Dexter Jackson is a great pickup for the Bengals. This is the guy they have targeted from the beginning and they paid him a lot less than Archuleta and Chavous got. He covers and plays the run the way Marvin wants from his safeties. We got an under-30 Super Bowl MVP in a position of need.

Now I hope we can get Sam Adams to fill our other big hole.

Sam Adams plays QB?

Seriously, though, i think Jackson is a pretty good value signing.

Heck, the 49ers ought to offer Millen a 4th for Charles Rogers- his base salaries are fairly low, and it seems likely that the Lions have given up on him.

Heck, the 49ers ought to offer Millen a 4th for Charles Rogers- his base salaries are fairly low, and it seems likely that the Lions have given up on him.

That's kind of why I asked if he might get traded, but I don't think they'd trade for him anyways. They seem to want to see what Battle, Hamilton and Maxwell can do. Woods is a bust at this point, IMO.

That's kind of why I asked if he might get traded, but I don't think they'd trade for him anyways. They seem to want to see what Battle, Hamilton and Maxwell can do. Woods is a bust at this point, IMO.

I really like what the Niners just did. Bryant is a big upgrade over Lloyd. Lloyd is good for the spectacular catch, but other than that his game is limited. He has a hard time getting off the line and he is not a possession receiver either.

Battle played well last season before he got hurt and Hamilton didn't play all season. Woods is garbage and I can't wait for him to get cut.

I really like what the Niners just did. Bryant is a big upgrade over Lloyd. Lloyd is good for the spectacular catch, but other than that his game is limited. He has a hard time getting off the line and he is not a possession receiver either.

Battle played well last season before he got hurt and Hamilton didn't play all season. Woods is garbage and I can't wait for him to get cut.

We've talked about this before in other threads, but I still can't comprehend how Woods is such a big bust. I thought at best he would be a top 5 WR (and quickly), and at worst, would be a guy you could count on for 60 catches a year. I don't think I've ever been more wrong about any player in any sport.

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I really like what the Niners just did. Bryant is a big upgrade over Lloyd. Lloyd is good for the spectacular catch, but other than that his game is limited. He has a hard time getting off the line and he is not a possession receiver either.

Battle played well last season before he got hurt and Hamilton didn't play all season. Woods is garbage and I can't wait for him to get cut.

Oh, I love what they did as well, especially when you look at what Randle El got. Battle I think was the most consistent receiver on the team last year, he just couldn't stay healthy. I have no idea what to expect out of Hamilton or Maxwell, and Woods won't amount to anything, it seems, which surprises me, too. I though he'd be a solid, dependable WR. Not so much.

I like the Bryant signing as well. The money seems reasonable. Lloyd was a headache in the lockroom and tough to coach. I hope he bombs with the red4skins.

I'm really interested in seeing what route they go with the 6th pick. Seeing as this draft is perhaps deepest at LB, I would rather not select Hawk if he's there. Mario Williams or Vernon Davis are the two guys I want the most, but who knows if Mario will be there. I've heard Nolan loves Huff, but that might be a little too early for him. If they trade down, I'd hope it's just a few spots so we can snag one of those guys. Should be interesting to see how everything shakes out though, especially if NO lands Brees.

Redskins and DE Andre Carter have agreed on a six-year, $30 million contract.
It's an almost identical deal to Adam Archuleta's. Both players will help, but the Redskins massively overpaid again. Who would have come close to paying this much? Carter is talented, but has struggled to stay healthy or provide consistent production in San Francisco. He should move back to defensive end in Washington. Mar. 13 - 6:14 pm et
Source: NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9300482)

Schefter says he is flying in, so I guess it is still not official and stuff can happen so the deal doesn't go through. I've read that the Broncos were after Carter because he would be cheaper alternative than trading for Abraham.

Did the Redskins get a different cap number than the rest of the league? Seems like they had a doomsday scenario and now all of a sudden they are signing everyone at $5M a year...

New York Knicks of football.... :)

You know, we're seeing lots of "overpaid" contracts this year - Washington's 6/30 blank checks, Williams at 6/36, Hutchinson at almost 50 million...has anyone in fandom or the media really wrapped their heads around the escalation of the cap?

In 2000, the cap sat at a hair over $62 million. In 2006, it'll be $102 million. What would have been a $20 million contract with a signing bonus of $5 million just a few years ago is now a $35 million contract with a $10 million signing bonus.

Checking some of the big 2000-2001 deals, I see that the recently released Trevor Price got a seven year extension after his second Pro Bowl with the Broncos worth $60 million, with an $11.5 million signing bonus. Are we seeing any $100 million deals this year with $19 million up front?

Antwaan Randle-El spurned the Bears this year because they wouldn't give him a contract worth $6 million per season...the same cap percentage they offered Marcus Robinson (equivalent 4/24, $8 SB) in 2000. True, Robinson was coming off a great 1400 yard season, but his production since was truly...Randle-Elesque.

I can see reporters missing the increase - doom and gloom heads to more page hits. I can see fans of teams gnashing their teeth - there are dozens of cases this year alone where a player was "a Pro Bowler" one minute when he was courted by the hometown team, and "an overpaid bum" the next when he signed with rivals. But guys...we play FOF, right? Turn on the game, run the cap up to $110 million or so (since we don't have quite the number of ways to ferry around cash as in the NFL) and SEE where the contracts come in.

The NFL's got money, and they share enough to pay for the players. It's pretty much built into the contract. It's done - we stopped arguing about it last week. That said, a lot of this isn't overpaying, it's new money. Since the contracts aren't guaranteed, it'll all balance out.

i wonder what a TO or a Randy Moss could get from Snyder...NFL's first 200 million dollar contract?

Gibbs would never allow either of those guys on his team...

i wonder what a TO or a Randy Moss could get from Snyder...NFL's first 200 million dollar contract?

To answer the question honestly, I could see Washington going to 7 years/$75 million with $16-20 guaranteed if the Cowboys and maybe the Texans both decided to floor it to get one of them.

As Chrisubby said, though, Gibbs wouldn't want either one of them.

In other words Tompson is saying this..."We hope to get one year out of him in which he may or may not try his hardest and then either let him walk for nothing ...

As opposed to getting what for him now? There may be a team dumb enough to offer something for him, but unless the Pack can get a 1st rounder for him, I'd let him retire.

As opposed to getting what for him now? There may be a team dumb enough to offer something for him, but unless the Pack can get a 1st rounder for him, I'd let him retire.

Exactly. A player coming off an injury, with one-year left on his deal, and represented by Rosenhaus. Good luck with that. :)

I think he fired Rosenhaus, FWIW.

I think he fired Rosenhaus, FWIW.

He did, but obviously Drew left enough of a residue on him.

I don't blame Walker - Farve on the other hand, proved once again to be a grade A jackass. He got his money with multiple years on his contract.

The Lions have re-signed PR/KR Eddie Drummond to a 5 year/$6 million deal. That's a lot of money and a long time for a guy who never stays healthy and pretty much sucked last year.

I think it is easy to look at a lot of these contracts and say...whoa! that's a lot of money...when in reality we have no idea how they are structured and thus might be looking at deals that aren't that out of whack in the near-term.

I think it is easy to look at a lot of these contracts and say...whoa! that's a lot of money...when in reality we have no idea how they are structured and thus might be looking at deals that aren't that out of whack in the near-term.

For what it's worth, I don't think Dummond's contract is all that bad. From what I understand, there are a lot of clasues worked into the deal that will significantly reduce the amount of the contract when Drummond is not in the line-up for a game (see: injured).

Here you go Bengals fans.

Bengals talking with agent for Arrington
By Carlos "Big C" Holmes
Dayton Daily News
Tuesday, March 14, 2006
The Cincinnati Bengals have been relatively quiet thus far during this free agent process, signing only veteran S Dexter Jackson, an unrestricted free agent from Tampa Bay, to a four-year contract on Monday. However, the club could be on the verge of making major headlines if it can land arguably the top-rated linebacker on the open market, LaVar Arrington.

Talks between the Bengals and representatives for Arrington are believed to be in the early stages, but things could heat up real soon.

According to Arrington's agent, Kevin Poston, the Bengals have contacted him regarding the Pro-Bowl linebacker, with the latest conversation taking place on Monday.

"Marvin [Lewis] definitely knows LaVar and there's definitely interest there," Poston said. "Marvin not only coached LaVar, but got to know him very intimately on the defensive side of the ball. Cincinnati is a great organization under Marvin's leadership and I'm sure he would like to get LaVar in there if he could. I think Marvin will try to do that."

Arrington, 27, played only one season (2002) under Marvin Lewis when Lewis served as defensive coordinator for the Washington Redskins. Arrington had his best output as a pro that year, registering 92 tackles and 11 sacks. Adding Arrington, who is versatile, aggressive and relentless, to the mix would give the Bengals a lot of flexibility on defense both rushing the passer and stopping the run. Such a move would likely nix the experiment of David Pollack playing the outside linebacker position. During the season Pollack was most effective while playing defensive end and showed that he could play the position at the pro level, which many doubted.


Wow. Maybe a pipe dream. What would it mean? Pollack played well at DE. Maybe he sticks there?

I saw amention of this in the story on Jackson, but didn't think much of it. LaVar would be great in the locker room. I don't know if they'd move Pollack to DE or cut Simmons.

Overall I like LaVar, but if he gets 4mil in cap space I think the money can be better spent.

4 million is nothing for a player of his caliber, and probably not enough to get him. Look at some of the players signed so far. With a larger cap, salaries are going up.

I think it's too early to cut Simmons, though he'd have to fight harder to get on the field.

Would def. prefer them to spend the money at DT instead of LB. Maybe they can get a stud DT in the draft though... but I doubt it at their draft position.

DT is a bigger need, but the defense lacks playmakers in general. There are no great DT's in free agency, only good ones-though good is undoubtedly an upgrade.

DT is a bigger need, but the defense lacks playmakers in general. There are no great DT's in free agency, only good ones-though good is undoubtedly an upgrade.

Both true, but LaVar worries me a bit. If he could come in and play like he did a couple of years ago under Marvin, then I'd be thrilled.

So it sounds like Givens signed with the Titans.

The Pats plan on doing anything with their 15 million?

So it sounds like Givens signed with the Titans.

The Pats plan on doing anything with their 15 million?

Boston Globe reported Tuesday Morning that Kraft has invested the 15 million set aside for cap expenses in a trophy polishing company. They will single handedly keep the 3 super bowl trophies shining brightly for the next 30 years.

When asked why, Mr. Kraft simply shrugged, "Do YOU expect us back?"







;)

Scoop: You're probably right, but I wouldn't dream of giving LaVar more than 4mil. He's had injuries the past two years and regardless of the cause he had two DNPs last year a several more 5-10 snap games.

I'd sign him if he's a bargain, but its a big gamble to give LaVar huge money. I hope the Bengals spend their money on positions that they need help with. LB is probably the strongest position and deepest on that team.

Was LaVar an every down player last year at any point? My understanding was he was only playing a limited number of snaps because he just wasn't what he once was.

Grant: The way the Skins used LaVar was mindboggling. There were maybe two or three games where he was an everydonw backer, notably the Tampa playoff games where he got nine tackles and an interception. Most games he was a situational substitution. Most confusing was that he almost never blitzed and almost never played on third down. This is a guy that a few of years ago almost hit double digit sacks.

It was never clear what the real issue was between the coaches and LaVar. It may have been freelanceing, it may have been personal issues, it may have been that his knee injury took much longer to heal than expected. Regardless, LaVar never was an important piece for the Skins. On the other hand, when he was given snaps he rang up pretty good numbers.

I think he'll be back to Pro Bowl form next year, but I'm also worried about the last two years both in terms of production and injury. If he's a bargain I'd sign him ASAP, but I wouldn't be willing to drop a top money deal on him.

In related news, Kitna's a Lion per bengals.com

I used to like Kitna, but all his talk about God deciding where he'd play this year really turned me off. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Kitna was more concerned about finding a place to compete for a starting job than was God.

I guess I also don't see what Kitna gets out of this. No way the Lions make the playoffs and very little chance Kitna starts more than a few games when Harrington bombs. I hope he enjoys watching the Bengals in the playoffs.

