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QuikSand
09-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Just a quick little exploratory FOF career – here, I plan to follow one simple rule. We will only sign players who are willing to play for a minimum salary contract. No drafting, no bonuses, no negotiating. And no bidding for high quality free agents – my players will all play for the minimum salary allowable for their experience level, or they will go elsewhere.
After an initial draft, and one familiar QuikSim season, we clear out the entire roster, and launch this team from scratch, “empty cupboard” style.
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 12:33 PM
2005 Free Agency
With no players signed at all, this initial period will be our first team skeleton.
For this career, here are the available salaries. I am going to turn off inflation, so these will become very familiar over time:
R:
2: 330
3: 400
4: 490
5-7: 580
8-9: 700
10+: 810
Playing within these limits, I am once again going to try to do the usual “team optimization” routine, and will try to manage the team's intangibles. Specifically, I will try to land a few low-skill veteran players who we can try to build the team around from a chemistry perspective – and we will endeavor to build a strong affinity team from that foundation.
On my first look, it's pretty clear that most anyone of any quality is just not looking to sign for minsal in the early stages -- even semi-decent players are looking for a chance to make a little bit more than that, and won't even listen to my offers. SO, we will probably have to do a lot of our work in the late FA period, after the draft – where we will also be looking to sign a bunch of undrafted rookies to two year minsal deals.
In the early going, I find a sort of “sweet spot” with third year players, for whatever reason, and get a handful of decent guys to sign two year deals with us. So, that's a nice start – especially since we seem to have landed a few guys who can really play at some of the tougher positions. CB Jimmie Parrish is a likely starter, and so are DT Marcus Buckley and LT Mark Knight.
The next soft spot seems to be with older players, many of whom will sign three year deals with us at minsal. So, by the end of the first FA stages, we have a roster up to 15 players, including a pretty high quality pass-catching tight end and a fairly passable sextet along the defensive line.
In fact, at the moment, we have six players on the defensive line, al of whom look passable, and who are led by 12th year DT Ryan Martinez, who is the ideal position leader for us – veteran, high leadership, mentor, and high personality. Regrettably, none of the others have an affinity with him – but my early success here suggests that we won't have too much trouble picking up passable veterans to play at DL. So far, though, we have zero linebackers.
It looks like we have our secondary leader also in hard-hitting 12th year safety J.J. Molenar, though not a mentor, he fits the bill otherwise. Still work to do on the OL and across the offense.
In the late FA stages (after we sit out the draft completely, trading al our picks to Arizona for nothing) we go to work filling out the roster more completely.
We are pretty quickly up to 25 players, including our first two bodies to step in at QB - 5th year Derick Lathon and 16th year Wade Matsui. Neither guy is worth writing home about, not surprisingly, but I think this is going to end up being a pretty run-heavy team anyway. Rookie J.B. Bauer also signs up, and he actually might turn out to be our guy for these two years, who knows?
I go through each position group, grabbing a few guys everywhere, and soon enough, we have a full roster of 65 players, and we are all ready for training camp. I'm not going to follow my players in any detail through camps in this career – I have little choice but to focus on the short run, anyway.
Following training camp, here is the scout's view of our roster:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
##Matsui, Wade 2 QB 16 32 37 3 yrs
##Lathon, Derrick 5 QB 7 29 47 3 yrs
Swift, Christian 19 QB 6 27 50 3 yrs
Bauer, J.B. 15 QB QB 1 22 41 2 yrs
Andersen, Brian 16 QB 1 21 50 2 yrs
Diana, Louie 23 RB RB 3 38 47 2 yrs
Woodson, Quentin 48 RB 13 34 34 3 yrs
Godfrey, Ty 21 RB 3 28 37 2 yrs
McDuffie, William 41 FB FB 10 34 40 2 yrs
Dema, Van 88 TE TE 7 55 55 3 yrs
Witkop, Lance 83 TE 12 38 44 3 yrs
Spivey, Alex 82 TE 6 36 51 3 yrs
Becker, Stanley 86 FL FL 3 35 50 2 yrs
Howe, Howie 87 FL 4 32 38 3 yrs
Tippett, Bill 89 SE SE 10 40 40 3 yrs
##Hudson, Lee 85 SE 3 33 45 2 yrs
Cate, Stanley 81 SE 13 31 31 3 yrs
##Gale, Moe 84 SE 4 25 41 3 yrs
Jackson, Tyrus 80 SE 1 23 40 2 yrs
Sherman, Oliver 56 C C 6 23 48 3 yrs
MacClelland, Aaron 52 C 1 17 32 2 yrs
Longo, Perry 60 LG LG 5 26 40 3 yrs
Harden, Antonio 62 RG RG 1 17 27 2 yrs
Malinowski, Juan 67 RG 1 3 33 2 yrs
Knight, Mark 70 LT LT 3 30 46 2 yrs
Russell, Kendrick 74 RT RT 9 22 36 3 yrs
Dole, Kim 66 RT 8 18 25 3 yrs
Ross, Freddie 8 P 1 43 60 2 yrs
Horton, Jorge 17 K 17 36 36 1 yr.
Pringle, Harold 75 LDE LDE 7 31 43 3 yrs
Gilmore, Wally 79 LDE 4 27 32 3 yrs
McDaniel, Craig 73 RDE RDE 10 32 32 3 yrs
Houston, Rick 91 RDE 6 29 39 3 yrs
##Draft, James 71 RDE 1 23 35 2 yrs
Dougherty, Chester 97 LDT 6 34 38 3 yrs
Martinez, Ryan 78 LDT LDT 12 33 33 3 yrs
##Galloway, Ty 94 LDT 7 32 39 3 yrs
##Buckley, Marcus 76 LDT 3 27 44 2 yrs
##Jeffries, Zack 77 LDT 3 26 42 2 yrs
Davison, Julio 72 RDT RDT 12 35 36 3 yrs
Franz, Doug 96 MLB MLB 10 35 39 3 yrs
Powell, Kennedy 93 MLB 1 11 29 2 yrs
Marincic, Scottie 59 SLB SLB 11 34 40 3 yrs
Bailey, Winfred 54 WLB WLB 8 26 36 3 yrs
Taylor, Ed 95 WLB 5 25 36 3 yrs
Glenn, Troy 26 LCB LCB 8 45 45 3 yrs
Ekernas, Jim 35 LCB 7 37 37 3 yrs
Conway, Jackie 22 LCB 5 31 51 3 yrs
##Ross, Tommy 27 LCB 3 28 50 2 yrs
##Aronovitch, Raymond 32 LCB 3 27 48 2 yrs
Tubbs, Bo 31 RCB RCB 14 33 39 3 yrs
Beattie, Justin 28 RCB 7 31 31 3 yrs
##Parrish, Jimmie 49 RCB 3 27 46 2 yrs
##Raymond, Riddick 30 RCB 1 18 36 2 yrs
##Brooks, Zack 37 RCB 1 18 42 2 yrs
##Humphries, Sammy 45 RCB 1 14 35 2 yrs
Molenaar, J.J. 43 SS SS 12 37 38 3 yrs
Dickson, Jeremy 36 FS FS 6 34 43 3 yrs
Barker, Mickey 33 FS 5 30 41 3 yrs
$$ - player is in starting lineup, ## - player is inactive.
Players Under Contract: 59
Inactive: 14
On Active Roster: 45
Salary Cap: $86,500,000
Cap Room: $18,170,000
Maximum for New Player: $18,410,000
Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $38,440,000
Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0
Cap Room Required Next Year: $32,280,000
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Among the more interesting battles will be at QB, where right now I give the edge to Christian Swift ahead of the rest of the pack. We'll probably cut Matsui, and perhaps go with four. RB Louie Diana was brought in as a kick returner, but I now think he will be our primary ball carrier, even though Woodson has the better focused ratings. The offensive line will be a weak spot, no two ways about it. We have boosted affinity there to try to get some benefit that way, but this is not a talented lot.
Defensively, the LB corps is the weakness, though Doug Franz ought to be okay in the middle – expect big tackle totals. I had expected CB to be a problem – not so at all. We may bring up SS Molenaar to play as our weak-side linebacker, and use a CB in one of the starting safety slots, to best take advantage of our talents.
Into the season we go – no detail here, we'll just lay out the results:
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2005 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 5-11
Winning Pct.: .312
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 491 8 (T)
Rushing Yards 1952 14
Yards Per Carry 3.97 17
Pass Attempts 502 20 (T)
Completions 271 30
Passing Yards 2695 32
Yards Per Attempt 5.36 30
3rd Down Conversions 38.2 29
Points Per Game 16.0 24 (T)
Turnovers 31 27 (T)
Turnover Margin -6 25 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 479 19
Rushing Yards 1908 19
Yards Per Carry 3.98 16
Pass Attempts 527 19
Completions 300 17 (T)
Passing Yards 3564 23
Yards Per Attempt 6.76 19
3rd Down Conversions 38.4 4 (T)
Points Per Game 19.9 22
Turnovers 25 11 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 17 CIN 24
2 26 at MIN 20
3 16 NYJ 24
4 19 TEN 10
5 10 at JAX 12
6 17 at HOU 27
7 17 at BAL 26
8 17 IND 13
9 13 PIT 17
11 6 at CIN 21
12 14 CHI 20
13 3 at OAK 13
14 6 DET 31
15 30 at PIT 21
16 14 at GBY 17
17 31 BAL 23
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
19 Swift QB 493 267 2664 5.40 16 19
**Team --- 502 271 2695 5.36 16 19
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
23 Diana RB 229 929 4.05 5
48 Woodson RB 181 758 4.18 2
41 McDuffie FB 37 120 3.24 0
**Team --- 491 1952 3.97 8
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
86 Becker WR 100 46 519 11.2 78 3
85 Hudson WR 84 43 449 10.4 66 3
87 Howe WR 74 38 447 11.7 58 1
84 Gale WR 64 33 48 6 14.7 111 4
88 Dema TE 43 30 307 10.2 82 2
82 Spivey TE 41 27 251 9.2 67 1
48 Woodson RB 30 19 60 3.1 18 0
**Team --- 498 271 2695 9.9 541 16
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
96 Franz ILB 101 34 0.0 0 3 4
43 Molenaar S 82 37 1.0 0 0 10
59 Marincic OLB 78 31 4.5 4 1 4
36 Dickson S 66 31 0.0 0 1 7
97 Dougherty DT 60 15 2.5 12 0 0
95 Taylor OLB 53 21 0.0 0 1 4
26 Glenn CB 46 16 0.0 0 4 13
22 Conway CB 42 14 1.0 1 1 4
49 Parrish CB 41 11 0.0 1 5 3
75 Pringle DE 36 13 7.5 29 0 0
73 McDaniel DE 33 21 7.0 12 0 1
77 Jeffries DT 26 11 4.0 6 0 0
35 Ekernas CB 25 8 0.0 1 1 1
93 Powell ILB 25 8 0.0 0 0 2
79 Gilmore DE 24 12 4.0 8 0 1
78 Martinez DT 17 8 1.5 5 0 0
33 Barker S 17 0 0.0 0 0 0
**Team --- 858 304 33.0 79 17 57
Okay, so we are basically a little worse than average at everything so far. No surprises – we'll see if things come together with another season with basically the same team next year.
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 12:33 PM
2006 Season
Three retirments – RB Quentin Woodson, CB Bo Woods, and TE Lance Witkop. Woodson and Witkop were position group leaders, so we have some work to do to mend up affinities.
Priority improvement areas are OL, LB, and perhaps RB. But we'll take what we can get, all told.
In the late FA stages, we sign WR Money Clinton to become our new position leader at WR/TE. He is a decent, reserve-quality guy – nothing too special, admittedly. RB Richard Faith becomes our RB position leader – only a 4th year guy, so maybe he can remain in that role for a while with us.
Other significant signings:
LB Carlton Lee probably becomes our starting SLB
S Tyrus Barlow will start at SS, and may be our best DB
QB Mack Marquardt becomes our top backup QB
RB Emmanuel Roberts will battle for playing time
We have been utterly incapable of doing any contract extensions, which makes sense I suppose. Pretty much nobody is willing to accept a guarantee that they won’t make more than minsal in a future year.
2006 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 7-8-1
Winning Pct.: .468
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 510 7
Rushing Yards 1846 16
Yards Per Carry 3.61 29 (T)
Pass Attempts 518 18
Completions 298 18
Passing Yards 3088 30
Yards Per Attempt 5.96 30
3rd Down Conversions 42.3 17 (T)
Points Per Game 17.8 22 (T)
Turnovers 27 22 (T)
Turnover Margin -5 22 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 442 11
Rushing Yards 1603 6
Yards Per Carry 3.62 3
Pass Attempts 547 28
Completions 307 19
Passing Yards 3272 6
Yards Per Attempt 5.98 2
3rd Down Conversions 41.5 17
Points Per Game 17.8 8 (T)
Turnovers 22 18 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 7 at PIT 10
2 28 ATL 9
3 19 at NYJ 17
5 10 DEN 14
6 16 OAK 24
7 14 at SDO 16
8 24 at KCY 26
9 20 at BAL 17
10 14 PIT 14
11 21 CIN 38
12 9 at NOS 6
13 24 IND 17
14 20 CAR 17
15 19 BAL 7
16 20 at TBY 23
17 20 at CIN 31
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
19 Swift QB 517 298 3088 5.97 19 20
**Team --- 518 298 3088 5.96 19 20
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
31 Roberts RB 302 1094 3.62 5
38 Holmes RB 132 473 3.58 5
23 Diana RB 40 197 4.92 0
**Team --- 510 1846 3.61 12
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
31 Roberts RB 98 64 510 7.9 224 2
86 Becker WR 79 46 627 13.6 74 3
87 Howe WR 80 43 560 13.0 80 4
85 Hudson WR 80 43 591 13.7 76 5
38 Holmes RB 37 30 178 5.9 97 0
80 Jackson WR 48 21 281 13.3 20 1
82 Spivey TE 42 20 154 7.7 66 1
**Team --- 517 298 3088 10.3 705 19
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
98 Lee OLB 94 28 5.0 5 0 4
48 Barlow S 83 28 1.5 0 2 16
50 Cotchery ILB 74 28 1.0 2 0 4
36 Dickson S 66 18 1.0 0 2 14
22 Conway CB 52 11 0.0 1 4 10
95 Taylor OLB 50 28 0.0 0 0 3
96 Franz ILB 44 8 0.0 0 0 2
97 Dougherty DT 44 14 0.0 5 0 0
77 Jeffries DT 41 21 0.0 4 0 0
26 Glenn CB 39 13 0.0 1 2 13
49 Parrish CB 35 14 2.0 0 3 18
71 Draft DE 31 20 4.5 19 0 0
75 Pringle DE 26 5 9.5 10 0 0
43 Molenaar S 25 5 0.0 1 0 2
79 Gilmore DE 23 6 5.0 8 0 0
28 Beattie CB 16 3 0.0 0 0 1
59 Marincic OLB 16 3 0.0 0 0 0
**Team --- 850 259 31.0 61 13 87
Suddenly, we are a team all about the defense. Awful on offense, but we ranked 3rd in yards per carry and 2nd in yards per attempt. Wow.
LB Carlton Lee has a great season, and free agent signee Dave Cotchery stepped in at MLB, with Doug Franz still seeing plenty of playing time. But we had five defensive backs put together double-digit passes defensed, and I just did not see that coming at all. Most of these guys are signed for one more season together – we’ll endeavor to get the team up one more notch next season.
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 12:34 PM
2007 season
Going into free agency, most of our veteran players are coming into their final season of an initial three-year deal. Here is the group who are out of contract already:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Ross, Freddie 8 P 3 56 60 ---
Becker, Stanley 86 FL 5 46 49 ---
Parrish, Jimmie 49 RCB 5 42 47 ---
Hudson, Lee 85 SE 5 41 45 ---
Knight, Mark 70 LT 5 41 41 ---
Jeffries, Zack 77 LDT 5 35 43 ---
McDuffie, William 41 FB 12 34 40 ---
Jackson, Tyrus 80 SE 3 34 46 ---
Ross, Tommy 27 LCB 5 31 49 ---
Summers, Roger 89 TE 10 29 29 ---
Draft, James 71 RDE 3 29 37 ---
Mathes, Cedric 47 FB 4 22 36 ---
Bauer, J.B. 15 QB 3 22 31 ---
Andersen, Brian 16 QB 3 21 48 ---
Harden, Antonio 62 RG 3 21 26 ---
Buckley, Marcus 76 LDT 5 20 34 ---
MacClelland, Aaron 52 C 3 20 30 ---
Diana, Louie 23 RB 5 17 21 ---
Powell, Kennedy 93 MLB 3 14 29 ---
WR Stanley Becker has been our most reliable receiver with lee Hudson as our other regular starter, CB Jimmie Parrish has been very solid at CB, and Mark Knight has been okay for us at left tackle. But, all these guys look good enough o be asking for some real money, so unless we get really lucky and watch them sit idly by unclaimed through all of free agency, I don’t expect they’ll be up for a minsal renewal with us.
Now, I have some guys who can play at CB, but WR is going to be a top priority for replacement players this year. Our passing game has been weak enough as is, without depleting our best targets.
WR Lee Hudson is signed first, but he is the only one who gets a new deal in the first 16 weeks of free agency.
Notable FA signings:
C Josh Northrop – solid run blocker, may become our starter at C
LT Dwayne Bryja – possible starter, but decent balanced lineman
DE Bernie Oltmanns – decent balanced DE, solid reserve guy
FB Danny McInnis – probable starter for us, though weak run blocker
WR Dallas Gaylor – decent talent, best option affordable
WR Earl Winslett – missed the cut two seasons ago, but is decent
TE Glenn Ellison – solid young player, mixed skills
RB Bert Robinson – potentially big signing, solid starting RB
LB Kenny Galloway – solid player, possible starter
LB Dave Fisher – solid run stopper, possible starter at WLB
QB Lamar Haygood – reserve guy, long term possible starter
I have been begging to land LB Heath Hamilton – he’d be a new position leader, and is a very good player… please let him drop his demand just every so slightly and accept my puny offer. No dice.
Same goes for WR Stanley Becker – he wants just a shade more than minsal, and I can’t get him to accept my bids of any length. Frustratingly close, though.
Veteran Holdouts:
S Tyrus Barlow, LB Carlton Lee – neither is a surprise.
(I’m guessing this will be an annual feature of this challenge)
After camp, S Barlow ends his holdout, but Lee continues. It looks like FA signee Kenny Galloway is likely to step in to start for us at the SLB slot in Lee’s absence.
As we head into the season – here is the full roster:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Swift, Christian 19 QB QB 8 46 51 1 yr.
Haygood, Lamar 2 QB 8 36 42 3 yrs
Marquardt, Mack 13 QB 7 34 59 2 yrs
##Bauer, J.B. 15 QB 3 23 33 1 yr.
Robinson, Bert 37 RB RB 8 54 57 3 yrs
Roberts, Emmanuel 31 RB 12 37 43 2 yrs
Holmes, Shane 38 RB 6 35 37 2 yrs
##Faith, Richard 40 RB 5 25 34 2 yrs
McInnis, Danny 46 FB FB 9 45 45 3 yrs
##Zimmerman, Brant 34 FB 7 30 37 2 yrs
Dema, Van 88 TE TE 9 52 52 1 yr.
Ellison, Glenn 83 TE 9 46 62 3 yrs
##Spivey, Alex 82 TE 8 40 43 1 yr.
Howe, Howie 87 FL FL 6 41 41 1 yr.
Gaylor, Dallas 6 FL 3 37 44 2 yrs
##McGregor, Les 17 FL 10 33 39 3 yrs
Winslett, Earl 85 FL 7 32 40 3 yrs
Jackson, Tyrus 80 SE SE 3 36 46 2 yrs
Gale, Moe 84 SE 6 32 42 1 yr.
##Clinton, Money 81 SE 7 21 21 2 yrs
Sherman, Oliver 56 C 8 39 49 1 yr.
Northrop, Josh 57 C C 4 39 50 3 yrs
##MacClelland, Aaron 52 C 3 21 30 2 yrs
Longo, Perry 60 LG LG 7 43 48 1 yr.
Drake, Dale 63 RG RG 7 31 39 2 yrs
Bryja, Dwayne 67 LT LT 5 34 38 3 yrs
Wilkins, Earl 65 RT RT 4 31 46 2 yrs
Russell, Kendrick 74 RT 11 29 35 1 yr.
