I know we've probably done this before, but I figure what the hell, why not it run again?

But we'll be operating under Izuldean Rules for this one.

What that means is, each person wanting to submit nominees must come up with a list of 10 shows. The order in which you list the 10 shows you nominate does not matter for seeding purposes. Seeding will instead be determined how many top 10 votes a show gets and tiebreakers will be handled via a secret system of my own devising.

Hopefully we'll have at least 64 different shows nominated so I can set up a 64 member tournament. Then we'll have the usual vote-offs, round by round. Also, when I set up the brackets, I'm not necessarily going to try pitting the same types of shows against each other. Hence, you could very well have a situation where The Wire goes against My Little Pony or some such.

It can be any show; drama, historical, cartoon, kids, sitcom, whatever. The choice is yours. Also, the criteria you use to determine Greatest Shows Ever is up to you. It can be critically acclaimed, it can be favorites, whatever you want. Nor is there a set of number of seasons the show had to run. Yes, mini-series and shows like David Letterman and Sportscenter count.

Nomination thread will remain open for week. I'm tabulating nominations as they're posted. If you make any changes, please PM me with the shows you're adding and dropping so I can update the tally more easily.

I'll start off with my 10 nominations. Again, the order does not matter.

1. The Wire
2. The Wonder Years
3. Voltron
4. Hell's Kitchen
5. Joan of Arcadia
6. Dream On
7. The Shield
8. ALF
9. South Park
10. iCarly

lol iCarly!!!!

lol iCarly!!!!

Yeah I figured I'd get shit for that one, but I was really scrambling with the last few because it's hard for me to remember a lot of the older shows I watched. I figure my questionable last few listings that I'd probably change if I had to do it over will be superseded by others.

...Although you never know. Maybe iCarly makes it after all. :D

dola, I'd probably take Saved By The Bell off if I had to do it again. I'm wondering why I put it there now.

Seinfeld
The Wonder Years
Monk
Family Ties
Perfect Strangers
Friends
American Idol
Top Chef
The Mole
Whose Line Is It Anyway

I don't usually do these, but:

1. The Simpsons
2. Seinfeld
3. M*A*S*H
4. The X-Files
5. 24
6. Battlestar Galactica (new version)
7. Arrested Development
8. Survivor
9. Frasier
10. Cheers

cartman's crew:

1. South Park
2. The Sopranos
3. The Wire
4. Good Times
5. Seinfeld
6. Scooby Doo
7. Beavis and Butthead
8. WKRP in Cincinnati
9. MacGyver
10. Hogan's Heroes

1. M*A*S*H
2. Sports Night
3. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
4. Charmed
5. King of Hill
6. Happy Days
7. I love Lucy
8. All in the Family
9. Good Eats
10. Hee Haw

Dexter
Beavis and Butthead
The Sopranos
Survivor
Everybody Loves Raymond
Seinfeld
Cheers
Alias
Six Feet Under
NCIS

1) MASH
2) Cheers
3) ER
4) Burn Notice
5) X Files
6) Andy Griffith Show
7) Happy Days
8) WKRP in Cincinnati
9) Leave it to Beaver
10) Wizards of Waverly Place

1. The Wire
2. The Shield
3. Seinfeld
4. South Park
5. Oz
6. Deadwood
7. Married With Children
8. Lost
9. Homicide Life on the Street
10. Veronica Mars

I'll give it a try from some of my favorites over the years:

1. Survivor
2. The Office
3. Sportscenter
4. Lost
5. Beverly Hills 90210
6. Seinfeld
7. The Twilight Zone
8. Saturday Night Live
9. Wonder Years
10. The Simpsons

If Sportscenter is ineligible, I'd go with the Golden Girls as a replacement.

the wire
hill street blues
married with children
cheers
30 rock
survivor
seinfeld
dexter
the good wife (sorry for this one, but i like it)
rome

1. Sopranos
2. The Wire
3. Mad Men
4. Deadwood
5. No Reservations w/ Anthony Bourdain
6. M*A*S*H
7. West Wing
8. South Park
9. Beavis and Butthead
10. Band of Brothers

1. M*A*S*H*
2. Sports Night
3. Dr. Who
4. West Wing
5. XFiles
6. Sliders
7. Quantum Leap
8. Big Bang Theory
9. Hogans Heroes
10. Survivor

1. Seinfeld
2. Dexter
3. I Love Lucy
4. The Twilight Zone
5. The Simpsons
6. ER
7. Frasier
8. House
9. The Honeymooners
10. M*A*S*H

gah! Forgot about House.

