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cartman
10-14-2013, 12:41 PM
The first half of the season is over. Still a lot of football left to be played. Here are the matchups of Top 25 teams this weekend:

Florida State at Clemson
Auburn at Texas A&M
UCLA at Stanford
Florida at Missouri

Matthean
10-14-2013, 01:23 PM
Indiana vs. Michigan will be interesting. Indiana can score but are poor on defense. Being at home, Michigan should win, but I'm not sure I put anything past a team with a QB on pace to turn the ball over 20+ times and a running game that just finished with less than a yard per carry, and I'm not sure if they have averaged 4 ypc in a game yet. If a loss comes, it could get ugly since MSU, Nebraska, and NW are next with two of them on the road.

'Bama continues Bielema's "Welcome to the SEC" tour.

Kodos
10-14-2013, 01:34 PM
Which will give? Michigan's turnover machine, or Indiana's no-takeaways D?

I'd like to say we have a chance, but pessimism is slowly winning the battle...

Kodos
10-14-2013, 01:37 PM
'Bama continues Bielema's "Welcome to the SEC" tour.

It's a shame to see someone beat him by 45....

mauchow
10-14-2013, 03:10 PM
It's a shame to see someone beat him by 45....

I've never been more thrilled to have that douchebag lose like he is.

I am thankful for him though..he brought Wisconsin to the next level and left and we got a better coach and person. A good return.

mauchow
10-14-2013, 03:12 PM
I'm heading to Wisconsin @ Illinois, one of the few games that Wisconsin could have trouble with. The other being at Iowa.

I am pumped

clemsonfan
10-14-2013, 04:18 PM
Can't wait for Saturday! I just made my Gameday poster:

Pulling a Clemson: Getting Gameday in the Valley Twice in a year!

tarcone
10-14-2013, 04:21 PM
Iowa is going to get abused Saturday. Not sure what else to say. Except, when is the Purdue game?

dawgfan
10-14-2013, 09:30 PM
Critical game for Washington as they travel to Tempe this weekend. Beat ASU, and they are still on track for a very strong season. Lose, and the Husky fanbase starts getting pretty ticked-off at the progress under Sark.

Butter
10-15-2013, 06:54 AM
I am thankful for him though..he brought Wisconsin to the next level and left and we got a better coach and person. A good return.

I would say the jury is still out on that one.

MacroGuru
10-15-2013, 08:10 AM
BYU travels to Houston this Saturday...and I get to watch the game on....ESPN NEWS? WTH?

Anyways, our sloppy losses to UVA and Utah hurt right now....

CU Tiger
10-15-2013, 08:15 AM
Can't wait for Saturday! I just made my Gameday poster:

Pulling a Clemson: Getting Gameday in the Valley Twice in a year!

Ha! Love it.
Going to be a wild weekend for sure.

Our group has:

"I pulled a Clowney, but my friends carried me here"

#3 > #7

Hey Clowney if you can read this...OH Nevermind

BYU 14
10-15-2013, 08:22 AM
BYU travels to Houston this Saturday...and I get to watch the game on....ESPN NEWS? WTH?

Anyways, our sloppy losses to UVA and Utah are hurt right now....

No doubt, we should be 6-0!!

Logan
10-15-2013, 11:31 AM
As if our secondary wasn't thin enough already, Rutgers just had a starting CB quit the team to pursue a baseball career.

Ugh.

clemsonfan
10-15-2013, 12:24 PM
Ha! Love it.
Going to be a wild weekend for sure.

Our group has:

"I pulled a Clowney, but my friends carried me here"

#3 > #7

Hey Clowney if you can read this...OH Nevermind


Don't forget to bring your megaphones! I am making four of them tonight!

Chief Rum
10-15-2013, 12:36 PM
UCLA-Stanford should be a tough brawl of a game. The Furd will be angry at losing to Utah and will be playing at home, while UCLA will have revenge on their minds from losing twice to Stanford last year.

I think Stanford takes a close one because UCLA, despite being 5-0, has yet to truly put together the complete game they will need to beat a team as strong as the Furd.

Thomkal
10-15-2013, 02:16 PM
Coastal Carolina has set a Big South record with their #4 ranking in the polls. Still undefeated after dismantling a surprising Gardner-Webb team 44-7 that was in the polls themselves a couple weeks ago, they take on one of their conference rivals, Liberty this week, on the road.

Liberty has certainly had CCU's number the past few seasons, and battled for the Big South conference title the last two years. Coastal is 1-4 at Liberty, so they don't play particularly well there.

dawgfan
10-15-2013, 03:13 PM
UCLA-Stanford should be a tough brawl of a game. The Furd will be angry at losing to Utah and will be playing at home, while UCLA will have revenge on their minds from losing twice to Stanford last year.

I think Stanford takes a close one because UCLA, despite being 5-0, has yet to truly put together the complete game they will need to beat a team as strong as the Furd.
What's the injury situation with UCLA? James still out? I know the LT is done for the season. Anyone else hurting and possibly out?

Chief Rum
10-15-2013, 03:23 PM
What's the injury situation with UCLA? James still out? I know the LT is done for the season. Anyone else hurting and possibly out?

Mora's standard response to all injury inquiries is a hockey-esque "fine", as has been much joked about on BRO. So there isn't much yet coming out about James.

Word is that as of yesterday, James was still in a walking boot. I have to think he will not be playing on Saturday unfortunately.

