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Getting very good reviews. Walton Goggins has been missing from my TV.

I'm going to check it out but it'll be a rerun or I'll have to get in the habit of downloading it, FX's "this show runs til 11:02!" scheduling gives my DVR hell. Tonight's episode is scheduled from 10:00 to 11:11 I noticed.

Yes I'm excited for this show. The previews and reviews are very favorable.

I'm in. Thanks for the reminder.

In like Flynt!

Reviews are outstanding, can't wait.

Elmore Leonard + Timothy Olyphant + Natalie Zea + an appearance of Walton Goggins = Definitely worth a try

I think I will be sticking with this, don't know how long they will keep Coggins around but I hope it is a awhile, there is definitely a good dynamic between him and Olyphant.

Olyphant's character reminds me a lot of his Deadwood character 130 years later, which isn't a bad thing, pretty solid debut overall IMO.

according to imdb, Coggins is in for 4 episodes

DVR'd but only got a few minutes in before I got distracted. Will have to check it out tonight.

Really good episode. I love the fact no one yells. The entire thing is so cerebral.

The pilot episode is available as a free download on iTunes (http://is.gd/aM6BH) today.

Just watched it this morning. I thought it was awesome. Olyphant is outstanding in roles like this.

finished watching it last night - loved it!!

Good start but can they keep it going?

“Justified” Scores Second-Highest Series Premiere Ever for FX - TV Ratings, Nielsen Ratings, Television Show Ratings | TVbytheNumbers.com (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/17/justified-scores-second-highest-series-premiere-ever-for-fx/45353)

Good numbers for Justified’s premiere, and it’s worth scrolling down for the historical best premieres on FX, as some of those started better than they finished. A show like Sons of Anarchy, FX’s current biggest hit (with even better 18-49 numbers than Justified’s premiere) isn’t among FX’s best premieres. Justified scored a 1.5 rating with adults 18-49, measurably less than SOA was typically doing on Tuesdays at 10p last fall. ...

Top premieres on FX
Total Viewers
Shield 4.83m
Justified 4.15m
Rescue Me 4.07m
Over There 4.06m
Dirt 3.74m

A18-49
Shield 3.04m
The Riches 2.84m
Rescue Me 2.52m
Over There 2.39m
Dirt 2.36m

M18-49
Shield 1.74m
Justified 1.42m
Rescue Me 1.34m
Over There 1.33m
The Riches 1.31m

I ended up missing it and will try to catch it on DVR this weekend, but to Jon...I read somewhere that it's already been guaranteed a second season prior to the premiere airing because of how well it tested. Just an FYI.

Good start but can they keep it going?
Justified scored a 1.5 rating with adults 18-49, measurably less than SOA was typically doing on Tuesdays at 10p last fall. ...

The answer to that question appears to be "no".

This week's episode was down nearly 50% from the debut in total viewers, and has fallen from a 1.5 rating A18-49 to this week's 0.9, off 40% from the debut.

darn.

i think it's enjoyable.

I like the show, too. The guy who runs The Hollywood Report blog said he thinks the show's ratings keep dropping because the pilot was presented as a serious drama but recent episodes have been lighter in tone and more procedural. I'd agree with that but I still think it's a good show. There's a rumor that the show is already guaranteed a second season because of how well it went over with test audiences but I don't know if it's true.

I'd like to see this show get enough time to really find itself. I think they have a good deal to work with in the lead, and I think the overall setup is pretty solid. I'm not entirely sure that I'm willing to stomach an old-style gunfighter "draw" situation just about every week, even if that is sort of the nominal undercurrent.

I just got caught up with eps 3 and 4, and now feel like I can add this to a pretty short list of shows that I make an actual effort to watch from the DVR.

More detail on Goggins' character here -- no serious spoilers that I noticed:

'Justified's' Walton Goggins does bad well - Page 2 - Los Angeles Times (http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/23/entertainment/la-et-goggins23-2010mar23/2)

I like the show, too. The guy who runs The Hollywood Report blog said he thinks the show's ratings keep dropping because the pilot was presented as a serious drama but recent episodes have been lighter in tone and more procedural. I'd agree with that but I still think it's a good show.I agree with that too... based on the previews and the pilot I assumed there'd be some sort of ongoing storyline with the criminal element in his town (neo-Nazis/his father) similar to Sons of Anarchy. The fact it's turned quickly into a one off procedural with no overarching plot is a bit disappointing, but they still have time to switch it back around - and if this weeks episode revolves around his father, maybe they'll start doing so again.

I've been watching this one and think it has a chance. Tim Goodman of the SF Chronicle does a weekly television Power Ranking and these were the comments for Justified (#3) this week:

Perhaps cursed by a brilliant pilot that may have sent the wrong message about tone, viewers are finally starting to figure out what "Justified" is trying to be. This Elmore Leonard-approved adaptation tries to mix one longer storyline (Raylan's past in Kentucky) with weekly cases. The idea is to infuse Raylan's no-blink gun play with a Leonardesque sense of humor and to slowly build up the back stories of surrounding characters. In that sense, this episode was nearly perfect, as Raylan confronts his father AND the ghosts of his past. Plus, it looks like things will heat up considerably next week. But this proved to be a nice meshing of tone and vision for "Justified."

Tim Goodman. The Bastard Machine : Power Rankings! Run for your life, there's a war at the top. Also: Upsets. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/tgoodman/detail?entry_id=61756)

Justified renewed for a 2nd season.