Seinfeld looks like the early favorite.

Dang, I cant believe I forgot about the Twilight Zone. I love the New Years Marathon on SyFy every year.

1. The Wire
2. The Sopranos
3. ER
4. South Park
5. The Simpsons
6. The Office (UK version, not the american which isn't even close.)
7. Extras
8. Quantum Leap
9. Californication
10. Get Smart

Surprised Band of Brothers isn't getting more love with the rules being pretty open.

Surprised Band of Brothers isn't getting more love with the rules being pretty open.

Yeah, even with the open-ended rules, most people wouldn't consider mini-series as candidates.

I'll replace it ;)

no need to do that, it definitely falls within the guidelines. I'm just saying that mini-series wouldn't be something folks would normally think of, but they definitely fit.

1. Battlestar Galactica (reboot)
2. Stargate SG-1
3. How I Met Your Mother
4. The West Wing
5. House, M.D.
6. The X-Files
7. Big Bang Theory
8. Sports Night
9. The Sopranos
10. Married With Children


Gah, I initially thought I'd have a difficult time coming up with ten but as it turns out I had to leave off excellent shows like Deadwood, American Idol, Frasier, Seinfeld, Dexter, Dr Who, South Park, Cheers, 30 Rock, Stargate: Atlantis, Stargate: Universe (though it's perhaps too young), the Late Show with David Letterman (does that count?) which all joined the others rather quickly as I was thinking.

Do mini-series like Band of Brothers and Rome count? Hmm...BoB was one of the greatest things I've ever seen on television, period.

Lot of shows considering I don't really watch much tv, huh.

I've entered in Band of Brothers, Scoobz, as it does fit the guidelines. If you really want me to switch it, I will, but I'm fine with leaving it in.

Okay guys, I've included the clarification that mini-series count, as do shows like Sportscenter, The Late Show, etc.

But if anyone mentions "North and South", I'm driving directly to your house and kicking your ass. Fair warning.

But if anyone mentions "North and South", I'm driving directly to your house and kicking your ass. Fair warning.

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Doin' ya one better.

Now you are gonna make Izulde drop iCarly and add DeGrassi

Actually I'll keep iCarly on there. I really do love that show. The one that's giving me problems is South Park. I can't decide whether to keep it or to go with Rome or The Tudors.

1. Mad Men
2. Lost
3. Seinfeld
4. Cheers
5. X Files
6. Deadwood
7. Sopranos
8. In Plain Sight (wasted vote, but good show)
9. Family Ties
10. How I Met Your Mother

The one that's giving me problems is South Park.

I can be in Northwest Arkansas in 9 hours. Just sayin'.

1. The Wire
2. Oz
3. The Shield
4. The Sopranos
5. Seinfeld
6. The Simpsons
7. South Park
8. Futurama
9. The Cosby Show
10. Cheers

I can be in Northwest Arkansas in 9 hours. Just sayin'.

Why, just cuz a switch right now would cost South Park a possible #1 seed and drop it to a #2 seed for sure? :D

Oh by the way, just so you guys know, I'm entering in your Top 10s as I see them posted. If you make any changes, please PM me which shows you're dropping and which you're adding.

1. The Wire
2. Sopranos
3. Lost
4. Deadwood
5. Friends
6. NYPD Blue
7. Quantum Leap
8. Cheers
9. The Cosby Show
10. Roseanne

1. The Simpsons
2. Seinfeld
3. Family Guy
4. The Sopranos
5. The Office (UK)
6. The Office (USA)
7. Saturday Night Live
8. Night Court
9. Hill Street Blues
10. WWE Monday Night RAW

I'm just gonna go ahead and say right now that anyone who votes against the wire at any point should be shunned by the community and put on ignore by all of the reasonable people on the board. It'll be interesting to see what comes in second though. ;)

I easily have another 10, 20, 100 nominations if we need 'em.....