Nice. It was a necessary move and out of the viable options out there: a trade for Ramsey or Culpepper, signing McCown or Brees (too rich), it was the one that seemed to make the most sense.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Kitna was more concerned about finding a place to compete for a starting job than was God.


God could start anywhere he wanted. Talk about the knack for throwing hail mary's. :D

Not a bad signing for Detroit. I'm glad Kitna's not the answer anymore in Cincy. He doesn't have the arm to really run this offense, but he can still play.

I'm really interested in seeing what route they go with the 6th pick. Seeing as this draft is perhaps deepest at LB, I would rather not select Hawk if he's there. Mario Williams or Vernon Davis are the two guys I want the most, but who knows if Mario will be there. I've heard Nolan loves Huff, but that might be a little too early for him. If they trade down, I'd hope it's just a few spots so we can snag one of those guys. Should be interesting to see how everything shakes out though, especially if NO lands Brees.

I don't think they would take Williams with the 6th pick because he doesn't fit into their defensive system (see Carter, Andre). My dream would be that Ferguson falls to them (although I don't see that happening), or trading down. If they trade down to like the 13th-14th pick, there is a chance they can get LenDale White, Chad Greenway, or Winston Justice, all pretty good players.

I think the top 15 in this draft is littered with future Pro Bowlers

Yeah, I think it was a good pickup for Detroit. Kitna's got a good head and can help diagnose the D for Joey. He's also a calming presence and a guy that can keep spirits up. If Joey is ever going to get it, Kitna's going to be a big help.

I think that signing means Joey sits on the bench.

Yeah, I think it was a good pickup for Detroit. Kitna's got a good head and can help diagnose the D for Joey. He's also a calming presence and a guy that can keep spirits up. If Joey is ever going to get it, Kitna's going to be a big help.

So he has gone from talking about Jesus to being Jesus? That's so cool. :)

Jags signed OT Mike Williams from the Bills.


-Anxiety

The Lions also re-signed DE Kalimba Edwards at 5 years and $20 million. Edwards was a 2nd round pick a few years ago. Many in Detroit were displeased with the pick and wanted the Lions to grab Clinton Portis instead. The fact that Kalimba hasn't really developed as advertised and Portis has been excellent hasn't helped ease that displeasure.

Edwards had a career high 7 sacks last year, though only 1 in the last eight games. He is a speed/edge rusher. He really isn't that great, but given the alternatives out there, I don't think it was a bad idea to re-sign him. The Lions only have two other DEs (Hall and Swancutt) under contract, so it was a need. Hopefully Marinelli and Henderson can really work with Edwards and make him everything he was meant to be.

So far the Lions have signed Kitna and Cory Bradford and re-signed Eddie Drummond and Kalimba Edwards. It's a start, I guess.

I think that signing means Joey sits on the bench.

I don't think so. I think the signing was an attempt to get some stability in the back-up QB role. That said, based on past performance, Joey will likely be sitting on the bench in the near future in any event.

The other thread says it, but Culpepper getting dealt to Miami (for a 2nd) cleared the way for the Saints to sign Brees to a $60 million, 6 year deal.

This means the Saints are no way getting a QB with the 2nd pick. Speculation is they may trade down to the Jets, so they can pick Leinhart. I have to think the Saints may be looking at Ferguson or defense with the pick now.

And the 'Skins sign their Mentor: Quarterbacks.


Todd Collins (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/14/AR2006031400957.html).

And the 'Skins sign their Mentor: Quarterbacks.


Todd Collins (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/14/AR2006031400957.html).

It never hurts to a have Michigan quarterback on your team. Unless that quarterback happens to be The Betrayer. Then you're fucked.

Just heard that the Cowboys have cut Keyshawn Johnson. Hrmm... I wonder who they will get to replace him.

The Lions Free Agent Frenzy Tuesday continues... The Lions have signed TE Dan Campbell to a 5 year deal.

Just heard that the Cowboys have cut Keyshawn Johnson. Hrmm... I wonder who they will get to replace him.

Oh, god. Here comes TO. :nono:

My sources tell me that the Lions and guard Kevin Barry (Green Bay) and getting close to finalizing an agreement.

Also, Julian Peterson was made an offer, but Cleveland called and made a higher offer and the Lions are now considering whether to up their offer...

Will confirm later.

Oh, god. Here comes TO. :nono:

I'm with you Taz. If this happens, it's a dark, dark day. Keyshawn was fantastic for Dallas in his time there. I can't help but to think this'll be a big mistake. :(

Any Detroit People.

Is there any truth to the rumor that Mike Williams is being shopped for a 3rd or 4th round pick? Seems to make absolutely no sense whatsoever, but it's the second time I heard that rumor. Did he get some sort of "split bonus" last year and is still due a sizeable chunk at some point this offseason, cause then it would seem to make a touch more sense.

Lookout Tom Brady. Kimo Von Ohlehoffen just signed with the Jets(3/9m).

Any Detroit People.

Is there any truth to the rumor that Mike Williams is being shopped for a 3rd or 4th round pick? Seems to make absolutely no sense whatsoever, but it's the second time I heard that rumor. Did he get some sort of "split bonus" last year and is still due a sizeable chunk at some point this offseason, cause then it would seem to make a touch more sense.

I haven't heard that rumor at all. The only Mike Williams rumor I've heard over the last few days is that he's out of shape. He was in poor shape pretty much all of last season and he's been packing on the pounds during the off-season. Obviously not a good sign and a concern apparently a lot of teams had about the guy: poor work ethic.

Even based on those reports, I would be stunned if the Lions were trying to move him.

I haven't heard that rumor at all. The only Mike Williams rumor I've heard over the last few days is that he's out of shape. He was in poor shape pretty much all of last season and he's been packing on the pounds during the off-season. Obviously not a good sign and a concern apparently a lot of teams had about the guy: poor work ethic.

Even based on those reports, I would be stunned if the Lions were trying to move him.


Maybe he's trying to eat himself into being a TE?

Maybe he's trying to eat himself into being a TE?

That was always the fear...

Also, Julian Peterson was made an offer, but Cleveland called and made a higher offer and the Lions are now considering whether to up their offer...


It appears as if the Lions decided Peterson was too rich for their blood... He goes to Celveland for 5 yrs/$30 million. (Need confirm with my sources...)

It looks like the Lions will continue to follow their plan of spending only on mediocrity throughout the off season.

Yeah, Peterson to the Stains is all but confirmed.

Lookout Tom Brady. Kimo Von Ohlehoffen just signed with the Jets(3/9m).

Bummer. I hate to see Kimo leave the Steelers, but I would have been surprised to see him get anything beyond a 1 year/minimum deal. Can't blame the man for getting paid.

Brett Keisel signs a 4 year deal with the Steelers. I'm sure nobody but the hardcore fans even know who he is, but he should be a nice fit at RDE in the 3/4 package. Always nice to see one of your 7th rounders blossom into a starter.

driving home from work just now and I almost drove off the road when they hit the "Sports Flash" and started detailing all the movement. Guess the chips are all really falling into place! WOW

driving home from work just now and I almost drove off the road when they hit the "Sports Flash" ... WOW

Was it the Dan Campbell singing? I bet it was the Dan Campbell signing.

Some Steeler news:

the Jets gave von Oelhoffen a $3.2 million signing bonus as part of his three-year, $9.2 million deal.


Also, the Steelers sign a player I have never heard of before to become their starting SS: Ryan Clark from the Redskins. Any 'skins fans have impressions on him?

I'm with you Taz. If this happens, it's a dark, dark day. Keyshawn was fantastic for Dallas in his time there. I can't help but to think this'll be a big mistake. :(

It's rare when I say this, but I agree with the Okie... :(

Vikings | Team changing uniforms
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:46:00 -0800

Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Minnesota Vikings will be wearing new uniforms for the 2006 season. Steve LaCroix, Vikings vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed the uniform change, although he declined to say to what extent. "We are working with the NFL and Reebok on some exciting changes for the 2006 season. The process is still continuing, but we'll look to have an unveiling later in the offseason for our fans," he said.

Why? :(

The Vikes have just decided to run with their image and go crotchless.

Was it the Dan Campbell singing? I bet it was the Dan Campbell signing.

LOL. nope. it was just all of them...Givens...Brees, Culpepper, etc. Seems like there was finally a ton of movement today, and coming from being in my own isolated little world all day it just shocked me.

Vikings | Team changing uniforms
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:46:00 -0800

Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Minnesota Vikings will be wearing new uniforms for the 2006 season. Steve LaCroix, Vikings vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed the uniform change, although he declined to say to what extent. "We are working with the NFL and Reebok on some exciting changes for the 2006 season. The process is still continuing, but we'll look to have an unveiling later in the offseason for our fans," he said.

Why? :(

They will be electric purple with a huge canary yellow Viking horn swoop down the pant leg and jersey reminiscent of the Broncos. :) Just kidding, I hate most uniform changes.

Vikings | Team changing uniforms
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:46:00 -0800

Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Minnesota Vikings will be wearing new uniforms for the 2006 season. Steve LaCroix, Vikings vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed the uniform change, although he declined to say to what extent. "We are working with the NFL and Reebok on some exciting changes for the 2006 season. The process is still continuing, but we'll look to have an unveiling later in the offseason for our fans," he said.

Why? :(

I hope they don't change them too drastically - despite my hatred of the Vikings, I've always kind of liked their uniforms.

It would be nice if their helmets and their jersies were actually the same color for once....

It would be nice if their helmets and their jersies were actually the same color for once....

...So says the man who likes a team with tiger stripes on their jerseys.

Latest out of Detroit is that Joey Harrington is finally fed up with his tenure here and will likely be asking to leave the team. Last week Mike Martz held a QB School for the current Lions' QB's (Shaun King, Orlovsky, and Harrington). Apparently, it didn't go all that well and Harrington and Martz didn't get along. Shocking, I know.

The saga continues. . .

Some Steeler news:



Also, the Steelers sign a player I have never heard of before to become their starting SS: Ryan Clark from the Redskins. Any 'skins fans have impressions on him?

I'm not a Skins fan, but since I'm in the DC area I've seen a lot of him. I think he's a solid safety but not an impact player. He'll probably fit in well with the Steelers Defense and is a legitimate starter as long as you don't expect too much from him.

Some Steeler news:



Also, the Steelers sign a player I have never heard of before to become their starting SS: Ryan Clark from the Redskins. Any 'skins fans have impressions on him?

Clark will actually be at FS...but agree, don't know a whole lot about him. I recognized the name, that's about all. According to the Pittsburgh paper, they made Hope an offer to return first, to which he said 'No way', and then made the offer to Clark. Can he play the deep middle, because that is mostly what he'll be asked to do, with Troy being Troy.

Also...agree with an earlier poster at the amount of $ Kimo saw. I had him pegged for a 1 year offer from most teams, with he returning to the Steelers, all other factors being about equal. But, you don't walk away from the offer he got from the Jets.

Keisel should be solid...but, that leaves depth thin--unless you really like Travis Kirschke, which I don't.

backup Packer QB Craig Nall is visiting the Vikings.

They should build a high speed train from Green Bay to Minneapolis for all the movement west by the players.....

Maximum customization.

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Vikings | Team changing uniforms
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:46:00 -0800

Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Minnesota Vikings will be wearing new uniforms for the 2006 season. Steve LaCroix, Vikings vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed the uniform change, although he declined to say to what extent. "We are working with the NFL and Reebok on some exciting changes for the 2006 season. The process is still continuing, but we'll look to have an unveiling later in the offseason for our fans," he said.

Here's what I don't get: why would the Texans draft Bush? Is Davis really that bad? I know he had a mediocre year this year, but their O-Line absolutely stunk. Am I missing something?

Here's what I don't get: why would the Texans draft Bush? Is Davis really that bad? I know he had a mediocre year this year, but their O-Line absolutely stunk. Am I missing something?

Nope. And 230/976 4.2 is hardly a mediocre year when you consider he only played in 11 games due to injuries. Although 269 of that came vs Tennessee and another 165 vs the Ravens.