Friend of mine made me sit through an episode at his house a few weeks ago - it was the one where the dad rips off his tenant who is a hillbilly heroin dealer.

It was TERRIBLE.

Maybe I got a bad episode, but IMO, the protagonist actor is godawful and belongs on a soap opera.

Justified renewed for a 2nd season.

Great news. Lots to like about this show. Interesting the way the early shows used one-and-done plots early to introduce the characters before concentrating on the main story arc once they got up some steam.

I find it interesting the way they sort of bounce back and forth between one-and-done plots and the main storyline. In fact, I think the episode a couple of weeks ago with the hostage situation in the Marshall's office is probably my favorite one thus far.

Great news. Lots to like about this show. Interesting the way the early shows used one-and-done plots early to introduce the characters before concentrating on the main story arc once they got up some steam.

I haven't watched this show since the third or fourth episode because I grew tired of the one and done episodes and overly comedic elements. I loved the pilot because it was more serious and Olyphant's character was such a badass. The subsequent episodes were far less serious and that was a turn off for me given how much I loved the tone of the pilot.

Have later episodes been more serious or more similar to the pilot in tone? If so I'll start catching up.

I gather they've been more serious samifan, although I haven't paid a ton of attention. It's one of those "turn it on for background noise and look up if i'm not doing anything on my laptop" type shows when it gets into the one-and-done episodes for me. there have been more serious ones lately though.

Walton Goggins is back on the show and has just been magnificent. They are really into a main storyline now. I have enjoyed the show a lot but its picked up significantly and they seem to have really found a groove.

Have later episodes been more serious or more similar to the pilot in tone? If so I'll start catching up.

Definitely, yes. They went for a month or so of the throwaway plots as they grew the main character's history and sketched out minor characters, but shifted gears after that. I'm curious to see where they take it.

Damn! After watching the first handful of episodes, I let the next batch sit on my Tivo. I literally just deleted them last night without watching (I'm trying to make room for some summer viewing of The Shield & The Wire). Now you may have forced me to restore them...

I like the ex-wife. She's a hottie.

Pretty good finale tonight and as a show it definitely picked up more steam for me over the last 4-5 episodes. The episodes after the pilot were really mostly procedural and didn't really fit together at all, but once Boyd Crowder got out of prison the show began to focus more on serial elements and had a pretty good buildup going into tonights show.

I am glad it has been renewed for a second season and I am curious where they will take it now. I had hoped for something close to the Shield and it fell short of that, but a very good show nonetheless once it got it's legs. I will keep watching for sure.

As an aside, Walton Coggins has to be one of the more underrated actors in Television. He made the the first season for me and I hope they keep him around.

I thought it was very good. Excellent dialogue that seemed right out of an Elmore Leonard novel, Tim Olyphant and Walter Coggins were great....So was Bo Crowder and Raylen's dad....

Good Story, Action, Sex.... Thumbs Up, for me

Season 1 dvd will be released this week.

Season 2 begins Feb 9 at 10pm.

Season two begins tonight at 10 PM Eastern on FX.

so, never heard of this show but the trailers this year have been terrific. so, I'm recording this. do I need to watch season 1 first or can I just drop in now?

so, never heard of this show but the trailers this year have been terrific. so, I'm recording this. do I need to watch season 1 first or can I just drop in now?

I would think so. Each character has a history with the other characters. I'm certain the plots will refer to last season, they can't help but do that.

I wish FX would have led into last night's premiere by showing the last couple episodes from season one. Still, a pretty solid return for what has very surprisingly become one of my favorite shows going.

I'm curious to know if anyone bought the season one dvd.

I wish FX would have led into last night's premiere by showing the last couple episodes from season one.

They did, but over the last few weeks, not the same night. I missed the last few of Season 1, and now have to catch up on the last 4 of them before getting tot he new season kickoff on the DVR.

I am getting close to not having a single show that I really watch any more, but this is pretty much the standout exception.

I picked up the Blu-Ray version off Amazon for $20 when it was first released a few weeks back (up to $25 now). Well worth it, as the first season held up surprisingly well to a repeat viewing.

Haven't had a chance to watch last night's episode, but I'm looking forward to it.

I picked up the Blu-Ray version off Amazon for $20 when it was first released a few weeks back (up to $25 now). Well worth it, as the first season held up surprisingly well to a repeat viewing.

I can't afford it in the short term but might pick it up at some point. How are the special features?

They did, but over the last few weeks, not the same night. I missed the last few of Season 1, and now have to catch up on the last 4 of them before getting tot he new season kickoff on the DVR.

I am getting close to not having a single show that I really watch any more, but this is pretty much the standout exception.


i've noticed over the years, that you and I share the same taste in TV shows. "the wire" in particular, but i also like "justified...."

i'll recommend "the good wife" if you haven't seen it. good show....

The first episode this season was very strong and I like the new antagonists a lot. Very curious to see what they do with Walton Coggins character this season. This and Southland are really the only two series I watch right now.

Tried to get into Lights out, but it just hasn't hooked me yet, though I am not giving up on it.

That last episode was awesome.

Agreed, and I think it is off to a much better start than the first season. You can tell Boyd Crowder is fighting hard not to return to a life of crime and it looked like he was heading that way for a bit. We need more of him in the show.

Also love the addition of the Bennet family, the old woman is ruthless, like a hillbilly Ma Barker.

Have to agree with the general consensus - liked the first season, am loving the second season.

Just got around to watching season finale last night. WOW! I am shocked no one else posted about it. I have really enjoyed this season (much better than 1st). If Mags doesn't get nominated for some awards, that would be a crime.

