This seems like the kind of show we discuss in threads around here, more so than most other new shows this fall season. So discuss. And because I'm annoying, please don't worry about spoiler tags, hence the declaration of spoilers in the title.

But she shoots arrows just like in Hunger Games.

That has to make it good.

i liked it. had the distinct feel of an Abrams show where there is always a little bit of a WTF moment at the end. I was impressed by the amount of violence considering it was a network show...thought it was kind of funny that in 15 years we have regressed to muzzle loading muskets, but the fact that they developed that much of the story that quickly made for a really good first episode.

i have my seasons pass set.

I don't really understand the muskets. So do modern handguns not work anymore? People still are able to make bullets by hand, so why would 15 year old handguns no longer work?

I don't really understand the muskets. So do modern handguns not work anymore? People still are able to make bullets by hand, so why would 15 year old handguns no longer work?

This. I was fixated about the lack of "modern" guns after 15 years. They really had to turn to muskets and bow/arrow?! I'm still giving it a shot but I don't think this one will last...

Pretty "meh" about this, which sucks because I thought it could be good. -Google-guy...haha. That was funny.
-Pretty convenient that the brother just so happens to be a super-badass fighter who can take out like 10 guys with guns and swords attacking him at once.
-Wouldn't the inhaler have "gone bad" for lack of a better word, in 15 years?
-So I can understand the argument for "cars don't work" because of the amount of electronics in them, but other forms of internal combustion engines should still work judging by these rules hmm? And steam engines...and hydroelectric power...and wind power...
-Saw the "betrayal" and "redemption" way ahead of time - that was pretty damn telegraphed.
-Twist at the end...meh.

Pretty "meh" about this, which sucks because I thought it could be good. -Google-guy...haha. That was funny.
-Pretty convenient that the brother just so happens to be a super-badass fighter who can take out like 10 guys with guns and swords attacking him at once.
-Wouldn't the inhaler have "gone bad" for lack of a better word, in 15 years?
-So I can understand the argument for "cars don't work" because of the amount of electronics in them, but other forms of internal combustion engines should still work judging by these rules hmm? And steam engines...and hydroelectric power...and wind power...
-Saw the "betrayal" and "redemption" way ahead of time - that was pretty damn telegraphed.
-Twist at the end...meh.

this was the biggest "uh what" moment for me, along with the fact that they all have really nice clean clothes on and their hair is impeccably clean.

11.4 million viewers. Highest debut for a drama. Last one to be that high, V. Last one for NBC, Bionic Woman. Considering the logic holes already being mentioned, it will be interesting to see how well this lasts since neither of the previous record setters did either.

this was the biggest "uh what" moment for me, along with the fact that they all have really nice clean clothes on and their hair is impeccably clean.

Liked the girl's perfect "just off the rack" leather jacket. Or the AC/DC t-shirt.

15 years...original clothes are really going to be ratty as hell, especially being hand-washed with the kind of soaps they'd have available.

The brother being a good fighter is a necessary trapping for a TV show. If we accept the premise that he is important enough to be looked for over 15 years, we have to accept the premise that he has the skills to evade capture. If we don't accept that premise, this show is over in less than an hour.

The pretty hair and clothes is similar. You won't get a US audience to watch unless it is full of pretty people.

I'd put the gun thing down to the fact that firearms are a hanging offense. People probably could make guns that are more complex, but since they basically have to make their own, that becomes difficult.

The engine issue I don't really have an explanation for. If you can get settled enough to have crops and livestock, you'd think there could be some basic wind power or water wheels or something.

Was "Ok" for me, and like most Abrams shows full of holes and inconsistent "rules" for the show's setting. I did like the twist at the end-I had known from the promo that a character was going to have one of the devices and know what to do with it, but I thought it was the fat guy (Ross?) who would know. But wonder what she is doing out there all alone apparently for years if what she does is so important to Earth's future.

