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Ksyrup
02-09-2006, 10:39 PM
'Rock Star' auditions announced

By JAM! TV ([email protected])

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Although the producers haven't announced which band, if any, will be featured on the series, the "Rock Star" producers are looking for singers who want to live the rock n' roll lifestyle.

CBS has announced a casting call for the second season of "Rock Star" this summer. Casting will being in March and applications for potential singers can be found at <HTTP: www.cbs.com />CBS.com and <HTTP: rockstar.msn.com>http://rockstar.msn.com.

Open auditions will take place in the following cities on the following dates, with Toronto and Vancouver being the only Canadian stops for the producers.

March 1, 2006 - Austin, Texas

March 3, 2006 - Boston

March 6, 2006 - Atlanta

March 8, 2006 - New York

March 11, 2006 - Chicago

March 13, 2006 - Toronto

March 16, 2006 - Minneapolis, MN

March 18, 2006 - Seattle, WA.

March 21, 2006 - San Francisco.

March 23, 2006 - Vancouver.

March 31, 2006 - Los Angeles

CBS has not revealed whether a notable rock band, like INXS last year, will headline the series or if the format will become similar to "American Idol." It was rumoured that rockers Van Halen would be the focus of the new installment. The band's management has denied all such gossip.

Despite a disappointing debut, "Rock Star INXS" gained a devoted following and ratings grew throughout the summer of 2005 culminating with a season high 7.83 million viewers for the finale in the U.S.

Ksyrup
02-09-2006, 10:54 PM
Rockstar: South Park

http://laxguy.livejournal.com/4480.html

FrogMan
02-10-2006, 09:33 AM
sweet news, I really liked Rock Star: INXS. I also liked the fact that it was a Summer show. Even though Summer isn't a big TV watching period, it's kinda nice to have one series to follow, even though I'll probably record it and watch it later most of the time...

That South Park link was pretty funny too :)

FM

FrogMan
02-10-2006, 09:45 AM
oh, and speaking of INXS, they were part of Super Bowl pregame show somewhere in Canada. They showed them with JD Fortune one a couple of occasions on Global, the network that carried the feed for the Super Bowl (pregame and game) around here...

I only saw them briefly but I did record the whole pregame show. I only have to weed through it to watch it :)

FM

GrantDawg
02-10-2006, 06:26 PM
This was a so much better show than AI. I'm glad it is coming back.

Mac Howard
02-10-2006, 09:12 PM
I'm looking forward to this. I became an addict of the INXS show. Fox8 did a nine hour "summary" show after the series had finished including all the performances. I made a dvd from it including only those performances I really enjoyed - there are 51 songs on it. Suzie's "Bohemian Rhapsody" has become my ten year old daughter's favourite. She says she's going to do that at the next local talent show. I can't wait to see that :)

SegRat
02-13-2006, 03:55 AM
TMZ.com is reporting that VAN HALEN are in the market for a new lead singer, and the marketplace will be the upcoming reality show "Rock Star: The Series".

Last October, VAN HALEN reps vehemently denied the band would use "Rock Star" in a talent search for a new lead singer. The reps are now singing a different tune. VAN HALEN publicist Larry Solters told TMZ.com: "I'm not denying it. I'm not going to answer any questions about it."

Last year, the band INXS used "Rock Star" to find a new lead singer. J.D. Fortune won the competition, and the band is now making a comeback with a hit new album and a sold-out tour.

As for VAN HALEN, the group has had three lead singers since it hit the scene back in 1978: David Lee Roth, who left the band in 1985, Sammy Hagar, who split in 1995, and Gary Cherone, who did just one album and tour with the band in 1998.

The next season of "Rock Star", produced by Mark Burnett for CBS, is scheduled to air during the summer. Neither Burnett nor CBS would comment on the VAN HALEN buzz.

Draft Dodger
02-13-2006, 08:26 AM
I have suffered through so many indignities as a VH fan. enduring all of the ridiculous mudslinging when Roth left, hearing all the "Van Hagar" jokes, having the brothers pompously boot Sammy Hagar, the Roth reunion that never happened, VHIII, seeing Roth turn into a lousy caricature of himself and seeing Eddie become an idiotic drunk, and the miserable BoBW greatest hits that featured some crappy new material and engineering gaffes on some old material, not to mention a terribly disfunctional and overpriced tour. and then, somehow, "Jump" appears with all the disco music at the Opening Ceremonies in Turino, and I'm about at my boiling point.

Van Halen on Rockstar would push me over the edge

Ksyrup
02-13-2006, 08:33 AM
Awesome! There would be nothing better than a pissed off Eddie lashing out at some 22 year old wannabe from Arkansas. And then having Sammy show up unannounced at one of the tapings. Good times guaranteed for all.

I hope DLR still has his radio show by the time this airs, because Eddie might completely flip if he has to listen to DLR's comments about the show. One can only hope.

Ksyrup
02-13-2006, 08:34 AM
Dola.

Notwithstanding my comments above, you have my sympathies, DD.

FrogMan
02-28-2006, 11:01 AM
bump,

fwiw, they are running ads on TV during Survivor around here regarding the Canadian audition dates with the "Rockstar: The Series" logo and all...

FM

Joe
02-28-2006, 05:58 PM
will Brooke Burke be back?

Mac Howard
03-03-2006, 07:52 PM
Interesting site here with links to articles about Rock Star:

hxxp://www.sirlinksalot.net/rockstarinxs.html

The latest article, dated 1st March, says that they will be announcing the band in the coming week and that auditions will begin on the 9th March.

Ksyrup
03-03-2006, 08:44 PM
Thanks for the update.

SegRat
03-10-2006, 01:53 AM
TOMMY LEE Is The Next 'Rock Star' - Mar. 10, 2006

According to MelodicRock.com, MÖTLEY CRÜE drummer Tommy Lee has been in negotiations with the producers of the "Rock Star" show for the last few weeks to take on a star role in the revamped show format. The house band will be retained, with Tommy Lee taking the place of INXS searching for his next "Rock Star" lead vocalist. The winner will front Lee's next studio album and a tour (timing to be determined).

Rumors over who would front the show following INXS' 2005 role have been widespread since the first season finale. After a suitable band could not be found, it was originally decided to gather a group of name musicians and search for a singer for a brand new band — until Lee stepped in, that is. An official announcement is expected within a day or two, but Lee gave this hint away as recently as this week in an interview with the Richmond Times-Dispatch:

Q: Any chance of another season of "Tommy Lee Goes to College" or are your academic days over?

Tommy Lee: "In about two days you're gonna hear a statement about something new. I'm looking at the press release right now, but I can't tell you what it is."

Q: Is it an NBC press release?

Tommy Lee: "No, a different network."

Q: But we'll be seeing you back on TV?

Tommy Lee: "Absolutely."

FrogMan
03-10-2006, 07:08 AM
Dang, SegRat living in the middle of the night ;) was gonna report about that...

Could be interesting...

FM

Ksyrup
03-10-2006, 08:11 AM
I heard an announcement was coming within the next week or so. This is blech, frankly. But much like AI, I'm more interested in the show than the result, so I'll be anxiously awaiting this over the summer.

Ryche
03-10-2006, 08:17 AM
This actually makes a lot of sense and is probably better than dragging some other band that has been washed up for 10 years. I thought after the first Rockstar there was a good chance Tommy Lee would grab one of the singers for a band. Can't wait.

FrogMan
03-10-2006, 08:20 AM
people on the radio around here talked about the possibility or getting a superband together, get a singer via Rockstar, record one CD, tour a little then everybody goes their merry way. Tommy Lee, Dave Navarro, who else could jump in? :)

FM

Ksyrup
03-10-2006, 09:00 AM
Kip Winger on bass! Desmond Child and Aldo Nova as the songwriting duo!! The possibilities are endless for an overrated, wife-beating, huge shlonged, washed-up drummer from an 80s hair metal band!!!

I'm not much of a fan of the guy. But the show should still be good.

Ryche
03-10-2006, 09:09 AM
Doh, Navarro was on the first Rockstar...always get him and Tommy Lee confused for some reason. But yeah, put those two together and let them find a lead singer.

FrogMan
03-16-2006, 11:39 AM
a coworker just forwarded me this:
According to Variety.com (http://www.variety.com/), MÖTLEY CRÜE drummer Tommy Lee, along with bassist Jason Newsted (VOIVOD, ex-METALLICA) and Gilby Clarke (ex-GUNS N' ROSES), are forming a new band called SUPERNOVA and will use the "Rock Star" TV program to search for a lead singer. In addition, "Rock Star" has signed songwriter-performer Butch Walker to produce SUPERNOVA's first album, to be released just before the new band hits the road in 2007. Walker, named Rolling Stone's 2005 "hot" producer, has written or produced tracks for AVRIL LAVIGNE, PINK, BOWLING FOR SOUP and TOMMY LEE.

Dave Navarro and Brooke Burke will return as hosts. Each weekly episode, which will air on CBS-TV, will also now feature guest appearances by celebs or rockers.

"Friends of mine, like Slash, Macy Gray, Moby and Rob Zombie, will join us and throw in their two cents about who should stay and who should go," Navarro said.

Lee released his third solo album two years ago and starred in NBC's "Tommy Lee Goes to College" last year.

Newsted left METALLICA in 2003, forming the band ECHOBRAIN and performing for technothrash band VOIVOD. Clarke has worked with various artists since GN'R split, including Michael Jackson and Lenny Kravitz.

Burnett, David Goffin, Lisa Hennessy, Navarro, Lee and Carl Stubner will exec produce the second season of "Rock Star". Conrad Riggs and Eden Gaha are co-exec producers.


and from mtv.com:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1526244/20060316/lee_tommy.jhtml?headlines=true&rsspartner=rssYahooNewscrawler
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03.16.2006 10:40 AM EST

Former Guns N' Roses guitarist Gilby Clarke is also on board for newly formed Supernova.
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Over the last few weeks, hundreds of undiscovered singers have been blindly auditioning for the second season of CBS' "Rock Star," not knowing which band they'd be asked to front should they follow in J.D. Fortune's footsteps and walk away from the
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reality television experiment victorious.

The producers behind "Rock Star" have now revealed that they've recruited three big names to form a rock supergroup, musicians who will leave it up to America to find the band's voice.

Mötley Crüe kitman Tommy Lee, former Metallica bassist and current Voivod member Jason Newsted, and onetime Guns N' Roses axeman Gilby Clarke will be banding together as Supernova, utilizing the Mark Burnett-produced "Rock Star" to secure a lead singer.

The show's first season featured the surviving members of INXS. Fortune was picked to replace the late Michael Hutchence, and the revived outfit released Switch in November (see "INXS Insist Finding J.D. Was An 'Organic' Process, Think 'Angels Got Together' " (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1510527/09282005/inxs.jhtml)). To date, the album has sold close to 308,000 copies.

Burnett's team has enlisted songwriter Butch Walker to produce the inaugural Supernova offering, which will be released in 2007, in conjunction with a full U.S. tour. Walker has produced and written tunes for the likes of Avril Lavigne, Pink, Bowling for Soup, Sevendust and Lindsay Lohan. He also worked with Lee on his 2005 solo release, Tommyland: The Ride.

Dave Navarro and Brooke Burke are set to return as the show's hosts. Each week, "Rock Star" will feature guest appearances by notable musicians and other celebrities. "Friends of mine, like Slash, Macy Gray, Moby and Rob Zombie, will join us and throw in their two cents about who should stay and who should go," Navarro told Variety.

Lee remains an active Crüe member, and Newsted — who left Metallica five years ago — is preparing for the spring launch of Katorz, the first Voivod album in the band's 20-plus-year career recorded without founding guitarist Denis "Piggy" D'Amour, who succumbed to colon cancer back in late August (see "Voivod Guitarist Denis 'Piggy' D'Amour Dies Of Cancer At 45 " (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1508516/08282005/voivod.jhtml)). Clarke's résumé includes his three-year tenure as the rhythm guitarist for GN'R, and a brief stint with L.A. Guns. He also played with the reformed MC5 on their 2005 European tour.

