I decided to start this one for two reasons. The first is that I figured the Missouri guys might not want to what with their loss this past weekend and imminent loss on Saturday. The other is that Texas will play as the #1 team in the nation this week for the first time since the 1984 Texas/OU game. We were #1 in the BCS ratings for one week in 2005, and of course #1 in the postseason polls. But this is the first time we've been #1 in the AP or (now) Coaches' Poll for a game in 24 years.

So, uh, good luck everybody.

This is the week Penn State takes 11 years of frustration out on Michigan!

Missouri was just looking ahead to this weekend.

Missouri beats Texas!

GO HAWKS!!!
We get wisky at home. Buck Fucky!

For BYU it's a Thursday night game against TCU and it isn't a trap game but a dangerous one for us as it is at TCU.

We need to win this and convincingly and I want Utah to win out so when we meet them on Nov 22 the Holy War will be not only for the conference championship but for a BCS game as well.

Thursday night, a lot of people are going to find out that TCU has a very good football team.

Thursday night, a lot of people are going to find out that TCU has a very good football team.

Trust me, I think a lot of people know. It's been circled on BYU's calendar for a while and the fans have been really concerned about this game.

I am even more concerned with their mobile QB.

I have no idea who Rutgers plays but I am pretty sure they will lose

For BYU it's a Thursday night game against TCU and it isn't a trap game but a dangerous one for us as it is at TCU.

We need to win this and convincingly and I want Utah to win out so when we meet them on Nov 22 the Holy War will be not only for the conference championship but for a BCS game as well.

It would be amazing to see where BYU and Utah would be in the rankings (both polls and BCS) if they manage to get through unbeaten.

TCU is ranked as well, aren't they?

It would be amazing to see where BYU and Utah would be in the rankings (both polls and BCS) if they manage to get through unbeaten.

TCU is ranked as well, aren't they?

In the USA today poll they are, in all of the others they are sitting around 26 - 28

Every year, Sparty comes into the Ohio State-Michigan State game as a possible contender, and every year OSU sends them into a nice 4-5 game tailspin that puts an end to that talk.

Hopefully, this year is no different.

Posted in the week 7 thread but Tommy Bowden has been fired

press conference at 5pm

I bear no ill-will toward MizzouRah or kcchief19 regarding this weekend's game. I'm looking forward to a competitive game against an opponent whose BCS and national title dreams will have them backed up against a wall and ready to fight.

As for the feelings towards MBBF, I hope the Horns beat Mizzou like a rented mule.

As for the feelings towards MBBF, I hope the Horns beat Mizzou like a rented mule.

Like the 360 is beating the PS3? ;)

The two 3-0 in conference CUSA West teams play when UTEP visits Tulsa on Saturday. Tulsa has an explosive offense, UTEP has a struggling defense. Could be a long day for Miner fans, but the Miners have been playing inspired ball the past three weeks so it could also be a great day...

I have no idea who Rutgers plays but I am pretty sure they will lose

UConn travels to Rutgers.

And South Florida hosts Syracuse, and I hope USF avoids the letdown they had against Pitt...

I bear no ill-will toward MizzouRah or kcchief19 regarding this weekend's game. I'm looking forward to a competitive game against an opponent whose BCS and national title dreams will have them backed up against a wall and ready to fight.

As for the feelings towards MBBF, I hope the Horns beat Mizzou like a rented mule.

:lol:

Should be a great game.. where is MBBF? I took that loss hard, but I haven't seen him around since the game...

:lol:

Should be a great game.. where is MBBF? I took that loss hard, but I haven't seen him around since the game...

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This is the week Penn State takes 11 years of frustration out on Michigan!

It was a nice 11 run year while it lasted...

Thank god the NHL has started. Yay, Wings!

Can't say that I blame him after as much smack as he was talking in a thread it had no business in.

I bet he's playing the game over and over on NCAA09 on his PS3 because if he beats Oklahoma State enough times on there maybe it will reverse the reality of what really happened.

Can't say that I blame him after as much smack as he was talking in a thread it had no business in.

yep, talk about casting a hex...

BCS Preview (http://www.barkingcarnival.com/huckleberry/bcs-preview)

Subject: Good Ole Rocky Top (2008 Version)

Wish that Phil was gone from Rocky Top
Sent away from the Tennessee hills
Ain't no wins or fans on Rocky Top
Ain't no SEC thrills
Once we had a team on Rocky Top
Half run, the other half pass
Quick as a mink,
But strong as mountain men
We still dream about that.
Rocky Top come back to me
The best in the SEC
Good ol' Rocky Top
Rocky Top Tennessee,
Rocky Top Tennessee
Once some Vols fans climbed ol' Rocky Top
Lookin' for a Gator kill
Phil got out-coached on ole Rocky Top
And Phil always will
Rocky Top come back to me
On top of the SEC
Good ol' Rocky Top
Rocky Top Tennessee,
Rocky Top Tennessee
Phil can't coach no more on Rocky Top
The game has passed him by
That's why all the fans on Rocky Top
Are singing Me Oh My
Rocky Top come back to me
On top of the SEC
Good ol' Rocky Top
Rocky Top Tennessee,
Rocky Top Tennessee
I've had years of cramped-up Neyland life
Hoping for a simple win
All I know is it's a pity if Phil
Will be our coach again
Rocky Top come back to me
On top of the SEC
Good ol' Rocky Top
Rocky Top Tennessee,
Rocky Top Tennessee!

Missouri still has a shot.
Oklahoma State has to win out as does Missouri. They meet in the Big 12 Championship game and Missouri wins.
National championship game is Missouri vs. Alabama or Penn St.

Missouri still has a shot.
Oklahoma State has to win out as does Missouri.

Oklahoma State has to go to Austin, where they'll take a 35-7 lead into the second half before losing 42-35.

:lol:

Should be a great game.. where is MBBF? I took that loss hard, but I haven't seen him around since the game...

I thought the post where I stated I was in Vegas 10/9-10/13 would have fended off these posts. Once again, I apologize for not 'nerding' up and interrupting my vacation to feed the pirahna on FOFC. :)

As I mentioned in the other thread, the big picture is still firmly in place for Mizzou. If they can find a way to win in Austin on Saturday, they have a very favorable schedule and the B12 Championship in their own backyard. This year could end up looking very similar to last year with an early conference loss followed by a big stretch run.

