Scoreboard: +0.2 Odds

Game Format:
> Both teams start in the same location, but after that they part ways.

> Destination categories are pre-selected, so the current locations of each team have no bearing on my choice. Also, all game rulings are final. In other words, no griping!

> When a category is posted (by myself), both teams will post an answer, striving to travel the shortest distance (as the crow flies) to a place that fits the category. The team that selects the closer destination wins that round (gets +1 to their score).

> The round ends when both teams have posted an answer.

> Important: Additionally, a time bonus of +0.1 will be awarded for every ten minutes that one team’s post is ahead of the other team, regardless of who wins the round. Speed is important!

> Ordinarily, the first post by each team will count as their answer. However, if the other team has not yet posted, you may override a previous answer by your team (including your own) by posting OVERRIDE at the top of your answer post. Remember, the later time of the override post will be used to determine the timing bonus, so plan your tactics accordingly.

> No editing of answer posts!

> The first team to get +20 wins the challenge.

> Example of play: Both teams start in St. Louis. WSUCougar posts “a state capital” as the destination category. The Odds post “Jefferson City, MO” at 12:00 p.m., and the Evens post “Springfield, IL” at 12:21 p.m. Springfield is a tad closer, so the Evens get +1, but the Odds get a time bonus of +0.2 to their score. So overall, Evens get +0.8.

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To begin, someone (it doesn’t matter which side, since it applies to both teams) should select the starting location from a city with an NFL franchise.

St. Louis

How creative ardent ;)

Odds Location: St. Louis, MO
Evens Location: St. Louis, MO

Destination category:

A city or town in the state of Kentucky.

Originally posted by WSUCougar
Destination category:

A city or town in the state of Kentucky.

Louisville

Lexington

Paducah

Louisville was closer to St. Louis, so its +1 Evens (no time bonus).

Locations:
Evens: Louisville, KY
Odds: Lexington, KY

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Category:

City or town located on I-95

Richmond, VA

Petersburg, VA

Fredericksburg, VA

Override

Colonial Heights

Originally posted by JeeberD
Override

Colonial Heights

Really? I don't know, the coordinates I found for Colonial Heights looked like they might have been further than Fredericksburg. But maybe you're right, we'll see what Cougar says.

Edit: Of course I guess you were overriding Petersburg...

Actually, I was trying to override Petersburg since we can't editour posts... Hope I didn't screw us...

Hmm, maybe you should override me?

Don't know if it would help or not, with the time penalty.

1) to me you shouldn't be able to change answer

2) Petersburg is on 81 or 64, isn't it?

1. Well, in the rules it doesn't say anywhere that a player can't answer more than once, but I certainly wouldn't object if we did add that rule.

2. Yeah, Petersburg is just off of 95, that's why I was trying to override it...

Regarding the rules, overrides are only valid if the other team has not yet posted. However, you can override yourself.

I've got Petersburg on I-95, so that'll count.

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Lexington to Petersburg (Odds) is closer than Louisville to Richmond (Evens), but the Evens grab a 0.1 time bonus. So that's +1.0 Odds for this round, and a +0.1 Evens lead overall.

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Locations:
Evens: Richmond, VA
Odds: Petersburg, VA

Name a town or city with a name that has more than one word.

Big Stone Gap, VA

Override

Five Forks, VA

Newport News, VA

Cedar Fork, VA

Odds' Petersburg, VA, to Five Forks, VA is closer than Evens' Richmond, VA to Newport News, VA. No time bonus. +1 Odds for the round, +0.9 Odds overall.

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Locations:
Evens: Newport News, VA
Odds: Five Forks, VA

Name a U.S. city or town in the Mountain time zone.

Syracuse, Kansas

Johnson, KS

OVERRIDE

Goodland, KS

(Johnson is on the wrong side of the line)

How are we measuring distance?

Ryche - Glad you corrected your choice!

I'm using a variety of sources, but mainly a net-based, point-to-point distance calculator.

