez White as a starter? Price must REALLY suck.
I'm probably biased as a UT fan, but I'd LOVE for the skins to pick up Price... I think he gets a bad rap..

Yeah he's overpaid, but he's a good receiver...
The impression I get is that Price is more of a stretch the field type receiver, whereas the Falcons offense favors short route/possession type recievers (hence Finneran's success). I think Price was in a great situation in Buffalo where he had Moulds as the #1 and was able to take advantage of single coverage, usually against the weaker of the cornerbacks. He simply wasn't/isn't a #1, even though the Falcons tried to make him one.

First rate. Thanks. Apparently he's still on the roster ...

Local word is that the Redskins have cut WR Darnerian McCants, who had been a decent redzone target for them in the recent past. Six of seven TDs a couple seasons ago, as I recall. Not a huge find, but I wouldn't be shocked to see the Iggles have a look.

The impression I get is that Price is more of a stretch the field type receiver, whereas the Falcons offense favors short route/possession type recievers (hence Finneran's success).
Your impression is missing the fact that his hands are some unique blend of granite and diamond. He couldn't catch a cold.

It is official. The Falcons cut Price. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/0805/31price.html

From the Falcons website:


Also, there has been a little bit of talk radio blabber about Peerless Price. Speculation is that Dez White and Mike Williams are the projected starters, and that the coaches don't really care for Price. Considering his salary, he is pretty much untradeable, so there is some conjecture that the Falcons might take the cap hit and let Price go.

I don't see it happening, but there has been some talk about it, so I thought I'd toss it out there.


BTW, who the heck is Mike Williams? :D

BTW, who the heck is Mike Williams? :D
Was gonna ask the same as I kept going through my lists of players for my FF draft :D

FM

BTW, who the heck is Mike Williams? :D
Meh. Must be the crack I was smokin'. Michael Jenkins.

It is official. The Falcons cut Price. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/0805/31price.html
Interesting...


I would agree with Buzzer's assessment totally. He was put in a situation as the #1 where he failed....

He is a very good #2 option...

Interesting...


I would agree with Buzzer's assessment totally. He was put in a situation as the #1 where he failed....

He is a very good #2 option...


Or even a three. I would have loved to see him in the slot. I guess they felt 1) It is better to take the hit now than continue to pay him, and/or 2) His attitude would not have held up if he wasn't starting.

San Diego cuts:

Punter Brian Claybourn, defensive end Adrian Dingle, cornerback Abraham Elimimian, running back Derek Farmer, offensive tackle Carlos Joseph, safety Jason Leach, wide receiver Rob Milanese, quarterback Craig Ochs, wide receiver Willie Quinnie, running back Lydell Ross, and linebacker Frank Strong have been let go.

San Diego cuts Dingle
The unkindest cut...

The unkindest cut...
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Hate to see the Cowboys cut Jamaica Rector, from my alma mater and D-II school, NW Missouri State. I was hoping he'd hang on with the team and turn into the new Rod Smith, from Missouri Southern.

Lions' cuts:

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nobody on the Lions list I can say I'm sorry to see go, but then, I would probably say that about anybody on the team after last night

And Hutchinson is officially given the boot.

Poor Timmy Chang...

Poor Lydell Ross

ESPN.com is reporting Warrick is heading to Seattle Tuesday for a visit, and also has interest from Tampa Bay, the Giants, Colts, and Packers.

I'd love to see Peter go to the Seahawks, almost the best fit for him.

"Also Tuesday, the Bengals ended the season of safety Kim Herring (shoulder) when they put him on injured reserve to get down to the mandatory 68 players by 4 p.m. Tuesday. They also waived two players, third-year cornerback Terrell Roberts and rookie guard Kyle Takavitz, and added veteran safety Ifeanyi Ohalete and veteran linebacker Hannibal Navies."

Wow! Nice, two players I actually recognize. Even though I don't know if Navies will make the list of 53, our depth at LB is so deep.

A question for Bengals fans: Who is going to be the #3 receiver for the Bengals? I'm hopeful that down the road it'll be Chris Henry, but who is he battling for the spot?

A question for Bengals fans: Who is going to be the #3 receiver for the Bengals? I'm hopeful that down the road it'll be Chris Henry, but who is he battling for the spot?
I'm pretty sure it will be Kelley Washington, he has earned it for the past two years. Plus, he has the coolest endzone dances in the league, so he wins.

I'm pretty sure it will be Kelley Washington, he has earned it for the past two years. Plus, he has the coolest endzone dances in the league, so he wins.
Go Vols!

nobody on the Lions list I can say I'm sorry to see go, but then, I would probably say that about anybody on the team after last night

Poor HoJack... :(

At least Paul Smith is still on the roster.

Expected to be cut today:

WR Jamaica Rector
FS Woody Dantzler
OG Chris Van Hoy

Rector and Van Hoy were cut along with former Duke Basketball player turned LB project Reggie Love.

It looks like Dantzler is being kept right now because of his NFL Europe exemption but will soon be cut along with RB Kenyon Kincade.

I'm pretty sure it will be Kelley Washington, he has earned it for the past two years. Plus, he has the coolest endzone dances in the league, so he wins.

Shorty, I couldn't find the source, but yesterday I read that Washington had earned the #3 job, but that Henry was knocking on the door. I hope Henry does some good things for the Bengals... when they are not playing the Steelers. :)

Rector and Van Hoy were cut along with former Duke Basketball player turned LB project Reggie Love.

It looks like Dantzler is being kept right now because of his NFL Europe exemption but will soon be cut along with RB Kenyon Kincade.

I didn't know Reggie Love was playing football. I used to see him at my favorite restaurant on 9th Street (near Duke).

I didn't know Reggie Love was playing football. I used to see him at my favorite restaurant on 9th Street (near Duke).

Yeah, I guess he was a WR at one point in college before turning to basketball. He put on a bunch of weight, and the Cowboys thought he'd be a project at LB. Apparently, he has some talent and will likely be a practice team guy for Dallas.

Shorty, I couldn't find the source, but yesterday I read that Washington had earned the #3 job, but that Henry was knocking on the door. I hope Henry does some good things for the Bengals... when they are not playing the Steelers. :)
No doubt in my mind Henry will get PT this year, and soon could replace Kelley as the #3, while Washington is only in his third year, he's already 26.

