Just wondering what the 3 of you thought about Dick Jauron's status for next year. I honestly want to bring him back next year and feel that if they do we are more than capable of making the playoffs. We started off horrible but we were devesated by injuries, most of our O-line did not even play in the first 3 games. However now with our players returning we have gone on a little run and are beating top tier teams.

One thing I have noticed is the players have certainly not quit on Dick yet, which is usually a tell-tale sign when a coach needs to go. If you had told Bears fans, or even football fans that the Bears would finish either 7-9 or 8-8, I think the majority of people would be a bit surprised.

As much as I want him back, if he even tries to suggest Shoop staying he can go. I've actually stopped watching most of the Bears games because of the style of play Shoop uses in our offense.

I don't know, maybe I just have a soft spot for Jauron but I've always thought he was a solid coach. I say give him another year.

I'm all for having him back without Shoop. I would actually be really disappointed if he were fired. I think he's a good coach and puts a motivated football team on the field each week despite all the rumors or him being fired, last years disaster, and the horrible start. You can't ask for much more than that.

He's a good coach with an eye for talent, it seems. I just don't think he's very good at hiring an offensive coordinator. Although Crowton was a step up from Shoop, it was a tiny one.

I'm not saying this as a smartass (being a Packer fan) but i really think the Bears should keep him, i think he's a good coach and does pretty good with not a whole lot. He has also done really well bringing along all those young players.

If he is fired, i sure hope someone takes a chance on giving him another shot as a head coach in the next year or two.

The way this team was ill prepared to start the season is enough for me. What was the score of that travesty? 49-7?? Please! How long did they have to prepare for that game? This is year five of the Dick Jauron experiment, and it is a failure. I expect success and in year 5 of a coaching staff, 8-8 is not acceptable(that's if they beat K.C.).
Like I said, this is year 5 and the team shouldn't be playing to save their coaches job anyway, if they have to do that, it's already too late. are professionals. As far as the young players go, the only reason they're playing is because of injury, not because the coaching staff identified their talent (remember the only reason Urlacher was put at MLB was Barry Minter's injury).
I do not trust the Bears ownership (Mike McCasky) to be able to find a decent coach, Jerry Angelo should be allowed to get his own coach in here, as Jauron was not his hire. The question remains will ownership let him choose his guy?If they don't I have a feeling he will be gone. Jauron and Angelo both have one year on their contracts left, and it is a guarantee one of them is either fired/leaving next week. Who it is depends on ownership. My Guess is Jauron will stay, and that is a shame. I guess my overall point is that this is year 5 and 7-9 or 8-8 is not acceptable.

I wonder if the Tuna would make Kordell into a decent QB?

I think Jauron has been been sabotaged over and over again by Angelo.

He's made some of the worst decisions in the league and Jauron gets to take the fall for them. I'll see if I can put myself in Angelo's mentality for a few minutes:

I have a talented middle linebacker who is great at getting to the ball carrier and has problems shedding blocks. Hey, lets get rid of our best DT and leave the job open to two young DT's who will go through growing pains. BRILLIANT

Our offensive line is one of the worst in the NFL. Lets see, who should we bring in to help the situation out? Lets add, hmmm. . . NOBODY!!! Nah, just kidding Dick, I'll give you this 7th round G from Pitt, I'm sure he'll fix our problems there. BRILLIANT.

OK, so the team sucks. We have a new QB who is as dumb as a brick wall and is unfamiliar with our system and major problems with at least 5 other positions on the field. I know, now I'll promise a PLAYOFF appearence for our fans.

What, our middle linebacker is now struggling? We still can't run the ball? We aren't making the playoffs? Bye-Bye Mr. J. If only you could have coached the crap I gave you. . .

I'm not sure what Angelo has proven here that has earned him the oppertunity to sign his own coach. He makes moves which on paper suggest he is preparing for future seasons but then blurts out that he plans on the Bears making the playoffs this season. I just do not get him. It wasn't Jauron who forgot to check the box in order to recieve compensation for losing Colvin. I mean that's just an inexcusable mistake.

If you wanted to trade Washington, you should have done so earlier so that you can find a fat ass to take his place. Instead we traded him, and let two kids try to take his spot in the line and now Urlacher is not near the player he has been the past couple seasons. We have a solid young RB in Anthony Thomas and Angelo tells the media during the offseason that he does not have confidence in him. Why bother saying something like that to the media? I am glad Thomas is having the solid year that he is, if anything just to help prove that Angelo really does not know what he's talking about.

BTW, I don't know for sure but I heard that the Tampa Bay people had no problems with Angelo leaving their oganization. They apparently did not think Angelo was a loss which I find dissapointing since the Bears were so eager to hire him.

Pinging Bears fans? Bears fans? They still make those?