The impact of losing James is tough to measure. He is clearly the best back because he is so versatile and by far the best blocking back on the team. But when it comes to actually running the ball, there is little drop off from him to Paul Perkins, and UCLA has a ton of depth at the position. Plus, they could also use firespark Damian Thigpen as well, a very athletic back who would give Stanford's D issues on swing passes and the like. Thigpen was actually Franklin's backup last year, not James.

It's losing White which could hurt. His replacement Bennenoch is a true FR and he is playing next to another true FR in Redmond. They are both tremendously talented, but we're talking true FR here on one side of the line, against an uber-experienced and talented front seven for the Furd. That is really rough going.

Outside of those spots, the Bruins are pretty healthy. Ellis McCarthy might not play, but his replacement Eddie Vanderdoes is almost certainly better than he is anyway. Cassius Marsh might still get suspended by the Pac 12 for his stupid punch Saturday night. No word yet.

But the D-line mostly holds the pocket in place, while the Bruins' awesome LB corps goes nuts, and those guys (Barr, Jack, etc.) are all very much healthy. That will be Stanford's challenge, to stop those guys.

MacroGuru
10-15-2013, 03:48 PM
Les Miles has a Columbus day message for you!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/2GkJ-AxiMIg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Mizzou B-ball fan
10-16-2013, 09:51 AM
Looks like James Franklin has had a change of mind regarding taking cortisone shots. Last year, he cited personal religious reasons for not taking certain treatments that would have accelerated his healing. This year, he has decided to take all treatments offered to help heal up his shoulder sprain. Pinkel said he's likely out 2-3 weeks but expected to be back for the stretch run.

panerd
10-16-2013, 10:10 AM
Looks like James Franklin has had a change of mind regarding taking cortisone shots. Last year, he cited personal religious reasons for not taking certain treatments that would have accelerated his healing. This year, he has decided to take all treatments offered to help heal up his shoulder sprain. Pinkel said he's likely out 2-3 weeks but expected to be back for the stretch run.

Looks like 6-0 may bend his religious faith a little more than 3-4 huh? :)

You going down this weekend? I can't wait!

Mizzou B-ball fan
10-16-2013, 10:46 AM
Looks like 6-0 may bend his religious faith a little more than 3-4 huh? :)

You going down this weekend? I can't wait!

Can't make it. Have some huge events at work that require my attention. But all the TV's will be tuned to the game.

I think Maty will be fine on Saturday. He's going to make a couple of mistakes, but Florida has a helluva time scoring on offense even if you give them a chance. Florida's defense may need to score two touchdowns to win this game on Saturday, which isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

panerd
10-16-2013, 11:58 AM
Can't make it. Have some huge events at work that require my attention. But all the TV's will be tuned to the game.

I think Maty will be fine on Saturday. He's going to make a couple of mistakes, but Florida has a helluva time scoring on offense even if you give them a chance. Florida's defense may need to score two touchdowns to win this game on Saturday, which isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

Yeah you may have one of the worst jobs somebody could have for college football. Saturday has to be your busiest day.

Matthean
10-16-2013, 12:18 PM
So very much this.

Brady Hoke Is Both The Greatest And Most Frustrating Thing To Ever Happen To Michigan Fans (http://www.buzzfeed.com/bml/why-brady-hoke-is-both-the-greatest-and-most-frustrating-thi)

Butter
10-17-2013, 06:41 AM
As an Ohio State fan, I continue to give the Brady Hoke hire my highest endorsement. Keep on being a "Michigan man" Brady, while the college football world whips by you. Keep fighting the good fight.

Logan
10-17-2013, 09:54 AM
Always enjoy stuff from Paul Lukas and this is another great behind-the-scenes type read:

Uni Watch - Explosion of college football helmets - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9829911/uni-watch-explosion-college-football-helmets)

Matthean
10-17-2013, 10:05 AM
Michigan-UCLA home-and-home 2022-2023. In other words, don't expect that to stick. :D

Chief Rum
10-17-2013, 12:09 PM
Michigan-UCLA home-and-home 2022-2023. In other words, don't expect that to stick. :D

Why? Because it is so far in the future?

Matthean
10-17-2013, 02:15 PM
Why? Because it is so far in the future?

Basically. MSU and 'Bama had a series set up as well and then was cancelled this year due to 'Bama's future scheduling issues with all that is going on in the SEC. I'm just not willing to get too excited about something that is nearly a decade away. Hopefully it is a night game though since Michigan is really wanting to add more of those.

Matthean
10-18-2013, 09:35 AM
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CU Tiger
10-18-2013, 12:10 PM
WTF??!?

britrock88
10-18-2013, 02:27 PM
Wow. I had no idea what was in store there.

MJ4H
10-18-2013, 03:20 PM
That is the greatest thing I've ever seen.

cartman
10-18-2013, 03:28 PM
Wait, I thought Daivd stopped work on Maximum-Football 3.0???!!?

MJ4H
10-18-2013, 03:29 PM
haha 1:12 - 1:14 absolutely destroyed me.

JonInMiddleGA
10-18-2013, 03:30 PM
Awesomeness.

Chief Rum
10-18-2013, 03:46 PM
Okay, that was two minutes of my life I am glad to dedicate to that video. Stupid hilariousness.

Solecismic
10-18-2013, 05:24 PM
Michigan-UCLA home-and-home 2022-2023. In other words, don't expect that to stick. :D

Why not? I thought there was a directive within the Big Ten and the Pac 12 to set these home-and-homes.

