The new season kicks off on Thursday, Sept. 3rd! 5 straight days of games over Labor Day weekend.

There is only one match up between Top 25 teams to start the season:

Wisconsin vs. Alabama (at AT&T Stadium, Arlington TX)

I won't post in one of these threads once the season starts but I will lurk. Can't wait to see which one of you is the first to complain about a call I make. :)

That ref is blind!!! What kind of call was that!!!

I won't post in one of these threads once the season starts but I will lurk. Can't wait to see which one of you is the first to complain about a call I make. :)

I think we already did that after the Dr Pepper halftime contest last year :D

Can I get a list of the games you ref so I can avoid watching the trainwrecks.

Good luck this season, Dr.

Will Texas be any good this year? Do they have any players left after last year's purge?

Will Texas be any good this year?

Not without a QB.

Interested to see how TCU does with all the eyes and the hype that is going with them.

Will Texas be any good this year? Do they have any players left after last year's purge?

No clue how they will do. They did lose a lot to graduation on the defensive side, but some of the new freshmen that are coming in (Malik Jefferson for one) look really promising. On offense, the O-line has to play better than last year, and QB is going to be a question mark. I think if they were playing Rice the first game of the season instead of a trip to Notre Dame, that Jerrod Heard would be the starter. They are moving to an uptempo offense, as opposed to the pro style attack they used last season. I'm guessing they will end up in the 7 to 9 win range this season. Based on his past history, the big jumps in performance for Charlie Strong teams are in years 3 and 4.

Does MJ4H still come around? 'cause Arkansas hopefully won't cover the 33 point spread against UTEP when we meet. Yeah, I said it!

Was hoping Jefferson would be an Aggie - he's a good one. How is Jonathan Gray looking? Big fan of his in HS

I dont see any scenario where yall hit 9 wins. Saw Heard play at Guyer a few times and while he is a good runner, his passing left something to be desired. Maybe he improved on that during his time on the acres

Im not real optimistic about the Hawks this season. I went through there schedule and figure a 7-5 season is what will happen.
The OTs are young and inexperienced. And not super talented yet.
I think we have speed in our skill players. But Iowa doesn't like speed much. or the players aren't great practice players. Just game breakers. Which means they sit.
A new QB. But one that is mobile and has a rocket for an arm.
RB by committee. They should be pretty good, though.

The D line should be solid. The LBs hopefully average. The DBs should be ok at corner, weak at safety.

But, hey, Iowa does have 2 punters and 2 kickers on scholarship. But I think a walk on is punting.

Was hoping Jefferson would be an Aggie - he's a good one. How is Jonathan Gray looking? Big fan of his in HS

I dont see any scenario where yall hit 9 wins. Saw Heard play at Guyer a few times and while he is a good runner, his passing left something to be desired. Maybe he improved on that during his time on the acres

Gray looks like he is all the way back from the Achilles injury. He'll be the workhorse this year, since Malcolm Brown graduated. But it will depend on the OL improving over the trainwreck they were last season. There are some people hoping that Swoopes and/or Heard have something similar happen like to Boynkin when TCU went up-tempo last year. But again, to me the key will be how the offensive line performs. If they can't open any running lanes or protect the QB, then the defense will have to carry a lot of water this season.

I'm going out on a big limb here.

Mizzou will win the SEC East.

Clemson lost so much talent fro last years great Defense. A full 9 startes are gone and given a few recent injuries and attrition there is more than 6,000 snaps from last year not available.

Anything more than 8-4, 9-3 will be a success

Ohio St. @ Virginia Tech, TCU @ Minnesota, Louisville vs. Auburn, Texas @ Notre Dame, Arizona St. vs. Texas A&M, Michigan @ Utah, and BYU @ Nebraska are all real good week one games as well.

Apparently Ohio State's most promising young WR just suffered a serious injury in practice. The top 3 returning WRs are already suspended against VT so it's going to be a thin WR group in week one for Ohio State. Braxton Miller is going to get a workout in his first game.

Don't forget Chris Petersen returning to his old stomping grounds in Boise. Also the 3rd time Washington & the Broncos have played in the last 4 years.

There's a reason why Bud hasn't gotten a head coaching job.

Asshole College Football Coach Comes Up With New Way To Screw Over His Players (http://deadspin.com/asshole-college-football-coach-comes-up-with-new-way-to-1726804159)

There's a reason why Bud hasn't gotten a head coaching job.

He's more deserving of an HC job than a lot of the prima donnas who end up attending college are deserving of being on a campus.

Anything that busts the absurdity of making them professional athletes while coddling them, I'm all for.

Go Blue! Interested to see what Michigan looks like with Harbaugh.

He's more deserving of an HC job than a lot of the prima donnas who end up attending college.

Anything that busts the absurdity of making them professional athletes while coddling them, I'm all for.

Bud is an X&O mastermind.
The reason he isn't a head coach is because he cant fund raise, he cant schmooze boosters and he is a marginal recruiter.

Fun side story. In 2008/2009 he interviewed for the Clemson HC gig. This is a verbatim exchange. (The interview, like all first interviews during that search, was taped)
AD: A lot of boosters are clamoring for the interim HC to be hired. We really like what you bring to the table. Of course pleasing boosters is necessary to fund raising. If we hired you, we would have a meeting with a select handful of associates and let you address them first. What would you say to convince them you were the right hire.
Bud: Honestly I dont give a flip what they think. Hire me I will win games, dont hire me and I will make sure to beat your ass everytime we play you. It is that simple.