Simple game plan for Mizzou this week. Instruct Chase Daniel that he doesn't have to complete every single pass and that it's OK to throw a ball away. If he does that, we'll be just fine.

Instruct Chase Daniel that he doesn't have to complete every single pass and that it's OK to throw a ball away.

Gotta love that this needs to be taught to a senior QB.

Gotta love that this needs to be taught to a senior QB.

Obviously, that's an overstatement. He completes over 70% of his passes. It's not shocking that he thinks he can complete them all. He pretty much had done exactly that up until Saturday. He'll be fine and it's much better that he gets his ego checked now when Mizzou still has a good shot at making the BCS Championship game than later on when a loss would be disasterous for Mizzou's hopes.

Allright MBBF, lets go Mizzou!!!

Allright MBBF, lets go Mizzou!!!

It's all in place.

-Mizzou teed-off after losing a game that they likely should have won.

-Texas on an emotional high after beating OU and ascending to the #1 spot in the nation.

We don't have a prayer. :D

Well, it might not matter if Chase plays a perfect game, because Bradford was 28 of 39 for 387 yards and 5 touchdowns and OU still lost. It is gonna take a lot more than just Daniel playing better for Mizzou.

And with the "past performance is not an indicator of future performance" disclaimer, Texas has yet to lose the week after the OU game while Mack Brown has been the coach. So he and his staff have done a good job of getting them to bounce back after the brutal losses, and getting them grounded after the huge wins.

Texas is damn good... my only hope is the #1 jinx. :P

Well, it might not matter if Chase plays a perfect game, because Bradford was 28 of 39 for 387 yards and 5 touchdowns and OU still lost. It is gonna take a lot more than just Daniel playing better for Mizzou.

I don't think there's any question about that. Oklahoma and Texas both exposed their opposing defenses last week as being the weaker side of the ball. There's no question that Texas will need that offense to show up again to cover for their weak secondary. Mizzou's defense was good enough to win last Saturday (under 30 points and forced 3 turnovers). If Mizzou's D plays similarly, I'm pretty confident that Daniel will perform much better and it will be a very good matchup.

If Texas has similar athletes on their D-line as Oklahoma State, Daniel might be in a bit of trouble again. The Cowboys had a nice outside rush that seemed to rattle Chase.

If Texas has similar athletes on their D-line as Oklahoma State, Daniel might be in a bit of trouble again. The Cowboys had a nice outside rush that seemed to rattle Chase.

It was a change from past games. For most of the games over the past 1 1/2 years, teams have tended to fall back instead of attack the offense with at least 4 rushers (and occasional blitzers). If future opponents decide to take a similar approach, it'll be interesting to see how the Mizzou offense alters its attack. Mizzou does have a couple of young linemen. They've played well overall, but I'm sure they can get rattled.

hehehehe this seriously cracked me up. Talk about pinning the tail on the donkey.

*****After three years of playing teams coached by Houston Nutt, UA safety Rashad Johnson has an idea of what he might see from the Rebels -- the same as what he saw from Arkansas.
"They're going to try and establish the running game," Johnson said, "and even when it's not working, they're going to try and establish the running game."

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/10/national_title_talk_from_fans.html

ETA: link

This made me giggle...

http://inthebleachers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ut.jpg

The similarity is that half the country wants to get into both but not all of 'em can.

;)

Hey Missouri, you're welcome! (http://www.barkingcarnival.com/henryjames/missouri-owes-all-their-success-to-texas)

Reports out of Clemson are that Senior QB Cullen Harper is going to have surgery on his shoulder and will be out 2-4 weeks, following the GT game. That said, Korn is still going to start against Tech, so I'm not sure why Harper is waiting - report I saw (no link, sorry) said he probably wouldn't even dress.

We get Florida State-NC State on ESPN over BYU-TCU tonight? Is the BYU game even being carried?

BYU-TCU is on Versus, I believe.

Reports out of Clemson are that Senior QB Cullen Harper is going to have surgery on his shoulder and will be out 2-4 weeks, following the GT game. That said, Korn is still going to start against Tech, so I'm not sure why Harper is waiting - report I saw (no link, sorry) said he probably wouldn't even dress.

Good call.
Totally missed that at first.


In other news, YUCK, an agent (who happens to be a Clemson grad) of a certain slimy coach with a 1 year contract and a less than reputable past WAS in Clemson today. Saw with my EYES and talked to said agent (who once upon a time was in an alumni assoc with me)....but he said he wwas strictly talking and nothing was imminent.....YUCK...Please No...

Not a good way to start for BYU. I find the VS broadcast team to be annoying (they might be good for hockey, but eh for football).

This is one of those games that I don't particularly like either team (sorry, Macro). Too bad a 0-0 tie is already out of the question.

Guess if I have to root for someone, I'll root for the Texas team...

TCU -- one of the better teams in the country, but only the 3rd best team in Texas.

TCU is running all over BYU right now. Running the wild frog

Oof....32-7 TCU

If TCU runs the table, they deserve to be in the BCS.

That's way too vague. They've played one team that no doubt deserves to be ranked and got spanked by 25.

If they win out in convincing fashion, then probably. But there's way too much football left to say what you said.

What can I say....BYU did not show up to play last night. That was evident from the get go.

Patterson stated on the MTN earlier this week that they have had this day circled on their calendars since January, even their tackling dummies and such has had a BYU helmet on them.

Based upon the way we played last night we deserved to lose, and I thought we would. Bronco was clearly not happy with the team at half time.

The players the last few weeks have bought into the BCS hype and that killed them, now that it is out of their system I hope BYU runs the table as does Utah until Nov 22. Both teams should still be ranked (Unless TCU pummels the U like they did BYU) and a win there won't necessarily guarantee BCS for BYU but it would ruin the Utes chance and that would make my day.

Cheers to all.....And BYU....pull your heads out of your asses and get ready to see everything TCU threw at you for the rest of the season.

Tomorrow can't get here soon enough for me. OU needs to come out and make a statement against a good Kansas team. I was going to use the word "hungry", but that's probably not a good choice of words with Mangino coming to town.

5 hours until game...Clemson, SC has an eery feel.


More fans tailgating and laughing than I have seen all year and its been that way since we started setting up at 5AM. I am almost always the first in our lot...today there were a dozen or more that beat me here.