Alice in Chains drummer Sean Kinney told MTV News last month that the band had been approached by the producers of "Rock Star" for the second season, but that they turned the offer down (see "Remaining Alice In Chains Members Reuniting For Summer Gigs " (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1524813/02232006/alice_in_chains.jhtml)). The surviving members of that group — Kinney, bassist Mike Inez, and guitarist Jerry Cantrell — have reunited, and are planning a brief run of U.S. clubs this May. Alice in Chains are in the process of auditioning singers who'll be asked to step into the late Layne Staley's shoes for the group's imminent touring and recording plans.

With Supernova in place for the talent contest, the "Rock Star" camp could end up running into some legal trouble down the line over the supergroup's name. Back in the early 1990s, a poppy punk trio called Supernova emerged from California's Orange County. The band, which released its first album on Atlantic Records in 1995, is perhaps best known for the track "Chewbacca," which appeared on the soundtrack to Kevin Smith's "Clerks." </OPARAM></DROPLET>

— Chris Harris


Slash in the mix, interesting...

FM

Ksyrup
03-16-2006, 11:44 AM
Cool. Thanks for the info. Butch Walker kicks ass.

Maple Leafs
03-16-2006, 11:54 AM
It would be awesome if Axl Rose entered and won.

(In all seriousness, am I a loser if I think Tommy Lee's solo stuff is pretty good and his Methods of Mayhems stuff is freaking sweet?)

Swaggs
03-16-2006, 12:01 PM
This could end up producing a more interesting end result, actually.

I hope Tommy Lee doesn't get too starved for attention during the show, though. I could see that getting annoying.

SegRat
03-16-2006, 12:47 PM
Methods of Mayhems rocked!

sabotai
03-16-2006, 03:37 PM
Methods of Mayhem was one band that kind of fell off my radar. I did hear one or two songs from them (or a few "various artists" CDs) and I think I liked their stuff...

I also really liked the show Tommy Lee Goes To College.

Joe
03-16-2006, 06:55 PM
Well thats kind of dumb. They should just get Butch Walker to sing. Although I would love for him to get back with Marvelous 3.

bbor
03-16-2006, 08:45 PM
Looking forward to this one.

Ksyrup
03-20-2006, 09:15 AM
Some additional info:

"There will be a few minor tweaks to the format this season, including expanding the number of contestants from 15 to 16, and--as Burnett told Toronto's London Free Press Monday--inviting back some of the first season finalists to compete a second time around (word has it, Toronto native and fourth-place finisher, Suzie McNeil, has already been asked to return)."

GrantDawg
03-20-2006, 10:52 AM
Who-hoo! More Suzy!

SegRat
03-20-2006, 12:41 PM
Suzy asked to come back? I bet Tommy is going to hit that.

Mac Howard
05-07-2006, 11:55 PM
My program guide tells me that for the next two Saturdays Fox are running two "Road to Rock Star" specials of the auditions for the new program. Is this just in Australia?

21C
05-08-2006, 03:46 AM
I think it is. I saw something that said it had the Australians trying out for the show at the auditions.

Quick search found this:
hxxp://www.c21media.net/features/detail.asp?area=74&article=29426

Mac Howard
07-04-2006, 10:05 AM
I've just seen an advert on Fox tv that they're airing the first show at 6 pm tomorrow night - that's July 5th. It seems to be the show with the contestants settling into the rock mansion. I can't believe that they'll show it here before the states so that would suggest you'll get it today (July 4th) sometime. Check your tv schedules.

FrogMan
07-04-2006, 10:11 AM
yeah, I wanted to post the headsup when I saw the ads last week, they were talking about a premiere this week. Just checked and it should be on at 8pm eastern tomorrow, with a repeat on Thursday. Thanks for the headsup Mac...

FM

Mac Howard
07-04-2006, 10:25 AM
yeah, I wanted to post the headsup when I saw the ads last week, they were talking about a premiere this week. Just checked and it should be on at 8pm eastern tomorrow, with a repeat on Thursday. Thanks for the headsup Mac...

FM

I've just been running through the schedule for the next week and there's a lot coming up.

Tomorrow's show is just a half hour - see the contestants and mansion. On Thursday - the 6th - there's a one and a half hour show with the first music. My guess is that's a repeat of the first half hour show and the first one hour music show.

On Sunday they have THREE shows totalling two and a three quarter hours including the first elimination. Again, reading between the lines, that will be a repeat of the first half hour, the second hour of the second show and a three quarter hour elimination.

If nothing else the time given over to the show indicates how successful the last series was.

Just in time to fill the gap between the World Cup and the start of the new Premiership season :)

And just a comment to those who might read this and didn't see last year's series: this is not American Idol. Last year's INXS show was the best music show I've seen on tv in years. It turned me into a teenager again :)

If you're into rock then give it a try. I doubt you'll be disappointed.

GrantDawg
07-04-2006, 11:32 AM
Here's what I wonder...what are they singing in the elimination section? Last year it was INXS songs, but this year they don't have band created music to perform. That's the part I'm going to miss from last year, because INXS has some great songs. My guess is they'll hold some old rock favorites for the elimination.

And who wants to make a pool on what episode someone is going to pull out "Bohemian Rhapsody?" I think it'll show up the second the singers have a choice.

Joe
07-04-2006, 12:17 PM
Here's what I wonder...what are they singing in the elimination section? Last year it was INXS songs, but this year they don't have band created music to perform. That's the part I'm going to miss from last year, because INXS has some great songs. My guess is they'll hold some old rock favorites for the elimination.

And who wants to make a pool on what episode someone is going to pull out "Bohemian Rhapsody?" I think it'll show up the second the singers have a choice.

They should have them sing songs from the band members previous bands. So make it either Metallica, Motley Crue, or Guns N Roses.

Joe
07-04-2006, 12:18 PM
I've just seen an advert on Fox tv that they're airing the first show at 6 pm tomorrow night - that's July 5th. It seems to be the show with the contestants settling into the rock mansion. I can't believe that they'll show it here before the states so that would suggest you'll get it today (July 4th) sometime. Check your tv schedules.

It's on FOX this year??

GrantDawg
07-04-2006, 12:25 PM
They should have them sing songs from the band members previous bands. So make it either Metallica, Motley Crue, or Guns N Roses.


That'd work.

FrogMan
07-04-2006, 12:30 PM
It's on FOX this year??

maybe in Australia but it's showing up on CBS on my schedule. Granted I'm in Quebec, but hey, I'm not that far away from the US ;)

FM

Joe
07-04-2006, 12:32 PM
maybe in Australia but it's showing up on CBS on my schedule. Granted I'm in Quebec, but hey, I'm not that far away from the US ;)

FM


Ahh yes. CBS.com is showing it on tomorrow at 8 PM EST for 1.5 hours.

JeeberD
07-05-2006, 10:06 AM
They should have them sing songs from the band members previous bands. So make it either Metallica, Motley Crue, or Guns N Roses.

I'm doubting that Metallica would give authorization for that...

FrogMan
07-05-2006, 10:15 AM
I'm doubting that Metallica would give authorization for that...

especially since Newstead is now with Voivod and has been off from Metallica for quite a while now...

FM

GrantDawg
07-05-2006, 12:16 PM
I'm doubting that Metallica would give authorization for that...


That's not really a problem. Metallica's music is really not the best for this type of competition anyway. Little too much yelling.

Ryche
07-05-2006, 09:04 PM
No comments yet?

Zayra was definitely the worst as far as I'm concerned. She butched Evanescence's song. Chris was pretty bad too and considering he's the only one that got ripped by the band, he probably goes away tomorrow.

I was probably most impressed with Toby's performance, good strong clean vocals. Intrigued by Dilana as well, I want to see more of her. Dana might have the best voice of the group, but she might be more appropriate for American Idol. She could blow McPhee away as far as I'm concerned.

Joe
07-05-2006, 09:15 PM
I liked Lukas and am hoping he wins.

FrogMan
07-05-2006, 10:13 PM
some early favorites to be sent home early for me:
Magni, the Ed Kowalczyk clone from Iceland, they already kind ripped him
Phil, the tall guy who had no presence on stage
Chris, the dude who absolutely butchered Roxanne, that was a painful one
the lady (forgetting her name at the moment) who just couldn't sing the Nickelback song, hearing her try to get a bit louder in the middle of the song was also very painful

I dind't like Lukas so much, the guy was just yelling at times and talking in the mike at other times. Yes, he is a performer, gotta give him that.

Zayra, well, I didn't think she was the worst, but she definitely wasn't in the best.

I liked a couple who went acoustic, like the surfer dude and the guy who did the Black Crowes song. Felt that both had great voices, now they'll need to show they can rock too. The Black Crowes guy also looked a bit too Imerican Idolish, rest to see if he can rock too, as I said.

Another who looked a bit too American Idolish is the pretty young thing from Georgia. Great voice, but just too clean to be with these guys. She reminded me of Jessica from the first season.

There were a few hot ones among the females, didn't you think?

Dilana who did Lithium wasn't one of the hot one though, more like the freak of nature, but she was able to rock with her crazy jumping routine. That could get old quick though, at least to me...

I forget a few that didn't jump out at me and I didn't take time to memorize the names yet ;)

FM

FrogMan
07-05-2006, 10:14 PM
dola, and another to send home soon is the guy who did the Cold Play song, but that may be due to my unliking of Cold Play in itself ;)

FM

JonInMiddleGA
07-06-2006, 01:49 PM
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman/publish/article_5809.asp

New band, same story for CBS’s summer reality series “Rock Star: Supernova.” The program showed no improvement over last year in its second-season debut last night. In fact, it was down slightly despite adding tabloid staple Tommy Lee to the cast.

“Supernova” averaged a 2.2 adults 18-49 overnight rating over 90 minutes, down 8 percent from last summer’s 2.4 for its 60-minute premiere.

In its first hour, its 2.1 rating tied with NBC’s rerun of “America’s Got Talent” for second in the 8 p.m. timeslot, well behind leader “So You Think You Can Dance” on Fox.

In its final half hour the show perked up to a 2.4 but was still more than a point in back of “Dance” and a fresh “Talent.”

The puzzler may well be why CBS brought the “Rock Star” franchise back after last year’s show, which searched for a new lead singer for INXS. Though the show averaged a so-so 2.8 last summer, it was never a big hit. Last night “Supernova” fared slightly better among the adults 25-54 that CBS dominates, averaging a 2.5, but it was still third in its timeslot.

FrogMan
07-06-2006, 01:54 PM
party pooper :p

Seriously, they say it averaged 2.8 last Summer, but I felt it picked up over the later part of the season. Could it be that CBS saw something interesting at the end that wasn't there at the beginning of the season? Like very bad ratings early on but they got better and better as the season went on. Just an idea...

FM

Ksyrup
07-06-2006, 01:56 PM
I would have watched if I wasn't knee-deep in moving my family, closing on a house, working, and studying for the Bar. I saw the last 20 seconds of the last singer, who was terrible, and the recap. Out of the clips i saw, only about 6 seemed passable.

JonInMiddleGA
07-06-2006, 02:08 PM
Seriously, they say it averaged 2.8 last Summer, but I felt it picked up over the later part of the season. Could it be that CBS saw something interesting at the end that wasn't there at the beginning of the season? Like very bad ratings early on but they got better and better as the season went on.

I haven't found anything that spelled out the range of ratings specifically, but looking at a dozen or so individual hours/weeks, it looks the show peaked at a 3.1 for one of the episodes near the end. I think, however, the finale was the highest rated episode of the series & I didn't see that number in any of the old stories I skimmed.

I think the problem, ratings-wise, is that the show simply doesn't have a broad enough appeal. And that's compounded by the likeliest demographics being too different than the rest of the network lineup, meaning that the promos for Rockstar during the week really don't pull in viewers like the network would hope.

It just seems to me to be something that would be better suited for VH1 than
CBS, more akin to Supergroup in its appeal than Idol.

FrogMan
07-06-2006, 02:14 PM
I haven't found anything that spelled out the range of ratings specifically, but looking at a dozen or so individual hours/weeks, it looks the show peaked at a 3.1 for one of the episodes near the end. I think, however, the finale was the highest rated episode of the series & I didn't see that number in any of the old stories I skimmed.

I think the problem, ratings-wise, is that the show simply doesn't have a broad enough appeal. And that's compounded by the likeliest demographics being too different than the rest of the network lineup, meaning that the promos for Rockstar during the week really don't pull in viewers like the network would hope.