Not a fan of the actor playing General Monroe from his ER days unfortunately, but will watch a couple episodes at least to see how the plot and characters develop.

Probably not a huge surprise to most, but I liked it (as I seem to like most of these type shows). So that means two things usually.. 1) Most of you will end up hating it and be super critical.. 2) NBC will cancel it after 6 episodes :)

I have it on the DVR though and hope it lasts a while

DVR'ing this. Will watch if it's going to last.

Not a fan of the actor playing General Monroe from his ER days unfortunately, but will watch a couple episodes at least to see how the plot and characters develop.

No no no, it's the guy from..... "THE CAPE!"

No no no, it's the guy from..... "THE CAPE!"

Yeah and I hated him even more there! :)

on another note, I'm loving Lost :)

I don't really understand the muskets. So do modern handguns not work anymore? People still are able to make bullets by hand, so why would 15 year old handguns no longer work?

Most people probably started with a pretty low repair skill. It's likely that once they'd leveled it up enough to keep firearms in a proper state of repair they had broken most of the modern guns.

it's possible that the electromagnetic field of the earth has changed and therefore rendered electricity inoperable, I think maybe. Just throwing out a quasi possible scientific idea i think.

From what I have read, main story and plot points are already mapped out, unlike with Lost. I'd like to think that means they have logical rules for their world which they will eventually share with us. I could certainly be wrong, but I am hoping Abrams learned from Lost.

wait...abrams is doing revolution?

this was the biggest "uh what" moment for me, along with the fact that they all have really nice clean clothes on and their hair is impeccably clean.

"". This drives me nuts. I get its network TV, but dirt and grime is ok in these situations; perfect grooming is offputting in terms of getting me involved in any show. I've only seen ads for Revolution, but this made me think it was going to be silly, NBC style.

"". silly, NBC style.

This is redundant

Point.

From the channel that brought you "Guys with Kids"

wait...abrams is doing revolution?

He is one of the producers. John Favreau is one of the directors.

Dumb.

They mentioned car engines not working as part of the mystery to WTF happened in a brief monologue at the beginning, I think.

You guys should pay attention.

Lost was tolerable during its slow parts and plot holes because the acting carried it. Locke, Ben, Desmond, even Jack and many minor characters were so good that hokey dialogue was forgiven. Outside of Gus Fring and maybe the woman at the end, Revolution was brutal. As much as I hate judging any show off a pilot, I have a hard time seeing it ever being good. (I'll probably still watch anyway, but I also watched all of FlashForward and Terra Nova.)

I enjoyed the pilot. I hope its not another Lost with all the teasing (and teasing, and teasing). The fighting choreography could be better but I remember early days of Highlander series and how it got progressively better.

I didn't think it was great, but it was decent enough that I'll give it a few episodes and see where it goes.

I really enjoyed it. Pace moved along well and it was a fun hour of tv. I dont over think these things to much. I just want to be entertained.

I concur with those who enjoyed it. It's strange, but the Miles character is somewhat likeable and unlikeable at the same time. I like the character, but I don't necessarily like the fact that he's essentially the Han Solo character (albeit without Chewie).

More and more, I've decided scifi fans are outrageously tough on shows.

More and more, I've decided scifi fans are outrageously tough on shows.

For sure.

It is like they want every little detail perfect yet complain like hell when the network cancels the show because it is to expensive to produce.

For sure.

It is like they want every little detail perfect yet complain like hell when the network cancels the show because it is to expensive to produce.

Yes.

For sure.

It is like they want every little detail perfect yet complain like hell when the network cancels the show because it is to expensive to produce.Disagree. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but outside of Firefly, every canceled SciFi-esque show had horrible acting.

More and more, I've decided scifi fans are outrageously tough on shows.

Agreed. I enjoyed the show. Although, I did wonder about the Asthma inhaler still being good and a few other inconsistencies. I'm hoping these inconsistencies will be explained in future episodes.

