First off, congrats Wanny for taking the Pitt Panthers from a BCS bowl to....well no bowl game. :rolleyes: Now to today's game. Vince Young doesn't look like he will be winning the Heisman if he needed to have a "Heisman moment" today. A&M is hanging tough so far.

Wow, A&M looking solid. I'm sure Texas will still hang on and win, but this may be a lot closer than I had figured.

Go Aggies!!

FUMBBBLLEEE!!

we have Penn State's attention.

I don't know what to think about this game actually - I'm torn. On one side, I always like to see Texas lose. On the other, I really want to see USC lose, and I think Texas has the best chance to beat them in the Rose Bowl. This is a truly painful set of options for a Sooners fan. :D

That QB from Texas A&M has some big balls. He takes a licken and keeps on tickin! Aggies up 1

Blocked punt by the Horns returned for a TD. Oh well it was fun while it lasted

and game over...blocked punt for a TD for the Longhorns

Game not over...this is agonizing for a PSU fan

You know, when this kid from A&M came in against Oklahoma, I thought to myself "How is this slow kid running so well against our defense?" But apparently, he's not so slow and must be far shiftier than he appears on television because he's doing a great job against Texas, a very solid defense.

Arkansas about to try for 2 to tie up the game at LSU in the 4th quarter.

A halfback pass on 4th down? Nutt has nuts.

i hate everyone.

That was a great tough game by Arkansas. Almost...

Great game, Arkansas.

Bad game for LSU. Except for the D, which won the game. The offense could not have looked more inept.

Assuming a loss by USC or Texas, I'm thinking this will hurt LSU in the polls too much for a win over Georgia next week to redeem. That's just my guess, but it looks like PSU has a clear shot at that possible national championship game if one of the undefeateds loses. I was thinking LSU needed convincing wins over Arkansas and Georgia to have a chance.

But then what do I know?

i hate everyone.

Don't you know the rules. Arkansas is allowed only one miracle win over LSU each century.

It's the day after Thanksgiving, and we still have a chance to see Iowa St and South Florida in the BCS.

I am trying to figure out this COL-NEB game. Everytime I saw the Huskers play this year, their offense was absolutely putrid. Now I have not seen the entire game, but from what I have seen, Taylor has looked pretty good. I guess Callahan has a shot to turn it around next year after all

It's the day after Thanksgiving, and we still have a chance to see Iowa St and South Florida in the BCS.

If you would have told me at the beginning of the season that the team with the best shot at a BCS bid coming out of the state of Florida was the South Florida Bulls, I would have told you you were nuts.

Game not over...this is agonizing for a PSU fan

Tell me about it. Now our hopes rest with UCLA and Iowa State.

What sucks is I'd take UCLA over PSU. Too bad UCLA laid a fat nut vs Arizona. I still dont know how the F we lost to UofA

What sucks is I'd take UCLA over PSU. Too bad UCLA laid a fat nut vs Arizona. I still dont know how the F we lost to UofA
UCLA over PSU? The Bruins have absolutely no defense. PSU's distinct advantage at defense makes them a better overall team.

Good game Buffs. :rolleyes:

I can't believe they can still win the Big 12 North with an Iowa State loss tomorrow...they certainly don't deserve it. They were 14 point favorites going into this game...and we have some idiot fans who threw stuff onto the field. Just an ugly, embarassing loss. I had hoped that Barnett would be gone after this season, but I think I read somewhere that he was recently offered a contract extension. Meh.

UCLA over PSU? The Bruins have absolutely no defense. PSU's distinct advantage at defense makes them a better overall team.

Or the fact that they play in a very skill oriented conference where the teams are very good in the offensive department

What sucks is I'd take UCLA over PSU. Too bad UCLA laid a fat nut vs Arizona. I still dont know how the F we lost to UofA

Losing 58-14 to a 3 win team is not going to gain you much respect. Have you watched any games outside of the Pac 10 this year? Because after talking to you and seeing what you post on here makes me think otherwise. UCLA has two wins over ranked opponents this year, Oklahoma and California. Neither of those two teams are all that good. Cal has no quarterback, Joe Ayoob stinks. UCLA beat Oklahoma in the beginning of the year when they were still breaking in a freshman QB. So when you break it down, UCLA has not beaten anyone that is in the Top 25 right now.

Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!

Go Warriors!

UTEP gets another shot at CUSA West today when we take on SMU in Dallas. Hopefully the large UTEP crowd there (including yours truly) will give the Miners a boost because SMU isn't the pushover they once were...

Losing 58-14 to a 3 win team is not going to gain you much respect. Have you watched any games outside of the Pac 10 this year? Because after talking to you and seeing what you post on here makes me think otherwise. UCLA has two wins over ranked opponents this year, Oklahoma and California. Neither of those two teams are all that good. Cal has no quarterback, Joe Ayoob stinks. UCLA beat Oklahoma in the beginning of the year when they were still breaking in a freshman QB. So when you break it down, UCLA has not beaten anyone that is in the Top 25 right now.

No worries. :)

I really hope Rutgers can win tomorrow and put a little energy back into this season. I'd feel much better about a 7-4 season and entering a bowl game then backing into one at 6-5 on 3 straight losses.

I haven't checked, but I really hope Ryan Hart is starting at QB tomorrow. Mike Teel (freshman) has been fucking terrible.

It could be Rutgers vs. Stanford in a bowl game if Stanford can beat Notre Dame. Or Notre Dame could show up tomorrow, and Stanford will be home for bowl week again.

It could be Rutgers vs. Stanford in a bowl game if Stanford can beat Notre Dame. Or Notre Dame could show up tomorrow, and Stanford will be home for bowl week again.
Actually I think a Stanford win likely knocks Rutgers out of a bowl game entirely -especially if Rutgers loses.

The Big East only has 4 bowl bids (BCS+3)

Right now they only have 4 bowl eligible teams: South Florida, West Virginia, Louisville, Rutgers

UConn is the only school left that can become bowl eligible, but that would require beating South Florida and Louisville... so pretty unlikely.


Now the problem is that Notre Dame is affiliated with the Big East when it comes to bowl bids. So if Notre Dame doesn't grab a BCS at-large bit, then it means they snag a Big East bid. Guess who's getting shut out at that point?