I'm trying to wrap my head around that finale, but more importantly, where do they go from here? The Bennett family were great villains. But such an integral part of the area, how do they move on from that?

Well, there's a power vacuum and one man seems in a good spot to fill it up. I imagine that's where we head, and I like where its going.

I love Tim O. and think he's amazing in this, and it's in my top 5 shows right now. LOVE Boyd.

Well, there's a power vacuum and one man seems in a good spot to fill it up. I imagine that's where we head, and I like where its going.

Gotcha! :popcorn:

I enjoyed the penultimate episode more than the finale, which was a bit predictable, but very good. Too much of the cavalry arriving deus ex machina at the end for me.

My wife said, "Is this coming back? Everyone is dead."

Boyd Crowder is the best character on TV right now. Very complex, many facets, but true to himself. His actions are believable, not at all contrived. I look forward to he and Ava next season as we see who comes in to take over Harlan County. The Jere Burns character and Winona's ex-husband are likely there.

I agree with your summary Giants, I knew what Mags was going to do at the end as soon as it focused on the Mason Jar she was grabbing, no way she would have killed Raylen at that point. Still season 2 was outstanding and remember, there is still one Bennett left, albeit in custody.

Walton Coggins is one of the best character actors in the business IMO, his work in this series and The Shield is nothing short of spectacular and they could do a lot with him as the primary villian now. Timothy Olyphant is great as Raylen and there are still some places they can take this, though it may make sense to expand the geographical area they are covering, with maybe Boyd getting involved in some dabauchery in Lexington.

Definitely hope it comes back, right up there with The Shield and Rescue Me as the FX networks top series.

Is it just me or did something not seem right about the end of the season finale.

<spoiler></spoiler> Really the extremely intelligent woman, accidentally switches glasses and kills herself?I haven't re-watched to see the trickery in action, but...

It ends right there, my gut says she is faking it. Why kill off arguably the best character?

Certainly was no accident. She had nothing left. The two boys she loved gone, the girl tries to kill her, she's admitted to murder in front of federal marshals.

I know I'm in the minority but I liked the show better when it split time between the Boyd/Harlan crooks story line and the "more marshal" like cases every few weeks. Mags was a great character but I grew tired of some of the other characters every week.

Certainly was no accident. She had nothing left. The two boys she loved gone, the girl tries to kill her, she's admitted to murder in front of federal marshals.

Oh yea, forgot about the whole murder thing, that puts a slight damper on my theory. Kudos, to you sir.

I enjoyed the penultimate episode more than the finale, which was a bit predictable, but very good. Too much of the cavalry arriving deus ex machina at the end for me.

My wife said, "Is this coming back? Everyone is dead."

Boyd Crowder is the best character on TV right now. Very complex, many facets, but true to himself. His actions are believable, not at all contrived. I look forward to he and Ava next season as we see who comes in to take over Harlan County. The Jere Burns character and Winona's ex-husband are likely there.

Just got caught up a couple days ago - this post sums up my feelings. Liked season two a lot, last episode was necessary but unrewarding, but there are quite a number of characters there that they could do things with. I can't get enough of Win Duffy (Jere Burns).

I liked the season but felt they tried to stretch things out with the lame storyline involving the cash from the evidence locker. I liked the symmetry between the first and last episodes with the poison but agree that it was ultimately unsatisfying.

I wonder if she had two poisoned mugs and chose to use just the one...

I don't expect they will have much trouble coming up with new bad guys for next season. The writers seem to have a clue what they're doing.

Excellent start to the season.

Excellent start to the season.

Agreed. I've been a Neal McDonough fan for a long time and I'm excited to see what he adds to the show.

Very interesting start, Nicks is one creepy dude.

I wondered what the hell Boyd was up to attacking Raylen in the Marshalls office........That became pretty clear at the end of the episode :)

this has been a great season so far.

I like the way they are interwining the main storyline with the minor ones. They are getting better at this every season.

I don't like seeing a good guy from Band of Brothers portray a villain. Besides that I give a big thumbs up for the start of season 3.

I don't like seeing a good guy from Band of Brothers portray a villain. Besides that I give a big thumbs up for the start of season 3.

I like how they utilize actors from other series that way. I had to do a bit of Googling to figure out the nurse this episode was played by Maggie Lawson from Psych.

This is turning out to be the best season yet IMO, really like the chess match going on between Quarles, Boyd Crowder and Raylen Givens.

Not to mention last nights return of the 'old friend'

I loved the season, but I have to say I was a little disappointed by the finale - just seemed like there were all these showdowns building that never really materialized

Where I felt last season was excellent, I felt this season was merely pretty good. On the otherhand, I felt that the ending was excellent. I felt that it paid off a lot of what had come before in deep resonant ways, whether with Limehouse or with Arlo or with Boyd & Ava.

Meh. I thought Quarles was an unconvincing, uncompelling villain. The season dragged. I get the feeling that writers are being pressured to make more episodes than they really have story to fill. Whatever the reason, season three was muddled and uneven.

I was a little disappointed in the finale as well. I thought earlier in the season that there was potential for a huge blowoff in the finale and they kind of dropped the ball.

I actually liked Quarles, but felt they just didn't have a clear plan on how to deal with him the last couple of episodes, just felt flat.

On the other hand, I liked where they went with Arlo and like that Boyd and Raylen are set up for a potentially good storyline next season. Limehouse could be utilized next season as well, but hopefully they don't bring in any more major villians. I would like to see the show return more to the season 2 formula that did a really good job of weaving one offs with the main storyline IMO.