##Dole, Kim 66 RT 10 16 20 1 yr.
Welch, Nick 10 P 2 66 84 1 yr.
Flood, Jeremy 4 K 2 48 50 1 yr.
Pringle, Harold 75 LDE LDE 9 32 39 1 yr.
Gilmore, Wally 79 LDE 6 32 32 1 yr.
Oltmanns, Bernie 72 RDE RDE 10 36 36 3 yrs
McDaniel, Craig 73 RDE 12 27 27 1 yr.
Dougherty, Chester 97 LDT LDT 8 34 38 1 yr.
Gillespie, Harvey 99 LDT 7 25 30 2 yrs
##Galloway, Ty 94 LDT 9 16 18 1 yr.
Martinez, Ryan 78 RDT RDT 14 23 23 1 yr.
Cotchery, Dave 50 MLB MLB 11 36 37 2 yrs
Franz, Doug 96 MLB 12 32 35 1 yr.
Donald, Rickey 92 MLB 5 22 42 2 yrs
Lee, Carlton 98 SLB 8 50 50 2 yrs
Galloway, Kenny 59 SLB SLB 8 47 47 3 yrs
Fisher, Dave 91 WLB WLB 4 45 50 3 yrs
Taylor, Ed 95 WLB 7 36 37 1 yr.
Bailey, Winfred 54 WLB 10 27 31 1 yr.
Conway, Jackie 22 LCB LCB 7 43 51 1 yr.
Ekernas, Jim 35 LCB 9 37 37 1 yr.
Ross, Tommy 27 LCB 5 33 49 3 yrs
Glenn, Troy 26 RCB RCB 10 43 43 1 yr.
Beattie, Justin 28 RCB 9 32 32 1 yr.
Barlow, Tyrus 48 SS 9 45 45 2 yrs
Molenaar, J.J. 43 SS SS 14 33 35 1 yr.
Dickson, Jeremy 36 FS FS 8 45 45 1 yr.
##Barker, Mickey 33 FS 7 26 37 1 yr.
And in our third season –we will hope to break the .500 plane for the first time, before we start to break up this original team too much:
2007 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 7-9
Winning Pct.: .437
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 479 11
Rushing Yards 1849 17
Yards Per Carry 3.86 22 (T)
Pass Attempts 496 27 (T)
Completions 276 29
Passing Yards 3338 26
Yards Per Attempt 6.72 17
3rd Down Conversions 44.2 9 (T)
Points Per Game 18.8 21
Turnovers 24 19 (T)
Turnover Margin -9 28 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 468 15
Rushing Yards 1915 19
Yards Per Carry 4.09 18
Pass Attempts 508 12
Completions 300 12 (T)
Passing Yards 3490 13
Yards Per Attempt 6.87 14
3rd Down Conversions 40.6 10
Points Per Game 19.4 16
Turnovers 15 31 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 24 at BAL 31
2 14 at SFO 19
3 13 DEN 21
4 17 at BUF 24
5 23 PIT 14
6 21 MIA 17
7 14 NYJ 13
8 13 at NED 19
9 31 BAL 8
11 16 at CIN 29
12 20 at STL 17
13 13 at IND 19
14 20 SEA 26
15 14 CIN 24
16 23 ARI 17
17 26 at PIT 13
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
19 Swift QB 496 276 3338 6.72 24 15
**Team --- 496 276 3338 6.72 24 15
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
37 Robinson RB 263 1106 4.20 5
31 Roberts RB 148 499 3.37 4
46 McInnis FB 40 129 3.22 1
**Team --- 479 1849 3.86 10
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
80 Jackson WR 94 49 656 13.3 70 4
87 Howe WR 63 35 498 14.2 58 0
6 Gaylor WR 63 35 448 12.8 38 1
37 Robinson RB 60 33 316 9.5 153 5
46 McInnis FB 54 32 217 6.7 108 1
84 Gale WR 58 28 460 16.4 45 5
83 Ellison TE 36 21 221 10.5 43 4
31 Roberts RB 28 16 102 6.3 62 1
**Team --- 495 276 3338 12.0 648 24
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
50 Cotchery ILB 86 26 2.0 0 1 5
98 Lee OLB 85 29 3.0 3 1 9
91 Fisher OLB 69 20 2.0 1 1 6
48 Barlow S 66 18 0.5 1 1 12
36 Dickson S 63 24 1.0 0 2 15
22 Conway CB 53 16 0.0 0 3 5
43 Molenaar S 45 8 1.0 0 0 4
97 Dougherty DT 41 11 3.5 4 0 1
28 Beattie CB 35 10 0.0 0 0 3
26 Glenn CB 32 15 0.0 0 1 3
78 Martinez DT 30 12 2.5 5 0 0
35 Ekernas CB 29 15 1.0 0 0 9
96 Franz ILB 26 14 1.5 0 0 0
72 Oltmanns DE 25 18 6.5 13 0 0
75 Pringle DE 24 8 6.0 9 0 0
95 Taylor OLB 22 6 0.0 0 0 1
73 McDaniel DE 20 5 4.5 5 0 0
79 Gilmore DE 17 8 3.0 18 0 0
**Team --- 857 268 40.0 61 10 74
Well, an 0-4 start pretty well wiped out our hope of finishing with nine wins – but from that point on we were actually 7-5, so it’s not a total loss.
Our stats only barely resemble those from last season – where is that almighty defense?
On offense, Robinson at RB is a nice step up, and he is a more complete back than we have had previously. Swift was effective – but not prolific – in the passing game. We have Tyrus Jackson signed for one more season, and he might turn out to be our best receiving asset for next season.
But the losses will be huge – little doubt that QB Swift will be gone, as will probably 15-20 other meaningful players for us. Some will probably eventually re-sign, but many are bound to be like my guys from last year – just a little bit too good to accept a minsal deal any more, and therefore just barely out of our reach.
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 12:35 PM
2008 season
Okay, now we have our challenges ahead – we have a legion of veteran players out of contract, and most will be unwilling to re-sign with us, I expect. So, we will lose cohesion, and possibly overall talent as well.
Here’s the universe of the unsigned:
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Swift, Christian 19 QB 9 46 51 ---
Bauer, J.B. 15 QB 4 23 32 ---
Dema, Van 88 TE 10 53 53 ---
Spivey, Alex 82 TE 9 39 43 ---
Howe, Howie 87 FL 7 41 41 ---
Gale, Moe 84 SE 7 35 42 ---
Sherman, Oliver 56 C 9 42 49 ---
Longo, Perry 60 LG 8 47 48 ---
Russell, Kendrick 74 RT 12 29 34 ---
Dole, Kim 66 RT 11 16 20 ---
Welch, Nick 10 P 3 75 83 ---
Flood, Jeremy 4 K 3 51 51 ---
Gilmore, Wally 79 LDE 7 33 33 ---
Pringle, Harold 75 LDE 10 32 39 ---
McDaniel, Craig 73 RDE 13 27 27 ---
Dougherty, Chester 97 LDT 9 34 38 ---
Galloway, Ty 94 LDT 10 15 17 ---
Martinez, Ryan 78 RDT 15 23 23 ---
Franz, Doug 96 MLB 13 32 35 ---
Taylor, Ed 95 WLB 8 37 38 ---
Bailey, Winfred 54 WLB 11 27 31 ---
Conway, Jackie 22 LCB 8 43 51 ---
Ekernas, Jim 35 LCB 10 37 37 ---
Glenn, Troy 26 RCB 11 43 43 ---
Beattie, Justin 28 RCB 10 33 33 ---
Molenaar, J.J. 43 SS 15 33 35 ---
Dickson, Jeremy 36 FS 9 46 46 ---
Barker, Mickey 33 FS 8 26 36 ---
So, obviously losing QB Swift will be a big deal, but it seems inevitable to me. Even I he goes unclaimed, he still likely won’t consider a new minsal deal. So, I expect Marquardt and Haygood to be our prime combatants for the starting job this season, unless we land a free agent who moves past them both.
The secondary is likely to be completely ravaged. Form the initial demands, my guess is that Tyros Barlow might be our only returning player – possibly joined by safety Mickey barker, who has played in three games in three seasons. This could be very, very bleak.
PLAYER RESIGNINGS
DE Craig McDaniel
K Jeremy Flood
TE Alex Spivey
LB Ed Taylor
S Mickey Barker
LB Doug Franz
DT Ryan Martinez
WR Moe Gale
CB Justin Beattie
NEW FREE AGENTS SIGNED
DE Thurman Donaldson – 3rd year, solid, pretty good in run defense
CB Mo Stone – 3rd year guy, modest skills, reserve or last resort
CB Dennis Wohlabaugh – same story, decent enough to be reserve
DE Benjamin Hazuga – 3rd year guy, some complementary skills, looks okay
T Billy Joe Shea, T Nate Folse – both decent run blocking RTs
CB Tommy Ross – old friend, return skills, decent cover man
CB Ian Norton – versatile cover man, possible starter at CB for us
S Winfred Arbuckle – solid veteran, good fit for our secondary
LB Thurman Butler – run stopping standout, solid fit for us
LB Blaine Witt – versatile linebacker, should make the team
G George Gotchy – rookie, looks promising as interior run blocker
C Randy Cobb – solid pass-blocking center, too good to pass up
DE Ron Doyle – probable starter, solid skills, balanced
RB Jeremy Tomczak – void in hole rec his only demerit – solid
VETERAN HOLDOUTS
LB Dave Cotchery – Slightly better than the recently re-signed Dave Franz, so we already have a contingency play in place for his absence
My starting center and left guard are gone to richer contracts, so we have to add the OL to the list of crisis areas. I land two free agent tackles switch one to become a right guard, and we at least have a passable group of starters. Would be better to land one more guy later on, though.
At week five of the late FA stages, QB Christian Swift is finally getting an offer – but I know he won’t listen to my minsal deals anyway. He signs his offer with Philadelphia, officially closing his chapter with us. At this point, we need to fill in with the best we can get – I have 46 players on hand right now.
Another problem is the offensive line – right now, we have a massive affinity structure built all around RT Kendrick Russell, but now Russell looks like he may not be willing to re-sign with us. Russell may be lousy enough to slip through camp and be re-signable afterwards, but that’s quite a risk to take.
We do land one standout free agent, in LB Lance Ringrose. Nominally a strong-side linebacker, I see in him potential as a great pass rusher. SS Rusty Back is another good fit, and comes aboard in the final stages after finally dropping his demands to our level.
We head into training camp, hoping to find a couple of our current position leaders still available on the other side, especially RT Kendrick Russell.
AFTER-CAMP SIGNINGS
The good news is that T Russell does not get signed. The bad news is that he still isn’t open to a minsal deal, so I’m stuck. That elevates new signee Billy Joe Shea to a leadership role, where we’d have three affinities and one conflict. I take a moment to work on this, but come up with nothing. Big loss.
Also, it’s very frustrating to see CB Troy Glenn, a three year standout with us, still sitting unclaimed as a free agent, but asking for a $50,000 bonus that we can’t give him. Same situation applies to S Jeremy Dickson (over $50K) and CB Jim Ekernas (over $20K). So, we lose a lot of affinity and cohesion at CB also, and have massive DB turnover as expected.
I think our talent level is about where it has been, but this turnover is probably going to set us back a lot this year.
Mack Marquardt gets the starting nod at QB, and there ought to be a battle between Bert Robinson and new face Jeremy Tomczak for the bulk of the carries from the RB slot. Lance Ringrose will probably step right in and take over at MLB, making Dave Cotchery’s holdout that much more irrelevant. The secondary – we’ll just do what we can there, as we have a whole new wave of guys to trot out there this year.
I’m shifting to a 3-4 front this year after a little thought, so that makes things a bit different. I just think our overall talent at LB has passed that at DL, so we’ll shift to where we are deepest.
Here is the roster review at the start of the season:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Marquardt, Mack 13 QB QB 8 38 59 1 yr.
Haygood, Lamar 2 QB 9 33 35 2 yrs
Bauer, J.B. 15 QB 4 26 33 1 yr.
Robinson, Bert 37 RB RB 9 50 52 2 yrs
Tomczak, Jeremy 30 RB 8 38 42 3 yrs
Roberts, Emmanuel 31 RB 13 34 40 1 yr.
##Faith, Richard 40 RB 6 26 34 1 yr.
McInnis, Danny 46 FB FB 10 40 40 2 yrs
Zimmerman, Brant 34 FB 8 27 30 1 yr.
Ellison, Glenn 83 TE TE 10 51 58 2 yrs
Spivey, Alex 82 TE 9 32 36 3 yrs
Gaylor, Dallas 6 FL FL 4 47 47 1 yr.
Winslett, Earl 85 FL 8 34 40 2 yrs
Jackson, Tyrus 80 SE SE 4 48 48 1 yr.
Gale, Moe 84 SE 7 38 42 3 yrs
##Clinton, Money 81 SE 8 17 17 1 yr.
Northrop, Josh 57 C RG 5 37 44 2 yrs
Neff, Lance 56 C C 3 36 53 3 yrs
Cobb, Andy 53 C 4 31 50 3 yrs
##MacClelland, Aaron 52 C 4 22 30 1 yr.
Drake, Dale 63 LG LG 8 41 41 1 yr.
Shea, Billy Joe 64 RG 5 17 43 3 yrs
Bryja, Dwayne 67 LT LT 6 40 40 2 yrs
Wilkins, Earl 65 RT RT 5 42 46 1 yr.
Folse, Nate 69 RT 5 29 37 3 yrs
Emerson, Devin 9 P 1 38 55 2 yrs
Flood, Jeremy 4 K 3 54 54 1 yr.
Hazuga, Benjamin 93 LDE LDE 3 38 48 3 yrs
Oltmanns, Bernie 72 RDE 11 34 34 2 yrs
Donaldson, Thurman 76 RDE NT 3 32 51 3 yrs
Doyle, Ron 71 RDE RDE 7 31 45 3 yrs
##McDaniel, Craig 73 RDE 13 23 23 3 yrs
Gillespie, Harvey 99 LDT 8 26 31 1 yr.
Martinez, Ryan 78 RDT 15 19 19 3 yrs
Cotchery, Dave 50 MLB 12 33 33 1 yr.
Franz, Doug 96 MLB 13 26 29 3 yrs
Donald, Rickey 92 MLB 6 25 42 1 yr.
Ringrose, Lance 51 SLB WILB 9 61 61 3 yrs
Galloway, Kenny 59 SLB 9 48 48 2 yrs
Lee, Carlton 98 SLB SLB 9 43 48 1 yr.
Witt, Blaine 58 SLB 5 42 50 3 yrs
Fisher, Dave 91 WLB WLB 5 52 52 2 yrs
##Taylor, Ed 95 WLB 8 38 38 3 yrs
Butler, Thurman 55 WLB SILB 10 34 37 3 yrs
Norton, Ian 39 LCB LCB 6 42 53 3 yrs
Ross, Tommy 23 LCB 6 38 49 3 yrs
##Stone, Mo 21 LCB 3 26 42 2 yrs
Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 3 32 32 2 yrs
Beattie, Justin 28 RCB 10 25 25 3 yrs
Barlow, Tyrus 48 SS RCB 10 42 43 1 yr.
Back, Rusty 47 SS SS 3 42 51 3 yrs
Arbuckle, Winfred 32 FS FS 6 42 44 3 yrs
##Barker, Mickey 33 FS 8 21 28 3 yrs
Our roster rating is 2 out of 100, a distant last in the whole league. That is not really a surprise, though.
In the season, we get to 5-3 and it looks like we have put it together a bit – but then we lose four straight and it all slips away. Sitting at 6-7, you just can’t afford to lose one more game by one point, but we do, and our hopes of a winning season are gone. Two final wing get us to .500 for the year, but we miss the playoffs and are again unable to break in for that the ninth win.
Front Office Football 2004
2008 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 8-8
Winning Pct.: .500
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 488 11
Rushing Yards 1949 11
Yards Per Carry 3.99 19 (T)
Pass Attempts 519 22
Completions 305 21
Passing Yards 3367 24
Yards Per Attempt 6.48 24
3rd Down Conversions 47.1 8
Points Per Game 20.9 13 (T)
Turnovers 26 21
Turnover Margin -4 21
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 424 8
Rushing Yards 1740 13
Yards Per Carry 4.10 18
Pass Attempts 534 21 (T)
Completions 288 2
Passing Yards 3383 5
Yards Per Attempt 6.33 3
3rd Down Conversions 41.2 8
Points Per Game 19.5 12
Turnovers 22 15 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 17 CIN 24
2 13 at WAS 10
3 10 DEN 17
4 31 TEN 28
5 28 at JAX 40
6 24 at HOU 21
7 20 BAL 13
8 23 IND 7
9 16 at PIT 17
11 19 at CIN 24
12 14 at PHI 27
13 24 at MIA 37
14 16 NYG 3
15 30 PIT 31
16 34 DAL 10
17 16 at BAL 3
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
13 Marquardt QB 519 305 3367 6.48 19 21
**Team --- 519 305 3367 6.48 19 21
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
37 Robinson RB 216 842 3.89 7
30 Tomczak RB 120 462 3.85 4
31 Roberts RB 85 302 3.55 2
13 Marquardt QB 39 235 6.02 4
**Team --- 488 1949 3.99 17
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
30 Tomczak RB 81 53 548 10.3 130 3
6 Gaylor WR 93 50 744 14.8 41 4
31 Roberts RB 53 38 376 9.8 100 3
84 Gale WR 90 37 607 16.4 127 3
46 McInnis FB 47 33 282 8.5 83 0
37 Robinson RB 47 32 207 6.4 55 2
83 Ellison TE 52 29 235 8.1 22 2
**Team --- 519 305 3367 11.0 596 19
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
98 Lee OLB 78 18 11.0 6 3 9
91 Fisher OLB 75 20 1.0 1 2 3
55 Butler OLB 68 18 0.0 1 0 4
47 Back S 60 15 0.0 3 1 9
51 Ringrose OLB 55 14 1.0 0 0 5
32 Arbuckle S 47 25 0.0 1 2 15
71 Doyle DE 43 15 9.0 21 0 0
48 Barlow S 41 18 0.0 0 1 8
39 Norton CB 39 12 1.0 1 3 12
50 Cotchery ILB 37 14 0.0 0 0 3
76 Donaldson DE 33 18 2.5 10 0 0
45 Wohlabaugh CB 31 7 1.0 0 1 6
59 Galloway OLB 30 4 0.0 2 0 1
93 Hazuga DE 28 16 8.0 17 0 1
96 Franz ILB 26 10 2.0 1 0 2
28 Beattie CB 16 7 0.0 0 0 2
**Team --- 787 245 37.0 67 13 86
So, I was horrified about the pass defense and the secondary, and it turns out that is the team’s strong suit this year. Great. Carlton lee had a superb season as our strong-side pass rushing linebacker, while Ron Doyle turned out to be a great find at DE for us. Suddenl;y, the defense looks pretty stable.
Offensively, a decent season from Marquardt, but he’s likely gone now, so he gets no real chance to settle in. Robinson and Tomczak sort of split time, with Tomczak used as a utility guy and slot receiver – he (like Robinson) tops 1,000 total yards despite missing two games with an injury. Dallas Gaylor quietly became a top target for us, and was playing well with Moe Gale until Gale got hurt later in the season.
So, it’s another decent season, but at least not a big backslide. Is this team capable of making a big step forward? The defensive front might be the best we have had, and if the offense can come together behind a new QB, we might have a shot to get something done in the year or two ahead.
MacroGuru
09-21-2005, 12:51 PM
Very interesting read and challange, I like the idea
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 01:12 PM
Well, I don't expect the 'read" to get all that fascinating, as I never had any real intention of doing much with this, and am not really motivated to detail each and every move too much.
But I, too, like the concept -- and the level of challenge does seem pretty high, which is good.
