So, as I'm sure most of you know by now, the Raiders officially submitted the paperwork for the move to Las Vegas to the NFL. Assuming approval, this puts me in one hell of a bind. I've been a dedicated Dolphins fan since I was a kid, and they've been my longest-lasting, most deeply held loyalty ever. But the Raiders will be the first local pro sports team I'd have a hardcore interest in following and becoming a fan of (the NHL franchise coming to town, too, I suppose, though I haven't followed pro hockey since the late '90s, so I'd be starting over from scratch there. No loyalty conflicts there whatsoever).

Now if it was an NFC team, no problem. I'd have an AFC team and an NFC one, and I wouldn't worry about it unless they met in the Super Bowl. But because it's two AFC teams, that's the quandary. This wouldn't be a problem in any other sport - NHL already covered, baseball I'd actually start caring about again, and Lakers fandom is only in the last few years, and it feels weird anyway because they're not the sort of team I usually support.

So what do I do? Can I authentically call myself a fan of two teams in the same conference? Will I have to pick just one (and if that's the case, I'm going to have a *lot* of sleepless nights trying to figure this out).

This would also be easier if I didn't genuinely love living in Las Vegas (for all its numerous flaws). There's not too many cities in the US I'd be interested in living in more. Then I'd go oh okay, that's cool, and carry on in aqua and orange. I feel like this is the first time I genuinely understand why so many people are invested in their local teams. After living here for six and a half years (which is the longest I've lived anywhere other than my hometown), I feel like the city's starting to become a part of me.

So what would the members of FOFC do?

You can call yourself a fan of both teams, but you probably would have to declare which one you're more hardcore fan of.. after all, they won't play each other often (different divisions, etcetera)

Well I seriously doubt the "Fandom Police" are going to arrest you or protest in front of your house ) I think the only time you might get a bit of grief is if Miami is facing the Raiders in the playoffs and you have a Miami flag waving from your house.

I've been a Cards fan most of my life despite never having lived near St. Louis or Arizona. I lived here in Myrtle Beach since before the Panthers came to North Carolina, I think. I kinda adopted them as a second team to be a fan of since our local newspaper covered them so much. Still root for my beloved Cards over the Panthers when they meet during the regular season/playoffs.

so I think you are safe to root for both teams )

Do whatever makes you happy and fuck anyone else.

You'll most likely eventually find yourself rooting more for one over the other.

No problem there. You have one true favorite team, but there can be lots of teams that you root for.

I feel this polyteamistic belief system is ruining America. There needs to be strong borders, the best borders, between each team. You get one team, the team you're born with. What are children going to think if you can just go around changing your team any time you want.

Do whatever makes you happy and fuck anyone else.

You'll most likely eventually find yourself rooting more for one over the other.

This

Sports fandom ain't exactly a Sophie's choice.

You can call yourself a fan of both teams, but you probably would have to declare which one you're more hardcore fan of.. after all, they won't play each other often (different divisions, etcetera)

Yeah, I'd go with that.

In this situation it is understandable why you'd want to also support the LV Raiders and you won't get too much flak for it (but I bet LV fans will try to make you be more 'hardcore' in support of Vegas).

You'll most likely eventually find yourself rooting more for one over the other.

Yeah. This is probably a decision that will resolve itself by your natural inclination.

No issues with having two teams. I live in Arizona, but really can't stand the Cardinals. Lifelong Vikings fan, my #1 team and my AFC second team is the Colts.

Baseball I like the Yankees 1st and have been a lifelong Cubs fan as my lesser/NL team (I promise, I am not on the bandwagon with them)

Basketball I like the Jazz because they were the only pro sports team in Utah where I grew up and I had no other loyalties and still don't have a second team.

Hockey I like the Coyotes, mainly for the same reason as I like the Jazz. Have lived here for a while and had no other Hockey loyalties.

Ginger or Marianne......Both, might as well be happy on that damn island.