I got the chance to watch the last episode and have to say I really enjoyed it. I paid attention to all the little clues they sprinkled in this season that Arlo was going all Pat Summit. His calling Boyd 'Raylon' during the penultimate episode rally setup the finale plot resolution. Raylon explaining to Winona who the man in the hat was that Arlo thought he was protecting Boyd from was excellent.

Jere Burns was a mediocre comic actor but has become an excellent bad guy on this show and on BURN NOTICE. His acting in the trailer with Raylon was top notch.

Qualres was over-the-top, and prolonged during the season, but his demise was one of the season's biggest laughs for me.

From: FX sets January premieres for Justified, Archer, Anger Management & more (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/fx-sets-january-premieres-for-justified-archer-anger-management-more)

Season 4 of "Justified" will debut on Tuesday, January 8 at 10 p.m. Stories this season will include Raylan Givens investigating a cold case that ties back to his childhood and his father's criminal past, and Boyd Crowder dealing with the arrival of a charismatic Pentecostal preacher.


I caught up on this show a few months ago, looking forward to a new season!

w00+

Did this show ever find like...direction?

I dropped it awhile back, but if it's got some sense of like...what kinda show it wants to be I could pick it back up again.

Did this show ever find like...direction?

I dropped it awhile back, but if it's got some sense of like...what kinda show it wants to be I could pick it back up again.

How early along did you drop it?

The questions about the direction of the show ended about 4 or 5 episodes into the first season IIRC. There are still frequently "crimes of the week" to be solved, but there is a very, very heavily serialized element to the show. Seasons 2 and 3 each had major guest characters involved in a storyline that dominated that season in addition to Raylan vs Boyd.


I rate Justified behind Breaking Bad and Mad Men as far as best dramas on TV, ahead of anything else I can think of from the last 3-4 years (I don't get any pay channels so exclude Homeland, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, etc, from my judgement).

How early along did you drop it?

The questions about the direction of the show ended about 4 or 5 episodes into the first season IIRC. There are still frequently "crimes of the week" to be solved, but there is a very, very heavily serialized element to the show. Seasons 2 and 3 each had major guest characters involved in a storyline that dominated that season in addition to Raylan vs Boyd.


I rate Justified behind Breaking Bad and Mad Men as far as best dramas on TV, ahead of anything else I can think of from the last 3-4 years (I don't get any pay channels so exclude Homeland, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, etc, from my judgement).

I probably dropped it...5-6 episodes in I guess. Maybe right after it started to go in the serialized direction - wasn't sure if that was just a flirtation of theirs or what.

I would give it another shot DT, it is definitely another in a long line of solid shows on FX. Not quite up there with The Shield, but still damn good.

Cool. I'll put it on the list of things to catch up on. Always enjoyed Olyphant, so I ought to like it just fine.

I think the second season of Justified belongs up there in discussion for all time greatest seasons of a show. Not top 10, but I'd probably place it somewhere in the top 25.

I agree, definitely in the discussion

I think the second season of Justified belongs up there in discussion for all time greatest seasons of a show. Not top 10, but I'd probably place it somewhere in the top 25.

Easily top 25. The only reason it might not be top 10 is because I might just have to put 4 seasons of the Wire and 4 seasons of Breaking Bad at the top. I do think I'd rate it as better than most seasons of the Sopranos and... well its so hard to compare Mad Men to other shows, but probably better than most seasons of Mad Men, and those are my go to top 4 shows of all time. I think Justified Season 2 could stand up to anything else on any other show that I've ever seen. And Mags Bennett may be my second favorite villain of all time behind Gus Fring on Breaking Bad.

Anyone else really enjoy the season 4 debut?

I thought it was just kinda okay. Of course I bought and watched the first three seasons over the holidays so maybe there was a little burnout.

I thought it was just kinda okay.

+1

I loved it. I am feeling a bit tired of Boyd; great character but he's becoming a bit repetitive. still love the show though

I liked it too, they have really got the formula dialed in now of running one offs through the seasons main plotline.

Alway a lot of little tidbits of dark comedy which I like as well, such as..

"I meant untie him, not shoot him" :)

Loved tonight's episode. Walton Goggins is simply amazing, I'll take all the screen time I can get from him, and the first interaction between him and the new preacher was quite enjoyable. I also love Jere Burns (Wynn Duffy) and was quite happy to see him tonight.

Loved tonight's episode. Walton Goggins is simply amazing, I'll take all the screen time I can get from him, and the first interaction between him and the new preacher was quite enjoyable. I also love Jere Burns (Wynn Duffy) and was quite happy to see him tonight.

Agreed, definitely set up some interesting possibilities tonight. Coggins and Burns are both very solid in their roles, love the way Duffy is so passive / aggressive.

Cool cameo by Donald Cerrone in that backyard fight too.

I liked it too, they have really got the formula dialed in now of running one offs through the seasons main plotline.

Alway a lot of little tidbits of dark comedy which I like as well, such as..

"I meant untie him, not shoot him" :)

I though that part was hilarious

absolutely spectacular episode tonight. Gerald McRaney will be back a lot more hopefully.

I'm really interested in all of the storylines they have going now, I wonder if they have enough going on that there won't be a crime of the week to solve for awhile.

absolutely spectacular episode tonight. Gerald McRaney will be back a lot more hopefully.

I'm really interested in all of the storylines they have going now, I wonder if they have enough going on that there won't be a crime of the week to solve for awhile.