I can see it now, BCS Matchps

Rose: Penn State (#1) vs. USC (#2)
Fiesta: Iowa State (Big XII) vs. UCLA (Pac 10)
Sugar: Georgia (SEC) vs. Notre Dame (at-large)
Orange: South Florida (Big East) vs. Florida State (ACC)

Actually I think a Stanford win likely knocks Rutgers out of a bowl game entirely -especially if Rutgers loses.

The Big East only has 4 bowl bids (BCS+3)

Right now they only have 4 bowl eligible teams: South Florida, West Virginia, Louisville, Rutgers

UConn is the only school left that can become bowl eligible, but that would require beating South Florida and Louisville... so pretty unlikely.


Now the problem is that Notre Dame is affiliated with the Big East when it comes to bowl bids. So if Notre Dame doesn't grab a BCS at-large bit, then it means they snag a Big East bid. Guess who's getting shut out at that point?

Nah, there are only 6 teams from the SEC going to bowl games this year...only seven from the Big 12 if OU can hang on tomorrow vs. OSU. There WILL be spots in bowls for at-large teams. Rutgers is a pretty big media market, and ESPN will probably have some influence on the bowl selections.

So, when does the Big East lost their BCS spot? I assume they are under contract for a period of time, but when that contract runs out, can that BCS spot be given to another conference? Can you give multiple BCS bids to a conference? I would think no, since that would make every other major conference throw a shitfit. How about another at-large spot instead of a Big East team? If the Big East team goes 12-0 or 11-1, they could be considered, but I just don't see South Florida knocking off a high-caliber ACC team.

South Florida may now post this on their bulletin board.

So, when does the Big East lost their BCS spot? I assume they are under contract for a period of time, but when that contract runs out, can that BCS spot be given to another conference? Can you give multiple BCS bids to a conference? I would think no, since that would make every other major conference throw a shitfit. How about another at-large spot instead of a Big East team? If the Big East team goes 12-0 or 11-1, they could be considered, but I just don't see South Florida knocking off a high-caliber ACC team.

South Florida may now post this on their bulletin board.

There isn't a contract, per se. The BCS conferences have certain performance requirements to keep their automatic berth. A conference can lose it's automatic berth if the conference champion does not have an average ranking of #12 or higher over a 4 year period.

I think they should remove the BCS bid and make it a quasi-at-large bid. Give it to the highest ranked conference champsion not in the BCS (my new, revised BCS).

So the breakdown would be:



ACC champ
Big 10 champ
Big 12 champ
PAC-10 champ
SEC Champ
Highest Ranked Champ of the following conferences: Big East, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt, WAC
2 At-large

Hell lets just remove all the bcs bids and make them all at large.. 1-8 from the bcs polls and have ourselves a playoff

Nah, there are only 6 teams from the SEC going to bowl games this year...only seven from the Big 12 if OU can hang on tomorrow vs. OSU. There WILL be spots in bowls for at-large teams. Rutgers is a pretty big media market, and ESPN will probably have some influence on the bowl selections. I haven't started looking at all avenues yet, but that sounds promising. Being the fan of the teams I am (Jets, Rutgers) I've been looking at every possible way this thing can blow up in my face.

I'm hoping that even in a worst-case scenario Rutgers makes it a bowl game. I'm really hoping they can land in the Meineke Car Care Bowl in Charolotte, as I could actually attend that one.

The Top 4 teams in the coaches poll should play the week immediately following the conference championships. 4 @ 1 and 3 @ 2. Winners play in the BCS Championship Bowl regardless of conference/traditions and the entire rest of the division go on to play their regularly scheduled bowl games (to include the losers of the mini-4 team Championship playoff. And don't give me any crap about #5 or beyond. If you were even considered #5 (questionably or not) by the coaches, you aren't worthy of competing for #1. End of Story.

So, when does the Big East lost their BCS spot? I assume they are under contract for a period of time, but when that contract runs out, can that BCS spot be given to another conference? Can you give multiple BCS bids to a conference? I would think no, since that would make every other major conference throw a shitfit. How about another at-large spot instead of a Big East team? If the Big East team goes 12-0 or 11-1, they could be considered, but I just don't see South Florida knocking off a high-caliber ACC team.

South Florida may now post this on their bulletin board.

The contract runs through 2007. West Virginia is 9-1 and was 11th in the BCS going into this week, which is higher than anyone in any of the non-BCS conferences. After the 2007 season they will re-evaluate, and the Big East will probably maintain its BCS bid.

Gah.
Why can't a consistent Terps team show up?

The best thing to come out of this season is that some of our younger guys are getting experience. :\

/tk

10-0 Rutgers with 2:49 to go in the first.

Woot!

Or the fact that they play in a very skill oriented conference where the teams are very good in the offensive department Oh there's no doubt that the Pac-10 has very skilled teams offensively. But when all you have is offense, you're going to lose games against a team like Arizona.

And when you play teams that also have a good offense, like Penn State (28th in total offense), and also have a good defense, more times than not, you're going to lose.

we have Penn State's attention.

Who is "we"?

I think they should remove the BCS bid and make it a quasi-at-large bid. Give it to the highest ranked conference champsion not in the BCS (my new, revised BCS).

So the breakdown would be:



ACC champ
Big 10 champ
Big 12 champ
PAC-10 champ
SEC Champ
Highest Ranked Champ of the following conferences: Big East, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt, WAC
2 At-large


There's gonna be 2 extra at-large bids next year, so there is no need for the Big east to lose its bid.

Who is "we"?
if you'd been watching the Texas-Texas A&M game, you would have gotten it. It makes no sense out of context and had nothing to do with Rutgers.

17-3 Rutgers, BTW.

Actually I think a Stanford win likely knocks Rutgers out of a bowl game entirely -especially if Rutgers loses.

The Big East only has 4 bowl bids (BCS+3)

Right now they only have 4 bowl eligible teams: South Florida, West Virginia, Louisville, Rutgers

UConn is the only school left that can become bowl eligible, but that would require beating South Florida and Louisville... so pretty unlikely.


Now the problem is that Notre Dame is affiliated with the Big East when it comes to bowl bids. So if Notre Dame doesn't grab a BCS at-large bit, then it means they snag a Big East bid. Guess who's getting shut out at that point?

nah CT, we're pretty good. If Stanford wins, than Oregon and Ohio State get the BCS at-large spots. If the Big Ten gets 2 BCS spots, they don't fill the Motor City Bowl, and then that spot goes to a Big east team if we have enough eligible teams.