Okay this is a sore point with me so if i offend anyone i apologize.

1. We are winning now with a different batch of young players who should probably have been playing earlier. Lance Briggs is a perfect example any moron could have seen in the preseason he should have started the first game but instead we start Bryan Knight.

2. Azumah makes the Pro Bowl as a kick returner yet the last couple of years we have used Leon Johnson because he was reliable. We no have RW Mcquarter returning punts and he has done a great job.

3. A Train should have gotten the ball much more early on but no we either ignore him or use someone else.

4. As far as the players not giving up this is a bunch of crap. These guys are paid millions of dollars to play a game i dont think a coach helps keep these guys from giving up.

5. We are giving him credit for hanging in there yet who do we blame for the early season problems.

6. He continues to support Shoop who is totally worthless. The fact that Jauron has kept him around just confirms he is not only a terrible judge of talent but also a terrible judge of coordinators.

I will admit i am not a fan of Angelo either. If it were up to me i would clean house. The core problem with the team is that the McCaskeys own the team, until this changes we wont go anywhere. Chicago is a first class franchise and should be treated as such. We deserve a coach on the level of Bill Parcels.

I appreciate and respect you opinion Neuqua but i say fire his ass.

As a Bear fan I want to see Jauron gone as well. As was said before the guy simply cannot evaluate talent. He has had 5 years to prove himself. Only one winning season in those five. And in that year, with a bye and home field advantage in the first round, the bears got their asses kicked.

I can only hope that Kansas City beats the ever loving crap out of us tomorrow to bring people back to reality that the bears are a mediocre team in desperate need of new direction.

Also, as for Angelo being a bad GM...He drafted Charles Tillman, Lance Briggs and Rex Grossman last year and all are doing very well.

Originally posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
Also, as for Angelo being a bad GM...He drafted Charles Tillman, Lance Briggs and Rex Grossman last year and all are doing very well.

You forgot Justin Gage.. Brock Forsey didnt do all that bad either, although he did go against weak teams..

I have got nothing against Jauron really. I have a problem with Shoop more than anyone else. This guy is horrible.. It took him how long to figure out that WR screens arent going to get us 10 yards when we need them? How about we run a WR reverse while doing a 2 minute drill?

Jauron and Blache can come back, but we gotta get rid of shoop..

-Aes-

Heh. Me and Aes had a good conversation about this. Add to the above, my in-depth analysis of Da Bears.

Disclaimer: I didn't have any night time Thera-Flu left, so I'm wired and drugged on the non-drowsy Thera-Flu. If I make zero sense (as usual)...deal with it.

Anyway, breakdown of the team, from personnel to staff.

QB: Grossman looks good. Really good. You don't often find rookies who can throw that well, that consistantly. I think Chicago's got someone special here. For the first time since McMahon, the Bears have themselves a QB.

RB: A-Train is what I call 'good enough'. The Trib seems to think that the Bears may benefit from a 1st round RB pick, but I do not believe it necessary. I am of the personal opinion that the running game starts and stops with the O-Line, and the guy running the ball need only be acceptable (See: Denver Broncos a few years back.)

WR: White's gone next year. Yay. They've got some serious talent here, and a QB who can get them the damn ball. Scary combination.

O-Line: Need one. Aside from Kreutz, I'd take a good long look at every single guy on the line. Most of the other guys are servicable, but I think this is a big area for improvement.

D-Line: DE's are good enough. Can't complain much about a trio of Daniels, Brown, and Haynes. DT's...this is where the Bears need to be spending that 1st round pick. An uberstud defensive tackle, preferably one who weighs about 2 tons. Stuff a side of beef on that line, and you free up your impressive LB's to do scary shit.

LB: See above, and then realize how brutal Urlacher/Holdman/Briggs can be if they had a bigass D-Line to bottleneck the line.

DB: Brown Good. Tillman Good. Find me a strong safety and a second CB. The bears would do well to sign a top safety, and look to the draft for a new CB (or vice versa). I'm just not sold on McQuarters, Azumah, Green, or Grey.

And now, of course...the staff.

Jauron: Honestly, I'm 50/50. I'd personally like to see a coach with a bit more fire, a bit more personality out there. That, and I'm just not sold on his ability to prepare his team for games, or get through a decent training camp (something he is notorious for being light with). He does seem to have the support of the players, which is of course, a HUGE bonus for him. The fact of the matter is, however, one winning season (based largely on luck, we all know it) in 5 years is not what I call an impressive track record.

Shoop: Burn in hell, loser. Is there ANYONE in Chicago, or the entire football watching world, who thinks this guy is a competant OC?

Blache: He'll do. My only big complaint against him is his total unwillingness to play rookies, which flat out sucks. But, he does an acceptable job overall.