As someone who lives in Clover Hill, VA, I'm delighted a place by that name has made it into Justified. That and the return of the General from Chuck as the leader of the Hill People.

Also, having Raylon tell Colt "You're gonna need a saw" just before he found the foot and tracker had me laughing even before he said "My goodness" when he spotted the foot.

Constable Bob was terrific in his small way. I though he had Ella May before she turned up with the Sheriff. That will end badly, I'm certain.

Constable Bob was terrific in his small way. I though he had Ella May before she turned up with the Sheriff.

I thought so too. I expected her to drop into Raylan's lap (figuratively, I swear) by the end of the episode after Constable Bob bragged about the awesome police work he was doing in a conversation with Raylan.

Question on the last episodeWhat was the prior connection between the filmmaker/ex-con and Jackie Nevada? It cut straight from filmmaker & escaped con seeing Raylan talking to her for the first time in the house, to the con sitting in her house before she got back. Was it as simple as the ex-con knowing where his ex-wife's friends live, or was there some other connection I missed? I thought the filmmaker said something, but couldn't make it out.
Also, Tim continues to kill it with his one line per episode. As much as I love Raylan, Boyd, Wynn Duffy et al, I'd love to get more Tim/Rachel/Art.

Question on the last episodeWhat was the prior connection between the filmmaker/ex-con and Jackie Nevada? It cut straight from filmmaker & escaped con seeing Raylan talking to her for the first time in the house, to the con sitting in her house before she got back. Was it as simple as the ex-con knowing where his ex-wife's friends live, or was there some other connection I missed? I thought the filmmaker said something, but couldn't make it out.
Also, Tim continues to kill it with his one line per episode. As much as I love Raylan, Boyd, Wynn Duffy et al, I'd love to get more Tim/Rachel/Art.

No connection I could pick up other than an old sorority sister. I am thinking she is just another short term lust interest for Raylen, though I am sure there will be some interesting twist involving her.

They always seem to do a good job of that and it is the only reason I can think of for having him escape and murder the two Marshalls, then go down so easily when Raylen found him.

My guess is the poker player girl either enters law enforcement or becomes a criminal.

A few spoilers here after tonight's episode:


--I'm really going to miss Arlo, too bad.

-- Brent Sexton (the guy who plays the cop in jail who killed Arlo) was literally the only good thing about The Killing, happy to see him get some more time here.

-- If this were a lesser show, I would bet my house that Sheriff Shelby was Drew Thompson. His interest in the wife was pretty damn blatant. Justified is smart enough that it could be for other reasons. Maybe Shelby is interested because he knows Boyd is interested, or maybe its just to throw us off.

-- BOYD IS SO F'ING AWESOME THAT WAS SO GOOD. I love Boyd. But, does this mean Wynn Duffy is gone? I hope not!


What a great episode.

A few spoilers here after tonight's episode:


--I'm really going to miss Arlo, too bad.

-- Brent Sexton (the guy who plays the cop in jail who killed Arlo) was literally the only good thing about The Killing, happy to see him get some more time here.

-- If this were a lesser show, I would bet my house that Sheriff Shelby was Drew Thompson. His interest in the wife was pretty damn blatant. Justified is smart enough that it could be for other reasons. Maybe Shelby is interested because he knows Boyd is interested, or maybe its just to throw us off.

-- BOYD IS SO F'ING AWESOME THAT WAS SO GOOD. I love Boyd. But, does this mean Wynn Duffy is gone? I hope not!


What a great episode.

Agree with all of that, solid episode! And in regards to #1, me too, didn't think anything could do that tough SOB in.

Anybody watching The Americans on FX? Really great show so far.

Radii, thanks for pointing out where I'd seen Brent Sexton before.

This season is shaping up well with all the threads likely to converge in the last episode. As much as I want to know who Drew Thompson is, I don't want this to end.

And more Constable Bob next week!

And more Constable Bob next week!

He is money for sure!

He is money for sure!

He and his go bag are gonna come up big.

Seasons 1-3 are free on Amazon Prime. Dammit. I just bought seasons 1-2 on DVD. Oh well.

great episode last week - the "Jesus, I sure hope I got that right" line was brilliant

Another spectacular, entertaining episode tonight. Won't say too much that could spoil anything, but I will say that I rewound the DVR 3 times to watch the speech Art made about how awesome Drew Thompson is over and over.

Another spectacular, entertaining episode tonight. Won't say too much that could spoil anything, but I will say that I rewound the DVR 3 times to watch the speech Art made about how awesome Drew Thompson is over and over.

Agreed. Art killed it with that speech...ha.

Another spectacular, entertaining episode tonight. Won't say too much that could spoil anything, but I will say that I rewound the DVR 3 times to watch the speech Art made about how awesome Drew Thompson is over and over.

These are the little off the wall things that completely make this show. Agreed, excellent episode and it was cool to see Limehouse back as well.

Art and the return of Limehouse made this one, but I do think my favorite line of this season was delivered by Johnny's whore:

"If she (Ella Mae) had someone she could count on, I don't guess she'd be sucking Hill Billy dick for a living."

Boyd and Eva continue to be a great couple. I hope they get better than a Bonnie and Clyde ending for the series wrap-up.

Seasons 1-3 are free on Amazon Prime. Dammit. I just bought seasons 1-2 on DVD. Oh well.

Damn, I just saw this. I can finally watch the show and get caught up.

GOD DAMN that was good.