It shouldn't come to that tho.

nah CT, we're pretty good. If Stanford wins, than Oregon and Ohio State get the BCS at-large spots. If the Big Ten gets 2 BCS spots, they don't fill the Motor City Bowl, and then that spot goes to a Big east team if we have enough eligible teams.

It shouldn't come to that tho.
I won't feel safe until it's offical, man. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/smile.gif

23-3 at the half. Thank you Mark Dantonio.

23-3 at the half. Thank you Mark Dantonio. yeah, nice bonus field goal at the end of the half there! even more breathing room.

It's sounding like Rutgers is a lock for the Insight Bowl (vs. Arizona State), as they really want them there (for some reason). They just intereviewed the two guys in charge of the bowl and they made it very clear Rutgers is their pick.

I think the only monkey wrenches left would be both a collapse in this game and a Notre Dame loss.

I'm a bit bummed as I could have actually attended the game in Charlotte. I don't think I can afford the haul to Phoenix.

TD Ray Rice. No collapse today Mr Corey.

wow, Maryland is totally imploding right now (i've got Maryland-NC video, Rutgers audio going :D)

wow, Maryland is totally imploding right now (i've got Maryland-NC video, Rutgers audio going :D)

Me too.

wow, it is pretty amusing that Rutgers appears to be headed up against Arizona St..... the last (and only) team they've ever played in a bowl.

It's sounding like Rutgers is a lock for the Insight Bowl (vs. Arizona State), as they really want them there (for some reason). They just intereviewed the two guys in charge of the bowl and they made it very clear Rutgers is their pick.Lot of Jersey transplants in Arizona? That's the only reason I can think.

Lot of Jersey transplants in Arizona? That's the only reason I can think.
That was my thought, it is the New York area they'd be getting some attention from. And they basically seem to be choosing between South Florida and Rutgers (unless South Florida wins the conference or Notre Dame loses).

Still, it's weird to hear anyone actually want Rutgers and sound excited about it.

Another Rutgers TD, 37-3. It's all over but the field storming.

Another Rutgers TD, 37-3. It's all over but the field storming.
Now is the time to get Mike Teel some game action. If he's the future (god help us) get the kid some more experience where you can.

TD Brian Leonard~!

44-9. Put in the backups.

How not to show up your receiver, by Brian Luke of Kansas.

OU is doing pretty well so far today.

TD Brian Leonard~!

44-9. Put in the backups.
Congrats man. We've waited through a lot of bullshit, and now it looks like this may actually be the breakthrough season.

Kansas is bowl eligible!

Fox Sports just killed me. KU gets the ball back with under 2 to play, needing a TD to tie, and blanks out here on the feed. They come back and I see KU 21 ISU 21 on the top line!

We're going bowling! (Oh, and have fun in the Big XII Title Game, Buffs- I don't wish a matchup with Texas on anyone)

SI

Congrats man. We've waited through a lot of bullshit, and now it looks like this may actually be the breakthrough season.

You too. It feels good. Might have taken longer than some people wanted, but it makes it feel even better.

You too. It feels good. Might have taken longer than some people wanted, but it makes it feel even better.

Just got back from the game. Freezing, but damn it feels good.

Maybe Rutgers can get more of the top New Jersey kids to come now. Or go into the Miami area and build a pipeline.

South Florida just lost to UConn and that clinches the Big East title and BCS spot for West Virginia.

Time for some Clean Old-Fashioned Hate.

We're bigger and stronger....so we throw on 3rd and 1. {Sigh}

South Florida just lost to UConn and that clinches the Big East title and BCS spot for West Virginia.Damn, i have simpathy for South Florida since i coached them in the FOFC FBCB league. Does it happen to you guys? do you follow real life teams only because you have coached them in games?

We're bigger and stronger....so we throw on 3rd and 1. {Sigh}
I nearly threw something at the TV. GET FIRST DOWNS AND STOP BEING CUTE!!!

BTW, did you see that first run by Lumpkin? Was it jst me or did he look like he went out of his way to hit someone before running through the hole?

BTW, did you see that first run by Lumpkin? Was it jst me or did he look like he went out of his way to hit someone before running through the hole?Yup. Good stuff. :)

Is the UGA game on locally?

Is the UGA game on locally?

Yes. They have three games on in different areas.

This is absurd. Four reviews in 13 game minutes. Sheesh.

The officials in the UGA-GT are going review crazy.

This is absurd. Four reviews in 13 game minutes. Sheesh.

Yeah, this one isn't even close. Just play ball.

no mention of South Florida blowing it today? West Virginia has won the Big East.

no mention of South Florida blowing it today? West Virginia has won the Big East.

There have been several mentions.

Yes. They have three games on in different areas.
I'd much rather watch yours than ND-Stanford, which I'd guess is my option.

YOUR MY BOY, BLUE!!!

If I see another three-pass-and-out possession by the team with the three stud backs and the veteran offensive line, I think I'm going to freakin' scream.

If I see another three-pass-and-out possession by the team with the three stud backs and the veteran offensive line, I think I'm going to freakin' scream.

Not to mention Shockley is either passing to little men in the grass or to the Jolly Green Giant.

ND showing why they deserve that BCS bid...14-14 in the 2nd qtr @ Stanford.

That's four straight passes now...

Ah....and we finally run it....nine yards....3rd and one now...I reckon it is time to throw again.

Gee....the running game is working. Imagine that. :rolleyes:

My soul!!! Why does he ALWAYS insist on getting cute??? :mad:

ND showing why they deserve that BCS bid...14-14 in the 2nd qtr @ Stanford.
A Notre Dame loss would be part 2 in the Rutgers doomsday scenario. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/redface.gif

My soul!!! Why does he ALWAYS insist on getting cute??? :mad:That's his FSU upbringing. You really need to read the FSU playbook. Florida did. :)

oh yeah, gonna get me some OSU Sucks cake at work monday. Me and this guy had a bet at work, that whichever team lost, the loser had to buy a cake that said his team sucked on it :D

no mention of South Florida blowing it today? West Virginia has won the Big East.
:( I'm trying to erase it from my memory. And we got stuck with Virginia / Miami here instead of the USF / U-Conn game.

I was able to ESPN gamecast it from here, but I missed what happened on the late 4th-and-goal play. Did they go for it or miss the FG? And disappointed that they couldn't stop UConn when they needed to to get the ball back after an apparently decent defensive performance the rest of the game (barring the 60-yard run early).