Sounds cute. Sounds hard core. Sounds Lombardi-esque...doesnt sound like the CEO of a mult million dollar corporation.

Bud is an X&O mastermind.
The reason he isn't a head coach is because he cant fund raise, he cant schmooze boosters and he is a marginal recruiter.


Basically, this. Have heard a number of similar stories to yours.

I think the fining thing is kind of funny, but it's terrible PR for him and VPI and will certainly be used by others against VPI in recruiting.

Pumped for the Wisconsin/Bama game.

The Badgers have a fairly easy schedule this year so if they can pull off the upset against Alabama (and they can...Badgers Defense going to be stout again this year) they could make the Big 10 Championship with zero or 1 loss. Hopefully they can do better than the clown stomping they got last year....

Biggest questions for the Badgers will be their offensive line.. Shocker, right?

There's a reason why Bud hasn't gotten a head coaching job.

Asshole College Football Coach Comes Up With New Way To Screw Over His Players (http://deadspin.com/asshole-college-football-coach-comes-up-with-new-way-to-1726804159)

What a douche.

Does MJ4H still come around? 'cause Arkansas hopefully won't cover the 33 point spread against UTEP when we meet. Yeah, I said it!

I'll take the heat... but I had the line set at 28.5 with my numbers so I think you should cover (especially if we get up early and decide to protect Collins now)

Not without a QB.

Interested to see how TCU does with all the eyes and the hype that is going with them.As an outside observer I wish Kyler Murray had gone to UT... instead we have to deal with a QB time share at A&M between two really good players and a UT held back by poor QB play.

ND looks good, but still thin in a few important places (RB & DL). Between Jaylon Smith, Kei'Varae Russell and Sheldon Day they have a potential AA at every level, but the Jarron Jones injury kills our DL depth. Getting Texas opening week this year is a blessing, @UVa is a little dicey, but really GT is the huge potential September land mine. Get through that and October should be a lot of fun with @ Clemson and USC. Anything past that is too far to project.

UMass should actually be a MAC contender in this, our last year in conference. Non-con isn't bad at all outside of the trip to ND - I like Colorado's coach, but I'm not willing to buy in to them being that much better yet, and Temple at a neutral site (plus @ FIU) is a winnable game. Fingers crossed for a bowl game before we enter the wilderness of FBS independence. Or at least for a healthy season from Frohnapfel and Tajae Sharpe - Tajae is better than Victor Cruz was in college imo, really intrigued to see how his NFL career plays out.

I'm buying Sark's first victory shot!

Top QB recruit, Josh Rosen, won the UCLA starting QB job.

Ohio St. @ Virginia Tech, TCU @ Minnesota, Louisville vs. Auburn, Texas @ Notre Dame, Arizona St. vs. Texas A&M, Michigan @ Utah, and BYU @ Nebraska are all real good week one games as well.

When I saw this in your list, I was thinking "that's going to be a slaughter". I had to remind myself that Minnesota wasn't terrible last year.

I'm buying Sark's first victory shot!

You sure never miss a shot to troll USC...



I'm hoping for a bounceback season for IU after last year's debacle following the Sudfeld injury. He's back and healthy, and we'll need him to stay that way, because there is still a big drop-off to QB2. We'll sure miss Tevin Coleman, but UAB transfer Jordan Howard should be a bruiser behind one of the better o-lines in the Big Ten. Our d-line and linebackers should be the best IU has had in recent memory. The secondary is inexperienced but more physically talented than what we usually have. If Sudfeld stays healthy (and the secondary is decent), I can see 7 wins. If he goes down, it could be another year of pain.

Sure I do! :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNb7hg4WIAAskpk.jpg:orig

Basically, this. Have heard a number of similar stories to yours.

I think the fining thing is kind of funny, but it's terrible PR for him and VPI and will certainly be used by others against VPI in recruiting.

It is a PR problem. It kinda laughable that the dolts at Deadspin would think that an ASSISTANT COACH/COORDINATOR would have the authority to implement program wide policy.

VT is also the first school on record to officially state they will not use fines as discipline.

And if you don't think that other programs haven't thought of/implemented the same thing, I don't know what to tell you.

When I saw this in your list, I was thinking "that's going to be a slaughter". I had to remind myself that Minnesota wasn't terrible last year.

Minnesota was real good at home especially. Their only loss was to Ohio St., and they played them tough.

Granted, it could be a slaughter, and I wouldn't be too surprised.

It's Minny. You never know what your going to get.
But I am interested in that game.

Minnesota was real good at home especially. Their only loss was to Ohio St., and they played them tough.

Granted, it could be a slaughter, and I wouldn't be too surprised.

And Wisconsin....

I remember seeing this stuff pop up a couple months ago, but the timing is pretty shocking

Illinois fires coach Tim Beckman after it confirms allegations of player abuse | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/illinois-fires-coach-tim-beckman-after-it-confirms-allegations-of-player-abuse-184529607.html)

Tim Beckman fired as coach of Illinois Fighting Illini (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13533196/tim-beckman-fired-coach-illinois-fighting-illini)

You have to go 25-12 if you are going to treat your players like this, not 12-25.

Why can't they be on our schedule this year?!? :cry:

And Wisconsin....