Interesting stuff with the Grambling football program. The players have refused to travel to their next game. The interim coach was fired. They're on a 17-game losing streak. The athletics budget is pretty much gone. But it's Grambling. Hard to imagine the FCS without Grambling.

What do you do when your players are convinced that a bus ride renders you non-competitive on the road, but your budget simply won't support a plane charter?

Lathum
10-18-2013, 06:51 PM
Louisville better not sleep on UCF.

MrBug708
10-18-2013, 06:59 PM
Basically. MSU and 'Bama had a series set up as well and then was cancelled this year due to 'Bama's future scheduling issues with all that is going on in the SEC. I'm just not willing to get too excited about something that is nearly a decade away. Hopefully it is a night game though since Michigan is really wanting to add more of those.

The cancelling would probably be on Michigan's end if it does happen

BishopMVP
10-18-2013, 09:51 PM
Louisville better not sleep on UCF.Didn't look like they did... until Storm Johnson took over and UCF scored 3 TD's in 4 minutes here to tie it at 28 going into the 4th.

I'm hoping Louisville pulls it out, and Houston keeps winning so we can have 2 undefeated "BCS Conference" teams playing in mid-November in a completely irrelevant game. :D

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 02:16 AM
What do you do when your players are convinced that a bus ride renders you non-competitive on the road, but your budget simply won't support a plane charter?

You find players capable of grasping reality.

Vince, Pt. II
10-19-2013, 04:39 AM
That video was incredible. Was it by the same group who did the Giants/Tigers thing last year for the World Series?

Matthean
10-19-2013, 08:00 AM
Was it by the same group who did the Giants/Tigers thing last year for the World Series?

Yep.

Bigsmooth
10-19-2013, 11:00 AM
Wow, Corso.

cartman
10-19-2013, 11:01 AM
That might have been the greatest "Corso's Pick" in history. Bill Murray is awesome.

Suicane75
10-19-2013, 11:02 AM
So the name Redskins is racist, but that Corso bit..........

HerRealName
10-19-2013, 11:05 AM
Mizzou - Florida isn't even televised? How did ESPN screw this up?

cartman
10-19-2013, 11:06 AM
Mizzou - Florida isn't even televised? How did ESPN screw this up?

Clearly the blame lies at the feet of DeLoss Dodds and the Longhorn Network.

Matthean
10-19-2013, 11:07 AM
So the name Redskins is racist, but that Corso bit..........

I'll have to wait for it to go online.

HerRealName
10-19-2013, 11:11 AM
Clearly the blame lies at the feet of DeLoss Dodds and the Longhorn Network.

:lol: DAMN YOU DODDS!

mckerney
10-19-2013, 11:15 AM
Clearly the blame lies at the feet of DeLoss Dodds and the Longhorn Network.

DAMN YOU TEXAS, WHY MUST YOUR JEALOUSY OF MISSOURI CONTINUE TO HARM PEOPLE?

Suicane75
10-19-2013, 11:15 AM
Mizzou - Florida isn't even televised? How did ESPN screw this up?

It's on MSG in NY which means it's on some sort of network being distributed.

Matthean
10-19-2013, 11:15 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/IaDBaZmXkLg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cartman
10-19-2013, 11:17 AM
Did Oklahoma State steal Clemson's uniforms? That doesn't look like their normal color.

Bigsmooth
10-19-2013, 11:17 AM
Florida/Mizz is on ESPN3, too.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 11:56 AM
Mizzou - Florida isn't even televised? How did ESPN screw this up?

Got it here on the local SEC Network affiliate (i.e. the package syndicated to local stations in various markets).

Lathum
10-19-2013, 12:16 PM
Vandys kicker is getting laid tonight

Matthean
10-19-2013, 12:25 PM
Anytime I talk myself into how good MSU could be they remind me how wrong I am. 7-0 at half against Purdue with the lone TD being from their defense.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 12:32 PM
Tennessee giving SC hell in Knoxville (17-7 late 1st half)
Georgia just got a pick six to go back in front of Vandy 17-14

And WTF, Georgia Tech leads Syracuse 21-0 middle Q2.

C'mon Vandy, step it up !

Matthean
10-19-2013, 12:45 PM
I don't know what to make of SC and Tenn as teams. Its like the rest of the SEC East is going, "No really, we want Missouri to go to the SEC title game."

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 12:47 PM
I don't know what to make of SC and Tenn as teams. Its like the rest of the SEC East is going, "No really, we want Missouri to go to the SEC title game."

ABG ... Anybody But Georgia :D

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 12:51 PM
Somebody told Vandy they were, well, Vandy.

DAMMIT :(

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 12:53 PM
Mizzou D just nearly decaffeinated the Florida QB. Thus ends Florida's longest drive of the day thus far: 22 yards.

MJ4H
10-19-2013, 01:01 PM
What the hell on that Georgia player being ejected for targeting? Am I missing it, his head wasn't even touched? I mean, if it was, barely?

This Is The Worst Targeting Call Of The College Football Season (http://deadspin.com/this-is-the-worst-targeting-call-of-the-college-footbal-1448364296)

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:01 PM
28-0 GT over Syracuse at the half.

'Cuse just 105 yards total offense (9 of that on the final two plays of the half)
GT 197 yards total: 197 rushing, 0 passing (0/2)

cuervo72
10-19-2013, 01:03 PM
But hey, the ACC is better for them. Can't be denied!

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:03 PM
3 SEC games this afternoon, each with a targeting penalty ejection (all on visiting players btw)

Florida lost a defender on the first play of the game at Mizzou, the Georgia one has been discussed on my wall aplenty already, and SC lost one in the opening drive in Knoxville.