The doctor has a terrible English accent. Since she clearly can't pull it off, why not make the character Australian?

Disagree. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but outside of Firefly, every canceled SciFi-esque show had horrible acting.

BSG was pretty good.

I'm in on the show although I'm in on almost every sci-fi show. My hope for the show is that it doesn't come across cheesy. The concept of a post-electronic world is interesting, but I have a fear it's falling into the trap of stereotypical TV characters. We already have the love story lined up, the quirky sidekick who doesn't fit in, the elite soldier who I'm sure we'll find out was trained by the best in some secret covert part of the military.

I don't need ultra-realistic characters in a show, just different ones. I love Walter from Fringe because he's so unique. BSG was great because the characters weren't one dimensional caricatures. I hope these characters in Revolution are unique and not just your standard fare that are seen over and over in TV shows and movies.

So no thoughts on the second episode yet? I thought it was a little better than the first episode, but nothing spectacular. The twist at the very end was interesting though-I'm curious to see how that happened.

I missed the first, watched the second. Thought it was okay, I'll probably keep watching. I did keep waiting for Kevin Costner to show up and deliver the mail, though.

Did a 3.5 last night, so it should be good to stay all season, as long as NBC doesn't give it abnormally long breaks. NBC actually won Monday night in its entirety, after finishing last (not counting the CW) all last year.

Last night was alright. I'm still onboard I suppose.

BSG was pretty good.

I'm in on the show although I'm in on almost every sci-fi show. My hope for the show is that it doesn't come across cheesy. The concept of a post-electronic world is interesting, but I have a fear it's falling into the trap of stereotypical TV characters. We already have the love story lined up, the quirky sidekick who doesn't fit in, the elite soldier who I'm sure we'll find out was trained by the best in some secret covert part of the military.

I don't need ultra-realistic characters in a show, just different ones. I love Walter from Fringe because he's so unique. BSG was great because the characters weren't one dimensional caricatures. I hope these characters in Revolution are unique and not just your standard fare that are seen over and over in TV shows and movies.

BSG wasn't canceled after it's first season which I think was the point.

I'm thoroughly in the "it's not bad, hope it gets better" camp right now.

I get very annoyed at "next time on" stuff that gives away major plot points. Some shows I just know to not watch those.

Looks like this needs to be added to the list.

I like it so far. You have to give these shows at least half a season to really form an opinion though. But so far it's kept me interested and I'm looking forward to seeing where things go.

I have a feeling this show is going to end up being different than I thought. I initially thought it was going to be a natural disaster, ensuing chaos, and rebuilding society type show. Now it looks like it will be a man-made disaster for some unknown political/power gain. It may still be good, I just need to reset my expectations.

It will be nice when Charlie (Tracy) gets a few more episodes under her belt. Her acting is a little jarring, but it is close enough to hope that settling into the role will help.

Decent show. Suffers from a bit too much right wing anti-gun control paranoia. But whatever.

Picked up for the season and setting DVR records for NBC.

Millions Time-Shift Disappointment As 'Revolution' Sets DVR Record (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/10/millions-time-shift-their-disappointment-as-revolution-sets-dvr-record/)

Picked up for the season and setting DVR records for NBC.

Millions Time-Shift Disappointment As 'Revolution' Sets DVR Record (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/10/millions-time-shift-their-disappointment-as-revolution-sets-dvr-record/)


I fall into this category. I'm watching it recorded every week. Its alright so far, I am hoping it picks up.

The acting on this show is horrible. This show just isn't what I thought it was going to be. Don't think I'll be with it much longer. I don't need an episode dedicated to digging a tunnel or an episode dedicated to getting your hands on a gun. These are fine plots but a whole episode?

I echo the above. Just watched this week's last night and I am so ridiculously bored with everything that goes on, save for "what is up with the blackout?" I hate the lead girl, I hate Miles, I hate the chubby guy, I hate myself as I watch it.

