Trying to keep the other thread decluttered.

Kif fired
Brown "retiring"
Polini pissing everyone off

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter 4m

Denver DC Jack Del Rio expected to emerge as a leading candidate for USC HC job, as @mikefreemanNFL said. Sources said Del Rio wants job.

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Jack Del Rio may want to be USC's head coach, but USC doesn't want Del Rio. Trojans are not going to hire an NFL guy or guy with USC ties.

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USC is not going to fire a guy (Kiffin) who went 7-6 last season only to hire another guy (Sarkisian) who has gone 7-6, 7-6 and 7-6.

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter 4m

Denver DC Jack Del Rio expected to emerge as a leading candidate for USC HC job, as @mikefreemanNFL said. Sources said Del Rio wants job.

Duh. You already knew that I told you that last night. ;)

I don't see why USC would be going after either Fisher or Del Rio?

I wouldn't be surprised to see USC contact Jim Harbaugh and try to lure him back to the college game.

Jack Del Rio has been a name since last year. You telling me that is like saying UCLA is going to fire Rick :)

Both JLR and Fisher are USC alums

Ed O is named Interim HC

YES!

Jack Del Rio has been a name since last year. You telling me that is like saying UCLA is going to fire Rick :)

Both JLR and Fisher are USC alums

I know they're both alums, but neither has any college coaching/recruiting experience. Just seems odd to bring someone in like that for anything other than the name value.

I wouldn't be surprised to see USC contact Jim Harbaugh and try to lure him back to the college game.

No way the Niners let him get away.

No way the Niners let him get away.

Agreed. I would love to have him but I don't think there is any shot.

I wouldn't be surprised to see USC contact Jim Harbaugh and try to lure him back to the college game.

It's his dream job so I can't imagine why he would want to go back after getting to the Super Bowl in two years. Plus, you have to figure him and Carroll have this nice little rivalry going so I don't see him backing away from it.

No way the Niners let him get away.

I didn't say they'd be successful. I just won't be surprised if they try.

Polini pissing everyone off

You mean Pelini?

I know they're both alums, but neither has any college coaching/recruiting experience. Just seems odd to bring someone in like that for anything other than the name value.

Carroll had even less in common and he was ultra-successful at USC.

You mean Pelini?

Yup

It's his dream job so I can't imagine why he would want to go back after getting to the Super Bowl in two years. Plus, you have to figure him and Carroll have this nice little rivalry going so I don't see him backing away from it.

Based on what I've seen and know about Harbaugh, he doesnt give two craps about Pete Carroll

I'm ecstatic about the Kiffin firing, but SC will be lucky to win 3 games for the rest of the season with Kiffin, Ed O or Vince Lombardi as the coach. Will probably be under 50 scholarship players healthy for next week.

Right move but really should have been done at the end of last season. Franklin from Vandy seems like a hot name and it would be a similar hire to Enfield (young coach who had some success at a non-traditional school). Assuming none of the real home run hires would have any interest, I'd be OK with that I think.

USC has the talent to win 10 games. The problem was that Kiffin felt that he needed a ton of skill position players on the team. The reductions obviously hurt, but Kiffin didnt manage the roster balance very well.

Odds that "none of the above" becomes head coach? 2/1 :)

USC has the talent to win 10 games. The problem was that Kiffin felt that he needed a ton of skill position players on the team. The reductions obviously hurt, but Kiffin didnt manage the roster balance very well.

I agree to a point, but there's no way this is a 10 win team with the injuries picked up last night. Was there enough talent on the field to get past Washington State? Obviously, but this is going to be a humbling season from this point on.

Kif also didn't use 5 scholarships. You could argue that he probably wouldnt have gotten viable OL or DB's, but there were key guys who left who are playing minutes as true freshmen. Local kids no less

I wouldn't be surprised to see USC contact Jim Harbaugh and try to lure him back to the college game.

Sure. They can try and get Bill Belichick while they are at it as well. :D

Sure. They can try and get Bill Belichick while they are at it as well. :D

Too late he has accepted Mizzou's HCIW offer.

Pasqualoni gone too Paul Pasqualoni fired as Connecticut Huskies football coach - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9747760/paul-pasqualoni-fired-connecticut-huskies-football-coach)

I wonder if Don Brown will be a candidate?

Pasqualoni gone too Paul Pasqualoni fired as Connecticut Huskies football coach - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9747760/paul-pasqualoni-fired-connecticut-huskies-football-coach)

I wonder if Don Brown will be a candidate?

It seems like they're going to try and aim higher but it's not a bad name to fall back on. I couldn't believe they let him get away in the first place. That being said, I know very little about his HC-ability but you can't argue his defensive success.

I can't see a guy like Narduzzi, who seems to be emerging as one of their top choices, going to an AAC school with a pretty terrible recruiting base when he can likely get a power conference job.

Not a coach, but will impact the carousel...Texas AD Dodds reportedly stepping down tomorrow.

Report: DeLoss Dodds to step down as Texas AD on Tuesday - Burnt Orange Nation (http://www.burntorangenation.com/football/2013/9/30/4788256/deloss-dodds-retirement-texas-longhorns-athletic-director)

Where's MBBF?!?

Pasqualoni gone too Paul Pasqualoni fired as Connecticut Huskies football coach - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9747760/paul-pasqualoni-fired-connecticut-huskies-football-coach)

I wonder if Don Brown will be a candidate?

I was at the stadium and watched the UB Bulls curb stomp of UCONN. I went in thinking UCONN was going to go away with the win easily.

I have never seen a team play that lackluster in a game. The two players for UCONN I could tell was playing all out was the QB and one WR...other than that, it was like everyone else was half assing it.

Not a coach, but will impact the carousel...Texas AD Dodds reportedly stepping down tomorrow.

Report: DeLoss Dodds to step down as Texas AD on Tuesday - Burnt Orange Nation (http://www.burntorangenation.com/football/2013/9/30/4788256/deloss-dodds-retirement-texas-longhorns-athletic-director)

Listening to radio on the way home, and they said he'll announce tomorrow that he is retiring in the offseason. Do Texas fans think they could move Mack Brown to AD?

Listening to radio on the way home, and they said he'll announce tomorrow that he is retiring in the offseason. Do Texas fans think they could move Mack Brown to AD?

That has been the assumed scenario around here for the past several years, that he would be AD whenever Dodds decided to retire.

Isn't a more likely scenario that when it was time to retire Mack Brown, Dodds would also be retired from the AD? Basically if Texas were in the hunt for a national title, Dodds would likely not be retiring right now?

Isn't a more likely scenario that when it was time to retire Mack Brown, Dodds would also be retired from the AD? Basically if Texas were in the hunt for a national title, Dodds would likely not be retiring right now?

Well, he just turned 74, and during his tenure the Texas athletic programs have won 14 national championships and 105 conference titles, and he turned the department into a financial powerhouse. If he is indeed announcing a retirement tomorrow, it would take effect right around his 75th birthday. Mack is 12 years younger, and just tied Woody Hayes for 10th place all time in coaching wins.

Only 14 National Titles?

Weak! :)

It seems like they're going to try and aim higher but it's not a bad name to fall back on. I couldn't believe they let him get away in the first place. That being said, I know very little about his HC-ability but you can't argue his defensive success.He led Northeastern to its only playoff appearance within 3 years, then took UMass to a title game and a quarterfinal berth within his first 4 years there... reportedly left partially over lack of support from the UMass admin (that was a weird period where half the people wanted to upgrade to 1A and half wanted drop football altogether) and partially because he felt being a DC at a BCS school would be a more likely path to eventually getting an eventual BCS head coaching gig.

Needless to say, I like the guy (and wish UMass had spent the $$$ to bring him back when they upgraded, or decided to upgrade when he was HC), and he's from/has coached in CT/MA for 90% of his career, so I think he'd be a very good hire. But I can see where he's not a sexy hire - I think UConn's ceiling is the 8-9 wins most years Edsall got them and Brown would be a likely candidate to get them there, but maybe they'll shoot for the next Chris Peterson instead. (I also don't know if he burned any bridges on the way out the door at UConn last winter. Can't imagine he didn't see the Pasqualoni firing coming.)