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Odds' Five Forks, VA to Syracuse, KS is closer than Evens' Newport News, VA to Goodland, KS. Odds also get a +0.3 time bonus. +1.3 Odds for the round, +2.2 Odds overall.

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Locations:
Evens: Goodland, KS
Odds: Syracuse, KS

Destination: A city/town with a AAA baseball franchise.

Colorado Springs (Sky Sox)

Colorado Springs.

Can we copy the other team's answer? If not, then Omaha Royals.

Odds' Syracuse, KS to Colorado Springs, CO is closer than Evens' Goodland, KS to Omaha, NE. Odds also get a +0.1 time bonus. +1.1 Odds for the round, +3.3 Odds overall.

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Locations:
Evens: Omaha, NE
Odds: Colorado Springs, CO

Destination: A city or town name that begins and ends with the same letter.

Highlands Ranch, CO

Dola

Sorry, had to plug the town where I graduated high school from. Three time defending girls state basketball champs!!! Go Falcons!

Nevermind. I think it's actually part of Colorado Springs.

Sioux Falls, SD

I'm not sure. Override me if you feel you're right...

OVERRIDE

Eagle, NE

Odds' Colorado Springs, CO to Highlands Ranch, CO is closer than Evens' Omaha, NE to Sioux Falls, SD. Odds also get a +0.1 time bonus. +1.1 Odds for the round, +4.4 Odds overall.

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Locations:
Evens: Sioux Falls, SD
Odds: Highlands Ranch, CO

Destination: Canadian city with an NHL team.

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Originally posted by TredWel
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

OVERRIDE

Winnipeg.

Calgary

Originally posted by Hammer755
OVERRIDE

Winnipeg.

D'oh, forgot that pesky news about them relocating several years ago.

If we can choose the same as the other team, Calgary.

If not, back to Toronto. Sorry guys.

Originally posted by Hammer755
OVERRIDE

Winnipeg.
I'm going to negate your override because the intention was current NHL teams. Sorry for the confusion.

Evens' Sioux Falls, SD to Toronto is closer than Odds' Highlands Ranch, CO to Calgary, so +1.1 Evens with the time bonus and +3.3 Odds overall lead.

Locations:
Evens: Toronto
Odds: Calgary

Destination:

Texas town/city with a Division I football college program.

Originally posted by WSUCougar
Evens' Sioux Falls, SD to Toronto is closer than Odds' Highlands Ranch, CO to Calgary, so +1.1 Evens with the time bonus and +3.3 Odds overall lead.

Destination:

Texas town/city with a Division I football college program.

Denton, TX

Lubbock

Evens' Toronto to Denton, TX is closer than Odds' Calgary to Lubbock, TX. +1 Evens, +2.3 Odds overall. No time bonus, but impressive response time, Hammer!

Locations:
Evens: Denton, TX
Odds: Lubbock, TX

Destination:

A state capital outside of Texas.

Originally posted by WSUCougar
Evens' Toronto to Denton, TX is closer than Odds' Calgary to Lubbock, TX. +1 Evens, +2.3 Odds overall. No time bonus, but impressive response time, Hammer!

Locations:
Evens: Denton, TX
Odds: Lubbock, TX

Destination:

A state capital outside of Texas.

Oklahoma City, OK

Santa Fe, NM

Ummmm.... can't beat that, so I'll say Santa Fe, New Mexico.

Great minds think alike. :D

OVERRIDE

Baton Rouge, LA

OVERRIDE (again)

Little Rock, Arkansas

Had no choice, really.

REMINDER: Overrides can only be used if the other team has not yet posted an answer (unless an answer is incorrect).

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Evens' Denton, TX to Oklahoma City, OK is closer than Odds' Lubbock, TX to Santa Fe, NM. +1.2 Evens, +1.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Oklahoma City, OK
Odds: Santa Fe, NM

Destination:

Town or city with a college football team in Conference USA.

Fort Worth, TX

Fort Worth, TX

Crap

Houston, TX

Originally posted by wade moore
How creative ardent ;)

I couldn't resist. I haven't even played since then.