We started using the 30 second skip feature about a half hour into the show, just to hopefully land on flashback scenes. I deleted the season pass from our DVR when it was done.

Hope the rest of you enjoy it. I'll just wiki it at the end of the season to figure out what happened.

I'm enjoying it so far. Nothing great but enjoyable at least.

I'm enjoying it so far. Nothing great but enjoyable at least.

Me too. I'm still willing to stick out this season and see where it goes.

I started the thread. I'll stay in for the duration, because that's what I do for sci-fi shows. Its decent. Definitely in more on the "why the blackout" than I am on the whole Katniss and Young Hercules storyline.

One thing I wish they would do is give us a better understanding of time that is progressing. They seemed to walk to Chicago in a couple of hours, even though they had to be 20-30 miles out. Then they just walk around for another hour or so and seem to be well outside the city. They're walking almost 200 miles to Indy and want to meet in 2 weeks? That's walking 15 miles a day non stop for 2 weeks? I know they're motivated, but it seems a bit much.

Nitpicking I'm sure, but these things bug me.

I guess this show is basically the Walking Dead without zombies. It seems enjoyable enough, but obviously NBC will find a way to fuck it up.

Not a fan of the latest episode-death was pretty pointless-like they realized the actress wasn't very good so they jammed all her life history in one episode and killed her off. And I want to know why Miles sent them to that place to begin with.

Not a fan of the latest episode-death was pretty pointless-like they realized the actress wasn't very good so they jammed all her life history in one episode and killed her off. And I want to know why Miles sent them to that place to begin with.

If they killed her off for that then they should look into the whole cast. I deleted this from series manager today. Very disappointing.

Tried to watch the last episode, but turned it off after the British Chick tells Miles the story of how Katness's love saved her.

They made a big deal of how Katness hates and resents her in the pilot, only a couple of episodes back.


Though, if one of the main characters dies in this episode I need to finish watching it.

Either I'm really easy on shows or some people are just hyper-critical.

I'm enjoying this show. Is it a master work? No. But I find myself looking forward to it each week.

:shurg:

I like it but last nights episode was definitely the weakest and most predictable. Just seemed like a lot of unneeded filler.

I try to be forgiving, but I had trouble with the last episode.
What was the point of the crossbow booby-trap? If the guy could stab the Brit in the leg, why does he need an elaborate trap for the girl? And to the girl...your hands/legs are tied, but not your torso...duck maybe?

How is the brother dumb enough to save the guy that is holding him prisoner? Was he really surprised when he turned on him?

And Miles, we get that you don't know the girl and her family and that you are not obligated to help them. You don't have to repeat this and threaten to leave every time your decision is questioned. I feel like this should be something for the show's drinking game. Miles threatens to walk away? DRINK

After the latest episode, I think the show is starting to get pretty lame.

I still want to know 1) Why did the lights go out? 2) Why did the mom leave her family and turn herself over to the militia? 3) Who else is in this group of people with these power plant necklaces? 4) Who is Randall?

Gus has had Young Hercules for about a month or so... When has Young Hercules found time to shave so closely? His hands are tied the whole time.

Either I'm really easy on shows or some people are just hyper-critical.

I'm enjoying this show. Is it a master work? No. But I find myself looking forward to it each week.

:shurg:

It's never going to be as good as a cable drama because they have to make 2X as many episodes and the budget is going to require many bottle episodes. But I'm watching on DVR too, it's a decent show. Everything is not going to be a 9 or a 10...sometimes you can enjoy a 6.5.

It's never going to be as good as a cable drama because they have to make 2X as many episodes and the budget is going to require many bottle episodes. But I'm watching on DVR too, it's a decent show. Everything is not going to be a 9 or a 10...sometimes you can enjoy a 6.5.

I agree. It doesn't have to be the best show on tv, it just has to be decent. At least unlike the recent network sci/fi dramas from recent years (Flashforward, The Event), Revolution seems like it might stay around for awhile.