Dabo, I dont know if you can coach, but you sure have sparked a fan base.

7-0 Georgia Tech in Q1 on a pick six of some screwy looking WR reverse option pass that was, at best, ill advised.

Can't block. Can't tackle. And I'm sick of that Metallica song.

I don't know who this slow witted analyst on the GT-CU game is but I hope he has Bowden's baby soon. All they've done for most of the past quarter is cry about the poor ex-coach and how unfair life is and how awful players/his brother are for commenting at all,etc, etc. I'm surprised these clowns weren't unable to call today's game for being overcome with grief.

A.J. Green having a bit of a coming out party today. Stafford hit 'em on a 49 yard pass, and then followed the next play with a great 17 yard catch in the end-zone. This kid is pretty good.

I don't know who this slow witted analyst on the GT-CU game is but I hope he has Bowden's baby soon. All they've done for most of the past quarter is cry about the poor ex-coach and how unfair life is and how awful players/his brother are for commenting at all,etc, etc. I'm surprised these clowns weren't unable to call today's game for being overcome with grief.

I like Pasch and Ware.

Clemson gets a FG to pull within 7-3. The Tech offense looks only slightly better today with Nesbitt at QB than it did against Gardner-Webb last week as they continue to appear bewildered by the foreign concept known as blocking.

Clemson gets a FG to pull within 7-3. The Tech offense looks only slightly better today with Nesbitt at QB than it did against Gardner-Webb last week as they continue to appear bewildered by the foreign concept known as blocking.


"You mean, I have to hit that guy? That's not friendly."

And here go the ESPN village idiots railing yet again.

Newsflash for these morons: When coaches are making the outlandish salaries that are common today, those paying the salaries aren't going to sit around quietly nor patiently. "Unfair to the kids"? Many of them were clearly ready to pack the moving van for Bowden, why cry for them in this instance?
And now Ware literally reverses himself in mid-argument, going from how awful a thing coaching changes are for the players to how players shouldn't have any say so in the changes. WTF, did he take one blow to the head too many? He may be the dumbest sumbitch I've heard attempt to form a coherent sentence in a long time. He's one of those ex-athletes who has been coached to be slick in the booth but they couldn't make him actually intelligent.

Jackets get a TD on an abruptly nice drive just before the half to go up 14-3.

Stafford shows he still is immature. He rolls out and had plenty of time to set his feet to make a thorw. Instead, he throws running and the pass drops short right into the hand of the defender. This kid is a third year starter, and he still makes freshman mistakes several times a game.

Short KO by GT, kicker saves a touchdown with a tackle around the 40 ... and an interception on the first play from scrimmage denies Clemson a comeback score before halftime. 4th turnover of the half for CU.

WTF did Lou Holtz (last night/earlier )say that he was trying to apologize for just now?

WTF did Lou Holtz (last night/earlier )say that he was trying to apologize for just now?

I think this: YouTube - Lou Holtz Swears on national tv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoRC8LHBinI)

I think this: YouTube - Lou Holtz Swears on national tv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoRC8LHBinI)


Granny got mad. Gonna go get the shot gun.

I think this: YouTube - Lou Holtz Swears on national tv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoRC8LHBinI)

THAT warranted two apologies (one in the clip and then another one today)?
My goodness.

If so then somebody from ESPN ought to set themselves on fire to apologize for inflicting the morons doing the GT-CU game on the world.

Lou compared RichRod to Hitler apparently.

Dola - He was comparing leaders and how their are good and their are bad, and some how RichRod and Hitler were compared. I didn't see it, but on the rivals UM board it's been the big rage to discuss.

Dola - He was comparing leaders and how their are good and their are bad, and some how RichRod and Hitler were compared. I didn't see it, but on the rivals UM board it's been the big rage to discuss.

Okay, THAT makes sense in the context of what he said a little while ago.
Thanks, I was confused.

Another interception leads to another UGA touchdown, now leading Vandy 14-0.

This is it in a nutshell I guess:

Mark May said Michigan needs leadership, to which Lou responded, "well, Hitler was a leader," or something like that.

This is it in a nutshell I guess:

Mark May said Michigan needs leadership, to which Lou responded, "well, Hitler was a leader," or something like that.

LOL

Grant - I have noticed Stafford continues to rise up draft boards, but I notice the same things you do. He has an NFL arm, but his decision making can be awful. How are you stacking him up with other QB's you've seen this year?

I think like Chase Daniels best, he reminds me of a spitting image of Drew Brees. He is the one guy I like. Stafford has potential, but that decision making is crazy.

Vandy pulls back within 7 of Uga just before half.

How awful is Wisconsin?

I know Michigan has been really bad, but considering the expectations in Madison, this team is a mockery.

10-3 good guys in Piscataway.

A TD??? What the heck is that?

WOOT!!

GT fumble leads to a Clemson touchdown as a DB hurts a hamstring & leaves a receiver wide open to catch an underthrown pass. 14-10 Tech.

What a horrible call on Clemson with the running into the kicker penalty.

Grant - I have noticed Stafford continues to rise up draft boards, but I notice the same things you do. He has an NFL arm, but his decision making can be awful. How are you stacking him up with other QB's you've seen this year?

I think like Chase Daniels best, he reminds me of a spitting image of Drew Brees. He is the one guy I like. Stafford has potential, but that decision making is crazy.


People love the Proto-type, and he is all that. He has the psychical abilities to be amazing. He has that "superman" mentality that makes him think he can make passes that he just shouldn't. Can he be coached out of it? I don't know. You'd think he would have figured it out by now. I think he'd be very smart to stay one more year, but I doubt he will if he is predicted to go first in the draft, or even in the first 3 picks.

As for Chase Daniels, people are always going to down grade him because he is height. Brees and Flutie has shown that a smaller QB can be successful, but teams still would rather see a qb at 6-4. He might end up being a steal for some team, and if he does go 2nd-3rd round, he might be better off. It'll give him a couple of years to develop before thrusting in the lime-light, and that is usually better than being thrown to the wolves early.

Rutgers got jobbed out of a safety.

Quietly (here at least) Maryland has built a 16-0 lead over Wake Forest with 9 mins left in Q3.

Stafford reminds me of Cutler. Big arm, bad decision making. With Cutler, it has worked so far, but he will lose you games still. I guess it's how many will he lose you compared to how many he might win you.