Minnesota didn't play Wisconsin at home last year.

Why can't they be on our schedule this year?!? :cry:

Rutgers gets Illinois next year after being welcomed into the league with Wisconsin and Nebraska as the crossover games for the first two seasons. :banghead:

Iowa has another cupcake schedule. Maryland and Indiana are our crossover games. And I still think 7-5. So frustrating.

Ooooohhhhhh
Iowa is wearing an alternate uniform. And it's not a throwback. We have a blackout game on 11-14. The Unix haven't been revealed. But they are all black with gold accents. They are made by Nike.
Welcome to the 21st century, Ferentz.

Why can't they be on our schedule this year?!? :cry:

They quit playing Mizzou. Got tired of getting thumped.

They quit playing Mizzou. Got tired of getting thumped.

You mean like last year?
Indiana upsets No. 18 Missouri on D'Angelo Roberts' late TD run (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=400547918)

You mean like last year?
Indiana upsets No. 18 Missouri on D'Angelo Roberts' late TD run (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=400547918)

'Illinois' is spelled differently than 'Indiana'.

So I guess that is why Mizzou quit playing Indiana. They got tired of being thumped.

Back to football news, the FCS starts play tomorrow with the FCS Kickoff Game, North Dakota State at Montana, 2:30pm Central on ESPN.

Back to football news, the FCS starts play tomorrow with the FCS Kickoff Game, North Dakota State at Montana, 2:30pm Central on ESPN.

Always fun to see the same troll who derailed a post pretend to be the one to put it back on track. I'd talk about North Dakota State and Mizzou too if I was a Texas fan.

Why did you bring up Mizzou regarding a comment about Indiana playing Illinois? They are two teams in the same conference. It has no bearing on their schedules if an out-of-conference game is played or not.

Why did you bring up Mizzou regarding a comment about Indiana playing Illinois?

Because it's the first week and it's a clear reminder that they used to play us every 1st week.

Listen, I've literally gone months (at least all of 2015) without responding to a single post you've made. I've made a conscious effort to do so. Meanwhile, you repeatedly troll my posts with snipes and smart-ass remarks. Some on the board have even called you out as a cyber-bully. After this post, I'm going to go back to ignoring your repeated trolling, but stop acting like you're somehow achieving anything by continuing to troll my every response. At some point, it looks ridiculous. You're better than that. Act like it.

Umm.... ok :rolleyes:

Listen, I've literally gone months (at least all of 2015) without responding to a single post you've made. I've made a conscious effort to do so. Meanwhile, you repeatedly troll my posts with snipes and smart-ass remarks. Some on the board have even called you out as a cyber-bully. After this post, I'm going to go back to ignoring your repeated trolling, but stop acting like you're somehow achieving anything by continuing to troll my every response. At some point, it looks ridiculous. You're better than that. Act like it.
The irony of this post is overflowing.

Umm.... ok :rolleyes:

While I agree that it is ridiculous that he make that point, I too have noticed that you're always ready with a response to any of his posts.

Sir, I can a assure you that Cartman is not better than that! Good day!

Wow. That was quick.

The irony of this post is overflowing.

+1

Forbes did a report on the Top 5 ticket prices on the secondary market. Irish season ticket holders that sell are gonna do well this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2015/08/27/notre-dame-iron-bowl-and-red-river-shootout-among-2015s-most-expensive-college-football-tickets/

Game Avg. $ Lowest $
Texas at Notre Dame $705 $292
Alabama at Georgia $585 $285
USC at Notre Dame $531 $222
Alabama at Auburn $514 $273
Oklahoma v. Texas $480 $192

He totally missed Clemson - Notre Dame.

Cheapest tickets on stub hub are $285 now.
I personally sold 4 for $850 each. In the upper deck.

I have a friend who got $3,000 for a pair.

It looks like per Google the average Clemson ND ticket is around 400. Get in about 274. The article ranked them on average so that's why they aren't in the top five. Who knows how good or reliable the data is.

http://www.bebizzy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/539594_295451407255016_1833012427_n.jpg

This has been a fun game to watch so far. Would be even better if we didn't have to hear Musburger OVEREMPHASIZE every OTHER word.

Yeah, the defense certainly looks like they are trying to get their legs underneath them. It's no surprise that the offensive line is starting open up some big holes as the massive size advantage starts to take hold. I'd expect the game to stay close with the Bison pulling away in the 4th as the Montana defense wears out. In the meantime, the NDSU defense is playing well, but a bit more pressure would be good too.

This has been a fun game to watch so far. Would be even better if we didn't have to hear Musburger OVEREMPHASIZE every OTHER word.

SHUT your MOUTH, cartman.

That's a KEY point, DIGAMMAHHH

This IS one HELL of A game. TURN on YOUR tv if YOUUU are NOT watching.

fuck

Sorry, PilotMan. That was a hell of a game. Montana scored the winning TD with 2 seconds left. I'm so happy that college football is back!

My dad just called and said, are you ready to head to Columbia next Saturday? WOOT WOOT!

Good luck this season, Dr.

Thanks...looking forward to it.

Can I get a list of the games you ref so I can avoid watching the trainwrecks.

Because watching Furman football isn't a trainwreck enough?

Coastal Carolina is joining the Sun Belt. That'll make 130 FBS teams in 2017.

