So who is in this year? I havent bought a Madden game in 3 or 4 years now. I have only been buying NCAA, but this year I will be going pro. I really enjoyed the last time madden had the dynasty mode and I'm hoping that it will be improved from last time. Hoping for something along the line of the head coach series they did.

I pre-ordered the special Amazon edition to get the free Sunday Ticket.

+1 on both comments.

Sounds like a decent offer but reading though the fine print I won't be able to get it on my TV for free and likely won't be able to get it on the computer if I have a directv account already. I am reading this correctly?

Sounds like a decent offer but reading though the fine print I won't be able to get it on my TV for free and likely won't be able to get it on the computer if I have a directv account already. I am reading this correctly?

If you have DirecTV, but are not a Sunday Ticket subscriber, you still can watch it on a computer/mobile device.

Amazon.com - Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_376741782_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1001215841&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_r=0YW5PKFW3CT3W0NTJX52&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=1588469262&pf_rd_i=B00CF7KVMI)

If I have DirecTV service but not NFL Sunday Ticket, what does this offer me?
You can use the included code to access NFL Sunday Ticket on computer, tablet, and mobile devices.

If you have DirecTV, but are not a Sunday Ticket subscriber, you still can watch it on a computer/mobile device.

Amazon.com - Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_376741782_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1001215841&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_r=0YW5PKFW3CT3W0NTJX52&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=1588469262&pf_rd_i=B00CF7KVMI)

Cool. I usually call and haggle em down to like $150-$200 but if I can get a game I was going to order anyways and pay about $40 more for computer access that may be the route I will go. Though there usually is a thread that tells how different members are haggling them down with pointers and suggestions on what to say. (Off to go bump that thread right now! :) )

Last year I bought Madden, then NBA 2k came out like a month later and I traded it in. Madden's issues with me are the same and I'm sure they always will be. Find the certain plays that work everytime and it's over. Skewed statistics don't help, either. From way too many tackles for my players, to leading the league in receiving yards. Let's just say let's go FOF

This'll be my first Madden purchase in 3 years. And I didn't really play that more than a few times. Basically, next gen Madden has been a total bust for me.

If there is a true coach mode and spectator mode and I can coach against my friends online in career mode, then I will pick it up.

Unlikely for me.

Nothing to do with the game.

My reasons:

1) GTA5
2) New consoles. By the time I'm done with GTA5, I'll be making the decision on a new console. If it is a yes, the last thing I'll want to do is buy things for the old one. If it is a no, I'll consider it based off of reviews and the like.
3) NCAA 14 is very likely going to be enough for my arcade football needs this year.
4) By the time I am in decision making mode, FOF will be out.
5) Last thing. . . I haven't been a huge NHL player over the last few year even with the great reviews. But having a classic '94 version with the game? I'm sorry, but I'm in.


All those things combined mean I am very unlikely to purchase Madden this year.

I don't really think you need to get to #5 to make that decision, but it seems like the "classic" mode is just going to be blue ice and simpler controls. Everything else appears to be the same as the current-gen versions.

Been playing around with Madden '12 lately and it plays a pretty good game of football with the right sliders. But, I pick up Madden every year and this year will be no different.

I pre-ordered the special Amazon edition to get the free Sunday Ticket.

Me too, and then bought ps3 so I can play it!

Have the Sunday ticket offer preordered as well. Pretty excited about that.

Have the Sunday ticket offer preordered as well. Pretty excited about that.

Heck yeah, I got a PS3 w/ four games, Madden and Sunday Ticket all for about what Sunday Ticket normally costs.

Demo is out, I have it downloaded.. but haven't had a chance to play it yet.. impressions anyone?

I'm on the silver account, so I have to wait another week. Almost broke down and bought a 1 month subscription just to download the demo.

Demo seems solid, plays a little faster than NCAA I think. The graphics are impressive but I'll be holding off for the XBox One version because there does seem to be a significant upgrade in regards to the graphics between the two.

Play-wise, I think its pretty solid. I am very intrigued though about the owner mode for on-line play.

I called a play and there was 10 players on each side of the ball. The icon for 11 on each were there, but the player was missing. Naturally when I threw to him it was incomplete.

Demo seems solid, plays a little faster than NCAA I think. The graphics are impressive but I'll be holding off for the XBox One version because there does seem to be a significant upgrade in regards to the graphics between the two.

Play-wise, I think its pretty solid. I am very intrigued though about the owner mode for on-line play.

If you buy current gen madden, you can trade it into GameStop for $50 credit towards next gen Madden.

If you buy current gen madden, you can trade it into GameStop for $50 credit towards next gen Madden.

Thanks. I was going to just wait for Next Gen (Xbox), but that is a good enough deal that I will get current gen to hold me over.

Wow, that's definitely a very solid trade-in deal. Thanks Seg!

What a horrible camera angle.. I know there will be a bunch in the release but I can't stand the demo one.

Doesn't do much for me.. but Madden hasn't in a very long time. I'll check out next gen.

With NCAA, I doubt I'd play Madden much with what I've seen from the demo... that and hopefully a FOF7 coming out.

I think I spent a total of 3 hours on Madden 24.

It just boggles the mind how many easy bugs go unfixed every year and so many people still run out and buy this new. My friend and I keep trying to find ways to enjoy madden 13, but we keep finding shit out like when we play connected careers as specific players, the game has no idea how to handle simulation of the plays that occur when we aren't on the field. We often find our team has a time of possession of about half our opponent, or vice versa depending on which side of the ball we play on. When playing as linebackers, I noticed the game doesn't track catches allowed at all. Not in this mode anyway.

It is really a bad game considering the last generation actually had fully functional and fairly high quality games coming out toward the end of its run. You'd think patching on upgraded graphics and keeping the same damn engine and game in place would have been a good start. It all makes me wish there were about 100 Jim Gindins over at EA handling this shit.

The 09 version for the original XBox was outstanding.

What a horrible camera angle.. I know there will be a bunch in the release but I can't stand the demo one.

Doesn't do much for me.. but Madden hasn't in a very long time. I'll check out next gen.

With NCAA, I doubt I'd play Madden much with what I've seen from the demo... that and hopefully a FOF7 coming out.

I wonder endlessly why I cannot put the camera wherever the fuck I want to. Does that take more computing power or something? I mean its all being played on the same field in the same 3D environment, so why the hell can't I just put the camera wherever?