Clemson driving, Tech defense is out of rhythm while the CU offense is finding a rhythm.
edit: And while I'm typing, TD Clemson on a short throw & good YAC. 17-14 Clemson, 2 mins left in Q3.

Got the safety now.

Tech is getting no blocking on the interior at all. Looks like last week again, and what doesn't make sense to me is why this seemed to turn into a problem so suddenly.

Stafford reminds me of Cutler. Big arm, bad decision making. With Cutler, it has worked so far, but he will lose you games still. I guess it's how many will he lose you compared to how many he might win you.


I don't think that's really a good comparison. If Cutler could have played college in a more traditional offense with better talent around him, i think he'd be a much better QB right now. His bad habits developed out of the fact he was the whole offense at Vandy. He had to force things and take more on his shoulders. I think he'll develop out of it. Stafford has just needed to be a game manager and use the talents around him, and then show off the arm power when it is open. Instead, he still forces things, tries to throw falling away, makes dumb calls.

I pay attention to GT a little because my father-in-law is a grad. How far can Johnson take this team? He was great at Navy, but this offense doesn't look like it can do much more than compete for a bowl game from year to year.

Take make it clearer, Cutler = habit that I think he's good enough to learn out of. Stafford = arrogance that he may have to have knocked out of him.

I pay attention to GT a little because my father-in-law is a grad. How far can Johnson take this team? He was great at Navy, but this offense doesn't look like it can do much more than compete for a bowl game from year to year.


He's done this well with the talent he was handed, and the first year the players are running this offense. I think as he gets his type of players in there, it will be a tough offense to deal with.

Stafford throws another dump pick. Ugh.

Good protection, good movement by Nesbitt, good playcall, throw is right on the money ... and Thomas lets it go right through his fingers in the end zone.
AAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHH !!!

JPhillips -- When the blocking isn't there, it gets ugly pretty quickly. I don't see any problem with the offense winning the conference several times & contending consistently IF Johnson gets the right people for it. We have to remember, this is a makeshift situation, with relatively few players who are actually good fits in this system being on board at this point. It'll be year 3-4 before we really know what it's capable of for sure.

Thanks. Like I said I only follow them from a distance, so I have no idea what the talent situation may be.

Penn State - Michigan is a trap game. I'd be worried if I'm a Nittany Lions fan.

Penn State - Michigan is a trap game. I'd be worried if I'm a Nittany Lions fan.

Meh. Michigan is disappointing to me this year namely because of the defense. I knew this is what our offense would be. But defensivley the tackling is atrocious. If Michigan's D plays up to its potential, I'd agree, but I don't think it happens.

I'll say PSU wins a closer game then many think, but it probably isn't ever a gmae PSU will look like they'll lose.

I'll say PSU 24 UM 10

Gt leads 21-17, 3 mins left, Clemson is 4th & 10 at their own 48. Timeout Clemson. Followed by timeout Georgia Tech.

big play by Clemson there

Harper pressured, throws on the run to a wide open receiver for a 20 yd gain ... HOLDING, ON THE OFFENSE ... 4th & 20 now.

ouch.

Kind of sums up the season for Clemson

Hook and lateral results in a fumble, GT recovers at midfield with 2:31 left.

Thanks Tony Ciarvino. The check is in the mail.

Thanks Tony Ciarvino. The check is in the mail.

nice to see RU get a break finally

The Clemson AD seems like he is a total dbag. Why does he roam the sidelines? That is absurd.

Tech has to punt with :15 left.

Nice win for Rutgers today over UConn. 12-10. We'll take it. 2-5 on the year, but...good to see the defense turn it around and the offense did just enough. Of course, UConn's kicker stinking didn't hurt.

Ugly win for my Jackets, but I'll take it. Our o-line needs some serious work.

And an interception of the hail mary ends it, GT holds on to win 21-17.
Whew.

As pretty as things were against Duke, the past 8 quarters have been damned ugly but it's still a win (and we've already surpassed the win total I expected this season).

Georgia's defense doing enough to save them so far, another Vandy threat stalls and they have to punt again, downing it on the UGA 5 with 8:29 left to play. Still 21-14 Georgia.

Go Vandy!!!!!!

BS touchdown with 23 seconds left gives me the over in the Tech game WOOHOO!!!

Go Vandy!!!!!!


Right back to Nashville.

Dawg's finish them. Finally.

MSU must have thought Boeckman was in at QB on that play.

Wow. Alabama has yet to trail all season.

Tough fumble for MSU. Gotta like Hoyer, though. Gets in hard on the tackle there, plus he tried to throw a block for Ringer earlier when like three guys were on top of him.

Wow. Alabama has yet to trail all season.


They have now. :)

They have now. :)

Ha well you knew it was coming.

Bob Greise is senile, he can't remember what he's already said from sentance to sentance.

Interesting note for Michigan today: TE Carson Butler has moved to DE at his request. Considering he has fallen behind Kevin Koger, a freshman, on the TE depth chart it makes sense.

He is an athletic freak, so maybe he can provide a spark on rush plays.

Talk about shutting the home field advantage up in East lansing....

21-0 Buckeyes.

Michigan might actually not lose as bad as Sparty today. Moral victories. All about 'em this season.

Wait, he was down at the 1, 1st and goal =)

Ok Wells barrells in from the 1. 21-0 Buckeyes with less than 3 to play in the 1st.

Michigan might actually not lose as bad as Sparty today. Moral victories. All about 'em this season.

*chuckles* I love those moral victories ;)

Wow, huge blown chance for MSU there.

Wow, huge blown chance for MSU there.

As the old Sparty saying goes, "they'll break your heart"

Yeah, even I have to feel for the Spartans right now, they've fallen vitcim to shock and awe and they look like a broken high school team.

Nice hit right there though.

That failure to fall on the fumble was just huge, you can't give back the ball like that.

Hey! Michigan looked like a real offense!!!

Too bad we have three plus quarters left.

USC is destroying Washington State. They have scored a TD every drive and are up 41-0. They have close to 400 yards compared to about 20 for WSU with 5 minutes left in the 1st half.

WSU is probably the worst PAC-10 in about 30 years. The spread was 43, but there really shouldnt have been a spread in this game. I wonder if WSU will be shutout? I think they have the longest or second longest streak?

