Congrats to Duke. First win over FSU.

FSU is 1-6 for the season.

Give Tony Hinchcliffe a live mic on Gameday.

What could POSSIBLY go wrong? lol

I'm not saying Brent Venables should be fired, but he probably should not be the head coach of Oklahoma past this season.

I'm not saying Brent Venables should be fired, but he probably should not be the head coach of Oklahoma past this season.

He's not a good coach.

He's not a good coach.


Some guys are just great coordinators.

Coastal Carolina hosted Louisiana this afternoon. Through a quirk in Sun Belt scheduling they hadn't played in four seasons. LA was 5-1 coming into the game. Offense was bad from the start leading to a QB change early on, which seemed to spark the team. However the defense was not good, but in the 4th quarter we were down by only 3 but defense wasn't up to the task and Coastal loses 34-24. :(

Vols stadium full of orange is impressive.

Vols up 14-10 with 1 min left in 3Q.

Vols are playing inspired so far.

I'm not sure who should be in the top 10, but I'm comfortable saying neither Alabama or Tennessee are top 10 teams.

I'm not sure who should be in the top 10, but I'm comfortable saying neither Alabama or Tennessee are top 10 teams.

This year, I'm not sure if there's anything more than a top one or two that matters much. And THAT feels like I'm being unreasonably optimistic.

edit: my actual point, before posting before finishing it, was that one of them MIGHT be among the 10 best in the country, but that doesn't necessarily require being all that good either.

If Bama loses this game, after that weird 4th and 22 call, DeBoer is going to get roasted.

If Bama loses this game, after that weird 4th and 22 call, DeBoer is going to get roasted.

If Williams makes his block, it just mighta worked tho.

Bama is 0 for Tennessee.

I know there were a lot of penalties, but thought both played tough. Congrats Vols.

Going to be a long night for the Hogs. Outplayed, out muscled by the Tigers right now.

If Georgia can pull off a win tonight, the Tennessee-Georgia game is going to be big. Even if Georgia loses, that game is going to be vital for Tennessee.

Eat a dick DeBoer.

hope you end up at FIU.

Carson Beck, man.

Georgia has a lead. STOP THE COUNT! Georgia could have the win now if Mike Pence has the guts.

Georgia has a lead. STOP THE COUNT! Georgia could have the win now if Mike Pence has the guts.


Those false electors from Texas might have something to say here

Fun little fact someone caused me to dig up.

Last time Bama lost to both Vandy & UT in the same season was 1984.
And 1969. As well as 56, 55, 51, 50

The last time Bama beat UT in a season they lost to Vandy was 1947.

Not counting Bama-Vandy tie years (there are several) When Bama loses to Vandy they also lose to UT six times in a row and counting.

Dawgs defense doing great!

Daylen Everette with a strip sack and fumble recovery, then an interception. DPOW lock.

Will we see Archie 2H if Texas hasn’t scored by halftime?

Georgia's defense this year hasn't been near as good as it has been. This defense tonight is looking every bit of 21-22.

Let’s see if I got this right …

AR > TN > AL > GA > TX

Will we see Archie 2H if Texas hasn’t scored by halftime?


Archie Manning is reportedly warming up on the sidelines. That sucks. I was glad he wasn't starting.

As much as Beck makes bad decision at times, his receivers do not help him at all. He has to have more catchable passes not caught than any other quarterback.

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If you would have told me that Beck with throw two picks and Georgia would be up at halftime 23-0, I would say you are on drugs.

Daylen Everette with a strip sack and fumble recovery, then an interception. DPOW lock.


Maybe not a lock:
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Jalon Walker is the first player in the last 20 years with 3 sacks and 7 tackles in a game against the AP No. 1 team.

He did it in the first half.

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Hogs have no answers.

Stay classy, Texas.

OMG. It was a bad call. But reversing that after the fans where throwing things on the field? You are rewarding fans bad behavior. Disagree with a call? Then just throw things on the field till the refs overturn it. This crew should be fired.

SEC office let the refs know the game has to get closer, not the other way!

The rest of the SEC definitely going to learn the proper lesson from this incident.

SEC office let the refs know the game has to get closer, not the other way!
The SEC office also called and told them not to reward the obvious TD. This is getting ridiculous.

Why are running backs still allowed to lead with the crown of their helmet? I'm not saying it was not targeting by the GA player that was ejected but the collision was crown of the helmet to crown of the helmet.

Now they are going to throw the Georgia defensive backs out of the game one at a time till Texas wins.

What a stupid call there. Shotgun?

Wow, Florida killed Kentucky.

Pulled it off, and by two scores. The pass rush that has been mostly silent this season came alive tonight. They beat those two NFL first round tackles like they owed them money.

The second half was how I expected the whole game to go. Texas just dug themselves too big of a hole in the first half.

Kirby Smart "They tried to rob us with calls in this place...". That'll be a fine. I don't think he cares.

Congrats to the Dawgs. The disrespect has stopped (for now).

Condolences to the Hogs. We got whupped fair and square.

And congrats to the Vols. Good to see the Tide humbled.

Man, the schedule doesn't get any easier for Texas. Next week they play the Vandy in Nashville. :)

lol

Three 2 loss teams in the top 25.

All of them from the SEC.

lol

Three 2 loss teams in the top 25.

All of them from the SEC.Is there a different 2 loss team like Nebraska or Colorado you'd prefer? Vandy is a bit much and 1 loss Syracuse and UNLV have a beef there, in a normal year maybe Ole Miss wouldn't deserve it yet but I'm not up in arms about them, there simply aren't 25 good teams in the country. Alabama unquestionably is one, kinda shocked TBH they dropped them all the way to 15 but they'll be in unless they lose 4 games.

#26 Washington State is the other one getting a weird amount of love. Those Washington and Texas Tech wins look a lot worse after this week, I don't see a path to the playoff for them anymore unless Tech and Boise win out, but ESPN's playoff predictor has them at 13% (23rd). Idk how accurate that one is, it also has Army at a 25% chance but Navy somewhere below 12%, seems like both of them should be near identical with big games left vs Notre Dame and each other (possibly 2x)

I'm going to love the playoff games, but I can't wait for the freak outs when people realize the 4 and maybe 3 seed are going to double digit dogs after their bye week. People will get the chance to yell about SEC bias when 5 of them make the playoff, but unless the committee lines up the seeds good chance 3 make the semi's. #5 is the cakewalk seed, #6 doesn't seem too far off depending on your opinion of Miami and Clemson right now.

Come on.

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Come on.

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Took me a minute but good lord things are going to get dumb.

Big Ten legend O.J. Simpson...

Big Ten legend O.J. Simpson...

I will never accept Bill Walton as part of the Big 10.

I thought about not doing my playoff picture that I've been doing, since I've seen it around somewhere else, but I'm going to do mine a little differently than "the highest AP ranked team in each conference" I'm going to use the conference standings instead, with highest rank as a tiebreaker.

1. Oregon
2. LSU
3. Miami
4. Iowa State

5. Georgia
12. Boise State

6. Penn State
11. BYU

7. Ohio State
10. Clemson

8. Texas
9. Tennessee

First few out: 6-1 Notre Dame, 7-0 Indiana, 6-1 Texas A&M, 5-2 Alabama, 6-1 Kansas State

Changes: Alabama drops out, BYU jumps Notre Dame despite needing a comeback win to barely beat Oklahoma State and gets in. I think I saw a headline that someone "forgot" to rank Notre Dame, maybe that's why.

By Conference: SEC 4, B1G 3, ACC 2, B12 2, MW 1

In the SEC, LSU and Texas A&M are the only undefeated teams. I put LSU in since they're higher ranked of the two. If you assume Georgia is the strongest SEC team, LSU would still be in as an at-large. A&M is in a slightly more interesting spot since they're out of the top 12 now, but you have to assume they are in if they keep winning.

Army and Navy stayed at 23 and 25, but Boise State fell from 15 to 17, getting passed by Kansas State and Indiana. So they made progress. Liberty has maybe become a bit more of a threat, though, moving up to a tie for 30. Although, they actually went down from 2 points to 1 point, and the fact that they moved up is because there was more consolidation in the voting (i.e. less other teams received votes).

I will never accept Bill Walton as part of the Big 10.

It will be fun the next time the make the All-Time Big Ten team and it is Jerry Lucas and four players from UCLA.