I feel this polyteamistic belief system is ruining America. There needs to be strong borders, the best borders, between each team. You get one team, the team you're born with. What are children going to think if you can just go around changing your team any time you want.

should we start calling you Easy Trump now? )

Your loyalities will shift naturally. When you turn on sports radio and it all Raiders talk, you ill start seeing yourself relate more to what is happening with that franchise.
While, you will still be a dolphins fan, you will become more of a Raiders fan. It may take awhile. But the saturation of all things Raider will slowly infiltrate you and change you.

Signed,
A Broncos fan in St Louis.
Living here when the Rams moved in.

I don't understand. You root for the Dolphins for whatever reasons and now a business decision by someone you don't know is going to change that? If you had no interest in rooting for the Raiders before, why will a geographic coincidence change that?

If you had said that you have always wanted to tailgate or attend games in person I would say go for it, become a Dolphins/Raiders fan. But without a compelling reason to lavish attention and adoration on another team then nothing has changed.

should we start calling you Easy Trump now? )

Feels more apt for our President-Elect.

Really though, I essentially adopted the Panthers once they came to Charlotte when I was 13 and living 40 minutes away. I was a 49ers fan for no real reason before that, but that faded. Now I'm more or less torn between the Falcons and Panthers since I live exactly between them and my wife's family are Falcons fans. I more just watch football than root for any pro team.

So, as I'm sure most of you know by now, the Raiders officially submitted the paperwork for the move to Las Vegas to the NFL. Assuming approval, this puts me in one hell of a bind. I've been a dedicated Dolphins fan since I was a kid, and they've been my longest-lasting, most deeply held loyalty ever. But the Raiders will be the first local pro sports team I'd have a hardcore interest in following and becoming a fan of (the NHL franchise coming to town, too, I suppose, though I haven't followed pro hockey since the late '90s, so I'd be starting over from scratch there. No loyalty conflicts there whatsoever).

Now if it was an NFC team, no problem. I'd have an AFC team and an NFC one, and I wouldn't worry about it unless they met in the Super Bowl. But because it's two AFC teams, that's the quandary. This wouldn't be a problem in any other sport - NHL already covered, baseball I'd actually start caring about again, and Lakers fandom is only in the last few years, and it feels weird anyway because they're not the sort of team I usually support.

So what do I do? Can I authentically call myself a fan of two teams in the same conference? Will I have to pick just one (and if that's the case, I'm going to have a *lot* of sleepless nights trying to figure this out).

This would also be easier if I didn't genuinely love living in Las Vegas (for all its numerous flaws). There's not too many cities in the US I'd be interested in living in more. Then I'd go oh okay, that's cool, and carry on in aqua and orange. I feel like this is the first time I genuinely understand why so many people are invested in their local teams. After living here for six and a half years (which is the longest I've lived anywhere other than my hometown), I feel like the city's starting to become a part of me.

So what would the members of FOFC do?

Being in the same situation as you (if my memory is correct), I'll use this example.

I think you went to both Ark and UNLV. Even thought I've been out here in Vegas since 99 and obviously more UNLV games than Razorbacks games since then, the Razorbacks are always my #1 team but I'll root for UNLV to do well.

I don't have an NFL team really. I'll follow the Raiders but I doubt I'll ever call them my "team". Blame fantasy sports or whatever you want but I'll always root for the Razorbacks before any pro team. I'd say stay a fan of the Dolphins and just enjoy the Raiders.

Same situation with the NHL as I don't follow it but will since it's easy to start with the birth of the franchise. Use to take the kid to Wranglers games when they were in town so he understands the game. I guess it depends on who get the TV rights here but I'm more excited about the Golden Knights than the Raiders coming.

Yeah. This is probably a decision that will resolve itself by your natural inclination.

I find myself doing this in games I have no actual emotional ties to. Like if we sit down for a random college football game, I might initially feel like I want Team X to win yet I find myself getting more excited when that team throws a pick and Team Y returns it for a TD.

