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st.cronin
03-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Any college hockey fans here? The postseason is now under way. I'll be attending at least one of the Badger's games this weekend - they're hosting U Alaska-Anchorage in a best two of three series.

KevinNU7
03-07-2005, 01:36 PM
A good amount of posters from USCHO.com post here in FOFC (mainly in the hattrick forum) so there are a decent amount of College Hockey fans.

I'm a Northeastern University alumn, I'll be up in NEw Hampshire for game 3 of their series with UNH if they make it that far.

DeToxRox
03-07-2005, 02:07 PM
Michigan vs Notre Dame in a 3 game series this weekend.

Not too concerned, being Notre Dame won 5 or 6 games all year.

Michigan should run through the CCHA tourney, with the only possible speed bump being MSU or OSU.

Can't wait for the Frozen Four.

sovereignstar
03-07-2005, 02:09 PM
Maybe you know where Kessell decided to go?

*ducks*

KevinNU7
03-07-2005, 02:16 PM
Maybe you know where Kessell decided to go?

*ducks*
lol

st.cronin
03-07-2005, 02:27 PM
The general feeling in Madison is that the Gophers needed him more.

sovereignstar
03-07-2005, 02:32 PM
The general feeling in Madison is that the Gophers needed him more.

Correct, if by "Gophers needed him more" you mean that they need him more to make a mega-line of Potoulny-Kessell-Wheeler.

DeToxRox
03-07-2005, 02:56 PM
Jack Johnson is going to Michigan.

Forget about Kessel, Double J is the best defensive prospect in North America.

RPI-Fan
03-07-2005, 04:40 PM
This is a sad, sad day for RPI hockey.

In a thread that says "the postseason is about to get underway", RPI's post-season is over.

:mad:

RPI-Fan
03-07-2005, 05:13 PM
But an exciting win for Bruno. A surprising season considering we lost Danis to graduation...

Just curious... did you go to the games?

Painful to watch just how horrendously bad our goaltending was.

Klinglerware
03-07-2005, 05:13 PM
This is a sad, sad day for RPI hockey.

In a thread that says "the postseason is about to get underway", RPI's post-season is over.

:mad:

But an exciting win for Bruno. A surprising season considering we lost Danis to graduation...

Klinglerware
03-07-2005, 05:26 PM
Just curious... did you go to the games?

Painful to watch just how horrendously bad our goaltending was.

I didn't go to any games this season (I'm not in Providence as often as when I was a student), but I do pay attention. That first game did look pretty horrifying from a defensive standpoint. In the typical year, this is where Brown chokes in OT after 3 periods of tight defense.

Again, this is bonus time in my mind--I expected a rebuilding year this season...

Cap Ologist
03-07-2005, 06:16 PM
So why did you want to play college hockey?

Sublime 2
03-08-2005, 01:15 AM
I'll be going to atleast the first BU vs Providence game.

BishopMVP
03-08-2005, 01:54 AM
I might go to one of the UMass-BC games, see if Winer can steal a game like he almost did in November, making over 50 saves and tying BC 2-2. Losing Pock, Kuiper and Mauldin everyone knew it would be a bit of a rebuilding year, but once Anderson and Summerfield went down, among others, it just got kind of ugly. Some bright spots in the way the freshman have played, and the next two classes coming in are touted as easily the best in UMass' short history, so within the next two years we should be competing for the top 3-4 spots in Hockey East and the NCAA bid we nearly got last year.

Cards4ever
03-08-2005, 10:54 PM
The general feeling in Madison is that the Gophers needed him more.


Funny stuff! Kohl Center trips should be interesting for the Gophers the next couple of years. With the landing of Kessel, the Gophers have without a doubt the No 1 recruiting class.

Now back to this season, the WCHA has the best teams in the country and the Final 5 here in St Paul should be pretty good hockey. Wouldn't it be something for Michigan to get dumped out of the NCAA's by Minnesota at Mariucci this year?!

Cards4ever
03-08-2005, 10:58 PM
Dola, College Hockey seeds it's tournament with something called Pairwise, all teams know in the beginning what the formula is and how they need to perform to get into the tourney(unlike other NCAA sports ;)).