ESPN outlines wild scenario for ACC in College Football Playoff (https://www.on3.com/news/espn-outlines-break-glass-in-case-of-emergency-scenario-for-acc-in-college-football-playoff-race/)

“I want to see win out right now for Clemson, and then I want to see win out for SMU, because both those teams could be 11-1 with losses in the non-conference,” McElroy said.

Using ESPN’s Playoff Predictor, host Rece Davis input those scenarios and noted that meant Clemson “almost certainly” would be the team finding itself in the ACC title game. SMU would be left out.

He used a playoff predictor to determine who would be in the title game? Wouldn't it make more sense to use the tiebreakers?

ESPN outlines wild scenario for ACC in College Football Playoff (https://www.on3.com/news/espn-outlines-break-glass-in-case-of-emergency-scenario-for-acc-in-college-football-playoff-race/)



He used a playoff predictor to determine who would be in the title game? Wouldn't it make more sense to use the tiebreakers?

I imagine he did. The scenario seems to assume that Miami -- who doesn't play either Clemson or SMU -- also wins out, and that they would get the other spot instead of SMU by virtue of either the 4th or 5th tiebreaker

I imagine he did. The scenario seems to assume that Miami -- who doesn't play either Clemson or SMU -- also wins out, and that they would get the other spot instead of SMU by virtue of either the 4th or 5th tiebreaker

Right - agree on the scenario, but I don't understand what the playoff predictor has to do with figuring out how the tiebreaker would get resolved.

Right - agree on the scenario, but I don't understand what the playoff predictor has to do with figuring out how the tiebreaker would get resolved.

Perhaps because the #5 tiebreaker for the ACC is a private 3rd party "team rating" metric.

Seems reasonable enough, absent the actual methodology that outside entity would use, to use another computer formula that ranks teams based on various criteria (i.e. the playoff predictor)

As I feared with his latest head iniury, Coastal Carolina and current NC State QB Grayson McCall has had to retire from football. Very sad

Kennesaw State 27, Liberty 24

Hogs favored over Mississippi State.

One of the supposedly easy wins, key step to becoming 6-6 bowl eligible. If we choke, I'm going to be really depressed.

I'm also surprisingly interested in ND vs Navy. Hope the midshipmen's put up a great game.

Hopefully Navy creams ND.

Both defenses are being shredded (Mississippi failed on a fourth down on Hogs 30) but the Hogs offense is a tad better with a 17-7 score in 1Q.

Hopefully Navy creams ND.

Well, so much for that.

Kennesaw State 27, Liberty 24

One of the cool parts of this story is that the Kennesaw State coach has apparently been there since the inception of football 10 years ago.

Hogs stop another 4th down try at the 1 yard line. We stopped 4 runs in a row.

The Bulldogs need to stop pushing their luck. It’d be 24-13 instead of 24-7 right now.

Well, so much for that.

Probably a preview of whatever #12 seeded sacrificial lamb gets sent to Athens, Eugene, Columbus, Austin, etc. to get slaughtered by the #5 seed in the first round of the playoffs.

Probably a preview of whatever #12 seeded sacrificial lamb gets sent to Athens, Eugene, Columbus, Austin, etc. to get slaughtered by the #5 seed in the first round of the playoffs.

Boise would put up a fight.

Do these refs know this is tOSU they are dealing with

Do these refs know this is tOSU they are dealing with

I don't think you could find a team that has been boned more by targeting calls than Ohio State. It's a meme.

Since West Virginia has been so mediocre, I have been following and rooting for Indiana and BYU the past few weeks. After today, how much more will Indiana need to do to get into he playoffs? Their last 4 games are @Michigan St, vs Michigan, @Ohio St, and then vs Purdue.

Do 2 more wins get them in?

I guess the Big Ten's championship is just the top 2 conference records this year. Indiana (5 wins), Oregon (4), and Penn St (3) are all still undefeated and then Wisconsin (3), Illinois (3), and Ohio St (2) have 1-loss. Seems almost certain that the two championship participants will be in the playoffs and then certainly 1 and probably 2 other at-large teams.

Since West Virginia has been so mediocre, I have been following and rooting for Indiana and BYU the past few weeks. After today, how much more will Indiana need to do to get into he playoffs? Their last 4 games are @Michigan St, vs Michigan, @Ohio St, and then vs Purdue.

Do 2 more wins get them in?

I guess the Big Ten's championship is just the top 2 conference records this year. Indiana (5 wins), Oregon (4), and Penn St (3) are all still undefeated and then Wisconsin (3), Illinois (3), and Ohio St (2) have 1-loss. Seems almost certain that the two championship participants will be in the playoffs and then certainly 1 and probably 2 other at-large teams.

I don't have a good answer but 2 losses might just get them in. It makes no sense that they're ranked at 13. That's a top 5 team. Cignetti is a wizard.

Okay, I can relax now. Looks like Hogs will go up 5-3. Four more games but the one with LA Tech should be a gimme. Bowling here we come!

This season will probably save Sam’s job.

I haven't seen the Buckeyes penalized against the Gophers since Zubaz were in

I haven't seen the Buckeyes penalized against the Gophers since Zubaz were in

Maybe this is a confirmation bias thing. Last year Minnesota had 1 for 15 yards. Ohio State had 5 for 43.

Oregon Bumblebees

Isn't it the ref's job to run in and put his body in between the defender and the QB in order to make sure he is hit like that in the Alabama game? The ref looked like he did not hear the whistle either.

I gave up on the 3:30 games because it didn't look like any where going to be that interesting, and then Texas only beat Vandy by 3. I'm pretty sure it was 21-7 when I stopped watching. Looked like Texas was going to cruise.

I don't know why it is so fun to watch Brian Kelly lose games, but it is.

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The guy who was coaching Duke football this time last year has Texas A&M leading the SEC with a 5-0 record.

Hogs are currently 9.5 pt underdog to Ole Miss next week. After our disastrous outing vs LSU couple weeks ago, not going to complain. But yeah, I think the Hogs can beat any Top 15-25 team on a good day.

Next week's marquee game is #4 OSU vs #3 Penn State. Also, secretly hoping Michigan plays well against #1 Oregon.

I noticed something yesterday. Youtube TV multiview works different based on devices. I usually watch my slate of Saturday games on my desktop, with the games on one screen and whatever video game I am playing on the other. There are rarely any multiview options at noon, a couple at 3:30, and a couple at 7:30. The only option on desktop are the preset multiview. For that reason, I usually just tab the games and have to thumb through the tabs to keep up with them all.
While I was watching yesterday, I started smoking a tri tip (first time. 10/10 highly recommend) and I started watching the games on my phone. Many more multiview options on my phone. I eventually just went out and sat with the smoker with my beer and the games. I went and got my Ipad, and again had more multiview options. I felt cheated by how little options I get with my desktop. Then last night I started watching with my Roku tv, low and behold you can actually pick the games to add to multiview on the Roku. Now I need to figure out how to either connect Roku to my spare monitor, or mount a TV over my desktop. It sort of pisses me off that you don't get full function on all devices.

Hogs are currently 9.5 pt underdog to Ole Miss next week. After our disastrous outing vs LSU couple weeks ago, not going to complain. But yeah, I think the Hogs can beat any Top 15-25 team on a good day.

Next week's marquee game is #4 OSU vs #3 Penn State. Also, secretly hoping Michigan plays well against #1 Oregon.
It looks like Oregon should cruise to the B1G championship game. That Penn State game will probably determine who they will play unless Indiana is for real and beats OSU in a couple of weeks.

In the SEC it looks like A&M has a pretty easy path till they face Texas. That game will probably determine who will go to the Championship game. Those Championship games look to be pretty consequential. The winners will most likely get a two week Bi for a bowl close to campus, and the losers are going to have to play the next week and quite possibly on the road.

Breaking news out of Vegas, BYU opens their bye week as 3 point dogs to Bye. Nothing new to see here :cool:

I don't have a good answer but 2 losses might just get them in. It makes no sense that they're ranked at 13. That's a top 5 team. Cignetti is a wizard.

I'd love to see them make it, but I'm concerned that 1 loss kicks them out.

Jack Tuttle: Michigan QB retires from football, citing concussions – the second college QB to do so in less than a week | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/28/sport/jack-tuttle-retires-university-of-michigan-concussions/index.html)

It's been a special season for Indiana fans. To be honest, I'd come to believe I would never see a season like this. I'm just trying to savor it. I haven't said much this season because I didn't want to jinx things. Love this team.