ESPN NFL Index headline - Warrick not unemployed long, signs with Seahawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2148248)

The link is dead, but it's a headline. I hope it's true, he will probably be a starter on the Seahawks. In Madden 05 I was unbeatable with the Seahawks, maybe with Warrick it can happen again.

I just want to see him do well.

ESPN NFL Index headline - Warrick not unemployed long, signs with Seahawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2148248)

The link is dead, but it's a headline. I hope it's true, he will probably be a starter on the Seahawks. In Madden 05 I was unbeatable with the Seahawks, maybe with Warrick it can happen again.

I just want to see him do well.
I'd take Peerless over him...obviously you never played me, since I was nigh unbeatable with the Raiders in Madden 05.

If Warrick signs on with the Seahawks, even if he can be a productive #3 guy, I'll be quite happy. Does mean we have a ton of #3 guys on the team (Engram, Warrick, Joe J., Pathon), so hopefully one of them steps up to be a solid #2, but I think a large load is going to be on Jackson's shoulders to get rid of the drops this year and really carry the aerial attack.

Local word is that the Redskins have cut WR Darnerian McCants, who had been a decent redzone target for them in the recent past. Six of seven TDs a couple seasons ago, as I recall. Not a huge find, but I wouldn't be shocked to see the Iggles have a look.

Ding. McCants has apparently signed with the Eagles.

Poor FredX

Chiefs | Mitchell Let Loose
Fri, 2 Sep 2005 07:35:24 -0700

The Kansas City Chiefs have terminated the contract of WR Freddie Mitchell.

Poor FredX

Chiefs | Mitchell Let Loose
Fri, 2 Sep 2005 07:35:24 -0700

The Kansas City Chiefs have terminated the contract of WR Freddie Mitchell.
Thats odd, because, according to Freddie Mitchell, Freddie Mitchell is the Greatest Human Being Ever.

Poor FredX

Chiefs | Mitchell Let Loose
Fri, 2 Sep 2005 07:35:24 -0700

The Kansas City Chiefs have terminated the contract of WR Freddie Mitchell.
Chiefs can't find a WR to save their life. First Hakim spurns them after saying he would sign here and now Mitchell and this.

SI

My friend and I were discussing this during our fantasy draft:

When was the last time the Chiefs had a really good WR? (seriously)

Thats odd, because, according to Freddie Mitchell, Freddie Mitchell is the Greatest Human Being Ever.

I picture a Dave Chappele skit where he exclaims, "I'm Freddie Mitchell, bitch!"

My friend and I were discussing this during our fantasy draft:

When was the last time the Chiefs had a really good WR? (seriously)

Derrick Alexander?

My friend and I were discussing this during our fantasy draft:

When was the last time the Chiefs had a really good WR? (seriously)

Stephone Paige, baby!

Joe Horn!

Stephone Paige had one really big game.


I got nothing...


(and that wasn't a respone to Jeeber, either - he's the first guy I thought of, honestly)

Andre Rison!

Hey now, I wouldn't call this just one big game. Not fantastic numbers, but pretty dang solid for a number of years...


Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+----
30 528 17.6 6 |
30 541 18.0 4 |
43 943 21.9 10 |
52 829 15.9 11 |
43 707 16.4 4 |
61 902 14.8 7 |
44 759 17.2 2 |
65 1021 15.7 5 |
9 111 12.3 0

Otis Taylor:

| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1965 kan | 14 | 2 17 8.5 0 | 26 446 17.2 5 |
| 1966 kan | 14 | 2 33 16.5 0 | 58 1297 22.4 8 |
| 1967 kan | 14 | 5 29 5.8 1 | 59 958 16.2 11 |
| 1968 kan | 11 | 5 41 8.2 1 | 20 420 21.0 4 |
| 1969 kan | 11 | 2 -2 -1.0 0 | 41 696 17.0 7 |
| 1970 kan | 13 | 3 13 4.3 0 | 34 618 18.2 3 |
| 1971 kan | 14 | 1 25 25.0 1 | 57 1110 19.5 7 |
| 1972 kan | 14 | 5 13 2.6 0 | 57 821 14.4 6 |
| 1973 kan | 14 | 4 -14 -3.5 0 | 34 565 16.6 4 |
| 1974 kan | 10 | 1 6 6.0 0 | 24 375 15.6 2 |
| 1975 kan | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 130 | 30 161 5.4 3 | 410 7306 17.8 57

Stephone Paige:

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1983 kan | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 30 528 17.6 6 |
| 1984 kan | 16 | 3 19 6.3 0 | 30 541 18.0 4 |
| 1985 kan | 16 | 1 15 15.0 0 | 43 943 21.9 10 |
| 1986 kan | 16 | 2 -2 -1.0 0 | 52 829 15.9 11 |
| 1987 kan | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 43 707 16.4 4 |
| 1988 kan | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 61 902 14.8 7 |
| 1989 kan | 14 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 44 759 17.2 2 |
| 1990 kan | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 65 1021 15.7 5 |
| 1991 kan | 3 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 9 111 12.3 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 125 | 6 32 5.3 0 | 377 6341 16.8 49

Does that list make you think "really good" rather than "decent starting player?" It doesn't for me. He did have one hell of a game though.

Does that list make you think "really good" rather than "decent starting player?" It doesn't for me. He did have one hell of a game though.

I choose 'decent starting'. Taylor had a good year in 66 (14 games). Course, he had Dawson. Paige had Deberg.

Does that list make you think "really good" rather than "decent starting player?"

Going by that, it looks like KC has never had a "really good" receiver. Stephon and Otis look to be the best of the bunch...

Alexander prob had the best single season in 2000:
78 catches, 1391 yds, 17.8 ypc, 10 tds

Hehe...FredEx cut. Hehe. What a maroon!

Spiderman was the best Chief WR of all-time, even if not in his prime.

Alexander prob had the best single season in 2000:
78 catches, 1391 yds, 17.8 ypc, 10 tds

I like those stats. Though, I had a monster year with Stephone in a season of Tecmo Super Bowl. Better than the one you listed.

;)
:p

Dola:

Course I had Word and Okoye busting big yardage up the middle so my play action and flea-flickers ran up most of the big receiving yardage.

Ah, The Nigerian Nightmare...we hardly knew ye.

that's an easy one: Tony Gonzalez ;)

that's an easy one: Tony Gonzalez ;)
WIDE_RECEIVER? I THINK NOT FROG

Dola:

Course I had Word and Okoye busting big yardage up the middle so my play action and flea-flickers ran up most of the big receiving yardage.