I wonder endlessly why I cannot put the camera wherever the fuck I want to. Does that take more computing power or something? I mean its all being played on the same field in the same 3D environment, so why the hell can't I just put the camera wherever?

Maybe they will have that option in the final release.. not the best decision to put one crappy camera in the demo however.

I'm waiting on next gen before I buy Madden.

Maybe they will have that option in the final release.. not the best decision to put one crappy camera in the demo however.

I gave up on Madden 12 and asked my wife to stop buying them for me for my birthday when I could not follow the flight of the ball on a pass due to the camera angle.

Yes, for whatever reason, THAT was the issue that pushed me over the brink.

If you buy current gen madden, you can trade it into GameStop for $50 credit towards next gen Madden.
One thing to remember is that you have to buy the current gen version at Gamestop to get this deal. At least that is the way I understood it.

I almost put down $100 on version for NFL Ticket but decided against it..

I will wait two months when it's $30 less most likely.

I looked at it as getting the Sunday Ticket with Madden 25 thrown in.

If I had DirecTV, I would have jumped all over that deal though.

I gave up on Madden 12 and asked my wife to stop buying them for me for my birthday when I could not follow the flight of the ball on a pass due to the camera angle.

Yes, for whatever reason, THAT was the issue that pushed me over the brink.

Oh how I miss NFL 2k

You don't need direct tv for the Sunday ticket

You don't need direct tv for the Sunday ticket

I thought if you were in an eligible market, you had to either acquire DirecTV or you couldn't take advantage of the offer.

I thought if you were in an eligible market, you had to either acquire DirecTV or you couldn't take advantage of the offer.

Nope, this was confirmed by amazon.

Are we sure that current DirecTV customers can get this or is it only for new DirecTV customers... By that I mean Sunday Ticket through your DirecTV box, not the online version...

4784 so here is what I'm talking about. Harvin is on the outside. Or, at least his shadow is.

Are we sure that current DirecTV customers can get this or is it only for new DirecTV customers... By that I mean Sunday Ticket through your DirecTV box, not the online version...

Current DirectTV customers who don't get Sunday Ticket will only get the online version.

What the hell did they do to the camera angle? Everyone looks like ants on my 32" set.

Cant cover a shadow!

But seriously, the fact that this stuff makes it through whatever kind of testing they put the game through shows that they couldn't care less about the overall quality of their product. There's this, the inability of the game to track some stats properly when you actually play the games, the broken super-sim mode, the terrible computer A.I..

I would gladly buy a game from 2K if they would just release one with fake rosters and generic teams with the ability for users to edit and upload uniforms and rosters. Hell, I might even play with the fake rosters and generic teams. Anything to give me a better football experience than the facade called Madden.

What the hell did they do to the camera angle? Everyone looks like ants on my 32" set.

It's the only one for the demo and sucks. Not sure what they were thinking there.

Can we get FOF7 yet?

I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes the new camera angle more than the previous ones.

After playing a couple of games, I just can't see plunking down sixty bucks for it. Maybe when they get it down into the thirty dollar range, I'll check it out.

After playing a couple of games, I just can't see plunking down sixty bucks for it. Maybe when they get it down into the thirty dollar range, I'll check it out.

They paid me over $100 for my copy

Played a couple of games and I'm still excited for the full game.

I remember 7 or 8 years ago I used to take a half day from work the day Madden was released so I could pick it up and play all afternoon. It has been a while since I've done that.

That said, I actually pre-ordered it this year, but that was just to get the direct tv deal so I can get Sunday ticket. I'll give the game a shot since I bought it, but I don't even know what the new features are this year. This series is in desperate need of some competition.

It's out today. Anybody had a chance to play it yet?

its also free in the apple app store. maybe permanently, dunno

I was able to spend about half a day with the early access version. <O:p</O:p
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From that limited play time, I'll say it's solid. It does need slider adjustments to reduce QB accuracy and offensive line performance, while boosting the defence. Out of the box just doesn't work. <O:p</O:p
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NCAA 14 this year, with BYU's sliders, is the best console football gaming experience I've ever had. Madden is a bit shy of that bliss level - but I still found it enjoyable in its own way. <O:p</O:p
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If you played and enjoyed Madden 13, it doesn't appear that anything has become worse. Gameplay seems better, the infinity engine has been smoothed out - no more rubber legged marionettes....or at least less of them. Running feels fantastic.<O:p</O:p
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I did notice some issues in connected franchise mode were fixed. <O:p</O:p
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These are issues that killed 13 for me...stuff like CPU teams going into the season with only 1 QB and not signing a backup even after an injury. <O:p</O:p
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They also appear to have addressed the fact that players never regress by upping the xp requirements drastically for older players. Didn't have enough time to validate that after multiple seasons though.<O:p</O:p
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NCAA 14 draft class importing seemed pretty good - the players were a bit overpowered, but then I remembered I was using a custom roster that bumped up initial ratings - so that could have been the culprit there.<O:p</O:p
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There's a need to turn relocation off, though, unless you want to see the Rams bolt for Mexico City and some truly awful uniforms every time you fire up a new franchise.<O:p</O:p
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There are also no penalties to speak of.<O:p</O:p
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On operation sports, there's a lot of rage about the game again. I don't see it. Yes, it's Madden 13.5, but I don't understand why people still get mad about that...we've been seeing incremental improvements for 25 years now...why the huge angst when it happens again? <O:p</O:p
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It's worth the price to me.<O:p</O:p

The huge angst is probably because this gen still hasn't caught up to last gen. The game play is worse, the bugs are more obvious, and relevant features of the game are fewer in number. We as gamers want to have hope. We want to be ale to play a football sim that fucking works and plays a decent game of football in the process.

It doesn't help that review companies give this game high marks when it is one of the most buggy, horribly executed games possible, considering how huge the franchise is and how much time and money is supposedly spent on developing it. It is a worthless disc of shit that EA convinces millions to spend 60 dollars on every single year. I haven't paid full price for or played an edition more than Madden 07 for last gen. I keep wanting to. DESPERATELY. But I can't in good conscience give money to EA for producing another brick of shit, whether it comes with Sunday Ticket or not.

Can we start a petition to get 2k to release a football game with generic teams and editable rosters/uniforms that can be shared?