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 01:13 PM
DE Terrance Schwab
CB Bryce Molnar – possible starter, great cover man
LB Tim Van Brocklin – solid player, starter quality
LB Arnie Duncan – pass rusher, start at DE probably
C Graham Taninecz – nice undrafted rookie
QB Marc Guilbeaux
QB Rob Fitzgerald
FB Lincoln Flake
TE Sherman Hillman – looks like a great player
DT Drew Nevers – looks like solid DE pass rusher
LB Emmett Binnette
LB Cory Moland
QB Phil Lesch
K Trent Poole
So, Jonathan Schulz signs a three year deal, and rockets to the top of our QB depth chart. Sixth year guy, very little experience thus far. Some good ratings in third down passing and a few pass ranges – but this isn’t a guy I’m thrilled about being our starter. Might end up being the best we can get, though.
Mack Marquardt is no longer asking for a $14m bonus, but he’s still way out of our price range.
On nice twist is that LB Carlton Lee has dropped his big money demands, and now listens to our offer for a new deal. His ratings are sliding, but he had a really good season for us last year, and deserves to stick around – a three year deal will give him that chance.
A late addition to our multi-headed QB monster is Phil Lesch – has a void in screen passing, but has some other decent skills, knows lots of formations, and is very smart. A 12th year guy, he has a career passer rating of 70.2 in 449 attempts – he might now be our most likely starter.
After training camp, we reach out to LB Dave Cotchery, who just wouldn’t budge in the FA period. He’s still available, but seems to believe that he is still worth a couple hundred thousand dollars more than I can offer him – so we’re screwed. We head into the season with only five affinities with new position leader DT Warren Coughlin.
We have five guys at QB, none of whom inspire much confidence. My scout actually likes Lamar Haygood the best, but not by much. I think Phil Lesch gets the first shot at starting, and rookie Marc Guilbeaux might be #2 on my list of options.
At the end of preseason, we manage to work things out with LB Dave Cotchery, who finally agrees to our contract offer. So, we work out our affinity situation with the front seven after all. And we head into the season with rookie QB Marc Guilbeaux as our starter, with Lesch out for a few weeks with an injury.
Guilbeaux gets us to 2-1 in this time, and then we fall apart with Lesch under center. At 3-4, the season is in the balance – so we have to decide who gives us the better chance to succeed now and down the line. We make the switch, and go with the rookie Guilbeaux.
Two losses under Guilbeaux now has all but wiped out this season, as we stand at 3-6. Our passing game is a disgrace, though other aspects of the team’s performance aren’t that bad. Guilbeaux throws four TDs to lead us to a win over Cinti, and that seals the deal. It turns out the team just falls apart from that point on, and we end the season at a miserable 4-12.
Front Office Football 2004
2009 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 4-12
Winning Pct.: .250
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 472 13
Rushing Yards 1841 18
Yards Per Carry 3.90 20
Pass Attempts 497 27
Completions 262 31 (T)
Passing Yards 2879 30
Yards Per Attempt 5.79 29
3rd Down Conversions 36.9 24
Points Per Game 14.3 27 (T)
Turnovers 27 19
Turnover Margin -4 22 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 481 24
Rushing Yards 1766 13
Yards Per Carry 3.67 4
Pass Attempts 540 20
Completions 318 28
Passing Yards 3493 18
Yards Per Attempt 6.46 13
3rd Down Conversions 41.2 16
Points Per Game 21.3 22 (T)
Turnovers 23 21 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 17 at PIT 20
2 17 MIN 7
3 17 at HOU 10
5 23 DEN 24
6 6 OAK 31
7 10 at SDO 35
8 15 at KCY 9
9 0 BAL 16
10 20 PIT 24
11 27 CIN 13
12 14 at CHI 20
13 27 NYJ 33
14 3 at DET 20
15 6 at BAL 35
16 7 GBY 17
17 20 at CIN 28
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
7 Guilbeaux QB 379 209 2316 6.11 14 17
14 Lesch QB 118 53 563 4.77 2 3
**Team --- 497 262 2879 5.79 16 20
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
37 Robinson RB 225 904 4.01 0
30 Tomczak RB 162 572 3.53 2
**Team --- 472 1841 3.90 6
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
80 Hillman TE 80 56 607 10.8 98 3
84 Gale WR 96 38 526 13.8 67 2
30 Tomczak RB 68 36 297 8.2 71 2
37 Robinson RB 51 31 218 7.0 95 3
88 Drake WR 63 29 474 16.3 40 3
86 Berry WR 56 27 353 13.0 21 1
38 Flake FB 30 18 91 5.0 20 2
**Team --- 495 262 2879 10.9 462 16
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
91 Fisher OLB 102 37 1.5 2 1 5
90 Van Brocklin OLB 97 23 1.0 6 1 10
51 Ringrose OLB 76 34 0.0 0 0 7
32 Arbuckle S 76 34 0.0 1 2 16
47 Back S 73 29 1.0 0 5 16
71 Doyle DE 50 13 9.0 15 0 0
76 Donaldson DE 46 15 2.0 9 0 0
39 Norton CB 39 16 0.5 0 2 6
31 Molnar CB 38 10 0.0 1 1 8
59 Galloway OLB 37 14 1.0 1 0 5
23 Ross CB 31 11 0.0 1 0 3
70 Nevers DT 25 10 9.5 13 0 0
94 Duncan OLB 20 10 0.5 2 0 3
98 Lee OLB 18 13 1.0 1 0 5
55 Butler OLB 17 7 0.0 1 0 0
45 Wohlabaugh CB 17 4 0.5 2 0 2
**Team --- 857 298 30.0 60 12 86
This team really needs one more quality cornerback, and our defensive personnel would actually be pretty solid. As it stands, we ended up above average in both run and pass defense, which isn’t all bad. Not dominant, and we don’t get great pass pressure or cause a lot of turnovers, but we are playing pretty decent defense overall.
On offense – shaky. RBs Robinson and Tomczak again were a main part of the offense, with TE Hillman becoming our top target in the absence of any legitimate WR threats. With a slightly more effective QB, this offense might have been average – as it was, we weren’t even very close. Little doubt in my mind that going forward, we really need to add at least one impact player on offense to get things going – and Robinson is out of contract next year, so we start out moving in the wrong direction already.
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 01:14 PM
2010 season
So… I re-hire my scout, but will be looking to replace him soon, I think. I‘m not focusing much on the front office staff, but we will try to do better there when we can.
LB Thurman Butler has retired – decent player, but we can afford to lose some talent at LB, it’s becoming our strongest position overall.
Players up for new contracts (likely departures):
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Haygood, Lamar 2 QB 11 36 36 ---
Robinson, Bert 37 RB 11 45 47 ---
**Ellison, Glenn 83 TE 12 47 55 ---
Winslett, Earl 85 FL 10 34 40 ---
Northrop, Josh 57 C 7 44 44 ---
Monroe, Herb 74 LG 5 32 40 ---
Bryja, Dwayne 67 LT 8 40 40 ---
Emerson, Devin 9 P 3 46 46 ---
Cotchery, Dave 99 MLB 14 30 31 ---
Galloway, Kenny 59 SLB 11 44 44 ---
Fisher, Dave 91 WLB 7 52 52 ---
Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 5 31 31 ---
This crop won’t kill us, though our OL is probably in for a big shift – it’s been hard to find playable left tackles, and while Bryja wasn’t great, he was competent. Losing starters Northrop and Monroe also will hurt – that’s the biggest problem here, I suspect. My initial look suggests that we can probably re-sign CB Wohlabaugh from that lot, but we might not be able to lure back anyone else.
PLAYERS RE-SIGNED
CB Dennis Wohlabaugh
FREE AGENT SIGNINGS
C Lorenzo Patten
LT Percy Hampton – 3rd year player, likely starter
LT Don Branch
WR Dallas Gaylor – former Brown, solid player, likely FL starter
S Nick Monpoto
RB Marcus Sanders – straight-ahead rusher, might be solid
P Julio Chung
QB Tommy Maumau
RB Leland Poole
RB Perry Harvey
RB Glenn Moll
RB Danny McInnis – possible position leader (backup plan)
TE Kendall Preston
TE Chad Worth
WR Lance Small
G Lamont Lane
DE Irving Herndon
LB Chuck Patterson
LB Daryl Qaderi
S Tom Herrington
VETERAN HOLDLOUTS
none
Three early signings of young players (3rd year guys seem to be a “sweet spot” for us in this career – they are the most reliable guys we can sign in the early stages of free agency) give us needed relief on the offensive line.
I once again sense that we are going to be a mess in our D& affinity situation, as Dave Cotchery is not happy about our contract offers, and he’s the centerpiece of the whole structure there. I can’t find a suitable replacement to become position leader, so we may have to do the same stunt as last year – just wait him out.
In late free agency, in the final stages, it’s once again time for fill-in players. We sometimes find a few decent guys who slip down to the minsal level here – so we will be hunting.
We end up signing a gaggle of running backs – and will have options ahead there. Bert Robinson won’t re-sign, so we will have to rebuild our affinity situation there, too. Bt we may carry three or four usable backs this year, anticipating Tomczak’s departure after the season anyway.
After training camp, I check out our affinity situation. On the D7, around DT Warren Coughlin, we have six affinities. I think I need to let go of un-cooperative (and aging) LB Cotchery, and just move on. At the RB Group, our new leader is Earl Waite, and we have three immediate affinities with him – that will do fine.
Heading into the season, here is the new roster:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Lesch, Phil 14 QB 13 39 50 2 yrs
Guilbeaux, Marc 7 QB QB 2 35 41 1 yr.
Schulz, Jonathan 19 QB 7 33 44 2 yrs
Maumau, Tommy 5 QB 5 25 44 3 yrs
Harvey, Perry 20 RB 8 47 47 3 yrs
Poole, Leland 34 RB RB 10 45 51 3 yrs
##Waite, Earl 35 RB 7 36 39 2 yrs
Tomczak, Jeremy 30 RB 10 33 37 1 yr.
Flake, Lincoln 38 FB FB 5 42 46 2 yrs
Hillman, Sherman 80 TE TE 7 66 71 2 yrs
Preston, Kendall 85 TE 14 38 42 3 yrs
##Wynn, Dexter 87 TE 1 23 42 2 yrs
Gaylor, Dallas 89 FL FL 6 45 45 3 yrs
Small, Lance 13 FL 6 42 47 3 yrs
##Drake, Butch 88 FL 8 34 37 2 yrs
Gale, Moe 84 SE SE 9 42 42 1 yr.
Berry, Dennis 86 SE 7 40 42 2 yrs
##Clinton, Money 81 SE 10 16 16 2 yrs
Cobb, Andy 53 C C 6 44 48 1 yr.
Neff, Lance 56 C 5 41 51 1 yr.
Patten, Lorenzo 55 C RG 3 39 52 3 yrs
Wilcox, Antoine 66 LG 2 21 30 1 yr.
##Lane, Lamont 68 LG 5 17 27 3 yrs
Shea, Billy Joe 64 RG 7 21 42 1 yr.
Hampton, Percy 72 LT LT 3 38 44 3 yrs
Hittle, Hugh 60 LT LG 4 22 53 2 yrs
Folse, Nate 69 RT RT 7 40 40 1 yr.
Chung, Julio 8 P 1 51 73 2 yrs
Poole, Trent 3 K 3 53 76 1 yr.
Hazuga, Benjamin 93 LDE 5 45 49 1 yr.
Herndon, Irving 91 LDE 5 35 43 3 yrs
Donaldson, Thurman 76 RDE NT 5 48 51 1 yr.
Doyle, Ron 71 RDE RDE 9 41 46 1 yr.
Schwab, Terrance 97 RDE 6 26 39 2 yrs
Nevers, Drew 70 LDT LDE 10 48 50 2 yrs
Coughlin, Warren 75 RDT 7 30 38 2 yrs
Patterson, Chuck 52 MLB 3 31 41 2 yrs
Binette, Emmitt 61 MLB 2 22 35 1 yr.
Ringrose, Lance 51 SLB SLB 11 55 55 1 yr.
Van Brocklin, Tim 90 SLB WILB 7 53 54 2 yrs
##Witt, Blaine 58 SLB 7 41 44 1 yr.
Duncan, Arnie 94 SLB 14 39 41 2 yrs
Lee, Carlton 98 SLB WLB 11 37 37 2 yrs
Qaderi, Daryl 54 WLB SILB 10 45 48 3 yrs
Norton, Ian 39 LCB LCB 8 45 52 1 yr.
Ross, Tommy 23 LCB RCB 8 43 48 1 yr.
##Molnar, Bryce 31 RCB 15 34 36 2 yrs
Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 5 32 32 3 yrs
Beattie, Justin 28 RCB 12 25 25 1 yr.
Back, Rusty 47 SS SS 5 52 52 1 yr.
Herrington, Tom 49 SS 3 17 33 3 yrs
Arbuckle, Winfred 32 FS FS 8 48 48 1 yr.
Monpoto, Nick 25 FS 1 23 32 2 yrs
##Barker, Mickey 33 FS 10 19 22 1 yr.
The biggest changes this year will be in the offensive skill positions, I think. We will have Leland Poole as our primary ball carrier, with Tomczak in the supporting role and seeing the field in lots of passing situations. I don’t have Tomczak slotted in the WR depth chart this season, as Gaylor and Small give us two pretty solid options as legitimate flankers (where I had been using Tomczak). We’ll see.
Tough call at QB – all four guys could be the starter, really. Lesch really looks to me like the most skilled guy, but he was dreadful last year so it’s hard to install him. We invested in Guilbeaux, but he really hasn’t taken a meaningful step forward, I don’t think. Tough call.
In preseason, I declare Guilbeaux the winner of the QB starting job, and we will slot Lesch behind him. Maumau looked okay, too, so he is also an option – though none of these guys are complete players.
In our opener, we get crushed and RB Poole goes down, so we are suddenly thin at one of our deepest positions. After an 0-3 start, Guilbeaux goes down, and we are sinking fast. Lesch gets another shot, and leads us to our first win (and the first signs of life from this offense).
We remove any doubt by demonstrating clearly that we are teh suck. We remain pretty solid on defense, but utterly incapable of passing the ball. Lesch is terrible, and things don’t get better with Maumau – another lost season down the tubes.
2010 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 3-13
Winning Pct.: .187
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 456 21
Rushing Yards 1904 17
Yards Per Carry 4.17 8
Pass Attempts 504 24
Completions 268 28
Passing Yards 3004 32
Yards Per Attempt 5.96 29
3rd Down Conversions 37.7 27
Points Per Game 14.7 28
Turnovers 41 32
Turnover Margin -17 32
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 492 24
Rushing Yards 1831 15
Yards Per Carry 3.72 5
Pass Attempts 495 4
Completions 301 13
Passing Yards 3533 13
Yards Per Attempt 7.13 23 (T)
3rd Down Conversions 46.2 27
Points Per Game 23.8 32
Turnovers 24 18 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 17 BAL 41
2 9 at ATL 35
3 3 TEN 6
4 27 at BUF 17
5 7 PIT 9
6 34 MIA 8
7 10 NYJ 20
8 14 at NED 27
9 3 at BAL 33
11 0 CIN 31
12 13 NOS 6
13 20 at KCY 24
14 20 at CAR 34
15 13 at CIN 28
16 19 TBY 21
17 27 at PIT 42
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
14 Lesch QB 250 131 1367 5.46 5 12
5 Maumau QB 168 94 1122 6.67 7 13
7 Guilbeaux QB 60 28 331 5.51 1 3
**Team --- 504 268 3004 5.96 14 28
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
34 Poole RB 205 829 4.04 3
20 Harvey RB 97 396 4.08 3
30 Tomczak RB 59 236 4.00 0
14 Lesch QB 42 187 4.45 0
**Team --- 456 1904 4.17 8
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
80 Hillman TE 87 41 406 9.9 124 3
13 Small WR 72 40 631 15.7 102 4
86 Berry WR 70 38 477 12.5 44 2
84 Gale WR 89 35 448 12.8 54 1
89 Gaylor WR 65 33 494 14.9 36 2
38 Flake FB 36 29 180 6.2 70 1
34 Poole RB 32 17 90 5.2 48 0
20 Harvey RB 23 16 137 8.5 43 0
**Team --- 504 268 3004 11.2 570 14
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
90 Van Brocklin OLB 107 48 1.0 0 5 2
54 Qaderi OLB 88 28 2.0 1 0 7
51 Ringrose OLB 86 27 2.0 5 0 3
47 Back S 81 28 0.0 1 1 15
98 Lee OLB 55 20 1.0 3 1 1
94 Duncan OLB 46 7 2.0 4 0 2
39 Norton CB 46 24 0.0 0 1 8
32 Arbuckle S 43 13 1.0 0 0 7
25 Monpoto S 43 14 0.0 0 7 4
71 Doyle DE 32 20 5.5 20 0 0
23 Ross CB 31 7 0.0 0 1 2
91 Herndon DE 24 14 3.5 2 0 0
70 Nevers DT 23 10 6.0 18 0 0
76 Donaldson DE 23 12 0.0 5 0 0
28 Beattie CB 16 0 0.0 0 0 0
**Team --- 863 286 24.0 65 17 55
Our pass defense faded a bit late in the season, but on balance we were fairly effective again on defense. Rookie DB Monpoto had a nice year playing either as safety or as a nickelback, and probably fits in for us down the road, wherever we can slot him. LB Tim Van Brocklin was outstanding as our WILB, as our only obvious defensive liability was the totally anemic pass rush.
Offensively, a mess. We should just run the ball 90% of the time, I’m thinking. Perhaps we could win some games with a super-conservative offense? Our receivers aren’t terrible, but perhaps the total lack of cohesion there hurts us too much. Our passers are just unworthy of mention – none look terrible by the ratings, but none do anything worthwhile on the field, either. Ugh.
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 01:18 PM
2011 season
What to do, what to do? Is it just about getting a quality QB? Or should we just play to our strengths, give in to the idea that we won’t be any good passing the ball anyway, and try to become a pound-it-out team? I’m thinking the latter – and this year we will try to go in that direction. We will run the ball more, use more TE-heavy formations, and see if we can get things rolling with the running game and (hopefully) good defensive play.
I max out on offers to a new scout and coach. The coach seems like a step up for us – excellent ratings in playcalling (both) and avoiding injuries. Looks like a home run.
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Guilbeaux, Marc 7 QB 3 40 41 ---
Tomczak, Jeremy 30 RB 11 34 37 ---
Gale, Moe 84 SE 10 42 42 ---
Cobb, Andy 53 C 7 39 47 ---
Neff, Lance 56 C 6 39 52 ---
Wilcox, Antoine 66 LG 3 22 31 ---
Shea, Billy Joe 64 RG 8 20 41 ---
Folse, Nate 69 RT 8 40 40 ---
Poole, Trent 3 K 4 60 76 ---
Hazuga, Benjamin 93 LDE 6 46 50 ---
Donaldson, Thurman 76 RDE 6 47 50 ---
Doyle, Ron 71 RDE 10 41 46 ---
Binette, Emmitt 61 MLB 3 22 33 ---
Ringrose, Lance 51 SLB 12 55 55 ---
Witt, Blaine 58 SLB 8 37 43 ---
Norton, Ian 39 LCB 9 45 52 ---
Ross, Tommy 23 LCB 9 43 48 ---
Beattie, Justin 28 RCB 13 25 25 ---
Back, Rusty 47 SS 6 54 54 ---
Arbuckle, Winfred 32 FS 9 48 48 ---
Barker, Mickey 33 FS 11 19 19 ---
There is our list of players out of contract. We are slated to lose a lot on defense – three valuable starters from the front seven (with another one already ruined by injury to boot) and potentially all four best defensive backs. We have done well in the past with the defense, but we’ve done it in three year cycles – and we just ended one of them. Ouch.
We just zip ahead to the late FA stages this time – I’m not detailing every player acquisition, and I’ll wait until the asking prices have dropped before I start investing time in the search.
I am figuring that CB Wohlabaugh is likely to be my DB position leader, and will target acquisitions to work well with him in that role. He has already re-signed once with us, maybe he can be that “career” guy for us – decent enough to get reserve playing time, installed as a long term leader, and always willing to take the minimum to come back. He’s only a 6th year guy now – could be promising.
However, searching in free agency, we sign CB Troy Glenn, an original Brown, who will become our leader there. He creates a couple of affinities, including one with Wohlabaugh.
After training camp, we want to re-sign G Shea, who has been our position leader. That works out painlessly, we just lose the continuity of his last contract. Alas.
There are several solid players (including several of my old guys who never signed anywhere) who continue to demand contracts over minsal. At some point, we might be able to bring a guy or two off the waiver wire and into the lineup – especially on the defensive line, where we are in big trouble as it stands.