Decent side boob tonight(for network tv).

Promo for episode totally was a swerve.

the actress who plays Charlie is apparently 29-30 years old(!)...her real age is a guarded secret apparently.

Also, the revelation(two weeks ago) that the hunky spy guy was Gus Fring's(or radio Raheem if you prefer) kid was so anticlimactic. I called that an episode or two prior when Gus went on some long spiel about his son.

Oh shit...i just realized the main character from this show is the Dad in Twilight.

I mean, someone told me that, of course.

Oh shit...i just realized the main character from this show is the Dad in Twilight.

I mean, someone told me that, of course.

Ooooooooooooooooooooohhh!!! You're in truuuuuuuuuuuuble!!!!! :)

I'll admit that I was a supporter of the show, but the twist in the promo for last nights episode wAs so embarrassing. I might be out soon if they don't stop acting like the audience is a bunch of idiots

I've started skipping the promos. This show, more than any other, seems to have gone too far with how much they show in the promos - giving away their twists, etc.

The promo made it look like Charlie had to fuck the crazy druggie guy for medicine to save Nora. If you didn't see it. The ultimate story was more interesting, but they basically made it a a twist for twist's sake.

Dola-
I don't like the fat Google guy at all. Kill him off and bring a different character in. Alarming that I've seen all the eps but have 0 idea what his character's name is.

The promo made it look like Charlie had to fuck the crazy druggie guy for medicine to save Nora. If you didn't see it. The ultimate story was more interesting, but they basically made it a a twist for twist's sake.


Well, yes - in that one.

But in other promos they've given away key plot moments. I don't remember them now, but there were some key plot twists (that were real) in earlier episodes given away in promos.

Should I even bother?

I actually like the show. It's poorly acted and over-the-top which should make me hate it, but I still find it fun. One other thing I like is that they actually give us something in almost every episode that plays into the bigger story arc. Other JJ Abrams shows like Lost and Fringe keep piling on the mystery while rarely giving payoff. This adds some mystery but also is much bigger on telling the story of what happened.

I'm also a big fan of the flashbacks and finding out how everyone became connected and got to where they are.

I like the concept, the flashbacks are fun, but they would have to actively try to do a worse job casting the daughter. She's just off on every level.

Dola-
I don't like the fat Google guy at all. Kill him off and bring a different character in. Alarming that I've seen all the eps but have 0 idea what his character's name is.

I actually think he's an interesting character as he's someone who's intelligent but largely powerless, I expect the show to demonstrate him slowly adapting to things over time and it'll be intriguing whether they have him retain his peaceful nature or become harsher.

(I thought the last episode showed this side of things somewhat)

Should I even bother?

Yeah - I would, its not fantastic and there are BIG holes regarding things if you think too critically but its an enjoyable enough romp .... think of it like a modern day 'Logans Run' and you're not far off imho.

Yeah - I would, its not fantastic and there are BIG holes regarding things if you think too critically but its an enjoyable enough romp .... think of it like a modern day 'Logans Run' and you're not far off imho.

Can they just remake that damn movie already???? :rant:

Can they just remake that damn movie already???? :rant:

Loved the movie :D

(but I was meaning the TV series spin off with the solar panelled car)

Loved the movie :D

(but I was meaning the TV series spin off with the solar panelled car)

Movie's a classic. There's a remake that's been kicking around Hollywood for years I guess...I just want it to be made.

I actually think he's an interesting character as he's someone who's intelligent but largely powerless, I expect the show to demonstrate him slowly adapting to things over time and it'll be intriguing whether they have him retain his peaceful nature or become harsher.

(I thought the last episode showed this side of things somewhat)

Yeah, but what's his name...off the top of your head?

Stephen I believe?

Checked and I was wrong ;).

I actually think he's an interesting character as he's someone who's intelligent but largely powerless, I expect the show to demonstrate him slowly adapting to things over time and it'll be intriguing whether they have him retain his peaceful nature or become harsher.