Spoiling lots w/ lots of thoughts about this episode and a few predictions for the rest of the season:



-- Ok, first, every single line of dialogue in that episode was fucking gold. There was no letdown. Art was his usual self, the phone call between Tim and Colt was epic, Constable Bob has guts after all!! .. as usual everything Boyd says is perfect, the Detroit guy (can't remember his name) going on and on to Ava with his "how many dicks have you sucked to get where you are?" was jawdropping, followed right up by revealing Johnny to be a traitor, Drew going on about Arlo and pissing off Raylan... hell I want to see a full hour of Drew Thompson telling war stories now. Seriously, the writing and acting in this was fucking brilliant. Not a single line wasted or without impact.


-- I loved seeing Constable Bob come up big there. For once, not all talk. "Drewbaka?" Also, that was quite the beating, that was pretty rough even for FX.

-- Johnny doesn't survive the season, right? One last conversation with Boyd, I assume. Maybe the Detroit folks finish him, but I feel like its more likely that we get one last scene with Boyd and Johnny, and Johnny finally getting to tell Boyd that he was supposed to be the boss and its not fair.

-- Colt doesn't survive the season either I assume? I'm shocked he's still alive really given the magnitude of his fuck-up with Ellen May.

-- They've done a decent job building Tim (the sniper marshall) up into a good character this year, enough so that if he and Colt have some standoff and he dies it would carry a lot of weight now. I'm not predicting this one, I don't think they'll kill off the good guys, but there's been enough buildup with Tim that if there is a big Tim/Colt showdown I won't be 100% sure who is going to win it.

-- No Ellen May at all in this one but we can't be done with her, right?

-- Drew is out of Harlan, but with two full episodes to go, I assume he's not safe yet either.

-- Speaking of two episodes to go... that feels like a lot at this point. This feels like a *extremely* strong next to last episode to a season. The fact that there are still two more to go after this one sets expectations very high! Between Drew, Ellen May, Boyd/Ava, Johnny, and Detroit though there is a lot they can choose to address. Some of it could reasonably linger in to next season if they want as well.

-- I assume Ava/Boyd end the season on the run/in hiding from the Detroit folks.


Ok, I think that's it. Holy crap that was so god damn good.

GOD DAMN that was good.

Spoiling lots w/ lots of thoughts about this episode and a few predictions for the rest of the season:



-- Ok, first, every single line of dialogue in that episode was fucking gold. There was no letdown. Art was his usual self, the phone call between Tim and Colt was epic, Constable Bob has guts after all!! .. as usual everything Boyd says is perfect, the Detroit guy (can't remember his name) going on and on to Ava with his "how many dicks have you sucked to get where you are?" was jawdropping, followed right up by revealing Johnny to be a traitor, Drew going on about Arlo and pissing off Raylan... hell I want to see a full hour of Drew Thompson telling war stories now. Seriously, the writing and acting in this was fucking brilliant. Not a single line wasted or without impact.


-- I loved seeing Constable Bob come up big there. For once, not all talk. "Drewbaka?" Also, that was quite the beating, that was pretty rough even for FX.

-- Johnny doesn't survive the season, right? One last conversation with Boyd, I assume. Maybe the Detroit folks finish him, but I feel like its more likely that we get one last scene with Boyd and Johnny, and Johnny finally getting to tell Boyd that he was supposed to be the boss and its not fair.

-- Colt doesn't survive the season either I assume? I'm shocked he's still alive really given the magnitude of his fuck-up with Ellen May.

-- They've done a decent job building Tim (the sniper marshall) up into a good character this year, enough so that if he and Colt have some standoff and he dies it would carry a lot of weight now. I'm not predicting this one, I don't think they'll kill off the good guys, but there's been enough buildup with Tim that if there is a big Tim/Colt showdown I won't be 100% sure who is going to win it.

-- No Ellen May at all in this one but we can't be done with her, right?

-- Drew is out of Harlan, but with two full episodes to go, I assume he's not safe yet either.

-- Speaking of two episodes to go... that feels like a lot at this point. This feels like a *extremely* strong next to last episode to a season. The fact that there are still two more to go after this one sets expectations very high! Between Drew, Ellen May, Boyd/Ava, Johnny, and Detroit though there is a lot they can choose to address. Some of it could reasonably linger in to next season if they want as well.

-- I assume Ava/Boyd end the season on the run/in hiding from the Detroit folks.


Ok, I think that's it. Holy crap that was so god damn good.

Good thoughts and I agree totally.....but you forgot, "Drew Mama" :)

-- They've done a decent job building Tim (the sniper marshall) up into a good character this year, enough so that if he and Colt have some standoff and he dies it would carry a lot of weight now. I'm not predicting this one, I don't think they'll kill off the good guys, but there's been enough buildup with Tim that if there is a big Tim/Colt showdown I won't be 100% sure who is going to win it.I've actually been a lot more worried about them foreshadowing Art's demise... from the opening episode when the other marshal was sniffing around his job to Rachel telling Raylan she wouldn't mind if he became her boss. I seriously doubt they would make Raylan the boss, and would instead set up conflict with whatever new supervisor came in, but I really hope if they do push Art out it's because he's pushed out, and not killed off.

Speaking of Marshal character development, have they been setting up something up between Rachel and Raylan? Or does she just enjoy messing with him? I hope it's the latter.

I've actually been a lot more worried about them foreshadowing Art's demise

That's a great point, and it would fit, moreso than Tim probably.

Speaking of Marshal character development, have they been setting up something up between Rachel and Raylan? Or does she just enjoy messing with him? I hope it's the latter.