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
##Lesch, Phil 14 QB 14 44 50 1 yr.
Guilbeaux, Marc 7 QB QB 3 43 43 1 yr.
Schulz, Jonathan 19 QB 8 38 44 1 yr.
Maumau, Tommy 5 QB 6 32 45 2 yrs
Moll, Glenn 43 RB RB 6 54 54 3 yrs
Harvey, Perry 20 RB 9 44 44 2 yrs
Poole, Leland 34 RB 11 42 46 2 yrs
##Waite, Earl 35 RB 8 29 31 1 yr.
Flake, Lincoln 38 FB FB 6 43 46 1 yr.
Hillman, Sherman 80 TE TE 8 66 72 1 yr.
James, Bruce 82 TE 12 59 63 3 yrs
##Worth, Chad 84 TE 14 54 59 3 yrs
Preston, Kendall 85 TE 15 34 38 2 yrs
##Wynn, Dexter 87 TE 2 29 43 1 yr.
Gaylor, Dallas 89 FL FL 7 44 44 2 yrs
Small, Lance 13 FL 7 42 47 2 yrs
Shipway, Kris 83 FL 3 27 39 2 yrs
Berry, Dennis 86 SE SE 8 38 42 1 yr.
##Howe, Howie 10 SE 10 32 32 3 yrs
##Clinton, Money 81 SE 11 12 12 1 yr.
Patten, Lorenzo 55 C C 4 45 50 2 yrs
Dotson, Mel 59 C 3 30 39 3 yrs
Wilcox, Antoine 66 LG 3 27 36 1 yr.
Lane, Lamont 68 LG 6 14 20 2 yrs
Shea, Billy Joe 67 RG RG 8 19 41 1 yr.
Hampton, Percy 72 LT LT 4 41 44 2 yrs
Hittle, Hugh 60 LT LG 5 31 52 1 yr.
Page, Brent 79 RT RT 1 22 38 2 yrs
Chung, Julio 8 P 2 62 72 1 yr.
Walzer, Dave 17 K 1 32 56 2 yrs
Herndon, Irving 91 LDE NT 6 41 42 2 yrs
Emerson, Bubba 73 LDE RDE 6 38 43 3 yrs
Schwab, Terrance 97 RDE 7 25 38 1 yr.
Jennings, Van 71 LDT 7 43 51 3 yrs
**Nevers, Drew 70 LDT 11 41 44 1 yr.
Gunn, Jeff 95 LDT 10 36 37 3 yrs
Coughlin, Warren 75 RDT 8 31 38 1 yr.
Gohl, Mark 92 MLB SLB 8 42 47 3 yrs
Fiebelkorn, Jimmy 94 MLB 12 36 39 3 yrs
##Patterson, Chuck 52 MLB 4 32 39 1 yr.
##Binette, Emmitt 61 MLB 3 23 33 2 yrs
Van Brocklin, Tim 90 SLB WILB 8 48 53 1 yr.
Johnston, Jesse 99 SLB LDE 6 45 46 3 yrs
Lee, Carlton 98 SLB 12 37 37 1 yr.
Morley, Brant 57 SLB 8 36 39 3 yrs
Witt, Blaine 58 SLB 8 35 38 3 yrs
Briggs, Larry 50 WLB WLB 12 45 45 3 yrs
Qaderi, Daryl 54 WLB SILB 11 40 45 2 yrs
##Stargell, Lonnie 56 WLB 11 38 43 3 yrs
Hite, C.J. 37 LCB LCB 9 52 53 3 yrs
Chew, Jerome 36 RCB RCB 6 48 48 3 yrs
Glenn, Troy 29 RCB 14 32 32 3 yrs
Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 6 32 32 2 yrs
Tanner, Frankie 44 SS SS 12 49 53 3 yrs
##Herrington, Tom 49 SS 4 21 33 2 yrs
Bensen, Roman 48 FS FS 5 41 42 3 yrs
Monpoto, Nick 25 FS 2 28 32 1 yr.
There’s our lineup as we start off preseason.
This year, we are going to be, primarily, a two-TE offense, using those formations quite a lot when we’re in most situations. RB Moll, a guy we signed last year then cut, had an offseason breakout – and with us again, he figures to be our top running threat. Leland Poole, then, will be the utility back and receiving threat from the backfield and even from split out wide.
I make one last pass through the free agent list. To my surprise, there are a few guys worth a look here. G Courtney Fulcher is a run blocking guard who will be a great addition, and whose asking price finally dropped to minsal. And, we manage to sign QB Christian Swift – now three years removed from his last season with Cleveland – to a one year deal. Swift immediately jumps to the top of the QB depth chart, though I intend to stick with the run-heavy attack.
Okay, we are off and running now.
In our first two games, we split two close results – and Swift has thrown 68 passes. Not exactly the “Ground Chuck” offense here, but two more wins get us to 3-1, and we’re not going to question the method now. Christian Swift has 7 TDs to 3 interceptions, and our offense looks the best it ever had, perhaps. Two more wins, and we are at 5-1, the best record this franchise has ever posted.
A new coach, a new offensive gameplan, and a return from an old friend at QB – suddenly, this team seems to have turned the corner. Really. The run ends at midseason, but we cannot complain about 6-2 under any circumstance.
Front Office Football 2004
2011 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 11-4-1
Winning Pct.: .718
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 573 1
Rushing Yards 2267 2
Yards Per Carry 3.95 17 (T)
Pass Attempts 440 32
Completions 255 32
Passing Yards 2831 30
Yards Per Attempt 6.43 23
3rd Down Conversions 48.2 6
Points Per Game 19.3 16
Turnovers 17 6 (T)
Turnover Margin +7 5 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 448 10
Rushing Yards 1713 11
Yards Per Carry 3.82 13
Pass Attempts 517 16
Completions 325 24 (T)
Passing Yards 3416 11
Yards Per Attempt 6.60 12
3rd Down Conversions 42.0 17
Points Per Game 16.8 7
Turnovers 24 11 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 27 CIN 30
2 21 SFO 20
3 27 MIA 11
4 21 TEN 20
5 27 at JAX 24
6 24 at HOU 10
7 10 at BAL 7
8 10 IND 17
9 20 PIT 20
11 9 at CIN 3
12 14 STL 10
13 16 at OAK 10
14 31 at SEA 37
15 28 at PIT 21
16 17 at ARI 13
17 7 BAL 16
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
2 Swift QB 440 255 2831 6.43 23 13
**Team --- 440 255 2831 6.43 23 13
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
34 Poole RB 224 893 3.98 3
43 Moll RB 210 803 3.82 6
20 Harvey RB 102 467 4.57 3
**Team --- 573 2267 3.95 12
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
20 Harvey RB 73 47 370 7.8 117 9
86 Berry WR 90 47 637 13.5 75 1
13 Small WR 64 36 536 14.8 72 5
80 Hillman TE 52 30 289 9.6 59 2
34 Poole RB 35 20 185 9.2 81 1
43 Moll RB 29 20 254 12.7 118 1
82 James TE 31 17 151 8.8 14 2
84 Worth TE 21 16 160 10.0 32 1
**Team --- 439 255 2831 11.1 598 23
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
92 Gohl ILB 91 24 2.0 1 0 5
44 Tanner S 83 26 0.0 0 2 6
90 Van Brocklin OLB 77 34 2.0 0 1 5
98 Lee OLB 67 12 11.0 7 1 6
37 Hite CB 67 19 0.0 0 3 11
36 Chew CB 59 19 0.0 0 4 11
54 Qaderi OLB 51 20 2.0 0 0 4
48 Bensen S 50 15 0.0 1 0 8
57 Morley OLB 27 13 0.0 0 0 1
91 Herndon DE 27 17 4.0 0 0 0
29 Glenn CB 25 6 0.0 2 0 2
73 Emerson DE 21 10 4.5 8 0 0
50 Briggs OLB 20 9 2.0 1 0 2
99 Johnston OLB 18 7 3.0 5 0 0
76 Finch DT 16 7 0.5 2 0 0
71 Jennings DT 16 11 1.5 17 0 0
**Team --- 847 266 35.0 45 13 65
Well, well. A division title, a bye week – this is the life! And how did we do it? I don’t even know!
I guess putting two tight ends on the field makes sense – they are better players than our receivers or fullbacks. And we clearly benefitted from the QB serendipity – getting Swift, even if it’s only for one year (I have to think it will be) was certainly a boon. But we didn’t really pound the ball – we ran it a lot, but we weren’t really all that good at running, overall. The RB committee was fine, but didn’t get much help from a crappy line other than G Courtney Fulcher, clearly the best guy we’ve got up there, and another easy one-year wonder for us.
And the defense, truth be told, slipped a bit. No real surprise there, we had lots of turnover, but it was a bit disappointing. Actually, Hite and Chew are pretty good fits for this scheme, and them playing together for the next couple years gives us a chance to improve on this performance. We also got a bit more QB pressure than last year – with another stunningly good year from LB Carlton Lee, who was basically pressed into service by injuries.
In the playoffs, we go one and out, unfortunately – losing our opener to the Jets 21-20. No real woe, we just got edged out in a very even game.
But the season has to be considered a great success – our first winning year, and a playoff berth to boot!
QuikSand
09-21-2005, 01:19 PM
Considering the rules…
With that, I have to start thinking about whether it ought to be within my rules to sign a minsal free agent player after training camp. Generally, I have only been looking to do when when it’s my own player, especially a key position group leader. But here, we signed two key players – a run-blocking guard and a quarterback, neither of whom would take our deal in late free agency. I’m guessing that an aggressive use of this tactic would result in a fairly wide-open backdoor – where the best way to play would be to leave five or six slots open on the roster, and just sign the best guys out there after the season starts. Heck – that might be the best way to fill your starting QB position, rather than going with the chumps who are willing to sign for minsal all along.
Something to consider… I think going forward, I’m not going to make any real signings after camp, other than those motivated by affinity considerations (essentially the way I had been playing up until this season).
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 07:57 AM
2012 season
Retirements! Five! RB Leland Poole and LB Carlton Lee have been very solid for us, and both are surprises. WR Money Clinton leaves us without our WR leader. And we lose two tight ends, Kendall Preston and Chad Worth. Ouch – worst list ever there.
Out of contract this offseason:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Swift, Christian 2 QB 13 49 53 ---
Guilbeaux, Marc 7 QB 4 43 43 ---
Flake, Lincoln 38 FB 7 43 46 ---
Hillman, Sherman 80 TE 9 66 72 ---
Wynn, Dexter 87 TE 3 29 44 ---
Berry, Dennis 86 SE 9 38 42 ---
Fulcher, Courtney 62 LG 8 64 70 ---
Schultz, Leland 65 LG 4 27 38 ---
Shea, Billy Joe 67 RG 9 19 40 ---
Hittle, Hugh 60 LT 6 38 52 ---
Chung, Julio 8 P 3 73 73 ---
Schwab, Terrance 97 RDE 8 25 38 ---
Nevers, Drew 70 LDT 12 41 44 ---
Coughlin, Warren 75 RDT 9 31 38 ---
Finch, Johnny 76 RDT 12 31 35 ---
Patterson, Chuck 52 MLB 5 32 39 ---
Van Brocklin, Tim 90 SLB 9 48 53 ---
Monpoto, Nick 25 FS 3 29 32 ---
Biggest pain is at TE – all three of our real contributors last year have left, so we will basically be rebuilding from scratch. However, there are always pretty decent tight ends available, so I’m not too worried there.
QB Swift is almost certainly not coming back, so we will have to scrap together a starter there – maybe Guilbeaux will re-sign and come back – I still think he might be a guy we could use for a few years. We will be watching the wire, for certain.
We lose a lot of guys on the defensive line, but not a lot of talent. If Coughlin re-signs, that will help with continuity, but none of these guys were key starters. Nevers comes back from a serious injury, and is a lesser player now. At LB, Van Brocklin has been very good, but we have been effective with our depth there and have had no trouble getting decent players to trot out every year.
On the OL, I’d like to re-sign Shea, but if that seems unlikely, we will probably rebuild the chemistry there as well. Fulcher will head for big money, and Hittle is gone as well, I’m sure – so we have flexibility (to put a positive spin on it).
Ideal offseason will see us landing one more solid running back, a quarterback who can play, and perhaps one good run-blocking interior lineman.
We gin up the search in the late FA period, and fill in our roster.
QB Christian Swift is just slightly out of our reach, it seems – he’s asking for less than 2x minsal, but he won’t listen to our offers. So, it looks like we’ll have a number of second-rate options this season. I am intrigued by Marcus Settles – he is very good at avoiding interceptions, and doesn’t have any total voids. But he doesn’t have any other major rating over 40 – so he’s nothing too special. I am thinking he might end up being a nice “system” QB for us, a guy who won’t lose the game. We’ll see.
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Settles, Marcus 12 QB 4 34 46 3 yrs
Maumau, Tommy 5 QB 7 30 40 1 yr.
Zeutschel, Vince 18 QB 1 18 34 2 yrs
Moll, Glenn 43 RB 7 49 49 2 yrs
Dunlap, Scott 30 RB 12 44 47 3 yrs
Fox, Jesse 27 RB 10 41 41 3 yrs
Harvey, Perry 20 RB 10 39 39 1 yr.
Flake, Lincoln 38 FB 7 44 46 3 yrs
Tanner, Louie 84 TE 6 59 65 3 yrs
James, Bruce 82 TE 13 56 60 2 yrs
House, Sammy 81 TE 13 42 48 3 yrs
Gaylor, Dallas 89 FL 8 51 51 1 yr.
Small, Lance 13 FL 8 42 47 1 yr.
Shipway, Kris 83 FL 4 30 39 1 yr.
Mueller, Hugh 88 SE 7 44 46 3 yrs
Gale, Moe 80 SE 11 39 40 3 yrs
Howe, Howie 10 SE 11 32 32 2 yrs
Patten, Lorenzo 55 C 5 41 49 1 yr.
Alexander, Nate 53 C 5 41 51 3 yrs
Brandt, Omar 77 C 4 35 43 3 yrs
Dotson, Mel 59 C 4 31 38 2 yrs
Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 4 21 34 3 yrs
Lane, Lamont 68 LG 7 16 20 1 yr.
Shea, Billy Joe 67 RG 9 15 28 3 yrs
Hampton, Percy 72 LT 5 40 44 1 yr.
Lowe, Mack 62 LT 3 23 38 3 yrs
Page, Brent 79 RT 2 27 38 1 yr.
Asumaa, Ian 76 RT 1 17 52 2 yrs
Farrell, Burt 4 P 17 63 63 2 yrs
Walzer, Dave 17 K 2 43 56 1 yr.
Herndon, Irving 91 LDE 7 41 43 1 yr.
Emerson, Bubba 73 LDE 7 40 43 2 yrs
Gunn, Jeff 95 LDE 11 22 26 2 yrs
Jennings, Van 71 LDT 8 43 50 2 yrs
Bennett, Thomas 78 LDT 3 37 48 2 yrs
Winters, Wade 90 RDT 6 45 45 3 yrs
Collett, B.J. 96 RDT 4 31 48 3 yrs
Gohl, Mark 92 MLB 9 42 47 2 yrs
Fiebelkorn, Jimmy 94 MLB 13 32 35 2 yrs
Patterson, Chuck 52 MLB 5 26 33 3 yrs
Binette, Emmitt 61 MLB 4 20 27 1 yr.
Johnston, Jesse 99 SLB 7 42 46 2 yrs
Duveneck, Louis 93 SLB 15 38 43 3 yrs
Morley, Brant 57 SLB 9 36 39 2 yrs
Witt, Blaine 58 SLB 9 35 37 2 yrs
Mulcahy, A.J. 51 WLB 6 41 47 3 yrs
Briggs, Larry 50 WLB 13 39 39 2 yrs
Qaderi, Daryl 54 WLB 12 35 41 1 yr.
Stargell, Lonnie 56 WLB 12 32 38 2 yrs
Hite, C.J. 37 LCB 10 49 52 2 yrs
Winslett, David 39 LCB 5 46 50 3 yrs
Iversen, Tim 31 LCB 6 45 46 3 yrs
Chew, Jerome 36 RCB 7 47 47 2 yrs
Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 7 32 32 1 yr.
Glenn, Troy 29 RCB 15 27 27 2 yrs
Back, Rusty 22 SS 7 53 53 3 yrs
Tanner, Frankie 44 SS 13 49 52 2 yrs
Herrington, Tom 49 SS 5 23 34 1 yr.
Uveges, Hunter 35 FS 5 46 47 3 yrs
Rodriguez, Renaldo 34 FS 3 43 55 3 yrs
Bensen, Roman 48 FS 6 42 43 2 yrs
Monpoto, Nick 25 FS 3 30 32 1 yr.
So, it looks like a battle between Settles and Maumau for the starting job, and Settles has the slight advantage of being younger and signed for three years. In preseason, though, it’s Maumau who looks much better – and he gets the nod for the opener.
Our early season is okay – three close wins and one massive beatdown at the hand of a really good Washington team. Scott Dunlap is turning into our top running threat – he has more big play ability than anyone we have had in a while.
However, things turn ugly – after a 4-1 start, we basically collapse, and at 4-6 I make the QB switch – not that it will matter too much. Settles leads us to two straight wins, and at 6-6 we can start thinking about the playoff race again. From 7-7, we still have a shot, but two losses end the season and our hopes, as we fall short of .500 once again.
2012 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 7-9
Winning Pct.: .437
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 479 15 (T)
Rushing Yards 2005 9
Yards Per Carry 4.18 6 (T)
Pass Attempts 392 32
Completions 243 32
Passing Yards 2988 29
Yards Per Attempt 7.62 7
3rd Down Conversions 36.2 30
Points Per Game 17.2 22
Turnovers 21 10 (T)
Turnover Margin -2 15 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 524 30 (T)
Rushing Yards 2097 27
Yards Per Carry 4.00 17 (T)
Pass Attempts 528 24
Completions 348 32
Passing Yards 3776 27
Yards Per Attempt 7.15 25
3rd Down Conversions 48.1 29
Points Per Game 21.8 26
Turnovers 19 25 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 24 at PIT 21
2 14 WAS 49
3 29 TEN 27
5 27 DEN 24
6 21 OAK 20
7 10 at SDO 16
8 10 at KCY 19
9 19 at BAL 24
10 6 PIT 13
11 21 at CIN 24
12 13 PHI 10
13 14 at NYJ 13
14 3 at NYG 17
15 31 BAL 17
16 17 at DAL 31
17 17 CIN 24
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
5 Maumau QB 230 141 1819 7.90 13 9
12 Settles QB 152 95 1073 7.05 7 6
**Team --- 392 243 2988 7.62 21 16
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
43 Moll RB 170 599 3.52 4
30 Dunlap RB 154 775 5.03 4
27 Fox RB 114 446 3.91 3
**Team --- 479 2005 4.18 12
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
89 Gaylor WR 78 52 758 14.5 81 4
84 Tanner TE 64 41 535 13.0 150 7
13 Small WR 60 37 589 15.9 89 4
80 Gale WR 57 30 414 13.8 64 2
83 Shipway WR 40 18 221 12.2 58 0
30 Dunlap RB 24 17 110 6.4 46 0
**Team --- 392 243 2988 12.2 648 21
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
54 Qaderi OLB 100 28 0.5 0 0 7
92 Gohl ILB 100 40 2.0 0 0 8
57 Morley OLB 81 27 4.0 3 0 6
22 Back S 68 25 0.0 3 0 6
51 Mulcahy OLB 66 21 2.5 2 2 2
37 Hite CB 63 24 0.0 0 2 13
39 Winslett CB 61 16 0.0 0 0 1
96 Collett DT 57 19 5.0 3 0 1
31 Iversen CB 55 13 0.0 1 1 8
34 Rodriguez S 43 17 0.5 0 0 6
78 Bennett DT 30 10 6.0 18 0 0
99 Johnston OLB 22 9 2.5 5 0 1
91 Herndon DE 20 7 0.0 3 0 0
36 Chew CB 20 10 0.0 1 1 5
45 Wohlabaugh CB 19 6 0.0 0 2 1
61 Binette ILB 18 5 0.0 0 0 1
**Team --- 931 304 28.0 44 8 70
Well, on offense we were shaky as usual. The run-heavy game plan is probably best for us, and both QBs were pretty effective when playing within themselves. I expect we can work with Settles for the next couple of seasons - heck, he may even be limited (in skills) enough to be a long-termer for us.