Coastal Carolina's move to Sun Belt will result in 130 FBS teams for 2017 - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25286631/coastal-carolinas-sun-belt-addition-makes-130-fbs-teams-for-2017)

Is 130 an important number or just a fact?

3 days 23 hours and 51 minutes to Iowa football!!!!

Coastal Carolina is joining the Sun Belt. That'll make 130 FBS teams in 2017.

Coastal Carolina's move to Sun Belt will result in 130 FBS teams for 2017 - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25286631/coastal-carolinas-sun-belt-addition-makes-130-fbs-teams-for-2017)

And there was much rejoicing!

On the eve of a great Ameerican holiday a really good article on X&O Defense of Patterson and TCU. This is 400 level stuff if not graduate school stuff.

Hard Knocks: Playing Defense With TCU’s Gary Patterson « (http://grantland.com/features/hard-knocks-playing-defense-with-tcus-gary-patterson/)

Go Blue! Interested to see what Michigan looks like with Harbaugh.

HARBAUGH

Another EXCELLENT read here.
Why Jim Harbaugh and Michigan May Not Live Happily Ever After | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2555507-why-jim-harbaugh-and-michigan-may-not-live-happily-ever-after)

Harbaugh is a manimal but that Beamer story...

On the eve of a great Ameerican holiday a really good article on X&O Defense of Patterson and TCU. This is 400 level stuff if not graduate school stuff.

Hard Knocks: Playing Defense With TCU’s Gary Patterson « (http://grantland.com/features/hard-knocks-playing-defense-with-tcus-gary-patterson/)

What a fantastic read. Thanks for posting. Forwarding this on to some other buds that would get a kick out of this.

On the eve of a great Ameerican holiday a really good article on X&O Defense of Patterson and TCU. This is 400 level stuff if not graduate school stuff.

Hard Knocks: Playing Defense With TCU’s Gary Patterson « (http://grantland.com/features/hard-knocks-playing-defense-with-tcus-gary-patterson/)Chris Brown is awesome. I highly recommend most of his Grantland articles and the SmartFootball website.

Iowa' starting QB the last 2 seasons starts for Michigan tonight. I hope he has a great game to show how inept KF is.

North and South Carolina are playing like they bet on each other.

Iowa' starting QB the last 2 seasons starts for Michigan tonight. I hope he has a great game to show how inept KF is.

It seems like KF is validated, at least on that decision. Want him back?

I saw a nice Butt in traffic today.

Looks like a bad opening game result for Harbaugh.

Rudock has an OK arm, but his deep throws have been inaccurate and he telegraphs his throws to such an extent that his poor receivers lose most of their separation. I'd imagine there will be a lot of discussion about 1B over the next week (Harbaugh listed both Rudock and Shane Morris as co-starters).

This isn't a team that's anywhere near competing for the Big Ten title.

It seems like KF is validated, at least on that decision. Want him back?


It's funny. But I thought I was watching Iowa last night. Lots of check downs and over thrown long balls. And a horizontal passing game.

I guess it's the bottom of the B1G, but several RU players arrested yesterday. Cops show up to practice to make arrests, including 2 starting defensive backfield players. And it wasn't jaywalking, rather assault, armed robbery, and more. Yay! Can't wait for Flood to be gone. One of the players had been suspended by coaches several times and was on probation (several of the coaches wanted him off) and the other starter was the player Flood allegedly tried to get better grades. You can't make this stuff up.

I guess it's the bottom of the B1G, but several RU players arrested yesterday. Cops show up to practice to make arrests, including 2 starting defensive backfield players. And it wasn't jaywalking, rather assault, armed robbery, and more. Yay! Can't wait for Flood to be gone. One of the players had been suspended by coaches several times and was on probation (several of the coaches wanted him off) and the other starter was the player Flood allegedly tried to get better grades. You can't make this stuff up.

Do you work for the Star-Ledge or New Jersey Advanced Media?

Looks like a bad opening game result for Harbaugh.Utah was favored by 5. I don't think anyone expected this to be a one year process.

Utah was favored by 5. I don't think anyone expected this to be a one year process.

People forget that he was 9-15 at Stanford when he didn't have Andrew Luck at QB.

Utah was favored by 5. I don't think anyone expected this to be a one year process.

Agreed. Do we remember what Michigan looked like in the last half of last season?

North and South Carolina are playing like they bet on each other.

Sigh... Marquise with 3 red-zone INTs. Turn them into FGs and 13-17 becomes 22-17.

People forget that he was 9-15 at Stanford when he didn't have Andrew Luck at QB.

He also took over a 1-11 team though.

People forget that he was 9-15 at Stanford when he didn't have Andrew Luck at QB.

Yeah what cmp said. Stanford was dreadfully bad when he took over.

Sigh... Marquise with 3 red-zone INTs. Turn them into FGs and 13-17 becomes 22-17.

I thought the decision to go for it on fourth down rather than to take the FG to make it 17-16 was suspect. Other than one big play the defense had held S. Carolina to 10 points. Force a punt and get the ball back with 2 minutes left? Seemed like an easy call, but what do I known.

Do you work for the Star-Ledge or New Jersey Advanced Media?

No, should I?

Yeah what cmp said. Stanford was dreadfully bad when he took over.

Lots of teams go from 1 win to 4/5 win seasons with a coaching change.

