View Full Version : The NCAA Lowers the Boom!
Easy Mac
10-09-2012, 11:51 AM
on Texas Southern. Way to get the big boys NCAA!
Texas Southern Tigers banned from 2013, '14 postseason in football, basketball - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8482315/texas-southern-tigers-banned-2013-14-postseason-football-basketball)
HOUSTON -- The NCAA banned Texas Southern's basketball program from the 2012-13 postseason and the football program from the 2013 and 2014 postseason, citing recruiting violations, academic issues, the use of ineligible athletes and exceeding scholarship limits.
The Division I Infractions Committee outlined widespread violations, spanning 13 sports over a seven-year period in a report released Tuesday. Other penalties include five years' probation, scholarship limitations in football and basketball and the vacation of all team records from the 2006-10 in all sports, and including the 2010-11 records for football and women's soccer. In 2010, Texas Southern won its first SWAC football championship since 1968.
The NCAA cited Texas Southern for "lack of institutional control" and noted the school as a "double repeat violator."
Also, what is "double repeat violator?" Is that a 5x violator (1+2x2), a 4x violator (2x2), a 3x violator (1+1x2), or or just a repeat violator?
QuikSand
10-09-2012, 11:59 AM
Also, what is "double repeat violator?"
See also "Double Secret Probation."
Vince, Pt. II
10-09-2012, 12:02 PM
See also "Double Secret Probation."
Winner.
Passacaglia
10-09-2012, 12:17 PM
It's when I listen to Depeche Mode over and over again on two stereo systems. Enjoy the Silence, indeed.
britrock88
10-09-2012, 12:23 PM
Texas Southern is a SWAC member. Isn't the SWAC one of the HBCU conferences that forgo the I-AA playoff to stage their own bowl game? What would the effect of a postseason football ban be?
BishopMVP
10-09-2012, 10:01 PM
on Texas Southern. Way to get the big boys NCAA!
Texas Southern Tigers banned from 2013, '14 postseason in football, basketball - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8482315/texas-southern-tigers-banned-2013-14-postseason-football-basketball)Then againWhen you see the NCAA punish a school like Texas Southern (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8482315/texas-southern-tigers-banned-2013-14-postseason-football-basketball), the immediate reflex is to make fun of the NCAA. You want to repeat the classic quote (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=5242104): "The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky, it's going to give Cleveland State two more years' probation." Whether fair or not, that is the NCAA's historic reputation -- that it lets the big boys skate while punishing small schools in a strongman's show of force. Now we're punishing a SWAC school? Come on!
http://a.espncdn.com/i/teamlogos/ncaa/med/trans/2640.gifThat is the initial reflex. But then you actually take a minute to read about Texas Southern's case (http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2012-10-09/texas-southern-cited-sanctioned-lack-institutional-control), and the way the tiny D-1 entity has pretty muchwillfully broken every NCAA rule under the sun for the past two decades, and you feel less inclined to rage against the mean ol' NCAA. To wit: In this case, the university allowed 129 student-athletes in 13 sports during seven academic years to compete and receive financial aid and travel expenses when they were ineligible. The majority of these student-athletes had not met progress toward degree or transfer requirements. The committee noted “particularly serious violations” occurred when the former head football coach knowingly allowed a booster to recruit for the football program and the former head men’s basketball coach provided false or misleading information during the investigation.
The men’s basketball team also failed to serve its academic performance program penalty. During the 2009-10 season, the university was required to limit scholarships and restrict its athletically related activity to five days a week. The team awarded two more scholarships than allowed in the penalty and did not adhere to the practice restrictions.And that's just the first couple of paragraphs!Sounds like a double repeat violator means they were continuing to violate NCAA rules while on probation - and lying to the NCAA about it.
molson
10-09-2012, 10:37 PM
Then againSounds like a double repeat violator means they were continuing to violate NCAA rules while on probation - and lying to the NCAA about it.
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And they did actually get a SWAC Championship out of it. Which makes the whole thing absolutely worth the risk, where the only thing they can do to you is punish future coaches and future players. It's like if you shoplift at a store and they punish the people who live in your house after you move out.
Groundhog
10-09-2012, 10:50 PM
That's what they get for not being in one of the major conferences.
M GO BLUE!!!
10-09-2012, 10:51 PM
See also "Double Secret Probation."
I still say Faber College got screwed
BishopMVP
10-09-2012, 10:57 PM
And they did actually get a SWAC Championship out of it. Which makes the whole thing absolutely worth the risk, where the only thing they can do to you is punish future coaches and future players.Apparently they agreed with you and didn't feel like punishing the players at the school the first two times they were caught! Looking at the length of time, range of sports, and brazenness of some of the cheating, I'm surprised they didn't get the death penalty.
sterlingice
10-10-2012, 10:11 AM
They didn't give Penn State the death penalty under their "special circumstances" so no one is getting any. Miami sure isn't going to despite the fact that they have a hand delivered case to the NCAA where they could. And we saw how much double secret probation held back USC. If they could beat the nerds up north, they'd be in the national title picture.
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