WR Dallas Gaylor put up a career year (beating his high water mark during his previous “last year’ with us) and will now go out and try to get a real WR job somewhere. Moe Gale is the only WR who will return next year, so we will have issues there, I guess.
Our line simply needs to do a better job – it wasn’t awful, but only LT Percy Hampton was above average – and he’s out the door now anyway.
But this year, we were in the top ten in yards per rush and yards per attempt – so we can’t really complain about the offense at all.
Defensively – we really dropped off. The pass rush didn’t get anything done, really, as I was a bit disappointed with DT Thomas Bennett, starting as the RDE. But hardly anyone else really mounted any pass rushing threat at all, so he’s not the problem.
We have historically been a top-rated defense, but this year it all fell apart. We had injuries all year among the DBs, and never got any consistency there – perhaps that played a big role. Anyway – we have decent talent in the secondary, and just need to get them to settle down and play up to their potential.
I don’t think this team is really that bad – if we get lucky a little bit with the incoming group (perhaps landing a solid receiver, one or two offensive tackles, and perhaps an impact player on the defensive front) we could be right back into the thick of things.
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 07:58 AM
2013 season
Three retirements – RB Perry Harvey was done anyway, LB Louis Duveneck was a replaceable guy, but CB Troy Glenn was my DB position leader, and his departure leaves us messed up there a bit.
Our departing crop this year is about the usual – both starting offensive tackles and most of the wide receiving corps will be the biggest concerns:
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Maumau, Tommy 5 QB 8 34 40 ---
Gaylor, Dallas 89 FL 9 51 51 ---
Small, Lance 13 FL 9 42 47 ---
Shipway, Kris 83 FL 5 33 39 ---
Patten, Lorenzo 55 C 6 41 49 ---
Lane, Lamont 68 LG 8 16 20 ---
Hampton, Percy 72 LT 6 40 44 ---
Page, Brent 79 RT 3 27 38 ---
Walzer, Dave 17 K 3 53 57 ---
Herndon, Irving 91 LDE 8 41 43 ---
Binette, Emmitt 61 MLB 5 21 27 ---
Qaderi, Daryl 54 WLB 13 35 41 ---
Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 8 31 31 ---
Herrington, Tom 49 SS 6 23 34 ---
DE Irving Herndon is also our position leader, so if he won’t re-sign (likely that he will not) we will have to accommodate there as well. I would probably be better off signing guys who will stay on forever as leaders here (the Money Clinton route) so I don’t have to keep re-inventing the wheel each offseason at one or two position groups.
QB James Nixon is a guy worth getting a little excited about – former 6th round pick, somehow witting available, and willing to take a 3 year deal with us. My scout rates him 22/55 – a possibly important pickup for us.
After much fiddling, I decide that sticking with CB Wohlabaugh as our position leader makes the most sense. He’s got good enough skills to play if needed, he has a strong personality, and he has just signed his third Cleveland contract for minsal – he could be a lifer. Trouble is, we have no affinity around him. I’ll work on that, even at the expense of our reserve talent.
On the defensive front, I can’t get DE Herndon to re-sign, so we are up in the air there. LB A.J. Mulcahy becomes the new leader, and we have six players who click with him out of the box – a good transition. It costs LB Johnston his job, but he had been very disappointing anyway.
WR Kendall Plumtree is a guy I have coveted the last couple of year, but he has never quite been willing to sign with us. Now he does – and takes the position group leadership role.
In the preseason, we have a huge change in plans, as QB Marcus Settles is felled with a hip injury. Out for the year, maybe for next year too – which puts a real dent in what I thought might be my “long term QB’ for this team. The battle goes to third year men James Nixon and Dale Richardson. Nixon’s upside make him the clear favorite, and he will take the top spot – but he doesn’t have the same “don’t lose the game” mentality that Settles did.
As we start the regular season, here’s the roster:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
**Settles, Marcus 12 QB 5 41 47 2 yrs
Richardson, Dale 7 QB 3 36 37 3 yrs
Nixon, James 1 QB QB 3 28 54 3 yrs
Koonce, Mo 5 QB 3 27 38 1 yr.
Moll, Glenn 43 RB RB 8 46 46 1 yr.
##Barker, Rex 26 RB 10 42 44 3 yrs
Dunlap, Scott 30 RB 13 38 40 2 yrs
Fox, Jesse 27 RB 11 38 38 2 yrs
Flake, Lincoln 38 FB FB 8 44 47 2 yrs
##Fisk, Bo 23 FB 7 39 41 3 yrs
Holmes, Ernest 85 TE 6 65 65 3 yrs
Tanner, Louie 84 TE TE 7 60 65 2 yrs
Newhart, Ron 87 TE 6 59 65 3 yrs
Shipway, Kris 83 FL 5 34 40 3 yrs
Mueller, Hugh 88 SE FL 8 41 45 2 yrs
Plumbtree, Kendall 82 SE SE 10 40 42 3 yrs
Gale, Moe 80 SE 12 35 36 2 yrs
##Malone, Grant 89 SE 4 23 35 3 yrs
Alexander, Nate 53 C C 6 50 52 2 yrs
Brandt, Omar 77 C LG 5 40 42 2 yrs
Dotson, Mel 59 C 5 28 32 1 yr.
##Upshaw, Ray 58 C 1 22 42 2 yrs
**Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 5 22 33 2 yrs
Lane, Lamont 68 LG 8 13 15 3 yrs
Shea, Billy Joe 67 RG RG 10 20 28 2 yrs
Knopf, Jimmy 66 LT LT 3 33 48 3 yrs
Schramm, Roderick 63 LT RT 5 30 39 3 yrs
Lowe, Mack 62 LT 4 27 38 2 yrs
Farrell, Burt 4 P 18 59 59 1 yr.
Blanchard, Shannon 15 K 3 42 50 3 yrs
Emerson, Bubba 73 LDE 8 38 44 1 yr.
Marrow, Ted 97 LDE 3 28 49 3 yrs
##Harper, Troy 93 LDE 4 24 36 3 yrs
Bennett, Thomas 78 LDT RDE 4 50 50 1 yr.
Jennings, Van 71 LDT 9 43 50 1 yr.
Winters, Wade 90 RDT NT 7 44 44 2 yrs
Collett, B.J. 96 RDT LDE 5 41 48 2 yrs
Gohl, Mark 92 MLB 10 42 48 1 yr.
Fiebelkorn, Jimmy 94 MLB 14 29 33 1 yr.
Daniels, O.J. 56 SLB SILB 6 47 49 3 yrs
Van Brocklin, Tim 99 SLB WILB 10 44 48 3 yrs
Morley, Brant 57 SLB 10 35 38 1 yr.
Mulcahy, A.J. 51 WLB SLB 7 44 47 2 yrs
##Briggs, Larry 50 WLB 14 32 32 1 yr.
Qaderi, Daryl 54 WLB WLB 13 32 37 3 yrs
Hite, C.J. 37 LCB LCB 11 49 52 1 yr.
Winslett, David 39 LCB RCB 6 49 49 2 yrs
Iversen, Tim 31 LCB 7 44 46 2 yrs
Norton, Ian 32 LCB 11 43 51 3 yrs
Chew, Jerome 36 RCB FS 8 47 47 1 yr.
Riley, Cole 25 RCB 9 44 50 3 yrs
##Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 8 31 31 3 yrs
Springer, Lewis 24 RCB 1 10 24 2 yrs
Back, Rusty 22 SS SS 8 53 53 2 yrs
**Rodriguez, Renaldo 34 FS 4 51 55 2 yrs
Bensen, Roman 48 FS 7 40 41 1 yr.
Our roster rating is still the league lowest, at a 2. Our DB cohesion is slightly into the top half of the league – the rest are in the lower tier, with our passing cohesion near the bottom. Clearly that won’t be winning games for us.
Is this a winning team? Hard to say. With Settles in at QB, I had some hopes that we might win with defense and the running game. Now, I fear that we may have more mistakes to overcome. We get LB Van Brocklin back for another stint which is good, though he is declining, and I still think the defense ought to be better than average. We’ll see how effectively we block and run the ball – that probably makes the big difference this year.
Week one – a win, but we lose QB Nixon to a knee. Ouch. Through the early season, we are losing at least one player every week to a serious injury – so we are doing a lot of shuffling. We still manage to reach 3-3, with QB Dale Richardson earning a 96 rating so far. Tough to sit that guy down – he’ll stay at the reins, I guess. But, after a dreadful game against the Jets, I hook him, and we will try Nixon again.
At 5-6 on the season, we need a late run to at least make .500 for the year. We split two, and at 6-7, we’d need to run the table to make a winning season. A loss in week 16 gives us eight, and we close with another to settle in right at 7-9 – pretty much where we were headed all along, it seems.
2013 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 7-9
Winning Pct.: .437
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 549 2
Rushing Yards 2124 3
Yards Per Carry 3.86 22
Pass Attempts 336 32
Completions 202 32
Passing Yards 2415 32
Yards Per Attempt 7.18 16
3rd Down Conversions 37.3 29
Points Per Game 16.9 23 (T)
Turnovers 19 9 (T)
Turnover Margin +6 9 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 474 21
Rushing Yards 1815 15
Yards Per Carry 3.82 8
Pass Attempts 534 28
Completions 323 24
Passing Yards 3842 28
Yards Per Attempt 7.19 23
3rd Down Conversions 44.9 20
Points Per Game 18.7 16
Turnovers 25 13 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 16 at BAL 10
2 10 at MIN 17
3 34 SDO 17
4 16 at BUF 28
5 10 PIT 30
6 35 MIA 27
7 10 at NYJ 21
8 14 NED 10
9 10 BAL 13
11 14 at CIN 24
12 27 CHI 17
13 14 at TEN 21
14 17 DET 10
15 24 CIN 13
16 10 at GBY 20
17 10 at PIT 22
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
1 Nixon QB 180 99 1207 6.70 7 9
7 Richardson QB 155 102 1196 7.71 10 8
**Team --- 336 202 2415 7.18 17 17
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
30 Dunlap RB 210 908 4.32 4
27 Fox RB 134 506 3.77 3
43 Moll RB 129 477 3.69 3
1 Nixon QB 44 109 2.47 0
**Team --- 549 2124 3.86 11
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
84 Tanner TE 60 36 333 9.2 65 4
80 Gale WR 61 34 464 13.6 93 4
88 Mueller WR 44 28 481 17.1 98 2
83 Shipway WR 42 22 408 18.5 42 1
30 Dunlap RB 27 21 170 8.0 26 2
**Team --- 333 202 2415 11.9 445 17
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
92 Gohl ILB 93 20 2.0 1 0 8
56 Daniels OLB 88 38 1.5 1 0 4
54 Qaderi OLB 67 27 3.0 1 0 3
51 Mulcahy OLB 58 25 6.0 5 1 3
36 Chew CB 55 21 2.5 0 3 7
39 Winslett CB 53 14 0.0 1 1 9
94 Fiebelkorn ILB 52 12 0.0 0 0 3
32 Norton CB 52 13 0.0 0 5 9
22 Back S 49 24 0.0 0 1 10
31 Iversen CB 37 6 1.0 0 2 5
37 Hite CB 35 2 0.0 1 0 5
96 Collett DT 35 18 2.5 7 0 0
25 Riley CB 33 10 1.0 0 2 4
78 Bennett DT 29 15 4.5 25 0 0
90 Winters DT 22 15 3.0 5 0 0
73 Emerson DE 19 7 2.0 2 0 0
**Team --- 874 282 31.0 60 15 71
It’s hard to justify Nixon at QB, since his stats are all inferior to those of Richardson, at the end of the day. I had been worried about Richardson’s interceptions, but he ended up with a lower rate than did Nixon. Probably an open competition for next season.
Scott Dunlap eventually proved to be the most effective RB, but all these guys have various assets and liabilities. I think we might be better with a guy who is okay at everything, rather than this lot. Moll is gone after this season anyway, so we will be looking, most likely.
The run defense was solid, the pass defense a bit weak. no real pressure on the QB (though DE Bennett was pretty effective, he didn’t actually register many sacks, once again), and our DBs again failed to live up to their apparent ratings.
We anticipate another shakeup offseason on defense – so there will be vacant roster slots just waiting for some help, especially in the front seven.
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 08:03 AM
2014 season
Retirements – three linebackers, most notably Daryl Qaderi, who had been with us for four seasons, and we had counted on him as a solid run-stopper. Tough loss – and we now only have three linebackers signed to a contract of any sort for this season – including the injury-prone Tim Van Brocklin, who only managed two games for us last year. That will be an area of priority – we may have to consider switching back to the 4-3 front unless we get some help.
For this season, I think I want to start in a new direction. (…did he just say nude erection?)
It just looks like this team is stagnating – and that we really can’t win with the formula I have been using. I have built pretty high levels of affinity, but we have been unable to keep many players past their initial contract with us – therefore, we end up with pretty low cohesion. If it’s a given that we are always going to have a pretty lousy roster overall, I’m thinking that perhaps building up some cohesion might be a more effective way to get ahead, rather than just chasing an endless series of marginally talented players. I’m going to try to put this to work right away on the OL, and perhaps in the defensive secondary as well – both spots where we might have long-time position leaders already in place who might stick around for the long haul.
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Koonce, Mo 5 QB 4 26 36 ---
Moll, Glenn 43 RB 9 46 46 ---
Dotson, Mel 59 C 6 29 32 ---
Farrell, Burt 4 P 19 59 59 ---
Emerson, Bubba 73 LDE 9 38 43 ---
Bennett, Thomas 78 LDT 5 52 52 ---
Jennings, Van 71 LDT 10 43 50 ---
Gohl, Mark 92 MLB 11 42 48 ---
Morley, Brant 57 SLB 11 35 38 ---
Hite, C.J. 37 LCB 12 49 52 ---
Chew, Jerome 36 RCB 9 46 46 ---
Bensen, Roman 48 FS 8 40 41 ---
There is our list of players out of contract – we’ll make our usual efforts to get a few to stay, but I don’t hold out a lot of hope.
Priorities for this offseason include a new stack of linebackers and defensive linemen (obviously), a running back we might be able to slot at RB1, a punt returner or two, and some offensive linemen who might be willing to stick around for the long haul and play alongside G Billy Joe Shea (our 11th year position leader). If we can lock up a few defensive backs with the same idea in mind, then we’ll pursue that as well.
As if we didn’t have enough LB problems – O.J Daniels, our run-stopping beast, is holding out. We need him, and will just have to hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
After training camp, we have a pretty new look to the defensive front, and I’d be thinking 4-3 if there were four defensive linemen worth a damn on this roster. Could be trouble this season up front, I fear. At least LB O.J. Daniels is back now, ending his holdout – so there’s one starting job accounted for.
We expect to suit up 3rd year back Kirk Gaines as our feature running back this season – he has elusiveness, and is okay in every other key rating for a running back.
We’re ready for another season. I didn’t really fulfill my goal of stocking the OL and DB groups with long-termers, I don’t think – though we may have made some progress there with CB X-Man Brewer, a guy I like a bit who gets along with Wohlabaugh. Might not have a great ceiling, but he ought to be a nice reserve player, and hopefully he’ll re-sign after this initial deal.
I am sufficiently impressed with QB James Nixon’s ratings to insert him as the starter yet again. At 44/59 he might be the most highly-rated QB we have had in some time.
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Nixon, James 1 QB QB 4 44 59 2 yrs
Richardson, Dale 7 QB 4 37 37 2 yrs
**Settles, Marcus 12 QB 6 31 36 1 yr.
Moss, Carlos 4 QB 5 30 38 3 yrs
Barker, Rex 26 RB 11 35 38 2 yrs
Fox, Jesse 27 RB 12 34 34 1 yr.
Gaines, Kirk 20 RB RB 3 34 34 2 yrs
Fisk, Bo 23 FB FB 8 39 42 2 yrs
Holmes, Ernest 85 TE TE 7 64 64 2 yrs
Newhart, Ron 87 TE 7 59 64 2 yrs
##Wynn, Dexter 86 TE 5 39 48 3 yrs
Shipway, Kris 83 FL 6 36 41 2 yrs
##Madison, Willie 81 FL 3 32 38 2 yrs
Mueller, Hugh 88 SE FL 9 41 45 1 yr.
Plumbtree, Kendall 82 SE SE 11 39 42 2 yrs
Gale, Moe 80 SE 13 31 32 1 yr.
Malone, Grant 89 SE 5 26 35 2 yrs
Alexander, Nate 53 C C 7 49 51 1 yr.
Brandt, Omar 77 C LG 6 42 42 1 yr.
##Upshaw, Ray 58 C 2 25 43 1 yr.
Matthew, Wes 54 C 1 22 37 2 yrs
Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 6 17 25 1 yr.
##Lane, Lamont 68 LG 9 14 15 2 yrs
Shea, Billy Joe 67 RG RG 11 22 28 1 yr.
Knopf, Jimmy 66 LT LT 4 35 42 2 yrs
Schramm, Roderick 63 LT 6 33 40 2 yrs
Lowe, Mack 62 LT RT 5 30 38 1 yr.
Foreman, Ernest 18 P 1 45 45 2 yrs
Blanchard, Shannon 15 K 4 44 50 2 yrs
Emerson, Bubba 73 LDE 9 38 43 3 yrs
Marrow, Ted 97 LDE 4 32 48 2 yrs
##Harper, Troy 93 LDE 5 17 26 2 yrs
Collett, B.J. 96 RDT NT 6 49 49 1 yr.
Winters, Wade 90 RDT LDE 8 43 43 1 yr.
Poteet, Jerald 78 RDT RDE 14 33 36 3 yrs
##Palmer, Donnell 91 RDT 3 31 41 2 yrs
Niechniedowicz, Rondell 94 SILB 14 36 36 3 yrs
**Sullivan, Leonard 52 SILB 12 24 26 3 yrs
Chang, Cory 98 WILB 1 24 36 2 yrs
Daniels, O.J. 56 SLB SILB 7 45 48 2 yrs
Van Brocklin, Tim 99 SLB WILB 11 43 48 2 yrs
Watson, Jessie 55 WLB 5 47 47 3 yrs
Mulcahy, A.J. 51 WLB SLB 8 41 47 1 yr.
Bolton, Graham 50 WLB WLB 8 40 47 3 yrs
Cook, Nolan 38 LCB 8 49 51 3 yrs
Winslett, David 39 LCB FS 7 49 49 1 yr.
Norton, Ian 32 LCB LCB 12 38 46 2 yrs
Brewer, X-Man 36 LCB 1 18 40 2 yrs
Riley, Cole 25 RCB RCB 10 43 49 2 yrs
Carlisle, Kyle 41 RCB 9 43 45 3 yrs
Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 9 25 26 2 yrs
##Springer, Lewis 24 RCB 2 10 23 1 yr.
Back, Rusty 22 SS SS 9 51 53 1 yr.
Restifo, Tracy 42 SS 3 37 43 3 yrs
Rodriguez, Renaldo 34 FS 5 43 46 1 yr.
In the early going, we just can’t get the offense really moving – Nixon has 6 TDs to no picks in four games, but we can’t score enough to win more than two games. As I had feared, the defense doesn’t seem to be able to stop the run, which is a real concern.
A last second Hail Mary pass gets us a win over Baltimore, and pushes us to 4-3 on the year. Two more wins give us a nice 6-3 record, possibly the best situation we have ever had, save our one aberration season. With James Nixon posting the best QB season we have ever seen (14/4 ration, 96 rating) there may be something cooking in Cleveland. Finally.
We get to 8-2, with a completely patched-over secondary, due to yet another run of injuries. Kirk Gaines has topped 1,000 yards on the year – the first time in a while we have seen that mark reached. Two close wins, and we reach 11-4, good enough for a nearly certain playoff berth and we’re in the hunt for a bye week.
Baltimore beats us in our finale, and they pull even with us in the standings – we end up at 11-5, and will be playing in the wild card weekend. But we’re in.