Here are the current standings:

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr.php

1t Colorado College 28 2t 26-7-3 .7639 1 .5971
1t Denver 28 6 24-9-2 .7143 2 .5871
1t Boston College 28 5 21-6-7 .7206 3 .5815
4 Michigan 26 2t 26-7-3 .7639 6 .5758
5t Minnesota 24 10 24-12-1 .6622 7 .5733
5t Cornell 24 1 22-4-3 .8103 4 .5809
7 Harvard 22 9 18-8-3 .6724 9 .5592
8t Ohio State 19 4 24-8-4 .7222 12 .5541
8t Wisconsin 19 13t 21-11-4 .6389 10 .5584
8t Boston University 19 13t 21-11-4 .6389 5 .5781
8t North Dakota 19 21 18-13-5 .5694 13 .5535
12 Dartmouth 18 17 19-11-2 .6250 19 .5324*
13 New Hampshire 17 8 22-9-5 .6806 8 .5666
14t Northern Michigan 16 11 20-9-7 .6528 20 .5310
14t Maine 16 20 18-11-7 .5972 11 .5552
16t Mass.-Lowell 15 12 20-10-4 .6471 14 .5488
16t Colgate 15 7 22-9-3 .6912 15 .5394
18t Vermont 12 18 19-11-4 .6176 16 .5358
18t Michigan State 12 26t 17-15-4 .5278 17 .5351
18t Minnesota-Duluth 12 28t 15-15-6 .5000 22 .5174
21t Minnesota State 9 35 13-17-6 .4444 21 .5248
21t Northeastern 9 31t 15-16-5 .4861 18 .5350
23 St. Lawrence 7 28t 17-17-2 .5000 24 .5093
24t Bowling Green 5 23t 16-14-4 .5294 25 .5068
24t St. Cloud State 5 40 14-21-3 .4079 27 .5048
26 Brown 4 22 16-12-3 .5645 26 .5066
27 Nebraska-Omaha 3 26t 17-15-4 .5278 29 .5009
28 Alabama-Huntsville 2 15 17-9-4 .6333 28 .5043
29t Miami 1 31t 15-16-5 .4861 30 .5004
29t Bemidji State 1 16 21-12-1 .6324 23 .5107

st.cronin
03-08-2005, 11:37 PM
I think Denver is by far the best team I've seen this year, with CC second. I don't know much about the teams out east.

st.cronin
03-08-2005, 11:39 PM
"dola"

Badger season ticket holder here... I've seen most of the WCHA teams, plus Michigan, Mich. State, Mercyhurst, Yale, and Ferris State.

Cards4ever
03-09-2005, 08:02 PM
I think Denver is by far the best team I've seen this year, with CC second. I don't know much about the teams out east.


And of course you aren't counting the Gophers who took 3 out of 4 from the BADgers right? :rolleyes:

RPI-Fan
03-09-2005, 08:10 PM
And of course you aren't counting the Gophers who took 3 out of 4 from the BADgers right? :rolleyes:

You don't seriously think Minnesota has done enough to warrant talk of best in the country, do you?

Now, don't get me wrong, you guys have a hell of a team, but you have to beat the man to be the man, and Denver is the man, right now.



Also, if there's one positive thing for RPI this year, it's that we got a Russian kid (Andrei Uradov) coming in next year - 6'1/205 lb. forward, who was recruited by Denver! -- Gwozskicki (however it's spelled) doesn't recruit chumps, so I'm hoping he might be able to play some hockey.:eek:

DeToxRox
03-09-2005, 08:10 PM
I still stand by Jack Johnson.

Kessell might be the best of the lot, but Jē is top three.

Our problem next year is goaltending, because I can't see Al staying around one more.

The time is now for the Wolvs.

sovereignstar
03-09-2005, 08:17 PM
I still stand by Jack Johnson.

So you're saying your opinion hasn't changed on said prospect in two days? Shocking. I wonder if he had a chance to get a bite to eat in between your last posts.
:)

Mr. Wednesday
03-09-2005, 08:19 PM
Michigan vs Notre Dame in a 3 game series this weekend.

Not too concerned, being Notre Dame won 5 or 6 games all year.More to the point, the Irish haven't won since the new year and have given only intermittent effort of late. I'd be surprised if they don't lay down for UM to bring the season to a merciful end.

RPI-Fan
03-09-2005, 09:32 PM
More to the point, the Irish haven't won since the new year ...

