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samifan24
02-08-2009, 01:04 PM
Let's use this thread to help each other find fantasy baseball leagues.

I'm looking for a good competitive league, preferably a keeper league, and am willing to join a pay league. I missed out on the FOFC Hardcore League last year, will it be back? If so, do you guys have any openings? Anyone else looking to fill a spot or two?

QuikSand
02-08-2009, 01:22 PM
I have run a pay-to-play AL-only league through FOFC a couple of times in the recent past. Might be willing to give it a go again.

I'd prefer a keeper league, too, if there's a meaningful way to do that online.

sooner333
02-08-2009, 01:32 PM
I'd be interested. There was a really cool service I used (you had to pay with no real prizes though) where you picked your teams and basically they took the stats from the week and it had simulated games for your team using your lineups, rotation, etc. Scoresheet Sports.

I generally like keeper leagues too, so if anyone was going to do one, I'd be down.

sterlingice
02-08-2009, 03:36 PM
I'm looking for a good competitive league, preferably a keeper league, and am willing to join a pay league. I missed out on the FOFC Hardcore League last year, will it be back? If so, do you guys have any openings? Anyone else looking to fill a spot or two?

Yes, it will be back- I already went and dug up the old thread and was planning on making the 2009 one this week. I always give preference to the players from the previous season. However, I'm pretty sure we had 4 dead teams at the end so we should have openings and usually about 1/3rd of the league drops out from year to year.

SI

Toddzilla
02-08-2009, 03:42 PM
The FOFC Extreme league was a big failure - IMO because the large rosters basically prevented any meaningful free-agent moves or trades. I'd love to give the Hardcore league another go - count me in.

Icy
02-08-2009, 03:57 PM
The FOFC Extreme league was a big failure - IMO because the large rosters basically prevented any meaningful free-agent moves or trades. I'd love to give the Hardcore league another go - count me in.

Agree it was so boring with no need to add/remove players.

I would also like to join a new one this year.

sterlingice
02-08-2009, 04:04 PM
I'd love to give the Hardcore league another go - count me in.

FYI- if you had a spot in that league last year, like Toddzilla, you'll have a couple of days this year where you can agree to stay- provided you didn't abandon your team last year. Then there will be a waiting list in the FOFC Hardcore thread.

I'd rather people wait until then to sign up, tho, so I'm not chasing down 2 threads at once.

Also, remember, we do the slow/live online draft where you have to be able to check online every day for usually three weeks- sometimes during the day (or submit a list of a couple of picks to someone who will be).

Look for the 2009 thread sometime this week- hopefully Monday or Tuesday, if work is light.

SI

samifan24
02-08-2009, 04:24 PM
Were the Hardcore and Extreme leagues two different leagues?

lynchjm24
02-08-2009, 07:22 PM
I have run a pay-to-play AL-only league through FOFC a couple of times in the recent past. Might be willing to give it a go again.

I'd prefer a keeper league, too, if there's a meaningful way to do that online.

AL Only Keeper for some $$ sounds good to me.

lynchjm24
02-08-2009, 07:24 PM
I'd be interested. There was a really cool service I used (you had to pay with no real prizes though) where you picked your teams and basically they took the stats from the week and it had simulated games for your team using your lineups, rotation, etc. Scoresheet Sports.

I generally like keeper leagues too, so if anyone was going to do one, I'd be down.

I've always been interested in scoresheet. I also stumbled on "Box Baseball" today. Looks like with ten teams you could play for $25 a team. They use the Dewan +/- ratings for defense, so they are attempting to put off a complicated engine. No idea how accurate it is though.

lynchjm24
02-08-2009, 07:25 PM
Let's use this thread to help each other find fantasy baseball leagues.

I'm looking for a good competitive league, preferably a keeper league, and am willing to join a pay league. I missed out on the FOFC Hardcore League last year, will it be back? If so, do you guys have any openings? Anyone else looking to fill a spot or two?

Sami if you try to put together a 'real-life' league in Connecticut/RI/MA let me know. I was going to post something today to see if we could get 8-10 owners and play an AL only keeper league.

MizzouRah
02-08-2009, 07:26 PM
Were the Hardcore and Extreme leagues two different leagues?

Yes they were.

MizzouRah
02-08-2009, 07:33 PM
I'll be back.. ready to take on the Hunters again!