2014 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 11-5
Winning Pct.: .687
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 606 1
Rushing Yards 2325 3
Yards Per Carry 3.83 23 (T)
Pass Attempts 364 32
Completions 203 32
Passing Yards 2724 31
Yards Per Attempt 7.48 9
3rd Down Conversions 44.9 16
Points Per Game 20.4 16
Turnovers 17 8 (T)
Turnover Margin +7 9 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 459 15
Rushing Yards 1824 16
Yards Per Carry 3.97 15
Pass Attempts 497 10
Completions 300 10
Passing Yards 3647 18
Yards Per Attempt 7.33 24
3rd Down Conversions 42.7 11 (T)
Points Per Game 19.0 13
Turnovers 24 14
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 3 at CIN 17
2 21 ATL 20
3 7 DEN 14
4 31 TEN 10
5 10 at JAX 26
6 31 at HOU 7
7 24 BAL 20
8 16 IND 14
9 30 at PIT 23
11 10 CIN 31
12 34 at NOS 14
13 30 at MIA 24
14 13 CAR 10
15 34 PIT 31
16 24 at TBY 20
17 9 at BAL 24
$$WC at KCY
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
1 Nixon QB 363 202 2721 7.49 26 11
**Team --- 364 203 2724 7.48 26 11
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
20 Gaines RB 369 1394 3.77 7
26 Barker RB 92 348 3.78 3
1 Nixon QB 73 264 3.61 1
27 Fox RB 54 235 4.35 0
**Team --- 606 2325 3.83 11
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
88 Mueller WR 57 31 513 16.5 112 2
82 Plumbtree WR 58 30 567 18.9 140 4
80 Gale WR 46 27 369 13.6 44 5
83 Shipway WR 55 23 361 15.6 101 2
20 Gaines RB 32 22 139 6.3 79 3
23 Fisk FB 23 19 119 6.2 60 1
85 Holmes TE 35 18 217 12.0 55 2
87 Newhart TE 27 17 306 18.0 56 7
**Team --- 363 203 2724 13.4 714 26
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
56 Daniels OLB 133 34 2.0 2 0 3
39 Winslett CB 64 11 1.0 0 2 7
55 Watson OLB 60 22 1.0 1 2 7
96 Collett DT 54 28 1.5 9 0 0
22 Back S 53 21 0.0 0 4 3
99 Van Brocklin OLB 52 24 3.0 1 1 4
51 Mulcahy OLB 45 20 3.0 4 0 7
38 Cook CB 45 11 0.0 0 2 6
25 Riley CB 43 16 0.0 0 3 12
50 Bolton OLB 41 11 1.0 3 0 3
42 Restifo S 29 8 1.0 0 0 2
90 Winters DT 23 13 2.5 6 0 1
87 Newhart TE 19 0 0.0 0 0 0
97 Marrow DE 19 9 2.0 12 0 0
41 Carlisle CB 18 8 0.0 0 1 6
94 Niechniedowicz ILB 17 10 0.0 1 0 3
**Team --- 830 278 22.0 49 17 67
So, we fade a little bit down the stretch, but this is probably our best offensive season yet. Nixon was brilliant (five picks in the final four games mar the season he was having to that point) leading the attack, and Gaines might have been the most balanced runner we have had. We spread the ball around among our receivers, despite having no injuries there (the #3 and #4 guys got practically the same number of passes thrown their way as the #1 and #2 guys).
On defense, we regressed a bit – we are getting almost no pressure on the passer at all. But we are playing pretty well in the secondary (despite getting many injuries there) and we end up at least average on balance. A solid turnover margin helps things, and we end up giving up fewer points than most of the league, despite a semi-shaky defense by the numbers.
The stage is set for a postseason offing…
And the Chiefs bring a quick end to that, with a 17-9 win in our opener. Nixon throws two picks in the loss, we can’t run, and while our defense plays pretty well… it’s not enough. It’s our season turned inside out, regrettably.
Solid effort for the year – and QB Nixon and RB Gaines are signed for one more year each, so perhaps we have another run in us next season…
wade moore
09-22-2005, 08:04 AM
Just a note that I'm reading and enjoying the challenge of this dynasty... less 'engaging' than some of the others, but more interesting in the challenge factor.
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 08:07 AM
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RB Jesse Fox has retired – no surprise, and no real loss either. That’s our only guy hanging up the cleats this season.
Here’s our list of free agents:
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Settles, Marcus 12 QB 7 22 24 ---
Kerr, Jackie 48 RB 6 28 33 ---
Mueller, Hugh 88 SE 10 40 45 ---
Gale, Moe 80 SE 14 31 32 ---
Alexander, Nate 53 C 8 45 51 ---
Brandt, Omar 77 C 7 38 41 ---
Upshaw, Ray 58 C 3 26 43 ---
Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 7 16 24 ---
Shea, Billy Joe 67 RG 12 22 28 ---
Lowe, Mack 62 LT 6 37 38 ---
Collett, B.J. 96 RDT 7 46 48 ---
Winters, Wade 90 RDT 9 42 42 ---
Mulcahy, A.J. 51 WLB 9 41 47 ---
Winslett, David 39 LCB 8 48 49 ---
Springer, Lewis 24 RCB 3 10 22 ---
Back, Rusty 22 SS 10 50 53 ---
Rodriguez, Renaldo 34 FS 6 44 47 ---
We can probably re-sign Marcus Settles, damaged goods after his serious injuries, but still a buddy with OL leader Billy Joe Shea. Shea, on the other hand, now thinks he’s worth a big gob of cash, and that’s bad news – we may have to go with a new OL leader after all (contrary to my whole thinking).
We may be able to re-up with LB A.J. Mulcahy – he’s not seeking any bonus money. If we get him to fall through the early FA periods, he might eventually settle for our minsal offer.
RB Glenn Moll is once again available – he has been one of our leading rushers on a career basis – and we re-up with him for another tour of duty. I expect he will be no more than our #2 rushing option, but having a solid veteran – who also takes the leadership role – isn’t too bad. This also allows us to re-sign FB Lincoln Flake, a guy I liked but who was a problem as a position leader for us last year.
CB Jumbo Grier is a guy I have watched for several years – he has always demanded just a bit too much to join up with us. Now he finally takes our offer – a 12th year guy, but he ought to be a solid addition in pass coverage, and maybe locks up a starting CB job right away.
No go with LB Mulcahy – he accepts a real contract, and is a goner. So, we patch by with a defensive front that neither looks particularly talented, bit gets along all that well. We’ll see how it goes there.
We set out for the season – here’s the roster:
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Nixon, James 1 QB QB 5 60 60 1 yr.
Frieswyk, Christian 10 QB 4 37 42 3 yrs
Richardson, Dale 7 QB 5 35 35 1 yr.
##Settles, Marcus 12 QB 7 16 18 3 yrs
Moll, Glenn 21 RB 10 37 37 3 yrs
Conley, Sammie 27 RB 4 35 35 3 yrs
Gaines, Kirk 20 RB RB 4 34 34 1 yr.
Peck, Ed 43 RB 1 29 37 2 yrs
Flake, Lincoln 39 FB FB 10 43 44 3 yrs
**Fisk, Bo 23 FB 9 40 43 1 yr.
Holmes, Ernest 85 TE TE 8 61 61 1 yr.
Newhart, Ron 87 TE 8 59 65 1 yr.
##Wynn, Dexter 86 TE 6 43 48 2 yrs
Shipway, Kris 83 FL FL 7 37 42 1 yr.
Madison, Willie 81 FL 4 35 38 1 yr.
Plumbtree, Kendall 82 SE SE 12 38 41 1 yr.
Samuels, Sedrick 14 SE 4 29 38 3 yrs
**Malone, Grant 89 SE 6 27 35 1 yr.
Greenlee, Archie 84 SE 4 20 37 3 yrs
Upshaw, Ray 58 C 3 28 42 1 yr.
Matthew, Wes 54 C C 2 24 37 1 yr.
Harmon, Drew 57 C 1 24 43 2 yrs
Clausen, Brant 75 LG 4 20 41 3 yrs
**Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 7 18 25 3 yrs
##Lane, Lamont 68 LG 10 10 11 1 yr.
Shea, Billy Joe 72 RG RG 12 21 27 1 yr.
Knopf, Jimmy 66 LT LT 5 43 43 1 yr.
Schramm, Roderick 63 LT LG 7 29 38 1 yr.
##Carpenter, Glenn 71 LT 1 19 36 2 yrs
McCarthy, Dwight 70 RT RT 5 32 53 3 yrs
Foreman, Ernest 18 P 2 52 52 1 yr.
Blanchard, Shannon 15 K 5 44 51 1 yr.
Marrow, Ted 97 LDE LDE 5 38 47 1 yr.
Emerson, Bubba 73 LDE 10 34 39 2 yrs
Shanabrough, Vincent 79 RDE 1 22 33 1 yr.
Sunia, Melvin 90 LDT 1 15 29 1 yr.
Palmer, Donnell 91 RDT 4 34 41 1 yr.
Poteet, Jerald 78 RDT NT 15 29 32 2 yrs
Niechniedowicz, Rondell 94 SILB WLB 15 34 35 2 yrs
##Sullivan, Leonard 52 SILB 13 20 22 2 yrs
Chang, Cory 98 WILB 2 29 37 1 yr.
Dotson, Walt 59 MLB 1 23 44 2 yrs
Van Brocklin, Tim 99 SLB SILB 12 43 47 1 yr.
Daniels, O.J. 56 SLB WILB 8 41 47 1 yr.
Morley, Brant 92 SLB 12 25 28 3 yrs
Watson, Jessie 55 WLB SLB 6 54 54 2 yrs
Bolton, Graham 50 WLB RDE 9 36 43 2 yrs
Grier, Junior 31 LCB LCB 12 48 48 3 yrs
Cook, Nolan 38 LCB 9 48 51 2 yrs
**Norton, Ian 32 LCB 13 33 40 1 yr.
Brewer, X-Man 36 LCB 2 25 43 1 yr.
Riley, Cole 25 RCB RCB 11 43 50 1 yr.
##Carlisle, Kyle 41 RCB 10 41 45 2 yrs
##Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 10 21 22 1 yr.
Restifo, Tracy 42 SS SS 4 40 42 2 yrs
Hill, Quentin 49 SS 1 16 31 2 yrs
Webster, Alvin 35 FS FS 4 30 41 3 yrs
We don’t have a lots of indicators suggesting we are any good – low cohesion and a roster rating of 2… but we’re hoping for one more playoff season, led by QB Nixon and our seemingly improved running game behind Kirk Gaines. if the defense can play well within our scheme (injuries probably play a huge role in this) we might be a winning team once again – this is probably our best shot so far with this team, I have to think.
In the season, we open with a tough loss at home to Pittsburgh, on a last minute field goal. We slide to a 1-4 record in the early going – and whatever was clicking for us last season sure isn’t now. 3-5 sounds a bit better – but not all that much, really. This does not look like a playoff team, by any real stretch.
We are already at a miserable 3-7 when Kirk Gaines is lost for the year and possibly more with a terrible blown-out knee. So it goes. Injuries just continue to pile up on us – it has been a terrible season for them. Things end up at a pretty sad 6-10 for the year – far below our ambitions, and presumably frittering away the last shot to get something done with a QB as good as Nixon. Oh, well.
2015 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 6-10
Winning Pct.: .375
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 570 2
Rushing Yards 2195 6
Yards Per Carry 3.85 19
Pass Attempts 381 32
Completions 225 32
Passing Yards 2678 32
Yards Per Attempt 7.02 14
3rd Down Conversions 48.1 7
Points Per Game 17.2 24
Turnovers 22 17 (T)
Turnover Margin -2 19 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 477 21
Rushing Yards 1938 21
Yards Per Carry 4.06 18
Pass Attempts 518 16
Completions 319 22 (T)
Passing Yards 3695 21
Yards Per Attempt 7.13 22
3rd Down Conversions 48.0 27
Points Per Game 20.5 21 (T)
Turnovers 20 20 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 24 PIT 27
2 33 at SFO 21
3 7 NED 17
5 16 at DEN 19
6 20 OAK 23
7 27 SDO 24
8 0 at KCY 17
9 27 BAL 20
10 6 at PIT 7
11 24 at CIN 38
12 21 STL 13
13 17 at TEN 13
14 13 at SEA 30
15 21 at BAL 26
16 17 ARI 13
17 3 CIN 20
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
1 Nixon QB 322 192 2364 7.34 22 7
7 Richardson QB 59 33 314 5.32 2 3
**Team --- 381 225 2678 7.02 24 10
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
20 Gaines RB 231 1029 4.45 5
43 Peck RB 148 449 3.03 0
27 Conley RB 87 371 4.26 1
1 Nixon QB 80 242 3.02 0
**Team --- 570 2195 3.85 6
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
83 Shipway WR 73 43 577 13.4 127 2
82 Plumbtree WR 63 34 406 11.9 79 6
81 Madison WR 60 32 456 14.2 61 3
85 Holmes TE 42 27 277 10.2 70 2
84 Greenlee WR 38 23 234 10.1 32 3
**Team --- 381 225 2678 11.9 620 24
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
56 Daniels OLB 124 38 1.0 2 0 3
42 Restifo S 79 23 1.0 1 1 8
99 Van Brocklin OLB 72 27 1.0 0 2 8
25 Riley CB 58 10 0.0 0 7 3
31 Grier CB 52 16 0.0 0 1 9
35 Webster S 51 29 0.0 0 0 11
59 Dotson ILB 44 14 0.0 1 1 3
97 Marrow DE 41 19 5.0 14 0 0
98 Chang ILB 40 13 2.5 2 0 3
78 Poteet DT 39 11 3.5 4 0 1
55 Watson OLB 37 10 0.0 3 0 6
94 Niechniedowicz ILB 30 11 2.0 1 0 1
38 Cook CB 30 12 0.0 0 0 1
36 Brewer CB 22 11 0.0 1 1 5
50 Bolton OLB 17 8 3.0 14 0 1
**Team --- 858 274 26.0 52 13 67
So – what did we get from James Nixon, in this his final season with us? Pretty good efficiency, a 3-1 ratio, but not enough to rescue this team from sub-mediocrity. Perhaps we’d have been better opening up and letting him throw the ball more? Tough to say. In pretty much every meaningful respect, this team just looks like a 6-10 club or thereabouts.
RB Gaines was fairly effective again, and Peck (playing FB for the first half of the season, then starting at HB) was okay, despite the depressed stats. I don’t think it’s wholesale failings of the OL that caused our real woes here.
On defense, LB O.J. Daniels was the big tackling machine out there, as expected, as our LB corps was probably the weakest we have had in years and years. Pass pressure is hitting a real low point, though our pass coverage was actually pretty decent. CB Junior Grier was pretty decent, and we got a solid season from X-Man Brewer, who is ascending my list of favorite players.
Tough to feel anything but disappointment after an inexplicably tough year – I don’t think we are likely to see a QB as skilled as Nixon again anytime soon, so frittering away his last year is a missed opportunity, for certain.
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 08:13 AM
As of now, the thread is caught up to what I have actually played.
I really thought 2015 was going to be the big breakthrough year... but for whatever reason, it all fell apart. Teams with such lousy talent to begin with just cannot stand to have several key injuries - that probbakly plays a real role. Also, I think I took for granted my LB play, and last year they just weren't very good to start out with, plus we got a couple guys injured. Recipe for serious but subtle underperformance.
wade moore
09-22-2005, 08:35 AM
Curious why you did not throw more with the performance of Nixon?
Toddzilla
09-22-2005, 08:44 AM
Are you passing all of your picks off to the same team - Arizona? - every year? If so, I'd be interested to see if this has helped them considerably.
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 09:20 AM
Curious why you did not throw more with the performance of Nixon?
I honestly don't think that this team has personnel well-suited to a passing heavy offense. Our linemen are mostly run blockers, and our receivers are/were pretty shakly, as usual. I genuinely think the best way to go, to play to our overall strengths, is to develop a pretty sound ground game and play good defense. We really didn't do either on last season... so we probably would have done better letting Nixon air it out. My mistake, perhaps.
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 09:24 AM
Are you passing all of your picks off to the same team - Arizona? - every year? If so, I'd be interested to see if this has helped them considerably.
Yes, Arizona has gotten all my picks for free since I started with this. The result?
Two playoff berths in 12 seasons, and one Superbowl loss (last season). Remains to be seen whether the team from last year is actually built for the long haul, or was just a fluke. They do have a very good QB drafted 1(1) four seasons ago, and a solid RB drafted 1(5) the following year -- so as long as they keep them they ought to be at least competitive.
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 10:34 AM
2016 season
Three retirements – DT Gerald Poteet (position leader), and linebackers Rondell Niechniedowicz and Brant Morley. We are close to just starting over on the defensive front – and judging by the results there recently, that might not be such a bad idea anyway.
Among our position leaders, it also looks like we will lose WR Plumtree, so I am planning to work with WR Willie Madison as our likely new leader – it looks like we will be able to re-sign him, and he has a 95 leadership rating, making him a pretty stable choice there. We already have one affinity with Madison, and can go from there, I hope.
It looks like we are going to once again have trouble signing G Billy Joe Shea – but we have built up so much chemistry around him that we have to bring him back, almost no matter what.
CB Dennis Wohlabaugh and RB Glenn Moll are probably safe in their respective leadership roles, if not in playing time.
In free agency, we have worries pretty much everywhere. I am fairly comfortable with our OL, and our secondary is in okay shape (though we need depth) so those are the exceptions. Everywhere else is up for grabs.
QB Marcus Settles is still on the roster for cohesion, but has basically zero skills at this point. Shame. That makes Christian Frieswyk our default starter – and that is not an exciting prospect, really. We do manage to re-sign Dale Richardson, and that gives us a little stability – he’s a decent-enough guy who has had some limited success with us before, so he probably becomes our #1 option.
Into camp, we have signed something like 600 linebackers, and it’s a total free-for-all among guys with pretty modest talents. Run-stopper Andrew Hoosier is our new position leader, and will be joined by returning friend A.J. Mulcahy (back after one season in New Orleans), but past that I don’t know who stays and who goes. We’ll probably carry nine linebackers, and use them in the DE slot sometimes.
We also have a legion of running backs, all looking for a piece of the pie. Several rookies who look okay will get a shot – we’ll probably have a committee approach this season, yet again, as nobody truly stands out here.
Here is the roster as we head into 2016 – a big unknown lies ahead:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Richardson, Dale 7 QB QB 6 36 36 3 yrs
Frieswyk, Christian 10 QB 5 36 40 2 yrs
Settles, Marcus 12 QB 8 10 13 2 yrs
Moll, Glenn 21 RB 11 36 36 2 yrs
##Conley, Sammie 27 RB 5 32 32 2 yrs
Peck, Ed 43 RB 2 32 35 1 yr.
Lucas, Norman 44 RB RB 3 31 36 2 yrs
##Bombard, Gerald 47 RB 1 25 33 2 yrs
Flake, Lincoln 39 FB FB 11 39 41 2 yrs
Matson, Marco 81 TE TE 6 49 52 3 yrs
Droker, Horace 85 TE 6 45 45 3 yrs
Wynn, Dexter 86 TE 7 41 43 1 yr.
Fee, Levon 11 FL FL 6 34 35 3 yrs
Handley, Gene 82 FL 3 26 44 2 yrs
Samuels, Sedrick 14 SE SE 5 26 31 2 yrs
##Brownell, Nick 80 SE 1 23 37 2 yrs
Greenlee, Archie 84 SE 5 22 37 2 yrs
Upshaw, Ray 58 C C 4 32 42 1 yr.
Harmon, Drew 57 C RG 2 29 43 1 yr.
Terry, Robert 73 LG LG 4 30 36 3 yrs
Clausen, Brant 75 LG 5 24 41 2 yrs
**Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 8 15 20 2 yrs
Shea, Billy Joe 68 RG 13 20 27 1 yr.
Carpenter, Glenn 71 LT LT 2 22 37 1 yr.
McCarthy, Dwight 70 RT RT 6 44 52 2 yrs
Shaw, Julio 67 RT 3 20 44 3 yrs
Vecchio, Sammie 16 P 17 71 71 3 yrs
Blanchard, Shannon 15 K 6 44 50 3 yrs
Brayshaw, Rodney 77 LDE LDE 6 42 43 3 yrs
Taylor, Ernest 76 LDE 4 30 43 3 yrs
Joyner, Kim 78 RDE RDE 1 27 40 2 yrs
Shanabrough, Vincent 79 RDE 2 24 32 1 yr.