Christian Okoye... A bona fide God in my old edition of Strat o Matic football!

Hey Shorty, what is the word on RB Quincy Wilson?

I know he is on the bubble, but I hope he makes the team. He was a stud during his last two years at WVU and made one of the greatest plays I have ever seen against Miami two years ago.

Hehe...FredEx cut. Hehe. What a maroon!
Chiefs | Mitchell Says Surgery Declinement Was Reason for Release
Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:35:34 -0700

Adam Teicher (http://www.kffl.com/link/143), of the Kansas City Star (http://www.kffl.com/link/142), reports free agent WR Freddie Mitchell (http://www.kffl.com/player/1494/nfl) (knee) said the Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl) released him because the team believed his knee would not last the entire season without having arthroscopic surgery performed on his torn meniscus. "It wasn't about my athletic ability or anything else," said Mitchell, who declined to have surgery at the time as the Chiefs (http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl) requested. Mitchell indicated the Chiefs (http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl) would consider re-signing him if he had surgery and rehabilitation. Mitchell said he arranged the surgery for Tuesday, Sept. 6, in Birmingham, Ala.

Mitchell was hoping that the injury wasn't that serious and that he would be ready in time, and that's why he declined the surgury at that time. Word in KC is that he's going to have the surgury/rehab and then rejoin the Chiefs later in the season.


BTW Blacky, what does 'What a maroon' mean??? ;)

BTW Blacky, what does 'What a maroon' mean??? ;)
Ow. You didn't just say that. Doctor, get him 50cc's of Bugs Bunny, stat! :D

SI

Steelers have cut a few more meaningful players. That is, guys that have been on their roster for awhile.

Long snapper Mike Schneck, QB Brian St. Pierre, and former 2nd round pick OLB Alonzo Jackson. Also, looks like former Georgia WR and 2005 4th round pick Fred Gibson will also be cut. I'm pretty disappointed about Gibson. He seemed like a nice big target and, with the Georgia connection, I figured he might learn how to play a bit from Hines Ward.

WIDE_RECEIVER? I THINK NOT FROG
hence the winky...

2005 4th round pick Fred Gibson will also be cut. I'm pretty disappointed about Gibson. He seemed like a nice big target and, with the Georgia connection, I figured he might learn how to play a bit from Hines Ward.

Does that mean it looks like Lee Mays will be getting another year with the Steelers?

Does that mean it looks like Lee Mays will be getting another year with the Steelers?

The team only has six receivers left, so Mays has apparantly made it, but has a hamstring injury that Coach Cowher called serious. So, he may be out for a bit.

I've heard that he may be out for six weeks, but that's better than being cut. Thanks for the info!

Lions' final cuts.

http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=435248

<table class="body" border="1" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#006db0" height="17"><td>No.</td> <td>Name</td> <td>Pos.</td> <td>Ht.</td> <td>Wt.</td> <td>Age</td> <td>Exp.</td> <td>College</td></tr> <tr> <td>29</td> <td>Cash, Chris</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-10</td> <td>185</td> <td>25</td> <td>4</td> <td>USC</td></tr> <tr> <td>99</td> <td>Goddard, Johnathan</td> <td>LB</td> <td>6-0</td> <td>238</td> <td>24</td> <td>R</td> <td>Marshall</td></tr> <tr> <td>47</td> <td>Guman, Andrew</td> <td>S</td> <td>6-3</td> <td>208</td> <td>23</td> <td>R</td> <td>Penn State</td></tr> <tr> <td>86</td> <td>Hamilton, Paris</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-1</td> <td>195</td> <td>24</td> <td>R</td> <td>Minnesota</td></tr> <tr> <td>68</td> <td>Hopson, Tyrone</td> <td>G</td> <td>6-2</td> <td>294</td> <td>29</td> <td>4</td> <td>Eastern Kentucky</td></tr> <tr> <td>60</td> <td>Jimenez, Jason</td> <td>T</td> <td>6-7</td> <td>320</td> <td>25</td> <td>1</td> <td>Southern Miss</td></tr> <tr> <td>60</td> <td>Kennedy, Brandon</td> <td>DT</td> <td>5-10</td> <td>350</td> <td>23</td> <td>R</td> <td>North Texas</td></tr> <tr> <td>87</td> <td>Kircus, David</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-2</td> <td>190</td> <td>25</td> <td>3</td> <td>Grand Valley State</td></tr> <tr> <td>12</td> <td>Martinez, Glenn</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-2</td> <td>183</td> <td>23</td> <td>1</td> <td>Saginaw Valley State</td></tr> <tr> <td>43</td> <td>Matthews, Will</td> <td>FB</td> <td>6-3</td> <td>250</td> <td>24</td> <td>R</td> <td>Texas</td></tr> <tr> <td>16</td> <td>Mortensen, Todd</td> <td>QB</td> <td>6-4</td> <td>225</td> <td>26</td> <td>R</td> <td>San Diego</td></tr> <tr> <td>61</td> <td>Murphy, Rob</td> <td>G</td> <td>6-5</td> <td>310</td> <td>28</td> <td>5</td> <td>Ohio State</td></tr> <tr> <td>74</td> <td>Powell, Eric</td> <td>DE</td> <td>6-3</td> <td>278</td> <td>25</td> <td>1</td> <td>Florida State</td></tr> <tr> <td>89</td> <td>Randall, Jason</td> <td>TE</td> <td>6-5</td> <td>269</td> <td>22</td> <td>R</td> <td>Michigan State</td></tr> <tr> <td>71</td> <td>Rogers, Victor</td> <td>T</td> <td>6-6</td> <td>331</td> <td>26</td> <td>4</td> <td>Colorado</td></tr> <tr> <td>46</td> <td>Sanchez, Jeff</td> <td>DB</td> <td>5-9</td> <td>182</td> <td>24</td> <td>1</td> <td>Tulane</td></tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>Vines, Scottie</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-1</td> <td>204</td> <td>26</td> <td>2</td> <td>Wyoming</td></tr> <tr> <td>23</td> <td>White, Jamel</td> <td>RB</td> <td>5-9</td> <td>222</td> <td>27</td> <td>6</td> <td>South Dakota</td></tr></tbody> </table>
Biggest name is probably Chris Cash. Poor Circus Kircus.