He led Northeastern to its only playoff appearance within 3 years, then took UMass to a title game and a quarterfinal berth within his first 4 years there... reportedly left partially over lack of support from the UMass admin (that was a weird period where half the people wanted to upgrade to 1A and half wanted drop football altogether) and partially because he felt being a DC at a BCS school would be a more likely path to eventually getting an eventual BCS head coaching gig.

Needless to say, I like the guy (and wish UMass had spent the $$$ to bring him back when they upgraded, or decided to upgrade when he was HC), and he's from/has coached in CT/MA for 90% of his career, so I think he'd be a very good hire. But I can see where he's not a sexy hire - I think UConn's ceiling is the 8-9 wins most years Edsall got them and Brown would be a likely candidate to get them there, but maybe they'll shoot for the next Chris Peterson instead. (I also don't know if he burned any bridges on the way out the door at UConn last winter. Can't imagine he didn't see the Pasqualoni firing coming.)

Interesting, thanks for the background. You could probably make the argument that you would say the same thing about Edsall when he was hired in terms of his potential ceiling. If I'm them, I don't hesitate to just be realistic and go to Brown. Football alone is not going to get them into a power conference at this point. If anything, it will come from someone like the ACC who wants them for basketball as well and getting back to respectability and then trying to consistently win the AAC after these last defections should be their goal, not necessarily to be a BCS buster.

So apparently Lovie was interviewed for the USC job. And of course, the retractions area already in full force.

Seems like USC wants an NFL type of guy at this point.

USC is interviewing a wide variety of guys not just NFL guys. Sumlin is a real possibility.

Sumlin is a real possibility.
Which surprised me at first, but then I read that there may some shit going down soon at aTm, and perhaps Sumlin wants to get out before it hits the fan. I'm still skeptical, but a little less so than before.

Surprised Sumlin wouldn't just go straight to the NFL.

I thought USC wasn't interviewing anybody right now...haha

Sumlin would be scary at USC, but I'm not too worried right now. I have this ranked right up there with Dillon Baxter being a freak. :)

USC is interviewing a wide variety of guys not just NFL guys. Sumlin is a real possibility.

They interviewed me based upon my 10-45 online Madden and 6-76 online NCAA records.

Which surprised me at first, but then I read that there may some shit going down soon at aTm, and perhaps Sumlin wants to get out before it hits the fan. I'm still skeptical, but a little less so than before.There's smoke at any successful program. Hard to imagine there's something bad enough to knock off more than a few scholarships at A&M given the NCAA's recent track record. Now, losing Manziel and Mike Evans while the SEC West only gets stronger (Malzahn at Auburn, Bielama a.k.a. anyone other than John L. Smith at Arkansas) and Texas looks prepared to move on from Mack Brown would have me listening to USC too.

A lot of smoke that "a new coach is imminent at USC." Several sources indicating it will be Petersen although if that falls through at the last minute, Franklin is an option. Either way, something should be done within the next few days.

No new coach for me. :(

It ain't gonna be Petersen. He's already told them no twice. He has absolutely no interest in being in the spotlight - as it is, he's already feeling like he's under too much of a microscope in Boise.

Franklin on the other hand is very likely to say yes when offered.

UMass fired the OC (and WR coach), so it appears we're unsurprisingly stuck with Charley Molnar for a 3rd year. Hopefully he at least continues his snake oil act on the recruiting trail and keeps building a nice talent base for the next coach.

One thing that was shocking to me was how little we paid the OC last year. Our HC makes ~420k, slightly above the middle of the pack for the MAC, and our WR coach made 55k which doesn't seem off, but our OC only made 75k this season. Is that normal for an OC (at our level), or is that why were stuck with a retread who's been let go by multiple teams in the past?

A lot of smoke that "a new coach is imminent at USC." Several sources indicating it will be Petersen although if that falls through at the last minute, Franklin is an option. Either way, something should be done within the next few days.

What happened to Franklin not even being able to get on the list because of the Vandy rape allegations?

What happened to Franklin not even being able to get on the list because of the Vandy rape allegations?

Korn Ferry (huge hiring firm) vetted him and it came out ok.

So Wyoming fired their coach. Rumor has it (depends on where you get your rumor mill from) he is in line to be the next OC at Utah, which I find funny because Erickson has done a great job with what little he has had there.

The two SC rumors are that Haden me with Petersen last week and James Franklin yesterday. Both would be wins in my book :)

So Wyoming fired their coach. Rumor has it (depends on where you get your rumor mill from) he is in line to be the next OC at Utah, which I find funny because Erickson has done a great job with what little he has had there.

Whit is grasping at straws to save his job. They have lost 2 starting QB's the last two seasons to career ending injuries (Though Wilson may still have a shot to return) and are living on their defense right now. Not that I would ever defend Utah, but continuing to turn staff over won't help. I would keep it intact one more year and see what happens.

Korn Ferry (huge hiring firm) vetted him and it came out ok.

And who wouldn't trust the judgement of a corn fairy?

http://www.amarketplaceofideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/corn-fairy.jpg

"Don't worry about rape. It's really no big deal."

The two SC rumors are that Haden me with Petersen last week and James Franklin yesterday. Both would be wins in my book :)

Still can't see Peterson going there, just seems like the lights of LA are not a good fit for him and his personality. Franklin is intriguing, would be a good hire.

Whit is grasping at straws to save his job. They have lost 2 starting QB's the last two seasons to career ending injuries (Though Wilson may still have a shot to return) and are living on their defense right now. Not that I would ever defend Utah, but continuing to turn staff over won't help. I would keep it intact one more year and see what happens.

Yeah, and they are speculating Kalani is going to apply for the Wyoming HC job. It would be interesting to see if he could create a Poly pipeline to Wyoming, but I don't think Kalani goes there.

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This would be the year I'd want to see the UW job open. No way Mora leaves after year 2

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Boise State's Chris Petersen has withdrawn from USC coaching search after mutual interest.
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Totally expected that

Yeah, and they are speculating Kalani is going to apply for the Wyoming HC job. It would be interesting to see if he could create a Poly pipeline to Wyoming, but I don't think Kalani goes there.

I would love BYU to go after him as DC/HC in waiting, but I think they have already promised that to Anae.

Totally expected that
Yep. It really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone anymore. Petersen isn't a coaching ladder climber - he's a guy that loves teaching the game, loves the coaching aspect. He hates the spotlight, hates everything that comes with the attention of being a head coach. He's not leaving Boise State for a big-market job - if anything, he's more likely to take an assistant position somewhere else.

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While I suspect this is more contract leverage than true interest, it wouldn't surprise me if Sark ends up being USC's choice and he takes it. He's started to take some heat among Husky fans, and he's got a long history with USC. He'd do very well there, and I think it's probably the only college job he'd leave the UW for. If it happens, it'll be very interesting to see how Woodward plays things. I doubt he goes after Mora - too much bad blood has transpired between both parties since he took the UCLA job. Would he offer the job to Justin Wilcox, or would he poke the tires on some outside candidates first like Tim DeRuyter?

Interesting...covers USC for Fox Sports.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/EliseKJR">@EliseKJR</a> I have confirmed Sark is leaving and taking the USC job -- it's real</p>&mdash; Realdawg.com (@Realdawg247) <a href="https://twitter.com/Realdawg247/statuses/407583758624116736">December 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I'm disgusted with how this process has played out. Hopefully, Sark surprises me and does well at USC.

Oh well, time to get ready for a week at Disney :)

Didn't see this potential turn happening...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Don't be surprised if Chris Petersen and Washington share mutual interest</p>&mdash; Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/statuses/407587126222807040">December 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Flashback...

Kiffin Fired

USC Head Football Coach Lane Kiffin Terminated - University of Southern California Official Athletic Site (http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/092913aaa.html)

I really hope they don't make a run a Sark.

I'm sure thy will look for a more flashy hire like a Gruden, but not sure they will land a guy like that.

and as I say that Cowherd is on Sportscenter saying USC will go hard after Sark. Like Herd or not, he is pretty dialed in with USC football.

I think Sark will be their target too, but I think he stays at UW

Sark is not a target.

Not sure how you can say that. Maybe he isn't currently, but when they get rejected by the Grudens of the world they will look elsewhere.

Not to mention if they don't target Sark they are fools. He has all the tools to win there.

Sark should most definitely be a target. The question is when does USC star its full court press? UW still has lots to play for this year.