Yeah what cmp said. Stanford was dreadfully bad when he took over.Plus he recruited and developed Andrew Luck, he has 4 QB's on campus or committed between the 2015 and 2016 classes (Luck was redshirted FR year too despite the team going 5-7), and the real driver behind those Stanford teams was the bruising offensive line which also takes time to develop. I guess I get that his arrogance has a lot of people rooting against him, and I doubt he stays long-term, but I'd be willing to bet a whole lot on Michigan being very good in 3-4 years. And I'm a Notre Dame fan.

People forget that he was 9-15 at Stanford when he didn't have Andrew Luck at QB.
Um, so? He was 4-8 and 5-7 after taking over one of the worst Pac-10 programs in recent memory, including notching a win over USC back when they were USC.

And why the caveat about Luck? That he got Luck to commit to him was no sure thing; he convinced Luck to believe in what he was building when Luck could have gone just about anywhere he wanted. And then he ensured that Luck lived up to his enormous potential.

Also, Stanford wasn't good simply because of Luck - Harbaugh built a culture of toughness and physical development there that was just as important as any key recruiting win. He built the Cardinal into one of the most bruising and effective running teams in the country and brought in the guys that helped Stanford field one of the strongest defenses in the CFB in the last 5 years.

Harbaugh might be a dick and a real pain in the ass to work with, but he's also one of the very best in the business.

Lots of teams go from 1 win to 4/5 win seasons with a coaching change.

Dude, no offense, but unless you're telling me you were an avid Pac 12 watcher during that time and still hold to this opinion, I'm kinda putting your take aside.

Before Harbaugh was hired, Stanford was putrid. Just terrible. They were beyond doormats. Harbaugh not only changed the kids in that program, he changed the program itself and the whole culture. That wasn't Luck. Luck was just a part of the scene; a key part, yes, but that was Harbaugh's program, through and through.

Harbaugh was so good at Stanford that an, IMO, pedestrian carry over coach in David Shaw has managed to keep that program going good by driving it on cruise control, and it has been what 4-5 years now? Crazy.

Dude, no offense, but unless you're telling me you were an avid Pac 12 watcher during that time and still hold to this opinion, I'm kinda putting your take aside.

Before Harbaugh was hired, Stanford was putrid. Just terrible. They were beyond doormats. Harbaugh not only changed the kids in that program, he changed the program itself and the whole culture. That wasn't Luck. Luck was just a part of the scene; a key part, yes, but that was Harbaugh's program, through and through.

Harbaugh was so good at Stanford that an, IMO, pedestrian carry over coach in David Shaw has managed to keep that program going good by driving it on cruise control, and it has been what 4-5 years now? Crazy.

They weren't putrid. I've seen putrid. Rutgers from 1996 to 2002 was putrid. Duke from the time Steve Spurrier left to the time Cutcliffe got there was terrible. Stanford was a 4 and 5 win team who played a lot of close games against really tough schedules. Walt Harris' first year they were 4-4 in conference and they lost in OT to UCLA's 10 win team and lost to a BCS bound Notre Dame team on a last second TD.

My main point is that Harbaugh doesn't walk on water. He may get Michigan back to the New Year's Day bowls but it's not going to be with Jake Rudock or Shane Morris at QB. Michigan fans should be happy if they win 6 games this year.

Dola,

ABC News in NY reported that Rutgers cancelled it's game tomorrow.

My main point is that Harbaugh doesn't walk on water. He may get Michigan back to the New Year's Day bowls but it's not going to be with Jake Rudock or Shane Morris at QB. Michigan fans should be happy if they win 6 games this year.Sure, but other than the most delusional fans who's arguing against that? Utah was favored by 5 last night, and won by 7. Most people have them finishing the regular season within a game of .500. Doesn't seem like there was a lot of irrational optimism.

My main point is that Harbaugh doesn't walk on water. He may get Michigan back to the New Year's Day bowls but it's not going to be with Jake Rudock or Shane Morris at QB. Michigan fans should be happy if they win 6 games this year.

Yeah, not sure who's really arguing that.

I think it comes down to semantics. Earlier, you were acting like Harbaugh was gifted Luck and based his whole career on that. You went far further into hyperbole in a pessimistic way than any of us in a positive way.

Keep in mind, too, the people defending Harbaugh are people who had every reason to dislike him--a UCLA fan, a UDub fan and a Notre Dame fan.

I know we are going to beat SEMO.. but I'm soooo pumped to see Mizzou football again!!!

Small potatoes on the national scene of course, but Syracuse QB Terrel Hunt already left the field on crutches after missing most of last year with an injury to the same leg. At this level of team mediocrity, there can be a big drop down from your senior starting QB to this skinny true Freshman fella they have out there now.

This Baylor-SMU game has the makings of a 80-78 final score. It is already 28-21 with 9 minutes to go until halftime.

Maybe 80-21.

Baylor runs away. Their freshman stud QB just threw a 30 yard TD strike.

So... the Golden Flashes had their season opener postponed by a seemingly endless lightning storm... could Kent State be more powerful than anyone thought possible?

Rutgers isn't going to forfeit a game to a FCS school over some suspensions. But all those players are probably done.

Michigan will be better than 6-6, but is not a contender in a division that includes MSU and OSU.