The huge angst is probably because this gen still hasn't caught up to last gen. The game play is worse, the bugs are more obvious, and relevant features of the game are fewer in number. We as gamers want to have hope. We want to be ale to play a football sim that fucking works and plays a decent game of football in the process.

It doesn't help that review companies give this game high marks when it is one of the most buggy, horribly executed games possible, considering how huge the franchise is and how much time and money is supposedly spent on developing it. It is a worthless disc of shit that EA convinces millions to spend 60 dollars on every single year. I haven't paid full price for or played an edition more than Madden 07 for last gen. I keep wanting to. DESPERATELY. But I can't in good conscience give money to EA for producing another brick of shit, whether it comes with Sunday Ticket or not.

FYI, Kotaku gave it a "don't buy" today.

Anyone have a good slider set ala BYU's for NCAA?

The huge angst is probably because this gen still hasn't caught up to last gen. The game play is worse, the bugs are more obvious, and relevant features of the game are fewer in number. We as gamers want to have hope. We want to be ale to play a football sim that fucking works and plays a decent game of football in the process.

It doesn't help that review companies give this game high marks when it is one of the most buggy, horribly executed games possible, considering how huge the franchise is and how much time and money is supposedly spent on developing it. It is a worthless disc of shit that EA convinces millions to spend 60 dollars on every single year. I haven't paid full price for or played an edition more than Madden 07 for last gen. I keep wanting to. DESPERATELY. But I can't in good conscience give money to EA for producing another brick of shit, whether it comes with Sunday Ticket or not.

Tell us how you REALLY feel. :p

It doesn't help that review companies give this game high marks when it is one of the most buggy, horribly executed games possible, considering how huge the franchise is and how much time and money is supposedly spent on developing it. It is a worthless disc of shit that EA convinces millions to spend 60 dollars on every single year. I haven't paid full price for or played an edition more than Madden 07 for last gen. I keep wanting to. DESPERATELY. But I can't in good conscience give money to EA for producing another brick of shit, whether it comes with Sunday Ticket or not.

The Video Game Show podcast discussed the review issues with EA games on one of their recent shows. Basically, EA throws marketing dollars to websites, podcasts, tv, etc., but they do it with a stipulation. If you take any of their marketing dollars directly, you have to sign an agreement that you will only publish a review if it reaches a certain level. If you feel it deserves less than that certain level, you just agree to not publish a review of that game. You also cannot publish any articles that they deem critical of their company.

Note that some sites get around this issue by signing up with services like Google Ads that may carry ads from EA, but you're not paying them directly or signing any agreements with EA. In those cases, you may see EA advertising and critical reviews on the same site.

The Video Game Show podcast discussed the review issues with EA games on one of their recent shows. Basically, EA throws marketing dollars to websites, podcasts, tv, etc., but they do it with a stipulation. If you take any of their marketing dollars directly, you have to sign an agreement that you will only publish a review if it reaches a certain level. If you feel it deserves less than that certain level, you just agree to not publish a review of that game. You also cannot publish any articles that they deem critical of their company.

Note that some sites get around this issue by signing up with services like Google Ads that may carry ads from EA, but you're not paying them directly or signing any agreements with EA. In those cases, you may see EA advertising and critical reviews on the same site.

That's not too surprising or dastardly.

I think there are more than enough game review websites out there that don't and never will accept that kind of deal from EA or any other company. Most people know what those sites are and tend to rely on them, more than the larger review sites, for game reviews. And, to be honest, the people that aren't aware of these sites and/or simply rely on the reviews of the larger game sites aren't likely to be swayed by reviews in the first place. Most likely they pre-ordered the game, ran out on day one to buy it, or ignore negative reviews.

Well, I do agree that some of the things EA does are disappointing. <O:p</O:p
I'd love to see more realistic QB play/errant throws, line interaction, more appropriate subs and penalties. <O:p</O:p
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But they are a giant, amoral money making behemoth, so they're going to focus on doing things that make them big bags of amoral money...hopefully the series will continue to show SOME respect to people who want a "sim" type of experience. I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime, I'll play what I can get and extract whatever enjoyment I can from their product.<O:p</O:p

These are the sliders I used in my time with Season Ticket (early access).
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I'm not the best "stick skills" guy on the planet, or even on my street, so challenge may be lacking for some. I did end up pretty similar to some of the sets on OS - and the penalty sliders are "borrowed" from someone on there...but I don't recall who.

<O:p</O:pSkill Level - All-pro (changes to custom)<O:p> </O:p>
Injuries - 50<O:p</O:p
Fatigue - 50<O:p</O:p
Game Speed - Slow<O:p</O:p
Player Minimum Threshold - 25<O:p</O:p
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Penalties
Offside - 100<O:p</O:p
False Start - 100<O:p</O:p
Holding - 65<O:p</O:p
Facemask - 40<O:p</O:p
DPI - 35<O:p</O:p
OPI - 35<O:p</O:p
KR/PR Interference - 50<O:p</O:p
Clipping - 57<O:p</O:p
Int Grounding - 75<O:p</O:p
Roughing The Passer - 54<O:p</O:p
Roughing the Kicker - 50<O:p</O:p
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Sliders - Hum/CPU <O:p</O:p
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QB ACC 20/20<O:p</O:p
Pass Blocking 35/35<O:p</O:p
WR Catching 45/45<O:p</O:p
Run Blocking 30/30<O:p</O:p
Fumbles 50/50<O:p</O:p
Reaction Time 60/60<O:p</O:p
Interceptions 30/30<O:p</O:p
Pass Coverage 65/65<O:p</O:p
Tackling 55/55

<O:p</O:p***Note: There is a "stuck in the mud" type of glitch on toss plays when you play on slow. In my experience, a fast back can still get to the outside despite it. If you play on normal speed, it doesn't happen - I just can't play that fast. Too old.<O:p</O:p

FYI, Kotaku gave it a "don't buy" today.

Kotaku earned a fan.

Tell us how you REALLY feel. :p

I was over at operation sports this morning checking out the early bug reports and just got myself riled up pretty good. I feel so damn helpless. Thank the heavens for Jim Gindin.

After playing a couple of games, I just can't see plunking down sixty bucks for it. Maybe when they get it down into the thirty dollar range, I'll check it out.

I had my daughter pick it up today from where she works because she get a 15% discount. I'm soooo weak. :(

Got the game in the mail…firing it up after dinner. Got the Steeler pack as well, FFIW.