(I thought the last episode showed this side of things somewhat)


But it's already been 15 years... How much more adapting do you think he can really do?

BTW, I got a chuckle out of Monroe being the same guy who played The Cape. I guess he's an NBC go to actor now for shows with good concepts that aren't particularly well executed.

I like the concept, the flashbacks are fun, but they would have to actively try to do a worse job casting the daughter. She's just off on every level.

Yeah, the show would be much better if the lead was cast better. She isn't completely terrible, but she shouldn't be a lead actor on a network show.

Yeah, the show would be much better if the lead was cast better. She isn't completely terrible, but she shouldn't be a lead actor on a network show.

It's not just her acting, something about her doesn't look right. I can't put my finger on it, but she's just off-putting to me.

I actually think he's an interesting character as he's someone who's intelligent but largely powerless, I expect the show to demonstrate him slowly adapting to things over time and it'll be intriguing whether they have him retain his peaceful nature or become harsher.

(I thought the last episode showed this side of things somewhat)


My daughter's favorite character. When it looked like they would kill him in the last episode, she said she would stop watching if they did. I have no idea why (except he might remind her of me).

It's not just her acting, something about her doesn't look right. I can't put my finger on it, but she's just off-putting to me.

I know what you're saying. I can't figure out if she's cute or not. She just looks off. I do like how all these women who are roughing it outdoors have perfect hair.

Question about the Google guy, was it supposed to be insinuated that she ends up with the young guy who kept helping out? Or was he just a stranger to show the contrast in types.

It's not just her acting, something about her doesn't look right. I can't put my finger on it, but she's just off-putting to me.

She's 30 acting 20.

I know what you're saying. I can't figure out if she's cute or not. She just looks off. I do like how all these women who are roughing it outdoors have perfect hair.

Question about the Google guy, was it supposed to be insinuated that she ends up with the young guy who kept helping out? Or was he just a stranger to show the contrast in types.

I think it was just that he was a stranger that was willing to help them. Since she was still with the Google guy when he left.

She's 30 acting 20.

I know that, but something about her look is just weird and makes her far less attractive than it seems she should be.

She's 30 acting 20.

Actually she's 25...

According to her high school newsletter, she's from the class of 2000(making her 30). Unless that was hacked or incorrect or something, which seems really unlikely

According to her high school newsletter, she's from the class of 2000(making her 30). Unless that was hacked or incorrect or something, which seems really unlikely

According to this news article she's 24.

Tracy Spiridakos hits bull’s eye with Revolution - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/tracy-spiridakos-hits-bulls-eye-with-revolution/article4554459/)

*shrug*

Who really cares.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/just-how-old-revolution-star-tracy-spiridakos

Lost boys, the reveal of Randall, a reasonable explanation for what's causing the blackout, and zero posts. Is everyone out?

So we are to believe that the main characters inadvertently developed scalable device that kills power. I'm guessing the 12 pendants were some sort of failsafe? In case the weapon was deployed?

Lost boys, the reveal of Randall, a reasonable explanation for what's causing the blackout, and zero posts. Is everyone out?
I thought it was neatly done myself - kinda intruiged.

So we are to believe that the main characters inadvertently developed scalable device that kills power. I'm guessing the 12 pendants were some sort of failsafe? In case the weapon was deployed?
I was thinking of the pendants as a 'back door' like the secret accounts/passwords which early operating systems had in them to allow their creators easy access ... ie. in case of emergency.

(which would explain why its the people from the company who appear to have them)

There it is..the comical "bad guy killing the underling for mission failure" move.

They need to bring in a storyteller to save this. They've established "wasteland' pretty well. But I'm just over the whole "surprise twist character allegiance" thing that they've done 2weeks in a row.

And nice ripoff of Breaking Bad season 3 finale.

I'd probably kill off the main baddie, the girl, the nerd and have Gus Fring take the controls.