Wayne, Bert 64 LDT 3 40 45 2 yrs
Buenavista, Wally 96 RDT NT 13 37 41 3 yrs
Beyer, Bucky 93 MLB 5 35 42 3 yrs
Dotson, Walt 59 MLB SILB 2 33 43 1 yr.
##Pinner, Oliver 56 MLB 10 31 36 3 yrs
Mamula, Sedrick 74 SLB 10 46 52 3 yrs
Van Brocklin, Tim 99 SLB 13 37 41 3 yrs
Carroll, Deion 51 WLB SLB 7 42 45 3 yrs
Hoosier, Andrew 53 WLB WILB 13 41 41 3 yrs
Gaylor, Lee 65 WLB 5 39 43 3 yrs
Mulcahy, A.J. 92 WLB WLB 10 36 42 3 yrs
##Bolton, Graham 50 WLB 10 34 41 1 yr.
O'Neal, Jackie 33 LCB RCB 6 47 47 3 yrs
Cook, Nolan 38 LCB 10 45 49 1 yr.
Grier, Junior 31 LCB LCB 13 42 42 2 yrs
Kelley, Mercury 28 LCB FS 7 36 37 3 yrs
Brewer, X-Man 36 LCB 3 34 45 2 yrs
##Carlisle, Kyle 41 RCB 11 42 46 1 yr.
##Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 11 19 20 3 yrs
Restifo, Tracy 42 SS SS 5 40 42 1 yr.
Hill, Quentin 49 SS 2 17 29 1 yr.
Webster, Alvin 35 FS 5 35 39 2 yrs
Off we go. Worst roster in the NFL? Check. Low cohesion in every area? Check. Unproven players at many key positions? Check. Draft picks worthless an already dealt away? Check. Sign up for your season tickets now, gang!
An 0-4 start befits the current state of affairs here in Cleveland. We are actually running the ball okay behind RB Lucas, but are below average in everything else, and we are losing the turnover battle – which you just can’t do with such a marginal team to begin with.
We finally squeeze out a win behind a 100-yard game from Lucas and 4 field goals from K Blanchard, the game MVP. Yay. We finish out not quite as pathetically as we started, but our final mark of 5-11 is basically one of futility. There’s very little hope here.
Front Office Football 2004
2016 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 5-11
Winning Pct.: .312
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 525 1
Rushing Yards 2174 2
Yards Per Carry 4.14 11 (T)
Pass Attempts 408 32
Completions 220 32
Passing Yards 2218 32
Yards Per Attempt 5.43 32
3rd Down Conversions 41.2 24
Points Per Game 16.5 28
Turnovers 27 22 (T)
Turnover Margin -9 27 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 489 25
Rushing Yards 1949 21
Yards Per Carry 3.98 14 (T)
Pass Attempts 510 20
Completions 317 22 (T)
Passing Yards 3557 13
Yards Per Attempt 6.97 14
3rd Down Conversions 52.4 31
Points Per Game 21.8 28
Turnovers 18 29
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 12 BAL 17
2 29 WAS 46
3 9 HOU 24
4 3 at BUF 16
5 16 PIT 23
6 26 MIA 17
7 7 SPR 17
8 33 at NED 27
9 13 at BAL 34
11 14 at CIN 17
12 27 PHI 24
13 10 at OAK 27
14 9 at NYG 3
15 7 CIN 20
16 24 at DAL 30
17 26 at PIT 7
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
7 Richardson QB 399 217 2200 5.51 13 19
**Team --- 408 220 2218 5.43 14 20
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
44 Lucas RB 345 1459 4.22 6
43 Peck RB 122 446 3.65 4
7 Richardson QB 33 159 4.81 1
**Team --- 525 2174 4.14 11
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
11 Fee WR 79 42 471 11.2 73 4
14 Samuels WR 72 37 383 10.3 36 1
82 Handley WR 72 36 385 10.6 30 3
85 Droker TE 38 24 232 9.6 34 1
84 Greenlee WR 55 22 261 11.8 26 2
81 Matson TE 33 21 223 10.6 48 1
39 Flake FB 28 19 121 6.3 61 0
**Team --- 404 220 2218 10.0 361 14
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
53 Hoosier OLB 73 34 0.0 1 1 0
51 Carroll OLB 73 23 10.5 7 1 13
59 Dotson ILB 73 33 0.0 0 0 6
42 Restifo S 70 21 0.0 1 1 13
33 O'Neal CB 62 18 0.0 0 2 7
38 Cook CB 60 26 1.0 0 1 9
31 Grier CB 48 11 0.0 0 0 19
65 Gaylor OLB 47 19 4.0 3 0 1
92 Mulcahy OLB 46 19 0.0 1 1 1
96 Buenavista DT 42 20 4.5 7 0 0
77 Brayshaw DE 41 13 4.5 10 0 0
36 Brewer CB 35 10 0.0 0 0 1
28 Kelley CB 30 8 0.0 1 2 1
78 Joyner DE 22 14 0.5 4 0 0
99 Van Brocklin OLB 21 3 0.0 0 0 2
93 Beyer ILB 20 12 1.0 1 1 1
86 Wynn TE 17 0 0.0 0 0 0
**Team --- 882 308 34.0 49 10 75
Let’s mention RB Norman Lucas first, whose season now ranks atop the best we have seen in this franchise’s history. Nicely done, son.
As for the rest of the offense – ouch. Richardson earns a 61 passer rating, none of our receivers amounted to much, and we were ranked last in every passing category. Ugh.
On defense, LB Deion Carroll stepped nicely into the SLB slot, and gave us a very solid season there – effective as a pass rusher, but don’t overlook the 13 passes defensed, either. CB Junior Grier stepped up and became a coverage standout, with a 20.6 PDPct despite not getting a single pick – that’s impressive. So, our defense turned out to be average, but was hampered by being on the field way too long.
Another tough season – perhaps it’s time for some re-thinking of our entire approach?
QuikSand
09-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Offseason Musings
What to do? What to do?
Should I install my Chesapeake offensive attack, and go to the air, despite not having very impressive personnel at QB and WR? We could start looking at a different sort of offensive linemen, and make that switch fairly quickly.
Should we go with some kind of novelty defensive scheme – maybe a 100/100 blitz package in most situations? Not something I do much of, but we just aren’t getting any pressure on the QB, and maybe that’s holding back our defense overall – more pressure presumably means more big plays, and at least some of them ought to go our way, right?
I am at a loss. Maybe the challenge rules are just too tough – and that posting an occasional 8-8 season is the “victory” I’m realistically shooting for. That wouldn’t be the end of the world – just a different sort of situation than where my FOF careers usually end up.
I don’t know…
MacroGuru
09-22-2005, 02:23 PM
Offseason Musings
What to do? What to do?
Should I install my Chesapeake offensive attack, and go to the air, despite not having very impressive personnel at QB and WR? We could start looking at a different sort of offensive linemen, and make that switch fairly quickly.
Should we go with some kind of novelty defensive scheme – maybe a 100/100 blitz package in most situations? Not something I do much of, but we just aren’t getting any pressure on the QB, and maybe that’s holding back our defense overall – more pressure presumably means more big plays, and at least some of them ought to go our way, right?
I am at a loss. Maybe the challenge rules are just too tough – and that posting an occasional 8-8 season is the “victory” I’m realistically shooting for. That wouldn’t be the end of the world – just a different sort of situation than where my FOF careers usually end up.
I don’t know…
Don't do 100/100 on the blitz....
I would say 65 - 70 but focus on blitzing the DB's get them in their, since they have the talent.
As for offense, keep the 2 TE set, it has been working for you.
Emiliano
09-22-2005, 03:56 PM
Hey Quik, I'm just checking in to say: great dynasty man! I really like you style and your dynasty's ideas. I loved "Taking The Lake Erie" and the greatest-ever "Magic Beans Challenge" (Mel Copeland, THE quarterback...).
Back to this one... My advice: keep going, obviously. I'm not a gameplan genius but I'd say: try to install your "air" offense, and let's see what it does.
QuikSand
09-23-2005, 11:01 AM
I think in the season ahead I am going to go with a heavier blitz package -- no, not an absurd 100/100, but something a little more heavy in getting after the passer.
As for the offense - it probably depends on the relative skill we end up with at WR. If we land a solid starter or two, I may shift to throwing the ball more.
QuikSand
09-23-2005, 01:21 PM
2017 season
We have only one retirement: LB Andrew Hoosier. His departure makes DT Wally Buenavista our position leader, and wipes out most of our affinities there. If Buenavista leaves (I’d have to cut him, he is signed for two more years), though, LB A.J. Mulcahy returns as leader, and that works better. So, we have options there to consider.
Here are the players who are out of contract:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Peck, Ed 43 RB 3 31 35 ---
Wynn, Dexter 86 TE 8 41 43 ---
Harmon, Drew 57 C 3 34 43 ---
Upshaw, Ray 58 C 5 33 42 ---
Shea, Billy Joe 68 RG 14 20 27 ---
Carpenter, Glenn 71 LT 3 26 36 ---
Shanabrough, Vincent 79 RDE 3 24 32 ---
Dotson, Walt 59 MLB 3 37 43 ---
Bolton, Graham 50 WLB 11 34 40 ---
Cook, Nolan 38 LCB 11 44 49 ---
Carlisle, Kyle 41 RCB 12 40 44 ---
Restifo, Tracy 42 SS 6 40 42 ---
Hill, Quentin 49 SS 3 16 27 ---
Nobody there, except Billy Joe Shea, we can’t live without. There’s always work to be done, of course, but we will at least try to put together a pretty good fleet this season. OL will be an obvious need spot – and I’m not happy with our group at WR, either. Getting some talent at WR might make me feel better about opening up the offense more.
In my efforts to round out the defensive front, I am thrilled with DT Thomas Bennett finally settles for our offer in the very last stage. Bennett was with us years ago – a nicely developed pass-rushing DT – and his re-signing after three seasons away is pretty exciting. He has never become the dominating pass rusher his skills suggest – but we will play him at DE and give him a chance to pin his ears back and go for it. Potentially an impact pick-up for us, on a three year deal.
So, we head to training camp with a few new faces. One more noteworthy addition is third year QB Richie Glenn. Decent ratings, but a void in both short passes and sensing the rush. Tough call – but he might be our starter this year, after last year’s debacle behind Richardson.
Regrettably, I didn’t pick up anyone terribly exciting at WR, so I really don’t feel like this team is ready to go to a more pass-intensive attack on offense. We will try to play more aggressively on defense and use more blitzes as well, but all told, I don’t know whether we can have much success passing the ball a lot.
I do, however, think we are shifting back to the 4-3 front this year. Our stock of LB has diminished, and I like some of our defensive linemen – so we will go back to that formation and try to add some blitzing from there, to put some more heat on the QBs.
After camp, we finally let go of QB Marcus Settles. He was the one guy who looked like he might have just enough talent to be a long-term starter for us at QB (but not so much that he would leave us to demand big bucks). Alas – we’ll never know, as he blew out his knee with an injury, and is now basically a waterboy.
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Richardson, Dale 7 QB 7 37 37 2 yrs
Frieswyk, Christian 10 QB 6 36 40 1 yr.
Glenn, Richie 9 QB QB 3 31 53 3 yrs
##Moll, Glenn 21 RB 12 34 34 1 yr.
Peck, Ed 43 RB 3 33 35 2 yrs
Lucas, Norman 44 RB RB 4 32 36 1 yr.
Conley, Sammie 27 RB 6 30 30 1 yr.
Flake, Lincoln 39 FB FB 12 36 38 1 yr.
Matson, Marco 81 TE TE 7 51 52 2 yrs
Droker, Horace 85 TE 7 45 45 2 yrs
**Robinson, Wesley 89 TE 6 39 42 3 yrs
Fee, Levon 11 FL FL 7 33 36 2 yrs
Handley, Gene 82 FL 4 33 44 1 yr.
Greenlee, Archie 84 SE SE 6 29 38 1 yr.
Samuels, Sedrick 14 SE 6 27 34 1 yr.
##Brownell, Nick 80 SE 2 25 38 1 yr.
Moss, Harvey 50 C C 3 22 50 3 yrs
Morris, Rufus 53 C 1 17 44 2 yrs
Watson, Louie 61 LG LG 3 32 49 3 yrs
Terry, Robert 73 LG RG 5 30 35 2 yrs
Clausen, Brant 75 LG 6 28 42 1 yr.
**Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 9 12 16 1 yr.
##Shea, Billy Joe 62 RG 14 20 27 1 yr.
Leskanic, Jeremy 72 LT LT 5 35 53 3 yrs
Bergler, Randal 63 LT RT 3 30 38 3 yrs
**McCarthy, Dwight 70 RT 7 43 51 1 yr.
Shaw, Julio 67 RT 4 23 44 2 yrs
Vecchio, Sammie 16 P 18 71 71 2 yrs
Blanchard, Shannon 15 K 7 44 51 2 yrs
Brayshaw, Rodney 77 LDE LDT 7 47 47 2 yrs
Taylor, Ernest 76 LDE LDE 5 32 42 2 yrs
##Joyner, Kim 78 RDE 2 31 41 1 yr.
Shanabrough, Vincent 79 RDE 3 27 32 3 yrs
Bennett, Thomas 94 LDT RDE 8 50 50 3 yrs
Wayne, Bert 64 LDT 4 41 45 1 yr.
Hardy, Phillip 97 RDT RDT 8 45 51 3 yrs
##Finch, Jamal 96 RDT 7 43 47 3 yrs
Gerber, Oscar 98 MLB MLB 7 40 46 3 yrs
Pierce, Daryl 95 MLB WLB 13 39 45 3 yrs
Beyer, Bucky 93 MLB 6 38 42 2 yrs
##Pinner, Oliver 56 MLB 11 32 32 2 yrs
Haag, Eric 90 SLB 7 36 38 3 yrs
Van Brocklin, Tim 99 SLB 14 34 38 2 yrs
Carroll, Deion 51 WLB SLB 8 42 45 2 yrs
Gaylor, Lee 65 WLB 6 39 43 2 yrs
Mulcahy, A.J. 92 WLB 11 28 34 2 yrs
Brewer, X-Man 36 LCB 4 47 47 1 yr.
O'Neal, Jackie 33 LCB RCB 7 46 47 2 yrs
Dosoo, Lenny 38 LCB 11 40 44 3 yrs
Grier, Junior 31 LCB LCB 14 39 39 1 yr.
Kelley, Mercury 28 LCB SS 8 36 37 2 yrs
##Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 12 14 15 2 yrs
Large, Rex 25 SS 4 36 40 3 yrs
Hill, Quentin 49 SS 3 18 27 1 yr.
Webster, Alvin 35 FS FS 6 35 39 1 yr.
McCarthy, Lonnie 40 FS 2 21 34 1 yr.
There is our post-camp roster – we’re in place for another campaign, and we will have new addition Richie Glenn at the helm, following a solid preseason. Back to a 4-3 front on defense, and we will hope to get 40+ QB sacks this year, a level we haven’t touched in several seasons. On offense, we want another good year rushing the ball, and want to again get over 2,000 yards rushing for the season.
Wins? I am hoping that we can be an 8-8 team, but honestly there’s wiggle room there, probably on both sides.
We win our opener (first in a while) despite giving up a kickoff return TD. Glenn and Lucas are both sharp in the win, which is clearly a key. An overtime win in week two gets us to 2-0, and feeling good so far. A rush of injuries and two losses quickly put that little euphoria to rest.
We look the part of an 8-8 club for a while, but then lose three straight and now appear to be a lower-tier team after all. We are only rushing for 3.5 yards a carry behind a battered line, and the defense, though playing well, just isn’t good enough to save us from this mess. I decide for our Week 10 bye, sitting at 3-6 on the season, that it’s time to open things up on offense – it can’t get meaningfully worse than this, and we’ll at least have a feel for whether this works better for us.
We suffer three close losses in the new setup – tough to draw any conclusions there. Another loss by 3 points makes it seem like fate. We end up a paltry 5-11, and really don’t manage to answer many questions, I don’t think.
Front Office Football 2004
2017 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 5-11
Winning Pct.: .312
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 437 23
Rushing Yards 1560 27
Yards Per Carry 3.56 29
Pass Attempts 495 24
Completions 304 22 (T)
Passing Yards 3520 22
Yards Per Attempt 7.11 21
3rd Down Conversions 42.3 19
Points Per Game 19.8 18 (T)
Turnovers 24 22 (T)
Turnover Margin +1 16 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 479 21
Rushing Yards 1719 9
Yards Per Carry 3.58 3 (T)
Pass Attempts 511 15 (T)
Completions 327 24 (T)
Passing Yards 3722 16
Yards Per Attempt 7.28 18
3rd Down Conversions 42.3 10
Points Per Game 21.8 20 (T)
Turnovers 25 12 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 20 CIN 14
2 30 at MIN 24
3 13 NED 14
4 10 TEN 20
5 20 at JAX 13
6 10 at HOU 13
7 13 at BAL 16
8 14 IND 23
9 17 PIT 31
11 16 at CIN 21
12 19 CHI 20
13 24 at DEN 27
14 31 DET 34
15 31 at PIT 24
16 21 at GBY 35
17 28 BAL 21
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
9 Glenn QB 428 257 3049 7.12 15 17
10 Frieswyk QB 42 29 304 7.23 1 1
**Team --- 495 304 3520 7.11 17 18
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
44 Lucas RB 322 1089 3.38 10
43 Peck RB 62 203 3.27 3
**Team --- 437 1560 3.56 15
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
82 Handley WR 102 60 825 13.7 82 3
11 Fee WR 86 54 702 13.0 74 3
84 Greenlee WR 81 43 576 13.3 104 0
81 Matson TE 46 33 282 8.5 60 3
85 Droker TE 42 26 226 8.6 48 2
44 Lucas RB 34 26 179 6.8 125 1
80 Brownell WR 45 26 341 13.1 33 4
14 Samuels WR 31 18 266 14.7 42 1
27 Conley RB 22 17 116 6.8 49 0
**Team --- 493 304 3520 11.5 618 17
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
98 Gerber ILB 95 32 1.0 1 2 7
25 Large S 89 36 2.0 0 0 7
35 Webster S 67 29 0.0 0 2 3
33 O'Neal CB 63 20 0.5 2 6 2
77 Brayshaw DE 59 32 1.5 6 0 0
95 Pierce ILB 58 17 1.5 2 1 1
31 Grier CB 53 15 1.0 0 3 19
51 Carroll OLB 51 20 1.0 4 0 5
36 Brewer CB 44 8 0.0 1 0 1
97 Hardy DT 43 22 3.5 4 0 2
78 Joyner DE 29 5 8.0 7 0 0
65 Gaylor OLB 27 4 0.0 3 0 1
92 Mulcahy OLB 23 14 1.0 1 0 1
94 Bennett DT 23 14 9.0 16 0 0
99 Van Brocklin OLB 22 6 1.0 0 1 1
38 Dosoo CB 21 3 0.0 1 0 0
28 Kelley CB 19 4 0.0 0 0 2
**Team --- 889 295 35.0 56 15 52
Regrettably, our pass defense dropped off a bit in the late season – we were on target for a top-ten finish against both the pass and run, which would have been great, considering our talent level. We posted 35 sacks on the year – an improvement, for certain, but still not enough to consider our pass rush very good. Bennett is good, though, so we have one piece of that puzzle for (hopefully) two more seasons.
Losing CB Junior Grier will be tough, and I suspect that our chances of re-signing X-Man Brewer are nil, as he has developed nicely as our nickelback these last few seasons.
On offense – another 1,000-yard season from RB Norman Lucas, giving him the #1 and #5 season marks for this team’s franchise and vaulting him to #2 on our career rushing leaderboard right behind Bert Robinson. A good fit for our system – and the big loser by our shift to a pass-heavy offense, I fear. And now, in all likelihood, he is gone – after his initial 2-yr deal has expired, someone will be sure to pay up for this productive back.
We have never had a 1,000-yard receiver on this team, in the time I have been in charge. Believe it or not, Gene Handley’s 825 yards this season is the highest mark we have seen, better than the two good years we got from Dallas Gaylor. This team has not posted big numbers in the passing game – so if we start emphasizing that aspect, we may have records to be broken easily.