Heh. EF27 isn't the most dialed-in of fans. I knew from the start that Sark would be a serious candidate for USC, and that the interest would likely be mutual. I wasn't certain he'd take it, but I knew he'd listen.

He's going to do very, very well there. Big question is going to be how many of his current assistants he'll be able to bring with him. I'd imagine most/all unless Justin Wilcox is offered the job at Washington - if that happens, Sirmon stays at Washington, Tui stays, and Tosh would be torn. I'd imagine a bidding war would happen for Keith Heyward - not sure which job he'd end up picking, but he'll get a big raise either way.

Wonder if they will make a run at Pinkel? I would love to think he wouldn't want to leave an SEC school but am grounded enough in reality to know that Bama/LSU SEC <> Mizzou/Arkansas SEC.

Wonder if they will make a run at Pinkel? I would love to think he wouldn't want to leave an SEC school but am grounded enough in reality to know that Bama/LSU SEC <> Mizzou/Arkansas SEC.
I seriously doubt it. Why would Pinkel leave at this point in his career? No, I think Woodward will pursue a younger guy that has a chance to be here for a while.

I seriously doubt it. Why would Pinkel leave at this point in his career? No, I think Woodward will pursue a younger guy that has a chance to be here for a while.

He played college football with Saban so they are the same age. Again like my previous post... Saban <> Pinkel... I just meant that if the $$$ was right he may have no problem leaving a place whose fanbase wanted him gone just 5 months ago.

I think the timing for Mora and UW is bad, thankfully

I think the timing for Mora and UW is bad, thankfully
Probably. Sounds like there's been contact but Mora has said no already. Mora's wife reportedly loves it in LA, and Mora likes his situation.

Looks like Jim Grobe is stepping down at Wake Forest.

7 win Steve? Ha!

I seriously doubt it. Why would Pinkel leave at this point in his career? No, I think Woodward will pursue a younger guy that has a chance to be here for a while.

Pinkel's been asked before about the Washington job and if he'd take it if it ever popped up. He said he might have earlier in his career, but felt like he was at a point where starting over with a new program isn't a very attractive option.

You have to remember at this point that with one more win, Pinkel will become the all-time wins leader at Mizzou. He'll have a statue outside the gates at some point. He's also likely to get a lucrative extension at the end of the season. I would think that being the all-time leader in wins at two schools (Toledo and Missouri) is probably enough for him. And he's now got the backing of a division championship and a possible SEC championship when he heads out to recruit.

Not Surprisingly Orgeron has apparently turned down the assistant head coach job and quit. Clay Helton will coach the bowl game.

USC Trojans hire Steve Sarkisian from Washington Huskies as new football coach - ESPN Los Angeles (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10068739/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-washington-huskies-new-football-coach)

We're still doing statues of coaches?

Not Surprisingly Orgeron has apparently turned down the assistant head coach job and quit. Clay Helton will coach the bowl game.

USC Trojans hire Steve Sarkisian from Washington Huskies as new football coach - ESPN Los Angeles (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10068739/usc-trojans-hire-steve-sarkisian-washington-huskies-new-football-coach)

I probably would have done the same thing. :lol:

I hate being right.

On one hand it makes total sense for Sark and I wish him luck.

On the other hand I wish he stuck around and finished the job.

I hope we give the keys to Wilcox and see what he can do.

I hope we give the keys to Wilcox and see what he can do.
At the moment it sounds like Woodward has him on the back burner while he pursues other options.

I've got an open mind here. I would have been able to get behind Wilcox as well given the work done by him and the rest of the defensive staff but I would trust the AD to make a good hire here. There is definitely room for improvement even though I liked Sark and wasn't one of the people who thought his job should be on the line.

At least this happened on a day when I'm just completely numb to anything happening outside of my home.

Is it the wrong impression to think that Orge acted like a big baby?

Not really. He's bled Trojan red and yellow for a while, led them through this year better than anyone thought, and you hire a guy who basically was under him (not directly, really) for the second time who is bringing in his own DL and DC. It's understandable that they don't retain him, but he's certainly done more than enough to not earn a demotion.

Doug Nussmeier seems to be the first "serious" name bantered about.

Is it the wrong impression to think that Orge acted like a big baby?

Did he even get an interview?

Like I said before, I'd probably would have done the same thing. Take over under bad circumstances, do an incredible job of it and then get told that I'm not good enough to do it on a regular basis.

Did he even get an interview?

Like I said before, I'd probably would have done the same thing. Take over under bad circumstances, do an incredible job of it and then get told that I'm not good enough to do it on a regular basis.

This. I'd have resigned, too. If they're not going to appreciate my work, there will be lots of other places that do.

How soon til the Bobby Hauck to UW rumors start :)

How soon til the Bobby Hauck to UW rumors start :)
Not by anyone sane.

The good news for UCLA fans is it appears Scott Woodward and Jim Mora are a bad fit together, and it's unlikely Woodward goes all out to try to woo him.

Nussmeier is the name I'm seeing thrown around the most right now.

Any idea who sticks around? I would imagine Eric Kiesau and Tui coach the bowl game? Who calls the defense? Heyward? Unless Wilcox gets the gig.

I am going to preface this by saying I realize people who post in the comments section of stories are for the most part idiots, but man, the idiot Husky fans are out in full force.

about 4 comments in someone posted the Huskys should go after, in this order, Mora, Jim Tressle, Gruden, or Peterson. Lol.

Lots of comments about how USC got a .500 coach and how we need someone to get us to the next level. Forgetting the fact Sark took over an 0-12 team and managed to get really talented kids to come play in Seattle.

These Husky fans have no concept of what our program is. A member of a power conference that has the potential to be above average most years but other than occasionally catching lightening in a bottle really doesn't have the tools to be a national power.

I Lol every time the fire Romar or Sark talks come up. Romar has led the program to a level of consistency never seen and Sark rebuilt it from the ground up. I'm not sure where some of these people got the idea we are a destination job but we really aren't. A nice, above average job, yes, but we aren't getting the Grudens of the world that could have any job they wanted.

I will say Mora could be the exception given his ties to the area.

dola- A guy like Cutcliff (sp?) is an intriguing thought but I don't know how he would recruit the West Coast.

dola- A guy like Cutcliff (sp?) is an intriguing thought but I don't know how he would recruit the West Coast.

Doesn't he have health issues that he gets treated for at Duke University?

Doesn't he have health issues that he gets treated for at Duke University?

No idea.

UW Medical center is right on campus and is an excellent facility!

Any idea who sticks around? I would imagine Eric Kiesau and Tui coach the bowl game? Who calls the defense? Heyward? Unless Wilcox gets the gig.
Hard to know until the new HC hire is made. Tui would be the most likely to stick around if given similar offers (i.e. QB coach). We already know that Sark would like to bring most/all of the defensive staff with him. If Wilcox isn't hired as head coach, there would seem to be a pretty good chance Wilcox & Tosh go to USC. Interestingly, I'm hearing that Sirmon really wants to stick around, and might not be a lock to follow wherever Wilcox goes. No idea on Heyward. He's terrific IMO, and I would think Sark would try to bring him along. And if Wilcox is the DC at USC, I'd bet Heyward would join him, but maybe the new coach at the UW promotes Heyward to DC?

No idea on the offensive assistants. Kiesau is a pretty good WR coach, and clearly things were clicking for the offense this year, so one would think Sark would strongly consider trying to bring him along. I would suspect Sark will try to make room for Nansen, though you have to stash him somewhere as his only value is in recruiting.

He's Juju's uncle, so there is some value there

Not by anyone sane.

The good news for UCLA fans is it appears Scott Woodward and Jim Mora are a bad fit together, and it's unlikely Woodward goes all out to try to woo him.

Nussmeier is the name I'm seeing thrown around the most right now.

Wondering if they give McElwain a call at CSU. Was the OC before Nussmeier and actually had CSU with a winning record this year. Had similar stats as UW this year and I think UW had three times the talent.

Ty might do it for free. So would Rick and Gilby :)

Wondering if they give McElwain a call at CSU. Was the OC before Nussmeier and actually had CSU with a winning record this year. Had similar stats as UW this year and I think UW had three times the talent.
It wouldn't be a "sexy" hire, but he does appear to be a guy they ought to consider.