It just seems to me to be something that would be better suited for VH1 than
CBS, more akin to Supergroup in its appeal than Idol.

fair enough, I agree that the finale might have been the highest rated and maybe was the last impression that saved the show in the eyes of the CBS execs.

I also agree with the show not pulling ratings from promo. Maybe it'll start picking up steam as people realize it's on and it may build from that starting 2.2 rating to something half decent in a few weeks when they having only good performances, or at least mostly on the same level.

For one, I'm glad it's on CBS as we don't get VH1. We'd probably get the show from MuchMoreMusic some 3 or 4 months later, but it wouldn't be as fun as watching it live...

FM

Ryche
07-06-2006, 04:18 PM
I think it picked up momentum and viewers last season as it progressed. I know I didn't start watching it until a few weeks in. It's one of the few shows I'll make a point of watching this summer.

Not sure yet how the talent compares to last year, but I think there are a few performers on there who could really grow into it like Marty and Suzie did last season.

Mac Howard
07-06-2006, 09:06 PM
It's on FOX this year??

The satellite system here (Australia) is run by Fox - called Foxtel - and Fox8 is the channel the show's on. The show isn't on free-to-air tv here.

Looks like it's going to be much heavier than last year which I think links in with the group. INXS was never heavy metal but these guys are. The girl who sang Lithium made Marty look like Pat Boone :)

The early voting got it about right and I think it will stay that way.

Whoa! My mood for the day just changed for the worse. I just went to the pdr to remind me of who sang what and discovered that it's lost the recording. I had intended to make a dvd for a friend. So, from my somewhat deficient memory: Chris was awful, the Icelandic guy doesn't have the necessary spontaneity and Phil simply didn't seem to have the personality to go with the song. I remember Ty opening up with the same song last year and doing it so much better. I don't think any of those three will last long unless they show something that we simply didn't see last night. Sorry if I got that wrong.

FrogMan
07-07-2006, 07:37 AM
Duran fucking DURAN!?!?! I mean, come on dude, did you even want to stay on the show?

Was quite surprised to see that the girl who butched the Nickelback song was not even in the bottom three at any time during the voting period. I mean, to my untrained ear, she just slaughtered it with a dull knife...

FM

ISiddiqui
07-07-2006, 07:44 AM
Though, even though he was gone as soon as he said what song he was going to sing (no matter how well he did it), he really did a great job with the Duran Duran song.

Ryche
07-07-2006, 08:30 AM
Agreed, he did that song pretty well, probably better than either of the other guys. But he was one of those you look at and say there was no way in hell he could be lead singer for those guys.

Still think Zayra should have been in the bottom 3, but I want to see if that was just a fluke bad performance for her. And I'm partial toward female singers anyway.

Mac Howard
07-07-2006, 11:18 PM
Have you guys had the elimination already?

NoSkillz
07-07-2006, 11:33 PM
Have you guys had the elimination already?

Yeah the first elimination was last night (Thursday).

Mac Howard
07-08-2006, 12:39 AM
Yeah the first elimination was last night (Thursday).
:(

GrantDawg
07-08-2006, 01:15 PM
Though, even though he was gone as soon as he said what song he was going to sing (no matter how well he did it), he really did a great job with the Duran Duran song.


Agreed. He was much better than the other two, but he really just did himself in by not listening to what they asked him to do.

Mac Howard
07-10-2006, 11:21 PM
Agreed. He was much better than the other two, but he really just did himself in by not listening to what they asked him to do.

Shots of Supernova during this song showed that they had completely switched off and heard nothing of his performance. Neither Phil nor Chris sung well but the song selection alone took them through. Unless they pick up their game quickly both of them are gone soon. Marty would have walked it in the first series with these guys.

I'm still puzzled, guys, by the timing of these shows here (so as to avoid hearing the results before seeing the elimination). When is the first show this week? It's in about 6 hours time here - 6.30 Tuesday (but we are 12-16 hours ahead of the USA). The elimination is 6.30 Thursday evening (around midnight Wednesday to early morning Thursday for you).

Joe
07-11-2006, 05:17 AM
Shots of Supernova during this song showed that they had completely switched off and heard nothing of his performance. Neither Phil nor Chris sung well but the song selection alone took them through. Unless they pick up their game quickly both of them are gone soon. Marty would have walked it in the first series with these guys.

I'm still puzzled, guys, by the timing of these shows here (so as to avoid hearing the results before seeing the elimination). When is the first show this week? It's in about 6 hours time here - 6.30 Tuesday (but we are 12-16 hours ahead of the USA). The elimination is 6.30 Thursday evening (around midnight Wednesday to early morning Thursday for you).

First show this week is in a little under 14 hours here.

FrogMan
07-11-2006, 07:09 AM
Schedule for this week, and I'd assume from now on, is performances on Tuesday night (tonight at 9pm eastern, for the record, it's 8:05am eastern as I type this post) and the elimination show is tomorrow, wednesday night at 8 pm eastern.

We had a half hour show last night on Global, the canadian channel who's got the rights. I'd assume it was the equivalent as the 30 minute show they used to have on VH1 since I've not seen that show on CBS around here... I have recorded it and will watch it before I watch the performance show tonight...

FM

Mac Howard
07-11-2006, 05:13 PM
I see. You're not seeing the pre-performance show at the mansion, just the performance and elimination on Tuesday and Wednesday? We get a half hour of rehearsal and mansion on Tuesday, the performance on Wednesday and the elimination on Thursday. That makes sense. I can't see them showing the elimination in Oz 15 hours or so before the US. It would destroy the voting.

But that does mean I should avoid this thread on Thursday :)

So, from the rehearsal, watch out for the girl's performance that sang Lithium and gave the encore. At rehearsal one member of the backing group said "She'll either get zero votes or every vote that's cast" :) She's singing Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire" "sensitively". And the girl who botched up in the spontaneous singing right at the start sings The Kinks "You've Got Me Going" and she was awful! The keyboard player commented "Supernova will crucify her". And Chris is becoming more obnoxious by the hour. He still thinks he the greatest singer but simply can't hold a tune.

Eaglesfan27
07-11-2006, 06:37 PM
I never watched last season, but I watched the first two episodes this season and am looking forward to tonight's episode. We really like that one intense woman.

sabotai
07-11-2006, 06:42 PM
I don't think they air the "reality episode" for us. You can watch it on their website, though (http://rockstar.msn.com/)

FrogMan
07-11-2006, 06:52 PM
I see. You're not seeing the pre-performance show at the mansion, just the performance and elimination on Tuesday and Wednesday? We get a half hour of rehearsal and mansion on Tuesday, the performance on Wednesday and the elimination on Thursday. That makes sense. I can't see them showing the elimination in Oz 15 hours or so before the US. It would destroy the voting.

But that does mean I should avoid this thread on Thursday :)

So, from the rehearsal, watch out for the girl's performance that sang Lithium and gave the encore. At rehearsal one member of the backing group said "She'll either get zero votes or every vote that's cast" :) She's singing Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire" "sensitively". And the girl who botched up in the spontaneous singing right at the start sings The Kinks "You've Got Me Going" and she was awful! The keyboard player commented "Supernova will crucify her". And Chris is becoming more obnoxious by the hour. He still thinks he the greatest singer but simply can't hold a tune.

As I said, I recorded a half horu show that I think might be that rehearsal show you're talking about. I will watch it tonight before the performance show.

FM

thealmighty
07-11-2006, 11:09 PM
I can't sign worth a crap but I didn't like hardly any of them.

jbmagic
07-11-2006, 11:20 PM
I can't sign worth a crap but I didn't like hardly any of them.


Then try singing instead. :)

sabotai
07-11-2006, 11:46 PM
BURN!!!

Mac Howard
07-11-2006, 11:52 PM
I can't sign worth a crap but I didn't like hardly any of them.

There's certainly one or two there that shouldn't be but I wouldn't write them all off just yet. I liked Josh but I hope he doesn't make the same mistake as Ty did with INXS and try to take them down a soul road. It won't wash with these guys and I wouldn't mind seeing more of Josh - and Jill for that matter but nothing to do with her singing :)

I watched last week's three programs again with my 11 year old daughter Georgie. School holidays began this week and I have her for today. To my amazement she picked Matt for elimination immediately following his performance. I hadn't picked him until his Duran Duran thing but she had him fingered right away. My reputation as resident rock expert took a knock there :rolleyes:

Ryche
07-12-2006, 12:18 AM
I don't think there's much doubt that Zayra goes tomorrow. I would have kicked her after last week, but to admit you don't even know your perspective bandmates music is just the ultimate sin.

Right now I'm almost certain that Toby and Dilana will be in the finals.

sabotai
07-12-2006, 12:36 AM
I don't have their names straight so I can't say who this was...

But it was hilarious seeing Nevarro destroy the chick who did the Hole song.

(paraphrasing)
*she sings Violet by Hole wearing a white wedding dress and holding flowers*
"The Courtney Love impression was a bit uncomfortable."
"This is MY interpretation"
"Well, if you look at the CD Love is wearing a dress and holding flowers."
*she stands there speechless, almost ready to cry*

Way to shoot yourself there, idiot.

And then one of the chicks later said something like "I HEARD of your music....I was in diapers when you released your stuff." Yeah, she's not going to last long...

thealmighty
07-12-2006, 12:49 AM
BURN!!!

I didn't get it.

FrogMan
07-12-2006, 07:27 AM
I don't have their names straight so I can't say who this was...

But it was hilarious seeing Nevarro destroy the chick who did the Hole song.

(paraphrasing)
*she sings Violet by Hole wearing a white wedding dress and holding flowers*
"The Courtney Love impression was a bit uncomfortable."
"This is MY interpretation"
"Well, if you look at the CD Love is wearing a dress and holding flowers."
*she stands there speechless, almost ready to cry*

Way to shoot yourself there, idiot.

And then one of the chicks later said something like "I HEARD of your music....I was in diapers when you released your stuff." Yeah, she's not going to last long...

these were two very funny moments, especially watching Jill (the Courtney Love impersonator) stand next to Brooke Burke as she looked like the only thing she wanted to do was cry.

Zayra destroying "You really got me" was a "Roxanne" moment in itself. I couldn't believe it when she gave her song to Jill and said something like "either way, I'm screwed, I don't know the other song at all either". I mean, who's never heard of "You really got me"??? Yeah, I know she's from Puerto Rico, but daaaamn.

FM

FrogMan
07-12-2006, 07:31 AM
There's certainly one or two there that shouldn't be but I wouldn't write them all off just yet. I liked Josh but I hope he doesn't make the same mistake as Ty did with INXS and try to take them down a soul road. It won't wash with these guys and I wouldn't mind seeing more of Josh - and Jill for that matter but nothing to do with her singing :)


I think Josh made his first mistake this week by picking that Creed song. There we had Brooke Burke saying that "tonight, he's picked a song that rocks" and there we got "With Arms wide open", wow... After last week's Black Crowes song, I hoped he'd rock the house real good this week but no, he picked another American Idolish kind of song. He won't fit with the band.

On the other hand, Toby the surfer dude was another I felt had to rock this week, after his good rendering of "Knocking on Heaven's Door" last week and rock he did. The guy's got a great voice, not one moment of screaming in the song. IMO, he'll go a long way...

FM

Bee
07-12-2006, 08:25 AM
Who's the blonde guy from Australia that performed at the end of the show? He was the only one I saw that seemed to have much talent.

FrogMan
07-12-2006, 08:29 AM
that'd be Toby, dubbed the surfer dude by me...

FM

Bee
07-12-2006, 08:44 AM
that'd be Toby, dubbed the surfer dude by me...

FM

I thought that might be the case. :D

sabotai
07-12-2006, 01:50 PM
Zayra destroying "You really got me" was a "Roxanne" moment in itself. I couldn't believe it when she gave her song to Jill and said something like "either way, I'm screwed, I don't know the other song at all either". I mean, who's never heard of "You really got me"??? Yeah, I know she's from Puerto Rico, but daaaamn.

That's the chick who sung the Evanescence song in the first show (I think). That should be pretty much all you need to know to understand how much she doesn't know about rock music. That's as bad as starting off with a Avril Lavigne song ("I'm punk! Who are the Ramones?")

FrogMan
07-12-2006, 01:54 PM
That's the chick who sung the Evanescence song in the first show (I think). That should be pretty much all you need to know to understand how much she doesn't know about rock music. That's as bad as starting off with a Avril Lavigne song ("I'm punk! Who are the Ramones?")