I think its up in the air at this point, there have definitely been flirtatious moments, I have no guess if that is just part of trying to develop Rachel as a more meaningful character or if that's going somewhere. It never seems to work out in the end for Raylan's women, so I'm with you, I hope she's just messing with him.

Outstanding episode, as others have said. This show does an outstanding job in taking second-rate comedic actors and turning them into villans (Jere Burns, Mike O'Malley, the girl friend from Psych, there were others earlier) or unexpected tough guys--Patton Oswalt as Constable Bob.

Amazing how much cocksucking is getting talked about or shown on F/X. Two episodes ago, it was the joke I mentioned. However, this week it was the brutal way Mr. Antonio(?) denigrated Eva's status in front of Bobby. We know how/why Detroit thinks so little of Harlan County after that speech. Then I caught up on The Americans a bit and saw that female spies give bj's for info a lot. Won't see that on network shows. They won't show that on Covert Affairs.

I hope there is no let down for the last two episodes, however the way each scene topped the next this week gives a lot of hope that the best is yet to come.

Another great episode and it sets up what should be a great finale

Glad to see the Tim / Colt showdown finally happen after it had been teased the last few episodes. Great set up at the end when it panned to Picker as the guy setting the chair up for Raylen's ex, I half expected the episode to end with an explosion. And as usual another nice one liner from Art "Goddammit Raylen, people don't get to pick when they get suspended, that's called a vacation! :)

This has been a really solid season IMO.

No surprise, I loved the finale. May have more thoughts later but a couple real quick ones:


-- The resolution with Nicky Augustine was beautiful. The scene in the limo was outstanding, it would have been a damn shame to end the season without the two of them doing something like that. It was made even better by the fact that we know Raylan is pretty close to crazy enough to just shoot the guy, so there was high tension through all of it. The way he did resolve it was outstanding, plausible enough in this world that I am not going to complain one bit.

-- I enjoyed the way the Ava/Boyd story played out, I think I expected Ava to die in this one going in, this works. And it gives us another reason for another huge shift in Boyd's personality going into next year. Walton Goggins is fucking brilliant and I love seeing what he gets to do on this show.

-- They found a reasonable way to keep Wynn Duffy around, hooray!

-- Art didn't retire yet, hooray!

-- The ending was so perfect. Patching up the hole in the wall at Arlo's that started the whole mess, one last look at Arlo's grave. Raylan isn't going to break down in grief for Arlo's passing, but that completed his sendoff in a great way.

-- Mike O'Malley deserves an emmy nomination for this.

-- I think my only complaint is some confusion about that damn chair Picker put in Wynona's house at the end of the last episode. I left the last episode thinking that had to be a bomb, too complicated a method to just scope out the house or plant a listening device or camera in the house, they could have done that easily when she wasn't there sometime, but I guess in the end it wasn't a bomb or that would have clearly come up heh. I dunno, the whole chair thing just confused me.


That was such a strong season, can't wait to read some reviews and see what others thought.

Do we really need spoiler tags in this thread? Really, anyone that clicks on this thread without being caught up should fully expect to be 'spoiled'. Just my humble opinion...

I think this season was the most consistent and entertaining to date. The whole 'who's Drew' story got a little tiresome mid-season but rebounded late. Goggins is crushing the Boyd Crowder role.

I like the whole package. Writing, producing, casting, acting...quality everywhere.

Agreed, this was the best season yet IMO and it sets up some very interesting possibilities for season 5.

I think the chair delivery may have been just to gather intel and set up a way to get into the house perhaps, or more simply just to keep viewers guessing (Bomb?) to build for the finale as killing Raylen's ex could have been another way they could have taken it, since her appearances were limited this season (and she is a main character on The Following)

Agreed on Crowder, he is a complex character and Coggins plays him brilliantly, he is a helluva of an actor and does not get the credit he deserves. I have a feeling he will take crazy to a whole new level next season. The double cross catching Eva with the body was brilliant BTW.

Agreed on the ending, you would almost expect something explosive with this show and instead they go subtle and it was done very well, patching the wall completed the circle.

Think we see Duffy gain a more prominent role next season and that is a good thing.

Do we really need spoiler tags in this thread? Really, anyone that clicks on this thread without being caught up should fully expect to be 'spoiled'. Just my humble opinion...

I think this season was the most consistent and entertaining to date. The whole 'who's Drew' story got a little tiresome mid-season but rebounded late. Goggins is crushing the Boyd Crowder role.

I like the whole package. Writing, producing, casting, acting...quality everywhere.

Coggins is just plain awesome

For some reason I just feel obliged to follow with my own spoiler tag when there is already one :)

Do we really need spoiler tags in this thread? Really, anyone that clicks on this thread without being caught up should fully expect to be 'spoiled'. Just my humble opinion...


Yeah I think someone used them once and everyone just followed along. May have been me that used them once b/c I wasn't sure since I jumped into the show late :D

I'd be happy to not use them next season!

great ending to a great season. this show kicks so much ass

great ending to a great season. this show kicks so much ass

Definitely in my top 3 new along with SOA and Walking Dead.

I am really enjoying The Following too, actually kinda surprised it hasn't gotten any love on FOFC.

Definitely in my top 3 new along with SOA and Walking Dead.

I am really enjoying The Following too, actually kinda surprised it hasn't gotten any love on FOFC.


The first 3 episodes of The Following were fantastic, but the stupidity of law enforcement on this show has gone to far.

The first 3 episodes of The Following were fantastic, but the stupidity of law enforcement, except for Kevin Bacon, on this show has gone to far.