It wouldn't be a "sexy" hire, but he does appear to be a guy they ought to consider.

I would assume he has some West Coast connections having been the OC at Fresno and was an assistant with the Raiders for a year I think. Plus he played at Eastern Washington. Also has those national championships as the OC on his resume.

Jim Mora is apparently in Seattle (https://twitter.com/FletcherMackel/status/407627077139984384)

Pinkel's been asked before about the Washington job and if he'd take it if it ever popped up. He said he might have earlier in his career, but felt like he was at a point where starting over with a new program isn't a very attractive option.

You have to remember at this point that with one more win, Pinkel will become the all-time wins leader at Mizzou. He'll have a statue outside the gates at some point. He's also likely to get a lucrative extension at the end of the season. I would think that being the all-time leader in wins at two schools (Toledo and Missouri) is probably enough for him. And he's now got the backing of a division championship and a possible SEC championship when he heads out to recruit.

It may seem like I'm picking on you, but people who think they know what one of these guys is going to do are out of their ever loving minds. Coaches say one thing and then do whatever they want. Sark was on a radio show this morning stating he had discussions with USC, but nothing was close. A couple of hours later it was announced. There are so many more coaches who have said one thing and did another in all of college and pro sports that any denial of contact makes me convinced it happened and any talk of happiness at one spot means the guy is going elsewhere.

Even when it doesn't happen the first time (ie Roy Williams staying at Kansans when the NC job opened up), you know the next time is going to be just as bad. Pinkel may well stay at Mizzou, he may stay there for the next twenty years. Then again, he may want to return to Washington and coach there. Or, hell, he could be the head coach for the Houston Texans next week. We just don't know.

How soon til the Bobby Hauck to UW rumors start :)

:D He just signed an extension recently as a result of this season's success.

TBH, I'm not sure if this season is legit or if it's just a flash in the pan. We'll see how Sherry looks next year at QB, since Herring is graduating, I believe.. and who knows if Devante Davis stays or not.

And then there's if Adonis Smith can replace Tim Cornett at RB.

Tedford getting some traction at Wyoming's opening, though he might be able to do better

Seems like there's finally some traction to Kyle Flood being done at Rutgers.

Seems like there's finally some traction to Kyle Flood being done at Rutgers.

Really? Everything I've seen suggests the opposite, due to buyout issues and whatnot.

Just saw that Sark was the first football head coach to leave UW voluntarily for another school since 1956. Considering the amount of churn in the sport, that is an impressive stat.

Really? Everything I've seen suggests the opposite, due to buyout issues and whatnot.

Seems like the power brokers, aka the big money donors are pushing back. At least that's the way I read the post on the Scarlet Nation premium board.

Crossing my fingers, crossing my toes, and crossing whatever else i can cross.

Apparently Mora is meeting with Woodard in the next 16 hours or so

Where has this 8 million been before?

Where has this 8 million been before?

Rutgers' buyouts aren't 8M. It's 850K or so for Flood, could be a little more based on some incentives he could achieve, between 700K and 800K for the 2 coordinators and then whatever half a year of salary is for a new coaching staff.

Rutgers' buyouts aren't 8M. It's 850K or so for Flood, could be a little more based on some incentives he could achieve, between 700K and 800K for the 2 coordinators and then whatever half a year of salary is for a new coaching staff.

The 8 million is from the 3.5 million to buy out the whole staff, plus the 4-5 million to hire a whole new staff.

Just saw that Sark was the first football head coach to leave UW voluntarily for another school since 1956. Considering the amount of churn in the sport, that is an impressive stat.
Yeah, and what lowdown dirty rotten school was it that poached that coach? I'll bet it's a school that wouldn't think twice about breaking apart a few conferences...

;)

Apparently Mora is meeting with Woodard in the next 16 hours or so
Don't worry Bug, word is Mora has been able to leverage this to get better pay for his assistants and has rejected Woodward's offer.

Don't worry Bug, word is Mora has been able to leverage this to get better pay for his assistants and has rejected Woodward's offer.

Yup that's the word. Although, given Mora is on a recruiting trip with most of his staff right now anyway, on UCLA's dime, it probably would have been hard for him to make a sudden trip up to Seattle.

Crazy what it takes for UCLA's AD to step it up.

The 8 million is from the 3.5 million to buy out the whole staff, plus the 4-5 million to hire a whole new staff.

Ok, but even if you buyout these guys, there still has to be money budgeted for a coaching staff next year. This year the budgeted amount was 3.2 Mil, so that still has to be there, so now the amount to find is new salary - 3.2 M.

Yeah I have a buddy who's father is a fairly large donor, but he just likes going to games and hanging out so the son ends up interacting with the guys in the AD on his behalf. He had a conversation with one of the people in Major Gifts yesterday; the money is in place to pay the buyouts, that's not the issue. It seems like Hermann has been hesitant to pull the trigger, for reasons not related to his actual performance, and she's pretty much the only one left in the AD who isn't completely on board with firing Flood. But it seems like with the financial support coming in, and big donors being 100% against Flood now (many of whom she had to work really hard to bring back into the fold after Pernetti was let go), she doesn't have much of an option.

According to the guy, we're more likely to go after a BCS coordinator (Narduzzi) than a lower level HC (Lembo, Clawson). There's also one potential wild card.

According to the guy, we're more likely to go after a BCS coordinator (Narduzzi) than a lower level HC (Lembo, Clawson). There's also one potential wild card.

I think I'd lean more towards Narduzzi than the 2 MAC guys. Clawson's 31-31 MAC record would worry me, especially since Bowling Green wasn't awful before he took over. Lembo has done a nice job at Ball State tho.

There's gonna be concerns with anyone Rutgers hires because even the top coordinators often struggle. Hopefully Narduzzi could bring in someone to help mentor him along.

If Rutgers waits a few weeks, I hear Greg Schiano will be available again.

I know there is a show clause, or whatever it is called, but with RU going into the Big10 would Tressle be a terrible hire?

Let a coordinator handle things for the duration of the suspension then you have Tressle there to step in.

I know there is a show clause, or whatever it is called, but with RU going into the Big10 would Tressle be a terrible hire?

Let a coordinator handle things for the duration of the suspension then you have Tressle there to step in.

I don't trust the incompetence of the Rutgers' Athletic Department to not rear its head and end up with Rutgers getting the death penalty.

According to the guy, we're more likely to go after a BCS coordinator (Narduzzi) than a lower level HC (Lembo, Clawson). There's also one potential wild card.

I know there is a show clause, or whatever it is called, but with RU going into the Big10 would Tressle be a terrible hire?

Let a coordinator handle things for the duration of the suspension then you have Tressle there to step in.

Well that didn't take long.

I think there's about a 0.01% chance of it happening because the school would never have the stones to do it, but it's been said that his name is being thrown around a lot, especially from donors. The school has some ambitious plans when it comes to facilities as it grows in the B1G and money would supposedly pour in.

Yeah, and what lowdown dirty rotten school was it that poached that coach? I'll bet it's a school that wouldn't think twice about breaking apart a few conferences...

;)

http://www.fofc-bbcf.com/taters.gif

:D

If I remember my Husky history correctly, the AD at the time approached Bear Bryant about the job, and Bear suggested Royal who was coaching at Mississippi State at the time. When Royal took off for Texas a year later, the AD went back to Bear who then suggested one his assistants, Jim Owens.

And the news of Mora returning to UCLA hits the Twitterverse and media outlets... right in the middle of the USC-Sarkisian introduction PC.

Not a coincidence, I am sure.

And the news of Mora returning to UCLA hits the Twitterverse and media outlets... right in the middle of the USC-Sarkisian introduction PC.

Not a coincidence, I am sure.

The rush to hire Sark was probably to limit the fallout for the USC loss to UCLA :)

The other thing I would imagine holding RU back is that Flood has met/exceeded academic benchmarks (which some people still care about) and RU is currently one of the most subsidized programs in the country. And they just spent big money on the stadium.

A bit of a kerfuffle there yesterday, hey General Mike? Haha...

My guy is telling me the decision has already been made. Flood and co will be gone. The hangup at this point is getting more money for the next HC and staff as Hermann wants to increase the budget. But she's been told it's not coming through the AD directly and needs to be raised privately, so that's what she is working on now.

Let's keep that here :).