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Best of fortune, Kodos. I'll be rooting for IU. The schedule looks promising, but there is probably some butt-clenching in your future lol

I haven't heard this much buzz around the football team on the IU campus since Bill Mallory was the coach.

(Yes, I'm that old. I just got my 25 year service award last week...and I was a freshman at IU in 1989.)

I haven't heard this much buzz around the football team on the IU campus since Bill Mallory was the coach.

(Yes, I'm that old. I just got my 25 year service award last week...and I was a freshman at IU in 1989.)

I was never on campus but the season after the COVID year they started the season ranked and the fan base at large thought they were headed for a possible B1G Championship with Penix back at QB. They fell on their face pretty early in that season though.

For the last 20 years or so, IU had to wait to take those full-stadium promotional photos until we hosted Ohio State. Ohio State fans traveling was the only reason we even came close to filling out Memorial Stadium...and the colors are close enough that you can't tell from a distance.

Playoff picture:

1. Oregon
2. Miami
3. BYU
4. Texas A&M

5. Georgia
12. Boise State

6. Penn State
11. Clemson/Iowa State

7. Ohio State
10. Notre Dame

8. Texas
9. Tennessee

First few out: 6-1 Clemson/7-0 Iowa State, 8-0 Indiana, 6-2 Alabama (I've just been going down to the teams above Boise State FYI)

Changes: BYU overtakes Iowa State in the rankings to represent the Big 12. Iowa State only half drops out -- they are tied with Clemson for the last spot. Texas A&M goes from out to getting a bye as the only undefeated SEC team. LSU drops from getting a bye to completely out. One of Clemson or Iowa State drops out, and Notre Dame takes their spot.

By Conference: SEC 4, B1G 3, ACC 1.5, Big 12 1.5, Mountain West 1, Independents 1

Boise State at #15 has the last conference champion spot. Behind them are 7-0 Army at #21, and 7-1 Washington State at #22. There's also #27 Memphis, #28 Tulane, #29 Navy, #32 UNLV, and #34 Louisiana.

Some notes: Notre Dame, being ranked #8 is one spot ahead of #9 BYU -- so if Notre Dame were considered to be in a conference, they would get a bye. Although, if that conference was the SEC, B1G or ACC, they wouldn't be the top team in it, so maybe not. Also, Texas A&M gets a bye as SEC champion, but if they weren't champion, they'd still be in as an at-large, ranked #10, between ND and Clemson/Iowa State.

Yeah, somebody’s going to have to do something with the Big 12…

I haven't heard this much buzz around the football team on the IU campus since Bill Mallory was the coach.

(Yes, I'm that old. I just got my 25 year service award last week...and I was a freshman at IU in 1989.)

Me too. I was in Wright Quad. Where were you?

Me too. I was in Wright Quad. Where were you?

I was a townie. My parents moved to Bloomington in 1980, so I never stayed in the dorms. (Then I got married, had a couple of kids, worked for a couple of years, then finally got serious and finished up my undergrad in 1998.)

The longer one can stay in Bloomington the better.

I know it doesn't matter because they play each other, but I don't understand how Ohio State is so far ahead of Indiana. IU is undefeated and Ohio State is not. From their common opponent Nebraska, Ohio State squeaked by while Indiana absolutely slaughtered them.

Bias. Schools with pedigrees are always going to get a leg up on schools that have no history of success. Luckily, they will get a shot on the field to prove the doubters wrong.

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I know it doesn't matter because they play each other, but I don't understand how Ohio State is so far ahead of Indiana. IU is undefeated and Ohio State is not. From their common opponent Nebraska, Ohio State squeaked by while Indiana absolutely slaughtered them.

tOSU has a one point loss to #1.

Indiana hasn't played anybody with much of a pulse.

They'll get a chance for that to sort itself out.

tOSU has a one point loss to #1.

Indiana hasn't played anybody with much of a pulse.

They'll get a chance for that to sort itself out.

Nebraska is #39 in the composite rankings and Indiana was convincing. It looks like Cignetti knows what he's doing. But, yeah, a league-low .240 in-conference strength of schedule and a bottom-five out-of-conference schedule.

Michigan will be their biggest challenge of the season in a couple of weeks, and they don't even have a quarterback now that former Hoosier Tuttle has retired. They could go into Columbus undefeated without having even faced a legitimate top-25 team.

Nebraska is #39 in the composite rankings

That number and "not having a pulse" are not mutually exclusive in college football at this point.

Yeah, there was one that I saw that was pretty flagrant.

The punishments seem severe enough so hopefully most of the BS will stop. But suspect there'll still be some at critical moments.

Is the SEC alone in this?

Punishments laid out in Sankey's memo include the following: for the first offense, a head coach receives a public reprimand and a $50,000 fine; for the second offense, another reprimand and a $100,000 fine; for a third offense, another reprimand and the coach will be suspended for his program's next game.

Any staff member found to be involved in signaling or directing a player to feign an injury will face the same measures, including financial penalties and a suspension. A player cited for feigning an injury also may be subject to a public reprimand.

This might be Ryan Day's last big loss. He won't survive spending this much NIL money and not getting to the playoffs.

That or Penn State will turn out to be what they always are, just that step below.

What a big turnover.

What a big turnover.


Part two. Two crazy turnovers in the endzone for both teams.

Hogs not doing great. Time to switch channels.

Miami's defense will be their undoing, even if they come back to win this.

Penn State is going to come up short again.

Nice finish for Miami. After going down 28-17 early in the 3rd, they've now outscored Duke 36-3.

Vandy has a 10 point lead on Auburn. I love that Vandy having such a good year.

Dear lord. The state of Big10 officiating is worse than the PAC-12 was, and I didn’t think such a thing was remotely possible.

Vandy has a 10 point lead on Auburn. I love that Vandy having such a good year.


Vandy wins! First time ever winning in Auburn, and they are bowl eligible earlier than they probably have been in decades.

Got taken to the woodshed.

But happy the Hogs QB2 got some good playing time.

Vandy wins! First time ever winning in Auburn, and they are bowl eligible earlier than they probably have been in decades.

Nov 16th in 2013, Nov 10th in 2012. That's win #6 early dates most recently.

The earliest they've clinched a .500 regular season looks like 1955 when they got their 5th win of a 10 game season on Nov 5th.

Nov 16th in 2013, Nov 10th in 2012. That's win #6 early dates most recently.

The earliest they've clinched a .500 regular season looks like 1955 when they got their 5th win of a 10 game season on Nov 5th.
I was completely guessing that was true, but it felt like a safe guess.

- Hugh Freeze's 2022 Liberty: 49-14 L against Diego Pavia's NMSU
- Freeze's 2023 Auburn: 31-10 L against Pavia's NMSU
- Freeze's 2024 Auburn: 17-7 L against Pavia's Vanderbilt

Hilarious

Those two picks are totally on Beck. Can't explain it away. He just is being reckless.

Those two picks are totally on Beck. Can't explain it away. He just is being reckless.

The 2nd one was really bad. Pressured a bit, threw into two defenders off his back foot. 2-3 UF guys had a better shot at the ball than any Georgia receiver.

Just for those who wonder about such things ... the 10 interceptions thrown by Carson Beck this season (in 7.5 games so far) is the most by a UGA quarterback since Aaron Murray threw 10 picks in 14 games back in 2012.

At his current pace Beck would likely pass Murray's 14 picks in 2011 and have a good shot at Joe Cox 15 back in 2010 ... and he'd have a pretty good shot at Mike Bobo's 16 back in 1996.

Lagway carted off for UF :(

Indiana can’t control the conference schedule but they continue to blow out everyone out in front of them. I see them going 11-1 and somehow missing the playoffs. I guess a loss against Michigan is possible, but I think it’s obvious to anyone who has watched them that this Indiana team is good.

UF just having a brutal day at this point.

I don't see any way an 11-1 Indiana wouldn't be in the playoffs. The 4-team playoff no, but the current one? Yeah, they'll be in.

Iowa State pooped their pants against Tech

Florida spamming Cover 0 like a 12 year old playing Madden.

I don't see any way an 11-1 Indiana wouldn't be in the playoffs. The 4-team playoff no, but the current one? Yeah, they'll be in.