Oh, I know she destroyed Evanescence, but felt it was more a lack of talent than anything else. Now, she's just showing she lacks a lot of everything else, and I won't mention her evident lack of boobies. :D

I thought my wife had a good comparison when she told me Zayra reminded her of Celine Dion. :)

FM

Ryche
07-12-2006, 01:56 PM
Someone has to sing each of those songs. To be fair, she should have been able to rock with the Evanescence song the first week, but she butchered it horribly.

Ajaxab
07-12-2006, 03:04 PM
Anyone else get a sense that Supernova know what they don't want, but don't really know what they do want? IMO, it seems they're looking for some intangible they either can't articulate or flat out just don't know.

FrogMan
07-12-2006, 03:09 PM
Anyone else get a sense that Supernova know what they don't want, but don't really know what they do want? IMO, it seems they're looking for some intangible they either can't articulate or flat out just don't know.

agreed but we're also very early in the process. It's always easier when you hear something that really sucks to say "nah, will never make it for you" than when you hear a couple that are good and decided which one will be good in every aspects you are looking for...

FM

Ajaxab
07-12-2006, 05:25 PM
agreed but we're also very early in the process. It's always easier when you hear something that really sucks to say "nah, will never make it for you" than when you hear a couple that are good and decided which one will be good in every aspects you are looking for...

FM

I agree with you on this, but that being said, I always felt like INXS had a pretty solid idea of what they were looking for. Supernova strikes me as a bit directionless with their comments.

Eaglesfan27
07-12-2006, 06:07 PM
I don't think there's much doubt that Zayra goes tomorrow. I would have kicked her after last week, but to admit you don't even know your perspective bandmates music is just the ultimate sin.

Right now I'm almost certain that Toby and Dilana will be in the finals.

Toby and Dilana would be our pick as well. Dilana is our favorite. We like what she has done both of the first two weeks.

MJ4H
07-12-2006, 06:40 PM
OK I've never seen this show at all and just noticed it is about to come on in 20 minutes. What type of show am I about to watch? Is it an elimination episode? Will there be performances? Get me psyched here.

FrogMan
07-12-2006, 06:56 PM
OK I've never seen this show at all and just noticed it is about to come on in 20 minutes. What type of show am I about to watch? Is it an elimination episode? Will there be performances? Get me psyched here.

tonight is the elimination show. The performance show is on Tuesday and everybody performed a song they had to pick form a board of songs that had exactly same number of available songs as there are contestants left, so it was a game of negotiation to see who would get what.

Votes opened once the show ended last night and people can vote by phone. Tonight, the bottom three vote getters will be announced and they will face elimination. If it goes like last week, each of the three will be asked to perform a song of their choice and the band, namely Supernova, will kick one of the three out. I say "if it goes like last week" because last season, with INXS, they had to perform an INXS song that was picked by the band and I'm not sure if the song selecton will not go back to the band as the competition progresses...

FM

MJ4H
07-12-2006, 07:06 PM
Thanks for the summary, FrogMan. I appreciate your time.

MJ4H
07-12-2006, 07:28 PM
OK most of what I have heard on this show so far has been nonsense but this girl that just sang (note: not screamed like everyone else has so far) was excellent. Hopefully that is more like it. It doesn't take long for me to get annoyed at screamers.

MJ4H
07-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Wow. Regarding dark-haird really got me going girl. Tell me it gets better.

sabotai
07-12-2006, 07:52 PM
Wow. Regarding dark-haird really got me going girl. Tell me it gets better.

She won't last long.

MJ4H
07-12-2006, 07:53 PM
This was a puzzling end. This Chris guy lacked a lot of control in his voice but was about a jillion times better than whats her face.

Ryche
07-12-2006, 08:22 PM
All I can think is they are looking for a cat fight between Jill and Zayra because Jill did Zayra's week 1 song a hundred times better. Not that Chris is much of a lost. He had the worst voice of all the men and wouldn't have lasted much longer anyway.

Joe
07-12-2006, 09:54 PM
This was a puzzling end. This Chris guy lacked a lot of control in his voice but was about a jillion times better than whats her face.

you can see the band playing rock, paper, scissors in the background before the elimination. nice.

Raven Hawk
07-13-2006, 09:25 AM
All I can think is they are looking for a cat fight between Jill and Zayra because Jill did Zayra's week 1 song a hundred times better. Not that Chris is much of a lost. He had the worst voice of all the men and wouldn't have lasted much longer anyway.

I missed week 1, but if that was 100 times better I hate to think how crappy Zayra did it. It would have to be off the scale bad. Jill did NOT do a good job on the Evanessence song. That said, she was still better than the other two that faced elimination.

Mac Howard
07-13-2006, 11:09 AM
Wasn't the best week I've ever heard in this show (the first or second series). I agree that only Toby and Dilana did themselves any favours here and let's face it, Dilana was hardly doing something that Supernova could use. I'm not sure why they put Ring of Fire as one of the songs - I've not heard the "let's hear you sing a melody" that we got from INXS and I don't think we're going to get it from these guys soon.

I fully agree that they don't seem to know what they want. In fact TL and Jason have not been on the same page at all on a couple of occasions. Does Phil continue with his no-spine onstage movement to please TL or stiffen up and kick over the furniture to please Jason? And TL's "this is what Mick Jagger does" doesn't sit well with the constant advice to contestants to be themselves.

They began the series by saying that they want to be something new, something "fresh" not just heavy metal but they don't seem to have a clue what that is. I suspect they're hoping one of the singers will come up with something. Dilana would certainly be something new but I don't think that's what they mean. :) Toby will give them heavy metal. At this time I don't see any of the others giving them anything at all.

Hopefully some of them will "grow". I'm certainly not as impressed with this group as I was of the INXS constestants at the same stage.

Ryche
07-13-2006, 11:13 AM
I missed week 1, but if that was 100 times better I hate to think how crappy Zayra did it. It would have to be off the scale bad. Jill did NOT do a good job on the Evanessence song. That said, she was still better than the other two that faced elimination.

I do think any of the other women could have done it better than Jill, but I didn't think it was that bad. But Zayra's rendition was just horrible, trying to start it out with a latin sound and then just having no timing at all with the rest of the song. Trust me, it was much worse.

I loved how they kept panning the camera to Zayra while Jill was singing to watch her reaction. She looked more than a little ticked off.

Mac Howard
07-13-2006, 11:18 AM
I think Josh made his first mistake this week by picking that Creed song. There we had Brooke Burke saying that "tonight, he's picked a song that rocks" and there we got "With Arms wide open", wow... After last week's Black Crowes song, I hoped he'd rock the house real good this week but no, he picked another American Idolish kind of song. He won't fit with the band.

Yes, he has a good voice for the lighter stuff but simply doesn't have the power this group needs.

On the other hand, Toby the surfer dude was another I felt had to rock this week, after his good rendering of "Knocking on Heaven's Door" last week and rock he did. The guy's got a great voice, not one moment of screaming in the song. IMO, he'll go a long way...

Last year they'd have been asking him to do something melodic but I don't see these guys doing that.

Incidentally, when Zayra said the stuff about "in diapers" she wasn't talking about the band but the Kinks song she'd just sung. Not that anyone saw it that way :)

I have a feeling someone's going to walk out on this show. Maybe even one of the band :)

Ryche
07-13-2006, 11:21 AM
Wasn't the best week I've ever heard in this show (the first or second series). I agree that only Toby and Dilana did themselves any favours here and let's face it, Dilana was hardly doing something that Supernova could use. I'm not sure why they put Ring of Fire as one of the songs - I've not heard the "let's hear you sing a melody" that we got from INXS and I don't think we're going to get it from these guys soon.



Social Distortion does a hard fast version of Ring of Fire that I think may have been more what they had in mind.

I can see a difference of opinion on what a frontman should be. Considering these guys had Vince Neil, Axl Rose and James Hetfield as their lead singers, there's a definite difference in approach between the three. Despite all the female contestants, I have trouble seeing them choose a female lead right now. That would just be such a huge change from what they have dealt with that I don't know if they can make that leap.

Mac Howard
07-13-2006, 11:47 AM
I can see a difference of opinion on what a frontman should be. Considering these guys had Vince Neil, Axl Rose and James Hetfield as their lead singers, there's a definite difference in approach between the three.

Yes, you could well be right there.

I think the series may either move in directions we don't yet know or the band will simply revert back to their roots. I don't see any of these singers being able to introduce anything new themselves and take Supernova with them. I don't see a JD or a Marty with some innovative spark of their own but I guess it's early days.

sabotai
07-26-2006, 07:15 PM
Damn. Gilbert just ripped Jill apart. He pretty much dug her grave there.

Subby
07-26-2006, 09:28 PM
Holy God that was a great save performance by Patrice...

Raven Hawk
07-26-2006, 09:48 PM
Patrice's performance was awesome. I don't see how Zayra keeps sticking around . . .

sabotai
07-26-2006, 10:01 PM
Patrice's performance was awesome. I don't see how Zayra keeps sticking around . . .

Me neither. I change the channel whenever she comes on at this point.

Joe
07-26-2006, 10:03 PM
right now I am hoping either Storm or Toby win. I have seen some of Storm's performances with Storm Inc. and Storm and the Balls and they are awesome.

Ryche
07-27-2006, 07:59 AM
I have know clue how Zayra keeps sticking either. I don't see anything positive about her except for her looks, and even then Jill and Storm are better looking. Her voice is probably the worst of the women and she is so not rock and roll. It looked she was pretty shocked to have survived another week too.

Storm was impressive, I love that bit of crazy in her eye. Dilana is still my favorite though. I think she'd fit in well with these guys, at least Gilby and Jason.

FrogMan
07-27-2006, 08:12 AM
I have know clue how Zayra keeps sticking either. I don't see anything positive about her except for her looks, and even then Jill and Storm are better looking. Her voice is probably the worst of the women and she is so not rock and roll. It looked she was pretty shocked to have survived another week too.


you know, with her and Phil up there yesterday, I was sure Tommy Lee was going to say something along the line of "here comes a double hatchet shot" and send both of them home. Neither of them would fit them anyway. I guess Jason Newsted could not take another week of watching the head bobble but was able to live with another week of mys space costume swinging her booby lacking, too thin body... :)

She annoys the hell out of me though, all of her...

FM

Mac Howard
07-27-2006, 08:12 AM
I was very surprised that Zayra wasn't sent home. That song selection screamed out "Send me home. I've had enough". Did you see the faces on the other contestants? They couldn't believe it.

I don't understand Supernova here. In fact I can't understand those who selected her as part of the group in the first place. She can sing ok but the moment she tries to put any power into her voice she loses pitch horribly. Astonishing that she's still around.

Though I think Storm is the best of the woman, even more than INXS, I don't see a woman fronting this band. In fact only Toby and Lukas seem to me to me anything like what they need. Lukas has the image and attitude but doesn't have the power to come out from the music. Toby has the power but I don't see any imagination in his performances or ability to stay with these guys when it comes to personalities. I wonder if Supernova are beginning to regret this.

They should bring it to an end right now and call Marty!

Subby
07-27-2006, 09:09 AM
Storm, to me, seems head and shoulders above the rest. She is a great performer, has a good voice and is actually easy on the eyes.

Actually, she is very similar to Dilana, but without the 40 year-old methadone retread vibe...

Joe
07-27-2006, 07:54 PM
you know, with her and Phil up there yesterday, I was sure Tommy Lee was going to say something along the line of "here comes a double hatchet shot" and send both of them home. Neither of them would fit them anyway. I guess Jason Newsted could not take another week of watching the head bobble but was able to live with another week of mys space costume swinging her booby lacking, too thin body... :)

She annoys the hell out of me though, all of her...

FM


Its pretty obvious that Phil was eliminated because of the interviews he's given where he said he didnt care about Supernova and was only in it to promote himself and his own band.

GrantDawg
07-27-2006, 08:00 PM
Its pretty obvious that Phil was eliminated because of the interviews he's given where he said he didnt care about Supernova and was only in it to promote himself and his own band.


Well, that helps make sense of it. I couldn't get their comments (he sucked, but I didn't think he looked like he wasn't trying).