Yep. I think I'll just stay off ScarletNation til Flood is gone. That board is unreadable with everyone having a "source". I agree that the coaching salary pool needs to increase, but it should be easier to raise 500K to 1M when there is already an existing coaches budget to build on top of.

Dola, I lied. I can't stay away.

Only people who really follow college football will immediately get what a big deal this is, but UCLA just hired former USC RB coach Kennedy Polamalu as its new RB coach.

Polamalu is considered to be one of the best recruiters in the country and was key in getting some of the top talent USC has seen at RB the past decade.

And if you hate Kiffin, as a bonus, he is rumored to have punched out Kiffin before the Sun Bowl last year.

It may seem like I'm picking on you, but people who think they know what one of these guys is going to do are out of their ever loving minds. Coaches say one thing and then do whatever they want. Sark was on a radio show this morning stating he had discussions with USC, but nothing was close. A couple of hours later it was announced. There are so many more coaches who have said one thing and did another in all of college and pro sports that any denial of contact makes me convinced it happened and any talk of happiness at one spot means the guy is going elsewhere.

Even when it doesn't happen the first time (ie Roy Williams staying at Kansans when the NC job opened up), you know the next time is going to be just as bad. Pinkel may well stay at Mizzou, he may stay there for the next twenty years. Then again, he may want to return to Washington and coach there. Or, hell, he could be the head coach for the Houston Texans next week. We just don't know.

Oh, I had a pretty good idea. Some on the board know already, but I have a family member that works on Coach Pinkel's staff. My understanding is that Washington did call Coach Pinkel the day after Sark left. They (UW) knew he likely would say no, but did it more as a courtesy given the support that he showed the University and Coach James over the years. I thought that was a really nice gesture by Washington and I know it meant a lot to Coach Pinkel that they took time to do so.

Regardless, he confirmed today that he's not going anywhere, so we can put that to bed.

Gary Pinkel says he remains committed to Missouri Tigers - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10082360/gary-pinkel-says-remains-committed-missouri-tigers)

Hmmm, this is starting to seem like UW & Petersen might be a thing:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Washington scheduled to interview Bama OC Doug Nussmeier today, Boise's Chris Petersen Friday sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/espn">@ESPN</a></p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/statuses/408724416584228864">December 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Schad reporting it's done

@schadjoe: Chris Petersen expected to be named Washington head coach today. Will be one of highest paid in PAC-12.

I guess he really did never want to leave the NW.

Awesome news!

Wow. This will be interesting to watch.

I'm boiling over with excitment right now. I never thought Peterson would leave Boise. I have never been so happy to be wrong.

He really is a guy that I think can get us to the next level. I also think he has such great name recognition that we should be able to keep all our kids.

Really fired up right now.

So much for BSU. I can't see them bringing in anybody remotely close to Petersen's level. It would have to be a hot coordinator looking for their first HC job.

I would be beyond excited if I were a Washington fan.

So much for BSU. I can't see them bringing in anybody remotely close to Petersen's level. It would have to be a hot coordinator looking for their first HC job.

Wilcox?

I would be beyond excited if I were a Washington fan.

Yep. Happy for Lathum, dawgfan, etc.

Wilcox?

Supposedly he is going to USC with Sark. I would be surprised to see him take a job like that. I think he stay on at USC, has some success and gets a better job down the road. Plus I hear USC is paying him a lot, so it wouldn't be about the money.

Would still like to see Wilcox and Tosh stay if at all possible. Then this would really be the best case scenario. I was looking but haven't seen anything about Wilcox to USC. They already have Pendergast and would have to buy him out as well as the 1m buyout on Wilcox.

UW def. upgraded

Pete Kwiatkowski might get the reins at Boise State. He has been on the staff since their move to Div. 1A/FBS.

Bryan Hairstan of Arkie State probably gets call first

Great pick up for UW and one of the few big time schools that is a good fit for Peterson's personality and values.

Not often you lose a good young coach like Sark and actually upgrade.

Bryan Hairstan of Arkie State probably gets call first

Read on Twitter that he has a $1MM buyout.

One of my favorite things about college football off-seasons has been when fan-bases of big schools and their "inside sources" have reported that Petersen to their school was "a done deal" or "all but certain". It happened 2 or 3 times a year. So I'll definitely miss that. Washington makes a lot of sense though. One of the main reasons is I think that they might actually have realistic expectations. Petersen could have gone a lot places where he'd have to win 10 or 11 games a year or be considered a failure, and there'd be a better than 50/60 chance he'd be out looking for a lower-tiered job in 5 years or so. I think he'll have just a little more leeway in Washington, where they will probably value what he brings to the table beyond winning more than a lot of bigger schools would.

I'm excited to see what Petersen can do with the talent UW brings in. Also, I am excited because I now see Kalani's name popping up for several positions but I do know he will definitely shoot for the BSU job.

Will he get it, I doubt it. He is a DC and not an OC and I don't know how he would build his staff. I do think BSU goes in house and keeps their OC and promotes from within.

Would still like to see Wilcox and Tosh stay if at all possible. Then this would really be the best case scenario. I was looking but haven't seen anything about Wilcox to USC. They already have Pendergast and would have to buy him out as well as the 1m buyout on Wilcox.

This has probably been mentioned upthread but Wilcox was also DC for Peterson at Boise so combined with the 1 mil buyout I think Wilcox will probably stay unless offered an HC job elsewhere.

On most days, the Peterson hiring would be a top news story. I nearly missed it with the hullaballoo about the World Cup draw, Kubiak's firing, and Cano's signing with Seattle.

This has probably been mentioned upthread but Wilcox was also DC for Peterson at Boise so combined with the 1 mil buyout I think Wilcox will probably stay unless offered an HC job elsewhere.
It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. On the one hand, the buyout and the prior coaching connections between Petersen & Wilcox - not to mention having some continuity on the staff & with recruiting - would suggest it's a no-brainer for Petersen to keep Wilcox. On the other hand, I can see Petersen being a loyalist that would like to bring as much of his current staff with him.

I'm still shocked we got him - after all the noise he's made over the years about how he hates dealing with the media and isn't a big booster schmoozer, and all the other schools he's rejected, it's just a huge surprise that he accepted.

He's not a slam-dunk, but I'll be surprised if we're not winning 10+ games on a regular basis.

As long as he isn't Hawkins or Koetter ;)

As long as he isn't Hawkins or Koetter ;)
Here's the thing about that comparison:

Koetter: .722 winning %
Hawkins: .828 winning %
Petersen: .885 winning %

Also, Petersen was the OC for Hawkins at BSU. Perhaps a big part of the reason Hawkins failed at Colorado is that he didn't have Petersen with him.

Like I said, he's not a slam-dunk. His transition from an also-ran conference to the Pac-12 - which now arguably has the best collection of head coaches in the country - will be interesting to watch and isn't a guaranteed success. He'll need to bump up his recruiting regardless of how good he's been at BSU in developing players.

But the combination of his player development with the talent upgrade Sark provided at the UW is an exciting combo for the next couple of seasons.

I'm interested to see how his recruiting goes and what type of staff he puts together. The first year or two is usually relatively easy for new coaches to recruit. It's year 3 and beyond that will tell us how well he's doing.

He's going to be under more pressure than he's ever been under as well. Locally there's already talk of National Championships and the expectations I'm hearing on the radio and from fans around here just aren't realistic.

He's going to be under more pressure than he's ever been under as well. Locally there's already talk of National Championships and the expectations I'm hearing on the radio and from fans around here just aren't realistic.
What would you consider realistic expectations?

8 wins for the next two years

8 wins for the next two years
That's at the low end.

I'm sure you feel that way :)

Peterson won at Boise by finding academic risks at skill positions and on defense that couldn't qualify for Pac-12 schools. Boise accepts any player, and is hardly an elite academic institution.

Peterson, by recruiting like that, was able to have much better talent than the other WAC schools. No that the talent gap won't be so wide for him, we can finally see how he coaches over the course of a season, as opposed to a game or two a year against teams with similar or better talent.

Look at how Wittingham has fared since taking over at Utah? Same players he had while winning in a smaller conference and the switch over and he's been unable to sustain his previous success.

I think one measure of how well Petersen will do is being able to recruit Socal well. He's done it good enough in the past, but the key for most PAC-12 teams is to recruit California pretty hard.