Dola. More of Randall and the black lady. We need to know if they are shit characters too.

Dola. More of Randall and the black lady. We need to know if they are shit characters too.

At first I thought they were also creating an amplifier. Now, I think they have the device that has shut down the grid.

We need to know if they are shit characters too.

Also, that's the funniest thing I've read in the thread.

At first I thought they were also creating an amplifier. Now, I think they have the device that has shut down the grid.

I thought the pendants were a fail safe created by the team in case the weapon was deployed in a large scale. Randall def has the device

I thought the pendants were a fail safe created by the team in case the weapon was deployed in a large scale. Randall def has the device

I though they were developed to let "our" side have the advantage.
Give one to all your pilots and tank commanders then zap the battle field.

Wait... did everyone give up on this show?!?!?!

I gave up on this show when they explained how they made a device that will shut down electrical signals, then demoed it in an isolated chamber. Yet somehow the guy they were demonstrating on didn't just keel over when every single electrical signal in his body shut down. Have they explained how it shuts down everything EXCEPT living nervous systems yet?

Plus just not finding any characters I cared one whit about.

Wait... did everyone give up on this show?!?!?!

I'm still watching.

LOL that the chopper would just instantly work perfectly.

I hope the show will kill off everyone but the nurse from FNL and Billy Burke and start over, but i doubt the chopper will do that.

There's just something so off about the main girl character. She looks unsettling or something.

Wait... did everyone give up on this show?!?!?!

Yep

There's just something so off about the main girl character. She looks unsettling or something.

She is solidly in uncanny valley.

No new episodes until late March. That sucks.

LOL that the chopper would just instantly work perfectly.

I loved that:

(1) It worked first time
(2) The pilots were still able to fly it perfectly (considering this is what 15+ years on in time from the last time they flew).
(3) They had usable fuel for the helicopter available - bearing in mind that those things EAT fuel for breakfast and I expect require fairly specialised fuel.
(4) Even given the opportunity for 'power' you'd expect them to have to charge the batteries etc. as they'd be flat after being idle for 15 years surely.

(what can I say I think too much ;) )

Solid enough return. I won't pretend that this show is great, cause it's not. I think there's a few things that do work pretty well though. I really like Giancarlo as the evil baddie and the guy from Twilight is pretty solid as well. Saracin's jump off from FNL is an interesting character as well.

Good call on killing off that kid. He sucked. Charlie should be, but won't, next

dola-
I have a feeling this was network notes done right.

Am I the last fan standing?

I thought it was solid.

Am I the last fan standing?

Still watching. I'm not sure if I'll watch next season, but I've invested enough in it that I'm hanging on this season. It was a decent return I thought.

did anyone else watch the finale last night...the only word that comes to mind is...stupid.

I haven't seen the finale, but I've been watching this season out of curiosity to see where it goes. I thought the show was a cool concept - and face it, I probably got pulled in by the exterior shot of Wrigley Field in the opener - but I HATE HATE HATE lazy writing, and the whole nano-technology concept is just lazy writing and a lazy writer's way to explain themselves out of tricky situations. When they healed Elizabeth Mitchell's leg - THAT was the end of the show's last shred of integrity.

I started the thread. I'll stay in for the duration, because that's what I do for sci-fi shows. Its decent. Definitely in more on the "why the blackout" than I am on the whole Katniss and Young Hercules storyline.


I lied. I dropped out prior to the mid-season break.