Although I went to high school in Oklahoma and still live there, I lived in California when I became a sports fan. My location, along with the rooting interests of my family members, led me to become a Giants, 49ers, and Warriors fan. When I moved to Oklahoma, I kept those rooting interests. Other than the fact that two of those teams were either already bad (Warriors) or were about to settle into mediocrity (49ers), keeping my rooting interests were not hard. There's more Cowboys fans here, but football rooting interests are fairly well spread out otherwise. Baseball allegiances are more toward Texas and St. Louis, but there are a fair amount of fans of other teams as well. Nobody cared much about the NBA, and it was my least favorite sport of the three anyway.

When the Hornets temporarily relocated to Oklahoma City, a friend and I bought half season tickets for the two years they were here. We generally rooted for the Hornets, but were mainly there to see pro basketball in our area. The Hornets failed to make the playoffs in each season here. I maintained my Warriors fandom and even made their logo my Facebook avatar during their first round upset of the Mavs (I was in college at the time, and quite a few students were North Texas natives...I was rubbing it in).

The Thunder came in 2008, and I got a six-game package. It was obviously more permanent than the Hornets stay, and I became a fan of the Thunder. I essentially declared the Thunder "my team," but the Warriors were "the other team I root for" because they were my original favorites. I enjoyed watching Steph Curry from afar and the Thunder close to home.

That worked well until last playoffs when Golden State and OKC faced off in the Western Conference Finals. I rooted for the Thunder as my favorite team and had no desire for the Warriors to win the series at all. After the Thunder became the original blowers of a 3-1 lead, it was pretty defeating. Because of that series, I basically lost all interest in rooting for the Warriors. I found myself rooting for the Cavs in the finals. And, of course, now that KD left for Golden State, it sealed the deal. Here, at least, it became a rivalry. I am a Thunder fan...therefore, I hate the Warriors.

That's all to say, it's easy to say "yeah, I can just root for both," but it's hard in practice. At some point there will be a decision point, and you'll likely find yourself picking one over the other and it will be very hard to root for the second team against if they win.

I find myself doing this in games I have no actual emotional ties to. Like if we sit down for a random college football game, I might initially feel like I want Team X to win yet I find myself getting more excited when that team throws a pick and Team Y returns it for a TD.

On a somewhat related note, this is kind of why I have really been enjoying college football lately. I bring no extra baggage to it because I don't really have any favorites. Like you said, I kind of just watch the game and naturally seem to find myself pulling for a team.

In the NFL it seems like I have a "reason" to root against almost every team- hate this player, don't like that coach, this team beat my team in that big game, I hate that team's fans, I need this team to lose because it helps my team in the standings, etc.

It's not like you have a local team and are randomly picking another team as well. You'll find yourself pulling for one more than the other most likely at some point.

I'm an Eagles fan by blood and a Seahawks fan by choice. Started liking them back in the mid 80's. Was easier before they ended up in the same conference. It's still Eagles first when they play each other; when all things are even. To use this year as an example; wasn't happy about the loss for the Eagles but the win helping the Seahawks took a little of the sting out of it.

When they won the Super Bowl a couple years ago it was fun to watch and was happy that they won but the joy in the Eagles winning would be exponentially greater as I would be able to share that win with all of the local fans.

dola: just don't use the phrase "we" when talking about either of them; that is a pure violation.

Eh, I like the Steelers and the Bills.

As long as you're in Vegas I think you gotta follow them merely because of easy ticket opportunities.

So, as I'm sure most of you know by now, the Raiders officially submitted the paperwork for the move to Las Vegas to the NFL. Assuming approval, this puts me in one hell of a bind. I've been a dedicated Dolphins fan since I was a kid, and they've been my longest-lasting, most deeply held loyalty ever. But the Raiders will be the first local pro sports team I'd have a hardcore interest in following and becoming a fan of (the NHL franchise coming to town, too, I suppose, though I haven't followed pro hockey since the late '90s, so I'd be starting over from scratch there. No loyalty conflicts there whatsoever).