Lions' final cuts.

http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=435248

<table class="body" border="1" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#006db0" height="17"><td>No.</td> <td>Name</td> <td>Pos.</td> <td>Ht.</td> <td>Wt.</td> <td>Age</td> <td>Exp.</td> <td>College</td></tr> <tr> <td>29</td> <td>Cash, Chris</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-10</td> <td>185</td> <td>25</td> <td>4</td> <td>USC</td></tr> <tr> <td>99</td> <td>Goddard, Johnathan</td> <td>LB</td> <td>6-0</td> <td>238</td> <td>24</td> <td>R</td> <td>Marshall</td></tr> <tr> <td>47</td> <td>Guman, Andrew</td> <td>S</td> <td>6-3</td> <td>208</td> <td>23</td> <td>R</td> <td>Penn State</td></tr> <tr> <td>86</td> <td>Hamilton, Paris</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-1</td> <td>195</td> <td>24</td> <td>R</td> <td>Minnesota</td></tr> <tr> <td>68</td> <td>Hopson, Tyrone</td> <td>G</td> <td>6-2</td> <td>294</td> <td>29</td> <td>4</td> <td>Eastern Kentucky</td></tr> <tr> <td>60</td> <td>Jimenez, Jason</td> <td>T</td> <td>6-7</td> <td>320</td> <td>25</td> <td>1</td> <td>Southern Miss</td></tr> <tr> <td>60</td> <td>Kennedy, Brandon</td> <td>DT</td> <td>5-10</td> <td>350</td> <td>23</td> <td>R</td> <td>North Texas</td></tr> <tr> <td>87</td> <td>Kircus, David</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-2</td> <td>190</td> <td>25</td> <td>3</td> <td>Grand Valley State</td></tr> <tr> <td>12</td> <td>Martinez, Glenn</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-2</td> <td>183</td> <td>23</td> <td>1</td> <td>Saginaw Valley State</td></tr> <tr> <td>43</td> <td>Matthews, Will</td> <td>FB</td> <td>6-3</td> <td>250</td> <td>24</td> <td>R</td> <td>Texas</td></tr> <tr> <td>16</td> <td>Mortensen, Todd</td> <td>QB</td> <td>6-4</td> <td>225</td> <td>26</td> <td>R</td> <td>San Diego</td></tr> <tr> <td>61</td> <td>Murphy, Rob</td> <td>G</td> <td>6-5</td> <td>310</td> <td>28</td> <td>5</td> <td>Ohio State</td></tr> <tr> <td>74</td> <td>Powell, Eric</td> <td>DE</td> <td>6-3</td> <td>278</td> <td>25</td> <td>1</td> <td>Florida State</td></tr> <tr> <td>89</td> <td>Randall, Jason</td> <td>TE</td> <td>6-5</td> <td>269</td> <td>22</td> <td>R</td> <td>Michigan State</td></tr> <tr> <td>71</td> <td>Rogers, Victor</td> <td>T</td> <td>6-6</td> <td>331</td> <td>26</td> <td>4</td> <td>Colorado</td></tr> <tr> <td>46</td> <td>Sanchez, Jeff</td> <td>DB</td> <td>5-9</td> <td>182</td> <td>24</td> <td>1</td> <td>Tulane</td></tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>Vines, Scottie</td> <td>WR</td> <td>6-1</td> <td>204</td> <td>26</td> <td>2</td> <td>Wyoming</td></tr> <tr> <td>23</td> <td>White, Jamel</td> <td>RB</td> <td>5-9</td> <td>222</td> <td>27</td> <td>6</td> <td>South Dakota</td></tr></tbody> </table>
Biggest name is probably Chris Cash. Poor Circus Kircus.

WOW. I'm suprised that they cut Vines and Kircus. Also very suprised by the Wil Matthews and Victor Rogers cut.

WOW. I'm suprised that they cut Vines and Kircus. Also very suprised by the Wil Matthews and Victor Rogers cut.
Yeah, I was a bit suprised too at the wideouts too. I guess they wanted to have more depth along the d-line (keeping Swancutt) and defensive backfield. Also, Mooch loves Paul Smith. He'll be around for like a week before he goes on IR for the year. Don't worry...

The Pats have released David Terrell among 17 cuts announced today

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriotsmoves&prov=ap&type=lgns

Among other sort of known players, wide receiver P.K. Sam and tight end Jed Weaver.

FM

The Pats have released David Terrell among 17 cuts announced today

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriotsmoves&prov=ap&type=lgns

Among other sort of known players, wide receiver P.K. Sam and tight end Jed Weaver.

FM

Yet another U-M flameout. I give Braylon 2-3 years before he implodes.

Seriously, U-M is a great football college, but definitely not a good NFL player producer. MSU might be mediocre, but our guys have a lot more NFL tools apparantly.

By the way, remember that I said that U-M is a great football program. Cut me a little slack before unloading. ;)

Steelers have cut a few more meaningful players. That is, guys that have been on their roster for awhile.

Long snapper Mike Schneck, QB Brian St. Pierre, and former 2nd round pick OLB Alonzo Jackson. Also, looks like former Georgia WR and 2005 4th round pick Fred Gibson will also be cut. I'm pretty disappointed about Gibson. He seemed like a nice big target and, with the Georgia connection, I figured he might learn how to play a bit from Hines Ward.
Yeah, but we kept Lee Mays. :thud

At least they kept TE Krancheck.

I've heard that he may be out for six weeks, but that's better than being cut. Thanks for the info!
No, he needed to be cut. We'll give you him and a fifth rounder if you guys take him in Dallas.

Not going to happen since Peerless has just signed in Dallas.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2151065

Seriously, U-M is a great football college, but definitely not a good NFL player producer. Two words: Tom. Brady.

You, sir, have been pwned.

Yet another U-M flameout. I give Braylon 2-3 years before he implodes.

Seriously, U-M is a great football college, but definitely not a good NFL player producer. MSU might be mediocre, but our guys have a lot more NFL tools apparantly.
Dola.

NFL Hall of Famers:

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="row2">Michigan</td> <td class="row2">(7)</td> <td class="row2" valign="top">George Allen (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=14)* , Dan Dierdorf (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=56), Len Ford (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=69)* , Benny Friedman (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=241), Bill Hewitt (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=96), Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=98)* , Tom Mack (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=137)</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="row1">


Michigan State</td> <td class="row1">(2)

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Herb Adderley (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=9), Joe DeLamielleure (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=54)</td></tr></tbody> </table>

Not going to happen since Peerless has just signed in Dallas.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2151065


Hmm... well, I'll wait and see. But this just doesn't make a ton of sense to me (as I posted in that other thread).