Here's what I don't get: why would the Texans draft Bush? Is Davis really that bad? I know he had a mediocre year this year, but their O-Line absolutely stunk. Am I missing something?

Because a lot of people feel Bush is one of those 'once in generation' or 'once in a decade' type of players, and you just shouldn't pass on that. The Packers passed on Barry Sanders and took Tony Mandrich, bad move. Some think passing on Bush would be like that I guess. :confused:

The Packers passed on Barry Sanders and took Tony Mandrich

One of the great moments in Lions' history. :)

They will be electric purple with a huge canary yellow Viking horn swoop down the pant leg and jersey reminiscent of the Broncos. :) Just kidding, I hate most uniform changes.
At least one team will always be consistent with their uniforms.

People shouldn't joke about uniform changes. I still get close to tears (of sadness) when I remember his thread...

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=38275&highlight=packers+uniforms

Loren read it to me over the phone when I was on the road, and never told me it was a parody thread. I thought it was real for about 5-10 minutes. I was pissed.

...So says the man who likes a team with tiger stripes on their jerseys.

Your point being? Our mascot IS a tiger after all. At least the main COLOR of our team is consistant on the uniform.

Minnesota's Jersey and Helmet haven't matched in color since the 1970's.

At least one team will always be consistent with their uniforms.

Ugly, boring in the extreme, but if consistantcy is your thing, you can have it ;)


EDIT: WTF is up with these nasty ass smilys?

it's football. colors aren't supposed to match.

matching is teh unmanly

Any Titans fans out there know what would happen with Billy Volek if the team goes for a QB in the draft? He was kind of considered a starting QB-in-waiting before this season. I wonder if a team like the Raiders or Vikings would be interested in him now.

Seahawks resign Bernard to a 3 year deal and bring back Peter Warrick on a one year contract.

I think solid signings, though the Bernard one is a bit of a surprise. Figured he'd get a rich enough contract elsewhere to lure him away, but I'm very happy to see him return to the rotation with Tubbs and Darby. Should be a solid defensive line for the Hawks this year with the potential of spectacular if they can add a pass rushing end to the mix.

Warrick, well, likely a cheap signing and he should at least push the younger guys for the #3 spot.

Cleveland signs Willie McGinest to a 3 year, $12 million deal.

I'm not a Skins fan, but since I'm in the DC area I've seen a lot of him. I think he's a solid safety but not an impact player. He'll probably fit in well with the Steelers Defense and is a legitimate starter as long as you don't expect too much from him. From ESPN Insider:

2005 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
S Ryan Clark
Grade: 69 | Key (http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/features/scouting#key)
Alert: None

Comment:
Clark is a very active strong safety. He is always around the ball or near the action. He is best versus the run. He has the ability to key and diagnose the run and seems instinctive when locating the ball. He is good on run support both outside and inside. However, Clark is a better run stopper than a pass defender. He does not have overall speed and quickness. He lacks change of direction and body control. He is stiff in the hips and does not have a smooth transition or ease of movement and he is not fluid on his back pedal. He lacks catch up speed coming out of his breaks. He is a much better player in zone coverage than in man coverage.

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I had not read that scouting report before just now, but I would say it pretty much echoes my impressions of him. He is horrid against the pass and always seemed a step slow. That said, he is a big hitter...and he plays hard. You'll like him.

Cleveland signs Willie McGinest to a 3 year, $12 million deal.

:(

I think New England is letting a lot of good system players leave. It will be interesting to see how they hold up.

It's not so much that they let good players go, it's more that they haven't signed anyone and have only even spoken to a player or two. It's really odd, I'm not sure what they are thinking.

I think we can expect extensions for both Seymour and Branch, not sure what else they plan to do with that money. Even after that they are going to have a decent bit of cash this year.

Cleveland signs Willie McGinest to a 3 year, $12 million deal.
W00t!

My sources tell me that the Lions and guard Kevin Barry (Green Bay) and getting close to finalizing an agreement.

Also, Julian Peterson was made an offer, but Cleveland called and made a higher offer and the Lions are now considering whether to up their offer...

Will confirm later.

Packers re-signed Kevin Barry

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2006/03/15/1/

It's not so much that they let good players go, it's more that they haven't signed anyone and have only even spoken to a player or two. It's really odd, I'm not sure what they are thinking.

I think we can expect extensions for both Seymour and Branch, not sure what else they plan to do with that money. Even after that they are going to have a decent bit of cash this year.

I agree that they are not letting any super-elite talent go, but I suspect if they continue to lose a lot of system players, there will be a significantly higher amount of execution problems next season. In particular, they are going to have to rely on a lot of unfamilar receivers knowing where to be on third-and-long plays next season.

Packers re-signed Kevin Barry

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2006/03/15/1/

Yeah, I saw that. My sources are beginning to prove unreliable. I am thinking of having them removed. . . permanently.

Well pretty much everyone was expecting Givens and McGinest(mostly due to Crennel and Mangini) to be gone after this season. There were some last second hopes with Givens, but that was about it. You think they would have at least looked at the other WRs and CBs out there. There were rumors they were targeting Jurevicius, either they totally botched that or he cut them off at the pass.

I just can't seen Vinatieri not being resigned now, I don't think he's going to get the offer he was hoping for.

Well pretty much everyone was expecting Givens and McGinest(mostly due to Crennel and Mangini) to be gone after this season. There were some last second hopes with Givens, but that was about it. You think they would have at least looked at the other WRs and CBs out there. There were rumors they were targeting Jurevicius, either they totally botched that or he cut them off at the pass.

I just can't seen Vinatieri not being resigned now, I don't think he's going to get the offer he was hoping for.

It's not the Pats style to go after players who are valued by other teams. I can actually see them possibly going after T.O. or Keyshawn.

I've heard the T.O. name thrown around some, I just don't see it. I could see it after his tenure with the 49'ers, not now though. He just proved that, unlike Dillon, his attitude was not a fluke or a product of a specific situation.

Keyshawn I could see though. But could he take not being a #1 me me me guy?

I actually think T.O. will be a great value next season. I bet he'll be on a pretty restrictive, short term deal and he will be looking to play well enough (on and off the field) to get one more big payday. I imagine he will lay low and then whichever team has a lot of cap left after all of the chips have fallen will sign him.

Any Titans fans out there know what would happen with Billy Volek if the team goes for a QB in the draft? He was kind of considered a starting QB-in-waiting before this season. I wonder if a team like the Raiders or Vikings would be interested in him now.


Swaggs, mant Titans fans including myself expect the titans to deal Volek away arounfd draft time . I guess maybe on draft day after they have picked up a QB, mostly Leinart or Cutler. I think they could get a 4th rounder definitely but probably a late-to-mid 3rd round pick for him.

On similar note, being a Titans fan I am very happy with the FA acquisitions by the Titans. Givens at WR will be another Derrick Mason, take the load off Drew Bennett who had 1 11 TD, 1250 80 catch season in 2005 and will fit into Norm Chow's West Coast,USC-style offense perfectly. I like the LB Thornton from the Colts . He along with superstar LB Keith Bulluck give the titans two young ,fats and talented outside LB for years to come. The pick-up of Mathau at center will give the Titans young offensive linemen a good role model on and off the field.
The Titans are also, a strong contender to signed....................................... cancel that they just announced that they signed Chris Hope safety from the steelers so along with last years Pacman Jones and a very very good young defensive line the defense has really shaped up. The titans could be in the thick of the wildcard this year or even the afc south title again. I would like to see the Titans draft a Rb, QB and starting tackle but they will need to trade someone to get another 1st or 2nd round pick to do it.

I think Volek is worth a third, given his success during his opportunities, that his contract is very managable and that he is healthy. I'm not sure if Rosenhaus is still his agent, but that is a negative, if so.

I am biased as a WVU fan, but I think (and hope) Pacman will improve by leaps and bounds this season. Once he figures out that he isn't the best athlete on the field at all times and starts playing within the defensive scheme, he will be very good.

More Packers signings.

This one from Rotoworld:

Rod Gardner - WR - Packers

Packers re-signed WR Rod Gardner to a one-year contract.
Gardner has gone from fantasy sleeper to struggling to stay in the league in a matter of years. There is opportunity for playing time in Green Bay, so he's someone to keep an eye on. Mar. 15 - 8:19 pm et
Source: ESPN.com
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And this one from Packersnews.com:

Packers appear to be picking Pickett over Jackson

By Pete Dougherty
PackersNews.com

It appears the Green Bay Packers will sign free-agent defensive tackle Ryan Pickett, according to an NFL source, which means Grady Jackson won't be returning to the team.

The Packers out-bid Buffalo and Pickett's original team, the St. Louis Rams. Terms of the contract weren't available, though St. Louis is believed to have offered him a five-year deal worth $16 million for the 6-2, 310-pound Pickett.

Pickett, 26, a former first-round draft pick who started for the Rams the last four years, will fill Jackson's role as the major run-stopper in the middle of the defensive line. Jackson is one of the Packers' free agents, and it's a given he'll sign with another team now.
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In addition, the Packers re-signed restricted FA Kenny Peterson to a $712k tender. I'm pleased with all of the Packers' signings today, assuming Gardner's deal was reasonable. Now if we could just get a kicker...or a guard...make that two guards...and a pony...

Cowboys | May make a move with J. Brown
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:59:25 -0800
Adam Schefter, of the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl">NFL Network, reports the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl) may sign restricted free agent PK Josh Brown (http://www.kffl.com/player/7530/nfl) (Seahawks) to an offer sheet.

Huh? With Vinatieri and Liquored Up kicker available, why go after an RFA?


Cowboys | K. Johnson could return to team
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:41:07 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/128">Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer (http://www.kffl.com/link/129), reports free agent WR Keyshawn Johnson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1836/nfl) (Cowboys) said during an interview on Sirius NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl) Radio that there was a good chance he would re-sign with the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl).

Say no to TO!

I also like the Packers signings so far. The retention of Kampman leads me to beleive they may draft A.J. Hawk and not Mario Williams which is good because they need linebackers. The latest on Favre is he wants to play but the team has to improve which they have on the defensive side. They also signed safety Marquel Manuel. I don't know too much about him, but I guess they want him to start. As Fonzie said, they need offensive line help and maybe another receiver in addition to Gardner if Walker holds out and Murphy is done for good. I like the re-signing of Ahman Greeen at a cheap price. Vinatieri is suppose to visit Green Bay, but will the Packers shell out top bucks for a kicker? But as a Packer fan, you have to be pleased with the way things are going so far, at least I am.

Cowboys | K. Johnson could return to team
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:41:07 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/128">Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer (http://www.kffl.com/link/129), reports free agent WR Keyshawn Johnson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1836/nfl) (Cowboys) said during an interview on Sirius NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl) Radio that there was a good chance he would re-sign with the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl).



Woohoo!!!

The Browns are just going all kinds of apeshit this year aren't they?

I can see the AFC North being the toughest division in the NFL in the next couple years.

I mean goodness- Shaffer, Bentley, Zastudil, McGinest, Jurevicius, Washington..

And Charlie Frye looked quite good last season.

That said, I hate the Browns (but only slightly), Strongly dislike and wish catastrophe on the Steelers, and feel indifference, if not pure, ungodly ill will toward the Ravens.

Cinci is pretty cool though. :)

The Browns are just going all kinds of apeshit this year aren't they?

I can see the AFC North being the toughest division in the NFL in the next couple years.

The thing that is most pleasing is that Brian Billick's darling Kyle Boller is essentially shafting him into the unemployment line. Don't understand the signing of Mike Anderson... unless they're going to start running the option. The book on BAL was already to shut down the run and force them to throw. That signing doesn't help that at all, as I think Anderson's success is a product of the Denver running game.

Hopefully, it will still be a 2 horse race between PIT and CIN for a few more years.

Huh? With Vinatieri and Liquored Up kicker available, why go after an RFA?



I agree with you that Vinatieri's better. But I think Brown's a good kicker, and I'd be happy to have him.

And allow me to echo Jeeber's "Woohoo!" on Keyshawn.

The Browns are just going all kinds of apeshit this year aren't they?

I can see the AFC North being the toughest division in the NFL in the next couple years.