To be a Maryland fan...

Lose to Middle Tenn State, then beat Cal the next week. Lose to Virginia 31-0, beat Wake Forest 26-0 the next week.

woot, Clark fumbles, Michigan recovers!

MSU just looking totally lost. The Buckeyes broke the Spartans hard.

Wow. Clark got killed by Thompson. What a shot.

NIU Huskies up 21-0 on rival Toledo in their homecoming game.

Lots of people believe Toledo ran up the score last year against NIU (score was something like 70-14) so I am interested in seeing what happens.

Bama 24, Ole Nutt 3 at half.

There is that bad tackling again.

And there is that bad fumbling again.

And there is that bad fumbling again.

At least he recovered. Nice pass to Rogers there from Threet.

Tay Odoms is a beast. Reminds me of Santana Moss.

Nobody talking about the Oklahoma-Kansas game it seems. Late 1st half, Ok 14, Ks 10.

Minor is running over people.

Wait, what's in the drinking water down in Durham?

Duke beating Miami? I know the U. has fallen on hard times, but Duke? Really? I know they're improved, but...man. Almost as crazy as the Northwestern over Purdue result I flipped through earlier.

Hawks on a roll the last couple weeks. They have the best RB in the Big Ten. Green is a monster.
Ferentz is working hard to save his job. 8 wins and a warm weather bowl, preferably in Florida, will go a long way to soothing the fans and boosters.

Ole Miss fake punt and they score out of the locker room, down 24-10. John Jessica Parker Wilson then throws a lob directly into the Ole Miss secondary to kill their drive and give Ole Miss the ball back.

USC has been playing their 2nd string (and 3rd/4th string) almost the entire 2nd half, but is still scoring regularly with basic running plays. They are up 62-0 early in the 4th quarter now.

Pitt up huge on Navy, as Shady McCoy is running all over the Navy defense. Nice to see Pitt get some revenge after a disappointing loss to the Naval Academy at Heinz Field last year. Good chance Pitt moves into the top 20 this week.

This is weird. I live in MI and I'm not seeing Michigan play a #3 team. Granted I live in Spartan country so that's probably why.

Nice to see the standard cutaway to Tom Izzo that seems to happen when the Spartans start to go, "Well, at least there is basketball season."

'Bama seems to be working on another non-sexy, but solid win.

by non-sexy I wonder if you mean non-win? Ole Miss back within 7. Bama misses big Cody.

This is weird. I live in MI and I'm not seeing Michigan play a #3 team. Granted I live in Spartan country so that's probably why.

Nice to see the standard cutaway to Tom Izzo that seems to happen when the Spartans start to go, "Well, at least there is basketball season."

'Bama seems to be working on another non-sexy, but solid win.

That is weird. Even when I lived in Grand Rapids, Michigan was ALWAYS on. You don't have it on ESPN2?

USC with 3 backs over 100 yards in the game. 69-0 win.

USC with 3 backs over 100 yards in the game. 69-0 win.

My son has gotten to the point of rooting against every team above them in the polls. Lot of things have to happen for the Trojans to get to #2.

This is weird. I live in MI and I'm not seeing Michigan play a #3 team. Granted I live in Spartan country so that's probably why.

Nice to see the standard cutaway to Tom Izzo that seems to happen when the Spartans start to go, "Well, at least there is basketball season."

'Bama seems to be working on another non-sexy, but solid win.

Michigan should be on ESPN.

And why Rodriguez put in Sheridan for that drive I do not understand.

I assume Threet has to be hurt. After the last drive he was in he came up holding his arm weird.

Feagin is warming up now. I think Threet is hurt.

Michigan's D is so pathetic. I am way more upset with them then our offense. At least I knew the offense would struggle. The defense should not be this horrid.

Michigan's D is so pathetic. I am way more upset with them then our offense. At least I knew the offense would struggle. The defense should not be this horrid.

Yeah that is the main thing I don't understand. They should be solid.

Yeah that is the main thing I don't understand. They should be solid.

They do not tackle. The secondary gives up big plays. Our DL has gotten hardly any pressure. It's just a travesty.

They're saying on the rivals site that Threet is hurt but trying to get back in the game.

And as I type that Royster carves up the D again.

And why Rodriguez put in Sheridan for that drive I do not understand.

Maybe for the same reason Brandon Minor wasn't getting the ball at all before today.

Nice punt there... maybe Ditch-Rod's been personally working with Mesko on his technique.

They do not tackle. The secondary gives up big plays. Our DL has gotten hardly any pressure. It's just a travesty.

Give them a break... wait until Ditch-Rod gets his type of players in Ann Arbor. You can't expect much this season. Blah, blah, blah.

RB Shonn Greene 25 carries 217 yards and 4 TDs
Great day

I would've gone for it if I am PSU. Put the foot down on the head.

Michigan should be on ESPN.

<--- doesn't have cable.

After LSU smoked Appalachian State, they asked them what the biggest difference was compared to Michigan. They said speed. This is a vast reason why Michigan's secondary is so horrible.

Threat back

Good night Michigan

Up 17-7, I wondered how the coaching genius would secure the loss...

ill trade ferentz for rodriguez

Up 17-7, I wondered how the coaching genius would secure the loss...

Okay Michigan Schmidty.

This is not a good team. The D was overrated and the offense has 1 OL coming into the year with any game experience. Our QB's are a red shirt freshman and a walk on.

Should we be better?

Yes. Toledo was a joke but beyond that we haven't lost any game you could look at in the pre-season and say we shoulda won.

Maybe for the same reason Brandon Minor wasn't getting the ball at all before today.

Nice punt there... maybe Ditch-Rod's been personally working with Mesko on his technique.

You mean the fact that up until this point Minor refused to hold the ball correctly leading to what, 5 fumbles?

Up 17-7, I wondered how the coaching genius would secure the loss...

Honestly, just go cheer for another team. I know this really should not be on this board, but I just get tired of people bitching just to bitch.

OU is up 45-24 on #16 Kansas in the 4th quarter. The backups are in now, and Sam Bradford finishes the day 36 out of 53 for 468 yards, 3 TD's and no INT's.

Ok guys, you're right... there is nothing to bitch about when it comes to the season Michigan is having and the amazing job that Rodrigues is doing of coaching this team. It is not his fault that his offense couldn't be adjusted to accommodate the best QB on campus, resulting in his transfer (which likely influenced at least Arrington to go pro.)