Sportscenter
The Wire
Seinfeld
The Unit
Sopranos
Family Guy
Lost
West Wing
Saved By the Bell
Friends

Shit, I'm already lamenting my snubs of Saved by the Bell and Arrested Development. 10 nominations is just cruel.

I easily have another 10, 20, 100 nominations if we need 'em.....

Won't be needed. So far we have 96 different shows nominated and I'd wager we may well break 100 by the time all is said and done. :)

1. Looney Tunes
2. The West Wing
3. Star Trek
4. The X-Files
5. The Cosby Show
6. Batman: The Animated series
7. Doctor Who
8. The Outer Limits
9. Get Smart
10. The Price is Right

There were some shows like The Simpsons and Cheers that I thought were locks so I left them off for some shows I thought really needed votes or even first nominations. I also didn't get to give votes to some other "classic" series like Dragnet and the original Batman series.

SI

Shit, I'm already lamenting my snubs of Saved by the Bell and Arrested Development. 10 nominations is just cruel.

Im right there with ya. Im upset I forgot about arrested development and listed friends instead :banghead:

You guys *can* make changes you know. Just PM me the ones you're making. :)

I just hope ALF makes an appearance in the big dance. It should be a conference champion of 80s alien shows or something. (I'm way too into this thread).

I just hope ALF makes an appearance in the big dance. It should be a conference champion of 80s alien shows or something. (I'm way too into this thread).

So it's like being winner of the Sun Belt so you have the privilege of getting beaten by a #1 seed like Cheers? ;)

SI

1. Band of Brothers
2. M*A*S*H
3. Taxi
4. Magnum PI
5. NYPD Blue
6. Family Guy
7. Criminal Minds
8. Big Bang Theory
9. The Amazing Race
10. Cheers

Wanted to put Coupling (UK Version) in there but no more room.

took out Transformers and added Six Feet Under

I Married Dora
Mr. Belvedere
Perfect Strangers
Just the Ten of Us
Small Wonder
NHL 2Nite
Sports Geniuses
Head of the Class
The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
Woops!

Woops!

I vaguely remembered this, had to wiki it - and was STUNNED to learn that they actually aired 10 episodes. No DVD though, apparently.

I'm stunned Pumpy didn't have Charles in Charge on his list

can I add Cavemen?

I'm stunned Pumpy didn't have Charles in Charge on his list
I knew I was forgetting something important.

I knew I was forgetting something important.

Nicole Eggert called me in tears when she saw you left them off

Nicole Eggert called me in tears when she saw you left them off
I need you to tell her two things for me:

1. Take your pants off.
2. Stoke me a kipper. I'll be back for breakfast.

I need you to tell her two things for me:

1. Take your pants off.
2. Stoke me a kipper. I'll be back for breakfast.

She said if you need to talk to her in the morning, she'll be at Willie Aames' house.

1. Dr. Who
2. Picket Fences
3. Law and Order
4. The Bob Newhart Show
5. The Dick Van Dyke Show
6. Pushing Daisies
7. Jeopardy
8. Moonlighting
9. The Mary Tyler Moore Show
10. The Andy Griffith Show

Futurama
Family Guy
MASH
Seinfeld
Married with Children
WWE Raw
The Tonight Show
Reno 911
Saturday Night Live
A-Team

Firefly
Sports Night
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Late Night with David Letterman
Daily Show With Jon Stewart
M*A*S*H
China Beach
Family Ties
The West Wing
My So-Called Life

John Adams
Arrested Development
Seinfeld
South Park
30 Rock
The Office (UK version)
Extras
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Entourage
The West Wing

That was harder than I thought it would be, I had to leave out a few shows I really liked. Firefly might have made it too but I'm only halfway through the DVD-set I bought recently.