I mean goodness- Shaffer, Bentley, Zastudil, McGinest, Jurevicius, Washington..

And Charlie Frye looked quite good last season.

That said, I hate the Browns (but only slightly), Strongly dislike and wish catastrophe on the Steelers, and feel indifference, if not pure, ungodly ill will toward the Ravens.

Cinci is pretty cool though. :)

No no... W&M Grad Lang Campbell will tear it up for the Berlin Thunder, come back, and unseat Charlie Frye as the Browns starting QB ;)...

Jabbar Gaffney signed with the Eagles. This may be a good signing, but he's no more than a #2. Hopefully Pinkston will be okay to be the #1 guy.

The End of the Joey Harrington Era has arrived.

The Lions have signed QB Josh McCown to a 2 year/$6 million deal.

Good bye, Joey Blueskies. Good bye...

HB: Do you think this means Kitna is your starter? He's a great guy, but I don't think he can lead a team to much success.

HB: Do you think this means Kitna is your starter? He's a great guy, but I don't think he can lead a team to much success.

I think Kitna is going to be the backup with McCown as the starter. Here's how I see it playing out...

Going into camp, neither Kitna nor McCown will be named as the starting QB. It will be an open competition between the two. Now, it's possible that Kitna out performs McCown, gels with Three Divas, and is named the starter. I think Kitna would have to out perform McCown pretty significantly for this to happen.

I think the more likely scenario is that McCown gets more of a chance during pre-season and the two play equally well (or, more likely, equally poorly/mediocrely) and McCown tabbed as the starting QB with Kitna as his able back-up. The Lions will then want to see if McCown develops and, if he does, they will look to extend his contract/sign him to a new one to be the long-term answer.

In sum, I think McCown is more likely than Kitna to be the starting QB for the Lions.

In all likelihood, they will both get some playing time as the starter and there will be a Rodney Peete vs. Erik Kramer type QB controversy going for a while and then people will start calling for Orlovsky. It's just how it goes in Detroit. The QB position has been a mess for 40+ years or so. It's pathetic.

I think McCown could possibly beat out Kitna for the starting role. Sure McCown threw some Ints, but he did play for the Cardinals. Either could lead the team, IMO, to an 8-8 year.

Do you think the Lions will draft a quarterback if the situation presents itself? I never can tell what Millen is thinking.

I also like the Packers signings so far. The retention of Kampman leads me to beleive they may draft A.J. Hawk and not Mario Williams which is good because they need linebackers. The latest on Favre is he wants to play but the team has to improve which they have on the defensive side. They also signed safety Marquel Manuel. I don't know too much about him, but I guess they want him to start. As Fonzie said, they need offensive line help and maybe another receiver in addition to Gardner if Walker holds out and Murphy is done for good. I like the re-signing of Ahman Greeen at a cheap price. Vinatieri is suppose to visit Green Bay, but will the Packers shell out top bucks for a kicker? But as a Packer fan, you have to be pleased with the way things are going so far, at least I am.

For what it's worth, there was another Packersnews.com article stating that Barry would be tried at both RG and RT in the offseason camps. If he was better at RT, Tauscher would move to RG. So they may only need one more starting guard.

As for the Williams/Hawk decision, it'll be interesting to see which way TT goes. He's said (like all GMs say) that they'll go with the BPA, and Williams seems to be the concensus BPA. But he's got KGB and Kampman under contract now, so where would Williams fit in?

I wonder if Harrington has any trade value?

I thought that I had heard that St. Louis and Kansas City were interested in him last season, but they both have new head coaches now. I wonder if the Raiders might take a good look at him. He might be decent roll of the dice for them.

The End of the Joey Harrington Era has arrived.

The Lions have signed QB Josh McCown to a 2 year/$6 million deal.

Good bye, Joey Blueskies. Good bye...

Linky?

Linky?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2371034

Lions ink free agent QB McCown

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ESPN.com

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><!-- begin leftcol --><!-- template inline -->In a move that likely augurs the imminent departure of starting quarterback [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5889"]Joey Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2371034#) after four disappointing seasons, ESPN.com has learned that the Detroit Lions (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det) on Thursday signed unrestricted free agent Josh McCown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5967), who had played his entire career with the Arizona Cardinals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ari).
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McCown, 26, signed a two-year contract worth $6 million, a deal that will pay him $4 million in 2006 between his signing bonus and base salary. The addition of McCown comes just two days after Detroit signed former Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin) quarterback Jon Kitna (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4157) to a four-year, $11.5 million contract that has a signing bonus of $3.5 million.
League sources said that the acquisitions of Kitna and McCown will result in the release or trade of Harrington, who was the third overall player selected in the 2002 draft. Harrington is due a roster bonus of $4 million on June 15 and is scheduled to have a 2006 base salary of $4.5 million.
Releasing or trading Harrington, who has compiled an 18-37 record as a starter, will save the Lions about $5.4 million in 2006 cap space.
First-year head coach Rod Marinelli and offensive coordinator Mike Martz both suggested in recent days that they viewed Harrington as the starter. The public support aside, team and league sources acknowledged that the new coaching staff did not regard Harrington as much as they claimed and that the Lions were actively seeking out alternatives.
The plan now is to allow Kitna and McCown to compete for the starting job.
In McCown, whose résumé includes 22 starts, Martz is getting a young, talented quarterback that he might be able to mold in much the same manner he did past protégés like Trent Green (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2547), Kurt Warner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4541) and Marc Bulger (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5197). McCown has appeared in 33 games and completed 498 of 862 passes for 5,431 yards, with 25 touchdown passes, 29 interceptions and a 72.1 efficiency rating.
The strategy of McCown's agent, Mike McCartney, was to sign his client to a short-term deal and with a team where he could legitimately compete for the starting job, and then get back to the bargaining table for a bigger contract. The plan is the same blueprint McCartney and his associates at Priority Sports used with Jake Delhomme (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4555) three years ago.
The Lions invested a lot of time and money in Harrington, a former Oregon star, but apparently have decided that, with a new coaching staff, his shelf-life in Detroit has expired. Harrington, 26, started in 55 of 58 appearances and completed 986 of 1,802 passes for 10,242 yards, with 60 touchdown passes, 62 interception and a 68.1 passer rating.
Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.
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I can't see Harrington having LESS trade value than Patrick Ramsey, and the talk is the Skins might get a 4th for him...

Before Keyshawn re-signs with the Cowboys (if they can't get T.O.), I'd reallly like to see Rich McKay bring him to Atlanta to see if they can sign him away. He'd be a great fit for a running team like the Falcons (they usually like possession WRs that can block).

Gracias, HB.

I wonder if Harrington has any trade value?

I thought that I had heard that St. Louis and Kansas City were interested in him last season, but they both have new head coaches now. I wonder if the Raiders might take a good look at him. He might be decent roll of the dice for them.

I think the Lions are exploring that at the moment, but I don't think he does. He has about a $4 million roster bonus coming up on June 15. I don't think teams want to swallow that. Also, in true Lions' fashion, they pretty much blew any value he might have had by signing McCown. Teams know that they are going to cut him. It's just a matter of time.

It will be interesting to see. It would be nice if the Lions could get something for him. The Redskins are trying to get something for Ramsey, but so far all I have heard is that the Jets are willing to give them a 7th rounder. Not sure if Joey has more/less trade value than Ramsey.

I thought Harrington could've done well with Martz's teaching. Ah well...

Do you think the Lions will draft a quarterback if the situation presents itself? I never can tell what Millen is thinking.

You can never say never when Millen is involved, but unless they draft Vince Young and convert him to a WR, I would say it's pretty doubtful. They have Kitna, McCown, and Orlovsky (plus Shaun King). I think they are pretty happy with that set of QBs at the moment.

Depending on who is available, at the moment I think the most likely players for the Lions at the nine spot are: Vernon Davis, Michael Huff, or Tamba Hali.

I thought Harrington could've done well with Martz's teaching. Ah well...

Apparently Martz held a "Quarterback School" session last week or the week before with Orlovsky, King, and Harrington. Rumors have it that it did not go well between Martz and Harrington. It did not go well at all. I am sure a lot has to do with Joey's building frustration with the situation and Martz's sparkling personality.

So the Lions now have enough QBs to throw to all their WRs...cool. :D

So the Lions now have enough QBs to throw to all their WRs...cool. :D

Maximum Customization, baybee...

I reckon it was Millen's plan all along:

Draft 3 WRs in the first round and then sign a bunch of mediocre QBs to throw them the ball. It's so crazy it just might work!

I agree with you that Vinatieri's better. But I think Brown's a good kicker, and I'd be happy to have him.

And allow me to echo Jeeber's "Woohoo!" on Keyshawn.

My main concern was having to give up a draft pick in addition to signing him. However, it looks like the Seahawks would only get a 7th rounder if the Cowboys sign him and I'm okay with that.

My main concern was having to give up a draft pick in addition to signing him. However, it looks like the Seahawks would only get a 7th rounder if the Cowboys sign him and I'm okay with that.

I honestly think the Cowboys would have to make a crazy offer to Brown for Seattle not to end up matching it. Our special teams were just brutal last year with Brown being the only reliable piece of the puzzle. He improved his kickoffs and was strong all year aside from missing the one potential game winner. Just can't see them letting the only solid piece of their special teams go when all they'd get in return is a 7th rounder.

From rotoworld, regarding the Hutchinson saga:

The Seahawks are expected to match Minnesota's offer sheet for Steve Hutchinson, but not match the provision that would fully guarantee the contract.
It looks like this one is headed to arbitration. It's a complicated issue, but there is likely to be a legal battle about what matching the "Principle terms" of the contract means. In the meantime, both teams won't know how to construct their 2006 team or use their salary cap space.

I am perfectly happy with that Hutchinson situation. The longer the Vikings and Seahawks are stuck in limbo, the better.

Another one that could interest Redskins' and Steelers' fans:

The Redskins may be interested in restricted free agent Ike Taylor.
Taylor was given the first-round tender by the Steelers, meaning he'd cost the 'Skins a first-rounder and a contract. Washington does not have a first-round pick.

I think Ike is probably worth a non-top 15 first rounder and would hate to see him leave. I think he will be a very solid starting CB and he is entering his prime. I wonder what would happen if the Skins do sign him, since they do not have a first rounder.

Another one that could interest Redskins' and Steelers' fans:



I think Ike is probably worth a non-top 15 first rounder and would hate to see him leave. I think he will be a very solid starting CB and he is entering his prime. I wonder what would happen if the Skins do sign him, since they do not have a first rounder.

Same thing that happened with Lloyd and would have happened with Abraham - Washington will negotiate compensation and try to trade for him instead of giving up a first they don't have.

From rotoworld, regarding the Hutchinson saga:

Does anybody know if this does go to arbitration, would it mean that either the Seahawks would get him with that provision removed or the Vikings get him with the provision in tact, or is it a case of ruling that the provision is or is not a part of the contract that Seattle would have to match, then Seattle having a choice of whether they want to match if it is ruled to indeed be a part of the contract they'd have to honor if they choose to match.

Does anybody know if this does go to arbitration, would it mean that either the Seahawks would get him with that provision removed or the Vikings get him with the provision in tact, or is it a case of ruling that the provision is or is not a part of the contract that Seattle would have to match, then Seattle having a choice of whether they want to match if it is ruled to indeed be a part of the contract they'd have to honor if they choose to match.
I'm betting that what Seattle does is submit a 'matching' offer to the NFL for Hutch that excludes the provision in question. If the NFL rules the Seahawks offer is a valid match, the Vikings would protest and request arbitration; if the NFL rules that the offer isn't a valid match, the Seahawks will protest and request arbitration. Either way, the result would likely be that the winner of the arbitration gets Hutch, rather than say Seattle losing the arbitration and then deciding whether or not to add that provision.

One of Randy Moss' agents, Dante DiTrapano, was arrested for possession of crack cocaine. What's the world coming to?? :)

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06075/671076.stm

the tidbit on DiTrapano is at the bottom of the NFL roundup.

Seahawks resign Bernard to a 3 year deal and bring back Peter Warrick on a one year contract.