Hmm ... beat Michigan on something fluky , a really bad call or a 5th down kinda thing. Get absolutely dogwalked by Ohio State.

That'd open the door for them to be passed by quite a few 2 loss teams.

I'm not saying it's likely ... but there is at least a window for it to occur IMO.

I don't see any way an 11-1 Indiana wouldn't be in the playoffs. The 4-team playoff no, but the current one? Yeah, they'll be in.

Most things I see are showing 3 big 10 teams in. I don’t see how Indiana gets in over an Ohio State/Oregon conference championship loser or a 1 loss Penn State team. At that point they would be getting in over what would likely be the 4th place SEC team and I just don’t see that happening.

Coming into today, West Virginia was 4-4 and on a bye and the combined record of the teams that have beaten them was 28-1. Penn St, Pitt, and Iowa State were all undefeated and Kansas St had lost one game to undefeated BYU. So far, Penn St., Iowa St., and Kansas St. have all lost and Pitt is currently losing 20-3 to SMU (but it is still 1st half).

In addition, of the 4 teams that WVU has beaten Arizona and Albany have already lost, Oklahoma St. is down by 28 in the 4th quarter and Kansas doesn't play.

I will be really, really surprised if there aren't (at least) 4 SEC and 4 Big Ten teams in the playoffs every year.

I think Indiana is in unless they lose more than twice.

I will be really, really surprised if there aren't (at least) 4 SEC and 4 Big Ten teams in the playoffs every year.

I think Indiana is in unless they lose more than twice.

There are only 12 teams that get in and 3 of them are conference champions that aren’t in the SEC or B1G. You also have to account for Notre Dame and whoever doesn’t win the ACC (Clemson or Miami.) Either Notre Dame or one of those ACC teams has to be out for 4/4 SEC/B1G to get in.

A Clemson loss today would make me feel better about Indiana’s chances.

I know - I guess I should say in most years. I think the ACC/Big 12/Notre Dame share 3 bids most years and then the Group of 5 or 6 or whatever will get 1.

BYU and Iowa St were undefeated coming into this week and already behind six 1-loss teams and Miami is behind a couple while being undefeated. Plus, you have the situation with Florida St last year. The precedent shows that voters think 1- and 2-loss SEC and Big Ten teams are better than 0- and 1-loss Big 12 and ACC teams and it is going to be hard to argue that until the Big 12/ACC start beating them in the playoffs.

I know - I guess I should say in most years. I think the ACC/Big 12/Notre Dame share 3 bids most years and then the Group of 5 or 6 or whatever will get 1.

BYU and Iowa St were undefeated coming into this week and already behind six 1-loss teams and Miami is behind a couple while being undefeated. Plus, you have the situation with Florida St last year. The precedent shows that voters think 1- and 2-loss SEC and Big Ten teams are better than 0- and 1-loss Big 12 and ACC teams and it is going to be hard to argue that until the Big 12/ACC start beating them in the playoffs.

I would counter this with the voters clearly have no faith in Indiana since they are ranked 13th despite being undefeated in the Big Ten.

Did the Vols get more than 3 timeouts? Thought the graphic had them out before they took one with :33.

Maybe this setup will lead to some teams playing better non-conference games to boost SOS?

Some decent upsets in the making with #10 Texas A&M and #11 Clemson trailing to unranked team by 2 digits in the 4th.

Does anyone have an explanation why Dabo refuses to go for two?

nice 2nd half by South Cackalacky

Does anyone have an explanation why Dabo refuses to go for two?

I was knee deep in an edible and watching that game without sound. I was so confused on what was going on when they kicked the PAT. I was high as hell and even I could figure out that math.

Some decent upsets in the making with #10 Texas A&M and #11 Clemson trailing to unranked team by 2 digits in the 4th.
I was out of pocket last night, so I missed the games. Both teams getting upset by un-ranked opponents is big.

There is a website out there that is just a grid of the weekend's tv schedule and updates scores. I've lost that website. Anyone have it?

FYI - I finally found the one I was talking about:

CFB.guide (https://cfb.guide/cfb)

Boise St. RB Ashton Jeanty has scored 126 points this season.

Florida State has only scored 119.

SEC has the highest-ranked 1-loss, 2-loss, and 3-loss teams.

SEC has the highest-ranked 1-loss, 2-loss, and 3-loss teams.

I'm not sure I see an issue with that. Is there a 1-loss team you think is better than Georgia? Or a 2-loss team better than Alabama? I don't think I know enough 3 loss teams to bother asking if there's a 3-loss team better than Vanderbilt. I see Louisville right below them, but don't feel compelled to argue that they are higher. Probably the best counterexample here would be Ohio State over Georgia.

Meanwhile, the top ranked team, and the top 2nd, 3rd, and 4th team in its conference are all B1G.

I think i could see an argument that Texas A&M is ranked too high after getting boat-raced by South Carolina. You probably could move up Iowa St. Washington St. and Pitt a few spots. Overall, I am not seeing a team in the top 25 that shouldn't be there right now, and I'm not seeing anybody left out that should be.

I think the SEC benefits by the way voters look at losses to other SEC teams.

Take Texas A&M. Their only ranked win is against a LSU team who only beat an Ole Miss team who hasn't beaten a currently ranked opponent.

Why are those three the second, third, and fourth ranked two-loss teams and ranked higher than zero or one loss teams?

FYI - I finally found the one I was talking about:

CFB.guide (https://cfb.guide/cfb)

that's a cool site! will be bookmarking this one. love the Tues/Wed/Thurs/Friday games

I think the SEC benefits by the way voters look at losses to other SEC teams.

Take Texas A&M. Their only ranked win is against a LSU team who only beat an Ole Miss team who hasn't beaten a currently ranked opponent.

Why are those three the second, third, and fourth ranked two-loss teams and ranked higher than zero or one loss teams?

I feel like I've been arguing that for a decade now.

I think the SEC benefits by the way voters look at losses to other SEC teams.

Take Texas A&M. Their only ranked win is against a LSU team who only beat an Ole Miss team who hasn't beaten a currently ranked opponent.

Why are those three the second, third, and fourth ranked two-loss teams and ranked higher than zero or one loss teams?

I agree with you a little more on this tidbit.

LSU -- One win over a ranked team (Ole Miss). Losses to USC and Texas A&M.
Texas A&M -- One win over a ranked team (LSU). Losses to Notre Dame and South Carolina.
Ole Miss -- No wins over a ranked team. Losses to Kentucky and LSU.

On the other hand, the same could be said for the next three ranked 2-loss teams.

Clemson -- No wins over a ranked team. Losses to Georgia and Louisville.
Colorado -- No wins over a ranked team. Losses to Nebraska and Kansas State.
Kansas State -- One win over a ranked team (Colorado). Losses to BYU and Houston.

Is there a compelling reason to rank Clemson, Colorado, or Kansas State over the SEC teams? I suppose you could make an argument that it's only the SEC bias that's giving the SEC more chances to beat ranked teams, that the other teams don't have. But, are there teams on the schedules for Clemson, Colorado, or Kansas State that "should" be ranked, or are at least pretty good? I don't see them.

I hate SEC bias as much as the next guy, but it's a good league, and has a lot of parity this year.

This will be the last time I do this with the AP Poll, since tomorrow, while everyone else decides whether to let a wannabe dictator become one, 13 people vote on what *really* matters -- a preliminary ranking of college football teams before most of the interesting games have yet to be played. Anyway, here we go:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Miami
4. BYU

5. Ohio State
12. Boise State

6. Texas
11. Alabama

7. Penn State
10. Notre Dame

8. Tennessee
9. Indiana

First few out: 8-1 SMU, 6-2 LSU, 7-2 Texas A&M, 7-2 Ole Miss, 7-1 Iowa State

Until now, I defined "first few out" as teams that were ahead of Boise State. Since Boise State is now ranked #12, I've defined it as teams ahead of the next ranked G5 team, Army.

Boise State. I've gone from "who can take the 5th conference champion spot from Boise State" to "can Boise State get in the top 4 and get a bye" since they've moved up so much. They've moved up 5 spots in two weeks, though. BYU is only three spots ahead at #9. If BYU runs the table, Boise State probably gets shut out, but if BYU loses a game and Boise State wins out, you'd think Boise State gets the bye. Maybe Iowa State passes Boise State with a win over Kansas State and a win over BYU in the conference championship game?