Now if it was an NFC team, no problem. I'd have an AFC team and an NFC one, and I wouldn't worry about it unless they met in the Super Bowl. But because it's two AFC teams, that's the quandary. This wouldn't be a problem in any other sport - NHL already covered, baseball I'd actually start caring about again, and Lakers fandom is only in the last few years, and it feels weird anyway because they're not the sort of team I usually support.

So what do I do? Can I authentically call myself a fan of two teams in the same conference? Will I have to pick just one (and if that's the case, I'm going to have a *lot* of sleepless nights trying to figure this out).

This would also be easier if I didn't genuinely love living in Las Vegas (for all its numerous flaws). There's not too many cities in the US I'd be interested in living in more. Then I'd go oh okay, that's cool, and carry on in aqua and orange. I feel like this is the first time I genuinely understand why so many people are invested in their local teams. After living here for six and a half years (which is the longest I've lived anywhere other than my hometown), I feel like the city's starting to become a part of me.

So what would the members of FOFC do?

Bearing in mind you can do whatever the fuck you want because none of this matters...

I'd say that rooting for two teams in the same conference isn't really ethical from a sports fandom perspective.

You can root for teams in different conferences. You can have a 1) primary team for some reason and then have a 2nd team for some other reason if there's a qualifying event. I think a city moving to your city is a qualifying event, so you're allowed to root for the new team or at least try them out, while also rooting for your old team without telling anyone that's your old team except when it's the playoffs and the other team isn't involved.

The operative question that someone else might have asked but I'm gonna ask again is... "if they're playing each other, who would you root for?"

That'll be for your favorite team going forward.

But yeah, so long as you don't actually rep two teams publicly then I think it's legit to have more than one favorite team, especially for this extenuating circumstance.

I spent the first 23 years of my life in Buffalo. I became a big Bills fan as a child when they first starting winning in the AFL (1963).

I've lived the last almost 40 years outside of Chicago. I've been a Bears fan that whole time, and my connection to the Bills has faded a bit over the years. However, I'm still a fan of the Bills.

That said, as long as 1 of those teams is doing well, I've been happy. If both are doing well, I'm ecstatic. The last few years have sucked!

Every 4 years when they play each other, I just root for a close and interesting game.

I'm thrilled. I can go see a Chiefs game in Vegas every year. I would have never attended a Raiders/Chiefs game in that shithole otherwise known as Oakland.

It really doesn't matter. It's personal preference. Do what you want.

I grew up a Bucs fan and all sports Philadelphia (my formative years were the early 80's in Mississippi and all those teams were good stories then).

So while my heart was always with the Bucs, I kept a strong affinity going with the Eagles all the way up until the Bucs finally turned the corner and I had my own team of great personalities and skill to cheer for.

I kept up with the 76'ers from the end of the Dr J era to Barkley and then the AI years before losing interest and switched to the Magic.

I kept up with the Phillies till the Ryan Howard era and flipped fully behind the Rays when I moved to Tampa for good.

Flyers were my team until this permanent planting in Tampa as well, now I'm all Lightning.

The affinity still remains however so I root for them to do well but I don't consider myself a fan....but I'd guess many would see it that way.

Basically, my preference is to have one #1 team, regardless of any other affinities.

A weird thing happened this year. I have no such affinity for the Cowboys but found myself rooting for them because of Dak Prescott. That's a player identity thing though. As he matures and becomes more Cowboy than Bulldog, I'm sure that will fade.

As everyone else said, do what you feel like.

That being said, I feel like at the end of the day, you are really only a fan of one team. I went to college away from home, and every Sunday would go to the local bowling alley to watch the football games. My buddy was a Bills fan, so we'd get there for the AM games to watch the Bills, then stay to watch the 49ers in the afternoon games. I grew to like the Bills, and I like seeing them do well. I would never consider myself a fan, though - I think that would demean my own 49er fandom as well as actual Bills fans.

