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Airhog
03-07-2003, 03:17 PM
Check out these two links and tell me what you think.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035778519658&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724

Ksyrup
03-07-2003, 03:22 PM
From that picture that keeps making the rounds of the guy looking disheveled and completely dazed, I thought we might have captured the Muslim look-alike of Ron Jeremy!

TroyF
03-07-2003, 03:32 PM
Ksyrup,

That was exactly my thought. I figured Ron Jeremy was now a terrorist. :)

TroyF

Tekneek
03-07-2003, 03:35 PM
Doesn't sound real good based off of those links.

rexalllsc
03-07-2003, 03:37 PM
The US has made two other arrests (inc. Saad bin Laden) since grabbing this pud. It's him.

Airhog
03-07-2003, 03:45 PM
Thats fine and dandy but do you have any proof to prove otherwise? The governemt can say all day that they captured him, but the only thing I have seen is that one picture.

Senator
03-07-2003, 04:08 PM
Note to Bush: Please keep Airhog apprised of any and all secret activities.

Thank you.

rexalllsc
03-07-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Airhog
Thats fine and dandy but do you have any proof to prove otherwise? The governemt can say all day that they captured him, but the only thing I have seen is that one picture.

Maybe they'll give us a live webcam to his interogation, huh?

Come on!

Airhog
03-07-2003, 04:15 PM
Look im not saying anything, but isnt it just a little bit odd that a paper in asia reported that he was killed, yet we heard nothing about it, not even one article on any major western news sites.

sachmo71
03-07-2003, 04:26 PM
He looks like he smells really bad. Maybe he was hiding in a crawl space or something.

Airhog
03-07-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by rexalllsc
Maybe they'll give us a live webcam to his interogation, huh?

Come on!

Look its obvious that you believe he was captured. But we have no more proof that he was captured, then we have proof he was already dead.

Ksyrup
03-07-2003, 04:33 PM
Seriously, isn't that old news? I remember hearing that the guy was probably killed a long time ago.

Or, maybe that was another of binny pals. I don't recall that guy doing a gangbang with Seka anyway.

Airhog
03-07-2003, 04:50 PM
Okay, here is another link that shows many sources of news and how odd this whole case is.


http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/completetimeline/main/essayksmcapture.html

JPhillips
03-07-2003, 04:57 PM
Rexall: The two arrests story has now been discredited by numerous sources.

BTW: If Ron Jeremy isn't guilty of having a weapon of mass destruction, who is?

Anthony
03-07-2003, 05:10 PM
that link doesn't come from an established news service. looks like someone's personal website.

you must one of those.

...you know - the ones who believe everything they read.

Anthony
03-07-2003, 05:11 PM
LOOK OUT AIRHOG - THE SKY IS FALLING!!!


hahahaha, see, i knew it.

Airhog
03-07-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
that link doesn't come from an established news service. looks like someone's personal website.

you must one of those.

...you know - the ones who believe everything they read.

I think your taking that out of context. most of it is documented from reputable news agencies around the world. The man does put a personal opinion on things in that article, but all those links are legitimate

QuikSand
03-07-2003, 05:23 PM
I'm not one to overuse the internet cliche "lol" - but this thread got me, more than once.

The Afoci
03-07-2003, 05:40 PM
How can you all still be on the internet when the sky is falling... I read it on a web site once that if you masterbate, you get a big ass... so watch out for that too.

Tekneek
03-07-2003, 06:45 PM
The way some of you talk, you'd think the US government is honest. You guys don't really believe they tell the truth all the time, do you? I didn't think any adult in this country, and even the entire world, really believed the US government was an honest one.

Ryan S
03-07-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Airhog
Look im not saying anything, but isnt it just a little bit odd that a paper in asia reported that he was killed, yet we heard nothing about it, not even one article on any major western news sites.

Newspapers in Asia also report that Israel and India (depending on where they are based) were responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

Senator
03-07-2003, 06:57 PM
The way some of you talk, you'd think the US government is honest. You guys don't really believe they tell the truth all the time, do you? I didn't think any adult in this country, and even the entire world, really believed the US government was an honest one.


What has that have to do with THIS issue. If we believe the government AT ALL, this makes us sheep?

Anrhydeddu
03-07-2003, 07:00 PM
If they did not find a crotchless leotard in that house, then it's not Jeremy.

Tekneek
03-07-2003, 07:03 PM
No, but the way you are jumping on Airhog for not believing the goverment would indicate that you might be sheep.

Airhog
03-07-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Ryan S
Newspapers in Asia also report that Israel and India (depending on where they are based) were responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

That may be true, but in order to objectively observe an issue, you have to look at several sources.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1029/p08s01-wosc.html
This report says he was killed

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-ksm22dec22.story
this one says he narrowed escaped capture.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/09/16/wpak116.xml
this one says he was dead

http://www.da.wvu.edu/archives/021609/news/world_nation.html
this one suggest that he was captured.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_9-9-2002_pg1_1

this article suggests he was captured several months before.


all these arcticles suggest that this isnt a clear-cut issue. We may never know what happened. And too believe the major news sources in the U.S. is just as foolish as believeing sources from other parts of the world as fact.

kcchief19
03-07-2003, 07:51 PM
Granted, our government hasn't helped its case by changing the story on this guy by claiming he's dead, then he's not, then he is and finally he is singing like a canary at an "undisclosed location." I wonder if that is the same "undisclosed location" we are storing Cheney in case the shit hits the fan.