Army. They've moved up to #18. Could an undefeated season and a win over Notre Dame and Navy put them in over a Big 12 champion? I don't think that's impossible.

Washington State. They're at #20 and 7-1. Wins over Texas Tech and Washington, loss to Boise State. Could they get some PAC 12 pity love?

Indiana. They moved up 5 spots this week to #8. Got some luck with losses by Texas A&M, Clemson, and Iowa State right in front of them, but they also jumped BYU and Notre Dame. Penn State dropped three spots losing to Ohio State, if Indiana does the same, they can stay in the top 12.

Changes:
Texas A&M drops out, and the Clemson/Iowa State tie is resolved by kicking both of them out. Indiana and Alabama take their spots.
The SEC is wide open with five 1-loss teams. Some games between them are left -- Georgia plays Tennessee, and Texas plays Texas A&M. LSU is the only team that doesn't play any of the others. At this point, I think it makes sense to put Georgia in for the bye since they are ranked the highest.

By conference: SEC 4, B1G 4, ACC 1, B12 1, MW 1, Ind 1

I don't think I know enough 3 loss teams to bother asking if there's a 3-loss team better than Vanderbilt.

They are definitely the 3-loss team with the best win however.

They are definitely the 3-loss team with the best win however.

They also have the worst loss among the contenders.

I hate SEC bias as much as the next guy, but it's a good league, and has a lot of parity this year.


There is obvious bias for the SEC and the Big 10. There always will be. But I will say again, lots of what is happening right now is going to sorts its way out shortly. LSU plays Bama this week, with the loser out of the playoff picture. Georgia plays Ole Miss and Tennessee. Ole Miss will definitely be done with a loss, Georgia is out if they lose to both, maybe out if they lose to either. Tennessee maybe out with a loss to Georgia, definitely will be out with a loss to Vandy. Texas A&M will be out if they lose to Texas.

There is obvious bias for the SEC and the Big 10. There always will be.

I think the difference now is with the latest conference realignment it's even more earned? With the SEC adding Texas and the Big Ten adding Oregon, that means each conference has another Top 5 team, and each lower team in the conference has a schedule that's a little bit harder.

This isn't the 90s, where there are several conferences that could have good teams in the Top 10 that may be deserving of a shot to call themselves national champion. Where we are now is that the SEC and Big Ten are just going to be the best conferences each year, and it's not going to be close.

They also have the worst loss among the contenders.

I think once you get to 3-loss teams it's kinda proven that they can lose to just about anybody. I feel like best win is probably more impactful at that tier.

I think once you get to 3-loss teams it's kinda proven that they can lose to just about anybody. I feel like best win is probably more impactful at that tier.

I think all things being equal I would tend to agree but you can't lose to a two win team (one of those wins being Vandy) and not have it impact anything at all. Vandy's floor is so low that it has to be accounted for.

I think that eventually this will mostly work out and rankings don't matter much, but there's a clear benefit for SEC teams regarding losses to other SEC teams. Other than vibes, what's the reason Iowa St. is below the A&M, LSU, and Ole Miss?

Ole Miss is strange because their schedule hasn't exactly been tough and they don't really have a good win this year (along with a bad loss to Kentucky).

Vandy has as many wins over a top 5 opponent as Penn State since 2000.... 1.

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I think that eventually this will mostly work out and rankings don't matter much, but there's a clear benefit for SEC teams regarding losses to other SEC teams. Other than vibes, what's the reason Iowa St. is below the A&M, LSU, and Ole Miss?

I'll use Sagarin (I know, I know, flaws ... but it's known, it's easy to find AND decipher)

Ole Miss - ranked 6th, SOS 51
Tx A&M - ranked 15th, SOS 13
LSU - ranked 11th, SOS 8
Iowa St - ranked 17th, SOS 37

Iowa State gets hurt by having played only 1 team in Sagarin's Top 30. They beat Iowa (who is ranked 16th btw) and are 1-0 but all three teams you mentioned specifically have 2 wins over T30 teams and have played 5/4/3 of those. There are 3 other T30 B12 teams in that poll .. but ISU hasn't faced any of them yet (and will only face one of them, K-State)

The "benefit" comes with losing to SEC teams that are considered better than a whole lot of other teams.

It ain't just poll voters, unless the crying contingent wants to claim that the computers have an SEC/B10 bias too.

Does Sagarin take into account margin of victory? Was surprised how high Ole Miss is but they have won a few games by huge margins.

Does Sagarin take into account margin of victory? Was surprised how high Ole Miss is but they have won a few games by huge margins.

There's 4 versions, with different weighting. 3 of those then "synthsize" (his word) into the rating I mentioned

They're 5th in pure points, 6th in golden mean (a diminising returns model I think), 6th in Recent, and 2nd in Strong Recent (which isn't used in the rating)

51st SOS, 2 losses and ranked 6th?

51st SOS, 2 losses and ranked 6th?

This is where you have to remember that Sagarin is meant to be predictive at its core.

This will be the last time I do this with the AP Poll, since tomorrow, while everyone else decides whether to let a wannabe dictator become one, 13 people vote on what *really* matters -- a preliminary ranking of college football teams before most of the interesting games have yet to be played. Anyway, here we go:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Miami
4. BYU

5. Ohio State
12. Boise State

6. Texas
11. Alabama

7. Penn State
10. Notre Dame

8. Tennessee
9. Indiana

First few out: 8-1 SMU, 6-2 LSU, 7-2 Texas A&M, 7-2 Ole Miss, 7-1 Iowa State



Not much difference between this and the actual CFP rankings. Ohio State and Georgia are flipped, but since Ohio State is not the best team in the Big Ten, it doesn't affect seeding. LSU and Texas A&M are flipped in the first few out. Army takes a hit, they are #25 instead of #18. That makes #21 Washington State now the biggest threat to unseat Boise State as the 5th conference champ. Although since Boise State is (currently) #12, they belong as an at-lsrge anyway.

Things that make me feel way older than I perceive myself for $1000 please, Alex…

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I suck at links, but Matt Leinart’s son committed to SMU.

How the frak does Matt Leinart have a 17 year old son already?

I guess it was that long ago.

California high school quarterback prospect Cole Leinart, the son of former USC star and Heisman Trophy winner Matt Leinart, committed to SMU on Wednesday.

Leinart, a 6-foot-3 right-hander, is a junior at California's Redondo Union High School. Not currently rated by ESPN, he held several Power 4 offers and picked the Mustangs over Colorado, Arizona and Utah to become the second member of coach Rhett Lashlee's 2026 class.

He had the kid in college with her I believe. There was a big custody stink over it at the time. I don't know why my brain still remembers that and that the woman almost married Blake Griffin later on.

This feels like a very college football story.

Mystery live tiger to attend LSU-Alabama gameÂ* • Louisiana Illuminator (https://lailluminator.com/2024/11/07/mystery-live-tiger-to-attend-lsu-v-alabama-game/)

Love to see GA Tech upset Miami. Currently up 14-10 in early 3Q


Edit: up 21-10

Now up 28-16 early 4Q

Tech just might pull this off vs #4 Miami

That would be a cool win but it feels like Miami has been playing with a horseshoe all season so who knows how they'll pull this out.

That would be a cool win but it feels like Miami has been playing with a horseshoe all season so who knows how they'll pull this out.
It is starting look like they might.

Oops

Ball game! Wow! Tech pulled that off!

It tell you, man. Two teams you don't want to play as a high-ranked team right now is Georgia Tech and Vandy. They have giant-killer in their blood.

Congrats to the Yellowjackets!

Great win

I think today made me realize just how divorced I am from the "new" college sports scene. I kinda knew, but it really sunk in today.

I was fine with a Miami win today, and would have preferred one. Because it had more potential entertainment value for me in the longer term. If anything, I'm mildly annoyed with GT for doing this.

Mercenary rosters with overpaid free agents really don't inspire much for me in the way of emotional interest.

The only deep genuine emotion I have with it now is almost entirely comprised of bad things happening to programs I despise.

C'mon Hoosiers. Don't Gopher this perfect start

We’re no Gophers!

Fve years ago today the Gophers beat #4 Penn State and were 9-0. :(

The only deep genuine emotion I have with it now is almost entirely comprised of bad things happening to programs I despise.
Well you should have a ball today, because Georgia is about top have their ass handed to them.