As everyone else said, do what you feel like.

That being said, I feel like at the end of the day, you are really only a fan of one team.

I agree with this, though, like others have said, it's your fandom, you can do whatever the heck you like. Personally, however, I can't see being a fan of more than one team, nor can I see personal fandom changing from one team to another.

When the Colts left Baltimore in '84, my heart was torn out. The Ravens are in Baltimore now, but I still feel "meh" about them and the NFL ever since. Sure, I like watching the playoffs and such, but it's not live or die for me like it used to be.

Born and raised in Maryland and will be a fan of the Orioles and the University of Maryland no matter where I live.

dola. Oh my God, I kill so many threads.

There's no such thing as ethics when it comes to being a fan of a sports team, aside perhaps from the question of whether you should devote significant amounts of your time to it at all. Where I've come down is to be a fan of the sport more than of a specific team. Appreciate interesting stuff wherever you find it. Etc. I think being overly invested in one team makes it hard to really fully appreciate what other teams/players are doing.

Get that Raiders gear ready, Izulde. :)

Echoing what wishbone said earlier, what does geography have anything to do with whom you like? Is there some kind of rule that you have to love the local team (loving the city/place can have nothing to do with sports).

You are allowed the like/love/hate 0 teams, 1 team or all of the teams, it doesn't matter. If you have loved one team for a long time, don't feel you have to fall for peer pressure or like what others like because of insecurity or wanting to fit in (but always respect what others like).

You know this as well as I do that, unlike certain other parts of the country, we here in the mountain west are a lot less parochial (and more transient) because we get people/fans from all over the country.

Personally, I love the idea of the Raiders in Las Vegas. They deserve a lot better than that dump of a stadium they play in now.

Echoing what wishbone said earlier, what does geography have anything to do with whom you like? Is there some kind of rule that you have to love the local team (loving the city/place can have nothing to do with sports).


Of course not, you can root for whatever team you want, though I personally think it's strange. Why pick ANY team then? Because they wear pretty colors (sometimes)? Because they win a lot (most of the time)? There's something to be said for representing where you're from, your hometown.

I think two teams are allowed. I was in the same situation since I have been a lifelong Redskins fan, from the day when I was born in Washington DC. But then when the Panthers started, here in North Carolina where I live, I felt I got a pass to have them as my second team, even though they are in the NFC. Thats been how I roll, fan-wise ever since. Of course you could argue having a new team start up is different than an existing team moving to your area, I don't know. I say you're good.

I've been trying to pick a favorite NBA team, but I can't, that league is so player driven and I just haven't ever found a team that resonated with me long enough to care. So I always try to winnow it down to a team and can't really pick, but this topic comes up for me a lot mostly in that league or lately when a favorite team doesn't make the playoffs and I have to pick the least worst team I want to see win it if my team can't

Echoing what wishbone said earlier, what does geography have anything to do with whom you like? Is there some kind of rule that you have to love the local team (loving the city/place can have nothing to do with sports).


I think it has to do with ease. If you live in the market, you get to see more games, and it makes it easier to follow the team.

I think it has to do with ease. If you live in the market, you get to see more games, and it makes it easier to follow the team.

In today's world?? Apart from attending games (I grant that), it's easy to watch all the games of any team and to read minute details on a daily basis of any and all teams just as easy as any local team, particularly NFL.

I don't honestly give a shit about people who have multiple fandoms.

Where it bothers me is when (and I legit know people like this, no exaggerating) you get folks who start agonizing over whom to root for because one of the teams playing is "my sixth favorite team" and the other is "my seventh favorite team" but "my sixth favorite hasn't won anything in a generation and my seventh favorite has been on a run of success lately so who should I cheer for in this playoff game?"