Let's hope it was nerves with Rudock. One thing I hadn't thought about before today... Shane Morris is a lefty. As far as the NFL goes, Tim Tebow is in the top ten, all-time, in career passing yardage for a left-hander. Apparently, a lot of coaches hate lefty quarterbacks because it forces them to reverse all their plays and a lot of wide receivers can't handle Aussie spin.

Interesting anecdote - Steve Young almost moved to safety while he was at BYU because offensive coordinator Doug Scovil didn't want to mess with his playbook. Scovil left to be head coach at San Diego State a few months later, and Young got his chance.

I hate tell you this about Rudock, but what you saw is what he is. I doubt it was nerves. He started at Iowa for 2 years. He is a 5th year senior. He is a med student.
He may not throw that many picks in a game again. Maybe. But you better get your run game going if he is going to be effective. He needs lots of 3rd and 3s. He is a check down guy. if he sees someone near his primary he immediately looks for the outlet.

Good luck with Rudock. Great kid. Not a great QB.

With the start of this college football season, let me just wish good will on one player in particular. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Mississippi.

The most gut wrenching sports play I have ever seen happened last year when he broke his leg and fumbled at the 1 inch line as they were on the way to beating Auburn. Wish the guy nothing but the best. I hope he has an injury free, first team SEC season.

What's with the SEC teams starting mediocre transfer QB's?

What's with the SEC teams starting mediocre transfer QB's?

There's only so many bodies to go 'round. And not every high profile recruit pans out, sometimes that leads to ... complications.

If not for the kid from UVA, Georgia might very well have been starting a walk-on today (he's still locked in a battle for the #2 job)

Well tarcone must be pleased so far.

Small potatoes on the national scene of course, but Syracuse QB Terrel Hunt already left the field on crutches after missing most of last year with an injury to the same leg. At this level of team mediocrity, there can be a big drop down from your senior starting QB to this skinny true Freshman fella they have out there now.

Dungey looked pretty good out there. I really feel for Hunt especially with his whole back story, but I think Cuse will be better with Dungey out there this year and the experience can only help immensely for the coming seasons. We had a bunch of frosh and sophs who looked really good. ACC speed and talent in those two classes for sure.

In the Tennessee -bowling Green game Tenn is up 21-10 and BG has it 4 and 3 at their own 12 in the second quarter and they went for it. What was even more incredible is they made it on a 25 yard run. Wow. Don't think I have ever seen that before.

First half of his first game, but Chosen Rosen looks pretty good.

Southern Illinois has almost 400 yards and 31 points on Indiana at halftime. I think they can kiss their bowl hopes goodbye.

First half of his first game, but Chosen Rosen looks pretty good.

28-35, 351 yd, 3 TD

Really strong start. Made some brave throws. And his second TD to Duarte had some amazing touch.

Saying he's the new Manning is crazy, but the kid's good.

Josh Rosen!

Wow. Atrocious clock management by Bobby Petrino. Cost them any chance of a comeback.

There goes talk of Hackenburg being a first round NFL pick. Holds the ball way too long and even though the o-line didn't help, he made Temple looks like the 1981 Jets.

Wow. Atrocious clock management by Bobby Petrino. Cost them any chance of a comeback.

I somehow missed this when flipping. What happened or do you have a clip?

BYU wins on a hail mary over Nebraska. With the play, comes one of my biggest beefs in all of sports:

Why in the hell does pass interference not count on a hail mary play? Can we just put this in the rules so there is no confusion anymore? The BYU player had 2 Nebraska players on his back before the ball got there and had the pass been incomplete, there would have been no call. That would have been the end of the game.
So strange.

The new QB for Louisville looks amazing. Arkansas, Tennessee and UCLA all impressed me this afternoon.

I somehow missed this when flipping. What happened or do you have a clip?

Penalty called with 53 seconds left. Louisville had one time out and the penalty set up a 3rd down situation. They did not need to call a TO to stop the clock, it was going to stay stopped. instead Louisville calls a TO allowing Auburn to run the clock down to 3 seconds before the 4th down play. Auburn throws a bomb that never had a chance to be complete to wipe out the clock. Ballgame.

Penalty called with 53 seconds left. Louisville had one time out and the penalty set up a 3rd down situation. They did not need to call a TO to stop the clock, it was going to stay stopped. instead Louisville calls a TO allowing Auburn to run the clock down to 3 seconds before the 4th down play. Auburn throws a bomb that never had a chance to be complete to wipe out the clock. Ballgame.

Thanks. I saw a Louisville blogger on Twitter say that Petrino was told by the ref that the clock would have started after the penalty.

Drew Lock looks to be the real deal.

Drew Lock looks to be the real deal.

He did look pretty polished but don't forget it is SEMO. :) Unsure where I stand on this QB situation. Mauk looks completely lost sometimes but it's hard to argue with how he performs at the end of games and his W/L record. Not sure if creating a controversy by burning Locks redshirt will motivate Mauk or make him more nervous because we know Pinkel is loyal to a fault to his guys.

Thanks. I saw a Louisville blogger on Twitter say that Petrino was told by the ref that the clock would have started after the penalty.

I swear I saw him say, "I fucked up" over the headset.

My kicker sucks more than your kicker!

WTF is up with that play calling by Kevin Sumlin? The young QB has been out running ASU's defense most of the night and he runs three dive plays.

Probably have run out of time, but at least Furman have made it interesting. Down 3 with 1 minute left to future FBS school Coastal Carolina.