Let the bidding war for Tosh commence! :)

The rumors of what USC was willing to pay Klemm were pretty impressive. Rumored to be 900,000. Now USC just gave UCLA a pretty good line of "USC wanted me to coach you guys" when recruiting OL.

Wilcox to BSU, it's looking like.

The comparison to Whittingham doesn't make a lot of sense. Petersen isn't taking his Boise State team into the Pac-12, he's taking over Washington's roster which has plenty of talent, far more than he had at Boise.

You give rather little credit to his ability to develop 2-3 star talent into NFL players. Now we get to see what he does with high 3-star, 4-star and a few 5-star talents. With Washington's schedule next year, a 10-2 regular season is quite possible.

The questions about Petersen are longer term - how well can he recruit at the Pac-12 level, and does he adjust his talent search upward.

I don't buy the.notion of improving 2-3 star players means success with better "talent" 4-5 stars will happen.

Part of the Utah analogy fits. Wittingham had the talent supply available to him and has been unable to adjust. He also had NFL players from 2-3 star kids, but that is unable to work. The more talent might be realive. You just told me he can turn unheralded kids into NFL players. Is UW stocked with HOF players? ;)

UW fans, like USC and UCLA fans, love recruiting. What happens when he brings in quite a few 3 stars? Will there be worry?

That's at the low end.I agree. Gotta figure he'll go at least .500 each year and get to 12 wins in those first two years. :devil:

Dave Clawson likely earned himself a nice job last night.

Utah's issues in the PAC have everything to due with depth. Whitt has yet to be able to build a team talent deep. Injuries happen and they get boned. They don't have a dearth of 3-4-5 * guys 2 to 3 deep at every spot.

Petersen going to UW is nothing like Whit. Petersen has the talent and the depth at UW to be successful and maintain it.

My point about Witt was despite being in a major conference with a lot more access, he has been unable to recruit at a high level despite success in a smaller conference. I don't disagree that UW is a bigger program than Utah.

What would you consider realistic expectations?

I don't think the talk of perennial national championship contender is realistic before he's coached a game at UW. Washington had a fantastic run from the late 70s through the early 90s, but it's still a school that has one 10 win season in 22 years. 10+ win seasons suddenly becoming the norm just doesn't seem realistic to me at this point. The team may get there, but it's asking a lot of a new coach.

I'm also not 100% sold on Petersen as a coach at the BCS level. At Boise, as Bug mentioned, he was able to take in a lot of questionable kids that other schools weren't willing to take a chance on. I don't think what he did at Boise (2010 report showed that Boise had 16 players with a criminal record) is going to fly at Washington. His recruiting is going to have to change and instead of going after players that most schools aren't going after he's now competing head to head with some of the best coaches in the country for recruits.

Auburn gave Gus Malzahn a raise, meaning he's gone from high school coach to top ten paid college coach in the span of 8 years. Not bad.

Dave Clawson likely earned himself a nice job last night.

I am pretty sure that is someone Wake's AD is talking to along with Pete Lembo. I hope Narduzzi is talked to as well. We will see.

UW fans, like USC and UCLA fans, love recruiting. What happens when he brings in quite a few 3 stars? Will there be worry?
Sure there will. But if fans see the talent on hand developing nicely, that worry will be mitigated some.

Recruiting is my biggest worry with Petersen - can he adjust and adapt to the level of recruiting he'll need to do at the UW to be successful in the Pac-12?

But the next couple of years I think he's going to do very well. The roster has a lot of talent, and Petersen & co. have proven to be very good at developing their players. Beyond that obviously his own recruits will become a bigger part of the mix, and it will be interesting to see if he can adjust.

I don't think the talk of perennial national championship contender is realistic before he's coached a game at UW. Washington had a fantastic run from the late 70s through the early 90s, but it's still a school that has one 10 win season in 22 years. 10+ win seasons suddenly becoming the norm just doesn't seem realistic to me at this point. The team may get there, but it's asking a lot of a new coach.
Perennial NC contenders is certainly highly optimistic. I don't see that happening personally. But 10 win seasons? That is entirely possible, especially the next couple of years. He's taking over a pretty talented roster, and if his player development skills are as good as they appear from his time turning 2-3 star guys into NFL players at Boise State, and his X's & O's work out at the Pac-12 level (a lot is riding on his staff), I think a big run in 2014 & 2015 is entirely possible. And if that happens, recruiting will take care of itself.

I'm also not 100% sold on Petersen as a coach at the BCS level. At Boise, as Bug mentioned, he was able to take in a lot of questionable kids that other schools weren't willing to take a chance on. I don't think what he did at Boise (2010 report showed that Boise had 16 players with a criminal record) is going to fly at Washington. His recruiting is going to have to change and instead of going after players that most schools aren't going after he's now competing head to head with some of the best coaches in the country for recruits.
Yes, recruiting is a big question mark. I suspect the 2014 UW class is going to be filled with a lot more 3 star kids and few of the 4 star guys the UW was targeting with Sark. Will he adapt? Retaining Tosh Lupoi should help.

Clawson? Srsly?

Let's just say I recall his one foray into a major conference and the notion of anyone giving him a shot beyond his current level as more than a little amusing.

Clawson? Srsly?

Let's just say I recall his one foray into a major conference and the notion of anyone giving him a shot beyond his current level as more than a little amusing.

I only know from what I've read up on him in the past week or so, but it seems like some think he was unfairly blamed for what happened in Tennessee by the pro-Fulmer crowd. Either way, he took a team that won two games a couple years back to winning the MAC. No small feat.

Wyoming looking at Illinois State's head coach. Seems appropriate since they're basically a FCS program trying hard not to be.

I only know from what I've read up on him in the past week or so, but it seems like some think he was unfairly blamed for what happened in Tennessee by the pro-Fulmer crowd. Either way, he took a team that won two games a couple years back to winning the MAC. No small feat.

I was in the anti-Fulmer crowd but still put plenty of that situation on Clawson.
{shrug}

Is auburn's oline really this good or is Missouri's dline this horrible?

Actually both defenses are horrible

Wyoming is about to hire North Dakota State head coach Craig Bohl. In general, I hate them hiring an FCS coach, but..North Dakota State has success over FBS teams, he's a guy from the region so he might be very interested in staying in Laramie long-term and I prefer him over a guy like Tedford who there's no way he's going to stay if he does well.

So we'll see. If nothing else, he'll come cheaper than someone else would've come and I suspect that's why they went down a division to get someone.

Wyoming is about to hire North Dakota State head coach Craig Bohl. In general, I hate them hiring an FCS coach, but..North Dakota State has success over FBS teams, he's a guy from the region so he might be very interested in staying in Laramie long-term and I prefer him over a guy like Tedford who there's no way he's going to stay if he does well.

So we'll see. If nothing else, he'll come cheaper than someone else would've come and I suspect that's why they went down a division to get someone.

FUCK I just saw this!

Wyoming lands Bohl as new head coach - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24368098/wyoming-lands-bohl-as-new-head-coach)

Wyoming will announce North Dakota State's Craig Bohl Sunday as its new head coach, a source told CBS Sports.

I can't tell you how annoying it is that stuff like this comes out before the season is over. It would have been really nice if this could've waited until we won again, or were knocked out. His legacy in Fargo is cemented and will live on. I really hope we keep someone in there that can keep us in that winning mindset.

One would think that it could be a pretty good job for a lot of coaches out there.

FUCK I just saw this!

Wyoming lands Bohl as new head coach - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24368098/wyoming-lands-bohl-as-new-head-coach)



I can't tell you how annoying it is that stuff like this comes out before the season is over. It would have been really nice if this could've waited until we won again, or were knocked out. His legacy in Fargo is cemented and will live on. I really hope we keep someone in there that can keep us in that winning mindset.

One would think that it could be a pretty good job for a lot of coaches out there.

Wyoming just lost their President and have like 7 senior administrators who are not occupying jobs either. There was a report by a consultant that basically said Wyoming athletics are not really providing much value for what's being spent, the AD is on his 3rd football coach and 2nd basketball coach and that's a lot of buyouts in a place where money doesn't grow on trees.

So he had pressure to get this hire done. I suspect he knew who he wanted ahead of time, had done some feelers out there to see if there was interest knowing he firing Christensen and when he found his guy, went after him.