FrogMan
07-27-2006, 08:03 PM
Well, that helps make sense of it. I couldn't get their comments (he sucked, but I didn't think he looked like he wasn't trying).

yes, makes a lot more sense now. As I said, both he and Zayra should have been sent packing yesterday...

FM

Mac Howard
07-27-2006, 08:57 PM
Well, that helps make sense of it. I couldn't get their comments (he sucked, but I didn't think he looked like he wasn't trying).

Yes, I thought that was a bit contrived. Where was this interview? I didn't see it in the show.

Joe
07-28-2006, 05:24 AM
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/LIFE/607180315/1005

21C
07-28-2006, 08:59 AM
I think keeping Zayra around is a Mark Burnett-contrived idea. There is always someone in The Apprentice ( Sam from Season 1 - and Omarosa to a lesser extent ) that you wonder how they last so long. I'm sure it's the same thing with this show.

She'll never stick around until the end but, while she's there, people watching are going to talk about her at work the next day and post about her on the internet.

Mac Howard
07-28-2006, 09:06 AM
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/LIFE/607180315/1005

"I mean, really I just hope to gain exposure. ... I'm not stoked about the music Supernova's popping out."

Thanks GWB. I see what you mean.

I watched the eliminations again and Supernova's comment "You want to win the competition but do you want to be part of our band?" is pretty clear now.

FrogMan
07-28-2006, 09:23 AM
Thanks GWB. I see what you mean.

I watched the eliminations again and Supernova's comment "You want to win the competition but do you want to be part of our band?" is pretty clear now.

and remember that's what he kept saying: "no, no, guys, I really want to win this thing". He indeed never said he wanted to front them, play with them, tour with them.

Makes a lot more sense with the interview now and seriously, had I been in there shoes and had I read that interview on July 18 when it came out, he'd have been the first one to go, no matter how bad the others were...

FM

Ryche
07-28-2006, 09:25 AM
Well, that makes much more sense now. Phil was probably my least favorite among the men, and his stupidity in that interview makes me glad he was booted.

Raven Hawk
07-28-2006, 03:41 PM
I think keeping Zayra around is a Mark Burnett-contrived idea. There is always someone in The Apprentice ( Sam from Season 1 - and Omarosa to a lesser extent ) that you wonder how they last so long. I'm sure it's the same thing with this show.

She'll never stick around until the end but, while she's there, people watching are going to talk about her at work the next day and post about her on the internet.

I agree to some degree here. I've been wondering if it was a "watercooler" thing to get more people to talk about the show. Zayra is horrible. I got bored the other night and watched through some of the reality episodes. You should see the look on Newstead's face when Zayra was laying down some vocals to a new Supernova song in the first episode. Priceless.

Joe
07-28-2006, 05:34 PM
Apparently, Dave Navarro actually read that part of the article during the taping, but was edited out of what they showed on TV. I really hope they put that on the online episode next week, I'd love to see the reactions.

Mac Howard
07-29-2006, 11:28 PM
I agree to some degree here. I've been wondering if it was a "watercooler" thing to get more people to talk about the show. Zayra is horrible. I got bored the other night and watched through some of the reality episodes. You should see the look on Newstead's face when Zayra was laying down some vocals to a new Supernova song in the first episode. Priceless.

Wasn't that awful? Quite the worst thing I've ever heard on these two series. Although she's shown she can hold a high, powerful note in a couple of her non-rock songs the moment she tries to push the power in a rock sense she loses pitch altogether.

I can't help but think they're keeping here there for the appeal she may have for some of the audience. It could get too narrow and boring for many if everyone sang like Toby. I get a much greater sense of this being an entertainment show first and a competition second than I did last year. I think the search for a lead singer is just an excuse for the show rather than because this band really needs to take this path. It's a bit more contrived than the INXS thing.

sabotai
07-30-2006, 12:15 AM
I dunno. Everytime she's been in the bottom 3, there was a really good, valid excuse for kicking another one from the bottom 3 out, so I'm not sure if they are purposely keeping here around.

Although it would be nice if they pulled out the "Fuck it, you're both GONE!" one of these weeks.

Joe
07-31-2006, 05:46 AM
Here is Phil's elimination with the stuff they didn't show on tv:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjsyPLu_1bg&search=rockstar%20uncut

21C
07-31-2006, 08:37 AM
Amazing clip. Nice find, GWB.

Where would someone find a clip like that to upload to youtube? Is it from a person working on Rockstar? I looked like a production tape.

Bee
07-31-2006, 09:27 AM
The only thing I don't like about this show is it's not in HD. It's just so hard to watch anything that's non-HD anymore.

sabotai
07-31-2006, 02:00 PM
He got JACKED UP!

Joe
07-31-2006, 06:21 PM
Amazing clip. Nice find, GWB.

Where would someone find a clip like that to upload to youtube? Is it from a person working on Rockstar? I looked like a production tape.


yeah I'm pretty sure thats the case.

FrogMan
08-02-2006, 10:48 AM
did anybody see who the three bottom vote getters from early voting were?

The only thing we saw was the camera zooming out and decentering Brooke Burke and her saying that here are the three bottom vote getters in no particular order but nothing appeared on screen...

Just wondering...

FM

Subby
08-02-2006, 10:59 AM
Toby, Zayeda and Jill

Please dear god let Jill go home. Her performance was borderline frightening.

FrogMan
08-02-2006, 11:11 AM
Toby, Zayeda and Jill

Please dear god let Jill go home. Her performance was borderline frightening.

thanks.

I agree, her performance was not good, but she's got a much, much nicer body than Zayra's sack of bones...

FM

sabotai
08-02-2006, 11:14 AM
As long as Jill and Zayeda are the next two to go, the order doesn't matter. Although, perosnally, I'd like to see Zayeda go. She's always horrible and annoying. And Jill is much easier on the eyes.

Raven Hawk
08-02-2006, 11:21 AM
I seem to be in the minority here as I didn't think that Jill's performance was all that bad. I thought it was her best performance yet. I still don't think that she's that good, but I kind of liked what she did with the song last night. To be honest, I thought Patricia's peformance lacked on Higher Ground, but she's getting a bunch of kudos for her performance. Lukas should be in the bottom three, that performance sucked ass.

Subby
08-02-2006, 11:25 AM
Lukas should be in the bottom three, that performance sucked ass.Word.

sabotai
08-02-2006, 11:34 AM
I thought Patricia's peformance lacked on Higher Ground, but she's getting a bunch of kudos for her performance. Lukas should be in the bottom three, that performance sucked ass.

I thought Patrice's performance was terrible, and I'd put her in the bottom three with Jill and Zayeda. Lucas was terrible, but he'd get a pass form the band anyway for his past performances.

BrianD
08-02-2006, 11:56 AM
I seem to be in the minority here as I didn't think that Jill's performance was all that bad. I thought it was her best performance yet. I still don't think that she's that good, but I kind of liked what she did with the song last night. To be honest, I thought Patricia's peformance lacked on Higher Ground, but she's getting a bunch of kudos for her performance. Lukas should be in the bottom three, that performance sucked ass.

I thought Jill's performance might have been one of the worst of the night. The band was right in saying that she took a bunch away from the song by taking it to a higher register, and the song doesn't work well as a screamer. Also, Jill needs to learn that there is a difference between a singing-scream and just shouting. Her stage presence was good, but everything to do with the song was terrible.

Patricia's song was decent. I don't think it was particularly great, but it was solid. Lukas was bad, and I think he knew during the song that he was bad. He won't go home tonight, but I think it will be good for him to have to sing in the bottom three.

Joe
08-02-2006, 05:43 PM
Lukas destroyed one of my favorite songs. I could barely watch it.

FrogMan
08-02-2006, 06:17 PM
Lukas destroyed one of my favorite songs. I could barely watch it.

which is fitting, he could barely watch the crowd as he was destroying it... :D

FM

Syrinx
08-02-2006, 08:55 PM
Wow, tonight's result was just so wrong! :(

BrianD
08-02-2006, 09:24 PM
I was surprised by two of the final three. It is tough when we get to the point that good performers have to be in the bottom three.

GrantDawg
08-03-2006, 05:44 AM
Wow, tonight's result was just so wrong! :(


Not really. She should have never made it this far.

Ryche
08-03-2006, 08:17 AM
Too bad to see Dana go, she was fun to watch on and off the stage, great voice as well. But it's tough to complain as she was pretty obviously too inexperienced to lead the band.

I suspect Jill, Patrice and Zayra will be following shortly. I thought Patrice should be the one to go last night. She can perform and has a decent voice, just not the necessary presence.

I hope they have the guts to choose a female singer because I'm going to be disappointed if they don't pick Dilana or Storm.

Subby
08-03-2006, 08:23 AM
This will probably sound crazy, but I think Ryan has the most potential as their lead singer right now...

Ksyrup
08-03-2006, 01:57 PM
I haven't seen this show as much as I would have liked (saw my first vote off episode last night), but I think this crew is extremely weak compared to last year. And I'm finding it hard to believe some of you like Storm Large. Yes, she can sing, but her William-Shatner-acting-like-Geoff-Tate dramatizing is literally unwatchable. It's one thing if you're 4'5" and singing about medieval dwarves, then you can get away with it. But she's trying out for a modern hard rock band and acting like Ian Anderson's understudy. And you guys think she's good? I don't get it.

The parallels between Lukas and JD seem almost scripted. Both Canadian, speak their minds, piss off the other contestants, dominate the competition but have a bizarre awful performance a few weeks in... He seems like the best fit for them, though. He's also a dead ringer for fellow Canadian Hawksley Workman, except he's (1) way shorter, (2) way uglier, and (3) way less talented.

All of the chicks have to go. Now. Dilana scares me, and the rest either suck or don't fit with the band.

Subby
08-03-2006, 02:05 PM
When is the last time you saw Storm perform? She has been pretty much lights out the last two weeks and has only made the crazyeyes one time...

ISiddiqui
08-03-2006, 02:11 PM
Last night was my first 'real' watching of Rockstar (I watched a bit of the rest), and I did think Storm was absolutely excellent. I don't care if she had fake mannerisms or whatnot, but she had a voice, and that's mostly all I care about. Her and Ryan Starr (dude on the piano) were the class of last night, IMO.

Ksyrup
08-03-2006, 02:47 PM
When is the last time you saw Storm perform? She has been pretty much lights out the last two weeks and has only made the crazyeyes one time...

I've seen 3 of her performances. The Bowie song was the best of the bunch, but the way she started it out was just as affected as her previous performances. It also doesn't help that she looks like a cross between Ally McBeal's secretary and Courtney Thorne-Smith, which just adds to the absurdity. And it doesn't matter that she can sing, she absolutely doesn't fit with the band at all. It's just like the chick last night singing Alone by Heart. I would have voted her off on principle - if they truly want to succeed, that band can't be associated with someone who can pull off mid-80s Heart ballads.

Ryche
08-03-2006, 04:09 PM
I've seen 3 of her performances. The Bowie song was the best of the bunch, but the way she started it out was just as affected as her previous performances. It also doesn't help that she looks like a cross between Ally McBeal's secretary and Courtney Thorne-Smith, which just adds to the absurdity. And it doesn't matter that she can sing, she absolutely doesn't fit with the band at all. It's just like the chick last night singing Alone by Heart. I would have voted her off on principle - if they truly want to succeed, that band can't be associated with someone who can pull off mid-80s Heart ballads.

Actually I think Gilby said in an earlier episode that he had played for Heart.

Dilana is easily my favorite and then Storm is 2nd by a decent amount over the other performers for me. But I'm a sucker for female singers so I probably don't give the guys enough credit.

Joe
08-03-2006, 05:39 PM
Yeah Gilby toured with Heart in '03 and also Nancy Sinatra.

Fouts
08-03-2006, 06:31 PM
I'm enjoying the performances. Some very good performers that I'll probably never see again. I could care less who joins the band.

FrogMan
08-03-2006, 07:51 PM
Yeah Gilby toured with Heart in '03 and also Nancy Sinatra.

speaking of Gilby, I was kind of floored to realize he was withj Kill for Thrills. I had their tape in my car for such a long time. Loved "Motorcycle Cowboy". Man we're getting old... :)

FM

Joe
08-03-2006, 07:55 PM
speaking of Gilby, I was kind of floored to realize he was withj Kill for Thrills. I had their tape in my car for such a long time. Loved "Motorcycle Cowboy". Man we're getting old... :)

FM

also speaking of Gilby, I broke out some of Guns N Roses concert bootlegs from the time period he was in. they were actually pretty good and better than I remembered them being.