Well you should have a ball today, because Georgia is about top have their ass handed to them.

From your mouth to God's ear.

Carson Beck is looking anemic

Ruh roh raggy

Another Top-4 upset going to happen.

The Dawgs are … off

Well don't that just Hotty your Toddy?

If this means my first grandson has to be named Princely Suntarine Loveless, so be it.

#HYDR

Indiana sneak into the top 5?

That was too close.

I don’t think it’s too crazy. You put them ahead of Georgia and Miami who both lost and then flip the undefeated team ahead of a 1 loss Tennessee or Penn State and you get there.

Lots of parity in the SEC. If this is a result of NIL, I’m all for it.

Lots of parity in the SEC. If this is a result of NIL, I’m all for it.

I'm the opposite.

It basically means it's even harder than ever to find a team that's actually worth a damn.

And thanks be to South Carolina for taking down Vandy and their whiny bitch QB.

And at the end of the day, Carson Beck will drive his Lambo over to screw one of the Cavinder twins (Hanna, I think?) at some point soon.

How the fuck much do you really think he gives a big shit about a game in Oxford, MS?

I'm the opposite.

It basically means it's even harder than ever to find a team that's actually worth a damn.

It gives the perennial bottom dwellers (Hogs) hope.

We do have the Waltons & Jerry Jones …

See, now Bama/LSU this time I would expect NOT to tighten up, because only one of these teams will have a shot going forward, so you want that team to win big.

I wonder who the new HC at Oklahoma will be

Seems like animal cruelty to make that tiger watch LSU.

BYU in trouble

If Georgia beats Tennessee next week, and the team with the better conference record wins the remaining games on the SEC schedule, first place comes down to Texas vs Texas A&M, with the winner at 7-1 in the conference and a seven-way tie for second at 6-2.

There are no common conference opponents in that case, so second place is determined by strength of schedule, which Alabama holds by a game or two (one if A&M wins, two if Texas wins) over Tennessee.

At this point, Alabama's best move is to refuse to play in the conference championship (I know, they wouldn't, because there are certainly penalties involved) because losing would mean missing out on the playoff while not playing would likely ensure a berth.

Ideally, there wouldn't be conference championship games, but $$$.

The Big Ten seems headed for an Oregon/Ohio State rematch. The Big 12 has BYU and Colorado ahead of the others and the ACC looks like SMU and Miami (as I see Pittsburgh was shocked by Virginia in the last set of games).

BYU wow

Not sure who to root for in the SEC now. There's a pool of 5 possibles - Texas, TN, GA, AL and A&M. I'm thinking 3 will get in?

Hogs vs #3 Texas next weekend should be depressing.

It gives the perennial bottom dwellers (Hogs) hope.

We do have the Waltons & Jerry Jones …

See Hoosiers, Indiana. :) (NIL/portal)

The Kennesaw State story is really weird. Started a program 10 years ago and the same coach has led them all the way up to FBS. They fire him in the middle of his first season in FBS but made it seem like he stepped down on his own. Fans seem kind of mad because the coach was popular and not sure what exactly the expectations were for your first year in FBS for a program that has only existed a decade.

Something is definitely fishy there. Students and fans are upset, and rightfully so. Somebody with money making moves behind the scenes?

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The Kennesaw State story is really weird. Started a program 10 years ago and the same coach has led them all the way up to FBS. They fire him in the middle of his first season in FBS but made it seem like he stepped down on his own. Fans seem kind of mad because the coach was popular and not sure what exactly the expectations were for your first year in FBS for a program that has only existed a decade.

Eh, issue #1 - moving up was a horrible mistake in judgment. Not his fault, but still

issue #2 - this isn't year one, it's year three of the transition. since then, he's gone 5-6, 3-6, 1-8.

issue #3 - they actually haven't been past round two of the FCS playoffs since 2018.

issue #4 - Bohannon is the son of a (somewhat) legendary HS coaching icon. I was around that program (Griffin) for several years right after his dad stepped down/was forced out(depends on who you asked) That was a change that came after 4 mediocre seasons on the heels of only one meaningful run in two decades ... all based on a state title in his 3rd season, 20 years prior. And I watched his dad spend the better part of the next decade sitting in the visitors bleachers, surrounded by former players and fans who poor mouthed virtually everything that took place -- good or bad -- for the next 3-4 HCs. "Toxic" is an understatement.

issue #5 - Bohannon was, essentially, a Paul Johnson disciple. Make of that what you will, in terms of both coaching and personality.

Which brings us to the conclusion that I feel like the university may have reached: the program, under Bohannon, peaked six years ago. In the modern era, that's an extremely long leashed to give anybody. I see no reason to believe he was going to go quietly, not based on his genetics at least.

That this ended poorly doesn't come as the least bit of a surprise to me.

The Kennesaw State story is really weird. Started a program 10 years ago and the same coach has led them all the way up to FBS. They fire him in the middle of his first season in FBS but made it seem like he stepped down on his own. Fans seem kind of mad because the coach was popular and not sure what exactly the expectations were for your first year in FBS for a program that has only existed a decade.

Eh, issue #1 - moving up was a horrible mistake in judgment. Not his fault, but still

issue #2 - this isn't year one, it's really year three of the transition. since their 2nd round playoff exit the year prior, he's gone 5-6, 3-6, 1-8.

issue #3 - they actually haven't been past round two of the FCS playoffs since 2018.

issue #4 - Bohannon is the son of a (somewhat) legendary HS coaching icon. I was around that program (Griffin) for several years right after his dad stepped down/was forced out(depends on who you asked) That was a change that came after 4 mediocre seasons on the heels of only one meaningful run in two decades ... all based on a state title in his 3rd season, 20 years prior. And I watched his dad spend the better part of the next decade sitting in the visitors bleachers, surrounded by former players and fans who poor mouthed virtually everything that took place -- good or bad -- for the next 3-4 HCs. "Toxic" is an understatement.

issue #5 - Bohannon was, essentially, a Paul Johnson disciple. Make of that what you will, in terms of both coaching and personality.

Which brings us to the conclusion that I feel like the university may have reached: the program, under Bohannon, peaked six years ago. In the modern era, that's an extremely long leashed to give anybody. I see no reason to believe he was going to go quietly, not based on his genetics at least.

That this ended poorly doesn't come as the least bit of a surprise to me.

I stumbled upon this site that focuses on rivalry data last night as I was creating a custom universe for FC:College Dynasty. Thought it was cool enough to share.

NCAA DI Football Bowl Subdivision - Know Rivalry (https://knowrivalry.com/league/fbs-football/)

I stumbled upon this site that focuses on rivalry data last night as I was creating a custom universe for FC:College Dynasty. Thought it was cool enough to share.

NCAA DI Football Bowl Subdivision - Know Rivalry (https://knowrivalry.com/league/fbs-football/)

I want the names of those who didn't put TTUN as Ohio State's rival. This is some Russian cyber warfare/deep fake kinda shit.

"Bring me everyone. "
"What do you mean, 'everyone'?"
"EVERYONE!"

I want the names of those who didn't put TTUN as Ohio State's rival. This is some Russian cyber warfare/deep fake kinda shit.

"Bring me everyone. "
"What do you mean, 'everyone'?"
"EVERYONE!"

Heh, other than the Arizona scores, Ohio State->Michigan looks like one of the highest allocations. In case you didn't notice participants are asked to allocate a possible 100 points to different rivals. It's not that they didn't mark Michigan as a rival, but rather they allocated a small amount of points to Penn State etc as secondary rivals.

Heh, other than the Arizona scores, Ohio State->Michigan looks like one of the highest allocations. In case you didn't notice participants are asked to allocate a possible 100 points to different rivals. It's not that they didn't mark Michigan as a rival, but rather they allocated a small amount of points to Penn State etc as secondary rivals.