I haven't seen the finale, but I've been watching this season out of curiosity to see where it goes. I thought the show was a cool concept - and face it, I probably got pulled in by the exterior shot of Wrigley Field in the opener - but I HATE HATE HATE lazy writing, and the whole nano-technology concept is just lazy writing and a lazy writer's way to explain themselves out of tricky situations. When they healed Elizabeth Mitchell's leg - THAT was the end of the show's last shred of integrity.

i wont spoil it for you unless you want me to, but if you hate lazy writing, better have a couple stiff drinks before you watch

oof

i wont spoil it for you unless you want me to, but if you hate lazy writing, better have a couple stiff drinks before you watch

spoil it please? i dropped out early.

spoil it please? i dropped out early.


ok, here you go DT


so we left off last week with Rachel and Aaron meeting up with all these other scientists/commandos with rail guns on level 11 of the tower, and the head guy telling Rachel that he wouldnt let her turn the power on...Grace explained that it might destroy the nanites and turn the power on, or it might blow up the planet, and they werent going to take the risk

fast forward to last night where Rachel drugs her friend Grace and she, Aaron, Charlie, and Nora try to get down to level 12. Nora rigs up a bomb to blow up all the scientists/commandos with rail guns, but in the course of setting it off Nora gets partially hit by a rail gun in the abdomen...(cue the first stupid part) they lock themselves in an office when they realize that Militia soldiers (now being directed by Neville, who has turned the entire army against Monroe in the course of a couple hours) are inside. Rachel knows that Nora is gonna die, but instead of going back to try to save her, insists on going forward to turn the power back on.

Charlie gives a fucking horribly written little speech about how saving Nora is more important, and Rachel basically ignores her, taking Aaron to head down to level 12. Miles now arrives (just in time to save Charlie's ass again) and they try to get Nora to the infirmary, but she bleeds out before they can get there.

Rachel and Aaron are now at the elevator to go to level 12, when they run into Neville, who is about ready to kill them when yet again, Miles shows up at the last second...a running firefight ensues where Miles one shots all the guys coming at him from 3 directions at once while none of them can hit him, but then when he shoots at Neville, he misses. (that was the next stupid part)

Our 4 heroes make it into the elevator and go down to level 12, where Aaron sits down at a random computer and follows the instructions of Rachel (who said she couldnt do it herself) despite the complicated nature of the programming "go to the root menu...go to the command line...execute the program" (seriously...that was it...super advanced technology destroyed by a dos command)

Now for the uber-stupid parts....Aaron hits enter and deactivates the nanites and within seconds, power comes back on all around the world (dont ask me where it was being generated from, or how it was being transmitted...i am sure that power stations and electrical lines were all still perfectly functional)...cut to the president of Georgia, and to Neville's and Aaron's wives reveling in their new electricity, followed by the Pres lady ordering all her tanks to march on Philly and destroy the Militia, and also to Bas standing in the middle of a field where a massive lighting display is going on (i think this was just so he could have the realization that the power was back even though he was no where near anything electric)

cut back to the tower, where our 4 heroes are still standing in the exact same spots waiting to see if they air is going to explode like Grace said it could and you hear a single gunshot...Flynn (the DoD guy) had somehow gotten down stairs and has shot the electric lock to keep him inside a bullet proof room...while in the room, and in the span of less than 2 minutes, he launches 4 ICBMs from somewhere in the midwest, targeted (2 each) at Philly and Atlanta...apparently, the 6 digit code he punched in and the one big red button he pushed were enough to launch them in a matter of minutes (because of course, they did not degrade at all since the blackout, and were already targeted at locations INSIDE the USA)...he then did a little speech about how he was eliminating both factions because he was a patriot and ends by shooting himself in the head.

cut away to the last scene, which was a dark room with a 17th century sailing ship moored outside the window and a very old american flag..enter some guy we never saw before who says "mr president, Randall Flynn has done it, we can go home"...screen pans back and a caption shows up that says "USA outpost, guantanamo bay cuba"

Solid first episode, really liked the twist of killing? a main character. They set up some cool story lines for the season

You know, this is never going to be a great show but they did an appropriate amount of retconning and I enjoy this season more. Still hung up on the Aaron has walked 3000miles in the past 12 or so months and is still fat thing.

New episodes don't pile up on my DVR anyways

some people are always gonna be fat. My mail carrier is fat.

Apparently they're providing closure in a 4 part comic.