Got the game in the mail…firing it up after dinner. Got the Steeler pack as well, FFIW.

Are those packs going to be DLC as some point? Are they doing all 32 teams?

Played my first game. Needless to say, tweaks need to be made.

I was the Colts playing the Raiders (week 1 matchup game)

I won 63-3. Stats on the game.
Luck broke the game TD pass record with 8. He also ran one in.
Wayne's stat line: 14-292-4
Luck TDs (8) > Raider 1st Downs (5)
Bit too easy on Pro.

One observation. There's an illegal set of plays on the Colts playbook. They have an I-form formation called Hulk (I've used it in the college game). It has no one covering the tackle on one side. How do they miss this?

Passing is fun, but will get old if it's that easy. Didn't run enough to get a feel for it, but doesn't seem as intuitive as NCAA 14.

With sliders, the game will be fun, I think, but I'll pass on the next gen one unless I see ratings of 95% across the board…which I'm not holding my breath on.

I have played 4 separate games until halftime. So far I am enjoying the game. Haven't run into any big issues.

Mine is out for delivery. Making sure to get some work done before it arrives

Game 2:
Colts (me) 23, Panthers 17.
All-Pro Default

Much better game. I threw 3 picks, but I didn't feel like they were absurd. The quick read I make in the college game when a DB is off the WR is to audible to a curl route. That usually works. In this game, I didn't read the zone right and got picked off by the under coverage man.

Newton ripped off a cool 40 yard run when I had coverage but no one spying on him. Later, I kept a key on him and got a safety after pinning them on a punt at the one.

On All-Pro, CPU will use RB spins more often and usually at a great time. Small gripe, they look a little arcady.

Overall, I'm a bit more impressed now. It'll be a nice complement to the NCAA game.

Still playing around with the demo until my daughter gets home. I'm noticing an issue that was in '13 as well (playing on All-Pro Default): If the defense is in a Cover 2, the streak routes down the sideline are money. I played with the Ravens and my two outside receivers had 11 catches and an average of 25 yards per catch.

I was able to tighten that flaw up somewhat on '13 with sliders but I hope it isn't this easy in the retail version of Madden 25.

Just got my anniversary edition. Accessed my sunday ticket streaming. Never even asked me if I was unable to receive directv. This will end up being just about the best $100 ive ever spent even if Madden sucks.

Just finished my first full game. Broncos at Packers(me).

I beat the Broncos 21 to 16. Manning threw over350 yards but also threw 3 picks. Rodgers only threw for 240, but I was trying to run the ball which I found very difficult. Lacy had 76 yards on 18 carries.

Overall I like the game and very happy I purchased Madden this year.

Have they ever said why on current gen they still do not have in game saves?

Backed out of the $100 version when I just couldn't justify it if I'm away half the season at Colts games. Will regret that the first time the Colts aren't on local TV.

Anyway, my son and I played a game. Played great, fun game, but had a weird thing happen. I got a pass interference call against……my center!!!! :confused: Hit replay and he was just pass blocking and pushed the guy as he was jumping. Guy never hit the ball.

Hmmmm.....

IGN gives it an 8.5.. Gamespot a 6.0

Hmmmm.....

IGN gives it an 8.5.. Gamespot a 6.0

And the truth lies in-between. I thought Gamespot's review was a bit harsh…and reeked of frustrations of all the failed next gen versions before it. Yet, IGN definitely had their rose colored glasses on.

The game has issues. But it does seem to play better than any of the versions that I've played on the 360 before. Just my two cents.

And the truth lies in-between. I thought Gamespot's review was a bit harsh…and reeked of frustrations of all the failed next gen versions before it. Yet, IGN definitely had their rose colored glasses on.

The game has issues. But it does seem to play better than any of the versions that I've played on the 360 before. Just my two cents.

Yeah, my guess was it falls in between the two.

I will agree that the on field representation is as good as it has been this generation, but I still feel like the game played better overall last gen.

Owen Good's Kotaku Madden review noted something I noticed with NCAA '14. The 3-4 defense is very difficult to run against. I didn't have the patience to go and figure out why that's the case for NCAA 14, but Good's Madden explanation is persuasive. He argues that this difficulty comes from the offensive line's inability to identify linebackers and effectively block them. They tend to gravitate toward double teaming defensive linemen rather than pick up linebackers. I'm not the greatest NCAA player but it now makes perfect sense why I struggled so much against teams that ran the 3-4, even teams that were vastly inferior to me ratings-wise.

I'm still in on the anniversary edition, but only so that I can ultimately pay $50-$60 for Sunday ticket after trading in Madden quickly.

I'm getting Madden solely for the Sunday Ticket, so if someone wants my game, which It says should be here by Friday, I'd be more than willing to send it off to someone for $45 flat. PM me if you're interested.

I have not bought this version and will not be for the first time this generation. I'm a CPU vs. CPU player, and I was extremely excited about the Owner mode and all the new stuff surrounding it. And of course, after having CPU vs. CPU in every version for at least 10 years now, they removed it in Madden 13 and never put it back in this version. So for me and some other players who prefer to be coach or GM without actively controlling players (but also want to see the games play out vs. quick simming), we're out of luck.

So let me get this straight: I have to have an Xbox LIVE Gold account in order to use the file-sharing feature? Nowhere on the box does it say this.

I would've bought it for the fucking PS3 if I had known! :(

Evidently I can't even download the EA roster updates. What bullshit.

I have not bought this version and will not be for the first time this generation. I'm a CPU vs. CPU player, and I was extremely excited about the Owner mode and all the new stuff surrounding it. And of course, after having CPU vs. CPU in every version for at least 10 years now, they removed it in Madden 13 and never put it back in this version. So for me and some other players who prefer to be coach or GM without actively controlling players (but also want to see the games play out vs. quick simming), we're out of luck.

I'm in that boat too. There's simply no reason it shouldn't be in there.

I can see the excitement of getting the online ticket if you don't have DirectTV. I have DirectTv and called them to do my normal "I'm cancelling" dance and they knocked the full Max package ($300 retail) to about $75 total after discounts (they gave me a $30 a month rebate for 5 months on my current package and then discounted the Max from $60 a month to $45. So I ended up paying $15 a month out of pocket more for 5 months to get it).

So, if you do have DirectTV, I'd recommend going this route over buying Madden if you don't want it as you can see all the games on your TV (in HD) and use the mobile/online option if you want with the Max.