Does MJ4H still come around? 'cause Arkansas hopefully won't cover the 33 point spread against UTEP when we meet. Yeah, I said it!

Haven't seen him around but I'm a Razorback fan. It went as expected and we covered the spread.

We kept our QB in longer than I thought necessary. Our defense didn't look as impressive as late last season. Looking forward to this season.

Arkansas, Tennessee and UCLA all impressed me this afternoon.

Huh (on the bold)?

If that's how the defense plays, that team will need a miracle to win 7 games. Nice work by the offense at least numerically but still no pass defense.

Small potatoes on the national scene of course, but Syracuse QB Terrel Hunt already left the field on crutches after missing most of last year with an injury to the same leg. At this level of team mediocrity, there can be a big drop down from your senior starting QB to this skinny true Freshman fella they have out there now.

What is the opinion of Schaeffer among the fans?
I love his interviews. I make it a point to track down his pressers everyw eek and watch them. Id hate him to leave for this reason alone, that said he seems so far over his head it isnt funny.

This Baylor-SMU game has the makings of a 80-78 final score. It is already 28-21 with 9 minutes to go until halftime.

Chad Morris will make SMU relevant again, it will take him a couple years. But they hung tough with his first teamers who were mostly freshman he just signed. Once depth started playing a roll Baylor pulled away. But give my buddy Chad a few years and watch out.


The new QB for Louisville looks amazing. Arkansas, Tennessee and UCLA all impressed me this afternoon.

You dont REALLY believe the bolded do you?
If that was impressive Im not sure what they could have done to be unimpressive.

Ha..didnt see Jon's post or style before I posted, I swear.

Iowa beat up on Illinois St. Today. Jumped out 31-0. Then cruised to a 31-14 win.

1st couple drives were awesome. Then they couldn't do anything for 2 quarters. Then moved it again.

I really like our offensive backfield.

I have just become optimistic.

Go Hawks!

Norte Dame with an impressive dismantling of Texas for what that is worth.

ND was very impressive in nearly ever phase.

As a kid who grew up in a Catholic Boarding school ran by a priest who graduated from ND who dreamed of playing for the Irish, who morphed into an adult who doesnt really like the Irish at all I am really looking forward to seeing them play (for the first time live) when they visit Clemson in a few weeks.

CU: Do you know the story on Da'Qwan Bowers being released? Is it just the knees or is there more to it?

Huh (on the bold)?

If that's how the defense plays, that team will need a miracle to win 7 games. Nice work by the offense at least numerically but still no pass defense.


I was flipping through the games and didn't realize they gave up as many yards as they did. they seemed good on third downs to me (and when I looked it up they allowed only 4-18) Offense looked cool and efficient.

I don't think they are beating Alabama or anything, but when I watched, I thought they looked good. go figure .. .

I was flipping through the games and didn't realize they gave up as many yards as they did. they seemed good on third downs to me (and when I looked it up they allowed only 4-18) Offense looked cool and efficient.

I don't think they are beating Alabama or anything, but when I watched, I thought they looked good. go figure .. .


This team was in such a hole, even just in terms of talent on campus, when Jones arrived. 15 true freshmen played today (23 played last year in the opener). It's a process, I get that, and the situation was pretty effin' dire but there's reasons that they weren't in my Top 25 this week, and reasons I've pretty much laughed at those who put them in a division title conversation this preseason. Today pretty much validated my feelings on those subjects.

COULD they end up in my Top 25, even sooner rather than later? Yeah, but that says more about the lack of top notch teams in CFB today than about UT. I can't see them even sniffing a division title even if they were on paper a "top 25 team"

It's so good to see USC football again.

What is the opinion of Schaeffer among the fans?
I love his interviews. I make it a point to track down his pressers everyw eek and watch them. Id hate him to leave for this reason alone, that said he seems so far over his head it isnt funny.



We (I) like him. He has a little to learn being that this is his first head coaching gig. He has the potential to be a good coach and wasn't afraid to make some pretty drastic changes in his staff to get things right. Clemson fans are a little salty about him cause he F-bombed that douche of a coach you have.

USC has 3 freshman running backs that are very talented. They all look good tonight.

Coastal Carolina started their last FCS season with a win over Furman 38-35. The last three games with Furman have either gone into OT or been close, so I'm not too worried that this was close.

CU: Do you know the story on Da'Qwan Bowers being released? Is it just the knees or is there more to it?

I havent talked to DB in probably 2 years so take this with a grain on salt.

That said he fell in the draft partially because of the knee and partially because he has never loved football. He wasnt forced to play by a parent or anything, he just never lived for it. He was always much more interested in his music and ministry work, even as a high schooler. His father passed away the summer before his last year at Clemson and that was his motivation to fully dedicate himself temporarily, NFL was his fathers biggest dream and told him often that the NFL could change his life, his family's life and allow him to do a lot of charitable work with the proceeds if that was his calling.

I know during the draft process he told one GM he hopes to play 5 years and then retire with his health and wealth and play music with his church group.

Again zero inside info here, but not the least bit surprising either.

I'll be interested to see if he ever tries catch on with another team.

He did look pretty polished but don't forget it is SEMO. :) Unsure where I stand on this QB situation. Mauk looks completely lost sometimes but it's hard to argue with how he performs at the end of games and his W/L record. Not sure if creating a controversy by burning Locks redshirt will motivate Mauk or make him more nervous because we know Pinkel is loyal to a fault to his guys.