1. Alias
2. 24
3. Band of Brothers
4. Big Bang Theory
5. Battlestar Galactica
6. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
7. Lost
8. Cheers
9. Burn Notice
10. Top Gear

I'd love to see a shows that aired 1 season or less version of this... I have a long list of those I liked :(.

1. The Wire
2. Band of Brothers
3. Rome
4. Family Guy
5. South Park
6. Upright Citizens Brigade
7. MST3K
8. Newsradio
9. The Outer Limits (1995-2002, not the original series)
10. Twilight Zone (original series)

Seinfeld
The Simpsons
King Of The Hill
WWE Monday Night RAW
The Cosby Show
Roseanne
The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air
Wonder Years
Baseball Tonight
Dawson's Creek

1. Arrested Development
2. The Wire
3. Lost
4. NewsRadio
5. Deadwood
6. Curb Your Enthusiasm
7. Breaking Bad
8. The Simpsons
9. Homicide
10. The Larry Sanders Show

2) Law & Order : Original Recipe


It actually took me a moment to realize that this wasn't an actual sub-title.

However the possibility of such a show intrigues me.

A mix of some of my favorites from my childhood, my 6-year-old daughter's favorites now, and #10, the best TV show ever.

1. Gilligan's Island
2. The Incredible Hulk
3. The A-Team
4. Star Trek (original)
5. Happy Days
6. The Muppet Show
7. X-Men Evolution
8. iCarly
9. The Planet's Funniest Animals
10. Crocodile Hunter

1. Seinfield
2. ER
3. Cheers
4. West Wing
5. Simpsons
6. Family Ties
7. Cosby Show
8. Who's the Boss
9. How I Met Your Mother
10. Big Bang Theory

1. The Wire
2. Seinfeld
3. The Shield
4. Deadwood
5. Newsradio
6. Arrested Development
7. Pardon the Interruption
8. Donnybrook (Great local show)
9. West Wing
10. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

1. Arrested Development
2. The Wire
3. Lost
4. NewsRadio
5. Deadwood
6. Curb Your Enthusiasm
7. Breaking Bad
8. The Simpsons
9. Homicide
10. The Larry Sanders Show

After looking at your top 10 and nodding at 9 of them I think I may need to watch old Homicide epiosodes. I never caught this the first time around.

Highly recommended. If anything could be the proto-Wire, it's Homicide. Great writing and acting.

The Wire
Sopranos
Seinfeld
Arrested Development
Freaks and Geeks
Dick Van Dyke
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Wonder Years
West Wing
Simpsons

1) Buffy
2) Big Bang
3) How I met your mother
4) Friends
5) House
6) Survivor
7) West Wing
8) Seinfeld
9) The Practice
10) Entourage

1) The Simpsons
2) Married with Children
3) Monday Night Football
4) House
5) Cheers
6) Southpark
7) The Wonder Years
8) Dukes of Hazzard
9) Tour of Duty
10) Northern Exposure

Entourage is a good addition...

1. The Wire
2. Seinfeld
3. Family Guy
4. 24
5. Histeria!
6. Animaniacs
7. Curb Your Enthusiasm
8. Lost
9. Dragon Ball Z
10. ComicView

Updated through the CU Tiger. Interesting results so far.

Through Noop.

1. Seinfeld
2. The Wire
3. The Shield
4. The Sopranos
5. Oz
6. Freaks and Geeks
7. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
8. The Office
9. Curb Your Enthusiasm
10. Jersey Shore

Top Chef
The Amazing Race
How I met Your Mother
Beverly Hills 90210 (original)
The Jetsons
Big Love
Madmen
The Wonder Years
Real Sports
The Jersey Shore

1 twilight zone
2 prisoner
3 cheers
4 curb your enthusiasm
5 seinfeld
6 Frasier
7 Boy Meets World
8 Bevery Hills 90210
9 batman the animated series
10 batman beyond

I'm guessing those that don't have The Wire haven't seen it.