How do we even contact EA Sports anymore? Their website is useless, they have no contact number and I don't have an origin ID.

I can see the excitement of getting the online ticket if you don't have DirectTV. I have DirectTv and called them to do my normal "I'm cancelling" dance and they knocked the full Max package ($300 retail) to about $75 total after discounts (they gave me a $30 a month rebate for 5 months on my current package and then discounted the Max from $60 a month to $45. So I ended up paying $15 a month out of pocket more for 5 months to get it).

So, if you do have DirectTV, I'd recommend going this route over buying Madden if you don't want it as you can see all the games on your TV (in HD) and use the mobile/online option if you want with the Max.

Yeah, I was really happy as I do not have directv or even regular cable, so it was either get this or have to resubscribe to cable and then cancel again after football season.

In general I wish I could just pay for sports streaming and never get cable at all. I didnt check, but is there a way to watch baseball, basketball or hockey games via streaming (legally)? This past year I just did ipad NHL game center but it was only radio coverage.

In general I wish I could just pay for sports streaming and never get cable at all. I didnt check, but is there a way to watch baseball, basketball or hockey games via streaming (legally)? This past year I just did ipad NHL game center but it was only radio coverage.

I know there is for hockey and pretty sure there is for baseball too.

You can get streaming NHL games - video and audio - via the internet through whatever the web-based version of the Center Ice Package is. You can even watch up to 4 games at once. Any nationally televised or locally televised games will be blacked out.

Pitiful.

I evidently have an Origin ID but don't know the password, so I had it sent to my email address. Been close to an hour and still no email. :rant:

:lol:

EA will exchange the Xbox360 version for the PS3 version. Though I'm still debating keeping it because I like the Xbox controller better and like having it installed on my hard drive. Just might have to bite the bullet and pay for Xbox Live.

You'll get some free games for your troubles.

:lol:

EA will exchange the Xbox360 version for the PS3 version. Though I'm still debating keeping it because I like the Xbox controller better and like having it installed on my hard drive. Just might have to bite the bullet and pay for Xbox Live.

Don't be so loud.. MBBF might hear you. :D

Don't be so loud.. MBBF might hear you. :D

I'm too busy posting in the 'Save us from Madden, 2K Sports!' thread to bother with this one.

Played half of a 5 minute exhibition game as bills and kind of sucked but felt ok about starting a franchise. Started a new franchise as the raiders.

imported some sliders I found and playing on all pro. The sliders boost all human attributes to 75 and some cpu are higher some lower. 12 minute quarters with 20 sec accelerated clock.

Won my first game against the Colts 33-30 with a game winning field goal as time expired. I was down 27-16 entering fourth quarter. Terrelle Pryor came up big and ran for 103 and passed for 280. I did get sacked like 9 times.

Surprised I did that well as I havent played a football video game in several years.

Mcfadden had about 14 carries for 57 yards, about 30 of which came on a nice td run I made. I like how using the burst makes it more likely you fumble or get hurt.

Passing seems good so far, I made most of my plays out of the pocket, I am surprised the defense didnt adjust and start playing a spy though.

I played my first franchise game last night on All-Pro, default sliders as the Dolphins and beat the Jaguars 38-22. The stats were really close with both teams turning the ball over twice.

Feel better about my All-Pro slider set. Beat the Jets 41-20. Got 68 plays in and an efficient but not overpowering offensive performance. Luck completed 73% but at about 7.6 per attempt. Lots of short stuff. Sanchez was atrocious early but put together some good drives in the 2nd half. The Jets only got 53 plays in, but a lot of 3 and outs hurt them.

Feel better about my All-Pro slider set. Beat the Jets 41-20. Got 68 plays in and an efficient but not overpowering offensive performance. Luck completed 73% but at about 7.6 per attempt. Lots of short stuff. Sanchez was atrocious early but put together some good drives in the 2nd half. The Jets only got 53 plays in, but a lot of 3 and outs hurt them.

Have you posted the set anywhere? i'm looking for a good slider set before I start my franchise.

Well, I do agree that some of the things EA does are disappointing. <O:p</O:p
I'd love to see more realistic QB play/errant throws, line interaction, more appropriate subs and penalties. <O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

But they are a giant, amoral money making behemoth, so they're going to focus on doing things that make them big bags of amoral money...hopefully the series will continue to show SOME respect to people who want a "sim" type of experience. I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime, I'll play what I can get and extract whatever enjoyment I can from their product.<O:p</O:p

These are the sliders I used in my time with Season Ticket (early access).
<O:p</O:p
I'm not the best "stick skills" guy on the planet, or even on my street, so challenge may be lacking for some. I did end up pretty similar to some of the sets on OS - and the penalty sliders are "borrowed" from someone on there...but I don't recall who.

<O:p</O:pSkill Level - All-pro (changes to custom)<O:p> </O:p>
Injuries - 50<O:p</O:p
Fatigue - 50<O:p</O:p
Game Speed - Slow<O:p</O:p
Player Minimum Threshold - 25<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

Penalties
Offside - 100<O:p</O:p
False Start - 100<O:p</O:p
Holding - 65<O:p</O:p
Facemask - 40<O:p</O:p
DPI - 35<O:p</O:p
OPI - 35<O:p</O:p
KR/PR Interference - 50<O:p</O:p
Clipping - 57<O:p</O:p
Int Grounding - 75<O:p</O:p
Roughing The Passer - 54<O:p</O:p
Roughing the Kicker - 50<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

Sliders - Hum/CPU <O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

QB ACC 20/20<O:p</O:p
Pass Blocking 35/35<O:p</O:p
WR Catching 45/45<O:p</O:p
Run Blocking 30/30<O:p</O:p
Fumbles 50/50<O:p</O:p
Reaction Time 60/60<O:p</O:p
Interceptions 30/30<O:p</O:p
Pass Coverage 65/65<O:p</O:p
Tackling 55/55

<O:p</O:p***Note: There is a "stuck in the mud" type of glitch on toss plays when you play on slow. In my experience, a fast back can still get to the outside despite it. If you play on normal speed, it doesn't happen - I just can't play that fast. Too old.<O:p</O:p


How long are your quarters and runoff?

How long are your quarters and runoff?