Oh, I understood the rules. Everyone should have voted 1000 points to TTUN and -900 points equally distributed to all other contestants. :D

Eh, issue #1 - moving up was a horrible mistake in judgment. Not his fault, but still

issue #2 - this isn't year one, it's really year three of the transition. since their 2nd round playoff exit the year prior, he's gone 5-6, 3-6, 1-8.

issue #3 - they actually haven't been past round two of the FCS playoffs since 2018.

issue #4 - Bohannon is the son of a (somewhat) legendary HS coaching icon. I was around that program (Griffin) for several years right after his dad stepped down/was forced out(depends on who you asked) That was a change that came after 4 mediocre seasons on the heels of only one meaningful run in two decades ... all based on a state title in his 3rd season, 20 years prior. And I watched his dad spend the better part of the next decade sitting in the visitors bleachers, surrounded by former players and fans who poor mouthed virtually everything that took place -- good or bad -- for the next 3-4 HCs. "Toxic" is an understatement.

issue #5 - Bohannon was, essentially, a Paul Johnson disciple. Make of that what you will, in terms of both coaching and personality.

Which brings us to the conclusion that I feel like the university may have reached: the program, under Bohannon, peaked six years ago. In the modern era, that's an extremely long leashed to give anybody. I see no reason to believe he was going to go quietly, not based on his genetics at least.

That this ended poorly doesn't come as the least bit of a surprise to me.

That makes some sense. I just don't know what the expectations should be for a school like Kennesaw State. They were pretty good in FCS after starting the program. Last couple years are definitely down, but it's not like they were getting badly beaten.

Agree that moving up was a horrible mistake. Their facilities look worse than a lot of high schools I've seen. It just seems like asking that school to be competitive in FBS is a huge stretch at this point. Maybe they'd do better with a different coach, but I don't think it'd be by much considering the huge disadvantages they have going for them. Looking at salaries, he was making under $400k a year which is a pittance of what other teams at that level make. Unless they've got a huge budget increase for the coaching staff, they're going to be bottom feeders for awhile.

I'm not sure how I feel about the Schadenfreude (aka: How much joy do fans take in the misfortune of the rival team? 1 [lowest] – 7 [highest]) section for WVU.

It has Pitt as 4.5 and VPI as 4.4 (out of 7). I would think it would be much closer to 7, for Pitt in particular.

Oh, I understood the rules. Everyone should have voted 1000 points to TTUN and -900 points equally distributed to all other contestants. :D

Maybe some of the points went to Xichigan and Tulane.

I'm not sure how I feel about the Schadenfreude (aka: How much joy do fans take in the misfortune of the rival team? 1 [lowest] – 7 [highest]) section for WVU.

It has Pitt as 4.5 and VPI as 4.4 (out of 7). I would think it would be much closer to 7, for Pitt in particular.

Your Mountaineers are giving me a helluva challenge trying to find a conference for them in my reimagination I'm doing for this game. Currently, you are only able to have conferences of 10/12/14/16 and I'm trying to limit myself to 12 and 14 whilst purging my league of all the riff raff. Rivals have to be a team inside their conference and so far using that site I've been able to have each team matched up with a primary or secondary rival. Until West Virginia.

ATLANTIC COAST
Florida State Miami
Maryland Virginia
NC State North Carolina
Boston College Syracuse
Clemson Florida State
Wake Forest Duke
Syracuse Boston College
Virginia Tech Virginia
Miami Florida State
Georgia Tech Clemson
North Carolina NC State
Duke North Carolina
Virginia Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh Syracuse

BIG TWELVE
Nebraska Oklahoma
Missouri Kansas
Kansas State Kansas
Iowa State Kansas State
Colorado Nebraska
Kansas Missouri
Oklahoma Texas
Oklahoma State Oklahoma
Texas A&M Texas
Baylor TCU
Texas Tech Texas
Texas Oklahoma
TCU Baylor
SMU TCU

BIG TEN
Michigan State Michigan
Iowa Wisconsin
Indiana Purdue
Michigan Ohio State
Ohio State Michigan
Minnesota Wisconsin
Purdue Indiana
Illinois Northwestern
Northwestern Illinois
Wisconsin Minnesota
Penn State Ohio State
Notre Dame Michigan

PACIFIC TWELVE
USC UCLA
UCLA USC
Washington Oregon
Arizona State Arizona
Oregon Washington
Stanford Cal
Arizona Arizona State
Cal Stanford
Washington State Washington
Oregon State Oregon
Utah BYU
BYU Utah

SOUTHEASTERN
South Carolina Georgia
Florida Georgia
Georgia Florida
Tennessee Alabama
Kentucky Tennessee
Vanderbilt Tennessee
Auburn Alabama
Arkansas LSU
LSU Alabama
Alabama Auburn
Mississippi State Ole Miss
Ole Miss Mississippi State

WESTERN ATHLETIC
San Diego State Fresno State
Hawaii Fresno State
Wyoming Colorado State
Colorado State Wyoming
New Mexico San Diego State
Boise State Fresno State
UNLV Nevada
Air Force Colorado State
Utah State Boise State
Fresno State Boise State
San Jose State Fresno State
Nevada UNLV

UNNAMED
Rutgers UConn
West Virginia
Louisville Cincinnati
Cincinnati Louisville
UConn Rutgers
USF UCF
UCF USF
Memphis Cincinnati
Houston Rice
Rice Houston
Army Navy
Navy Army

Sorry for the bad formatting. Rivals are on the right. Maybe I replace Memphis with Marshall or something

See, I’d be tempted to put MD, WVU, Pitt, and Syracuse all in the Big 10. (Sorry, BC!) Of course this is largely based off of PSU rivalries of like 50 years ago…

Dola - I didn’t notice you had ND in the B1G. Kick them out and take BC, because eff ND.

(Interesting - autocorrect wants to make “dola” into “fils”. Which…kinda fits.)

Dola - I didn’t notice you had ND in the B1G. Kick them out and take BC, because eff ND.

(Interesting - autocorrect wants to make “dola” into “fils”. Which…kinda fits.)

I'm really trying to keep things as regional as they were pre-2010ish. In my first attempt I kept the Big East together because.. well nostalgia and that just caused issues elsewhere. I'm locking Notre Dame football into the Big Ten and they are never getting out.

Your Mountaineers are giving me a helluva challenge trying to find a conference for them in my reimagination I'm doing for this game. Currently, you are only able to have conferences of 10/12/14/16 and I'm trying to limit myself to 12 and 14 whilst purging my league of all the riff raff. Rivals have to be a team inside their conference and so far using that site I've been able to have each team matched up with a primary or secondary rival. Until West Virginia.

ATLANTIC COAST
Florida State Miami
Maryland Virginia
NC State North Carolina
Boston College Syracuse
Clemson Florida State
Wake Forest Duke
Syracuse Boston College
Virginia Tech Virginia
Miami Florida State
Georgia Tech Clemson
North Carolina NC State
Duke North Carolina
Virginia Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh Syracuse

BIG TWELVE
Nebraska Oklahoma
Missouri Kansas
Kansas State Kansas
Iowa State Kansas State
Colorado Nebraska
Kansas Missouri
Oklahoma Texas
Oklahoma State Oklahoma
Texas A&M Texas
Baylor TCU
Texas Tech Texas
Texas Oklahoma
TCU Baylor
SMU TCU

BIG TEN
Michigan State Michigan
Iowa Wisconsin
Indiana Purdue
Michigan Ohio State
Ohio State Michigan
Minnesota Wisconsin
Purdue Indiana
Illinois Northwestern
Northwestern Illinois
Wisconsin Minnesota
Penn State Ohio State
Notre Dame Michigan

PACIFIC TWELVE
USC UCLA
UCLA USC
Washington Oregon
Arizona State Arizona
Oregon Washington
Stanford Cal
Arizona Arizona State
Cal Stanford
Washington State Washington
Oregon State Oregon
Utah BYU
BYU Utah

SOUTHEASTERN
South Carolina Georgia
Florida Georgia
Georgia Florida
Tennessee Alabama
Kentucky Tennessee
Vanderbilt Tennessee
Auburn Alabama
Arkansas LSU
LSU Alabama
Alabama Auburn
Mississippi State Ole Miss
Ole Miss Mississippi State

WESTERN ATHLETIC
San Diego State Fresno State
Hawaii Fresno State
Wyoming Colorado State
Colorado State Wyoming
New Mexico San Diego State
Boise State Fresno State
UNLV Nevada
Air Force Colorado State
Utah State Boise State
Fresno State Boise State
San Jose State Fresno State
Nevada UNLV

UNNAMED
Rutgers UConn
West Virginia
Louisville Cincinnati
Cincinnati Louisville
UConn Rutgers
USF UCF
UCF USF
Memphis Cincinnati
Houston Rice
Rice Houston
Army Navy
Navy Army

Sorry for the bad formatting. Rivals are on the right. Maybe I replace Memphis with Marshall or something

Realistically, for West Virginia, I would say drop Wake Forest, BC, or Duke from the ACC and put WVU in. WVU has legitimate rivalries with Pitt, VPI, and Maryland and, to a lesser extent, Louisville (that series got pretty heated before they both left the Big East), Syracuse, BC, and Miami. They are the 15th winningest D1 program of all time and, sadly, are the winningest program to never have won a national championship.