The phrase "point of emphasis" comes to mind, almost as though the officials might have been told to be sure to find one to call.

MrBug708
10-19-2013, 01:05 PM
What the hell on that Georgia player being ejected for targeting? Am I missing it, his head wasn't even touched? I mean, if it was, barely?

This Is The Worst Targeting Call Of The College Football Season (http://deadspin.com/this-is-the-worst-targeting-call-of-the-college-footbal-1448364296)

Easy call. Targeting doesn't mean helmet to helmet, it means using any part of your body . When the QB is falling backwards all you see is forearm coming off the helmet.

He is a pretty good description of targeting being discussed to outrage over a penalty even being called

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/oPpjQvRekkQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cuervo72
10-19-2013, 01:05 PM
(Maybe folks like Marmel just meant that the rest of the ACC will have better records with Syracuse joining the conference. *shurg*)

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:13 PM
With this explanation of the targeting rule (from a Mike Perriera column)

• No player shall target and initiate contact vs. opponent with the crown of his helmet.

• No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent.

then the ejection in the Georgia game does appear to be correct by rule. It's the shoulder & forearm that get him, no helmet-to-helmet required.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:18 PM
Y'know, college football is a funny thing.

The same QB I spent hours screaming for a few weeks ago, is the one I screaming against today.

I doubt Connor Shaw really cares much either way, but I thought it was interesting to think about that.

SirFozzie
10-19-2013, 01:24 PM
Mizzou D just nearly decaffeinated the Florida QB. Thus ends Florida's longest drive of the day thus far: 22 yards.

Either you mean decapitated, or you're trying to say he got the coffee beans knocked out of him? ;)

MJ4H
10-19-2013, 01:26 PM
Yes, I understand what targeting is and isn't. I don't see any hitting of the head or neck in that video. Am I just not looking closely enough? Are you guys telling me his head/neck is being hit?

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/193pfevfo0ucigif/ku-xlarge.gif

Also, why does the ref pull out the flag before it even happens?

To me, it literally looks like he just ran into him and pushed him.

Julio Riddols
10-19-2013, 01:32 PM
I think he was referring to the Florida QB's penchant for pre-game java.

Julio Riddols
10-19-2013, 01:33 PM
Also, yeah.. That ref pulling the flag before the hit even happened? Little weird.. Although the defensive player clearly took another step and made a forceful hit on the QB well after the ball was thrown.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:34 PM
"Decaffeinated" 'sted "decapitated" is borrowed from a joke by a popular regional comedian named Milton Crabapple.

I actually worked with him at a radio station years back, got permission to steal whatever I wanted as long as I gave him 50% of whatever it earned me :)

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:35 PM
Yes, I understand what targeting is and isn't. I don't see any hitting of the head or neck in that video.

You don't see the left shoulder pad impacting the facemask/side of the head?

MrBug708
10-19-2013, 01:36 PM
Yes, I understand what targeting is and isn't. I don't see any hitting of the head or neck in that video. Am I just not looking closely enough? Are you guys telling me his head/neck is being hit?

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/193pfevfo0ucigif/ku-xlarge.gif

Also, why does the ref pull out the flag before it even happens?

To me, it literally looks like he just ran into him and pushed him.

Look at the players arms coming up. In full speed, it's easy to see where the arms are, which are coming off the helmet. I agree that it probably shouldnt be a penalty, but that's the way the rule is written

As for the flag, that's probably just the SEC for ya

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:36 PM
Georgia Tech 42-0 with 10 mins left Q3. Drove & scored, 'Cuse turnover, GT scores again and COMPLETED A PASS !

If I'm Syracuse I'd seriously consider giving up football after this one.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:39 PM
Sigh. Tennessee has turned into Tennessee. :(

MJ4H
10-19-2013, 01:45 PM
Look at the players arms coming up. In full speed, it's easy to see where the arms are, which are coming off the helmet. I agree that it probably shouldnt be a penalty, but that's the way the rule is written

As for the flag, that's probably just the SEC for ya

Yeah, I guess I just don't see that. I watched full speed and zoomed in and I don't see any hitting of the helmet. If there is any there, it is incidental grazing. Ridiculous call imo.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:48 PM
Ridiculous call imo.

Ridiculous rules lead to ridiculous calls.

MJ4H
10-19-2013, 01:48 PM
Ridiculous rules lead to ridiculous calls.

Can agree with that, for sure.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 01:53 PM
South Carolina in control now in Knoxville. Vols unable to stop Shaw in Q3, it's
21-17 poultry.

Vandy looks dead with the backup QB in due to injury. Georgia 27-14

Backup QB runs for 50 yd TD, Georgia Tech now 49-0 on Syracuse.

MrBug708
10-19-2013, 02:02 PM
This was probably James Franklin's shot at the USC job

ISiddiqui
10-19-2013, 02:41 PM
So um, is Georgia losing to Vandy 31-27?

DID VANDY JUST GET A TURNOVER?