I've been using 15 minutes with 18 second run-off....
I sometimes super sim defence if I don't have time for a full game. When I do, I find that's way too long, but I haven't found a setting that works for that yet. Thinking I'll turn off the accelerated clock and go with 9 minutes.

has super sim improved even a little bit ? (in past editions there would be like a 5 second run off for every play and scores and stats thus got out of hand totally)

has super sim improved even a little bit ? (in past editions there would be like a 5 second run off for every play and scores and stats thus got out of hand totally)

No. Terrible as it always was

No. Terrible as it always was

They probably can't patch it either because it would cause too many bugs and glitches or something.

I got this as a gift, but have been pleasantly surprised, although I didn't play much of last year's version. I've been playing on 15 min quarters with 12 second run-off to speed up the games, but it gives you precious little time to adjust anything. Games still take around 1hr 10mins for me which is longer than I'd like.

I just had a preseason game that went into OT. However, it ended after a FG. Aren't the new OT rules now applied to non-playoff games?

My regular season game used new OT rules. You sure the FG was on the very first OT possession?

The football itch has arrived but I don't play anywhere near enough to justify the price of these games anymore. I'm guessing the 13 version won't drive me too crazy if I can pick it up cheaply on ebay?

The football itch has arrived but I don't play anywhere near enough to justify the price of these games anymore. I'm guessing the 13 version won't drive me too crazy if I can pick it up cheaply on ebay?

I wouldn't think so. You'll miss the read option and get some weird looking tackles as the infinity engine is more refined in 25. There's also the return of owner mode, but if those things don't really matter I think you'll be fine.

I just had a preseason game that went into OT. However, it ended after a FG. Aren't the new OT rules now applied to non-playoff games?

I thought preseason games don't go into overtime at all.

I thought preseason games don't go into overtime at all.

Chiefs/Steelers played OT this year.

I wouldn't think so. You'll miss the read option and get some weird looking tackles as the infinity engine is more refined in 25. There's also the return of owner mode, but if those things don't really matter I think you'll be fine.

I've seen some really weird looking tackles in '25. Including one where I tried to juke a defender, barely grazed him and bounced backwards five yards. :eek:

The thing I hate about the infinity engine is there is still no way for it to realistically deal with rubs and minor colliding (arms and legs) causing players to pretty much be taken out of a play. In 13, I am currently playing in a LB only league with a friend and It happens 5-10 times a game where I am closing in on a tackle in traffic and I rub against someone who is on a block, and suddenly my defenders arms go out like he is trying to take flight or he stumbles for 3-5 steps, or both. Its so wonky how players pretty much go paraplegic when they so much as graze another player.

I play 13 min quarters with 19 second run off. The super sim is definitely useless, which forces me to run the clock even more if I'm up late. It's the biggest issue of the game.

Otherwise, I'm enjoying the playability. It's a flawed but fun game.

Okay, got a season in (9-7 with the Eagles, would take that in real life this year; though missed the playoffs as there were a grand total of 5 teams over .500 in the AFC but 9 teams over .500 in the NFC and a 10-6 team even got left out of the post season).


Some feedback based on that season:

- Why can't I change the name of my save? That save system sucks if trying to juggle a couple different games.

- There is an amusing bug with the crowd reactions to challenges. The home crowd boos when a challenge ruling goes their way and cheers when it goes against them.

- I like the changes to the passing game. Makes you have to set and throw if you want a better throw. Also like that there are few minor features that make it look a little more realistic (like one time I was rolling out with Vick and being chased and saw McCoy wide open a few yards ahead; I tapped his button and Vick did a Favre like flip to get it to him).

- I swear catchup logic is still in the game. Every time I had a lead the other team would suddenly come up with some super human plays to get back into the game. The last game of the season I was beating the Cowboys by 17 in the 4th and was rushing Romo on one play; he was back pedaling and being hit while starting to throw (any other time this leads to the ball falling harmlessly to the ground for an incomplete pass; this time the throw was a laser 35 yards downfield with pinpoint accuracy to a receiver that was being draped by two defenders; there was about a 1 square foot window to hit from about 40 yards away from his backfoot while being crushed). Same story all season; if I was ahead by over 2 scores in the 4th the other team would always score at least 2 touchdowns with plays that I couldn't come close to stopping. Add to that the other team suddenly breaking tackles like they were 20 year olds playing against 10 year olds. Then once the game got close everything returned to as it was earlier in the game; the superman plays stopped.

- Like the feel of the running game and LOVE the read option. McCoy had over 800 yards and he missed almost half of the season. Vick had about 800 yards and 10 touchdowns. Jones had 700+ yards. Brown had about 500 yards. Yes, I was playing the anti-Andy Reid game plan.

- I HATE the lag when playing defense and that the game no longer seems to switch you to the most obvious defender. Countless times I have hit the switch button and instead of the game switching me to the player the is coming up try to make the tackle it switches me to someone 10 yards down field. This was a major issue early on because in past versions I would hit switch and then the tackle button because it would switch me to the right person. Now I have done that and all I end up with is a player 10 yards down field diving to the ground. That has caused issued if the ball carrier breaks the tackle of the other player and then runs past the player I just had dive to the ground.

- To continue the previous point, the LAG is worse. When it has changed me to a player that is close to the action I have lined up a chance to dive for a tackle and pressed the button but nothing happens. I then try to move the player to compensate for any move made by the ball carrier and the player takes another couple steps forward and then dives.

- I find the replay system not really worth it. I have seen too many plays that look like they should be overturned (or upheld) based on the replay and the result of the challenge almost seems random.

- Opponent's kickers. WTF? Any kick that was attempted against me under 55 yards was dead center and cleared the bar with many yards to spare. The only hooked hick was a 55 yarder that was attempted. The opponents' kickers were something like 25 of 26 against me.

- Play Now versus Franchise. There is no connection between the two. I tried to judge what settings I could use by trying some play now games. That was a massive failure. Settings that led to at least somewhat acceptable results in Play Now were insanely impossible in Franchise mode. The franchise mode settings that I have to use, when used in Play Now leads to games with about 120 points scored, over 1200 yards of offense and almost double digit turnover numbers; with plays averaging about 10-15 yards a pop (get a turnover or give up a touchdown).

- I would like it to be easier to follow the weekly league results. It feels like your team is in a vacuum and too much or a pain to see what is happening in the league. I am actually in the middle of the off season and I don't even know who won the Super Bowl (I could go look for it but that should be something that is obvious without having to go searching). Also, the geek side of me would have liked and option to actually see that game.