From now on I will try to look at things positively! Next season we get a true freshman at QB. It will be exciting to see how the team might develop into a contender in the Big Ten in 2012 or so, if he gets his type of players.

Ok guys, you're right... there is nothing to bitch about when it comes to the season Michigan is having and the amazing job that Rodrigues is doing of coaching this team. It is not his fault that his offense couldn't be adjusted to accommodate the best QB on campus, resulting in his transfer (which likely influenced at least Arrington to go pro.)

From now on I will try to look at things positively! Next season we get a true freshman at QB. It will be exciting to see how the team might develop into a contender in the Big Ten in 2012 or so, if he gets his type of players.

No one said that there is "nothing to bitch about" -- people only took issue with the fact that you were bitching while we had a 10 point lead. The rest of us Michigan fans were busy rooting for the team to win, that's all.

My problem is you're bitching as if this current team would be a hundred times better with someone else coaching. The D would be the same still. Sure the offense might have Boren, but that's it. Mallett was leaving regardless. So we might have a couple more OL but that is it.

We'd still be a 6 or 7 win team if you want my opinion so take the lumps now and remember these struggles two years from now when we're competing for the BCS.

wow what a tough day.
Clemson managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again. Two tough calls (the running into kicker, and the holding) that at least on the jumbo screen looked iffy at best (the hold; we definitely rolled into a kicker who still had his leg in the air when the punt was caught)....exciting day for the young coach though.

Then things got interesting. A minor scuffle broke out behind us in the stands, I stepped in to try and restore peace (honestly it was all caused by a drunk GT fan being obnoxious, but a fellow CU fan threw a fairly quick punch) well some other GT fan from 2 rows above decides to come up and dump a coke on my 5 year old daughters head.
Like yells at me, "Wanna get involved, how you like this?" and dumps a full coke on my now screaming daughters head. She promptly kicked him in the leg, but I was not so polite. That ended with a short conversation with the police and probably need to get my hand stitched up.... Random GT idiot will be taken to jail, after he leaves medical attention I am told.

I probably need to just hush until I speak with my atty.

But all in all Clemsosn D looked good, and our O was a bit different, but we still cant block anyone. Wheen PJ gets HIS players, that O will probably be tough to stop.

Another late garbage TD, this time by KU gives me the cover and the second half over. WooT!

Maybe I have fallen into looking at Michigan in the same light as the Lions.

I'd have loved to see Michigan win this game. I'd love to see Michigan win every game.

It makes me sick to think of where this season is going and the excuses that are out there for where this team is at. A coach's job is to put a team in the best possible position to win. Not to win next year or the year after that, but to win the game to be played.

All I have seen from Rich Rodriguez is a coach who has a scheme. His team will play this specific scheme whether the players fit it or not. Does a player do something different better? Tough. I do believe that Michigan will have players who fit his scheme better in a few years. I also feel that in a few years the spread offense will be another scheme that teams will have adjusted to. Will Rodriguez adjust? I don't know... I haven't seen anything that suggests his ego will allow it.

Arkansas started off great against Kentucky and was within half a yard of being up 14-0 with all the momentum. For some reason, Petrino runs our little back Michael Smith up the middle twice in a row and he is stuffed hard and loses the ball on the second one. Now Kentucky is about to tie it up I'm afraid, driving the ball in Arkansas territory midway through the 2nd quarter.

Still 7-0 Arkansas as of now, though.

Well, Lloyd ran left last year even when Mike Hart was hurt, and we saw how awful that became at times. Every coach is stubborn. RichRod didn't get hired at Michigan though to run the I.

Kentucky missed the FG and Arkansas moved it a bit and had to punt back to KY. Kentucky has the ball on their own 12 now. 7-0 Arkansas, getting late in the 2nd quarter.

Kentucky fumbles and Arkansas capitalizes 3 plays later, 14-0 Arkansas 1:15 to go before half. Arkansas has the ball to start the second half.

It looks like all of this hype over the Big XII needs to be revised to the Big XII South.

OMG what a catch by Williams. Crushing for Mizzou having UT in 3-12

Arkansas again capitalizes on a KY turnover and leads 17-0. 9:45 to go in the 3rd.

The Duncan Apartments cable package isn't good enough to get the Arkansas/Kentucky game. :(

My problem is you're bitching as if this current team would be a hundred times better with someone else coaching. The D would be the same still. Sure the offense might have Boren, but that's it. Mallett was leaving regardless. So we might have a couple more OL but that is it.

We'd still be a 6 or 7 win team if you want my opinion so take the lumps now and remember these struggles two years from now when we're competing for the BCS.

I will say this though. Good coaches build game plans around the talent they have versus forcing a scheme onto a team that can't handle it. Rich could have gone in and done a more conventional offense with shades of what he is going to add eventually and let people adjust to it that way. Nebraska tried to go from an option offense into a pro style offense in one season and we all know how well that went.

Michigan in a bad year can put together a top 25 recruiting class. RR can't take that type of talent and squeeze out anything better than what looks to be a max 4 win season? Really? Loses to Utah and Toledo at home and a mere 10 victory against Miami(OH)? As I posted previously in last weeks thread, Michigan has lost that kind of talent recently and came away with at worst a 7 win season. I really can't want for the RR backers to be looking at a possible 3 win season and trying to blame it solely on Michigan's sudden lack of talent.

Texas looks every bit the #1 team in the country

Texas looks every bit the #1 team in the country

I've got to agree, and it looks like Missouri has turned out to be a mirage, shielded by their membership in the Big XII North.

I've got to agree, and it looks like Missouri has turned out to be a mirage, shielded by their membership in the Big XII North.

17 yard punts don't help. They keep giving UT the ball on the 50

Kentucky with a long pass play and it's 17-7. Arkansas trying to move the ball but trying to shoot themselves in the foot. Need to move it and keep the momentum.

17 yard punts don't help. They keep giving UT the ball on the 50

Missouri has 14 total yards to Texas' 245. One first down to Texas' 12. They're getting manhandled on both sides of the ball.

Tennessee misses a short FG (may have been partially blocked), still leads Miss. St. 13-3 with 1:30 left in Q3.