Holy crap, I think UGA s going to lose to Vandy.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 02:46 PM
Vols get the signature win, FG as time expires. 23-21 over SC.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 02:50 PM
Go fucking crazy all over Tennessee, thank you 'Dores !

mckerney
10-19-2013, 02:51 PM
With Missouri playing this well Kansas is beginning to look like a shoe in for an at large BCS selection.

cuervo72
10-19-2013, 02:51 PM
Nice job on the reverse double jinx, Jon. :)

cuervo72
10-19-2013, 02:53 PM
And, props to Mizzou. Yeah, maybe they're pretty decent.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 02:55 PM
Nice job on the reverse double jinx, Jon. :)

Had to pull out all the stops :)

miami_fan
10-19-2013, 03:02 PM
Any of our amateur coaches have any clue WTF Spurrier was doing SC's last possession? Two timeouts on 4th down inside your OWN 30?

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 03:04 PM
Any of our amateur coaches have any clue WTF Spurrier was doing SC's last possession? Two timeouts on 4th down inside your OWN 30?

Just had this convo with my wife. My guess is that he had one specific look in mind that, if he got it, he'd have snapped the ball.

miami_fan
10-19-2013, 03:24 PM
Just had this convo with my wife. My guess is that he had one specific look in mind that, if he got it, he'd have snapped the ball.

I get that for the first one. Even if that is the case, at least try to get the Vols to jump offisdes. The second time makes no sense at all to me.

cartman
10-19-2013, 03:32 PM
With Missouri playing this well Kansas is beginning to look like a shoe in for an at large BCS selection.

I think Texas broke Oklahoma. They are down to Kansas 13-0 in the 2nd quarter.

MrBug708
10-19-2013, 04:03 PM
Hundley looks terrible :(

tarcone
10-19-2013, 04:03 PM
Hey! Iowa is beating OSU, 17-10. Halftime.

tarcone
10-19-2013, 04:04 PM
Mizzou could be in the NC game. Heard it here first.

cartman
10-19-2013, 04:05 PM
The Sooners finally woke up and scored 18 straight to get a 5 point halftime lead.

britrock88
10-19-2013, 04:20 PM
Nice job on the reverse double jinx, Jon. :)

+1

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 04:24 PM
Nice clock mgmt by A&M

SackAttack
10-19-2013, 04:38 PM
Mizzou could be in the NC game. Heard it here first.

Actually, I heard it on the radio before the Georgia game, but it didn't pass the smell test then, either.

IF Mizzou makes the SEC championship game and IF they're still undefeated then they'll probably be in the conversation.

But beating a depleted Georgia team and a depleted Florida team, while personally thrilling to this Mizzou fan, doesn't spell "national championship contenders."

Still some work to do before I'm willing to have that conversation.

Neuqua
10-19-2013, 04:48 PM
Jordan Lynch is now at 259 yards rushing and 3 TDs. Looks like NIU will remain undefeated.

BishopMVP
10-19-2013, 04:57 PM
If I'm Syracuse I'd seriously consider giving up football after this one.It's pretty much the whole northeast. Syracuse, BC, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, Army (I give them a pass). And the worst part is all of them seem to have a hard on for old-school football and ex-defensive coordinators and won't hire a new coach who'll try something different. There are always going to be the inherent facility and recruiting disadvantages, and yet plenty of FCS schools make noise with high-octane attacks, but guys like Chip Kelly, Brian Kelly, Mark Whipple, Bobby Wilder all had to leave the area to get head coaching gigs. Even a guy like Paul Johnson would be a good hire because he would bring something unique and different, which is your best chance of beating teams with more money, fans, and better recruiting areas than you.

BishopMVP
10-19-2013, 05:00 PM
Btw, Johnny Manziel should absolutely declare for the draft this spring. Not because I think he's ready for the NFL, or because I don't want to see him play college ball for 2 more years (I desperately do), but because his numbers are going to plummet when Mike Evans is gone and not winning 1-2 lobs in traffic per game.

Solecismic
10-19-2013, 05:13 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan ended up not being bowl eligible at all this season. This is a very mediocre team.

Missouri? Some impressive results, but a rather lackluster non-conference schedule to overcome. I think they'd need to run the table to play in the NCG and would be a two-touchdown underdog to Alabama in the SEC title game.

Karlifornia
10-19-2013, 05:56 PM
Bye, UCLA.

EagleFan
10-19-2013, 06:34 PM
Btw, Johnny Manziel should absolutely declare for the draft this spring. Not because I think he's ready for the NFL, or because I don't want to see him play college ball for 2 more years (I desperately do), but because his numbers are going to plummet when Mike Evans is gone and not winning 1-2 lobs in traffic per game.

and he may not survive 2 more years.

SackAttack
10-19-2013, 07:08 PM
Missouri? Some impressive results, but a rather lackluster non-conference schedule to overcome. I think they'd need to run the table to play in the NCG

Which is why, even though I'm thrilled that they've beaten two SEC power programs in a row, I'm not willing to get swept up in the talk

and would be a two-touchdown underdog to Alabama in the SEC title game.

In fairness, though, I think most of the SEC would suffer the same fate. Alabama's just a notch above the rest of the conference right now.

Matthean
10-19-2013, 07:11 PM
Apparently going to the local game store and playing games versus having a heart attack keeping up with the Michigan versus Indiana game was the right decision.

Thomkal
10-19-2013, 07:11 PM
Coastal Carolina wins an OT thriller against Liberty to remain undefeated 55-52. Came back from a 28-14 halftime deficit, to score the game tying TD and conversion with about 40 seconds left on a drive that had a successful 4th and 4 play to keep it alive.

In OT, both teams got TD's on their first drive, Coastal then settled for a FG on the second drive...and then blocked Liberty's attempt at a FG for the win! I'm pretty stunned at the win and just how successful they've been this season.