Even in bad years, WVU would be in the top half of attendance for the conference and in good years would be in the top 4 behind Clemson, FSU, and VPI since they all have higher capacity stadiums. WVU averaged more than 60K per game as recently as 2007 and has a record of 70,222 but they shrank their stadium seating down since then. And, TV games with WVU vs Pitt and VPI are going to get high TV ratings (and WVU has even had recently played Maryland in made for TV neutral site games and just signed on to play a two game series vs UVA in Charlotte in made for TV matchups). Wake Forest and BC aren't doing that, unless they are playing Notre Dame or another team that draws.

Arkansas LSU

Texas was the biggest Hog rivalry back in the SWC days. Obviously, not how the Horns view it but that's how the Hogs saw it. Now in the SEC, I'd say LSU or Ole Miss are the biggest rivals and again, not how they view it.

The Hogs lack a true rivalry where the opponent view them also as their #1 rival. That sucks but the unfortunate truth with the geography and the lack of our sustained success.

That sucks but the unfortunate truth with the geography and the lack of our sustained success.

fwiw, I'd say that's a realistic assessment but it's also significantly influenced by the geography thing, so it's kinda understandable

For years, I came back home to Louisiana for Thanksgiving, and Friday was the lazy leftovers day at my parents' house, and that LSU/Arkansas game for the big golden boot came on at the perfect time for me to lay on the sofa and do some combination of dozing off, watching, and snacking.

Projection based on CFP Poll:

1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. Miami/SMU
4. BYU

5. Ohio State
12. Boise State

6. Penn State
11. Ole Miss

7. Indiana
10. Alabama

8. Tennessee
9. Notre Dame

First few out -- Miami/SMU, 7-2 Georgia, 7-2 Texas A&M, 7-2 Kansas State, 7-2 Colorado

I'm putting "Miami/SMU" in the ACC spot because this is difficult to project. SMU is undefeated in ACC play, so by that measure, they should get the bye. But Miami is the best 1-loss team, and should make the ACC Championship Game, and since they are ranked higher than SMU, they "should" win, so it also makes sense to put them here. Also, SMU is ranked lower than BYU, so if they get a bye, they should be the 4th seed, but I would imagine a win over Miami in the ACCCG jumps them over BYU. SMU is not in the top 12 now, but we may also be able to imagine a world where Miami at #9 loses to SMU, and stays in the top 11, kicking #11 Alabama out of the playoffs. Unlikely, though (especially if you factor in other non-ACC games happening).

Boise State drops from 12 to 13 in both AP and CFP (Ole Miss passed them), which leaves Georgia out at #12. AP has Army at #16, but CFP has them down at #24. CFP has Washington State at #16 as the team waiting to see if Boise State loses. With no championship game for Washington State, they probably don't have much chance to jump Boise State unless they lose.

Changes: Georgia goes from getting a bye to out, Ole Miss takes their spot, Texas takes their bye. Miami steps half out, SMU steps half in.

By conference: SEC 4, B1G 4, ACC 1, B12 1, MW 1, Ind 1

Big 12. Colorado has an easy road to win out and make the CG (4-5 Utah, 3-6 Kansas, 3-7 Oklahoma State). BYU plays 7-2 Arizona State, but even if they lose a game, they're still in. I don't think they have a shot of getting two in, so the spot probably comes down to BYU/Colorado in the CG.

Big Ten. Feels like Oregon is in, against the winner of Ohio State/Indiana. Unless maybe Michigan gives Ohio State game (I'm holding out hope), Ohio State beats Indiana, and we see an Indiana/PSU tiebreaker that I'm not going to look into at this time. Oregon, Ohio State, and Penn State are all probably in, and for Indiana, I think it will be close if they lose a game.

SEC. Jim mentioned the possibility of a 7-way tie for 2nd place, which would be interesting. Right now, Tennessee, Texas, and Texas A&M are all tied with 1 loss, so you'd think Tennessee vs. winner of Texas/Texas A&M, but there's too many good SEC teams to assume that. We're pretty solid on 4 SEC teams getting in, I think -- maybe there was a week with 5, so that's possible too. I think you'd need to see Indiana go out of the top 12 with a loss, or 2 losses from Ohio State for that to happen. Oh, or a loss from Notre Dame.

For Indiana, the way I see it is that they need to beat Purdue and hope that both Ohio St and Oregon don't slip up. Assuming those two things happen, I think if they beat Ohio St and lose in the B10 title game, they are fine. If they lose to Ohio St., they likely do not make it to the B10 title game and are sitting at 11-1 before and after conference championships. It would be pretty messy for the committee to select two 2-loss teams over a 1-loss conference mate.

If they lose to Ohio St. and Oregon slides allowing Indiana to make it to the championship game, that is where I think they get into some trouble and would have to win the title game.

If things stayed like that the #5 team looks really good. Boise St. and BYU is the easiest path to the final four.

Hogs are down 0-7 vs #3 Longhorns. We aren’t doing great, last series and punt was a disaster


Edit: Hogs are down 0-10 at halftime so doing better than I expected. Still a chance but Hogs seem stymied right now

Oh yeah. Hogs getting spicy now, down 13-10 in early 4Q


Edit: oh well, short lived hope

This week's matchups are the Paul/Tyson of the season.

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This week's matchups are the Paul/Tyson of the season.

Yeah, the annual SEC bullshit week.

LSU: best 4 loss team??

Yeah, the annual SEC bullshit week.

Chicken Shit Saturday

Is there some reason the SEC plays their out of conference game so late in the year? Is it like a weather thing so they get a bye earlier?

Louisville lost in one of the most remarkable ways possible.

This is not going to be a good night.

I can't wait to see what accent Brian Kelly unveils at his next job.

Georgia's schedule this year has been brutal. They must've pissed off someone at the SEC to get this line up.

Georgia's schedule this year has been brutal. They must've pissed off someone at the SEC to get this line up.
Hardest schedule and the worst roster they have had in 5 years.

Better referring against LSU and a couple plays against Bama, and South Carolina is top 5 in the country right now.

In the 'things I didn't see coming' category; if Oregon loses, Indiana is the top-ranked undefeated team.

In the 'things I didn't see coming' category; if Oregon loses, Indiana is the top-ranked undefeated team.

As an Indiana fan, get your shit together Oregon.

BYU's luck finally runs out

BYU's luck finally runs out

In the AP poll, BYU dropped below Boise State with the loss. CFP poll comes out today, but the AP Poll has:

12. Boise State
14. BYU
16. Colorado

I wonder what kind of chance that loss gives Boise State for getting a bye. If BYU and Colorado play in the Big 12 Championship Game, do they jump Boise State? Also, CFP liked BYU a little more than AP, (CFP had them at 6, AP at 7), And liked Boise State a little less (CFP had them at 13, AP at 12). Maybe BYU stays above Boise State tonight.

I just learned there is a Snoop Dogg Arizona bowl presented by gin and juice.

As it stands right now per Bleacher Report.

College Football Playoff Rankings 2024: Week 13 Poll Announced by Committee | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10144048-college-football-playoff-rankings-2024-week-13-poll-announced-by-committee?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial)
Barring chaos—which can always happen in college football—the ultimate 12-team field will include the majority of the teams in the top 15 or so in Tuesday's updated rankings.

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I've heard UGA fans complaining about their rank, but if that was the final bracket I'd have to think they should be thrilled. No SEC championship game, followed by games against (what I think are) overrated Penn State and Miami teams.

Looks right to me. People bitch to bitch sometimes. I feel like Georgia is lucky to be in it at all after that game with Ole Miss.

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Looks right to me. People bitch to bitch sometimes. I feel like Georgia is lucky to be in it at all after that game with Ole Miss.

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I agree. On a good day, the Dawgs can beat anyone. But they've been lackluster.

They are my default to root for, just can't see rooting for Texas or Alabama, but maybe Ole Miss.