We've seen this before in Laramie with Joe Glenn who was massively popular, but who was older and whose offense really started to lag over time. Bohl's NDSU teams had an identity and I think that's what Wyoming needs desperately, so akin to what Petersen did with going to Washington and has more resources what he did at Boise State, the hope is that Bohl can a bigger version of what he did at NDSU in Laramie.

No one expects titles, but a team that can go to bowls other than the New Mexico Bowl or Las Vegas Bowl would be a huge boon.

I think Burman did a good job here with the hire, regardless how it works out. Bohl is a better choice than any of the other guys -- outside of Gilmore with the Raiders who I would've liked to have seen get the job since he's a former player at UW.

The timing of this news really sucks. We are 3 wins away from a perfect season and 3rd straight national title. WTF?!?!?!?

And to think of how close I came to going to school in Laramie instead of Fargo. I even did the tour and registration, just decided against it in the end.

And to think of how close I came to going to school in Laramie instead of Fargo. I even did the tour and registration, just decided against it in the end.

Fargo is bigger than Laramie and Cheyenne together. I don't think you made the wrong choice. ;)

The timing of this news really sucks. We are 3 wins away from a perfect season and 3rd straight national title. WTF?!?!?!?

He'll still coach through the season, though, right? Do the FCS guys leave their teams like FBS teams do once they announce?

The timing of this news really sucks. We are 3 wins away from a perfect season and 3rd straight national title. WTF?!?!?!?

Under the circumstances that's kinda my reaction too and I don't even have a dog in the fight.

I'm reminded of that old saying about relationships: if they'll cheat with you then they'll cheat on you. If he has success at Wyoming, don't be shocked when he's making another move to greener pastures in a couple of years.

He'll still coach through the season, though, right? Do the FCS guys leave their teams like FBS teams do once they announce?

It doesn't really matter that much either way. It'll still be a huge distraction.

Fargo is bigger than Laramie and Cheyenne together. I don't think you made the wrong choice. ;)

I planned to go there my Jr and Sr years and finish a degree in Astrophysics. However, math proved to be my undoing my sophomore year that career path fell by the wayside. I did like it there though. It would have been alright.

Under the circumstances that's kinda my reaction too and I don't even have a dog in the fight.

I'm reminded of that old saying about relationships: if they'll cheat with you then they'll cheat on you. If he has success at Wyoming, don't be shocked when he's making another move to greener pastures in a couple of years.

North Dakota State's Bohl will become Wyoming's next head coach : Wyoming (http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/north-dakota-state-s-bohl-will-become-wyoming-s-next/article_b8452a01-7adb-508b-b13d-e9696d2ae385.html)

Wyoming hasn't had a coach worth a damn in a long time as in, someone who anyone else wanted, so if he wants to go there and fix things up and bolt at age 60 more power to him.

This is a very Petersen-like move. He doesn't really have to move outside of the region. Only FBS program in the Rocky Mountain West are Idaho, Wyoming, Boise State, Colorado and Colorado State. That's it. He wouldn't have wanted Idaho and he wasn't ever going to get any of those other three jobs.

So he had to strike while the iron is hot.

Taylor said the current base salary of the contract is $206,503. The annual salary will be increased by a minimum of five percent per year effective July 1, 2013, contingent on performance evaluations.

The contract includes a 3 percent of gross home football regular season single-game and season ticket sales. There are also incentives for a Missouri Valley Football Conference Championship ($10,000), Football Championship Subdivision home ($5,000) and away ($2,500) playoff games, a FCS runner-up finish ($10,000) and a FCS championship ($15,000).

The contract includes provisions for the assistant coaches to receive compensation for a conference championship ($1,500), FCS home ($1,500) and away ($750) playoff games, a FCS runner-up finish ($1,500) and a FCS championship ($2,000). It also states the yearly budget for assistant coach salaries shall be in the top 10 percent of FCS football programs.

That's from the release last year when he signed an 8-year extension.

For perspective, Wyoming's recently fired coach was making a base of $190k but his total compensation was $1.2 million. If they offered Bohl a $1 million in total compensation -- and he's brought them two titles -- he probably had to realize he just wasn't going to get a chance like this again and if he waited, Wyoming would've gone on and found someone else.

Auburn gave Gus Malzahn a raise, meaning he's gone from high school coach to top ten paid college coach in the span of 8 years. Not bad.And he's still underpaid.

And he's still underpaid.

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets an NFL offer at some point.

The timing of this news really sucks. We are 3 wins away from a perfect season and 3rd straight national title. WTF?!?!?!?

Sounds like he's going to finish the season.

And I did not know Wyoming paid their football coach that much. It's actually kind of embarrassing for Minnesota as that is about on par with how much Jerry Kill makes I think.

Sounds like he's going to finish the season.

Yup. Reports coming out he's coaching through the playoffs. No reason not to really.

I'm back to no confidence in the Rutgers' Athletic department to do what needs to be done.

Edit: And Kyle Flood is coming back. Well that's that. Apathy has set in.

I'm back to no confidence in the Rutgers' Athletic department to do what needs to be done.

Edit: And Kyle Flood is coming back. Well that's that. Apathy has set in.

Sickened.

I'm back to no confidence in the Rutgers' Athletic department to do what needs to be done.

Edit: And Kyle Flood is coming back. Well that's that. Apathy has set in.

Really strange decision to keep him. With the move to the Big 10 next year his chances of keeping his job beyond next season appear to be slim. That makes it difficult to bring in new assistants and it gives other coaches ammo to recruit against Flood.

Really strange decision to keep him. With the move to the Big 10 next year his chances of keeping his job beyond next season appear to be slim. That makes it difficult to bring in new assistants and it gives other coaches ammo to recruit against Flood.

Of course, but this is Rutgers. If there was a book on small time thinking, someone in the Rutgers athletic department would have written it.

Bohl's guarantee for the first three years in Wyoming is $750k. A win win. Huge raise for Bohl and Wyoming got to be "cost efficient" on this hire to boot, without sacrificing a possible good fit.

http://trib.com/news/opinion/blogs/cowboys/wyoming-coach-craig-bohl-s-general-contract-overview/article_75b70be9-0ebd-5834-9a0c-be212b13fe08.html

Outside of Tressel, once I heard the names of the guys Rutgers was going after, I knew we were fucked. I would have greatly preferred Dave Clawson to bringing Flood back, and would have been extremely happy to get a guy like Narduzzi who would have been able to get us to at least a competitive level in the B1G, with some upside. Our donor base was delusional to think we could do, or deserve to do, any better.

Really strange decision to keep him. With the move to the Big 10 next year his chances of keeping his job beyond next season appear to be slim. That makes it difficult to bring in new assistants and it gives other coaches ammo to recruit against Flood.

Yeah, the decision to keep seems ... strange.

I mean, wouldn't the conference switch be the time to make the change, not a year later?

Please stop trying to make sense of this. Our AD has and will always continue to be a joke. If the school was located 75 miles further south we'd be discussing dropping down a level in football entirely.

Outside of Tressel, once I heard the names of the guys Rutgers was going after, I knew we were fucked. I would have greatly preferred Dave Clawson to bringing Flood back, and would have been extremely happy to get a guy like Narduzzi who would have been able to get us to at least a competitive level in the B1G, with some upside. Our donor base was delusional to think we could do, or deserve to do, any better.

I wouldn't prefer Dave Clawson or Narduzzi to making a switch.

As far as I'm concerned if you're going to fire a coach with a winning record after his second year, it better be a big name like Tressel. Otherwise, it sets bad expectations for coaches after the second year.

That winning record means absolutely nothing when it's built on beating up horrible teams. We didn't beat a winning team this year...0-5. Similar results last year. If Temple didn't stupidly go for a 4th and inches with a shotgun run, we finish 5-7 and miss a bowl game.

Clawson and Narduzzi have HoF-type accomplishments during their careers compared to what Flood had when he fell into this job.

That winning record means absolutely nothing when it's built on beating up horrible teams.

Ah, you mean the model that keeps Georgia Tech's bowl streak alive? ;)

More seriously though, that same thing could be said for a lot of teams that have winning records/are going bowling. I understand the frustration but at the same time, that's probably life outside of a relatively handful of truly major programs.