I think solid signings, though the Bernard one is a bit of a surprise. Figured he'd get a rich enough contract elsewhere to lure him away, but I'm very happy to see him return to the rotation with Tubbs and Darby. Should be a solid defensive line for the Hawks this year with the potential of spectacular if they can add a pass rushing end to the mix.

Warrick, well, likely a cheap signing and he should at least push the younger guys for the #3 spot.
Just wanted to acknowledge these. Good moves, I think, for the Hawks.

Here's the (potential) big one guys:

KLBK-13, the CBS affiliate in Dallas, reports that Terrell Owens will be introduced as a member of the Cowboys Monday.
The report's headline say Owens will sign, while the article's contents claim he already has. That doesn't help credibility. No other national or Dallas news source is backing up the story at this point. The Cowboys released Keyshawn Johnson earlier this week.

That's what I thought I just saw scroll on ESPNews.

I think Owens himself is denying he signed with the Cowpokes at this point.

I think Owens himself is denying he signed with the Cowpokes at this point.

But has he started demanding that his not-yet-existent contract be redone yet?

As a Redskins fan, I'm not sure whether to be ecstatic or to cry.

Cowboys | Report - Owens agrees to three-year deal with Dallas
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:55:47 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/14">Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com (http://www.kffl.com/link/189), free agent WR Terrell Owens (http://www.kffl.com/player/1608/nfl)' (Eagles) agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has denied a report from KLBK-13 CBS TV in Lubbock, Texas, that Owens has agreed to a deal with the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl). While Rosenhaus is denying the report, a source close to Owens has confirmed to FOXSports.com (http://www.kffl.com/link/189) that Owens has agreed to a three-year deal and it will not be announced until the coming days.

The FoxSports article, http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5420122

Profootballtalk says it is bogus.


POSTED 10:08 p.m. EST, March 16, 2006

REPORT OF T.O. SIGNING IS "BOGUS"

Reports originating from a Lubbock, Texas television station that receiver Terrell Owens has signed with the Cowboys are "bogus," a league source with knowledge of the situation tells us.

KLBK 13 says that sources with the Cowboys have told the station that Owens already has been signed (http://www.klbk13.tv/), and that the move will be announced on Monday.

On one hand, we could envision the Cowboys intentionally leaking misinformation in order to scare off other potential suitors while owner Jerry Jones wraps up a vacation. On the other hand, why in the hell would the leak be made to a television station in Lubbock?


Bottom line -- there's no deal, and the reports are erroneous.

T.O. hasn't even officially signed anywhere yet and I am already tired of him. His saga is so over played it's ridiculous.

JUST SAY NO TO T.O.!!!!!!!

What's the over/under on days until Bill Parcells punches T.O. in the face?

JUST SAY NO TO T.O.!!!!!!!

I'd like to sign up for your newsletter...

The Seahawks are expected to match Minnesota's offer sheet for Steve Hutchinson, but not match the provision that would fully guarantee the contract.
It looks like this one is headed to arbitration. It's a complicated issue, but there is likely to be a legal battle about what matching the "Principle terms" of the contract means. In the meantime, both teams won't know how to construct their 2006 team or use their salary cap space. Mar. 16 - 4:10 pm et

The Seahawks are expected to match Minnesota's offer sheet for Steve Hutchinson, but not match the provision that would fully guarantee the contract.
It looks like this one is headed to arbitration. It's a complicated issue, but there is likely to be a legal battle about what matching the "Principle terms" of the contract means. In the meantime, both teams won't know how to construct their 2006 team or use their salary cap space. Mar. 16 - 4:10 pm et

seems like a mickey mouse strategy. yeah we'll match some of the offer.

seems like a mickey mouse strategy. yeah we'll match some of the offer.

Seems to me the "Mickey Mouse" strategy is to claim that you'll only guarantee the contract if you sign someone for more money than $49 million over 6 years when you have no intention of doing so. If Minny ever DOES need to buy someone for more money, they'll just renegotiate Hutch's contract to do so so they don't have to pay out the rest of the contract.

By extending the offer, Seattle has shown that they are willing to compensate Hutchinson to the degree that Minnesota is willing to pay Hutchinson. By structuring the contract the way they did, Minnesota is forcing Seattle to EXCEED Minnesota's offer (since Seattle has a player making more). All Seattle is arguing is that their contract is a fairer "match" than Minnesota's contract. And they're right.

I just heard that the Redskins traded Patrick Ramsey to the Jets for a 6th round pick.

Here's a link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2372804

The race for John Abraham.

Jets | Falcons reach agreement with Abraham; still need to work out a trade
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:01:22 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/9">ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli (http://www.kffl.com/link/17) reports the Atlanta Falcons (http://www.kffl.com/team/7/nfl) have reached a contract agreement with New York Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) franchise free agent DE John Abraham (http://www.kffl.com/player/1322/nfl) on a multi-year deal, a high-ranking team official and several league sources confirmed. The next step: Reaching a trade agreement with the Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) on appropriate compensation for the standout defensive player. "We're very comfortable with where we are at (with Abraham), and we think he is comfortable, too," one Falcons (http://www.kffl.com/team/7/nfl) official said. "We've got a (contract) deal in place with him. Now we've got to deal with (the Jets)." The addition of QB Patrick Ramsey (http://www.kffl.com/player/1938/nfl) by the Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) may have been a sign that the Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) are now convinced they won't be able to pry QB Matt Schaub (http://www.kffl.com/player/9422/nfl) away from the Falcons (http://www.kffl.com/team/7/nfl) in an Abraham deal.


Jets | Abraham headed to Seattle?
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:15:45 -0800
Adam Schefter, of <A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/156">NFL.com, reports there is speculation the New York Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) have traded DE John Abraham (http://www.kffl.com/player/1322/nfl) to the Seattle Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) for the 31st selection in the upcoming NFL Draft (http://www.kffl.com/link/159). The deal would be contingent on the Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) being able to sign him to a long-term deal.

There's been some talk that the Jets might be trying to position themselves to make a trade with Houston for the chance to draft Reggie Bush. This news certainly fits that theory.

Falcons sign Lawyer Milloy to shore up the crappy safety play Atlanta has been saddled with for a few years.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2372678

ATLANTA -- In a move that addresses the Atlanta Falcons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=atl)' most glaring defensive shortcoming, the team on Friday reached an agreement with unrestricted free-agent safety Lawyer Milloy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3572), who was released by the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) two weeks ago for salary cap reasons.
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Profile (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3572)</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow"> <td align="center"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="190"> <tbody><tr class="stathead" align="center"><td colspan="6" align="center">2005 SEASON STATISTICS</td></tr> <tr style="background: rgb(188, 188, 180) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" align="right"> <td width="17%">Tot</td> <td width="17%">Ast</td> <td width="17%">Solo</td> <td width="17%">FF</td> <td width="17%">Sack</td> <td width="17%">Int</td> </tr> <tr align="right" bgcolor="#999999"> <td>107</td> <td>75</td> <td>32</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <!---------------------INLINE MINI-PLAYER CARD ENDS HERE--------------------> Milloy, 32, will sign a three-year contract, worth $6.01 million, with a signing bonus of $2.5 million and salaries of $810,000, $1 million, and $1.7 million, according to agent Carl Poston, ESPN.com's Michael Smith reports.

Hutchinson Situation Headed to Arbitration (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-seahawks-hutchinson&prov=ap&type=lgns)

This makes more sense to me that it's the clause that will be contested rather than the Seahawks matching all the contract but the clause, then arbitration as to whether he'd then go to Minny or Seattle if that clause is upheld. Provided I'm reading this correctly, the clause will either be deemed a part of the contract the Seahawks have to match or not, then they'd decide whether or not to match the offer.

The last few paragraphs caught my eye though, as it seems like the CBA was amended to prevent this sort of situation from happening. You'd think with such a pointed example to go from that the ruling should come down on Seattle's side, but until it becomes official, I certainly won't be holding my breath.

In 1993, the first year of unrestricted free agency in the NFL, the Indianapolis Colts signed Will Wolford, Buffalo's transition player, to an offer sheet that included a clause that guaranteed he be the team's highest-paid offensive player.

The Bills, who already had quarterback Jim Kelly as their highest-paid offensive player, argued the clause violated the CBA. An arbiter said it did not. The Bills declined to match the offer sheet, and Wolford signed with the Colts to become their highest-paid offensive player.

After that decision, the league and the union amended the CBA. It now states that no team attempting to match an offer sheet for one of its transition players can be required by an escalator clause similar to Wolford's to pay that player more than what the offering team would pay him.

The Lions have signed free agent RB Arlen Harris. to a one year deal

Wheee!

The Lions continue to set the football world aflame with their free agent signings!

The race for John Abraham.

Jets | Falcons reach agreement with Abraham; still need to work out a trade
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:01:22 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/9">ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli (http://www.kffl.com/link/17) reports the Atlanta Falcons (http://www.kffl.com/team/7/nfl) have reached a contract agreement with New York Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) franchise free agent DE John Abraham (http://www.kffl.com/player/1322/nfl) on a multi-year deal, a high-ranking team official and several league sources confirmed. The next step: Reaching a trade agreement with the Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) on appropriate compensation for the standout defensive player. "We're very comfortable with where we are at (with Abraham), and we think he is comfortable, too," one Falcons (http://www.kffl.com/team/7/nfl) official said. "We've got a (contract) deal in place with him. Now we've got to deal with (the Jets)." The addition of QB Patrick Ramsey (http://www.kffl.com/player/1938/nfl) by the Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) may have been a sign that the Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) are now convinced they won't be able to pry QB Matt Schaub (http://www.kffl.com/player/9422/nfl) away from the Falcons (http://www.kffl.com/team/7/nfl) in an Abraham deal.


Jets | Abraham headed to Seattle?
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:15:45 -0800
Adam Schefter, of <A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/156">NFL.com, reports there is speculation the New York Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl) have traded DE John Abraham (http://www.kffl.com/player/1322/nfl) to the Seattle Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) for the 31st selection in the upcoming NFL Draft (http://www.kffl.com/link/159). The deal would be contingent on the Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) being able to sign him to a long-term deal.

Depending on the contract involved, and the ensuing moves to be made (I'd have to assume that Wistrom or Fisher would be cut/dealt shortly), this would be a great move for the Seahawks. I somehow doubt that there'll be a DE available that late in the first round that could come in next year and have the sort of impact that Abraham could provide.

With Milloy now gone, the Free Safety options for the Cowboys have about dried up. I honestly don't know a lot about the couple of players Dallas has signed, although I think there's some upside with them. Overall, though, this FA period has been a failure for Dallas so far if you ask me.

Lose some very good players in Johnson, Glover and Campbell, don't address (yet) areas of need like Kicker and Free Safety and repeated cancerous receiver rumors... Not much for me to be happy about as a Cowboys fan.

John Clayton was on SportsCenter and he said it looks like it is not a question of if but when in regards to an announcement about TO joining the Cowboys. There's no announcement now because Jerry is in the West Indies and Stephen is in Mexico.

With Milloy now gone, the Free Safety options for the Cowboys have about dried up. I honestly don't know a lot about the couple of players Dallas has signed, although I think there's some upside with them. Overall, though, this FA period has been a failure for Dallas so far if you ask me.

Lose some very good players in Johnson, Glover and Campbell, don't address (yet) areas of need like Kicker and Free Safety and repeated cancerous receiver rumors... Not much for me to be happy about as a Cowboys fan.

I don't see Milloy as a Free Safety, he's more of a Strong Safety and that's Roy Williams position. Maybe the Cowboys should think about moving Aaron Glenn to FS and draft a corner.

So the Saints sign Michael Bennett and Anthony Simmons today. Great insurance for Deuce, and I'd assume this puts to rest any thoughts of them trading up to the #1 pick for Reggie.

Simmons is a potentially monstrous pickup IF they get a happy and focused Simmons. The guy was great for Seattle when he wanted to be and it's a shame his locker room presence and personality is the reason he's not lining up beside Tatupu and Hill.

*cries*

enjoy TO blowing up your team Jeebs. GAHH!

I heard that Parcells was planning to convert T.O. to free safety.