JPhillips
10-19-2013, 07:19 PM
The "cannon" on the furniture dolly is lame.

Matthean
10-19-2013, 07:22 PM
Remember when OSU beating Northwestern was Meyer's biggest win at OSU? As much as I hate Auburn, that team is slowly getting less fun to play against.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 08:05 PM
Did somebody from Washington steal from Arizona State or something?

Matthean
10-19-2013, 08:37 PM
Interesting to see 'Bama use Drake more. This goes away from 'Bama's typical smash mouth running game, and it gives them two speed backs. I know Arkansas is terrible, but the duo is putting up huge numbers. If the OL continues to get better, any issue the offense has might be going away. The defense is only getting back to their norm.

BillJasper
10-19-2013, 09:07 PM
Jameis Winston is damn impressive.

JPhillips
10-19-2013, 09:07 PM
Winston is the real deal.

Tough for Clemson after the big UGA win to start the season. Could be interesting to see who plays ALA if both FSU and ORE are undefeated.

mckerney
10-19-2013, 09:29 PM
Baylor out gains Iowa State by 540 yards in 71-7 victory.

Matthean
10-19-2013, 09:37 PM
Ole Miss and LSU ited at 24 with Ole Miss driving with just over a minute to go.

JPhillips
10-19-2013, 09:38 PM
Ole Miss deserves a win given how much money they spent on recruits.

mckerney
10-19-2013, 09:41 PM
Why didn't LSU call a timeout immediately there?

Ball is snapped with :32 left, LSU lets it run down to :06 on 4th down with a FG coming up before using their final timeout.

Matthean
10-19-2013, 09:46 PM
I wonder how many people would have bet the Iron Bowl would decide who goes to the SEC title game after watching last year's Iron Bowl.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 09:47 PM
This might just be as good a college football day, overall, as I've ever had.

Tennessee gives Butch Jones a signature win
Georgia Tech sets a new record for an ACC win (who cares? but still nice)
Georgia lost.
LSU lost.

I can't ask for much more out of a Saturday.

SirFozzie
10-19-2013, 10:06 PM
Yeah, the SEC is upside down today (well, except for Bama)

Matthean
10-19-2013, 10:06 PM
Why didn't LSU call a timeout immediately there?

Ball is snapped with :32 left, LSU lets it run down to :06 on 4th down with a FG coming up before using their final timeout.

Let me introduce you to Les Miles. :D

If I'm FSU, I'm trying to post 40+ on Clemson. It might not matter to the computers, but the voters will have to factor the score in if Oregon and Stanford are close.

sterlingice
10-19-2013, 10:25 PM
I think Texas broke Oklahoma. They are down to Kansas 13-0 in the 2nd quarter.

Yeah, it didn't end that way

(tho better than the 60-7 I was predicting)

SI

sterlingice
10-19-2013, 10:25 PM
With Missouri playing this well Kansas is beginning to look like a shoe in for an at large BCS selection.

:D

SI

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 10:30 PM
Wanna know how times change? Think about this:

Southern Cal played at Notre Dame today ... and best I can tell, virtually no one cared.

cuervo72
10-19-2013, 10:33 PM
I flipped to it for about twenty seconds, flipped back and had that same thought. And it made me smile.

Matthean
10-19-2013, 10:37 PM
Lou Holtz cared. I would say who he picked but that's like asking a southerner if they like sweet tea. :D

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 10:42 PM
Lou Holtz cared. I would say who he picked but that's like asking a southerner if they like sweet tea. :D

Y'know, even our diabetics drink that :D

mckerney
10-19-2013, 10:51 PM
FSU following up winning 63-0 against a ranked opponent with 51-7 against the #3 team on the road. What are the chances they leap Oregon in tomorrows polls?

Matthean
10-19-2013, 10:54 PM
Maybe Clemson should have seen if Bill Murray could have suited up.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 10:57 PM
FSU following up winning 63-0 against a ranked opponent with 51-7 against the #3 team on the road. What are the chances they leap Oregon in tomorrows polls?

I don't see it unless Oregon ends up right down to the wire or wins on some Pac12 officiating thing.

The polls are already going to be majorly fucked up tomorrow as it is, I don't see anybody being gung-ho to make that kind of change along with it.

JonInMiddleGA
10-19-2013, 11:01 PM
From a friend (and diehard Dawg) on FB

Even the planes flying back into Athens tonight sound pissed

Matthean
10-19-2013, 11:01 PM
FSU following up winning 63-0 against a ranked opponent with 51-7 against the #3 team on the road. What are the chances they leap Oregon in tomorrows polls?

I'm not sure I could easily pick one over the other, but Oregon's win over Washington doesn't look as good now with Washington getting beat three in a row with a really bad loss in there. Clemson at least beat Georgia when it was healthy. If I'm Oregon, I'm praying for the rest of the ACC since FSU seems to be in FU mode, and they have two games of note Miami and conference title game and the Florida game might be another game to pile on the SEC since Florida can't score against a stiff breeze. This is going to be the year the BCS is going to have chaos unless Stanford or somebody offers a gift up.

Vegas Vic
10-19-2013, 11:52 PM
Clemson at least beat Georgia when it was healthy.

I would rank Alabama, Oregon, and Florida State 1-2-3 at this point.

Your analysis is spot on; when Georgia was at full strength, the Clemson win was (and still is) impressive.

Watching Florida State demolish Clemson 51-14 tonight on Clemson's home field convinced me that they deserve to be in the discussion for the final season of the fraudulent "BCS National Championship".