Fixed it :)

I will admit one thing that annoys me is how many times there are only 1 or 2 agents looking into something, when in reality you know there would be 20. Right now what is holding me are the characters, especially the conflict brewing inside the cult.

Excellent season, great last episode. My favorite scene was Boyd and Raylon driving to meet Augustine and each asking how the other sleeps at night.

Who wins a draw down between Boyd/Eva and Raylon/Winona? That has to be the series wrap-up scene, whenever we get to it.

The parallels between the couples -- going for respectability, losing each other at the end, the closing scenes of both men in the homes they never really had -- keep me watching.

Review: Justified back on target for final season (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-justified-back-on-target-for-final-season)

Last season Justified chat was just in the tV thread, huh? Hopefully the final season will be good enough again that it deserves its own thread.

I definitely found last season disappointing, but have high hopes for how it will conclude.

I have high hopes as well, have consistently enjoyed this show since it found it's legs midway through season 1. Season 2 with the Bennett's holds a slight edge as my favorite to date.

Despite starting this thread 5 years ago, this is only my 3rd post in it. The second was how I missed the original airing of the premiere but planned on catching it soon.

I think I officially gave up on it early last season when I realized that I really had to force myself to watch it. I'm not sure why it never really caught on with me, since I'm generally a fan of the FX dramas and like so much of the cast.

Holy hell what is up with the close up camera

Alright, one episode left, any predictions? I don't think they'd do the "Raylan shoots Boyd, but gets punished for it" thing as it'd parallel The Shield too much, but if Raylan was kicked out of the Marshal service and allowed to go live in Florida he'd probably be happy with that (at least initially).

But I'll go with a showdown where Boyd shoots Ava and Raylan shoots him. Then Raylan gets shot by Boone/Markham (who are killed by Loretta) because ending every season with a different rendition of You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive has to mean something.

Finally, if she's not going to show up on the show, Jackie Nevada shows up at my house to watch the finale. :cool:

I think Boone's empty round will matter. Beyond that I've got no idea.

Raylan outdraws Boone

Ava ends up in jail

Boyd dead, but not by Raylan's hand (sniper Tim? I'd love for it to be Art, but I'm going to go with Tim)

A Shield style ending for Raylan makes SO MUCH SENSE, the only reason not to do it is the comparisons to Vic Mackey. I'm going to be vague and say that Raylan lives, does not end up in jail, but does not get a full out happy ending.

Markham dies while going after his money. Uncle Zachariah was a patsy the whole time, he's not getting out alive either.

Loretta ends up the big winner here, all threats/competition removed and she will be the next Mags Bennett.

I mentioned Art already, but I have a bad feeling about this... I don't think Art just stays at HQ and gets to retire. He ends up in the field b/c of Raylan's bullshit, he either ends up the big hero in the end, killing boyd, or he ends up dying because of Raylan's bullshit. I've had the feeling Art is gonna die for a long time now, I think Art dies in a way that puts it entirely on Raylan (not that raylan kills him, but that Art ends up in a bad situation entirely b/c of Raylan's going rogue and its abundantly clear to everyone that its Raylan's fault).


I dunno... the only one I'd put money on is Raylan outdraws Boone in a showdown. The rest, can't wait to find out. Also, that's a lot of loose ends left, isn't it?

I'll wait for everyone else to watch before posting any details, but the ending was just about perfect for me.

I watched the last three episodes this week and really got back into this. I'll miss JUSTIFIED, however I'm satisfied, perhaps more than the way LOST and THE SOPRANOS ended.

Win Duffy surviving the bloodbath in his trailer and then calling 911, "What is the nature of the emergency? I can't even begin," was great. Jere Burns has become a great villain (Burn Notice, too); I hope he gets more roles in this vein.

Boon (and why he doesn't have an 'e' on the end is odd) was more annoying than interesting for me, however I liked the actor and his work.

I'll wait for everyone else to watch before posting any details, but the ending was just about perfect for me.

I watched the last three episodes this week and really got back into this. I'll miss JUSTIFIED, however I'm satisfied, perhaps more than the way LOST and THE SOPRANOS ended.

Win Duffy surviving the bloodbath in his trailer and then calling 911, "What is the nature of the emergency? I can't even begin," was great. Jere Burns has become a great villain (Burn Notice, too); I hope he gets more roles in this vein.

Boon (and why he doesn't have an 'e' on the end is odd) was more annoying than interesting for me, however I liked the actor and his work.

I thought the ending was just about perfect, not overdone, very low key but closed the loop. After a shaky first season this show really picked it up, one of my favorites and I am going to miss it as well. Olyphant, Burns, Coggins all were great in their parts and the revolving cast of seasonal villains was solid every season for the most part. Mags Bennett may be my favorite, but Markham and his menagerie were entertaining as well.

The carnage in Duffy's trailer was a very powerful segment, Burns is just one helluva an actor. Again, great show that they didn't milk for an extra season or two, which would have spoiled it.

I'm not going to worry about SPOILERS.

Solid finale. Didn't really think the 4 years later coda was necessary, would've been fine with Raylan sitting up as Ava pulls away, but at least they ended with Raylan vs Boyd and closing the loop there. I really thought Raylan might bite it during the showdown vs Boon, but I liked how they foreshadowed Boon's miss when he winged Loretta's ex-boyfriend ("That's the risk with going for headshots over shooting center mass, but you never know when someone's wearing a vest.")

With the praise Better Call Saul is getting maybe we can get a Wynn Duffy spinoff!