Boston College scores again, now 21-10 over VaTech with 6:43 left in Q2.

Texas looks good, if they keep playing like this I don't think anyone can beat them...seriously.

TD SC, ties LSU 10-10 with 2:38 left in the first half.

I hate LSU's current DCs(yes, there are two of them). I believe they both are made of suckage. They took everything that was once great about LSU Ds and have pissed all over it.

When we blitz (which isn't often enough) we can't cover anything underneath, when we don't blitz we still can't cover anything underneath.

Interception by SC on a bad throw, good return, they'll be first & goal.

And yes there is still that mess at QB.

And yes there is still that mess at QB.

Maybe Tennessee & LSU could work out a trade, sort of like swapping long relievers with ERA's of around 6.37?

And South Carolina might be willing to make it a three way swap, after watching their QB fumbled the snap on 3rd & goal at the 1 yd line (even if he did recover his own fumble).

I will say this though. Good coaches build game plans around the talent they have versus forcing a scheme onto a team that can't handle it. Rich could have gone in and done a more conventional offense with shades of what he is going to add eventually and let people adjust to it that way. Nebraska tried to go from an option offense into a pro style offense in one season and we all know how well that went.

Michigan in a bad year can put together a top 25 recruiting class. RR can't take that type of talent and squeeze out anything better than what looks to be a max 4 win season? Really? Loses to Utah and Toledo at home and a mere 10 victory against Miami(OH)? As I posted previously in last weeks thread, Michigan has lost that kind of talent recently and came away with at worst a 7 win season. I really can't want for the RR backers to be looking at a possible 3 win season and trying to blame it solely on Michigan's sudden lack of talent.

The problem is the players executing. we look unstoppable a handful of series a game then it falls apart. Yes Rich has been bad but the players have been awful.

Wow, Texas is good

Maybe Tennessee & LSU could work out a trade, sort of like swapping long relievers with ERA's of around 6.37?

And South Carolina might be willing to make it a three way swap, after watching their QB fumbled the snap on 3rd & goal at the 1 yd line (even if he did recover his own fumble).

I think one day J. Lee could be a great QB, he has all the tools. But he is as green as a RS Freshman QB can be, so its hard to know if he will ever fully develop. Right now he has moments of greatness surrounded by lots of poor play.

Tennessee gets a 72 yd pick six from Eric Berry to go up 20-3 in the 4th. That gives Berry 397 career interception return yards, a new SEC record.

Scouth Carolina gets a questionable TD (in? not in?) on 4th & goal from the 1 to go up 17-10 over LSU late in the 1st half.

And VaTech gets a 55 yd pick six to pull back within 21-17 just before halftime.

And in other news, Missouri gets a FG to start their comeback. 35-3 Texas at the half.

32 yd INT return by Demetrius Morley for another TD, Vols leads 27-3.

And BC gets a quick score to go back up by two scores, 28-17 less than 1 min left in the first half.

We are getting our asses handed to us, but what an awful pass interference call when it was 14-0 and we actually started to put a drive together.

Texas is damn good though... oh and our defense is horrible..

Arkansas with 1st and goal at the 3 up 17-7 in the 4th quarter.

Settled for a FG because of a TD negating penalty. 20-7 with under 10 to go.

Tennessee tacks on another score with a fairly short but steady drive on the ground. 34-3 with about two minutes left.

Good grief, wish I had noticed this game earlier (and had seen the first quarter).

4 minutes to go, it's 63-35 Tulsa over UTEP, it was 28-28 at the end of the first.

edit to add: My bad. That was 4 minutes left in the third quarter, now 70-35. The game is on CBSCS by the way.

We are getting our asses handed to us, but what an awful pass interference call when it was 14-0 and we actually started to put a drive together.

Just be thankful that Missouri isn't in the Big XII South. They'd be battling it out for 5th place.

Tulsa goes for it on 4th down from the 3, gets a procedure call, goes for it again from the 8 and scores. 77-35 with 8:51 left. First one I didn't have a problem with, after the false start though ... well, seems like overdoing it a little bit to me. They've got the full 2nd unit in there but maybe that was time to get the backup kicker some live action instead.

Well now, the LSU defensive coordinators come back from halftime and coach their best half of football all year. Small step in the right direction, will be interesting to see what we can do at home against UGA.

Small step in the right direction, will be interesting to see what we can do at home against UGA.

Hopefully beat their ass. :D

Hopefully beat their ass. :D


Suck it. :)

Well now, the LSU defensive coordinators come back from halftime and coach their best half of football all year. Small step in the right direction, will be interesting to see what we can do at home against UGA.


Sadly, probably destroy them. The O-line is in really bad shape at this point. A really good front is going to kill them.

....Do I even want to know how the fuck we blew a 20-7 lead with under 10 minutes to go and lost 21-20?

....Do I even want to know how the fuck we blew a 20-7 lead with under 10 minutes to go and lost 21-20?

I'm going to take a wild guess & figure you mean Arkansas v Kentucky.
And it was actually a 20-7 lead with under 5 minutes to go.

4th quarter possessions for Arkansas
Start UK 48 - 5 plays 11 yards: Punt
Start AR 41 - 1 play 0 yard: Fumble
Start AR 17 - 3 plays -5 yards: Punt
Start AR 13 - 4 plays -8 yards: Interception

Meanwhile UK scores in 0:41 (2 plays 41 yards) & 0:29 (2 plays 35 yards).

It felt great after being in Ann Arbor for the 2005 & 2007 games for Penn State to run it up a little on Michigan.

I'm going to take a wild guess & figure you mean Arkansas v Kentucky.
And it was actually a 20-7 lead with under 5 minutes to go.

4th quarter possessions for Arkansas
Start UK 48 - 5 plays 11 yards: Punt
Start AR 41 - 1 play 0 yard: Fumble
Start AR 17 - 3 plays -5 yards: Punt
Start AR 13 - 4 plays -8 yards: Interception

Meanwhile UK scores in 0:41 (2 plays 41 yards) & 0:29 (2 plays 35 yards).

.... Fucking Casey Dick.

Always throws an INT at the worst possible time. :mad:

The rented mule was beaten. Next up, a very tough Oklahoma State team. They always seem to play Texas tough.

The rented mule was beaten. Next up, a very tough Oklahoma State team. They always seem to play Texas tough.