There's a line between being a fan of multiple teams and just being obnoxious, and it's generally not hard to tell when that line is getting crossed.

I don't honestly give a shit about people who have multiple fandoms.

Where it bothers me is when (and I legit know people like this, no exaggerating) you get folks who start agonizing over whom to root for because one of the teams playing is "my sixth favorite team" and the other is "my seventh favorite team" but "my sixth favorite hasn't won anything in a generation and my seventh favorite has been on a run of success lately so who should I cheer for in this playoff game?"

There's a line between being a fan of multiple teams and just being obnoxious, and it's generally not hard to tell when that line is getting crossed.

That's terrible. To me, fandom goes one to two teams deep. That's it.

Now team "hate" goes deeper. You can hate up to every other team if you like, although I find the line of true dislike is more like 20% of the league, including division rivals, teams featuring players you can't stand or constant winners who just need to finally lose. So you can root for a team playing one of those hated teams and have a brief affinity for them.

Like many of us did for the Falcons in the Super Bowl. How many here rooted for the Falcons to beat the Pats? And how many of us are actual Falcons fans? Exactly.

But back to the original point, yea if you have fandom that you feel rises to being a true fan of more than two teams, you're probably a jackhole.

In today's world?? Apart from attending games (I grant that), it's easy to watch all the games of any team and to read minute details on a daily basis of any and all teams just as easy as any local team, particularly NFL.

That is true, but not for free. My wife is a HUGE D-Backs fan. We watched just about every game as part of our basic cable package. Since moving to Colorado, we ended up getting the Extra Innings package the last couple of years. For us, it's worth the extra $$, but I know a lot of people who won't spring for it.

If you do that for all of the major sports, you're looking at around $600 or so. It's not insignificant.

That is true, but not for free. My wife is a HUGE D-Backs fan. We watched just about every game as part of our basic cable package. Since moving to Colorado, we ended up getting the Extra Innings package the last couple of years. For us, it's worth the extra $$, but I know a lot of people who won't spring for it.

If you do that for all of the major sports, you're looking at around $600 or so. It's not insignificant.

It's completely insignificant to the cost of attending games, buying jerseys, etc. $600 is nothing for the chance to watch nearly every game from every league all year long. It would get you most of the way to a single season ticket for the Wizards in the nosebleeds.

The point is that not everyone can afford that luxury. Comparing it to season tickets is moot.

The point is that not everyone can afford that luxury. Comparing it to season tickets is moot.

I dunno, it's less than 2 bucks a day if $600 is the real figure for the four major sports. That's if you have a team you have to follow in all four of the major sports. He was talking nose bleeds for 41 Wizards games. If you are willing to spend $600 for all four leagues, you aren't going out to eat/movies/etc all the time. If you watch only half of your teams games you are spending 600 to see 8 NFL, 41 NBA, 41 NHL and 81 MLB so about $3.50 a game.

The point is that not everyone can afford that luxury. Comparing it to season tickets is moot.

If you can't afford $600 over the course of a year then you've got much bigger problems than watching sports.

If you can't afford $600 over the course of a year then you've got much bigger problems than watching sports.

I consider spending $600 on sports programming or tickets as more than enough, even for a decent level sports fan. I don't think anyone who is not willing to spend more than that deserves to be called destitute. Maybe adjust your priorities (or at least your seeming desire to impose them on others).

I consider spending $600 on sports programming or tickets as more than enough, even for a decent level sports fan. I don't think anyone who is not willing to spend more than that deserves to be called destitute. Maybe adjust your priorities (or at least your seeming desire to impose them on others).

You're intentionally misreading what I said in the context of the discussion or your just dense. Either way, fuck off.

You're intentionally misreading what I said in the context of the discussion or your just dense. Either way, fuck off.

Welp, reporting posts still isn't working I guess? I tried, at least.