As far as the Dallas cuts, there were several surprises (at least to me, and I follow the Cowboys pretty closely):

T - Kurt Vollers (Parcells really liked his ability to play both sides)
T - Tyson Walter (another versatile guy that can play guard and tackle)
TE - Jeff Robinson (with all the problems Dallas had a couple years ago with deep-snapping, I thought Robinson was a lock to make it again)
S - Lynn Scott (Started several games last year)

The Pats have released David Terrell among 17 cuts announced today

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriotsmoves&prov=ap&type=lgns

Among other sort of known players, wide receiver P.K. Sam and tight end Jed Weaver.

FM
to add on my first comment. Jed Weaver being cut means the Pats are going into the season with Ben Watson, Daniel Graham, and Christian Fauria at TE. Fauria was said to be on the bubble from what I was reading... I'm happy they kept him.

FM

Because I can't handle any more depressing Katrina news, here are some cuts.

Washington Redskins

Jon Alston, OL
Tyler Lenda, OL
Mark Wilson, OL
Robert Johnson, TE
Kevin Dyson, WR
Jimmy Farris, WR
Jamin Elliott, WR
Rich Parson, WR
Aki Jones, DL
Brandon Barnes, LB
Robert McCune, LB
Rufus Brown, DB
Eric Joyce, DB
Siddeeq Shabazz, DB
Garnell Wilds, DB
Ron Warner, DE
Chris Mohr, P

With McCune getting cut(a real surprise to me) that means the fifth and sixth rounders for 2005 are cut and the fourth rounder is on IR. Is it any wonder they suck?

Oh, and Shabazz marks the third safety that either quit or got cut after they signed them from another team. Can Tagliabue give them a GM as a compensatory pick for Pearce and Smoot?

Bengals cuts

WAIVED: Rookie CB Patrick Body, second-year QB Casey Bramlet, second-year WR Jamall Broussard, rookie LB Derek Curry, first-year FB/TE Ronnie Ghent, rookie S Herana-Daze Jones, first-year OL Pete Lougheed, second-year DT Langston Moore, rookie WR Dante Ridgeway, fourth-year WR Cliff Russell, rookie K Carter Warley, first-year CB Brandon Williams, first-year RB Quincy Wilson.

NFL SUSPENSION: 10-year DE Duane Clemons (four weeks).

Physically Unable to Perform: second-year LB Caleb Miller (six weeks).


The Clemons suspension really hurts the pass D. No real surprises. Marvin keeps all the draft picks and gets rid of the guys that have three-four years of experience and could be free agents next year.

Swaggs: Sorry about Wilson. He'll find a job, but the Bengals went with only four running backs and Wilson wasn't versatile enough to beat Perry or Watson.

Hard for me to imagine that there are 120ish or more active running backs in the NFL that are better than Quincy Wilson, so hopefully he will catch on with someone else. The Steelers could probably use him, as a matter of fact.

And from the other teams I don't follow. All of this from ESPN.

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Saturday, September 3, 2005
TEAM

New York Jets Waived defensive backs Atari Bigby, Aaron Francisco and Brandon Haw, running backs Terry Butler and Little John Flowers, quarterback Kevin Eakin, defensive linemen Joey Evans, Radell Lockhart and Tim McGill, wide receivers Chas Gessner, Terrence Stubbs, Harry Williams and Jovan Witherspoon, linebackers Dennis Haley and James Kinney, offensive linemen Michael King, Mike Kracalik and Chuck Missant and fullback Austine Nwabuisi; acquired tackle-guard Steve Morley

Cleveland Browns Released wide receivers Richard Alston and C.J. Jones, linebackers Jamal Brooks and Omar Nazel, cornerback Dyshod Carter, guards Enoch DeMar and Mike Pucillo, safety Michael Grant, quarterback Josh Harris, tight end Paul Irons, running back Sultan McCullough, fullback Ben Miller, defensive tackle J'Vonne Parker and tackle Greg Randall; waived defensive tackle Amon Gordon and linebackers Ivory McCoy and Renauld Williams; placed tackle Jonathan Dunn and safety Antwan Harris on injured reserve

San Diego Chargers Released linebackers Phil Archer and Robby Farmer, defensive tackles Ryon Bingham and Jemelle Cage, tackles Wesley Britt and Cory Lekkerkerker, safety Robb Butler, wide receivers Greg Camarillo, Malcom Floyd, Ruvell Martin and Carl Morris, cornerbacks Jonathan Cox, Markus Curry and Gabe Franklin, running backs Ahmaad Galloway and Ray Perkins, defensive end Robert Pollard, tight end Duncan Reid and Danny Young, center Isaiah Ross and guard Wes Sims.

Philadelphia Eagles Signed wide receiver Darnerien McCants to a one-year contract; activated punter Dirk Johnson from the physically-unable-to-perform list; released defensive ends Hugh Douglas and Jamaal Green, centers Dominic Furio and Jamaal Jackson, wide receivers Michael Gasperson, Carlos Perez and Chauncey Stovall, quarterback Andy Hall, defensive tackles Norm Heuer and Keyonta Marshall, punter Sean Landeta, linebacker Martin Patterson, fullback Jon Ritchie, guards Steve Sciullo and Scott Young, tight end

New England Patriots Released linebackers Eric Alexander, Grant Steen and Andre Torrey, defensive linemen Rodney Bailey and Tom Sverchek, running back Kory Chapman, wide receivers Bam Childress, P.K. Sam and David Terrell, fullback Kyle Eckel, tight ends Joel Jacobs and Jed Weaver, tackles Victor Leyva and Jeff Roehl, safety Raymond Ventrone, guard Billy Yates and guard-center Gene Mruczkowski

Jacksonville Jaguars Released running backs David Allen, Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala and Rich Alexis, cornerbacks Kiwaukee Thomas and Chris Thompson, linebackers Jimmy McClain and Nate Wayne, defensive tackles Martin Chase and Tony Williams, guards Derrick Fletcher and Joe Tate, center Brett Romberg, defensive ends Jim Davis, Omari Hand and Benard Thomas, wide receiver Kelvin Kight and tight end Mark Wood; placed tight end Todd Yoder on injured reserve.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers Released safeties Hamza Abdullah and Kalvin Pearson, linebackers Josh Buhl, Matt Grootegoed and Jermaine Taylor, guard-center Jonathan Clinkscale, defensive tackles Delbert Cowsette and Bryan Save, tackles Derrick Deese and Sam Lightbody, kicker Todd France, tight end Will Heller, center Scott Jackson, wide receivers Derek McCoy, Terrance Metcalf and DeAndrew Rubin, cornerback James Patrick, defensive ends Josh Savage and Andrew Williams, punter Brian Simnjanovski and running back Derek Watson