I made a killing on your boys tonight

.... Fucking Casey Dick. Always throws an INT at the worst possible time. :mad:

Actually the 4th quarter INT was on 4th & 18 from his own 5 after they trailed.

The killing blows look like a D'Anthony Curtis fumble at his own 41 and then the 3-and-out followed by a 37 yd punt that gave UK the ball in Arkansas territory to start the game-winning drive. 'Course letting Hartline go 4-4 for 76 yds & 2 TD's in the final 4:47 didn't help matters either.

The rented mule was beaten. Next up, a very tough Oklahoma State team. They always seem to play Texas tough.

Correction. They always seem to play Texas tough in the first half.

There's a good game on Fox Sports right now. Arizona leads Cal 35-27 late in the 3rd quarter.

And on the Mountain Network, UNLV leads Air Force 28-26, early in the 4th quarter.

Suck it. :)

Haha. IMO, UGA wins a close one.

Just be thankful that Missouri isn't in the Big XII South. They'd be battling it out for 5th place.

The South is scary for sure...

Last week killed me.. this week wasn't as much wear emotionally as last week was.

I still love my Tigers though and can't wait to watch more Big XII action next week.

GT's win today makes them 6-1 for the first time since 1999. They finished 8-4.
The last 6-1 start before that was 1990.

GT's win today makes them 6-1 for the first time since 1999. They finished 8-4.
The last 6-1 start before that was 1990.

Given the rest of their schedule I don't think 8-4 would be bad at all. I mean, Virginia, FSU, Miami and hell maybe North Carolina are so jekyl and hyde that perhaps an optimist could see 9-3 or even 10-2, but I would really be thrilled to have this team go 8-4.

It felt great after being in Ann Arbor for the 2005 & 2007 games for Penn State to run it up a little on Michigan.

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This game was the first all year where PSU had their backs against the wall a little bit. Important to see them rebound a little bit when the opposing team doesn't roll over and die in the 1st quarter and puts up resistance.

Hopefully, this (combined with tOSU's throttling of MSU) will serve as the effective wake-up call for next week.

GT's win today makes them 6-1 for the first time since 1999. They finished 8-4.
The last 6-1 start before that was 1990.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I'm supposed to hate you, blah, blah, blah...

I'm glad Johnson doing well. I hope he has success there. Well, just enough success that they win the ACC and lose to UGA every year, but success. :D

Given the rest of their schedule I don't think 8-4 would be bad at all. I mean, Virginia, FSU, Miami and hell maybe North Carolina are so jekyl and hyde that perhaps an optimist could see 9-3 or even 10-2, but I would really be thrilled to have this team go 8-4.

You look at those four and say "Virgina-win, North Carolina-win, Miami-possible win, FSU-probable win." But then, like you said, who the heck knows? The ACC is insane this year.

Update: i hate everybody

Update: i hate everybody

:rolleyes:

Tulsa goes for it on 4th down from the 3, gets a procedure call, goes for it again from the 8 and scores. 77-35 with 8:51 left. First one I didn't have a problem with, after the false start though ... well, seems like overdoing it a little bit to me. They've got the full 2nd unit in there but maybe that was time to get the backup kicker some live action instead.

So a bunch of folks from the DFW chapter of the UTEP Alumni Association made the trip up to Tulsa. I decided instead to stay at home and spend some time with my wife since this is the first weekend off I've had in about six weeks.

I think I made the right choice. God, the ride home after the game had to have been miserable for them...

What you don't think you would've enjoyed the circus with your friends?

:eek::eek:

So a bunch of folks from the DFW chapter of the UTEP Alumni Association made the trip up to Tulsa. I decided instead to stay at home and spend some time with my wife since this is the first weekend off I've had in about six weeks. I think I made the right choice. God, the ride home after the game had to have been miserable for them...

For some reason the idea of a "Real Men of Genius" spot with those guys flashed through my mind when reading this. I don't think I could even begin to do it justice but it has some potential.

You look at those four and say "Virgina-win, North Carolina-win, Miami-possible win, FSU-probable win." But then, like you said, who the heck knows? The ACC is insane this year.

I'm more worried about the road game at UNC than the home game vs Miami, though with Tate done for the year maybe I shouldn't be.

Next week vs a Virginia team that has come alive big time will be very interesting.

To be a Maryland fan...

Lose to Middle Tenn State, then beat Cal the next week. Lose to Virginia 31-0, beat Wake Forest 26-0 the next week.

You know, you'd think we would be upset by things like this, but honestly, we're used to it.

On a side note, I have Maryland season tickets, so I was at the game yesterday. It was freaking quiet. The band wasn't playing as much as it usually does, there wasn't as much noise coming from the student section. Just felt like the energy wasn't there. For now, I'm blaming it on the noon games, but I can attest that the EMU game was a lot more...noisy than the Wake Forest game, though I think they were both noon kickoffs.

/tk

Apparently destroying two highly ranked teams isn't enough.

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3651458)

Also, BCS Standings (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3652334)

Apparently destroying two highly ranked teams isn't enough.

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3651458)

Also, BCS Standings (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3652334)

Well, I wouldn't say that Texas "destroyed" Oklahoma, but I do think the argument he makes is bogus. It always seems when a group of teams have great offenses its attributed to bad defense. When teams have bad offenses (SEC), it's always great defense. Big 12 has great offenses this season almost across the board, so he better get used to high scores.

I think I've got a nominee for the Pontiac Game-Changing performance this week: A really nice hit by the Ref on the South Carolina QB. It's rare that you see an official step up and make a big play like this.

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I think I've got a nominee for the Pontiac Game-Changing performance this week: A really nice hit by the Ref on the South Carolina QB. It's rare that you see an official step up and make a big play like this.

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WTF?

Am I completely insane, or did that ref intentionally go out of his way to lay a hit on the QB?

WTF?

Am I completely insane, or did that ref intentionally go out of his way to lay a hit on the QB?

He closes on him, gets squared up and accelerates into the hit. Should've wrapped him up, though - a better runner might've kept his balance.

I heard about this but I had no idea it was that blatant. What the heck??

He closes on him, gets squared up and accelerates into the hit. Should've wrapped him up, though - a better runner might've kept his balance.

I think I saw that live and it didn't look as bad as it does on replay. Or else I just wasn't paying as much attention to any replays at the time.