Yes I am being harsh but I hate that this game seems to be made only for online joystick jockeys with the rest being an afterthought.


I know FBPro had it's oddities but it made you feel like you were in a football universe where Madden makes you feel like you are playing a series of exhibition games.


As it is my only non text football option I have been enjoying it, just getting bugged by it.

I would agree with the catch up logic at times. I'm 3-2 as Jacksonville. I had Denver down 14-0 and 21-7, but they suddenly couldn't miss in the fourth quarter. I ended up losing in overtime.

I love the NFL, and I love building a franchise, but I would say the franchise mode feels disconnected at times. I'm enjoying the game more than I have in years, honestly, but it still seems flawed.

Also in about 20+ games the CPU has never punted and downed a ball inside the 10 yard line. the ball always bounces back and goes into the endzone. I have only been able to get it inside the 20 by kicking it out of bounds. CPU has also never returned more than about 30 yards on a punt or kick return. I have had realistic success with this.

I like the game but am having more fun playing with the created rosters vs. franchise mode. My Marino led Dolphins got walloped by the Boomer Esiason led Bengals 55-38. Turning the ball over five times. The big one was a Keith Jackson fumble when he got leveled by David Fulcher.

Anyone else find punt/kick returns a little easy? I generally sprint straight up the field, then swing to the left/right just before I hit the defenders and far too often I'm breaking off for big gains.

Just tried being a connected career player for the first time. I can't believe that they still can't get that part right. 1st game of the season against Washington, playing 12 minute quarters and Washington had a total of just over 3 minutes time of possession.

Do they have complete idiots testing this game?

This game was pretty much DOA for me.

I'm still enjoying playing, although I am just about unstoppable on offense with my current Raiders team even at OS All-Pro Sliders that are tweaked slightly more difficult.

I'm still enjoying playing, although I am just about unstoppable on offense with my current Raiders team even at OS All-Pro Sliders that are tweaked slightly more difficult.

I'm really enjoying Next Gen Madden although I'm 0-3 with my Eagles with slightly tweaked All-Pro sliders that are slightly more difficult than All-Pro. I've dominated past versions but find this to be the most challenging version yet - although that could change once I get a healthy mobile QB into this offense.

I'm really enjoying Next Gen Madden although I'm 0-3 with my Eagles with slightly tweaked All-Pro sliders that are slightly more difficult than All-Pro. I've dominated past versions but find this to be the most challenging version yet - although that could change once I get a healthy mobile QB into this offense.

I have Price McCaskill. 92 speed with a rocket arm and accurate. In my current season he has 136 QB rating and close to 100 yards rushing a game. Also have a stud RB I developed.

Anybody start playing with the Ultimate Team feature, and get tired of it? My son is playing it (he's 12) and the $1.49 for player packs is adding up...


If any of you have good cards that you are not using, It would be cool if I could get them to my boy... thanks

Pay to win really is a blight of the modern gaming era.

Pay to win really is a blight of the modern gaming era.

Seriously - fuck "pay to win" and the whole ultimate team concept.

Fuck it in its ear.

I tried the original version of Ultimate Team when it first shipped with Madden years ago, and stopped when all the players in my initial deck ran out of their contracts and I had not earned enough new decks to replace them. I stopped rather than pay up, and haven't gone near it since.

FWIW, it's not "pay to win" with Ultimate Team that put me off, it was more that it was "pay to play", and I'd rather play regular Madden.

FWIW, it's not "pay to win" with Ultimate Team that put me off, it was more that it was "pay to play", and I'd rather play regular Madden.

This. I'd rather just go straight to the toilet and flush the cash than contribute to another EA money grab. :lol:

They get $60 a year out of me, they aren't getting a penny more.

It's why I think that mobile gaming in particular flat out sucks. If there's a half-decent game on android or iOs that is not a camoflauged pay to win game, I haven't found it.

I'm OK with stuff like purchasing gear for your My Player or whatever because if some folks want their virtual self to have a funky jacket then more power to them, but when it comes down to competitive game modes skill should be the deciding factor, not which 13 year old has the richest parents.

It's why I think that mobile gaming in particular flat out sucks. If there's a half-decent game on android or iOs that is not a camoflauged pay to win game, I haven't found it.

I'm OK with stuff like purchasing gear for your My Player or whatever because if some folks want their virtual self to have a funky jacket then more power to them, but when it comes down to competitive game modes skill should be the deciding factor, not which 13 year old has the richest parents.

If you're into board games there are a ton of excellent iOS implementations that are not at all play to win. I've also enjoyed little simple games like Temple Run, Angry Birds, PBA bowling, etc.. without feeling like i need to play to win

I actually bought Madden again when I got a PS4. Have to say I'm in love with the game. The All-Pro setting is rough, especially if you have bad habits playing the last gen version. Player ratings actually seem to mean something in this version.

I'm playing franchise and have Jacksonville off to a great 1-2 start (lost my first two games by a combined score of 71-3), with the 31st rank offense in the league. :lol:

Thinking about trading in my NBA2K PS4 game for Madden. I really like 2K but generally play mycareer mode which needs some work for NG. You apparently never enter free agency (haven't gotten to this point myself) and play vision doesn't work properly (can definitely verify). I don't know...may just wait it out and put NBA towards The Show.

Thinking about trading in my NBA2K PS4 game for Madden. I really like 2K but generally play mycareer mode which needs some work for NG. You apparently never enter free agency (haven't gotten to this point myself) and play vision doesn't work properly (can definitely verify). I don't know...may just wait it out and put NBA towards The Show.

Don't waste your time with Madden. It's the same as every release. The first couple games seem like "hey this isn't bad" then you start seeing just how pitiful their testing must have been. Obviously done by people with no clue about American football.

I've given up on MyCareer but I'm having a blast with MyGm. Rebuilt the Magic with some draft steals (Kevin Love in FA helped too) and I'm in my 4th season - fast simmed rebuilding years 1 and 2, now playing 1 out of 4 games.

Don't waste your time with Madden. It's the same as every release. The first couple games seem like "hey this isn't bad" then you start seeing just how pitiful their testing must have been. Obviously done by people with no clue about American football.

I'd suggest that people use the Twitch live streams to judge for themselves. I watched 2-3 games and was seeing the same issues that have plagued previous releases.