Of course, the original article you cited from the Toronto Sun was a reprint from The Independent, a British paper with only slightly less credibilty than ABC News, which bit hard on The Indepenedent's story about the "mystery ships" in the Gulf and fell for the bin Laden captured story today.

CamEdwards
03-07-2003, 08:07 PM
None of the articles you cite says Mohammed is anything other than alive. Two of them say authorities are wondering if a dead man is Mohammed. One of them says authorities doubt the body is Mohammed.

NONE of the articles state anything as fact... as opposed to the recent articles stating his capture as fact.

It's a pretty big distinction, but then again... there are people who will do anything they can to discredit this administration.

Senator
03-07-2003, 08:14 PM
baaaaa

CamEdwards
03-07-2003, 08:17 PM
mmmm.. Senator's looking nice and fleecy this evening.

sabotai
03-07-2003, 08:24 PM
Anyone have the sudden urge to take Senator to an edge of a cliff?

Mustang
03-07-2003, 08:31 PM
If he is dead, captured, alive.. not sure.

All I know is that, judging by the sweater he is wearing, he is someplace cold..

Wait.. thats NOT a sweater!

ewwww....

I think I saw that same guy on a discovery channel show.. 'Raising the Mammoth'

Senator
03-07-2003, 08:34 PM
Anyone have the sudden urge to take Senator to an edge of a cliff?


Would you like to explain why my opinion means less than his?

sjshaw
03-07-2003, 08:41 PM
Well, obviously it's because he has more posts than you. :D

sabotai
03-07-2003, 08:43 PM
Or it may be because the joke went right over your head.

(Anyone care to explain...)

Airhog
03-07-2003, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by CamEdwards
None of the articles you cite says Mohammed is anything other than alive. Two of them say authorities are wondering if a dead man is Mohammed. One of them says authorities doubt the body is Mohammed.

NONE of the articles state anything as fact... as opposed to the recent articles stating his capture as fact.

It's a pretty big distinction, but then again... there are people who will do anything they can to discredit this administration.

How do you know they recent articles are fact? because the government and the media say so? I have seen no hard proof provided that he was captured other than what CNN says.

Turth of the matter is, we are fighting a war, and during war the truth is changed to suit the government.

Fritz
03-07-2003, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Airhog
Turth of the matter is, we are fighting a war, and during war the truth is changed to suit the government.

There is a first for everything

CamEdwards
03-07-2003, 09:33 PM
Or it could be that all of the other articles were reporting theories and suppositions, whereas now that he's actually captured, you're seeing sentences like "He was captured in the Pakistani town of blahblahblah", as opposed to sentences like "Authorities aren't sure if one of the bodies is Mohammed."

I think you've been listening to a little too much George Noory.

Why would you be more inclined to believe four month old articles that don't definitively state anything about Mohammed's wherabouts and an opinion piece that came from England's version of The National Enquirer over the very latest articles from the Associated Press, Reuters, and the like that DO definitively state what happened to the man?

Airhog
03-07-2003, 09:53 PM
Im not more inclined to believe that one side is right and the other side is wrong. Im also not inclined to believe that the associated press or reuters is right.

I couldnt find any specific articles that were about him on reuters, just bits in other articles.

And CNN's only source he was captured comes from the US government. Oh, thats right, im supposed to believe whatever the US feeds me :rolleyes:

CamEdwards
03-07-2003, 10:05 PM
It's no use arguing. The black helicopters are already on their way to your home.

Say hi to the lizard people for me. :)

(this is my way of saying we're about to get into a circular argument, so I'd rather just back away.)

Senator
03-07-2003, 10:05 PM
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Airhog
03-07-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by CamEdwards
It's no use arguing. The black helicopters are already on their way to your home.

Say hi to the lizard people for me. :)

(this is my way of saying we're about to get into a circular argument, so I'd rather just back away.)

thanks, actually I almost posted that in my last post, guess I should have :D

Remeber me, if you never see me again on this board. Tell others, dont let the government cover it up. The truth is out there :D

sabotai
03-07-2003, 10:42 PM
Senator,

Here's the joke...

Q: Why do you take a sheep to the edge of a cliff?
A: Because it'll push back.

You made a sound like a sheep so...I said waht I did...

Now that I had to explain it, I'm sure it's not funny. :)

superbama
03-08-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by sabotai
Senator,

Here's the joke...

Q: Why do you take a sheep to the edge of a cliff?
A: Because it'll push back.

You made a sound like a sheep so...I said waht I did...

Now that I had to explain it, I'm sure it's not funny. :)


It was funnier when Senator thought you were a jackass.

Anthony
03-08-2003, 08:44 AM
if we were fed our info from "The Man", as Airhog would want you to believe - there never would have been a Watergate. There never would have been a Clinton/Lewinsky circus and the Iran-Contra affair never would have been unveiled.

you being from Oklahoma City should have better sense Airhog. if the goverment really wanted to, under your thinking, Timothy McVeigh could have been turned into Sheik Abdul or what have you.

just cuz X-Files is no longer on the air, don't take it upon yourself to continue Fox Mulder's legacy. it's cute, but not practical.

sabotai
03-08-2003, 10:18 AM
"It was funnier when Senator thought you were a jackass."

It was. :)

Senator
03-08-2003, 11:46 AM
I blame sleep deprivation and not by obvious lack of sense of humor.

JPhillips
03-08-2003, 02:01 PM
As a friend of mine pointed out, we will be able to prove if it was Ron Jeremy soon enough. If he doesn't show up at the next gang-bang, we will know the government has him.