Kodos
10-20-2013, 12:12 AM
So disappointed. We had a chance against Michigan, but Roberson's hand injury set off a chain of events that sunk us.

If we could have covered Gallon at all, we might have won.

britrock88
10-20-2013, 01:00 AM
Winston is the real deal.

Tough for Clemson after the big UGA win to start the season. Could be interesting to see who plays ALA if both FSU and ORE are undefeated.

'Bama might have the worst SOS by the end of the season, so the computers could tip in the direction of Oregon and FSU. But I don't have any faith that the human voters will entertain that idea.

Julio Riddols
10-20-2013, 01:42 AM
So disappointed. We had a chance against Michigan, but Roberson's hand injury set off a chain of events that sunk us.

If we could have covered Gallon at all, we might have won.

Agreed. Indiana's DC is apparently terrible. Can't let a guy go for 170 in one half then make zero adjustments.

Izulde
10-20-2013, 02:32 AM
What I thought would happen, happened. Hopefully this doesn't affect team morale too much and we go into the battle for the Fremont Cannon fired up.

Matthean
10-20-2013, 07:31 AM
'Bama might have the worst SOS by the end of the season, so the computers could tip in the direction of Oregon and FSU. But I don't have any faith that the human voters will entertain that idea.

LSU will still have a decent record, and they are to my knowledge healthy compared to other SEC teams that got beat. Auburn may only have one loss when they face 'Bama. I'm aware that the schedule is rather soft considering it involves the SEC and an OOC one loss team, but I find it rather difficult for any voter to not send an undefeated two-time champ back to the title game. While impressive, people understand the FSU/Clemson score isn't something that would happen that often if they played 10 times. You give FSU cerdit, but you don't put them at #1 either.

Kodos
10-20-2013, 07:36 AM
Agreed. Indiana's DC is apparently terrible. Can't let a guy go for 170 in one half then make zero adjustments.

Doug Mallory. He's the son of former head coach Bill Mallory. As far as I can tell, the name is the main reason he is on our staff. He's never coached a good defense.

MizzouRah
10-20-2013, 08:52 AM
Congrats to Maty Mauk and the Tigers defense, fantastic game!

CU Tiger
10-20-2013, 09:14 AM
Great game by FSU last night. Combine a great game with a folly of errors and that is what you get.

I told a friend last night if these two teams play ten more times FSU likely wins 7 or more of them but they don't score fifty again.

Stupid stupid fumbles and uncharacteristically poor passing decisions haunted the Tigers lat night.

Let's see of this team really has exercised past demons and shows up next week in Md. If the Clemson team through the first 6 weeks shows up that one will be over early and ugly...if this loss hangs around it could beat us twice.

CU Tiger
10-20-2013, 09:20 AM
Dola (because for some reason I can not edit my previous post )

I would not want to be a pollster today.

Bama, Oregon, FSU are your top three and a case could be made for any order there you wanted I suppose. But beyond that...who's 4-10

Stanford, LSU, mizzou, Ohio state, Miami, Baylor, UCLA, , Texas tech, auburn, and Clemson all probably in the conversation for those next 7....and who goes where...like I said glad I'm not charged with that task.

JonInMiddleGA
10-20-2013, 09:31 AM
Bama, Oregon, FSU are your top three and a case could be made for any order there you wanted I suppose. But beyond that...who's 4-10

Stanford, LSU, mizzou, Ohio state, Miami, Baylor, UCLA, , Texas tech, auburn, and Clemson all probably in the conversation for those next 7....and who goes where...like I said glad I'm not charged with that task.

I started dreading putting together my own Top 25 somewhere late in the day yesterday ;)

That said though, it's actually why I do that every week, the exercise does cause me to really consider teams (and their resumes) far more than I would otherwise.

Mizzou B-ball fan
10-20-2013, 10:22 AM
Congrats to Maty Mauk and the Tigers defense, fantastic game!

Agreed, it's funny how things change. Last year, Mizzou got no sympathy for getting beat while having more injured starters than any other team in the SEC. It's just that they weren't ready for the SEC. This year, they're playing much more like they have in past years under Pinkel despite having their best two players out yesterday and we're hearing excuses about the other teams. This tweet was pretty appropriate in that regard....

Brad Edwards @JBradEdwards

After reading all the commentary, it seems most fans believe that every team, except their own, has beaten nobody.

Coach Henson deserves a ton of credit for the turnaround this year. He's simplified the offense while making the slight changes that were needed to create more positive plays. I've heard a ton of chatter that he's the heir apparent to Pinkel whenever he decides to move on. The administration and the alumni love the guy and he's done a great job at public functions as well.

This feels a lot like the year when we came one win short of going to a national championship. It's a lot of fun to watch. If MU keeps it rolling next week against South Carolina, we can start dreaming.

Edit: Just saw the tweet from Chris Fowler over at ESPN. Looks like South Carolina's loss cost Mizzou a College Gameday visit.

Chris Fowler ✔ @cbfowler

We know Mizzou wants wanted us in COMO's ZOU. Tigers a good story. Had great time our last visit. But 2nd L by SoCar certainly a factor

Vince, Pt. II
10-20-2013, 11:25 AM
So is that the bloodiest day the top 25 has seen in a while? I mean 3, 6-9, 11, 15, 20 and 22 going down in the same day, and only three of those to other top 25 teams...I don't follow college football all that close, but that's as bad a day as I remember for upsets.