One 60-yard run play or one 90-yard kickoff return or one blown play leading to a safety from competing for a BCS bowl bid next week :mad:

Nice to know we're that competitive in the Big East, though. Maybe next year...

That's his FSU upbringing. You really need to read the FSU playbook. Florida did. :)This is unfathomable. We are bigger than them. We are stronger than them. Our RB's are averaging 9 yards per carry...


and he continues to call reverses and passes, rather than just lining up and asserting our physical dominance over them.

I hate Reggie Ball.

I hate Reggie Ball.

Really? I send him a birthday card every year.

:( I'm trying to erase it from my memory. And we got stuck with Virginia / Miami here instead of the USF / U-Conn game.

I was able to ESPN gamecast it from here, but I missed what happened on the late 4th-and-goal play. Did they go for it or miss the FG? And disappointed that they couldn't stop UConn when they needed to to get the ball back after an apparently decent defensive performance the rest of the game (barring the 60-yard run early).

One 60-yard run play or one 90-yard kickoff return or one blown play leading to a safety from competing for a BCS bowl bid next week :mad:

Nice to know we're that competitive in the Big East, though. Maybe next year...
We didnt' get the game in this area either... i just can't believe they couldn't handle UConn of all teams. Also, it's a bad result for Rutgers.

If Notre Dame loses this game, I'm going to be sweating bullets.

Really? I send him a birthday card every year.

Send one to Chan, too?

Send one to Chan, too?

Named a cat after him.

my kingdom for a wide reciever with good hands.

God bless Reggie Ball.

All I want for Christmas is a quarterback.

All I want for Christmas is a quarterback.

No, no. You have to let him start one more year.

Richt: "We have to throw and catch little bit better."

How about just letting your running backs run?

"Uh, if we just throw a catch a little bit better we'll be fine."--Mark Richt.

HEY COACH, YOUR BACKS ARE AVERAGING OVER SIX YARDS A CARRY AT HALFTIME!!! YOU DON'T *HAVE* TO "THROW AND CATCH" TO BEAT THESE GUYS!!!

"Uh, if we just throw a catch a little bit better we'll be fine."--Mark Richt.

HEY COACH, YOUR BACKS ARE AVERAGING OVER SIX YARDS A CARRY AT HALFTIME!!! YOU DON'T *HAVE* TO "THROW AND CATCH" TO BEAT THESE GUYS!!!

Lumpkin is averaging 10 a carry, and Shockley is throwing under 50%. I think we should pass more.

I've never been impressed with Reggie Ball. I can't watch the game right now, but it sounds like he isn't doing well.

As a freshman I wasn't sold on him and quickly tired of hearing announcers talk about him. Part of it may have been because I was an AJ Suggs supporter, but I honestly thought Tech's offense struggled because of the freshman quarterback.

To be honest, I haven't watched Tech at all since then.

Lumpkin is averaging 10 a carry, and Shockley is throwing under 50%. I think we should pass more.
That's the Bowden Way (TM).

Notre Dame and Stanford are tied at 14 with the second half getting under way (ND's kickoff went out of bounds).

Notre Dame and Stanford are tied at 14 with the second half getting under way (ND's kickoff went out of bounds).I suppose I should be happy I'm stuck with this game, but I'm not.

I've never been impressed with Reggie Ball. I can't watch the game right now, but it sounds like he isn't doing well.

As a freshman I wasn't sold on him and quickly tired of hearing announcers talk about him. Part of it may have been because I was an AJ Suggs supporter, but I honestly thought Tech's offense struggled because of the freshman quarterback.

To be honest, I haven't watched Tech at all since then.

He has "flashes" that keeps him in there. If GT had a solid quarterback with the talent they have around Ball, they would be impressive.

Missed the first quarter due to flight times, but I'm okay with the way things are to this point. That interception at the end was all about Bilbo never seeing the ball.

Yes, Lumpkin is 6-61 running the ball... but as a team, Georgia is still 15-50.

ND scores but misses the XP....20-14

oh yeah, gonna get me some OSU Sucks cake at work monday. Me and this guy had a bet at work, that whichever team lost, the loser had to buy a cake that said his team sucked on it :D

I couldn't find any OSU fans to bet with me. I think they all knew that the Cowboys are really bad this year.

As an aside, have you checked out ESPN.com? There's a poll on the front page with the most disappointing teams of this year in college football. Tennessee is understandably the leading vote-getter right now. But OU is second.

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I understand that this year is a down year compared to the past several for OU, but give me a break. After losing that many players to the NFL and graduation, I'd say 7-4 (should be 8-3 but we won't get into that again) is pretty solid, especially when your four losses have come to all Top 25 teams who have combined for 4 total losses.

Michigan and Tennessee, if I remember correctly, were in discussions for National Championship contention prior to the season. Although OU was ranked high, I don't know anyone who was picking them to play for the National Championship.

Anyway, that's my rant. It just made me wonder if people actually know what they're talking about.

Yes, Lumpkin is 6-61 running the ball... but as a team, Georgia is still 15-50.That's because of sacks and that STUPID reverse. Remember that sacks count against rushing yardage in CFB. I am beginning to lose confidence in Richt's ability to make adjustments.

I am beginning to lose confidence in Richt's ability to make adjustments.
It could be worse. Take Randy Sanders. Please.

Part of it may have been because I was an AJ Suggs supporter, but I honestly thought Tech's offense struggled because of the freshman quarterback.

*Cringe* Living through Suggs was a nightmare, also. Not as bad as Bell though as this has been going on almost 4 years now.

*Cringe* Living through Suggs was a nightmare, also. Not as bad as Bell though as this has been going on almost 4 years now.

You could put Bilbo back behind the center. Please?

It could be worse. Take Randy Sanders. Please.

That's actually a pretty good sign of how bad the offenses are in this state right now -- Sanders would be an upgrade of the OC performance of both teams.

You could put Bilbo back behind the center. Please?

Too late now, but he was the more talented of the two QB's IMO.

Jon, did you hear Schaeffer may go to Florida?

"Uh, if we just throw a catch a little bit better we'll be fine."--Mark Richt.

HEY COACH, YOUR BACKS ARE AVERAGING OVER SIX YARDS A CARRY AT HALFTIME!!! YOU DON'T *HAVE* TO "THROW AND CATCH" TO BEAT THESE GUYS!!!
Please tell that also to the Dolphins Offensive coach.