Your 6 wins this year are Sagarin ranked:
233, 201, 80, 104, 119, 143

An 8-4 team beat Sagarin
133, 162, 200, 46, 100, 85, 141, 148

Basically the difference between Rutgers & Boise State is a win over Utah State ... and is that really something to write home about?

That winning record means absolutely nothing when it's built on beating up horrible teams. We didn't beat a winning team this year...0-5. Similar results last year. If Temple didn't stupidly go for a 4th and inches with a shotgun run, we finish 5-7 and miss a bowl game.

Clawson and Narduzzi have HoF-type accomplishments during their careers compared to what Flood had when he fell into this job.

I'm somewhere in the middle between you and Jon. I agree you don't want to set unrealistic expectations, and I don't mind some of the tough losses we've had over the years, but the blowout losses do bother me. Losing to a terrible UConn team bothers me. Barely getting by SMU and more so Temple bother me.

But when it comes down to it, It's not my money and I can understand why people putting up the big cash would want a flashy hire.

Like I wrote on scarlet nation, when it comes down to it next year, if Rutgers has to make a coaching change next year, similar candidates are going to be there. There will be a young coordinator from a major school, there will be MAC head coaches to hire. My bigger concern is that we are potentially digging an even deeper hole to get out of.

Hopefully we can bring in a good defensive coordinator and we can get more out of the players on our defense, because I think we do have talent back there.

I am pretty sure that is someone Wake's AD is talking to along with Pete Lembo. I hope Narduzzi is talked to as well. We will see.

Clawson it is.

Wake Forest Demon Deacons hire coach Dave Clawson of Bowling Green Falcons - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10112186/wake-forest-demon-deacons-hire-coach-dave-clawson-bowling-green-falcons)

Hilarious Prank: The Airport In Austin, Texas Paged For Nick Saban This Morning | College Spun – Social. Local. Consumable. College Sports. (http://collegespun.com/big-12/texas-big-12/the-airport-in-austin-texas-paged-for-nick-saban-this-morning)

Mack Brown is stepping down after 16 years. Orangebloods.com tweeted this a few minutes ago.

Mack Brown is stepping down after 16 years. Orangebloods.com tweeted this a few minutes ago.

Watch out...the dominos will start falling now...

Speaking of Narduzzi...

UConn seeks to interview Michigan State football DC Pat Narduzzi for head coach opening | MLive.com (http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2013/12/report_uconn_seeks_to_intervie.html)

Dude more than deserves a shot at being a HC. Can't wait to have him gone from MSU as well. :D

Mack Brown is stepping down after 16 years. Orangebloods.com tweeted this a few minutes ago.

Those Orangebloods guys are just the mouthpiece for Deloss Dodds. You can't trust anything they say.

Sounds like it is going to come down to the outcome of a regents meeting to discuss whether or not Bill Powers, the president of UT-Austin stays on the job. If he goes, Brown leaves for sure.

I hear that Gary Pinkel is linked to the job. Clearly, Texas is jealous of Missouri's success and wants it all for themselves. Expect an announcement in next 29 minutes.

Mack Brown denies report that he is stepping down as Texas Longhorns coach - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10115293/mack-brown-denies-report-stepping-texas-longhorns-coach)

Just like Dodds denied the OB report that he was stepping down...

@FollowtheFrogs: Source close to Texas executive council of regents says Nick Saban will be next Longhorns coach.

I think a fun question would be figuring out who the frontrunner for a hypothetical vacancy at Bama would be.

I think a fun question would be figuring out who the frontrunner for a hypothetical vacancy at Bama would be.

Bama fans on their board are saying that their defensive coordinator is the frontrunner.

Bama fans on their board are saying that their defensive coordinator is the frontrunner.

That's one hell of a first head coaching gig

The obvious choice if Bama wants to get a chuckle out of everyone would be to hire Urban Meyer.

The obvious choice if Bama wants to get a chuckle out of everyone would be to hire Urban Meyer.

The names Spurrier, Muschamp and Malzahn also came to mind :D

So if Saban is indeed going to be the next coach at UT, that means he'd have to do a show on the Longhorn Network. If the show was in the evening, I wonder what the name of the show would be?

So if Saban is indeed going to be the next coach at UT, that means he'd have to do a show on the Longhorn Network. If the show was in the evening, I wonder what the name of the show would be?

The Nick Saban Evening Gala Extravaganza Variety Hour?

I think a fun question would be figuring out who the frontrunner for a hypothetical vacancy at Bama would be.

We all know it would be Pinkell and he would be an improvement since he played in the SEC title game.

dola I think Mark Dantonio would be a really good fit there.-

dola I think Mark Dantonio would be a really good fit there.-

He'd have to spend a few seasons at LSU first.

The Nick Saban Evening Gala Extravaganza Variety Hour?

We were looking for the bit more succinct "Nick at Night"

We were looking for the bit more succinct "Nick at Night"

I thought of that first but have heard that somewhere before

Bama fans on their board are saying that their defensive coordinator is the frontrunner.
Isn't Kirby Smart already their "coach in waiting"?

So if Saban is indeed going to be the next coach at UT, that means he'd have to do a show on the Longhorn Network. If the show was in the evening, I wonder what the name of the show would be?

If no one is able to see the show, does it even matter what it's called?

You mean like the people that can't see your otiose posts because they have you on ignore?

dola I think Mark Dantonio would be a really good fit there.-

I think he's got some health issues that are a bit of an ongoing concern.

We all know it would be Pinkell and he would be an improvement since he played in the SEC title game.

Oh the irony... hasn't he turned down UDub twice now? I think they were even turned down by Quin Snyder. :lol:

Oh the irony... hasn't he turned down UDub twice now? I think they were even turned down by Quin Snyder. :lol:

I loved that you didn't even intentionally miss the point.

I loved that you didn't even intentionally miss the point.

Confused him and Duckman, my apologies. Thanks though for the clarifcation I know you are real concerned when Mizzou bashing is misinterpreted. Good game last Saturday.

Nah, I like it when people try to be obtuse and missed the point

As for the game, it happens. I'll take another 10 losses and still be thankful for 4.8 :)

You mean like the people that can't see your otiose posts because they have you on ignore?

Every time I think I have all the words down, I have to go and look one up.

We all know it would be Pinkell and he would be an improvement since he played in the SEC title game.

Why would Gary leave the best program in the history of the world?



P.S. Poor Arkansas State...can't keep a coach more than one year.

Boise State hires Arkansas State coach Bryan Harsin (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/12/11/bryan-harsin-arkansas-state-coach-boise-state/3986101/)

Boise State brings Bryan Harsin home.

Every time I think I have all the words down, I have to go and look one up.

Wait? That's a word- I thought it was a typo. Learned something new today :)

SI

Every time I think I have all the words down, I have to go and look one up.

Yeah its a good one... though I do have to chuckle when someone is always on the cusp of being placed on ignore (due to the useless nature of their posts) but yet every post they make still gets a response.

Why would Gary leave the best program in the history of the world?



P.S. Poor Arkansas State...can't keep a coach more than one year.

Going on their 4th coach in 4 years I believe. Perhaps the AD is over-qualified for that position and needs a bigger program.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/college-photos/20131210-candidates-to-replace-mack-brown-a-listers-plan-b-and-a-darkhorse.ece

Insert "not sure if serious" Joker image.

Going on their 4th coach in 4 years I believe. Perhaps the AD is over-qualified for that position and needs a bigger program.

Yup, but that's what happens when you're Arky State. Alternatively, they could hire an old coach who will stay until retirement. Tough on players, but so long as the schemes don't change dramatically and a lot of the core staff remain, then it's just a new CEO-figure in place.

Not like ArkyState is churning out tons of pros anyway, so...it sucks for the players, but again...what would they rather have -- good coaches who go on to bigger and better -- or some dude who is just mailing it in to retire.

Most of that list is pretty ridiculous. NFL coaches? Urban Meyer? Jimbo Fisher? Jim Mora?

The names Spurrier, Muschamp and Malzahn also came to mind :D

They're barely candidates. It's obvious that the next Bama coach, based on his ridiculous skyrocketing career arc, is Lane Kiffin.

Even better, all of the SEC already hates him.

Most of that list is pretty ridiculous. NFL coaches? Urban Meyer? Jimbo Fisher? Jim Mora?

I stopped reading after Mike Tomlin.