I consider spending $600 on sports programming or tickets as more than enough, even for a decent level sports fan. I don't think anyone who is not willing to spend more than that deserves to be called destitute. Maybe adjust your priorities (or at least your seeming desire to impose them on others).

Mind if I +1 so that I can at least share your fuck off?

Mind if I +1 so that I can at least share your fuck off?

Welcome to the party!

That's terrible. To me, fandom goes one to two teams deep. That's it.

Now team "hate" goes deeper. You can hate up to every other team if you like, although I find the line of true dislike is more like 20% of the league, including division rivals, teams featuring players you can't stand or constant winners who just need to finally lose. So you can root for a team playing one of those hated teams and have a brief affinity for them.

Like many of us did for the Falcons in the Super Bowl. How many here rooted for the Falcons to beat the Pats? And how many of us are actual Falcons fans? Exactly.

But back to the original point, yea if you have fandom that you feel rises to being a true fan of more than two teams, you're probably a jackhole.

Team "hate" I don't quite get, to be honest. At least not at the professional level. At the collegiate level, it's a little different. Maybe that's hypocritical? I don't know. Don't much care. But for me, once the money enters the equation, it ain't personal, it's business.

Kansas can go fuck themselves.

The Giants, on the other hand? I don't "hate" them. I don't root for them to lose; I root for the Dodgers to beat them. I root for my team to do good things, and if in the execution of doing good things, they should beat their rivals, so much the better. But at that level the idea of "yeah yeah we didn't do the thing but at least the OTHER guys didn't do the thing either" is just nihilistic sports fandom to me. I can't grok it.

I hate the Yankees and NY Rangers more than I hate some people.

You're intentionally misreading what I said in the context of the discussion or your just dense. Either way, fuck off.

Let's take a week to rethink this one.

I hate the Yankees and NY Rangers more than I hate some people.

When I think about this in reference to myself, its immature but I can't help but to feel the way I feel.

I have an unhealthy hatred for Tom Brady. Later is his career he's proven to be a viable NFL QB. Early in his career, he was put in a position not to fail. The defense and Adam Vinatieri has more to do with those early SB than he does, yet he gets so much credit. I also have an unhealthy man love for Peyton Manning, who is the best QB in the history of the NFL, no question.

When Jeter got older I appreciated him as a player. When he was younger, I had the same unhealthy hate for him. Several folks here roasted me when I celebrated the time when he dislocated his shoulder early in the season and was going to miss considerable time.

At this same time, I had a good doe of hatred for the Yankees. I still dislike them but its not the same. This generation of the Yankees hasn't signed away Mike Mussina. We'll see after next season when Muchado is a FA.

I say root for who you want and forgot what everyone else thinks. I feel in love with Duke because of Grant Hill. Been a fan ever since. JJ Redick is my favorite basketball player ever. I'm sure when Coach K leaves and they're not what they have been for the last 25 years I'll lose interest.

In all honesty, I probably get more enjoyment in sports from watching teams I hate lose than I do from my teams winning, because my teams rarely win it all. Sure, I haven't seen IU basketball win it all since I became a fan in 1989, but I've gotten to watch Duke and Kentucky fail many times. And it is always sweet.

I tend to hate the shirt, I don't really tend to hate players that much. Just the teams they are on. In the era of free agency, it's hard to hate players a lot because he might end up on your favorite club.

watch Duke and Kentucky fail many times. And it is always sweet.

Particularly for the latest tournament but also going back years, that is the desired outcome. Anybody but Duke or UK is all that matters.

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I consider spending $600 on sports programming or tickets as more than enough, even for a decent level sports fan. I don't think anyone who is not willing to spend more than that deserves to be called destitute. Maybe adjust your priorities (or at least your seeming desire to impose them on others).

Indeed. For some people $600 extra on sports is more than excessive and they'd prefer to spend that on something else. For others what that person chooses to spend the $600 is excessive. Think about if someone said if you can't spend $600 on theater tickets/designer clothes/whatever then you have bigger problems.