Mac Howard
08-03-2006, 08:25 PM
I'm enjoying the performances. Some very good performers that I'll probably never see again. I could care less who joins the band.
And I think that's the view of the producers. The band may care - I suspect they may have to put up with each other for about 6 months - but this is now much more of a music show than a competition. The band's approval of Storm's and Ryan's performances and Jill's in the elimination indicates that they have to back off on the "must have more grunt" approach. The show needs a wider appeal than satisfying their narrow interests would bring.

I thought there was a big improvement in this week's performances. Ryan showed a vocal ability I'd not heard before - but he does need to improve his movement on stage to front the band. Currently he'd be invisible with TL behind him. Dilana continues to come up with something new and interesting. I still have questions as to whether a woman can front the band though.

Jill? Well she's good on the eye. She can stay there for some time for that reason for me. I don't think her performance was that bad. I must admit something was missing from it but she didn't deserve to be eliminated while Zayda is still around. Amazed Zayda missed the bottom three.

I don't get the band's liking for Magni. He leaves me cold every time. Lukas? A one trick pony. I'm getting bored with the growling menace. He moves well, has the image but his vocals are weak and predictable. I see the similarity with JD but he hasn't shown the imagination of him so far (though I'm not sure JD had at this stage).

If I remember rightly, at this stage in the INXS show we were also suggesting that there was no one there to lead the band but they improved considerably as the show continued (where is Suzie? Wasn't she supposed to come back?) On this performance this group are already showing signs of improving also - Dana only went because she was never going to be able to front the band because of immaturity not because she didn't have the musical talent. The evenness of the contestants now is such that I think there would have been surprise at anyone leaving other than Zayda.

I got some enthusiasm back from this week's show.

Ksyrup
08-09-2006, 08:04 AM
Seriously, I just don't see how anyone can like Storm Large (I have a hard time even typing the name it's so ridiculous). She was awful last night - missed a ton of notes and sang We Are the Champions way too low. I'm really getting tired of the band being too generous in their reviews. Only once did someone give a direct negative comment, and I think it was to Zayra for her flat singing. But there are so many things wrong with her, that her singing is just a drop in the bucket.

I'd say all of the girls aside from Dilana need to go home now. She was actually pretty good. I don't like her because she scares me and sounds more like Brian Johnson than a woman, but she's about the only chick who could fit with this band.

Toby did a surprisingly good version of Burning Down the House - I hate that song, but the arrangement really gave it a nice hard rock feel. I assume the house band should get the credit for that, but since we don't get to see the rehearsals anymore, I don't know.

Still, I'd say Toby, Josh, and Ryan are interchangeable. They all have a somewhat unique style, but overall, I can't tell them apart. I'm not sure what was with Ryan's Batman performance last night. I'll give him an A for intensity, but that was just plain weird. This band doesn't strike me as the kind to do stupid dress up and reveal performances, and the black across the eyes came off as UIC. Josh would fit in perfectly as the lead singer for a Maroon 5 tribute band. No way he is a legit challenger to win this thing.

My guess is at least 2of the 3 in the bottom are women, and one of them goes. Jill, Storm, Patrice, and Zayra all should go right now.

Pumpy Tudors
08-09-2006, 08:12 AM
I didn't see the performance show this week, but I like Storm. I don't know why, but I do. I think I want her to touch me. :(

Ryche
08-09-2006, 01:12 PM
Found an old video that Dilana did, I think from around 2000. Not nearly as 'scary' :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODc8bTMMTC0

She's still easily my favorite and I think she might be that band's favorite at this point too. The lack of interest everyone else showed in playing with Gilby definitely moved her up a notch.

Ksyrup
08-09-2006, 01:17 PM
I thought they overplayed that point. While, from a personal standpoint, it might be fun to say you did it, from a strategic standpoint, it's not so cut and dried. Look at what it did for/to Patrice last week? The bottom line is, if you make it far enough, you're going to get the chance to play with them sooner or later.

Something else I just remembered...didn't Gilby mention last week that they were going to give the group some music to write lyrics/melodies to? What happened with that? Or are they giving them several weeks to come up with something passable? It just dawned on me that I was looking forward to that from last week, yet not a word about it last night. Bummer.

Raven Hawk
08-09-2006, 02:33 PM
I often think that Josh is channelling Carly Simon.

Subby
08-09-2006, 02:37 PM
I actually enjoyed all of the performances last night. Every week I look at my wife and remark how much this show kicks American Idol's ass. :)

All that said, I think Jill goes home this week, although I have to give her props for improving her look.

Ksyrup
08-09-2006, 02:44 PM
It definitely kicks AI's ass - that's not even debatable - but I usually only enjoy about half of the performances. Still, I like the fact that a number of these people are actually musicians, even if they are limited in their vocal or performance skills. I'll take that over what AI offers 100% of the time.

Fouts
08-09-2006, 05:59 PM
I actually enjoyed all of the performances last night. Every week I look at my wife and remark how much this show kicks American Idol's ass. :)

All that said, I think Jill goes home this week, although I have to give her props for improving her look.

Same here, we enjoy the whole show, except for Zayra. When Zayra performs, everyone leaves the room.

FrogMan
08-09-2006, 07:20 PM
Something else I just remembered...didn't Gilby mention last week that they were going to give the group some music to write lyrics/melodies to? What happened with that? Or are they giving them several weeks to come up with something passable? It just dawned on me that I was looking forward to that from last week, yet not a word about it last night. Bummer.

might have been presented in the half hour reality TV show that, I think, is available on the show's website. We usually get it here on a Canadian channel, but I made a mistake in programming our recorder last Monday so we missed it. Will probably check the website at some point.

FM

GrantDawg
08-10-2006, 05:25 AM
Same here, we enjoy the whole show, except for Zayra. When Zayra performs, everyone leaves the room.

Ditto, except the "leave the room" part. I don't want to miss her doing something weird.

And I love Storm (except the name), and I didn't see anything wrong with her performance this week. Plus, she is so hawt.

Joe
08-10-2006, 06:00 AM
might have been presented in the half hour reality TV show that, I think, is available on the show's website. We usually get it here on a Canadian channel, but I made a mistake in programming our recorder last Monday so we missed it. Will probably check the website at some point.

FM

yep it was on the reality show on the website. Dilana's lyrics were the best:

"bring your wine and your song, your lotion and your thong"

:p

Ksyrup
08-10-2006, 06:53 AM
Damn, I wanted to see that. I thought they were going to incorporate it into the show...? So there's like a completely different storyline that's only being captured on the website? They don't think it's crucial to the show to let us see who the band was impressed with in these types of exercises? Surely that's going to impact on their ultimate decision. With INXS, JD essentially won when he split off from the group exercise and wrote the lyrics to the song that eventually became the band's first single. Man, I'm bummed.

Joe
08-10-2006, 06:57 AM
Damn, I wanted to see that. I thought they were going to incorporate it into the show...? So there's like a completely different storyline that's only being captured on the website? They don't think it's crucial to the show to let us see who the band was impressed with in these types of exercises? Surely that's going to impace on their ultimate decision. With INXS, JD essentially won when he split off from the group exercise and wrote the lyrics to the song that eventually became the band's first single. Man, I'm bummed.


they show clips from the reality shows usually at the beginnings of the tuesday episodes, so they are connected somewhat.

Ksyrup
08-10-2006, 07:50 AM
I watched it, though, and all they focused on was Gilby giving them each a guitar and how no one wanted the song where Gilby was going to play guitar with them. And that was like 2 minute intro anyway.

Ksyrup
08-10-2006, 09:43 AM
So what did you guys think of them cutting 2 people at once? Personally, I thought they should have cut all 5 of the people who were in the bottom 3 at one point. I wonder if this was a legit decision, or based somewhat on the lackluster ratings and need to move the show along at a faster clip?

Ryche
08-10-2006, 11:24 AM
Not surprised they cut them both and I'd agree that they might as well have cut Zayra, Patrice and Ryan as well. The other five are the only ones who have any chance at this point.

My guess would be that they are told before the contest started that one or two weeks they will have to cut two people. I know I was thinking last night that I didn't care which of Josh or Jill was cut as I was ready for them both to be gone.

GrantDawg
08-10-2006, 05:00 PM
So what did you guys think of them cutting 2 people at once? Personally, I thought they should have cut all 5 of the people who were in the bottom 3 at one point. I wonder if this was a legit decision, or based somewhat on the lackluster ratings and need to move the show along at a faster clip?

I think they had a two-cut planned, just not when. They did the same thing last year.

Mac Howard
08-10-2006, 08:29 PM
Damn, I wanted to see that. I thought they were going to incorporate it into the show...? So there's like a completely different storyline that's only being captured on the website? They don't think it's crucial to the show to let us see who the band was impressed with in these types of exercises? Surely that's going to impact on their ultimate decision. With INXS, JD essentially won when he split off from the group exercise and wrote the lyrics to the song that eventually became the band's first single. Man, I'm bummed.

They do still produce that rehearsal show for tv. They're apparently not showing it to you guys. We get three shows: Tuesday the rehearsal show, Wednesday the performances and Thursday the elimination just like last year. Next week I'll let you know if there's anything interesting in it.

In the rehearsal show they all had to produce and sing their own song to the Supernova rhythm track. The track was surpisingly old-style rock - Chuck Berry driving down the highway stuff. Lukas came out best (it took him about 10 minutes to write it) with Ryan doing pretty well (he was up till three in the morning writing his thanks in part to Lukas insisting on singing his own song to him repeatedly. There's more than just a touch of JD's insecurity in Lukas :) ). Dilana's lyrics were strangely 1950/60s pop-rock "let's go to the hop" stuff. Didn't go down well with Supernova. I was looking forward to seeing what Zayra would produce but they (mercifully?) didn't show it.

I thought the performances were terrific this week in the main. There's no question that the performances of many of them have improved because of the show. Lukas certainly sprung a surprise - he sounded even better in rehearsals when there was less backing. Toby and Magni continued to impress, Storm less so but I think Ryan has reached his limits as a showman - that was just corny. Nor was I particularly impressed by his elimination performance. He's simply trying too hard to overcome a lack of genuine spontaneity in his stagecraft.

Jill had to go - powerful voice but no attempt to modulate her performances - and Josh was never going to front these guys. Don't know how long Zayra can avoid elimination - do you think there's a fix on here? - but she and Patrice surely can't last much longer.

Ksyrup
08-10-2006, 09:20 PM
I wish they were doing what they did mid-season last year, which was to put the rehearsal show on VH1 on Sunday night. Oh well.

sabotai
08-10-2006, 09:24 PM
Don't know how long Zayra can avoid elimination - do you think there's a fix on here?

She hasn't been in the bottom three for a few weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some "vote for the worst" movement out there voting for Zyra each week for the last few weeks.

Mac Howard
08-11-2006, 07:12 AM
She hasn't been in the bottom three for a few weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some "vote for the worst" movement out there voting for Zyra each week for the last few weeks.Or someone simply can't count right for some reason :)

sabotai
08-16-2006, 07:18 PM
Wow, that Supernove song really sucked.

Pumpy Tudors
08-16-2006, 07:20 PM
I'm not really a music nut, but that song really didn't sound like anything revolutionary. I guess with the way they've built up these musicians, I expected more.

Ksyrup
08-16-2006, 09:34 PM
Yeah, that song was pedestrian at best. I sure hope Butch Walker wasn't directly involved in writing that one.

They should have cut Patrice and Zayra tonight. Oh well.

Joe
08-16-2006, 09:45 PM
I hope Butch is able to separate himself from this project before it's too late.

Ksyrup
08-16-2006, 10:14 PM
Dude, he was in Southgang. If he survived that, he can survive anything.

Bee
08-17-2006, 05:44 AM
Well, you have to have something on the B side.

I'm just glad Zayra is finally gone. Once Patrice gets cut next week things should start to get interesting.

Joe
08-17-2006, 05:48 AM
Patrice was pretty bad on Celebrity Skin, but still 100x better than when Lukas did that song. I like that song a lot, so I hope I don't have to hear anyone else butcher it.