1.) The Wire
2.) The Twilight Zone
3.) South Park
4.) Carnivale
5.) Freaks and Geeks
6.) Seinfeld
7.) Band of Brothers
8.) Spongebob Squarepants
9.) The Cosby Show
10.) The Oprah Winfrey Show



Hah, j/k on #10 my #10 is actually Saturday Night Live

Cheers
Sports Night
West Wing
Curb Your Enthusiasm
China Beach
Simpsons
Beverly Hills 90210 (Qualified: watched this every week with my high school girlfriend, and for some reason it is an amazing aphrodisiac to 17 year old girls)
30 Rock
Seinfeld
Magnum PI

The Wire
Miami Vice
The Shield
Deadwood
Burn Notice
Family Guy
Lost
Yo Gabba Gabba
Bridezillas
Gangland

The Sopranos
Lost
Alias
ER
Burn Notice
The Simpsons
Oz
Entourage
The Office
The Ultimate Fighter

The Sopranos
Twilight Zone
The Wire
Coupling (UK)
The Office (UK)
Extras
Seinfeld
Wonder Showzen
Mr. Show
Mystery Science Theater 3000

MASH
Wire
West Wing
Northern Exposure
Mad Men
Frontline
Cosby Show
Friends
Daily Show
Ken Burns Civil War

I think if Deadwood had another season or Oz had fewer seasons they would be on my list

I also really loved the Michael Palin Around the World, Pole to Pole but imagine they probably seem pretty dated now

Frontline is one that I forgot about.

Another was Inside the Actors Studio. The host may be a little off but I love watching epsiodes the show.

Bah, how could I leave out MST3k!!!

Bah, how could I leave out MST3k!!!

If you want to make a switch, you can. :) Just PM me the change. Ironically enough, you wouldn't be the first person to make a change in favor of MST3K.

FYI, I woldn't put it on a favorite of all time list, but I've grown to appreciate iCarly. My kids are right in that target demographic, so it's on more often than not, and I find myself getting sucked in. Had the same reaction with Drake & Josh a couple of years ago.

In a great many ways, both of those shows are less kids shows than merely extrapolations of the 80's sit com genre I grew up with. You could stack them right next to Family Ties, The Facts of Life, Different Strokes, etc. Just light, fun entertainment.

The Wire
Oz
Deadwood
Six Feet Under
The Shield
Arrested Development
Breaking Bad
South Park
Dexter
Twin Peaks

1) Friday Night Lights
2) Seinfeld
3) The Wire
4) All in the Family
5) Simpsons
6) Family Guy
7) Firefly
8) Twin Peaks
9) Cosby Show
10) Mad Men

Arrested Development
Band of Brothers
Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High
Seinfeld
South Park
The Office (US)
The Shield
The Sopranos
The Wire
Undeclared

I'm seeing all these kid shows but Spongebob gets no love? What's up with that?

I'm seeing all these kid shows but Spongebob gets no love? What's up with that?

Actually, kids' shows as a whole are doing terribly. Right now, there's only two of them that'd even have a shot at qualifying for the tournament.

1. The Wire
2. Dexter
3. Firefly
4. The Office (US)
5. Survivor
6. Salute Your Shorts
7. Battletsar Galactica
8. Six Feet Under
9. Lost
10. Veronica Mars

NCIS
Alias
MASH
Dexter
Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Beverly Hills 90210
Growing Pains
Family Ties
General Hospital
A Team
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Beverly Hills 90210
Growing Pains
The Wonder Years
American Dreams
Family Ties
Felicity
Married With Children
Leave It To Beaver
Cheers
Friday Night Lights

Buffy
Freaks & Geeks
Alias
Veronica Mars
Lost
Seinfeld
Cheers
Firefly
Married w/ Children
Monday Night Football

1. Seinfeld
2. The Office(US)
3. Friends
4. Cheers
5. Entourage
6. Dallas
7. The Sopranos
8. Friday Night Lights
9. Wonder Years
10. Baseball Tonight

Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Firefly
The A-Team
The X-Files
The Man from Atlantis
Head of the Class
Whiz Kids
Little House on the Prairie
V (original mini-series + television series, not last year's crap)
The Sopranos

1. Seinfeld
2. Cheers
3. Big Bang Theory
4. The West Wing
5. Firefly
6. How I Met Your Mother
7. Battlestar Gallactica
8. X-Files
9. Star Trek - The Next Generation
10. Sports Night

Updated through KWhit.