Toddzilla
02-08-2009, 08:07 PM
FYI- if you had a spot in that league last year, like Toddzilla, you'll have a couple of days this year where you can agree to stay- provided you didn't abandon your team last year. Then there will be a waiting list in the FOFC Hardcore thread.

I'd rather people wait until then to sign up, tho, so I'm not chasing down 2 threads at once.

Also, remember, we do the slow/live online draft where you have to be able to check online every day for usually three weeks- sometimes during the day (or submit a list of a couple of picks to someone who will be).

Look for the 2009 thread sometime this week- hopefully Monday or Tuesday, if work is light.

SI

here's an idea...

Create a second league with the waiting list people - that can be the "second division". Top three teams get "promoted" to the Hardcore league, bottom 3 teams in the Hardcore league get "relegated".

samifan24
02-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Sami if you try to put together a 'real-life' league in Connecticut/RI/MA let me know. I was going to post something today to see if we could get 8-10 owners and play an AL only keeper league.

It sounds like most of you guys that want a AL only league also want a keeper league. Is there enough interest to create a new league? How about a pay league?

I'd like to get on the FOFC Hardcore league waiting list but am happy to start another league if there's interest. Roto? Head to head? What are you guys looking for?

QuikSand
02-08-2009, 08:24 PM
My preference would be:

AL only
8-12 teams
23 active players, 7 reserve
5 x 5 rotisserie style
$260 budget with in-season FAAB
Keeper list of 5-10 players for two years
No toppers or other twists beyond the keeper list
$50-100 entry fee

sooner333
02-08-2009, 09:13 PM
I've always been interested in scoresheet. I also stumbled on "Box Baseball" today. Looks like with ten teams you could play for $25 a team. They use the Dewan +/- ratings for defense, so they are attempting to put off a complicated engine. No idea how accurate it is though.

I did it for two years in a 22 team (or so) keeper league for both leagues. It was pretty cool to get the results every week and be able to pore through inning by inning. It would be even cooler to be able to put the data into a viewer program, but I dont' know if that's been done.

lynchjm24
02-09-2009, 07:40 AM
My preference would be:

AL only
8-12 teams
23 active players, 7 reserve
5 x 5 rotisserie style
$260 budget with in-season FAAB
Keeper list of 5-10 players for two years
No toppers or other twists beyond the keeper list
$50-100 entry fee

My 15 year AL only league is 24 man rosters with 5 reserves and we have 10 teams. An 11th team would be quite a stretch, and I am the sort of guy who likes to pick between middle relievers.

I think this is good criteria. I'd say closer to the $100 then the $50.

I prefer 4x4 with K instead of WHIP, but I know I'm in the minority with that.

sterlingice
02-13-2009, 04:15 PM
2009 FOFC Hardcore League - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=70700)

2009 Hardcore league is up.

SI

Lathum
02-13-2009, 06:13 PM
I would love to join a money keeper league.

$100 may be a stretch with the wife but I could probably swing $50. Or do $100 and pay my fee in incriments.

molson
02-13-2009, 06:32 PM
My preference would be:

AL only
8-12 teams
23 active players, 7 reserve
5 x 5 rotisserie style
$260 budget with in-season FAAB
Keeper list of 5-10 players for two years
No toppers or other twists beyond the keeper list
$50-100 entry fee

I'd jump all over something like that if you decided to run it.

I'm in keeper league that uses Yahoo - that seems to work really well, though there's a cost for those kind of commissioner controls (just a few bucks divided 8-12 ways though)

We run the auction (which is way more fun than a draft) through fantasyauctioneer.com, and the commissioner plugs the players into Yahoo.

samifan24
02-13-2009, 06:59 PM
I've always played mixed leagues. I'd like to try an AL or NL only league this year. I'm hoping I can get into the FOFC Hardcore League this year, too.

Lathum
03-12-2009, 12:08 PM
anyone interested in a free ESPN auction style draft?

cubboyroy1826
03-12-2009, 12:11 PM
Depends on the specifics but i might be up for this.

Mustang
03-12-2009, 12:21 PM
Looking for an NL only league similiar to the above mentioned AL only league except with longer contracts (3-4 years).

Although, would consider a AL only league..

sterlingice
03-12-2009, 12:25 PM
anyone interested in a free ESPN auction style draft?