That's actually a pretty good sign of how bad the offenses are in this state right now -- Sanders would be an upgrade of the OC performance of both teams.That's nasty.

Taking off the GT hat for the moment... this is actually a pretty funny discussion; considering most of the Tech fans complain that Chan runs the ball far too much. ;)

I think McClendon has money on Tech.

*Cringe* Living through Suggs was a nightmare, also. Not as bad as Bell though as this has been going on almost 4 years now.
I thought AJ was serviceable at UT. He was the starter through a tough stretch as a redshirt freshman, and served up a 2-3 record IIRC. It's not like he had the easiest games on the schedule, though.

I thought he got a bum deal when they decided to start Casey Clausen the rest of the way.

I honestly think the dumbing down of our offense resulted from this move. Casey didn't know the offense very well, and it was very apparent when he had to play against tough competition. I seem to remember a lot of complaining from receivers and backs about Casey's lack of knowledge of the playbook.

Shockley should be glad he didn't get a stinkface after that 3rd down incompletion.
From the bio of Tech DL Joe Anoai

Parents are Leati and Patricia Anoai . . . Comes from a family of professional wrestlers in the WWE, including his brother ("Rosey") and cousin ("Rikishi") . . . Father ("Sika") and uncle ("Afa") wrestled as the "Wild Samoans" tag team . . . Cousin, Afa Anoai, plays football at Connecticut

I think McClendon has money on Tech.One-six needs to watch the rest of this game from the bench. Sorry, Willie. :(

Jon, did you hear Schaeffer may go to Florida?

That's what I've been hearing for several months now.

I may have to be a Florida fan, then.

And when he calls runs, he calls about half of 'em east and west. :rolleyes:

And when he calls runs, he calls about half of 'em east and west. :rolleyes:
Out of the Shotgun.

Out of the Shotgun.Don't EVEN get me started about that... :mad:

ABC really wants you to see CJ, don't they?

ABC really wants you to see CJ, don't they?
Or, where he was a second ago.

"Oh look, that's where Calvin... wait." {empty circle on the field}

What's up with the camera view from behind the lighting bank??? :confused:

ND kicks a field goal but Stanford returns the ensuing kickoff for a TD. ND leads 23-21

Or, where he was a second ago.

"Oh look, that's where Calvin... wait." {empty circle on the field}
I'm waiting for them to go to "Calvin cam," where they only show him and just tell you what's going on everywhere else.

GT has watched their film. Audible= run.

GT has watched their film. Audible= run.;)

Out of the Shotgun.I dream of Bowden. This was all the rage in the early 90's. :)

I'd give anything for the Richt offense in Tallahassee right about now. So quit yer bitchin'. ;)

This one looks to be over barring an actual defensive stand by Standford and a missed field goal for ND.

29 yard field goal is missed.......

LOL

missed it

This is the first time I have ever rooted for Walt Harris, dont let me down!

WOOO!!!!!!!

Beat ND secondary deep again!

Bummer for Notre Dame to lose this one, if they actually do...

What they said! ^^

Weird my message went ahead of the two below me after reading their messages.......

TD Stanford!

TOUCHDOWN!!

Lots of time left though

somebody please kill me.

Come on Cardinal hang on! I want to go to Tempe for New Years!!

They got to score a touchdown to win it seems like, with that stupid kicker.

I hate Notre Dame as much as the next guy, but Rutgers bowl bid may be on the line here. Please Irish, Please.

Stanford is employing the swiss cheese defense

ND might end up with over 600 yards of offense and lose. Unbelievable.

I think Stanford is planning on letting them score easily, so they can get the ball back with some time on the clock.

Well, excuse me. they will have over 600 yards of offense. And probably will eke out a W.

Stanford is employing the swiss cheese defenseI hear it's in vogue. Fresno State is very proficient at using it!

gorgeous pass

EDIT: re: uga takes 14-7 lead over tech

One-six needs to watch the rest of this game from the bench. Sorry, Willie. :(

You were right ;)

You were right ;)Amazing. Three drops and the boneheaded play of the year on the 2nd half opening kickoff. Redemption. Suh-weet!!!!

Geez, that was quick.

If Stanford can hurry up and score, ND has a shot at 700 yards!

great, great playcall on the 2 point conversion.

Someone tell the ND band to come on the field during the kickoff

LOL

Ball will throw a pick

You're psychic!

TJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Ball will throw a pickLOL! On the money!

I love Reggie Ball!!

Ball will throw a pick
what?

Ball will throw a pick

hahahaha

goddamnit

thank you Notre Dame.

4th and 38 from their own 10 with 4 seconds left. Um, game over?

LOL! On the money!

Hard not to predict that one really.

That was one ugly win. But it is still a win. :)

I hope Notre Dame gets to match up against Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Me thinks they will be in for a rude awakening. I remember last time that ND made a BCS bid in which they shouldn't have, Oregon State put a hurting on them.

That was one ugly win. But it is still a win. :)

Now beat LSU next week!

Now beat LSU next week!

Love to. What's the weather prediction in hell next weekend? Snow hopefully.

Love to. What's the weather prediction in hell next weekend? Snow hopefully.

So that is a yes? :confused:

Now beat LSU next week!

Next week might just make this one look like an offensive explosion.

I hope Notre Dame gets to match up against Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Me thinks they will be in for a rude awakening. I remember last time that ND made a BCS bid in which they shouldn't have, Oregon State put a hurting on them. Yeah, it's not as if Notre Dame has previously played well against a good team like say..... USC?

We played that game like Tucker in the frikkin IHOF.

More first downs, better on third down, more total yards, significant edge in time of possession... they made the right call with Flowers as POG, the punt returns were absolutely the edge in this game.

I'd give anything for the Richt offense in Tallahassee right about now. So quit yer bitchin'. ;)

At least you have a shot at the league championship and the BCS bid so quit yer bitchin ;)

Yeah, it's not as if Notre Dame has previously played well against a good team like say..... USC?

How long can ND fans hold on to that? Tonight they barely beat a team that lost to a D-1aa team. ND has beaten 3 teams this year with winning records, Michigan, Navy, and BYU. Michigan had a 7 win season and those other two are not Top 25 teams. Fresno State took USC to the ropes last week IN LA, Arizona State did the same earlier in the year. Arizona State struggled to become bowl eligible and Fresno just got beat by Nevada. ND is a legit Top 12 team but to pick them over Ohio State, Auburn, and maybe even Oregon is a stretch. But they are Notre Dame and they bring the fans. That's what the bowls want to see.