Evens' Oklahoma City, OK to Fort Worth, TX is closer than Odds' Santa Fe, NM. To Houston, TX. +1.0 Evens, +0.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Fort Worth, TX
Odds: Houston, TX

Destination:

City or town with a Big East football school.

Miami, FL

Blacksburg, VA

No override, stick with Ryche

OVERRIDE

Blacksburg, VA

Rules question, Cougar.

We used Miami, but it was overridden. Can the other team then use Miami, or is it off-limits because it's already been used?

The other team can use Miami, or whatever answer(s) you have not used (i.e., have overidden).

Miami, FL it is then

This was a close one, with some interesting potential strategy involved. Odds' Houston, TX To Miami, FL is closer than Evens' Fort Worth, TX to Blacksburg, VA. +1.0 Odds, +1.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Blacksburg, VA
Odds: Miami, FL

Destination:

A city or town that is NOT located within the original 13 states/colonies (FYI, for purposes of the game, West Virginia is considered a part of Virginia and thus does not qualify).

Knoxville, TN

Ft. Lauderdale, FL

Miami, FL

Override: Jacksonville, FL

Crap, nevermind my override.

Originally posted by Radii
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

What a gimme, you didn't even start in the colonies. :D

Yeah, that ended up being a gimme, but I pre-determine the questions one step ahead, plus the Odds had to know that Florida wasn’t an original colony. :D

Odds' Miami to Fort Lauderdale, FL is closer than Evens' Blacksburg, VA to Knoxville, TN. +1.0 Odds, +2.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Knoxville, TN
Odds: Fort Lauderdale, FL

Destination:

A city or town with the word “City” in it’s name.

Florida City, FL

Johnson City, TN

Odds' Fort Lauderdale to Florida City, FL is closer than Evens' Knoxville to Johnson City, TN. +1.0 Odds, +3.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Johnson City, TN
Odds: Florida City, FL

Destination:

A city or town beginning with the letter “M” in a state beginning with the letter “M”.

Malden, Missouri

Meridian, MS

Grats evens. And it's really a shame this conference call I've had on mute for 2+ hours is ending, this is fun!

Originally posted by Radii
Meridian, MS

Grats evens. And it's really a shame this conference call I've had on mute for 2+ hours is ending, this is fun!

Meridian was my second choice. :D

I'm going to have to go soon also.

Evens' Johnson City, TN to Malden, MO is closer than Odds' Florida City, FL to Meridian, MS. +1.0 Evens, +2.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Malden, MO
Odds: Meridian, MS

Destination:

City that has hosted a Super Bowl.

New Orleans

New Orleans, Louisiana

Atlanta

Odds' Meridian, MS to New Orleans is closer than Evens' Malden, MO to Atlanta. +1.3 Odds, +3.4 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Atlanta, GA
Odds: New Orleans, LA

Destination:

City that has only ONE of the following: an NFL, MLB, NBA, or NHL team.

Jacksonville, FL

Memphis, Tennessee

Bump (hopefully WSU will be coming around soon)

Odds' Atlanta, GA to Memphis, TN is closer than Evens' New Orleans, LA to Jacksonville, FL. +0.5 Odds, +3.9 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Jacksonville, FL
Odds: Memphis, TN

Destination:

City or town with an Ivy League school.

Princeton, NJ

Columbia

good call JeeberD, I forgot about Princeton.

Philadelphia, PA

Evens' Jacksonville, FL to Philadelphia, PA is closer than Odds' Memphis, TN to Princeton, NJ. +0.8 Evens, +3.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Philadelphia, PA
Odds: Princeton, NJ

Destination:

City or town in a state on the Pacific coast. (The destination does not have to be on the coast, just the state).

Ontario, OR

Asotin, WA

Needles, CA

Protest, you got Odds and Evens Atlanta and New Orleans mixed up earlier :)

Originally posted by Ryche
Protest, you got Odds and Evens Atlanta and New Orleans mixed up earlier :)
Damn, so I did. I've edited that post to fix the mix-up, but we've got other problems, since that screws things up royally.