Don't waste your time with Madden. It's the same as every release. The first couple games seem like "hey this isn't bad" then you start seeing just how pitiful their testing must have been. Obviously done by people with no clue about American football.

Been that way for far too long.. :(

It's not perfect, but the PS4 version of the game is a huge step up from the Xbox360/PS3 version of the game. Are there some nagging glitches I wish they'd fix? Sure. Still kills me when the QB looks backwards when rolling out. But this is by far the best version of the game that I've ever played.

Why should I take your word over somebody who hates the series and has watched several videos?

Why should I take your word over somebody who hates the series and has watched several videos?

Let me clarify, I'm not a stick jockey. I'm not very good with doing all the special moves and juking and things of that nature.

On the Xbox360/PS3 version of the game, you could abuse Cover 2 coverages. CB would try to get a bump on your receiver then let him go down the sideline while the safety seemed to take no notice until the ball was in the WR's hands. You could Hot Route to a go pattern and complete it about 95% of the time even with a 60's rated QB and WR. In the current version, if there is no one going to the flat, the DB recognizes what is going on and then turns and runs with the WR. Same thing with hook routes. Linebackers do seem to be a little too good in pass coverage.

Could it all still fall apart? Sure. But not because of the "on the field" game mechanics. I'm not very deep into franchise mode yet, so I don't know how the sim statistics stack up or how the CPU teams draft and sign free agents. But for the first time in Madden, I actually feel like the off-season is going to matter to my on the field success. That has me excited.

Since this is the second version of Madden in six months, I'd definitely recommend giving it a rental at least once you upgrade.

Good info. Going to try to hold off until the fall and hope for a price-drop and/or hardware update. I wouldn't have time to play it much anyhow due to my NCAA football leagues.

It is EA, they always fk something up.

In all seriousness, I have the game as well. I bought it 3 months ago and played it for around 2 hours and havent touched it since. I didnt find anything real awful about it in that time but nothing stuck out that made it seem much different than the previous 5-6 versions to me either.

Probably the biggest thing I dislike is if you want to play a game with realistic stats the games will take over 60 minutes to complete(even with accelerated clock). Makes it kind of hard to get into a franchise or anything like that.

Having played/owned practically every Madden from the original version on Genesis up to M25 on the PS4...I can honestly say this years PS4 iteration is the closest I've seen to real football on a console.

Now, don't mistake me saying that this is in any way an accurate representation of football. Madden is still light years away from creating the kind of realism that MLB: The Show creates, but if you're comparing Madden 20XX to Madden 25...this year wins out.

After five games, I'm 1-4 and just got my ass whipped by St. Louis 51-0. Zack Stacy ran the ball 37 times for 220 yards and I turned the ball over seven times again. So many bad habits I've built up over the years are just plain killing me in this game.

GO RAMS!!!

GO RAMS!!!

:p

Madden is actually pretty solid this year, but it still has those quirks with no penalties, too many sacks and INTs, and the usual. It is pretty polished though, overall.

Amazingly, I came across this video today, and I must say that this game, minus player movements/graphics/etc is still light years ahead of where Madden is today, especially in regards to the offseason. Granted, this game didn't have a built in salary structure (at least I don't think), but I figured some of you all would remember it!

Football Pro 98 with Meringer! Denver vs Seattle Quick Match Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jET5DYVTJL0)

Madden is actually pretty solid this year, but it still has those quirks with no penalties, too many sacks and INTs, and the usual. It is pretty polished though, overall.

Amazingly, I came across this video today, and I must say that this game, minus player movements/graphics/etc is still light years ahead of where Madden is today, especially in regards to the offseason. Granted, this game didn't have a built in salary structure (at least I don't think), but I figured some of you all would remember it!

Football Pro 98 with Meringer! Denver vs Seattle Quick Match Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jET5DYVTJL0)

The good ol days.. I still think FPS Football 96 was the best version of pc football ever made.

Oh, man. FPS: Football Pro completely re-defined video game football for me. As a young teenager, I spent many sleepless nights playing that series on my custom built rig with a 133MHz Pentium Processor, 4 MB of RAM, and a Matrox Graphics card that cost 2x more than the rest of the parts combined.

The good ol days.. I still think FPS Football 96 was the best version of pc football ever made.

I would LOVE to see another game like that. Madden comes no where close. I don't need all the flashy graphics to enjoy the game, I need solid football.

I can't even guess how many hours I spent on those games, even back in the original version where it took FOREVER to get through a season.

One of my best memories comes from a game that my team wasn't even involved in (think it was the first version that had the Pro label). The unbeaten Cowboys (who were a machine that season; just steam rolling everyone, they averaged 20 point victories) against the Bills in the Super Bowl. The Bills defense held strong and had a 14-10 lead with under a minute left and the Cowboys had a 1st and goal from the 1. The Bills stopped them on 4 attempts to hold on for the Super Bowl victory.

Madden is actually pretty solid this year, but it still has those quirks with no penalties, too many sacks and INTs, and the usual. It is pretty polished though, overall.

Amazingly, I came across this video today, and I must say that this game, minus player movements/graphics/etc is still light years ahead of where Madden is today, especially in regards to the offseason. Granted, this game didn't have a built in salary structure (at least I don't think), but I figured some of you all would remember it!

Football Pro 98 with Meringer! Denver vs Seattle Quick Match Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jET5DYVTJL0)

If pretty solid is defined as a completely crap Player Career mode, catchup logic that still exists, a challenge system that is useless as the results of the challenges are always coin flips that seem to have nothing to do with what the actual replay shows, still no coach mode, no way to feel like you are part of an actual football season, another game that pushes micro transactions instead of included content, etc...

yeah, they nailed it....

It's a solid MADDEN. Not necessarily a solid football game. We're wayyyyyy past that. :)

It's a solid MADDEN. Not necessarily a solid football game. We're wayyyyyy past that. :)

Okay, that I will agree with. :)

It's funny reading through this thread. People were saying they were waiting for the next gen (PS4, Xbox One) versions of the game because the current generation had been so underwhelming. Fast forward to 2019, and Madden has been a bust for another hardware generation. What a load of crap, EA.

Edit: I was only looking at this to see about the viability of using NCAA 2014 and importing drafts into Madden 25 as an alternative to picking up Madden 20 with its middling reviews.

I thought Madden 19 was the best it has ever been. To each his own, I guess.

Yeah, I got a lot more play out of Madden 19 than I have the last couple of NBA 2Ks combined.