All the Notre Dame haters can come out now. I don't see how anyone can say Notre Dame doesn't desrve a BCS bid. They lost to Mich St. in overtime after a come from behind lead and almost beat USC. 9-2. They deserve it as much as West Virginia. I didn't hear people ripping Texas after the A&M game the other day. Oh, well I will take the Win:)

I hope Notre Dame gets to match up against Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Me thinks they will be in for a rude awakening. I remember last time that ND made a BCS bid in which they shouldn't have, Oregon State put a hurting on them.

Think the Fiesta will really take OSU for the 3rd time in 4 years? I sure hope so, OSU going to a BCS game bumps the Gophers up a bowl spot in the big 10.

Easy... Oregon deserves it over Notre Dame. Oregon just lost to USC. Notre Dame lost to USC and Michigan State.

I didn't hear people ripping Texas after the A&M game the other day.

Usually a two or more score margin of victory doesn't bring on ripping. Another reason you didn't hear any ripping was the same reason you didn't hear USC get ripped on last weekend for only beating Fresno State by 8 - neither team has lost a game this season.

How long can ND fans hold on to that? Tonight they barely beat a team that lost to a D-1aa team.That's some nice selective memory - Stanford also beat Arizona and Arizona State, and barely lost to UCLA. Good Stanford showed up in this game, aided and abetted by the trouble in the kicking game.

I'm sitting here at the airport in Frankfurt waiting for my flight back to DFW. I'm checking all of the scores. I'm worried about JeeberD. Has anyone heard from him since the SMU-UTEP game went final? :D

That's some nice selective memory - Stanford also beat Arizona and Arizona State, and barely lost to UCLA. Good Stanford showed up in this game, aided and abetted by the trouble in the kicking game.

Name me a Top 25 team that Arizona, ASU, UCLA, or Stanford beat this year? You can count UCLA since Arizona beat them but name another. Arizona has 3 wins this year, Arizona State has 6, and UCLA has 9 wins, none against teams ranked in the Top 25 as of now.

It would be hilarious if an 8-4 Florida State goes to the BCS, while 10-2 Virginia Tech and 9-2 Miami go to other bowls. Of course, Florida State looked so bad today I doubt they're much of a match for Virginia Tech.

Things could get quite complicated if UCLA beats USC next week. USC still gets the automatic BCS bid, but UCLA would have made quite a case for an At-Large. Different problem but same result if Colorado somehow beats Texas.

Otherwise, I'd give the two At-Large bids to Ohio State and Miami, rewarding the two conferences that had the best seasons overall. Oregon and Notre Dame are close behind.

Otherwise, I'd give the two At-Large bids to Ohio State and Miami, rewarding the two conferences that had the best seasons overall. Oregon and Notre Dame are close behind.

I agree with you in taking Ohio State but I think Auburn has been playing some really good ball lately and would be a team no one would want to be matched up with right now. I'd take Ohio State and Auburn.

The SEC is weak this year, no way I give the extra bid to Auburn. I say Oregon or even Notre Dame over Miami. The ACC is good, but not great this year...you don't lose to Georgia Tech in the end of the season to lose your division and expect to get an at-large.

Just got home. Damn. Stanford played their hearts out with a bowl bid on the line. Notre Dame is just too good this year. After Stanford scored, my dad told me "That kicker for ND may have just made a $14 million shank"

At least you have a shot at the league championship and the BCS bid so quit yer bitchin ;)
Uh, we have a shot at completely embarrassing ourselves on national TV for the second time in 2 weeks, not to mention lose 4 straight games. I think I'd rather see the team call in sick than play that game.

I'm sitting here at the airport in Frankfurt waiting for my flight back to DFW. I'm checking all of the scores. I'm worried about JeeberD. Has anyone heard from him since the SMU-UTEP game went final? :D


Apparently Jordan Palmer wanted to go to Smu.. 7 turnovers is unforgiveable.. bet Mike Price was looking up strip clubs in the yellow pages after this one ;)

Apparently Jordan Palmer wanted to go to Smu.. 7 turnovers is unforgiveable.. bet Mike Price was looking up strip clubs in the yellow pages after this one ;)

I've heard that there is a place or two like that in Dallas... :D

I hate Notre Dame as much as the next guy, but Rutgers bowl bid may be on the line here. Please Irish, Please.

I know its after the fact and a moot point anyway, but from what the Insight guys were saying both during after the game, it seemed like Rutgers was their pick no matter what ND did. I guess they didn't have faith in Louisville bringing much to Phoenix?

Wow. Bobby Bowden needs to be fired. I have been saying that for a long time but damn man yesterday was very depressing. Bowden is a racist that is the only thing that makes sense about leaving Rix Jr. out there. Fuck Bobby Bowden and his entire offensive staff.

I know its after the fact and a moot point anyway, but from what the Insight guys were saying both during after the game, it seemed like Rutgers was their pick no matter what ND did. I guess they didn't have faith in Louisville bringing much to Phoenix? Sounds like it, but it's hard to tell if those guys were just assuming a West Virginia Conference title and Notre Dame win. Because i figure this is how it plays out now:

BCS = West Virginia
BCS = Notre Dame
Gator Bowl = Louisville
Insight Bowl = Rutgers
Meinieke Bowl = South Florida


Now if Connecticut can beat Louisville next week it'll be very interesting. It means we have more teams than bowl bids, and it might possibly make the Gator Bowl think twice, althouh South Florida would really be their only other option.

Sounds like it, but it's hard to tell if those guys were just assuming a West Virginia Conference title and Notre Dame win. Because i figure this is how it plays out now:

BCS = West Virginia
BCS = Notre Dame
Gator Bowl = Louisville
Insight Bowl = Rutgers
Meinieke Bowl = South Florida


Now if Connecticut can beat Louisville next week it'll be very interesting. It means we have more teams than bowl bids, and it might possibly make the Gator Bowl think twice, althouh South Florida would really be their only other option.

Yeah, but if Ohio State goes to the BCS, than the Motor City Bowl becomes open and the Big East has first chance to fill that spot.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-tennesseecoachingchanges&prov=ap&type=lgns

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer fired offensive assistants Jimmy Ray Stephens and Pat Washington on Sunday, following the Volunteers' first losing season since 1988.