I just heard that the Redskins traded Patrick Ramsey to the Jets for a 6th round pick.

Here's a link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2372804

No-lose situation for the Jets, IMHO. I'm very happy about this deal. Now lets unload John Abraham ASAP.

The Falcons on Friday reached an agreement with Abraham on a multi-year contract, a high-ranking team official and several league sources confirmed. The next step: Reaching a trade agreement with the Jets on appropriate compensation for the standout defender.

Seattle, conversely, has finished the second half of the equation, but not the first. Sources involved in the trade negotiations confirmed Friday evening that the Seahawks and Jets have agreed on a compensation package, but that Seattle has not reached an accord with Abraham on a contract. As part of the package, the Seahawks would surrender their first-round choice in the 2006 draft, the 31st pick overall.

The Cowboys sign TE Ryan Hannum (Seahawks) and

Cowboys | Team lands Fabini
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:33:48 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/9">ESPN.com's John Clayton (http://www.kffl.com/link/125) reports the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl) agreed to a three-year, $6 million contract with free agent OT Jason Fabini (http://www.kffl.com/player/1345/nfl) (Jets). Clauses in the contract could grow the deal to $7.5 million over the three years. Fabini will be moved to right tackle with the Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl) and fix one of the team's biggest problems last season.

w00t!

Nice!

Looks like a done deal. TO with the Boys! Makes for good TV. :)

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/pg2/2006/0317/photo/a_owens_195.jpg

He better catch 3 TDs a game.

The last few paragraphs caught my eye though, as it seems like the CBA was amended to prevent this sort of situation from happening. You'd think with such a pointed example to go from that the ruling should come down on Seattle's side, but until it becomes official, I certainly won't be holding my breath.

Well, hopefully the fact that it's not an escalator clause will he.p.

The Cowboys sign TE Ryan Hannum (Seahawks) and

Cowboys | Team lands Fabini
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:33:48 -0800
ESPN.com's (http://www.kffl.com/link/9)John Clayton (http://www.kffl.com/link/125) reports the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl) agreed to a three-year, $6 million contract with free agent OT Jason Fabini (http://www.kffl.com/player/1345/nfl) (Jets). Clauses in the contract could grow the deal to $7.5 million over the three years. Fabini will be moved to right tackle with the Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl) and fix one of the team's biggest problems last season.

w00t!

He's pretty good. As long as you're not expecting a stud, you should be satisfied.

I'm not sure we have any offensive lineman left on the team at this point. :o

He's pretty good. As long as you're not expecting a stud, you should be satisfied.

I'm not sure we have any offensive lineman left on the team at this point. :o

Not expecting a stud, just someone that doesn't suck.

Doesn't the TO signing confirm Dallas' location as a jerk magnet? ;)

There's been some talk that the Jets might be trying to position themselves to make a trade with Houston for the chance to draft Reggie Bush. This news certainly fits that theory.

What, with Houston taking Vince Young?

What, with Houston taking Vince Young?

Naw, I'd imagine Houston takind Fergueson if they made that trade.

Doesn't the TO signing confirm Dallas' location as a jerk magnet? ;)

Yes, I think that it does. I thought Dallas had done a pretty good job of getting away from this image the last couple of years. Despite every troubled player being rumored to be going to the Cowboys, Keyshawn was really the only one that did. And he was pretty much a choir boy in Dallas.

I have to reiterate my disappointment with this one. I think Skip Bayless is actually right. Jones did this because he's bored and wants the attention. Two predictions: 1.) Jones will pay much more than he should have for Owens. And 2.) This will not turn out well.

:(

What makes the situation worst is that the NFLPA put in provisions in the CBA that limits what actions that a team can take. They even made where they can only suspend a player for 4 games, but can't deactivate him for the rest of the season like the Eagles did to TO.

Why, Jerry? WHY?!?!?!?





Just shoot me now, please. :(

*IF* TO can get along with Parcells, this is a GREAT move for the Cowboys IMO.

*IF* TO can get along with Parcells, this is a GREAT move for the Cowboys IMO.

That's what everyone said about TO when he went to Philly. It was true, when all was well, Philly was a great team. He was amazing. Unfortunately, this is just like the story of the scorpion and the frog. TO is going to sting the Cowboys, it's not a matter of if, but when. It's his nature to be that way and they know that.

Naw, I'd imagine Houston takind Fergueson if they made that trade.

Frankly I think that's who Houston really wants, they are just scared of taking him first. They can get value for that 1st pick and an OL to protect Carr.

Frankly I think that's who Houston really wants, they are just scared of taking him first. They can get value for that 1st pick and an OL to protect Carr.

That's who they should want IMO. Their OL was putrid last year and Domanick Davis is a stud RB. If they could pick up another couple of picks, I'd move down too.

Why, Jerry? WHY?!?!?!?





Just shoot me now, please. :(

What you said Jeeber. :(

Well, that sinks football season for me. Time to fall back to the Saints. :(

Well, he's not going to cause any problems for at least a year. I bet most Dallas fans forget all about his idiocy after a couple games.

The only way I see TO not being a problem is if his skills are no longer top notch. You know....like KJ.

What makes the situation worst is that the NFLPA put in provisions in the CBA that limits what actions that a team can take. They even made where they can only suspend a player for 4 games, but can't deactivate him for the rest of the season like the Eagles did to TO.

Do you have further details on this? How can the NFLPA intervene in who a team places on their actice/inactive rosters? That would seem completely ridiculous.

Do you have further details on this? How can the NFLPA intervene in who a team places on their actice/inactive rosters? That would seem completely ridiculous.

Here is the link to the whole article
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9298153

Here is the part in question

A club no longer can discipline a player as Philadelphia did Terrell Owens last season. Under the new agreement, the maximum discipline a team can impose on a player is suspension without pay for four weeks -- in essence, a reversal of the Owens decision of last year. The Eagles suspended the wide receiver for four games then removed him from the team and its premises for the rest of the season. Owens complained but lost when an arbitrator ruled in favor of Philadelphia. In essence, the new agreement means clubs like Philadelphia cannot deactivate players as long-term punishment. They can continue to deactivate them week-to-week, but they cannot -- as Philadelphia did -- remove them for extended periods of time as disciplinary measures

So yes they could make him inactive but they have to allow him to continue to be an active participant of the team.

Thanks, that clears it up. So they can keep making him inactive, but they can't say "don't bother coming to practice" like the Eagles did last year.

I think Skip Bayless is actually right. Jones did this because he's bored and wants the attention. Two predictions: 1.) Jones will pay much more than he should have for Owens. And 2.) This will not turn out well.

:(

Inconceivable, Skip Bayless is never right.

Ernie Accorsi is fiddling.

Prediction: Most of the Cowboy fans that are whining now will be lining up to tongue Owens' sack 12 months from now. Same as happened with Joe Gibbs and the Red4skins fans that were calling for his head 12 months ago.

So, Owens' salary this year is $5 million, and his initial signing bonus was $5 million with roster bonuses of $3 million due in 2007 and 2008...making his cap number this year $6.66 million. Gotta admit, the man's a Beast on the field.

From a Borges article at the Boston Globe:

Speaking of Owens, here's a sample of what you get if you sign him: On his website, he was asked if he preferred a one-year deal with a Super Bowl contender or a longer-term contract with a rebuilding team. Reply? ''DOESN'T MATTER. JUST GETTING TIRED OF JEALOUS TEAMMATES!!! BUT I'M BETTER PREPARED IF THAT HAPPENS . . . WILL B READY 2 BALL OUT THIS YEAR!!"
Yeah, looks like he's come a long way ;).

Prediction: Most of the Cowboy fans that are whining now will be lining up to tongue Owens' sack 12 months from now. Same as happened with Joe Gibbs and the Red4skins fans that were calling for his head 12 months ago.

We need to pool our money together to make sure Jeeber gets his new Owens jersey. :) Those are HOT!!!!

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And I thought it was bad when Jim McMahon became a backup Packer QB. This does seem to be worse in some way to me.

Bengals make a couple of small moves today. They decline to match the Texans' offer to Kevin Walter and they sign Antonio Chatman.

Losing Walter hurts as he might have the best hands on the team, but he was never going to be more than a 4th WR and special teamer for the Bengals. I hope he shines as the Texans' 3rd WR.

I don't know much about Chatman, but he's slated to be the punt returner. He'll almost have to be an upgrade over Ratliff and now Ratliff can focus on developing as a corner.

I read that Chatman works out with Chad and T.J. Houshmandzadeh in the offseason, so he makes good sense there, and is said to have only dropped 1 pass with 49 catches last season as a backup for the Packers. I think that is pretty good output, and he could wind up being a Warrick-like slot receiver for us on 3rd down.

It's the Giants and Dolphins traded CBs:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2375948


The Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) continued their aggressive approach to upgrading their starting lineup by reaching a four-year, $12 million deal with Giants cornerback Will Allen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5469). Included in the deal are guarantees of $5 million. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=2></TD><TD width=65>http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s5469.jpg</TD></TR><TR><TD width=2></TD><TD width=65><CENTER>Allen</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Allen, 27, a five-year starter with the Giants, gives the Dolphins a corner who can also help on run support.


Allen picked the Dolphins over the Seattle Seahawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sea) on Sunday. The Seahawks made a competitive bid that in some ways had a better structure than the Dolphins' offer, but Allen decided to stay on the East Coast instead of moving west. The Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan) also had Allen in for visit.


A native of Syracuse, N.Y., Allen attended Syracuse University and has been on the East Coast all his life. The Giants selected him in the first round of the 2001 draft, 22nd overall.


The signing with the Dolphins was a little ironic because they cut Sam Madison (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3929) to open the starting job Allen has a chance to earn. Madison ended up signing with the Giants and taking Allen's place on their roster.

The Dolphins also reached a $1.5 million a year agreement with Chargers tight end Justin Peelle (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5989). The length of the contract wasn't known.

Enjoy Chatman. I think it is a mistake for the Packers to let him walk.

He is a small guy, and a pretty decent return man. I think he is also a better receiver then given credit for being. At one point you could tell Favre was choosing to go to him last season, which means Favre had trust in him to make plays. Favre doesn't do that with everyone (despite the stats last year).

Chatman stepped up in a bad situation and performed well last year.

Enjoy Chatman. I think it is a mistake for the Packers to let him walk.

He is a small guy, and a pretty decent return man. I think he is also a better receiver then given credit for being. At one point you could tell Favre was choosing to go to him last season, which means Favre had trust in him to make plays. Favre doesn't do that with everyone (despite the stats last year).

Chatman stepped up in a bad situation and performed well last year.

Agreed on all counts. He's a player.

I didn't realize that Chatman was a RFA but the Packers didn't make an offer. As good as his return stats were that's really strange.

I didn't realize that Chatman was a RFA but the Packers didn't make an offer. As good as his return stats were that's really strange.

For some reason the Packers told him early on that they would not make him an offer. I don't know why. Thompson has made me ease up on him a little lately by resigning some guys I like (Kampman, Green, Henderson), but I just don't like some of his moves, like this one.

I can see why they didnt keep Chatman. Since he was undrafted, they would have had to tender him on the 1.75 million(or so) first round compensation tender. And he's probably not worth that much. Had he been a 4th or 5th round pick, they could have tendered him for roughly 700K and kept the right to match, or get compensation.

Since he was undrafted, they would have had to tender him on the 1.75 million(or so) first round compensation tender.
Is that rule for real? That's pretty messed up.

Is that rule for real? That's pretty messed up.


There are 3 compensatory tenders, AFAIK. The lowest compensates you with a pick from the same round as the guy was originally drafted in. This is usually for players drafted in the 3rd round or below, and pays something like 700K this year. To compensate yourself a first rounder for a restricted FA, you offer the mid tender of around 1.7, and for a first and 3rd round compensation, you tender slightly over 2 million.

I think the Packers could have still tried to resign him, but because of the fact that they weren't willing to go with the midlevel tender, he wasn't bound to them at all. To clarify, if they wanted him to remain a restricted FA, they would have to make that 1.7 millionish offer.