1) Seinfeld
2) Cheers
3) Star Trek
4) MST3K
5) The Simpsons
6) Family Guy
7) Saved By the Bell
8) Wonder Years
9) X-Files
10) WKRP in Cinncinati

Alright, so let's see:

1- MASH
2- Sopranos
3- The Wire
4- Dexter
5- Six Feet Under
6- Scrubs
7- X-Files
8- Sports Night
9- Cosby Show
10- Married With Children

Bumping.

NCIS
Dragon Ball Z
24
House
Whose Line Is It Anyway
Moonlighting
Looney Tunes
Quantum Leap
Cosby Show
Sex and the City

NCIS
Dragon Ball Z
24
House
Whose Line Is It Anyway
Moonlighting
Looney Tunes
Quantum Leap
Cosby Show
Sex and the City

Interesting selections

The Wire
The Sopranos
Law & Order
M*A*S*H
The Simpsons
House M.D.
Homicide: Life on the Street
Cheers
Twin Peaks
All In The Family

The Cosby Show
Burn Notice
Twin Peaks
Justice League/ Justice League Unlimited
Farscape
Seinfeld
Star Trek
Nightline
Monday Night Football
Chappelle Show

Sorry about the mistake with the other thread, Izulde.

1. Family Guy
2. Star Trek
3. Firefly
4. Dexter
5. Band of Brothers
6. Entourage
7. Looney Toons
8. True Blood
9. Robot Chicken
10 House

1. The Sopranos
2. Picket Fences
3. The Big Bang Theory
4. Criminal Minds
5. Lou Grant
6. The Mary Tyler Moore Show
7. Family
8. The Wire
9. Quantum Leap
10. Frasier

1. Sopranos
2. Twin Peaks
3. Deadwood
4. Band of Brothers
5. Monty Python's Flying Circus
6. West Wing
7. Simpsons
8. X-files
9. Cheers
10. Firefly

Futurama
Red Dwarf
Monty Python's Flying Circus
Third Rock From the Sun
Newsradio
Top Chef
Night Court
Cowboy Bebop
Northern Exposure
Dr Who

Nicole Eggert called me in tears when she saw you left them off

from Celebrity Fit Club boot camp :P

Futurama
Red Dwarf
Monty Python's Flying Circus
Third Rock From the Sun
Newsradio
Top Chef
Night Court
Cowboy Bebop
Northern Exposure
Dr Who
love red dwarf

WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR WOOPS!, PEOPLE???

Arrested Development
Seinfeld
MASH
Law and Order
Star Trek
Dr. Who
South Park
Family Guy
Batman - The Animated Series
Venture Bros.

Dexter
the West Wing
Blackadder
Star Trek
Arrested Development
Monk
the Muppet Show
Northern Exposure
Amazing Race
Futurama

love red dwarf

WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR WOOPS!, PEOPLE???

If I could use one slot to nominate that whole FOX block of Married With Children, Herman's Head, Flying Blind, and Woops! then I'd do it.

1. All in the Family
2. MASH
3. I Love Lucy
4. Hill Street Blues
5. The Tonight Show with anybody but *#&@$)! Leno
6. Happy Days
7. SNL
8. West Wing
9. The Honeymooners
10. Star Trek

Seinfeld
My So-Called Life
Lost
The Simpsons
Arrested Development
Monday Night Football
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Saturday Night Live
Star Trek (The Original Show)
Frasier

The Unit
October Road
Roseanne
Sopranos
Its Always Sunny
Frasier
Big Bang Theory
Arrested Development
Magnum PI
Family Guy

5. The Tonight Show with anybody but *#&@$)! Leno


AMEN! Jay stinks. COnan is so much funnier.

I'll be closing this in a few hours, I think.

wow, this was almost a year and a half ago

Is the voting still going on?

I need to go through and find where we left off at.

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