Stephens, 51, was the offensive line coach and had been at Tennessee for three years. Washington, 42, was wide receivers coach and had been with the program for 10 years.

"I appreciate everything Jimmy Ray and Pat have done for Tennessee over the years," Fulmer said in a statement. "This was a difficult decision to make, but I feel it is in the best interest for the future of our football program."

I assume that was a "you or them" situation.

I've expected a "you and them", actually.

Wow. Bobby Bowden needs to be fired. I have been saying that for a long time but damn man yesterday was very depressing. Bowden is a racist that is the only thing that makes sense about leaving Rix Jr. out there. Fuck Bobby Bowden and his entire offensive staff.Lee wasn't out there because he has practiced terribly and followed it up with bad performances when he was given a chance. Bowden probably won't retire, but I find it hard to believe, if for no other reason than just recruiting, that Jeff Bowden will return.

The problem for Bobby is that he's at a point where he really only needs (and wants) to be the general overlooking the assistants actually running the team, but he's lost too many Richt's and Amato's - and replaced them with crap - to allow him to do that and maintain a competitive team. What's happening to Bobby seems to be the opposite of what happened with Paterno - with Joe Pa, it seemed like he just wasn't able to recruit good enough players, but the team performed up to their talent. With FSU, we still have the talent, but the team is WAY underperforming. I think Joe Pa had the easier task to fix his problems. Bobby's in big trouble.

We'll see how serious he was aboout his "if we start losing 4, 5, 6 games a year, I'll retire" statements. I think he really wants to hang on long enough to outlast Paterno, and with Joe Pa winning big this year, that makes Bowden's decision that much more difficult. Without wholesale changes - and I'm including on the defensive side - FSU is going down. They might even need to bring in Bowden's replacement as offensive coordinator or something and let him have the team in a couple of years. that way they get someone competent to bring the offense back to life. What a mess.

Lee wasn't out there because he has practiced terribly and followed it up with bad performances when he was given a chance. Bowden probably won't retire, but I find it hard to believe, if for no other reason than just recruiting, that Jeff Bowden will return.

The problem for Bobby is that he's at a point where he really only needs (and wants) to be the general overlooking the assistants actually running the team, but he's lost too many Richt's and Amato's - and replaced them with crap - to allow him to do that and maintain a competitive team. What's happening to Bobby seems to be the opposite of what happened with Paterno - with Joe Pa, it seemed like he just wasn't able to recruit good enough players, but the team performed up to their talent. With FSU, we still have the talent, but the team is WAY underperforming. I think Joe Pa had the easier task to fix his problems. Bobby's in big trouble.

We'll see how serious he was aboout his "if we start losing 4, 5, 6 games a year, I'll retire" statements. I think he really wants to hang on long enough to outlast Paterno, and with Joe Pa winning big this year, that makes Bowden's decision that much more difficult. Without wholesale changes - and I'm including on the defensive side - FSU is going down. They might even need to bring in Bowden's replacement as offensive coordinator or something and let him have the team in a couple of years. that way they get someone competent to bring the offense back to life. What a mess.

I thought Kevin Steele was the replacement for Bobby? As far as shaking up the staff, I think Jeff Bowden is going to have to take one for the team and resign. I don't see Bobby firing him.

There seems to be a lot of similarities between what FSU is going through this year and what PSU went through the past few years. In both cases the coaches sons are taking the brunt of the heat. Jay Paterno is the QB coach and was the Recruiting Coordinator up until the early part of 2004. Jay took a lot of flack for not developing the QBs and for the downfall of Penn State's recruiting. There were a lot of alumni calling for Joe's head and even more calling for Jay's head at the end of last season. They thought that the only reason Joe was keeping his son around was because Joe wanted him to succeed him when he retires.

In my opinion I do not think that will happen. I think Tom Bradley will take over for Joe whenever he retires. I also believe that the hire of Galen Hall as Offensive Coordinator was a good one. Joe finally gave him full reign of the offense. It was a clusterfuck last year as Galen got to call the running plays and Jay got to call the passing plays. But who decided whether it was a pass or run? That lead to a ton of delay of game penalties and a lot of confusion on the sidelines.

I think Florida State will be okay. They are having one bad season. I think that Bobby and his staff will look back at the season and see what they did right and wrong during the course of the year and fix it.

I'm sitting here at the airport in Frankfurt waiting for my flight back to DFW. I'm checking all of the scores. I'm worried about JeeberD. Has anyone heard from him since the SMU-UTEP game went final? :D

It wasn't a fun game to attend. Jordan Palmer turned the ball over left and right, partially because the offensive line couldn't block shit. Huzzah, we're gonna go to a third rate bowl game now...
:rolleyes:

I think Florida State will be okay. They are having one bad season. I think that Bobby and his staff will look back at the season and see what they did right and wrong during the course of the year and fix it.
Are you nuts? One bad season? Chris Rix lost more as a starting QB than all of FSU's starting QBs for the 15 years before him. And now that we don't have Rix to blame Jeff Bowden's vanilla play calling on, we're having an even worse season.

The rumor around here is that Kevin Steele will be the replacement, but I just don't understand that. It could be worse - it could be Mickey Guthridge - but I'm not sure I understand why the LB's coach is automatically the perfect fit, years in advance, to take over.

My brother, who's a UF alum, said last night, and I agree with him, that Spurrier leaving when he did was a blessing in disguise. Now they don't have to worry about replacing a declining legend and all that comes with that problem.

I also don't see Bobby firing his son, especially given these comments:

"Are you more frustrated over losing to Florida or the fact that people don't recognize the execution problems that led to a loss like that?

Bowden: It irritates me that as soon as we lose a ballgame, 'Let's fire Jeff Bowden' That is really cowardly to me. We didn't play good in any area. We played better in some than others. But that has happened two dadgum times. I go back and look at the film to see where this bad play-calling is coming from. I see that as long as we block our man, our plays are really going good. When we don't, then you've got a bad play, but that has nothing to do with the way the play was called. Yeah, I'm irritated over that. I think people are getting personal. They better be glad that I'd like to keep this job."

Denial. I suppose Jimmy Johnson thought there was nothing wrong with the playcalling the year the Dolphins played the Patriots in the playoffs and the Pats LBs were calling out the plays as Marino audibled. That's about what the UF game looked like.
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Yeah, the most "competent" bowl projections I see out there have Kansas playing UTEP in Fort Worth (I love seeing nonsense like KU going to a bowl that would choose 5th among Big XII teams despite it being pretty obvious that we'll be 8th out of 8 chosen and thus Fort Worth bowling).