Seattle Seahawks Waived safeties Terreal Bierria and Omare Lowe, running backs Kerry Carter and Marquis Weeks, tight end Brock Edwards, defensive ends Kevin Emanuel and Christian Mohr, quarterback Gilbran Hamdan, cornerbacks Michael Harden and B.J. Tucker, center William Henry, fullback Tony Jackson, guards Andy King and Doug Nienhuis, punter Chris Kluwe, defensive tackles Cleveland Pinkney and Rashad Moore, linebackers Terrence Robinson, Tracy White and Cornelius Wortham and wide receiver Taco Wallace

San Francisco 49ers Waived defensive end Tony Brown, linebackers Ray Wells, Richard Seigler and Matt Yates, cornerbacks Willie Middlebrooks, Rayshun Reed, Daven Holly and Allan Amundson, guard Scott Peters, tackles Brendan Darby and Tim Provost, center Norm Katnik, fullback Tony Ficklin, running back Bobby Purify and wide receiver Marcus Maxwell.

St. Louis Rams Released guard Darnell Alford, defensive tackles Jeremy Calahan and John Parrella, wide receivers Jeremy Carter and Dominique Thompson, centers Toby Cecil and Larry Turner, cornerback Kevin Garrett, running backs Joey Goodspeed and Dusty McGrorty, quarterback Jeff Smoker and safety Michael Stone.

New York Giants Terminated the contracts of linebacker Kevin Lewis, quarterback Jesse Palmer, running back Michael Cloud and offensive lineman Lewis Kelly; waived offensive linemen Wayne Lucier, Brandon Winey, Morgan Pears and Myniya Smith, running back Ryan Grant, wide receivers Mark Jones, Ataveus Cash and Michael Jennings, tight end Darius Williams, defensive linemen Jonas Seawright and Raheem Orr, linebackers James Maxwell and T.J. Hollowell and safety Curry Burns; signed running back Chad Morton.

Minnesota Vikings Released punter Travis Dorsch, kicker Aaron Elling, wide receivers Chris Jones and Ryan Hoag, safety Will Hunter, running backs ReShard Lee, Butchie Wallace and Adimchinobe Echemandu, tight ends Sean Berton, T.J. Cottrell and Richard Angulo, cornerbacks Adrian Ward and Ukee Dozier, linebacker Heath Farwell, tackle Shannon Snell, guards Chris Jahnke and Brandon Newton, defensive tackle Matt Mitrione and defensive end Earl Cochran; placed defensive tackle Steve Martin on injured reserve

Miami Dolphins Waived safeties Tony Bua, Deandre Eiland and Jack Hunt, running back Lamar Gordon, punter Donnie Jones, tight ends Donald Lee, John Owens and Jason Rader, wide receiver Maurice Mann, fullback Jamar Martin, guards Rodney Reed, Eric Wilson, Jason Thomas and Taylor Whitley, defensive tackles Reggie Rhodes and Dario Romero, defensive end Matt Walters and linebacker Winston Taylor; terminated the contracts of tackle Damion Cook and defensive tackle Larry Chester; placed center wade Smith

Kansas City Chiefs Released tackle Thomas Barnett, quarterbacks John Booth and James Kilian, running backs Dee Brown and McKenzki Smith, safety Scott Connot, defensive tackles Arrion Dixon and Montique Sharpe, cornerback Alphonso Hodge, wide receivers Jeris McIntyre and Craphonso Thorpe, defensive ends Clint Mitchell and Zach Ville and tight end Edwin Thompson; terminated the contracts of cornerback Ashley Ambrose and quarterback Jonathan Quinn; placed tackle Brett Williams on the reserve-injured list.

Green Bay Packers Acquired linebacker Robert Thomas from the St. Louis Rams for cornerback Chris Johnson; released quarterback J.T. O'Sullivan, running back Walt Williams, fullback Vonta Leach, wide receivers Craig Bragg, Sam Breeden, Jamal Jones and Andrae Thurman, tight end Sean McHugh, tackles-guards Brad Bedell and Joe Hayes, defensive tackles Cletidus Hunt and James Lee, defensive ends R-Kal Truluck and Seante Williams, linebackers Corey Jenkins, Nick McNeil and Ray Thompson and cornerbacks Chris Day

Denver Broncos Waived guards Tyson Clabo, Chris Watton and Zach Wilson, tackles Anthony Clement and Erik Pears, cornerback Curome Cox, defensive tackles Dorsett Davis and Mario Fatafehi, running backs Quentin Griffin and Brandon Miree, defensive ends Aaron Hunt and Anton Palepoi, safety Jeremy LeSueur, wide receiver Triandos Luke, quarterback Matt Mauck, offensive lineman Chris Myers, center Ben Nowland and linebackers Terry Pierce and Jashon Sykes.

Dallas Cowboys Released running backs Erik Bickerstaff and Keylon Kincade, defensive tackle Leonardo Carson, safeties Rich Coady, Woody Dantzler and Lynn Scott, wide receiver Tom Crowder, tight ends Tony Curtis, Jeff Robinson and Sean Ryan, kicker Nick Novak, linebacker Keith O'Neil, tackle Kurt Vollers and guards-centers Matthew Tarullo and Tyson Walter; placed safety Justin Beriault and linebacker Kalen Thornton on injured reserve; acquired linebacker Scott Fujita from the Kansas City Chiefs for a 2006 sixth

Arizona Cardinals Released tackle Ian Allen, running back Damien Anderson, defensive tackle Tim Bulman, guard Rolando Cantu, kicker Matt Fordyce, tight ends Bobby Blizzard and Aaron Golliday, safeties Jermaine Hardy and Ernest Shazor, wide receivers Carlyle Holiday, Reggie Newhouse and Dan Sheldon, linebackers Isaac Keys and Lester Towns, defensive end Tyler King and cornerbacks Lamonte Reid and Robert Tate.