Angelo: He proved himself with this draft. I've questioned some of his moves, and I'm not terribly pleased with some of the players he's awarded long term contracts/some of the people he's released, but the man IS a good judge of young talent.

In short. I think it'd almost be funny for the Bears to announce they were retaining Shoop for another season. I seriously think Chicago would march on the new Soldier Field and burn it to the ground.

I'm not a big Bears fan, but I thought I would chime in here with my thoughts.....

Chi-town sucks in every sport right now.

Thank you. :)

The Chicago Fire were in the MLS Cup this year.

:cool:

Originally posted by Neuqua
The Chicago Fire were in the MLS Cup this year.

:cool:


I am just wondering if you wear your skirt out in public as well?

I'd personally get rid of Shoop for sure. One thing's for certain - I haven't honestly kept too up to date on the team's running game...but is it only me - or does it seem like Anthony Thomas isn't their starting running back?

Not sure if it's because of injuries or what not...but I'd like to see more stability at that position. I, at this hour, can't seem to remember who the other back is...I think, Adrian Peterson? I seem to hear much more about him than A-Train. :confused:

I know it would never happen, and if it did it would end in total disaster. But wouldn't it just be awesome if they brought back Ditka and Buddy Ryan for one more go at it.

Originally posted by Marmel
I'm not a big Bears fan, but I thought I would chime in here with my thoughts.....

Chi-town sucks in every sport right now.

Thank you. :)

Obviously you don't understand Chicago sports at all. Allow me to explain, heathen.

All Chicago teams were, at one point, Really Good. We, the Chicago Sports Fans, remember our golden days, and spend our seasons yearning, game after game, for a glimpse of those glory days come back to us. We get our hopes up with every new signing, in the futile thought that maybe this guy will be the key. When that fails, and our seasons crumble, we look to next season, bringing our hope forth again.

And now you have gained enlightenment. :)

Another question for bears fans.

If Jauron goes, who replaces him?

I know Nick Saban has been rumored, but from what I'm hearing, he isn't going anywhere and is about to sign a HUGE contract with LSU. Denny Green? I really can't picture him in Chicago after all those years on the Minnesota sideline. There isn't any coaches set to be fired that would be much of an upgrade over Jauron, IMO. I guess if I had to pick someone, I would go with Lovie Smith in St. Louis. The guy really seems to be a good, detail oriented coach and would seem to be a good fit for they City.

However it goes, I think for 1st time ever possibly, fans will more intereseted in who the new Offensive Coordinator is, instead of the new Head Coach.

An interesting quote from Angelo on his justification for firing Jauron.

"We went into the season believing this was a playoff team," Angelo said. "We just weren't as consistent as we needed to be."

It will be interesting to see who the Bears end up with now that there are already 2 other openings and at least 1 more (New York) to have an opening soon.

Just a thought, what about Dave McGinnis coming to Chicago? I know we botched his signing last time around but does anyone know if one side is particulary upset with the other? He's just about the only guy I can see the McKaskeys going after whom I could cope with.

McGinnis seemed to have some serious issues with Bears mangement after the disaster they had trying to sign him a few years ago. I have no idea whether or not he's over it yet or not though.

How about another go around with Wanny?

Please...?


Pretty please...?


With sugar on top...?



Alright! I'm begging you here! TAKE HIM BACK!

Originally posted by Kodos
How about another go around with Wanny?

Please...?

Pretty please...?

With sugar on top...?

Alright! I'm begging you here! TAKE HIM BACK!

Request. Denied.

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
WR: White's gone next year. Yay. They've got some serious talent here, and a QB who can get them the damn ball. Scary combination.

That seems a little bit overstated to me.

Mike Singletary is a coach over at Baltimore now. Maybe they can sign him to be the head coach and he can teach Urlacher how not to be a huge p*ssy

Originally posted by QuikSand
That seems a little bit overstated to me.

Wide Recievers is one of the Bears stronger offensive areas. Booker, Gage, and Terrell are all pretty big guys who can get high up to get the ball.. Booker is one of the more consistant recievers in the game. Gage is a promising rookie whos shown some explosiveness. And Terrell just needs someone to get the ball to him without overthrowing him.. so many times Kordell threw it about 5 feet out of his reach..

Grossman looks good. He should be able to get the ball to them if our OC lets him throw more than just 3-5 yard passes every down.

-Aes-

I agree that the Bears have one of the most talented, and under utilized, reciever units in the league. Terrell is a hell of a talent that hasn't had opportunities downfield, Booker is legit #1 reciever, and the combo of a Gage and Wade shows promise.

Originally posted by Aesyrqwe
You forgot Justin Gage..

I think of this guy, and I think about Missouri basketball, not Missouri football.

That's kinda sad, really.