There are 3 compensatory tenders, AFAIK. The lowest compensates you with a pick from the same round as the guy was originally drafted in. This is usually for players drafted in the 3rd round or below, and pays something like 700K this year. To compensate yourself a first rounder for a restricted FA, you offer the mid tender of around 1.7, and for a first and 3rd round compensation, you tender slightly over 2 million.

I think the Packers could have still tried to resign him, but because of the fact that they weren't willing to go with the midlevel tender, he wasn't bound to them at all. To clarify, if they wanted him to remain a restricted FA, they would have to make that 1.7 millionish offer.


That's not exactly true. They could have offered him teh loewest tender, and in doing so, he would have remained an RFA that could be signed away by another team for no compensation, but the Packers would still have retained the right to match any contract offer, just like for any RFA.


-Anxiety

That's not exactly true. They could have offered him teh loewest tender, and in doing so, he would have remained an RFA that could be signed away by another team for no compensation, but the Packers would still have retained the right to match any contract offer, just like for any RFA.


-Anxiety

Okay, that makes sense as well.

PRO FOOTBALL
Abraham caught in trade triangle
DE wants to play for Falcons, but Jets agree to Seahawks deal

By STEVE WYCHE (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/mailto:[email protected])
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/20/06 Defensive end John Abraham is intent on playing for the Falcons, his agent, Tony Agnone, confirmed Sunday. The contract agreement he reached Friday with Atlanta and his word are his bond.
But Abraham might not have the final say.
The New York Jets, who own the three-time Pro Bowl selection's rights, have thwarted Abraham's relocation by treating the Falcons' trade offer of a second-round draft pick as insufficient. Instead, the Jets have agreed to trade him to the Seattle Seahawks for a first-round draft choice, and that decision has left Abraham "not happy," according to Agnone.
In a brief e-mail to the Journal-Constitution, Agnone said there had been no developments in the saga over the weekend. He added that there have been no new contract talks between Abraham and the Seahawks, and that Abraham is intent on suiting up for the Falcons.
Atlanta officials said they would not stop their pursuit of Abraham, who has 53 1/2 career sacks and would bolster a defensive line in dire need of a pass-rushing end from the right side. Whether that means they'll have to sweeten their offer to the Jets remains to be seen.
The remarks from Abraham's agent were the first since his
client was placed in football purgatory Friday afternoon.
The tricky part of this scenario is that for any trade to be consummated, Abraham must come to contract terms with the team for which he would play. At the same time, the Jets have the right to get the best compensation possible, which Seattle has offered — 31st overall selection in the April 29-30 draft. The Falcons' second-rounder is the 47th pick overall.
The sign-and-trade stipulation is a result of the Jets designating Abraham, a free agent, their "franchise player," which means they hold his rights for a season unless he's traded.
New York, which is shifting to a 3-4 scheme that would make Abraham an awkward fit, does not have to trade Abraham and could make him play under a one-year contract worth $8.3 million.
Though things were quiet over the weekend, the Falcons confirm talks are expected to resume as soon as today.

This whole Abraham thing is interesting. It seems like the Jets are under the eight-ball if they have a player that doesn't fit their new scheme yet they have to pay $8.3 million. Seattle made the best trade offer, but the Jets are powerless to make the trade without Abraham's agreement, and he claims he only wants to play for Atlanta. If Abraham holds to his "Falcon's only" stance, the Jets have to give, don't they? (Of course, I hope they do).

Atlanta just needs to except a trade of Abraham and Ramsey for Shaub and a 6th round pick. (not a real offer that I have heard of, but is from guys playing GM on NFL Radio the other day and I think it sounds reasonable.)

The Jets wanted Shaub and a 2nd rounder, but then they traded for Ramsey. If they wanted to get roughly equal value to the 31st selection, the Jets could trade their 2nd round pick and Abraham to the Falcons for the Falcons 1st and 4th round selections. Obviously one side or the other or both don't want to come to that agreement.

Sounds to me like Abraham should have played his cards closer to the vest in terms of wanting to end up in Atlanta, since he simultaneously gave the Jets an incentive to hold out for more from the Falcons AND made it more difficult for his chosen team to trade for him on even terms.

The Jets wanted Shaub and a 2nd rounder, but then they traded for Ramsey. If they wanted to get roughly equal value to the 31st selection, the Jets could trade their 2nd round pick and Abraham to the Falcons for the Falcons 1st and 4th round selections. Obviously one side or the other or both don't want to come to that agreement.

I don't think the Falcons are willing to part with that first round pick. Further, why should they? If Abraham really refuses to go to any other team, a second round pick is more than generous. I thought giving them Shaub would have been overpaying. Maybe a 2nd and 5th is about all I'd be willing to give for Abraham, even if that means Seattle gets him.

Sounds to me like Abraham should have played his cards closer to the vest in terms of wanting to end up in Atlanta, since he simultaneously gave the Jets an incentive to hold out for more from the Falcons AND made it more difficult for his chosen team to trade for him on even terms.

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The Jets do not need him or want him.
He is the final arbiter of where he goes.
He says he'll only go to the Falcons.

Given those facts, how does that give the Jets the ability to hold out for more from the Falcons? They can either trade him or pay a bunch of money to a player that doesn't fit their system and doesn't want to be there.

Sad to see Nall go but I figured it would happen. Glad it is not to the Vikings though. BTW, there is some speculation Nall started looking elsewhere because (beng close friends with Favre and having just gone on a hunting trip with him) the he thinks Favre will not be back. He hasn't actually said anything though, just more Favre speculation.

Hope Nall can win the starting job.

Bills add Nall to starting quarterback derbyBy Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com


Further signaling their intentions of throwing open the starting quarterback job for offseason competition, the Buffalo Bills have added a third candidate to the mix, reaching agreement with unrestricted free agent Craig Nall on a three-year contract.


Nall

The four-year veteran played his entire career in Green Bay and, despite appearing in just six games with no starts, was well regarded by Packers coaches and by personnel officials from other teams as well. The financial details of the three-year contract were not immediately available.

Nall, 26, is expected to compete with Buffalo holdovers Kelly Holcomb and J.P. Losman for the starting spot. Losman was the team's first-round choice in the 2004 draft, but there is a new staff and a revamped football structure in Buffalo, and general manager Marv Levy and coach Dick Jauron don't have the same loyalties to him as their predecessors did.

The journeyman Holcomb was signed as a free agent last year and he and Losman split the starts, with eight each. One of the holdover quarterbacks could be released or traded, although Jauron has indicated they would enter camp even on the depth chart and the starter would be determined in the summer.

A fifth-round pick in the 2002 draft, Nall played sparingly, and spent most of his tenure with the Packers as the No. 3 quarterback. But the former Northwestern (La.) State star has good size and a strong arm and, if he plays up to the potential some scouts feel he possesses, he could be a factor in the Bills' competition for the starting job.

First-year Packers coach Mike McCarthy had hoped to retain Nall, but the veteran wanted an opportunity to play, and felt the Buffalo situation offered him that. In Green Bay, whether Brett Favre returns or not for 2006, the Packers have 2005 first-round choice Aaron Rodgers, the perceived heir, on the roster.

In his six regular-season appearances, Nall completed 23 of 33 passes for 314 yards, with four touchdown passes and no interceptions, for a passer efficiency rating of 139.4. He has five rushes for five yards. Nall also played for the Scottish Claymores in the spring of 2003 and led the NFL Europe League in passing.

The Jets hold his rights. They can continue to press for more, and at the very least, play chicken with the Falcons. If they've got the intestinal fortitude, they'll force the Falcons to up the offer. It just depends on how committed they are to it. If I was the Jets, I'd put the screws to him.

The Jets hold his rights. They can continue to press for more, and at the very least, play chicken with the Falcons. If they've got the intestinal fortitude, they'll force the Falcons to up the offer. It just depends on how committed they are to it. If I was the Jets, I'd put the screws to him.


And if I'm the Falcons, I'd call their bluff. They are in the weaker position since the Falcons can just use the money on other needs, but the Jets are stuck with a huge contract for a player that doesn't fit.

right but knowing Abraham isn't going to seattle kills any chance the falcons give up a #1 for him.

Falcons hold all the cards since they don't have to do anything Jets kind of have to move this guy.

And if I'm the Falcons, I'd call their bluff. They are in the weaker position since the Falcons can just use the money on other needs, but the Jets are stuck with a huge contract for a player that doesn't fit.

Indeed. Abraham doesn't want to go with Hawks or anyone else, meaning he won't do a sign and trade, meaning the Jets have to cough up the dough for a guy that won't fit in their system. On the other hand, he will do a sign and trade to the Falcons.

I think the Jets end up dealing Abraham for a 2nd and 5th in the end.

What's the chances this is more of a power play by Abraham to get a bigger contract from Seattle? I'm sure it's true that he'd rather be close to South Carolina, but how many athletes refuse more money (assuming Seattle steps up and makes a better contract offer than Atlanta was offering)?

What's the chances this is more of a power play by Abraham to get a bigger contract from Seattle? I'm sure it's true that he'd rather be close to South Carolina, but how many athletes refuse more money (assuming Seattle steps up and makes a better contract offer than Atlanta was offering)?


There is a strong possibility there. It is also possible that Seattle knew they weren't going to pay Abraham what he wants, and the offer of the 1st was just to screw up the deal with the Falcons. Lots of behind-the-scenes possibilities.

I guess we'll find out about the Hutchinson decision later today, but if I'm the Seahawks and we win the arbitration case, I'd talk to the Vikings and see what they'd be willing to trade to get Hutch. It seems like maybe Hutch doesn't want to be in Seattle that much, and the Seahawks could certainly use that money that would be tied up with him to land Julian Peterson and perhaps wave enough money at John Abraham to get him to change his mind.

I'd be very surprised if the Seahawks don't bring Hutch back if they win the ruling. Heck, I still hope they match even if they don't win the ruling. Keeping that line together is worth much more to the team than adding an expensive guy who may not bring his A game with him (Abraham) or a guy coming off a subpar year due to injury (Peterson).

Adding Abraham would pretty much necessitate moving Fisher while Peterson would at least be stepping into a hole (that could be addressed in the first or second round of the draft potentially), but there's nobody on the roster or in the draft that Seattle would have a shot at that could come close to stepping into Hutchinson's role, let alone the chemistry he has with Jones which makes them both that much better.

It seems like maybe Hutch doesn't want to be in Seattle that much
I haven't been able to follow this situation as closely as I'd like...what makes you say this?

I haven't been able to follow this situation as closely as I'd like...what makes you say this?
I'm still trying to track down the articles intimating this, but I've seen reports that indicate Hutch wasn't all that happy with the Seahawks leading up him signing the offer sheet with Minnesota. I also think his willingness to sign that offer sheet with the poison pill included is a sign that he wasn't all that interested in the Seahawks being able to match it.

I'd be very surprised if the Seahawks don't bring Hutch back if they win the ruling. Heck, I still hope they match even if they don't win the ruling. Keeping that line together is worth much more to the team than adding an expensive guy who may not bring his A game with him (Abraham) or a guy coming off a subpar year due to injury (Peterson).

Adding Abraham would pretty much necessitate moving Fisher while Peterson would at least be stepping into a hole (that could be addressed in the first or second round of the draft potentially), but there's nobody on the roster or in the draft that Seattle would have a shot at that could come close to stepping into Hutchinson's role, let alone the chemistry he has with Jones which makes them both that much better.
Hutch is a fantastic guard, but when you have Walter Jones on your outside shoulder you're going to look better than you really are.

What's the bigger difference - the dropoff from Hutch to Pork Chop at LG or the gain in adding guys like Julian Peterson, Nate Burleson, John Abraham, Ty Law, etc? Keeping Hutch (if we win the arbitration) puts a crimp on spending this year as it sounds like he counts for $13M against the cap this year.

I'd at least talk to Minnesota to see what they'd offer in return for Hutch in case we win the arbitration.

For some reason the Packers told him early on that they would not make him an offer. I don't know why. Thompson has made me ease up on him a little lately by resigning some guys I like (Kampman, Green, Henderson), but I just don't like some of his moves, like this one.

McCarthy has said that he wants bigger receivers, so that might be why. Still, I wish they would've re-upped with Chatman. He can play.