This team’s offensive line yielded 48 sacks, and for most of the season we weren’t even passing very much – only 543 pass plays total. That is an unacceptable ratio, and if we’re going to try to pass the ball, we need to start picking up linemen who can be part of that approach. 9 sacks per starter (almost exactly how it played out) isn’t going to do the job.
Looking ahead – I suspect we will try to drift toward a pass-heavy attack, and see if that gets us anywhere better than here. I’m starting to think that the quality of players I had gotten used to in the early years of this challenge was in part a function of the initial player file – and now that things have settled down, there are fewer star tight ends sitting around playing for minsal – lessening my inclination to use them so heavily. Next season, we may try to pick up a few extra bodies at WR, and try to spread the field a bit more.
QuikSand
09-23-2005, 02:46 PM
Are you passing all of your picks off to the same team - Arizona? - every year? If so, I'd be interested to see if this has helped them considerably.
Well, after three straight playoff seasons, I note that Arizona let their starting Qb (my scout rates him 77/77, had a passer rating of 98 last season) become a free agent, and he is now sitting at the last stage of late free agency, begging for a $4m/yr deal (which he will not receive). Arizona instead signed a big dollar free agent stud -- no real complaints there, I suppose.
Now, someone out there will sign Aaron O'Neill (the old Arizona guy) to a one year minsal deal after training camp, and he will probably lead that team to the playoffs - then be cast off as a free agent once again. *sigh* Sometimes I hate the background AI in this game.
QuikSand
09-23-2005, 03:59 PM
2018 season
Offseason news: four retirements, led by long-time G Billy Joe Shea. He played in 118 games for us (66 starts) making him one of the true long-timers of this franchise – though there aren’t that many.
RB Glenn Moll and LB Tim Van Brocklin were guys who did multiple tours with us as well. LB Oliver Pinner never got much playing time – decent reserve, no great loss there.
These losses upend our affinity structure, but I think I’m focusing less and less on that as I go along here anyway. I will continue to avoid conflicts, but spending tons of time worrying about each affinity is too taxing.
Here is our list of players out of contract:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Frieswyk, Christian 10 QB 7 35 39 ---
Lucas, Norman 44 RB 5 32 36 ---
Conley, Sammie 27 RB 7 29 30 ---
Flake, Lincoln 39 FB 13 36 38 ---
Handley, Gene 82 FL 5 39 44 ---
Greenlee, Archie 84 SE 7 32 37 ---
Brownell, Nick 80 SE 3 28 33 ---
Samuels, Sedrick 14 SE 7 26 33 ---
Clausen, Brant 75 LG 7 29 42 ---
Hilgendorf, Steven 60 LG 10 12 15 ---
McCarthy, Dwight 70 RT 8 42 50 ---
Joyner, Kim 78 RDE 3 37 43 ---
Wayne, Bert 64 LDT 5 40 44 ---
Brewer, X-Man 36 LCB 5 48 48 ---
Grier, Junior 31 LCB 15 39 39 ---
Hill, Quentin 49 SS 4 18 27 ---
Webster, Alvin 35 FS 7 35 39 ---
McCarthy, Lonnie 40 FS 3 19 33 ---
Obviously, losing RB Lucas hurts, but we weren’t getting much done last year with a run-heavy offense, so we’re switching anyway – might as well look for a more versatile pass-catching back going forward.
Four wide receivers on the free agent list – wow. Any of them any good? Not really. We’ll find what we can out there – as we might be looking to spread the field and use three and four wide sets this year more than we have before. That might depend on the quality of our WRs and TEs, too. My best guess is that we’ll have Levon Fee and possibly Archie Greenlee to build around at the WR slots.
Real losses in the secondary – Junior Grier has been a solid three year starter, very reliable. I like X-Man Brewer a lot, but he, too, will certainly be gone now as well. We’ve plugged in guys with success back there before, so no real worries – just tough to lose two guys I counted on for a while.
We make our usual foraging through the free agent pool, and come up with our usual level of replacement players. Plenty of so-so guys, players with mixed skill sets, that sort of thing. I do grab a handful of rookie running backs, many with receiving skills, with an eye toward possibly moving some of them to play WR. All our veteran wideouts have been signed elsewhere – so as I get into the late stages of free agency, we have only Levon Fee to build around there.
A big WR signing for us is Willie Madison – who played with us back in 2014-15. He’s back on a three year deal, and will serve as our position leader –good to have some stability there, I think. We do manage to re-sign Nick Brownell, also – so we have three fairly proven guys on hand now, which seems better.
We stock up everywhere, including a ton of intriguing young guys at RB/WR, and get ourselves ready for training camp.
After training camp, I am intrigued to look at our young backs and receivers – we need to get some production from this lot right away. Butch Osborne will get a shot at some carries, and RB Reggie Cook might get some time in a utility role. I’m not wild about any of the wide receivers – flanker Terrell Bell is probably the best of that lot.
We will, however, be all set in the return game this season, after neglecting that area last year a bit much. CB Roman Dreher, a candidate for a starting job, is a standout kick returner and a capable punt returner, too. S Lonnie McCarthy returns as our primary PR option, but several of these young backs/receivers will be in the mix for those roles as well.
Here’s the lineup as we head into week one:
Cleveland Browns Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Glenn, Richie 9 QB QB 4 43 52 2 yrs
Frieswyk, Christian 10 QB 7 37 39 3 yrs
Richardson, Dale 7 QB 8 36 36 1 yr.
##Roberson, Rex 41 RB 6 33 35 3 yrs
Peck, Ed 43 RB 4 33 36 1 yr.
Cook, Reggie 34 RB 1 30 40 2 yrs
Osborne, Butch 20 RB RB 1 30 43 2 yrs
Flake, Lincoln 39 FB FB 13 33 35 3 yrs
Robbins, K.C. 83 TE 4 49 51 3 yrs
Matson, Marco 81 TE TE 8 47 49 1 yr.
##Droker, Horace 85 TE 8 43 43 1 yr.
##Robinson, Wesley 89 TE 7 31 35 2 yrs
Madison, Willie 84 FL FL 7 37 39 3 yrs
Fee, Levon 11 FL 8 33 36 1 yr.
Bell, Terrell 82 FL 1 24 37 2 yrs
##Tanner, Glenn 35 FL 1 22 45 2 yrs
##Morrison, Benjamin 88 FL 1 20 37 2 yrs
Brownell, Nick 80 SE SE 3 30 34 2 yrs
Moss, Harvey 50 C C 4 31 49 2 yrs
Morris, Rufus 53 C 2 21 45 1 yr.
Watson, Louie 61 LG LG 4 39 49 2 yrs
Terry, Robert 73 LG 6 29 35 1 yr.
Zimmerman, Billy Joe 74 RG RG 3 28 46 3 yrs
Leskanic, Jeremy 72 LT LT 6 41 53 2 yrs
Bergler, Randal 63 LT 4 29 36 2 yrs
Shaw, Julio 67 RT RT 5 29 43 1 yr.
Vecchio, Sammie 16 P 19 72 72 1 yr.
Blanchard, Shannon 15 K 8 45 51 1 yr.
Brayshaw, Rodney 77 LDE LDT 8 48 48 1 yr.
Taylor, Ernest 76 LDE LDE 6 34 43 1 yr.
Shanabrough, Vincent 79 RDE 4 31 32 2 yrs
Bennett, Thomas 94 LDT RDE 9 50 50 2 yrs
Wayne, Bert 64 LDT 5 41 44 3 yrs
Hardy, Phillip 97 RDT RDT 9 43 48 2 yrs
Finch, Jamal 96 RDT 8 38 44 2 yrs
Gerber, Oscar 98 MLB MLB 8 40 46 2 yrs
Beyer, Bucky 93 MLB 7 39 43 1 yr.
Pierce, Daryl 95 MLB WLB 14 34 40 2 yrs
Carroll, Deion 51 WLB SLB 9 42 46 1 yr.
Gaylor, Lee 65 WLB 7 39 44 1 yr.
Mueller, Dustin 54 WLB 5 35 43 3 yrs
Dineen, Oliver 59 WLB 5 32 51 3 yrs
Mulcahy, A.J. 92 WLB 12 26 32 1 yr.
O'Neal, Jackie 33 LCB 8 46 47 1 yr.
Lyon, Billy Joe 23 LCB LCB 6 40 40 3 yrs
Dosoo, Lenny 38 LCB 12 37 41 2 yrs
Kelley, Mercury 28 LCB FS 9 35 37 1 yr.
Dreher, Roman 29 RCB RCB 7 46 46 3 yrs
##Wohlabaugh, Dennis 45 RCB 13 13 13 1 yr.
Vosicky, Barry 46 SS SS 6 47 51 3 yrs
##Large, Rex 25 SS 5 37 41 2 yrs
Galloway, Oliver 37 SS 3 32 38 3 yrs
McCarthy, Lonnie 40 FS 3 21 33 3 yrs
The goals for this season are to see the offense come together a bit – we want to get increased effectiveness from the line in pass blocking, and to see us go for maybe 24 TD passes. On defense, we want to rack up 40 sacks, and stay among the best against the run. If we get both of those things, I think an 8 or 9 win season is certainly likely.
In our opener, we carry the ball 14 times for 19 yards against Pitsburgh, and lose the all-FG battle 5-1. Three turnovers were a huge part of an otherwise fairly even game. It’s a bit better in week two, but we still lose to Atlanta, and only put up 13 points, with our lone TD coming from the defense. Is it too soon to pull the plug on the air attack? Miami thrashes us (though we do finally score an offensive TD), and the season is starting to look like a total loss already.
Our offense is, by leaps and bounds, the worst in the league. Is thee any point in carrying on with this experiment? I just don’t think we have the personnel to get this job done – our line stinks, our receivers can’t catch or run routes, and our QB wouldn’t know what to do if they all did their jobs anyway. We are not just 0-3, we are a hopeless 0-3.
I decide to stick with the plan, and we settle in for more of the same. At 0-8, it’s pretty clear that this is just not working at all. We are halfway through the season, and we have one of the best run-stopping defenses in the league allowing only 3.3 yards per carry (2nd best). Despite this, we have hardly even come close to winning a single game – Glenn has thrown 6 TDs and 14 interceptions, and we have a horrifying –13 turnover ratio. We are going back to the run, and we will hope to scratch out a win or two from the defense – what we’re doing here just isn’t working at all.
Our first game with the focus back on the ground is, of course, a 24-20 win – but only over hapless Pittsburgh, whose only win so far has been against us anyway. Glenn did throw 33 times, so it’s not like we abandoned the passing game altogether – but we rushed 39 times for 110 yards on the day.
We are clearly a better team when we are playing not to lose on offense. We are competitive on our second half games, and manage to sneak all the way to 4-10. Now, 4-10 doesn’t sound very good, I know, but when you started out 0-8 and thought the odds were pretty good you’d go 0-16… 4-10 sounds like divine intervention. We even finish off with two more wins, bringing the season total to 6-10… but it was very clearly a story of two half-seasons. What might have been if we had started off with our conservative offensive game plan…
Front Office Football 2004
2018 Summary for Cleveland Browns
Record: 6-10
Winning Pct.: .375
Cleveland Browns Team Rank
Rushes 423 25
Rushing Yards 1561 28
Yards Per Carry 3.69 27
Pass Attempts 529 14
Completions 297 26
Passing Yards 3428 27
Yards Per Attempt 6.48 27
3rd Down Conversions 46.6 8
Points Per Game 16.3 27 (T)
Turnovers 28 20 (T)
Turnover Margin -5 20
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes 469 20 (T)
Rushing Yards 1692 8
Yards Per Carry 3.60 2
Pass Attempts 537 22
Completions 321 16
Passing Yards 3749 15
Yards Per Attempt 6.98 11
3rd Down Conversions 42.9 19
Points Per Game 20.0 11
Turnovers 23 21
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 3 at PIT 15
2 13 ATL 16
3 14 at MIA 30
5 17 DEN 20
6 27 OAK 34
7 7 at SDO 15
8 6 at KCY 38
9 10 at BAL 27
10 24 PIT 20
11 22 CIN 7
12 7 at NOS 21
13 20 TEN 28
14 17 CAR 13
15 38 BAL 10
16 17 at TBY 14
17 20 at CIN 13
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int
9 Glenn QB 526 296 3426 6.51 15 20
**Team --- 529 297 3428 6.48 15 20
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD
20 Osborne RB 273 1006 3.68 6
43 Peck RB 54 170 3.14 2
34 Cook RB 43 213 4.95 1
**Team --- 423 1561 3.69 9
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc YAC TD
80 Brownell WR 121 63 868 13.7 88 5
84 Madison WR 113 61 784 12.8 155 2
81 Matson TE 47 31 298 9.6 76 1
11 Fee WR 61 31 387 12.4 65 3
82 Bell WR 67 31 435 14.0 49 1
83 Robbins TE 34 22 229 10.4 54 1
41 Roberson RB 23 16 106 6.6 41 0
**Team --- 528 297 3428 11.5 621 15
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn
65 Gaylor OLB 80 18 2.0 0 1 14
29 Dreher CB 72 23 0.0 0 3 13
59 Dineen OLB 68 22 1.0 0 0 4
46 Vosicky S 65 21 0.0 1 2 14
23 Lyon CB 63 19 0.0 0 2 12
77 Brayshaw DE 60 30 1.5 4 0 0
97 Hardy DT 55 26 6.0 7 0 0
33 O'Neal CB 54 23 0.0 1 3 9
95 Pierce ILB 48 21 0.0 3 0 2
38 Dosoo CB 37 9 0.0 1 3 2
94 Bennett DT 29 11 5.5 14 0 1
98 Gerber ILB 28 12 3.0 0 0 1
92 Mulcahy OLB 27 7 3.0 0 0 1
76 Taylor DE 22 5 0.5 9 0 0
37 Galloway S 19 6 0.0 0 0 1
54 Mueller OLB 18 8 1.5 5 0 1
**Team --- 863 287 27.0 57 15 80
Well, congratulations to WR Nick Brownell – who, despite very pedestrian skill ratings, has topped our franchise list for receiving yards in a season. He’s signed for two more seasons, but this year (with the pass-happy first half season) was probably the best opportunity for WR totals we’re going to see here in Cleveland.
QB Glenn was 9 TD/6 Int in the second half – so I guess there is some hope after all. Next season, we likely lose WR Fee, but everyone else at the skill positions is back – so who knows?
The line, it turns out, allowed 47 sacks – again, way too many. Not sure if there’s any way around this under these rules – we just don’t get good play from the OL, period.
Defensively – we did stop the run very nicely. DE Brayshaw is a key run stopper playing from a DT slot, and makes a huge difference for us up front. At 3.6 yards per carry – we were even better at stopping the run than our offense was bad at running the ball! w00t!
CB Dreher doesn’t make interceptions, but he has proven to be very valuable – a return man, starting-caliber corner, and helps out in the run defense, too. He and Lyon ought to be a pretty solid starting tandem at CB for us the next couple of seasons.
DL Bennett and Hardy both chipped in toward a pass rush, but we are still short of where I wanted to be – I really think we need to get to about 40 sacks and 80 hurries to truly be effective there – and we aren’t even close, obviously.
Well – I guess the noble experiment with the all-out offense was a dud, at least with this personnel. I am starting to think that maybe we ought to try playing with an offensive line entirely of guys who have basically no skill. In theory, they might re-sign for minsal even after getting full time PT, and I might be able to build up some actual cohesion there, which seems to really matter a lot. Tough to say, but it probably couldn’t be much worse than what we are getting from the guys we keep rotating in.
Oh, well.
Barkeep49
09-23-2005, 11:39 PM
I think other challenges of yours has shown the value of cohesion in FOF. That simply is lacking here and is, I think, your biggest obstacle. Now I admit I don't know a ton about cohesion, but what if you signed guys to 2 year contracts, making them basically back-ups, and then resigning them for 2 years as starters. Rinse and repeat. Would that improve your cohesion at all?
QuikSand
09-24-2005, 07:43 AM
Thinking about cohesion, the problem here is that is really doesn't take much of anything to give a player an idea that he is worth slightly more than minimum salary. I have given up detailing all the solid-looking players in free agency who would be great signings, but who demand something like $80,000 or $120,000 in bonus, and that difference makes them completely uinsiognable by us under these rules. So, I am routinely signing guys who are marginal players at best to 2 or 3 year deals... and most of them, even the guys who don't get a lot of playing time (my 4th or 5th WR, my 5th or 6th DB, my 7th or 8th LB) end up asking for a little bit more in their next contract. It just doesn't look like I could really count on getting the same guys back for a second straight contract (and thereby boosting cohesion) unless I resort to players who have practically no measurable skills at all. And at that point, I'd be trying to win basically with nothing but cohesion.
Maybe there is a middle ground -- I speculated about trying to have a "base" of players who would be no-talent long termers, and then seed in a few decent players around them. Maybe the OL or DL would be a good place to try this. Sign a few guy with no skill but who would re-sign, build cohesion, and presumably contribute toward affinities -- if I had three or four such guys at OL and three or four such guys on the D7, that might help things along, without killing us in overall talent. Maybe... a little extra work, but it might be the only way to win here.
QuikSand
09-30-2005, 08:16 AM
I suspect that I am done with this challenge... but wanted to post a few wrap-up notes.
Basically, after all these years, I still don't have a truly winning team. A few decent seasons on the books, but basically we are a mediocre club who occasionally becomes a modest contender. Maybe we're the Arizona Cardinals?
Anyway -- when I lost steam about a week ago, my thinking was that the next thing to try was some sort of cohesion-building. I had speculated about this a while, but the idea would be to (at least at a couple position groups) pick up several fairly young players with almost no talent, who had a strong affinity connection -- and to keep them around as our backups for a long period. In time, we would presumably have pretty good cohesion at those position groups, rather than the lousy ratings I have had in this career resulting from the constant churn of players. WIth a better cohesion foundation, maybe the marginal talents on this team could come together and play better than what we've seen from the (basically) best-talent-available approach that I have been using (with elements of affinity sprinkled in, but not the central theme).
I'm guessing this is the last possible angle to use to try to generate a consistent winner in this system -- and other than that, it becomes something of a lottery. If you get lucky and get a few good players at key positions, especially ones who "ripen" at about the same time, then you can put together a pretty decent team for a season or two. But it seems like it realy takes luck to do so. Either that, or I have just exhausted my roster-building and game-planning skills... and someone else might be able to do a better job with one or both components there.
My best guess right now is that a run-heavy attack is probably the best way to go... but personnel probably dictates the proper balance. I don't think you can really build up much talent on the OL -- so I suspect getting one-dimensional guys is better overall, necessitating an offensive slant one way or the other. That does, however, make it tough to switch the focus from year to year.
Very difficult challenge -- I don't think I have ever playd a career this long that didn't end up with championship rings (or an arrow pretty clearly pointing that direction) or even consistent winning seasons. The thing remaining is to determine whether my decision-making truly had a big impact on the team. I am wondering if that's true, really -- maybe this, in effect, just becomes another "lottery" game where any reaosnable effort gets you 5-7 wins, and getting past that is more a function of luck (getting a few good key players who accept your contract offers - which is essentially out of your control) than anything else.
Tough to say... but I submit this as one tough challenge concept for those who might be looking to fiddle around, and are interested in a difficult set of rules.
QuikSand
02-09-2006, 10:22 AM
I think I am going to start another MinSal team, and use this as a vehicle to try to spend more time on gameplanning. By necessity of the limits of this system, you end up with a lot of "best I can do" type guys on the team -- so it might call for some investment of time in the offensive and defensive schemes to make it work well at all.
I enjoyed this the first time through... and I expect I'll go a bit more slowly this time, to try to squeeze what I can learn out of gameplanning this thing more thoroughly than I usually do.
Cotton
02-09-2006, 10:35 AM
This is a fun thread, QuikSand. Sounds a lot like my own pet project SP team, the Utah Bees. Salt Lake City has a small stadium, so my challenge was to consistantly make money for the team every year, which involves a lot of minimum salary players. The team started with almost 75% first and second year players and is now in its 20th season and I haven't gotten fired yet!
I'd love to find an MP league for the Bees someday. I may just have to start one.
Thanks for the insight.
QuikSand
03-07-2010, 07:30 PM
I wonder if this idea might have some legs again with the game under 6.3a. If you really can gameplan a bit more intuitively toward your roster strengths, maybe you can build an adequate or better team around the sort of guys you can get for minsal (lots of guys with just a few useful skills).
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