Raven Hawk
08-17-2006, 10:56 AM
Well, you have to have something on the B side.

I'm just glad Zayra is finally gone. Once Patrice gets cut next week things should start to get interesting.

I agree. Once Patrice is gone, the competition really begins. I think that all of the people that are left after that have a legitimate shot at winning.

That Supernova song was pretty dull. It sounded too poppy for what I was expecting would come out of those three.

Mac Howard
08-17-2006, 11:03 AM
At the party in Vegas Dilana was hanging around Tommy Lee's neck saying "You can send the rest home right now" as she blew into his ear :)

Ajaxab
08-17-2006, 12:12 PM
After all the talk of the contestants presenting their rock side to Supernova, that sure was a tame song for the band's debut. Hardly the stuff of Metallica and Guns 'n Roses.

If I'm one of the remaining contestants, I'm hoping to go as far as I can to the point of finishing 2nd. I want all the pub that goes with finishing well, but I do not want to be the lead singer of a band that appears to be going nowhere but to Vegas on New Year's Eve.

Joe
08-20-2006, 07:32 PM
Here's a music video Dilana made, obviously before this show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODc8bTMMTC0

Raven Hawk
08-20-2006, 10:08 PM
Good find, GW. There's a second video on youtube also. Both of the songs sound too poppy. That one that's linked here has some pretty good lyrics, but the music behind it is poppy. I think whoever produced it was trying to make her sound like Avril Lavigne/Kelly Clarkson. Not very rocking. I still like her, though.

Mac Howard
08-22-2006, 10:30 AM
I've just been watching the rehearsal show which I gather you guys in the states don't get to see. So a couple of words about what is going on.

To begin with, you may not be surprised to learn that not all the contestants liked the Supernova song last week. Ryan hated the song and Storm disliked the lyrics.

We learned this because the contestants met the media and Dilana in particular said a little too much. She panned most of the contestants in particular Lukas who she said daily caused her to want to punch him. One of the media interviewers was particularly aggressive and Lukas walked out on her in a fit of pique when she told him everyone seemed to hate him.

Jason, who walked around sneakily listening in, wasn't impressed.

Toby got his own back on Dilana for last week by deliberately opposing her on song selection and finally telling her he would only give up the song - Every Breath You Take - if she ran around the pool naked. She did! Pixelated, of course. This is the USA ;) Still, there's not a lot to see - Toby described her as being like a little boy with a big wig. Hell, we Australians do have a way with the girls :)

In song selection there are two originals taken by Ryan and Patrice. We heard a lot of Ryan's effort - the band were very impressed though not by his tendancy to micromanage them. Sounds interesting. We didn't hear Patrice.

Toby's doing an interesting version of Layla. Nothing like the original but what he calls a Supernova song. Didn't hear enough to comment.

Dilana's struggling for the first time with Every Breath You Take. She wants to break into a falsetto but can't. She's been walking around the mansion trying to capture it and sounding, to Toby's and Lukas' dismay as they try to play pool (and down yet another beer), like an asthmatic dog. I'm not sure if it will make the final performance.

And a final piece of information I had never guessed - the contestants are all bored now. Apparently Zayra was the life and soul of the party and they're all lost without her :rolleyes:

Ryche
08-22-2006, 11:33 AM
I watched that show over the internet last night. Dilana definitely said too much in those interviews while the rest of the group really tried to avoid negative comments about the others. Looks like there will be some interesting tension between her and Lucas although I took her comments as more her being annoyed by him like a brother than disliking him.

One of the interviews (the one Lucas walked out on) was a major bitch. I'm guessing that was deliberate to see how the contestants would handle it.

I think we're getting to the point where the contestants last year started having major issues in the house. Being cooped up with these people week after week, mostly isolated from friends and family takes its toll. That was a large part of what caused Jordis to faulter last season.

Ksyrup
08-22-2006, 12:11 PM
I've just been watching the rehearsal show which I gather you guys in the states don't get to see. So a couple of words about what is going on.

To begin with, you may not be surprised to learn that not all the contestants liked the Supernova song last week. Ryan hated the song and Storm disliked the lyrics.

We learned this because the contestants met the media and Dilana in particular said a little too much. She panned most of the contestants in particular Lukas who she said daily caused her to want to punch him. One of the media interviewers was particularly aggressive and Lukas walked out on her in a fit of pique when she told him everyone seemed to hate him.

Jason, who walked around sneakily listening in, wasn't impressed.

Toby got his own back on Dilana for last week by deliberately opposing her on song selection and finally telling her he would only give up the song - Every Breath You Take - if she ran around the pool naked. She did! Pixelated, of course. This is the USA ;) Still, there's not a lot to see - Toby described her as being like a little boy with a big wig. Hell, we Australians do have a way with the girls :)

In song selection there are two originals taken by Ryan and Patrice. We heard a lot of Ryan's effort - the band were very impressed though not by his tendancy to micromanage them. Sounds interesting. We didn't hear Patrice.

Toby's doing an interesting version of Layla. Nothing like the original but what he calls a Supernova song. Didn't hear enough to comment.

Dilana's struggling for the first time with Every Breath You Take. She wants to break into a falsetto but can't. She's been walking around the mansion trying to capture it and sounding, to Toby's and Lukas' dismay as they try to play pool (and down yet another beer), like an asthmatic dog. I'm not sure if it will make the final performance.

And a final piece of information I had never guessed - the contestants are all bored now. Apparently Zayra was the life and soul of the party and they're all lost without her :rolleyes:

Thanks for the condensed version! I should make myself watch this on the net, but I just never seem to want to or remember about it.

Ksyrup
08-22-2006, 03:31 PM
Spoilers for tonight's show:











Patrice - Beautiful Thing - Original song
Magni - Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
Ryan - Back of your Car - Original song
Storm - Cryin'Aerosmith
Dilana - Every Breath You Take - the Police
Toby - Layla - Eric Clapton
Lukas - All These Things That I've Done The Killers

GrantDawg
08-23-2006, 05:09 AM
Patrice's new song was lame, but Ryan's was pretty good. After Patrice is gone this week, it is going to get real tough.

Joe
08-23-2006, 06:27 AM
patrice and her usual monotone voice sucked again.

Ksyrup
08-23-2006, 06:46 AM
Overall, that was one of the best weeks I can recall. I thought nearly everyone was pretty good. I really like Ryan's song. Patrice was OK, but she doesn't fit the band anyway, so she should be gone.

I thought the only one who outright sucked was Lukas and cannot believe they all thought he was good. Every time they showed the band, they all had confused looks on their faces. And when Tommy Lee did his stupid "Two words...check please" bit, I couldn't tell whether that was meant as a compliment or not. But apparently it was. I'm sorry, but that guy cannot enunciate when he sings and his normal singing voice seems to be too harsh. When he concentrates and sings cleanly, he sounds better. But his bad voice and constant singing to the band is getting annoying. His performances are simply a mess. I'd be interested to hear an original from him, though, to see if he brings something more to the part.

Joe
08-23-2006, 06:48 AM
plus, Lukas looks like he's 3 foot 5... how tall is this midget anyway?

Raven Hawk
08-23-2006, 08:47 AM
My ranking of last night's performances best to worst:

Ryan
Toby
Magni
Storm
Dilana
Lukas
Patrice

I just don't like how Patrice performs on stage, I'm not quite sure what it is about her. Regardless, she doesn't fit the band. I agree that I thought that Tommy was insulting Lukas by saying, "Check Please!" I don't get Lukas and I don't think that he's particularly talented. Magni was on fire last night, Ryan gets props for having a really good song. Gilby said he didn't like Toby's arrangement of Layla . . . I loved it. I can't get it out of my head.

Ksyrup
08-23-2006, 09:09 AM
Has anyone heard Navarro's Panic Channel album? Until yesterday, I had completely forgotten that this was the band he left Jane's Addiction for that caused such a huge shitstorm for the lead singer, Steve Isaacs from Skycycle (he was "virtually assaulted" by JA fans for causing the breakup, etc.). Since Isaacs is involved, I might actually be interested in hearing this. Any comments?

Neon_Chaos
08-23-2006, 09:28 AM
Ryan just blew that one out of the park. Can you say encore for the 3rd time?

I am heavily rooting for Magni, though. He can belt it out, and he needed to last night. Ryan just crept up on everyone with steady performances for the past 4 weeks.

edit: They show the Webcast before the Performance Episode over here in the Philippines... so just about 2 hours of Rockstar on Wednesdays (tuesdays over there of course.)

Eaglesfan27
08-23-2006, 03:53 PM
Overall, that was one of the best weeks I can recall. I thought nearly everyone was pretty good. I really like Ryan's song. Patrice was OK, but she doesn't fit the band anyway, so she should be gone.

I thought the only one who outright sucked was Lukas and cannot believe they all thought he was good. Every time they showed the band, they all had confused looks on their faces. And when Tommy Lee did his stupid "Two words...check please" bit, I couldn't tell whether that was meant as a compliment or not. But apparently it was. I'm sorry, but that guy cannot enunciate when he sings and his normal singing voice seems to be too harsh. When he concentrates and sings cleanly, he sounds better. But his bad voice and constant singing to the band is getting annoying. His performances are simply a mess. I'd be interested to hear an original from him, though, to see if he brings something more to the part.

Completely agree. I thought Ryan was the best last night, and I didn't think Magni did nearly as good a job as the judges said. It was alright, but not great.

Joe
08-23-2006, 05:30 PM
there is actually no encore tonight. I don't know if I should post the full spoilers or not

DeToxRox
08-23-2006, 05:35 PM
there is actually no encore tonight. I don't know if I should post the full spoilers or not

Can ya PM 'em to me? I'm gonna be gone for it.

Joe
08-23-2006, 05:39 PM
yeah

sabotai
08-23-2006, 08:23 PM
Damn it. I'm seriously tired of this changing time slots crap. On at 10 last night, but on at 8 tonight. STOP IT!!


So who got kicked off?

Joe
08-23-2006, 08:32 PM
Patrice. Bottom 3: Patrice, Toby, Magni. Toby sang with Supernova. Dilana got bitched at by Dave & Supernova... twice.

GrantDawg
08-24-2006, 05:07 AM
Patrice. Bottom 3: Patrice, Toby, Magni. Toby sang with Supernova. Dilana got bitched at by Dave & Supernova... twice.


Yep. A lot of negative on Dilana last night. The stuff she said to Ryan was just mean, and throwing Lukas and Toby under the bus to the press is not going to endear herself to the band. She goes from front runner to wounded duck pretty quickly.

Raven Hawk
08-24-2006, 08:27 AM
It was pretty much in the cards that Patrice would be gone. Now Lukas needs to go and we'll have a competition! I saw what Dilanna said on the webcast and she totally shot herself in the foot. Not to mention that when being questioned by the Dave & Supernova, she changed the answer to one of her questions after she heard how the crowd reacted to it. She's going down, down, down in a burning ring of fire . . .

Ksyrup
08-24-2006, 08:39 AM
Being controversial didn't kill JD last year. Maybe Dilana has stolen the crown from would-be dick Lukas thanks to her performances. Lukas is becoming less and less important to the show. I thought he was going to be the next JD, but he has fizzled big-time.

Raven Hawk
08-24-2006, 04:57 PM
The difference between JD and Dilana is the fact that JD screwed up earlier in the season and was able to overcome his screwup over time. At this point, there are only 6 contestants left, which means, what 4 or 5 more weeks at the mansion? I'm not sure if she's got enough time to overcome what she's done.

DeToxRox
08-24-2006, 05:02 PM
What'd Dilana say about Ryan and Toby and such? I missed this week, Damn time changes.

Mota
08-24-2006, 06:58 PM
What'd Dilana say about Ryan and Toby and such? I missed this week, Damn time changes.

Check out the reality TV show on rockstar.msn.com, it should be there. Bascially they all do media interviews and she just trash talks Lukas to hell, just throws him under the bus. Exactly what the band said NOT to do when they kicked out that first loser about a month ago.

Joe
08-24-2006, 07:02 PM
Check out the reality TV show on rockstar.msn.com, it should be there. Bascially they all do media interviews and she just trash talks Lukas to hell, just throws him under the bus. Exactly what the band said NOT to do when they kicked out that first loser about a month ago.

And she said that Toby was faking it. Also after the performance show, she said that Ryan would have sucked if not for the house band.