Chicago Bears Released defensive backs Todd McMillon and Leroy Smith, linebackers LeVar Woods and Derrick Ballard, running backs Zach Abron and Antoineo Harris, tight ends Ron Johnson and Darnell Sanders, defensive ends Shurron Pierson and Greg White, quarterback Ryan Dinwiddie, punter Gabe Lindstrom and offensive lineman A.J. Ricker. Placed wide receiver Eddie Berlin and linebacker Rod Wilson on injured reserve. Placed wide receiver Airese Currie and fullback Jason McKie on the non-football injury list.

wow. Broncos cut Quentin Griffin?

The 2 surprises for the Packers are Hunt & Thompson although, both really should have been cut. Hunt has had zero motivation since signing a large contract several years ago and Thompson really didn't show much in preseason and it was better long term to keep Manning & Poppinga. Little disappointed that they didn't keep Thurman around but, I would expect him to be on someone's rosters as a 5 or 6th receiver... (or if a Packer WR is injured, I'd expect him back).

Whoops. Too late.

Raheem Orr
Not a good day for Rutgers. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif

wow. Broncos cut Quentin Griffin?


Broncos produce running backs the way Italy produces Popes. Well okay, the last two have been an exception, but for the past several centuries before that... :D

In other news, I was sad to see Timmy Chang get cut and yes Whittaker has been kicking ass for the Packers in preseason.

I hope my 'Phins pick up Davey. We need a decent QB to throw to Chambers. Now what I'd *really* love to see is Jovon Bouknight go to the Dolphins in the draft next year. They'd be my favourite pair of receivers since two guys named Clayton and Duper. :D

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/0905/04falcons.html
Sunshine won't be beaming on the Falcons' opening-day roster but seven of eight draft picks and three rookie free agents will following the team's final roster cut Saturday.

Alaskan rookie free-agent wide receiver Cole Magner, nicknamed "Sunshine," was one of 19 players released to get the roster to 53. The long shot from Bowling Green captured the fondness of teammates for his flypaper hands, but he played split end, where Dez White, Brian Finneran and Roddy White have roster spots secured.

Camp invitee Romby Bryant, a second-year player from Tulsa who plays in the slot behind Michael Jenkins, earned the fifth wide-receiver spot.

One-time starting guard Mookie Moore, who re-aggravated a chronically troublesome shoulder in Thursday's preseason finale at Miami, and Atlanta native Khaleed Vaughn, a defensive end, were the biggest-name players to get cut.

The only other positions where there was some uncertainty came in the secondary. Second-year player Etric Pruitt, who had two preseason interceptions, nabbed the fifth safety spot. Rookie free agent Jonte Buhl made the team as a fifth cornerback.

The deepest position is running back, where six players — three fullbacks and three tailbacks — were retained. Former Arena League player Marlion Jackson and rookie tailback DeAndra Cobb, a kickoff return specialist, made the cut while Jason Wright was released.

Rookie free agent Antoine Cash, who started last season at Southern Mississippi opposite fifth-round draft pick Michael Boley at outside linebacker, made the team.

Third-round draft pick Jordan Beck (broken foot) and guard Steve Herndon (neck) were placed on injured reserve and won't play this season.

wow. Broncos cut Quentin Griffin?


Hell, that's one prediction I got right about the Denver running backs. There was little doubt he was going to get cut. He's not fully back from his injury and he's not able to help out with special teams.

Biggest Bronco cut was Terry Peirce. A high round draft pick a couple of years ago, never panned out. (though in his defense, he was picked mainly because the team feared they'd lose Al Wilson and when he was resigned there just wasn't a lot of playing time left for TP)

Broncos keep 2 QB's and 3 kickers. Rice is on the roster, but as a fourth WR. He's going to decide if he wants to continue to play or not. My guess is he won't and that'll be that.

you just might see the dolphins pick up Davey Izulde. It would make sense, the Sabean/Davey relationship was always strong.


edit: dolphins not broncos. silly brain

you just might see the Dolphins pick up Davey Izulde. It would make sense, the Sabean/Davey relationship was always strong.

Yeah I remember that. And he's got to be better than the tripe we have on the roster now.

Oh Danny Boy, where have you gone?

Yet another U-M flameout. I give Braylon 2-3 years before he implodes.

Seriously, U-M is a great football college, but definitely not a good NFL player producer. MSU might be mediocre, but our guys have a lot more NFL tools apparantly.
It's only because so few of the little green men are good enough to make it to the NFL in the 1st place. So little is expected of them, so if one even makes an NFL roster he is viewed as a major success! The only two recent ones I can think of are Tony Banks & Sedrick Irvin. Chuck Rogers could be good if he had a QB that didn't get his shoulder busted every three games or so...

Chuck Rogers could be good if he had a QB that didn't get his shoulder busted every three games or so...
Ok, I know Harrington has his flaws, but WTF?!?! You're now blaming Rogers' shoulder injuries on him? His first shoulder injury came during practice when he got tanlged up with Dre Bly and fell down. His second came in the first game against the Bears. It had nothing to do with the pass, he just his the ground and snap.

What's next? Blaming Harrington for Bailey's knee injury? Garcia's leg?

Give me a break.

Maybe it's my OU homerism, but I have to think Quentin Griffin will get a chance somewhere else. He had fumble and injury problems, but I watched several of his games with Denver, and he can do some good things - at the very least a 3rd down back. I'd be surprised if he stays unemployed long.

Maybe it's my OU homerism, but I have to think Quentin Griffin will get a chance somewhere else. He had fumble and injury problems, but I watched several of his games with Denver, and he can do some good things - at the very least a 3rd down back. I'd be surprised if he stays unemployed long.


He'll get picked back up. He'll also get some major PT somewhere again. Not as a starter, but as a third down back. I doubt that happens this year though. He's still recovering from his injury and just doesn't have that burst right now.

If Jerry Rice decides to retire, does that mean the Broncos will be picking up one of the receivers they have already cut? And was there any chance he was going to be anything more than a 4 WR?

Biggest Seahawks cuts are Terreal Bierria and Jerome Pathon. Could see the Pathon cut coming a mile away after they signed Warrick. Kind of surprised about Bierria.

It's only because so few of the little green men are good enough to make it to the NFL in the 1st place. So little is expected of them, so if one even makes an NFL roster he is viewed as a major success! The only two recent ones I can think of are Tony Banks & Sedrick Irvin. Chuck Rogers could be good if he had a QB that didn't get his shoulder busted every three games or so...