Sad to see Nall go but I figured it would happen. Glad it is not to the Vikings though. BTW, there is some speculation Nall started looking elsewhere because (beng close friends with Favre and having just gone on a hunting trip with him) the he thinks Favre will not be back. He hasn't actually said anything though, just more Favre speculation.

I had heard exactly the opposite - that Nall was leaving because he thought Favre would be back. Nall wanted the opportunity to start, but with Favre back that wouldn't happen. With Favre gone, he would've gotten to compete with Rodgers, which would've been more attractive to Nall. Or so I'd read somewhere (I can't remember where).

Interesting that everybody wants to read something into Nall's signing though. :)

Hutch is a fantastic guard, but when you have Walter Jones on your outside shoulder you're going to look better than you really are.

What's the bigger difference - the dropoff from Hutch to Pork Chop at LG or the gain in adding guys like Julian Peterson, Nate Burleson, John Abraham, Ty Law, etc? Keeping Hutch (if we win the arbitration) puts a crimp on spending this year as it sounds like he counts for $13M against the cap this year.

I'd at least talk to Minnesota to see what they'd offer in return for Hutch in case we win the arbitration.

I agree. He's a great player, but considering the rest of the line I think they'd be better off filling in with a lesser quality player there and addressing needs in other areas.

Jones at LT, 'nuff said. Hutch at LG, as said by Jones, makes both of them better. They're at the point where they hardly communicate presnap because they're comfortable enough with each other's games to know what the other will do, almost an o-line version of Manning/Harrison.

At center you have Tobeck, who's still playing well but gets in trouble against bigger, stronger tackles. Under him is Chris Spencer, a guy who supposedly has all the tools, but needs to grow and learn, hopefully quickly as I can't imagine Tobeck has more than a year or two left in him.

At right guard we have a nice big question mark. Keep Hutch and you can likely pencil in Pork Chop at this spot. Chris Gray did a nice job last year, but would be better suited to backing up. One downside to starting Floyd is that while he looks like he could become a very accomplished every down player, he was invaluable as a backup at pretty much both guard and tackle positions.

RT has Locklear who came out of nowhere last year to be very good. Looks promising, with some off the field problems. Again, any problems here last year and Womack would have been inserted.

Seahawks have a great looking line, with a nice combination of youth and experience, with a potentially nice hand off going on at the center position. While Jones absolutely dominates during the passing game, Hutchinson is the one absolutely blowing people up in the running game. I think Walter is the best LT in football, but I think Hutch is good enough to make Walter better than he is as well. The two have developed into a pairing that elevates both their play, and while we'd still have a very good line without him, it would affect depth, drafting strategy, play calling and a lot of other areas that had been taken for granted last year.

One reason I think it's been said that Hutch may want out is because it was his agent and not the Vikings that introduced the poison pill into the contract. This after the Seahawks transition tagged him so that he'd get an offer that both sides figured would establish his fair market value comes across like a stab in the back (my pardons to Shaun Alexander) in the process.

As for the question of filling other areas, that's definitely valid. But would losing Hutchinson leave us with a bigger hole at guard than we have at DE? We have two starter calibre guys at DE, though neither is necessarily the pass rusher you'd like.

We need another outside linebacker, and if you don't get a pass rusher at DE this offseason, probably a trait you'd like in whoever they get to add to Tatupu and Hill (though Hill looks pretty good on the blitz). Peterson would seem to fit this to a "T", but there are a lot of questions as to whether or not you'd be getting the player you pay for, or just the name. It's possible that they could draft a guy in the first 3 rounds to fill out that last linebacker position (or at least provide some stiff competition in camp for it).

Personally, I think our #2 CB situation is more dire (would have preferred Dyson to Herndon, he just seemed to get beat way too often) as well as special teams. If Warrick was resigned to do return duty rather than Williams, then fine, we can wait and see, but returns, punting and coverage cost us a lot of yards last year. And this offense, behind the best left side in football, consistently (until the Superbowl of course) ate up those yards. Imagine how successful they could have been starting at the 35 or 40 yard line rather than inside their own 15 all year.

There seem to be some good quality corners still on the market (and at least they seem to be looking at them even though they lost out on Allen), but trading for a second tier pass rushing DE or signing a potential breakout or bust LB doesn't seem like good justification to lose a top 3 guard to me.

Valid points. I guess my issue is do we want to establish a new benchmark for G pay if the guy doesn't really want to be here, especially when we could use that money to fill other holes?

I'd have two conversations - one with Hutch to see if he still wants to play in Seattle, and the other with Minnesota to see what they'd offer for him in a trade so you know what your options are.

Losing Hutch would have a chain reaction effect on the line, no question. But there's no reason we couldn't draft a G to add to our depth, and I'm still not convinced that the dropoff from Hutch to Womack would be huge.

In the hearing this morning before Special Master Stephen Burbank, the Seahawks announced that they had re-worked the contract of left tackle Walter Jones, which would make Hutchinson the highest paid offensive lineman on the team as it currently stands. But, the players association spokesman has argued that the NFL calendar year began March 11 and the change in salary cap after the NFL fiscal year began.

Heh, this is kind of funny. Not sure how the contract is laid out or how long Jones would be paid less than Hutchinson, but good on the Seahawks for at least throwing a curveball at the Vikings. Whether or not it works is a different story I guess.

The way this is being reported on ESPN now...Hutchinson will remain in Seattle.

Seattle is claiming to have added an 8th, voidable year to Walt Jones' deal, making his yearly pay about $6.81 mil, so it would have been less than the average of $7 mil per Hutchinson would make under the Vikings offer sheet.

So, even if the provision is upheld, the Seahawks would be off the hook from guaranteeing the total amount of the deal.

At least for now...who knows 3-4 years down the road if they try restructuring either or both of those guys.

This move guarantees a repeat title in the 'Burgh.

Steelers | L. Mays signed
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:28:25 -0800
Steelers.com reports the Pittsburgh Steelers have signed free agent WR Lee Mays (Steelers) to a one-year contract. Financial terms of the deal were not released.

There you go Jeebs, a Miner with a job. Mays is like a case of Herpes, just when you think he's gone, and you won't see him again, he flares up out of nowhere.

This move guarantees a repeat title in the 'Burgh.

Steelers | L. Mays signed
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:28:25 -0800
Steelers.com reports the Pittsburgh Steelers have signed free agent WR Lee Mays (Steelers) to a one-year contract. Financial terms of the deal were not released.

There you go Jeebs, a Miner with a job. Mays is like a case of Herpes, just when you think he's gone, and you won't see him again, he flares up out of nowhere.

Any word what Chris Doering is up to nowadays?

Valid points. I guess my issue is do we want to establish a new benchmark for G pay if the guy doesn't really want to be here, especially when we could use that money to fill other holes?

I'd have two conversations - one with Hutch to see if he still wants to play in Seattle, and the other with Minnesota to see what they'd offer for him in a trade so you know what your options are.

Losing Hutch would have a chain reaction effect on the line, no question. But there's no reason we couldn't draft a G to add to our depth, and I'm still not convinced that the dropoff from Hutch to Womack would be huge.

Can't make a trade - the CBA prevents the offering of compensation to prevent a guy being matched. That being said, Seattle really should have just franchised the guy - but oh well.

The Lions have signed UFA guard/tackle Rex Tucker (St. Louis) to a three year deal.

http://www.detroitlions.com/press_releases.cfm?section_id=10&top=1&level=2

A necessary move. The Lions are sorely lacking any sort of depth up front. Their offensive line is horrible. Not sure if this will help much or if Rex was just brought in for depth. Based on my recollection of the Ram's o-line, I reckon it will be the latter.

One further note in the arguement to keep Hutchinson. I don't doubt Porkchop could do a heckuva job at LG, but there'd be a dropoff there from Hutch, as well as creating a dropoff at RG. That was our weakest spot on the line last year, and one I thought they'd have Womack step up and fill this season. Move him to LG and you're now looking for a new answer at RG which would likely result in a dropoff from what Womack would have provided there.

So instead of an increase in the playing level at one spot, you'd have a potential drop off at two spots. With a defense like Seattle's, keeping them off the field through good ball control offense is probably better for them than adding a Peterson or Abraham. Keep them fresh and watch them cause some havoc.

The way this is being reported on ESPN now...Hutchinson will remain in Seattle.

Seattle is claiming to have added an 8th, voidable year to Walt Jones' deal, making his yearly pay about $6.81 mil, so it would have been less than the average of $7 mil per Hutchinson would make under the Vikings offer sheet.

So, even if the provision is upheld, the Seahawks would be off the hook from guaranteeing the total amount of the deal.

What I'm hearing now is that the Special Master ruling was that Hutchinson would have to be the highest paid as of the signing date on the offer sheet, so even with the resturcturing of Jones Seattle would still need to guarantee the whole $49 million.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjxdVV5NJWxfF7Q5ignUR1GW2bYF?slug=ap-seahawks-hutchinson&prov=ap&type=lgns (Hutchinson Likely a Viking)

SEATTLE (AP) -- The Seahawks must match the guarantee provision in the $49 million, seven-year deal offered to All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson by the Minnesota Vikings if the NFC champions want to keep their transition player.

An attorney for the NFL's players' union confirmed Monday that a special master ruled against Seattle, saying a provision guaranteeing all of the $49 million in an offer sheet Hutchinson signed with Minnesota should he not be the team's highest-paid offensive lineman is valid.

ADVERTISEMENT"The Seahawks lost," NFL Players Association general counsel Richard Berthelsen said Monday.

League spokesman Michael Signora said Monday evening that the Seahawks had until midnight (EST) Monday EST to match the Vikings offer or lose Hutchinson to Minnesota.

Berthelsen attended a two-hour hearing Monday morning in Philadelphia on the matter.

The Vikings' seven-year offer, which Hutchinson signed on March 12, included $16 million guaranteed. It would be the richest deal ever given to a guard. And Monday's ruling means it just got richer.

The Seahawks had argued Monday morning that because they have recently re-negotiated Pro Bowl left tackle Walter Jones' $54.5 million, seven-year contract by adding an eighth, voidable year, Jones' team-best lineman deal now has an annual value below that of Hutchinson's offer.

After the re-negotiation, Jones' annual base salary would dip to $6.81 million -- just below Hutchinson's $7 million annual average if Seattle matched Minnesota's offer. The Seahawks argued Monday morning, they should not have to guarantee the rest of Hutchinson's new deal.

Berthelsen said special master Stephen Burbank did not elaborate in his ruling.

But Berthelsen said the decision validated the NFLPA's stance that the conditions at the time Hutchinson signed the offer sheet with the Vikings are the conditions Seattle must match -- meaning Hutchinson wasn't the highest-paid Seahawks linemen then, so Seattle must guarantee all $49 million of the Vikings' deal to match it.

"They wanted to put in additional language to make it from any point from now until the end of the 2006 league year," Berthelsen said. "That is contrary to the intent of the wording that was in the contract.

"And the special master agreed."

The Seahawks did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

3 Strikes for the Seahawks on this one

1: Transition Tagging him instead of Franchising. Try to show a little fairness to let a guy go after a big payday while basically assuring him that you'll match it no matter the contract

2: Special Master rules in favor of the poison pill put in by Hutchinson's agent

3: Special Master rules that the Seahawks restructuring of Jones' contract, while done prior to the ruling, had to be done prior to Hutchinson signing the contract offer from Minnesota for the clause to kick in.

Here's hoping that McKinnie resigns for $7.1 a year when his contract comes up and the Vikings are forced to live with this contract rather than redoing his deal at that time. No way Seattle should be forced to match it and hand over $49 million if the Vikings can turn around and redo the deal once it looks like one of their linemen will want more per season.

I'll be glad if this works out for the Vikings, but I'd be shocked if this kind of move isn't outlawed by the NFL in the very near future.

Can't make a trade - the CBA prevents the offering of compensation to prevent a guy being matched. That being said, Seattle really should have just franchised the guy - but oh well.
It appears to be a moot point now since the arbiter doubly screwed the Seahawks, but there's no reason, had the Seahawks matched the offer for Hutch, that they then couldn't have turned around and traded him.