Depends on the date and time but I've always wanted to do an auction league and never have before. I didn't know ESPN has free ones

SI

Lathum
03-12-2009, 12:26 PM
Depends on the date and time but I've always wanted to do an auction league and never have before. I didn't know ESPN has free ones

SI

yeah, we did a football and basketball one and it was good, nice interface, etc...

Qwikshot
03-12-2009, 12:42 PM
an auction draft would interest me...

molson
03-12-2009, 01:15 PM
anyone interested in a free ESPN auction style draft?

I've been playing around with their settings there the last few weeks - the whole fantasy game section over there seems vastly improved from what I remembered.

So ya, I'd be in.

Lathum
03-12-2009, 01:31 PM
OK, I went ahead and created an ESPN auction league. The draft is set for Wed, April 1st at 8:00 PM EST. It is a live draft but you don't have to be present, however it is half the fun IMO. I should be able to edit the draft date/ time. It is a 14 team league. I'll list all the settings below, if anything needs to be changed lemme know and I will change it.

You will need an invite from me so if you want in PM me your email address. I'll probably start a seperate thread about the leage in case we have trouble getting enough people.


BASIC SETTINGS (Edit)
League Manager Brian Harris
League Name FOFC Fantasy Baseball
Privacy Private
Scoring Type Head to Head Points
Teams in League 14
Game Type Custom
OWNER INFO (Edit)
Invitation Information 0 Invites Sent / 0 Joined
ROSTER (Edit)
Current Roster Size: 25
Total Starters: 22
Total On Bench: 3 (1 DL)
POSITIONS STARTERS MAXIMUM
Catcher (C) 1 No Limit
First Base (1B) 1 No Limit
Second Base (2B) 1 No Limit
Third Base (3B) 1 No Limit
Shortstop (SS) 1 No Limit
Middle Infielder (2B/SS) 1 N/A
Corner Infielder (1B/3B) 1 N/A
Left Field (LF) 0 No Limit
Center Field (CF) 0 No Limit
Right Field (RF) 0 No Limit
Outfield (OF) 5 N/A
Designated Hitter (DH) 0 No Limit
Utility (UTIL) 1 N/A
Pitcher (P) 9 N/A
Starting Pitcher (SP) 0 No Limit
Relief Pitcher (RP) 0 No Limit
Bench (BE) 3 N/A
Disabled List (DL) 1 N/A
GAME LIMITS (Edit)
Enforce Game Limits No, allow unlimited games for all slots
SCORING (Edit)
Batting
Home Runs (HR) 1 Total Bases (TB) 1
Walks (BB) 1 Runs Scored (R) 1
Runs Batted In (RBI) 1 Stolen Bases (SB) 1
Strikeouts (K) -1 Hits (H) 1
Pitching
Innings Pitched (IP) 3 Earned Runs (ER) -2
Wins (W) 10 Losses (L) -5
Saves (SV) 5 Strikeouts (K) 1
Hits Allowed (H) -1 Walks Issued (BB) -1
LEAGUE RULES (Edit)
Player Universe All MLB Players
Season Start Date Sunday, April 5 (First Day of Regular Season)
Lineup Changes Daily - Slots Lock Individually at Scheduled Gametime
Roster Changes Daily - Rosters Lock at First Game of Day
Observe ESPN's Undroppable Players List Yes
Make League Viewable to Public Yes
Trade Limit No Limit
Trade Deadline Friday, August 14, 12PM ET (Week 19)
Trade Review Period 48 Hours
Votes Required to Veto Trade 2
Free Agent/Waiver Acquisition Limit No Limit
Waiver Period 2 Days
Waiver System Move To Last After Claim, Never Reset Order
KEEPERS (Edit)
2009 Keepers Per Team None
2010 Keepers Per Team None
FEES (Edit)
Use League Fees No
SCHEDULE & PLAYOFFS (Edit)
Start Of Regular Season Week 1
Regular Season Weeks 22 (Playoffs start Week 23)
Matchup Tie Breaker None, Leave as Tie
Home Field Advantage None
Playoff Seeding Tie Breaker Head To Head Record
Playoffs Weeks 3
Playoff Rounds 3 (1 week per round)
Playoff Teams 6
First Round Byes 2
DRAFT (Edit)
Draft Type Auction Draft
Draft Date April 1, 2009 8:00 PM ET
Allow Draft Pick Trading No
Draft Order Manually Set by League Manager

molson
03-12-2009, 01:36 PM
Damn, I can't do Wednesdays.