Any suggestions on repairing the damage fairly?

Just ignore the mistake. that is the easiest solution. No one will be overly upset

Aye, ignore it. That way if evens lose, we can lose under protest.

Seriously, not a big deal, this game is way to fun for a geographer.

Originally posted by stkelly52
Just ignore the mistake. that is the easiest solution. No one will be overly upset

I agree...

But start over from there, or just re-count from there?

Just continue from where we are, pretend it never happened.

Originally posted by Ryche
Just continue from where we are, pretend it never happened.

YUP!

Okay, thanks for rolling with it guys. On we go...

Evens' Philadelphia, PA to Asotin, WA is closer (by 27 miles) than Odds' to Princeton, NJ to Ontario, OR. +1.0 Evens, +2.1 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Asotin, WA
Odds: Ontario, OR

Destination:

City or town with a Pac-10 School. :D

Pullman, WA

Eugene, OR

Evens' Asotin, WA to Pullman, WA is closer than Odds' to Ontario, OR to Eugene, OR. +1.3 Evens, +0.8 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Pullman, WA
Odds: Eugene, OR

Destination:

City or town located on the Mississippi River.

Little Falls, MN

Bemidji, MN

Originally posted by WSUCougar
Evens' Asotin, WA to Pullman, WA is closer than Odds' to Ontario, OR to Eugene, OR. +1.3 Evens, +0.8 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: Pullman, WA
Odds: Eugene, OR

Destination:

City or town located on the Mississippi River.

Shouldn't there have been a time bonus to the Evens on that one?

Originally posted by ScottVib
Shouldn't there have been a time bonus to the Evens on that one?

That would be the .3 of the 1.3

What's all this fun stuff? This is brain candy for a guy who has more worthless geography crammed into his head than he knows what to do with. :)

Evens' Pullman, WA to Little Falls, MN is closer than Odds' Eugene, OR to Bemidji, MN. +1.1 Evens, +0.3 Evens overall.

Locations:
Evens: Little Falls, MN
Odds: Bemidji, MN

Destination:

City with a team in the NFC South.

Atlanta, GA

New Orleans, LA

Odds' Bemidji, MN to Atlanta, GA is closer than Evens' Little Falls, MN to New Orleans, LA. +1.0 Odds, +0.7 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: New Orleans, LA
Odds: Atlanta, GA

Destination:

City or town with a Big-10 school.

Bloomington, IN

Lafayette, IN

West Lafayette, Indiana if we're getting picky.

Evens’ New Orleans, LA to West Lafayette, IN is closer than Odds’ Atlanta, GA to Bloomington, IN. +0.5 Evens, +0.2 Odds overall.

Locations:
Evens: West Lafayette, IN
Odds: Bloomington, IN

Destination:

City or town in Alaska

Juneau, AK

Metlakatla

Not to whine or anything, but I don't really see how New Orleans to W Lafayette in shorter than Atlanta to Bloomington. Could you please double check the stats on that one? Thanks...

I'd like to know that too, considering Bloomington is south and a little east of W Lafayette, and New Orleans is over 400 miles SW of Atlanta.

:rolleyes: :o :(

Geez, guys, sorry...I screwed it up again. Double-checking my process I mistakenly selected Bloomington, Minnesota instead of Indiana. Trying to go too fast, I guess.

I have a suggestion. Let's start over with a couple changes in the game. Here are my proposed changes:

(1) I give you the upcoming category one destination ahead of time. In other words, you will choose your current destination knowing what your next category is going to be. This will add a lot more strategy, and will result in less luck and "gimme" answers.

(2) The first team to post gets a 0.2 bonus.

(3) The time bonus is increased to 0.2 per 10 minutes.

(4) Each team gets one override regardless of what the other team does, but you can only override your team's first answer within 10 minutes or the first answer is locked.

Comments? I'd like to hear from a couple Odds and Evens each. We'll pick it up tomorrow depending on the response.

Those rules work for me, I just want the game to keep going :)

Whatever it takes to keep us playing..