Ksyrup
08-25-2006, 06:52 AM
Remind you of anyone in particular...?


http://www.dilanarox.com/home/new_foto_4.jpg

Ksyrup
08-25-2006, 06:53 AM
How about...


http://www.megiloth.com/images/lj/blackie_lawless.jpg

Joe
08-27-2006, 05:46 PM
Here are some clips of Magni and Toby singing U2 songs at the Citywalk concert

Where The Streets Have No Name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EhOv3TDhpE

With Or Without You:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THTH7COkgsI

There are also performances of the others on youtube as well.

Ksyrup
08-29-2006, 08:10 AM
Spoilers for tonight's show...













Lukas - Lithium - Nirvana
Magni - I, Alone - Live
Ryan - Clocks - Coldplay
Storm - Bring Me Back to Life - Evanescance, with special guest singer...
Toby - Rebel Yell - Billy Idol
Dilana - Mother Mother - Tracy Bonham

Bee
08-29-2006, 08:23 AM
Was this the week where fans got to pick what everyone sang?

Ksyrup
08-29-2006, 08:26 AM
Yes, I think so. Why would people want to hear Magni sing another Live song? It seems like all he's done is sing early 90s grunge/rock songs all competition, with a Coldplay/Radiohead song thrown in "for variety." Same with Lukas.

Bee
08-29-2006, 08:30 AM
Yep, none of those will be challenging to the singers. It's almost like the fans picked the best fit for each singer. If I would have voted, I would have gone in a completely different direction :D (although maybe the song selection was limited?).

BrianD
08-29-2006, 09:15 AM
Do we know who Storm's special guest singer will be?

Ksyrup
08-29-2006, 09:16 AM
I do (below if you want to know).



















Toby, who apparently got better reviews on Storm's song than Storm did.

Bee
08-29-2006, 09:27 AM
That doesn't surprise me. I think Storm may be the next to go. She's very inconsistent.

BrianD
08-29-2006, 09:40 AM
Ah, that is less exciting than I thought it would be. Should still be fun though.

Ksyrup
08-29-2006, 06:00 PM
Wasn't Mig the "ringer" last year?


"Rock Star: Supernova" co-host Dave Navarro has dismissed rumors that the winner of the reality talent competition has already been selected.

Several online sources reported earlier today that veteran Hollywood gossip columnist Janet Charlton has revealed the winner's name on her web site. Although the show is live and the winner won't be officially announced until September 13, Charlton claims to have inside information on who will ultimately be named the new lead singer for the band SUPERNOVA.

The series follows the search for a vocalist to join the new band, formed by MÖTLEY CRÜE drummer Tommy Lee, former METALLICA bassist Jason Newsted and one-time GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Gilby Clarke. Charlton says the band had the most clout when it came choosing the winner in the competition because they will have to go on the road with them.

She claims contestant Lukas Rossi was selected because band members thought he would be the best fit and, barring any unforeseen events, he will be named the winner in the series finale next month.

In a posting on his web site, Navarro wrote, "Damn there are some funny rumors around regarding the show. First of all, I don't know who Janet Charlton is, but I do know who she isn't. She aint no Perez Hilton, that's for sure. At least with Perez, you get humor and the rumors are at least based in SOME fact. He leaves it up to the reader to do the dance between the two. As for Janet, she just kind of sees what sticks.

"Well, with 'Rock Star', she doesn't have a clue as to what she is talking about. If she has an inside source... Name it! Come on! I dare you! Name it!

"If you don't know what I am talking about... She has claimed that she knows who the winner is. Trust me... Nobody knows until it's over. In fact, if there is one thing I CAN share, it's that SUPERNOVA has yet to be on the same page with each other in terms of favorites and they are waiting to see if their ideas line up in the coming weeks based on the remaining performances. Very diplomatic and democratic style. As for the stuff about Storm being edged out through our comments... That is just stupid. Don't forget that no matter what happens, the band can throw out whoever they want for whatever reason they want. They can also save whoever they want. Hell, they don't even need reasons! It is true that the public vote shifts the game in a huge way and that SUPERNOVA considers the results every week, but there is no reason for a conspiracy! Why would anyone try to conspire something that they ultimately control anyway? Just doesn't make sense. These guys are busy writing and rehearsing, not to mention that Tommy is still doing CRÜE stuff on our days off. They don't have time to come up with a 'master plan.'

"The remaining six are all good and tomorrow's elimination is bound to be heart-breaking for some! Each singer has a pretty solid fan base at this point. Tonight is the night, if ever there was one, to VOTE!!!"

sabotai
08-29-2006, 06:28 PM
Wasn't Mig the "ringer" last year?

Yup

Joe
08-29-2006, 06:35 PM
ringers should win, Mig was laughably bad when doing INXS songs

Joe
08-29-2006, 06:56 PM
Yes, I think so. Why would people want to hear Magni sing another Live song? It seems like all he's done is sing early 90s grunge/rock songs all competition, with a Coldplay/Radiohead song thrown in "for variety." Same with Lukas.

Don't forget that in week 1, Lukas sang "Rebel Yell", where he was amazingly able to mumble more of the words than Billy Idol.

sabotai
08-29-2006, 08:17 PM
For the record, I thought the arrangement, and Lukas, sucked.

Ksyrup
08-29-2006, 09:18 PM
Yeah, Lukas is only going to make it if the band wants him to. I'd probably get rid of Storm and Lukas next.

sabotai
08-29-2006, 09:21 PM
I was less than impressed with Storm as well, but giving her the benifit of the doubt, it was an Evanescence song...

I would hope Lukas goes next, but they seemed to like it and won't get rid of him now. It will probably be Storm.

Mota
08-29-2006, 09:27 PM
It's very sad, because I think that Storm is the most talented of the competitors this year. However, she hasn't been changing up the songs lately, doing more of a karaoke job with them and just hasn't been fantastic. And that's especially noticeable now when all the people left are very talented and are doing great things with their songs.

I really think that Magni is the best fit for the band right now, although he doesn't have quite as much star power as the other singers. He is just great with both his soft and heavy voices, and can make everything sound great.

Pumpy Tudors
08-29-2006, 10:11 PM
I'm not sure whether I want Storm to win or not. I guess I want whatever makes her more likely to touch me. :(

GrantDawg
08-30-2006, 05:26 AM
It's very sad, because I think that Storm is the most talented of the competitors this year. However, she hasn't been changing up the songs lately, doing more of a karaoke job with them and just hasn't been fantastic. And that's especially noticeable now when all the people left are very talented and are doing great things with their songs.


Ditto.

I'm not sure whether I want Storm to win or not. I guess I want whatever makes her more likely to touch me. :(

Double ditto.


As for the winner, I think Ryan has the edge right now (or at least he should). He has really blown everything away the last few weeks. Of course, I think Jason sort of gave it away last night that he isn't a fan.

Joe
08-30-2006, 05:29 AM
if Ryan winds up in the bottom 3 tonight, he is probably gone

Ksyrup
08-30-2006, 07:05 AM
I don't see how Ryan fits with them at all. It seems like he has to try too hard to place himself in the proper context to look like a comfortable fit for this band, whereas everyone else left (besides Storm) looks pretty natural in that setting (if that makes sense). Plus, he looks too much like David Blaine. He should be elevating during his performances or something.

Bee
08-30-2006, 07:29 AM
Last night they said that the winner would be chosen in two weeks. I didn't watch last year, so what happens at the end to speed things up? Do they start dropping a couple at a time or something?

Pumpy Tudors
08-30-2006, 07:38 AM
Last night they said that the winner would be chosen in two weeks. I didn't watch last year, so what happens at the end to speed things up? Do they start dropping a couple at a time or something?
I wondered about this, too. How do you eliminate four people (because you need a "final two" showdown) in two weeks? I'm going to guess that they'll eliminate two people tonight and then just do a "final four" thing next week.

Ksyrup
08-30-2006, 07:39 AM
I was wondering the same thing. I thought they narrowed it down to 3 last year. But there are 6 now, meaning 3 would have to go between now and the end of next week to be down to 3. Who knows. I find it hard to believe they'd dump 2 at this stage, but you never know.

Ksyrup
08-30-2006, 07:40 AM
I wondered about this, too. How do you eliminate four people (because you need a "final two" showdown) in two weeks? I'm going to guess that they'll eliminate two people tonight and then just do a "final four" thing next week.

When they say 2 weeks, that doesn't include this week. So there would be one more "regular" week next week, then the finals the week of September 11. But the numbers still don't add up.

Ksyrup
08-30-2006, 07:44 AM
I'm pretty sure last year the finalists were Mig, Marty, and JD. They let Mig go, then JD and Marty were left. If they follow the same format here, they have 3 people to get rid of between tonight and next Wednesday.

FrogMan
08-30-2006, 07:46 AM
that also struck as odd about two or three weeks ago when they said the finale was going to be September 13 or 14 and there were still 8 contestants. Really have no clue how they'll do it though...

As for yesterday's show, frigging canadian channel that has the feed screwed up the sound for about the first 20-25 minutes or so. Could hear the crowd loud and clear but not the voices, either the singer or the chit chat with the band. Even the reality TV stuff sound was all screwy, as if it had been compressed way too much, like an MP3 at 28k instead of 192k although I didn't care much for that, having seen most of it the day before. That screwed the prestations of Lukas, Magni and Ryan. Weird thing is the ads were all fine.

FM

Ryche
08-30-2006, 07:51 AM
Dilana, Dilana.

I still think she would be the best bet if they want this band to end up more than a side project. It looks like they are not going to hold last week's mistake against her and all they keep doing is raving about her performances.

But Toby did one hell of a job with Rebel Yell last night. I think Lukas has a problem in that he's performed two songs that were done better by his competitors now. That can't be good for his chances.

Ksyrup
08-30-2006, 07:56 AM
I can't deny that Dilana is good, yet I don't really like her. Maybe it's simply a matter of taste; I prefer women, even in rock, who have more in common with a model than Rob Zombie. If I'm just being honest, she reminds me of an ugly troll. She even cries ugly (what the hell was that sob/cough thing she was doing after she found out she cut Magni with the glass?).

I guess as a guy I have to interject sex into it (with the guys, of course, I couldn't care less other than looking at it from a marketing standpoint), and with Dilana, sex is the furthest thing from my mind when I see her.

Pumpy Tudors
08-30-2006, 08:47 AM
When they say 2 weeks, that doesn't include this week. So there would be one more "regular" week next week, then the finals the week of September 11. But the numbers still don't add up.
Doh. You're right. Apparently, I can't remember what "in 2 weeks" means. :o

Well, then, either this week or next week, they'll probably drop two people. I'll guess that it'll happen this week.

Bee
08-30-2006, 08:57 AM
I was guessing they would drop two this week, two next week and then have a head to head for the finale, but like I said I didn't watch last year and didn't realize they had three finalists.

FrogMan
08-30-2006, 09:10 AM
I was guessing they would drop two this week, two next week and then have a head to head for the finale, but like I said I didn't watch last year and didn't realize they had three finalists.

but if they do that, it's probably the stupidest way to manage the show. I mean, if you need THREE weeks of double elimination, why not do it when contestants are crap? Now is where you could build some solid ratings and milk them for the next 5 weeks, not when we were stuck with weekly elimination prestations from Zayra...

FM

Bee
08-30-2006, 09:38 AM
but if they do that, it's probably the stupidest way to manage the show. I mean, if you need THREE weeks of double elimination, why not do it when contestants are crap? Now is where you could build some solid ratings and milk them for the next 5 weeks, not when we were stuck with weekly elimination prestations from Zayra...

FM

I was just trying to figure out a way they could get down to two finalists in two weeks on the assumption they'd have a head to head competition on the last week. I wasn't suggesting they do it that way, I was just trying to figure out how they were going to do it. And it's reality tv...stupidity is the entire basis of the whole format. :D

FrogMan
08-30-2006, 09:53 AM
I was just trying to figure out a way they could get down to two finalists in two weeks on the assumption they'd have a head to head competition on the last week. I wasn't suggesting they do it that way, I was just trying to figure out how they were going to do it. And it's reality tv...stupidity is the entire basis of the whole format. :D

:D

I wasn't really implying that you were suggesting this, more commenting on the stupidity of the situation we're facing. And yeah, well, it is reality TV... :)

FM