If Lathum's league fills up I'll start another one that's AL-Only.

samifan24
03-12-2009, 02:27 PM
Not to be a jerk but why did you choose a H2H format in an auction league? I always thought auction leaguers prefer Roto?

Lathum
03-12-2009, 02:34 PM
Not to be a jerk but why did you choose a H2H format in an auction league? I always thought auction leaguers prefer Roto?

didnt think much about it, any of the settings can be changed

sterlingice
03-13-2009, 08:32 AM
I did a mock auction on ESPN last night- nice format, mostly (there are some complaints I have with how to view, search for players, etc, but all in all, it's pretty slick.

For Lathum's league, if you aren't present for the draft, it probably won't be fun. And, if you haven't done an auction before, go do a practice one to get used to ESPN's auction process (how to nominate players, bid, make a strategy- go hard early, hang back for bargains, whatever).

26 starters- any idea how much we will have to bid? $260? How about adding players off the ww? Is that bid on also?

SI

QuikSand
03-14-2009, 09:03 AM
My preference would be:

AL only
8-12 teams
23 active players, 7 reserve
5 x 5 rotisserie style
$260 budget with in-season FAAB
Keeper list of 5-10 players for two years
No toppers or other twists beyond the keeper list
$50-100 entry fee

For what it's worth, I have received a few inquiries about setting up a league like this, including a potential volunteer to actually do the legwork (resolving my personal commitment deficiency).

If you're interested in something pretty close to this, send me a PM soon. I think 8 is a bare minimum critical mass to go forward, but 10 is better.

If this get moving, I will start to flesh out more details for things like the keeper system. If you have worries about the financial side, I will either serve as the league treasurer myself, or else I'll personally vouch for the individual who does so (in case that gives you any comfort).

lynchjm24
03-15-2009, 05:22 PM
For what it's worth, I have received a few inquiries about setting up a league like this, including a potential volunteer to actually do the legwork (resolving my personal commitment deficiency).

If you're interested in something pretty close to this, send me a PM soon. I think 8 is a bare minimum critical mass to go forward, but 10 is better.

If this get moving, I will start to flesh out more details for things like the keeper system. If you have worries about the financial side, I will either serve as the league treasurer myself, or else I'll personally vouch for the individual who does so (in case that gives you any comfort).

Sent. If we can't trust Quiksand with $... who could we trust? Bank of America? Wachovia?

sterlingice
03-27-2009, 08:43 AM
Bump, re: Lathum's auction league.

1) We only have 3 teams currently- might want to get out ahead of this and promote :)

2) Points or roto or other? I'd prefer H2H or roto (still not a huge roto fan but whatever)

3) After the draft- how is free agency/waiver wire done? Do you have to have cash left over for bidding on those?

SI

QuikSand
03-27-2009, 08:46 AM
For what it's worth, I have received a few inquiries about setting up a league like this, including a potential volunteer to actually do the legwork (resolving my personal commitment deficiency).

If you're interested in something pretty close to this, send me a PM soon. I think 8 is a bare minimum critical mass to go forward, but 10 is better.

If this get moving, I will start to flesh out more details for things like the keeper system. If you have worries about the financial side, I will either serve as the league treasurer myself, or else I'll personally vouch for the individual who does so (in case that gives you any comfort).

I got about three nibbles, and have nowhere near the energy required to convert that into a real league. *shurg*

May be willing to join another one, though.

sterlingice
03-29-2009, 03:46 PM
Any word on the ESPN auction league or is that dead?

SI

Lathum
03-29-2009, 04:04 PM
Any word on the ESPN auction league or is that dead?

SI

I just got back from vacation and havent followed up on anyting yet but it isn't looking great

lynchjm24
03-30-2009, 06:33 PM
In the past I've done a few leagues where when we were short serious owners we just restricted the pool instead of searching for owners.

4 dedicated owners using just the AL East can make for a pretty good league. We had 6 do an NL league and we agreed on 2 teams and everyone else picked 1 on top of that and used 8 NL teams to fill out 6 roto rosters.

Qwikshot
03-30-2009, 08:36 PM
I just got back from vacation and havent followed up on anyting yet but it isn't looking great

I'd be okay if you put it out of its misery.

sterlingice
03-30-2009, 09:23 PM
I already left the league as it appears to have 3 players :(

SI