I'm mostly talking about his calmness and ability to get out of the pocket and find the receiver. His passes are also just spot on. I'm not sure he can scramble like Mauk.. but the kid really impresses me with his accurate passes. :)

I'm hoping this receiver core can develop more and more each game.

We (I) like him. He has a little to learn being that this is his first head coaching gig. He has the potential to be a good coach and wasn't afraid to make some pretty drastic changes in his staff to get things right. Clemson fans are a little salty about him cause he F-bombed that douche of a coach you have.

Wow. If that is how you think I feel about him or why you are wrong. Heck Dabo doesnt care about the F-Bomb he and Kathleen went on a short vacation this February with Scott and his wife so there is obviously no hard feelings there.

The question was more about winning a bowl game his first season then going 3-9 last year and then his press conferences are great.

Not sur eI understand the douche comment in regards to Dabo either but not sure it is worth getting into either.

Alabama took Wisconsin to the woodshed but there were some positives to take away for a Badger fan. Joel Stave didn't look half bad.

Not sure anybody will challenge Wisconsin in the West for the right to get trounced by OSU in the Big Ten championship. Minnesota, maybe?

I'd like to see Wisconsin meet up with Arkansas in a bowl game :)

BYU loses Taysom for the season again and I think Taysom is done in his career. He has a lis franc injury, and is gone.

It's going to be an interesting ride with Tanner Magnum as our QB as the fact he was knocking on doors as a missionary 3 months ago. The 2nd stringer now is Beau Hoge, Merrills son and the 3rd string is Koy Detmer Jr,

Dungey looked pretty good out there. I really feel for Hunt especially with his whole back story, but I think Cuse will be better with Dungey out there this year and the experience can only help immensely for the coming seasons. We had a bunch of frosh and sophs who looked really good. ACC speed and talent in those two classes for sure.

He did look very poised, but, you know, Rhode Island. And he was a very lightly recruited guy (other offers were from Wyoming, Yale, Air Force, Harvard, UNLV). And I know they were expecting a big year from Hunt. But, it does open the door to a guy who could now be a 4-year starter if he can show that same poise going forward and keep getting better.

Anyone know why the play below was a penalty?

P. Mroz pass for a SAFETY,to P. Mroz for -1 yds for a SAFETY - ESPN Video (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13585959)

2 forward passes on one play

I havent talked to DB in probably 2 years so take this with a grain on salt.

That said he fell in the draft partially because of the knee and partially because he has never loved football. He wasnt forced to play by a parent or anything, he just never lived for it. He was always much more interested in his music and ministry work, even as a high schooler. His father passed away the summer before his last year at Clemson and that was his motivation to fully dedicate himself temporarily, NFL was his fathers biggest dream and told him often that the NFL could change his life, his family's life and allow him to do a lot of charitable work with the proceeds if that was his calling.

I know during the draft process he told one GM he hopes to play 5 years and then retire with his health and wealth and play music with his church group.

Again zero inside info here, but not the least bit surprising either.

I'll be interested to see if he ever tries catch on with another team.

Thanks. I'm glad it isn't injuries cutting short what he loved to do. Sounds like he just fits in a different place than the NFL.

btw- DeShawn Wiliams ended up on the Bengals practice squad. He looked really good in preseason. I hope they can find a way to get him on the field.

Williams is the opposite. Loves the game. Prototypical "would play for free" guy. Hope he sticks and makes a 53 eventually ...not bad for a guy who rarely started in college.

Haven't seen him around but I'm a Razorback fan. It went as expected and we covered the spread.

We kept our QB in longer than I thought necessary. Our defense didn't look as impressive as late last season. Looking forward to this season.

Injuries decimated our secondary and our true freshmen corners got toasted yesterday. Best of luck to you guys this season...

Lungs, watch out for Iowa. Im cautiously optimistic about this season.

Kind of unfortunate for the kid to have the things he said at halftime highlighted and then get crushed in the 2nd half.

Yeah, that looked bad right away. Looked like all 300 pounds of Washington landed on the shoulder.

Holy shit that spin move was something.

Cardale Jones reminds me of Roethlisberger. Though I hope that when he's drafted, he doesn't eat his way out of the NFL like JaMarcus Russell.

I don't think Ben ever ran like that. Given his lack of experience I think Cardale could be really special. His touch on the ball is really good and obviously has a cannon for an arm.

I don't think Ben ever ran like that. Given his lack of experience I think Cardale could be really special. His touch on the ball is really good and obviously has a cannon for an arm.

You're right. I was talking more about his ability to avoid pressure.

Someone forgot to tell Virginia Tech that these games have two halves. :eek:

Williams is the opposite. Loves the game. Prototypical "would play for free" guy. Hope he sticks and makes a 53 eventually ...not bad for a guy who rarely started in college.

He looked like a poor man's Geno Atkins this preseason. I think he makes the 53 next year easily or gets called up when injuries hit this year.

k, a broken collarbone is seriously harsh bad luck there.

If he's back by the Miami game though, it might be survivable for the team since their schedule is backloaded.

Furman, at Purdue, at ECU, Pitt, NC State on the slate before Miami

Coastal Carolina is now #1 in the coaches poll, #3 in the media poll since all four teams that were above them, lost while Coastal squeaked by Furman.