1-4 is going to be 'bama-Oregon-Florida State-Ohio State. It's 5-the rest where things get crazy. From a complete outsider's projection who doesn't know the first thing about it:

1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Florida State
4. Ohio State
5. Miami (FL)
6. Missouri
7. Stanford
8. Baylor
9. Clemson
10. LSU
11. Texas A&M
12. Louisville
13. Auburn
14. Texas Tech
15. Fresno State
16. UCLA
17. South Carolina
18. Oklahoma
19. Virginia Tech
20. Oklahoma State
21. Georgia
22. Northern Illinois
23. Wisconsin
24. Ole Miss
25. Arizona State

miami_fan
10-20-2013, 12:27 PM
Sports sensitivity is so cute. The winning team that is now complaining about the team that is losing keeping their starters in too long AND passing the ball.

Mike Leach, Washington State Cougars 'low class,' says Oregon Ducks' Nick Aliotti - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9854222/mike-leach-washington-state-cougars-low-class-says-oregon-ducks-nick-aliotti)

JonInMiddleGA
10-20-2013, 12:33 PM
Sports sensitivity is so cute. The winning team that is now complaining about the team that is losing keeping their starters in too long AND passing the ball.

I saw that earlier, just silly. Maybe silliness by both sides, but definitely absurd on the part of Oregon.

JonInMiddleGA
10-20-2013, 12:50 PM
Florida State Seminoles, Baylor Bears, Missouri Tigers lead AP Top 25 makeover - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9854619/florida-state-seminoles-baylor-bears-missouri-tigers-lead-ap-top-25-makeover)

Matthean
10-20-2013, 07:47 PM
FSU #2 in BCS.

2013 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 9 - ESPN (http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/college-football/rankings)

Karlifornia
10-20-2013, 09:52 PM
Rum and Bug are so quiet

BishopMVP
10-20-2013, 10:53 PM
I wonder how many people would have bet the Iron Bowl would decide who goes to the SEC title game after watching last year's Iron Bowl.I'm a bit surprised it happened this quickly (and there's still a good chance Auburn loses 1-2 more games before then), but Malzahn is such a huge upgrade over Chizik it's not a surprise Auburn is good again.

BishopMVP
10-20-2013, 10:57 PM
FSU #2 in BCS.

2013 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 9 - ESPN (http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/college-football/rankings)And the other important side of the ranking... Northern Illinois and Fresno State are at 17/18, both ahead of Louisville and getting some solid numbers from the computers - bodes well for either to get that automatic BCS berth if they win out.

Matthean
10-20-2013, 11:18 PM
I'm a bit surprised it happened this quickly (and there's still a good chance Auburn loses 1-2 more games before then), but Malzahn is such a huge upgrade over Chizik it's not a surprise Auburn is good again.

I hate the fact that Malzahn went there. He's too good to not turn it around. The defense needs to get better, but he'll build an offense to give other teams fits.

MrBug708
10-21-2013, 01:13 AM
Rum and Bug are so quiet

Nothing really to say. Not ready for primetime but was a winnable game

Neuqua
10-21-2013, 09:12 AM
And the other important side of the ranking... Northern Illinois and Fresno State are at 17/18, both ahead of Louisville and getting some solid numbers from the computers - bodes well for either to get that automatic BCS berth if they win out.

The way "we've" played this year, I don't think NIU would be able to beat a top 30 team. The two wins on the road against the Big Ten is obviously a big deal for a MAC school.

Here's hoping we start beating teams up the way we should, I didn't get to make it down to Florida for last year's BCS game, I would love to get another opportunity this year.

MacroGuru
10-21-2013, 09:17 AM
What a shootout in Houston, our weakness was REALLY exposed (weak secondary due to us being down to 3rd and 4th string CBs, 2nd string FS).

Our QB threw for over 400 yards and 4 TDs, he ran for over 120 (Should have been close to 200, but 8 sacks for -66 hurt him there).

We also ran 115 plays

We won and turn around and Welcome Boise State on Friday!

MacroGuru
10-21-2013, 09:44 AM
DOLA

One thing I will add, it was probably one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen and it went both ways, if that is the officiating in the AAC, then WOW they made the PAC refs look good.

Chief Rum
10-21-2013, 11:22 AM
Rum and Bug are so quiet

Yeah, what Bug said. Not sure what you want us to say. Stanford is great? Okay. Stanford is great. Go, you, you big stud.

BishopMVP
10-21-2013, 01:24 PM
The way "we've" played this year, I don't think NIU would be able to beat a top 30 team. The two wins on the road against the Big Ten is obviously a big deal for a MAC school.

Here's hoping we start beating teams up the way we should, I didn't get to make it down to Florida for last year's BCS game, I would love to get another opportunity this year.

I agree, but unless you rate Kent State they really didn't beat a top 30 team last year either. I think the voters would punish them some for their poor showing vs. FSU last year, which is why that computer love is important. Path looks clear to get back to the BCS - win effectively 3 games (Toledo, Ball State, MAC title game - can't imagine UMass/Eastern/Western beating them), have Fresno State stumble, and their in. I'll be rooting for it, since that's 500k-$1 million extra in bowl revenue to UMass, and likely the difference between the football program being in the red vs. in the black.

Matthean
10-21-2013, 05:20 PM
Ohio State's Urban Meyer wants 2nd look at targeting rules and ejections - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9859500/ohio-state-urban-meyer-wants-2nd-look-targeting-rules-ejections)

Considering the hit in question, Meyer really has nothing to go on. You could even tell the player in question was rather happy with the hit.