You obviously have a very bad memory, so let me help you:

Derrick Mason - WR
Muhsin Muhammad - WR
Plaxico Burress - WR
Charles Rogers - WR
Chris Baker - TE
T.J. Duckett - RB
Tony Banks - QB
Flozell Adams - OL
Siitupe Peko - C
Robaire Smith - DE
Josh Shaw - DT
Lemar Marshall - LB
Julian Peterson - LB
Ike Reese - LB
Renaldo Hill - CB
Paul Edinger - K
Dave Rayner - K

Now the above listed players are all starters or solid contributors to their teams. There are 7 other players, all young, that I didn't list. They haven't been in the league long enough to contribute yet.

I hope I illuminated you, BJ. :)

And for absolutely no good reason, I give you Jeff Garcia's "O" face:

http://www.detnews.com/pix/2005/09/04/sports/s004-garcia-0905y_09-04-2005_2U89T9D.jpg

Ok, I know Harrington has his flaws, but WTF?!?! You're now blaming Rogers' shoulder injuries on him? His first shoulder injury came during practice when he got tanlged up with Dre Bly and fell down. His second came in the first game against the Bears. It had nothing to do with the pass, he just his the ground and snap.

What's next? Blaming Harrington for Bailey's knee injury? Garcia's leg?

Give me a break.
I know. I'm getting so fucking tired of Harrington being blamed for everything short of Hurricane Katrina. There's plenty of blame to go around on that team, he's just a part of it.

You obviously have a very bad memory, so let me help you:

Derrick Mason - WR
Muhsin Muhammad - WR
Plaxico Burress - WR
Charles Rogers - WR
Chris Baker - TE
T.J. Duckett - RB
Tony Banks - QB
Flozell Adams - OL
Siitupe Peko - C
Robaire Smith - DE
Josh Shaw - DT
Lemar Marshall - LB
Julian Peterson - LB
Ike Reese - LB
Renaldo Hill - CB
Paul Edinger - K
Dave Rayner - K

Now the above listed players are all starters or solid contributors to their teams. There are 7 other players, all young, that I didn't list. They haven't been in the league long enough to contribute yet.

I hope I illuminated you, BJ. :)
2003 NFL OPENING DAY ROSTERS BY SCHOOL

1. Florida 40 Notre Dame 40
3. Florida State 37
4. Miami, Fla. 36 Georgia 36 Tennessee 36
7. Texas A&M 33
8. Michigan 31
9. Ohio State 29
10. Penn State 28 Nebraska 28
12. Southern Cal 27
13. Colorado 26
14. California 25 Auburn 25
16. LSU 24
17. North Carolina 23
18. Kansas State 22 Arizona State 22 Stanford 22 UCLA 22 22. Syracuse 20 West Virginia 20 Illinois 20 Iowa 20 Wisconsin 20 Washington 20 Alabama 20 29. Michigan State 18

I hope I illuminated you, Schmidty. :)

2003 NFL OPENING DAY ROSTERS BY SCHOOL

1. Florida 40 Notre Dame 40
3. Florida State 37
4. Miami, Fla. 36 Georgia 36 Tennessee 36
7. Texas A&M 33
8. Michigan 31
9. Ohio State 29
10. Penn State 28 Nebraska 28
12. Southern Cal 27
13. Colorado 26
14. California 25 Auburn 25
16. LSU 24
17. North Carolina 23
18. Kansas State 22 Arizona State 22 Stanford 22 UCLA 22 22. Syracuse 20 West Virginia 20 Illinois 20 Iowa 20 Wisconsin 20 Washington 20 Alabama 20 29. Michigan State 18

I hope I illuminated you, Schmidty. :)

Would you like me to name how many of those guys are pure poop, or on the practice squad? I guarantee that the amount of MSU starters is close to or more than the amount of U-M starters.

Damnit, now I have to do more research. :)

Dola, the Lions preseason game versus the Bills is on NFL network right now. Are ya watching, HB?

Dola, the Lions preseason game versus the Bills is on NFL network right now. Are ya watching, HB? In fact, I am. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Thanks for the head's up thoug.

In fact, I am. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Thanks for the head's up thoug.

No problem. I love my fellow Lion fans, regardless of past indiscretions. ;)

TOOOOSE!!!

Cowboys release Quincy Morgan.

This is a funny website (found on a Steelers Forum) about one of the Steelers new practice squad players named Chris Samp. Some pretty good stuff. :)

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/mill1991/samp/

Troy F

Gotta admit, I'm getting a little concerned about the Broncos short depth chart at the skill positions. With Griffith and Mo gone...they only have 3 HBs on the roster? With Triandos and Rice gone...do they have enough WRs? And don't even get me started about that 2 QB deal. The Broncs have some old players at those positions...can they weather an injury bug?

Figured you would know better than anyone.

Suprisingly, there is a god


PITTSBURGH — The Steelers added a new player to their receiving corps today when they signed free agent veteran Quincy Morgan to a one-year contract. Financial terms of the deal were not released.

To make room for Morgan on their roster, Pittsburgh released four-year veteran receiver Lee Mays.

Morgan (6-1, 215), a five-year veteran from Kansas State, was originally selected in the second round (33rd overall) of the 2001 NFL Draft by the Cleveland Browns. He played with the Browns for more than three seasons before being traded to the Dallas Cowboys on Oct. 19, 2004, in exchange for wide receiver Antonio Bryant.

In four seasons, Morgan has caught 155 passes for 2,316 yards (14.9 avg.) and 15 touchdowns. He has also returned 11 kickoffs for 267 yards (24.3 avg.). Morgan enjoyed his finest season in 2002 when he set career highs with 56 receptions, 964 receiving yards (17.2 avg.) and seven touchdowns.

Mays, who was originally selected by the Steelers in the sixth round (202nd overall) of the 2002 NFL Draft, had caught 11 passes for 154 yards (14.0 avg.) and returned 36 kickoffs for 750 yards (20.8 avg.) in his three seasons with the team. He missed part of the 2005 preseason with an injured hamstring.<!-- / message -->

Son of a bitch!

It's been a bad summer for former Miners... :(

Son of a bitch!

It's been a bad summer for former Miners... :(
Hey, i wish him luck hooking up with a team. Not mine, however.

Mays had been with the team too long w/o improving.

Ping: Badger fans

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=3353