SI

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2240847
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee football coach Phillip Fulmer's acknowledgment that the 2005 season was "unacceptable" has been put in writing to the fans.

Fulmer wrote a 300-word letter that was e-mailed Tuesday to about 38,000 season ticket holders and other fans signed up to receive periodic newsletters from the athletic department through its Web site.

"This year was a disappointing season for everyone in the Tennessee family," wrote Fulmer, echoing what he's been saying on the radio and television and in speeches. "We started this season with great expectations and failed to live up to those expectations.

"I assure you that no one is happy about our season -- especially me, and I know that our fans deserve better than what we produced this year."

The letter was gleaned from 10 pages of notes from a speech Fulmer gave Monday to the Knoxville Quarterback Club. That speech also expressed his concern over finishing 5-6, the first losing record and lack of a bowl bid since 1988.

"Coach Fulmer was trying to find a way to communicate to fans," athletic department spokeswoman Tiffany Carpenter said Tuesday.

Fulmer wrote that he is taking an audit of the program.

"We grossly underachieved offensively, and special teams were erratic at best," he said. "No stone will be left unturned and no question left unanswered as to what went wrong."

On Monday, Fulmer took one step in what he hopes will turn around the program by introducing David Cutcliffe as offensive coordinator to replace Randy Sanders. Cutcliffe was on Tennessee's staff with Fulmer for 17 years and was offensive coordinator from 1993-98 before leaving to be head coach at Mississippi. He was fired at the end of last season.

Fulmer also fired two assistants, receivers coach Pat Washington and offensive line coach Jimmy Ray Stephens. Sanders resigned on Oct. 31.

Yeah, the most "competent" bowl projections I see out there have Kansas playing UTEP in Fort Worth (I love seeing nonsense like KU going to a bowl that would choose 5th among Big XII teams despite it being pretty obvious that we'll be 8th out of 8 chosen and thus Fort Worth bowling).

SI
I've also seen some projections with Univ of Houston as the Hawaii Bowl picks UTEP.

SI

UTEP doesn't want to go to Hawaii, Fort Worth would be a much better fit for us. We would bring a huge crowd there but Hawaii would be to expensive for the UTEP fan base. El Paso ain't exactly a wealthy town...

With Hawaii with a losing record, I think "sparse crowd" will be a mild understatement at the Hawaii Bowl this year.

If UConn can beat Louisville on saturday, they will go the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

If UConn can beat Louisville on saturday, they will go the Meineke Car Care Bowl.
so where's South Florida headed?

1. that mark richt/fsu bullshit offense isn't so great when you aren't 6 deep in nfl wr's (they should split chris wienke's heisman 4 wyas and give it to his starting recievers that year). i'll never get why richt gets such a free pass as being an offensive genius, when its the uga defense that wins games for them

2. it's astounding to me that mack brown has proven to be a top 2 or 3 coach in the country for the long term health of a program. even at his worst he was winning 9, and now that he pulled his head out of his ass about assistants, texas is where it could have been 3-4 years ago. bob stoops is a terrible talent evaluator and gets his ass handed to him on the recruiting trail by a guy he abused for half a decade, and has maybe the worst oc in the country. carroll is up there, beamer goes in cycles, miami is fading and needs to get ken dorsey's ol back, nobody else even qualifies

UTEP doesn't want to go to Hawaii, Fort Worth would be a much better fit for us. We would bring a huge crowd there but Hawaii would be to expensive for the UTEP fan base. El Paso ain't exactly a wealthy town...

Well shit, it appears that UTEP is headed to the GMAC Bowl in freakin' Mobile, Alabama to play freakin' Toledo...
:mad:

Bowl brings Price back to Alabama
Saturday, December 03, 2005
By RANDY KENNEDY
Sports Editor
In its seven-year history, the GMAC Bowl has previously extended an invitation to a future University of Alabama head coach. Now, a former Tide head coach is apparently headed to Mobile.

Texas-El Paso, led by former Alabama coach Mike Price, is expected to receive the bowl invitation today, according to sources close to the selection process.

The Dec. 21 game at Ladd-Peebles Stadium will mark Price's first official return to the Gulf Coast since an ill-fated night out in Pensacola cost him his job at Alabama before he ever coached a game.

At Alabama, Price replaced Dennis Franchione, whose last team at TCU earned a trip to the Mobile bowl. After accepting the Alabama job, Franchione did not coach TCU in the bowl game.

Price and the Miners (8-3) will face the Toledo Rockets (8-3), who accepted a GMAC Bowl bid last week.

Before Price arrived in El Paso, the Miners had never been ranked in The Associated Press poll. That changed last season, when UTEP entered the polls for the first time. It repeated the accomplishment this season, checking in at No. 24 after racing to an 8-1 start. UTEP has since lost to UAB and SMU to finish the regular season.

One of the primary reasons for UTEP's success is junior quarterback Jordan Palmer, the brother of Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. Jordan Palmer ranked ninth nationally with an average of 302 total yards per game, and holds UTEP career records for passing yards (7,326), touchdown passes (61), completions (555), attempts (965) and total yards (7,397).

The GMAC Bowl is expected to have one of the most compelling quarterback matchups of the bowl season. Toledo is led by record-setting quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, who is the school career leader in passing yards and completions. He also has 80 career touchdown passes.

Palmer and Gradkowski will be trying to join an impressive list of quarterbacks who have led their teams to a GMAC Bowl win, including Marshall's Byron Leftwich, Miami of Ohio's Ben Roethlisberger, Bowling Green's Omar Jacobs and Southern Miss' Jeff Kelly.

Tickets are on sale for the game and can be purchased by calling the GMAC Bowl office at 251-635-0011 or by contacting Springdale Travel, located at 1087 Downtowner Blvd., at 251-476-5095.

Tickets cost $15 in the end zones and $45 along the sidelines.

The game will kick off at 7 p.m. Dec. 21 and be nationally televised on ESPN.

Well shit, it appears that UTEP is headed to the GMAC Bowl in freakin' Mobile, Alabama to play freakin' Toledo...
:mad:

LOL :D

Well, if you didn't freakin' lose to freakin' teams you shouldn't have, you wouldn't be going to freakin' Mobile, now would you? :p ;)

Tell me about it...

*sigh*