It is embarassing to say, but this is wrong.

:rolleyes:

Cards4ever
03-09-2005, 10:00 PM
You don't seriously think Minnesota has done enough to warrant talk of best in the country, do you?

Now, don't get me wrong, you guys have a hell of a team, but you have to beat the man to be the man, and Denver is the man, right now.



Also, if there's one positive thing for RPI this year, it's that we got a Russian kid (Andrei Uradov) coming in next year - 6'1/205 lb. forward, who was recruited by Denver! -- Gwozskicki (however it's spelled) doesn't recruit chumps, so I'm hoping he might be able to play some hockey.:eek:

Last year Denver won the title, but what does that have to do with this season?

If Minnesota beats Denver at the WCHA Final Five, They will be ahead of them in Pairwise and that is what determines who the best teams are this season. Go look at the comparisons and see what they say.


And what Jack Johnson has to do with Phil Kessel I have no idea, they are both fine prospects, but overall Kessel is the one every coach would take if they had to choose to between the two.

st.cronin
03-09-2005, 10:08 PM
No knock on Minny - Irmen/Potulny is one of the better forward combos IMO. Denver's just deeper, especially on the blueline, and I think their goaltending is a lot better. CC's McHeliny is just awesome as well. I wasn't overly impressed with Briggs, and then isn't he hurt? I thought I heard he was out for the year. It's no knock on the Gophers to say that Denver and CC are the class of the WCHA this year.

Cards4ever
03-09-2005, 10:16 PM
I think the Gophers are better then Denver, even if they finished ahead of Minnesota. If Briggs didn't impress you during the first half of the season, I don't know what you were watching. He is hurt now, he should be back in time for the Frozen Four and with a Regional at Mariucci, they have a good chance to get there.

CC has one advantage over in Minnesota in that they have a Senior Goaltender, but, they are pretty much a one line team, if you can stabilize that top line, you can beat them.

st.cronin
03-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Well, I guess we'll find out... I don't expect the Badgers to go far, either, but that's why they play the games.

Cards4ever
03-09-2005, 10:23 PM
We will know a lot more after the Final Five, if Minnesota gets the #3 overall seed, they are going to be tough, a creampuff in the first game and then home ice in the regional final will be tough to overcome.

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2005, 12:11 AM
It is embarassing to say, but this is wrong.

:rolleyes:Doh! You're right.

They haven't won since beating RPI in the first series of the year. :eek:

Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2005, 12:11 AM
Dola, in fairness to RPI, the Irish hadn't started mailing it in on a regular basis at that point, they were still trying.

DeToxRox
03-10-2005, 12:44 AM
I think the funniest story is at Michigan State ..

A.J. Thelen (having a HORRID year) was kicked off of the team by Comley because players came to Comley to tell him Thelen had been drinking.

Thelen comes out and says it's happened before but when the other guys did it, nothing happened to those guys.

Bad news in East Lansing.

BishopMVP
03-10-2005, 04:08 AM
A.J. Thelen (having a HORRID year) was kicked off of the team by Comley because players came to Comley to tell him Thelen had been drinking.

Thelen comes out and says it's happened before but when the other guys did it, nothing happened to those guys.

Bad news in East Lansing.College athletes drinking :eek: !!!!

There's gotta be something more to this (like Smoker a few years ago) or else his teammates are jackasses.

st.cronin
03-10-2005, 09:08 AM
The story I read makes Thelen look like a problem child - it sounds like the entire team and his coach just basically hated him.

Cards4ever
03-10-2005, 12:55 PM
The MSU program is a mess, I wonder if Comley will survive. AJ is underage which is part of the issue and since he got drafted has been way too cocky. He even got left off the WJC roster. Hopefully he gets back to earth and starts playing like he can.

st. cronin, Briggs has been cleared to play this weekend also, his hand has healed and stated in the paper today that his knee was more of the issue.

st.cronin
03-10-2005, 01:31 PM
I don't even know who Minny's playing this weekend... but this year it seems like every team in the WCHA is dangerous. Only thing that would shock me is *both* CC and Denver losing this weekend.

And now a real argument... Who's the best goalie in the WCHA?

Cards4ever
03-10-2005, 07:11 PM
Minnesota is playing Mankato this weekend, look for JJ in nets this weekend, Briggs at the Final 5.

Best goalie? I like a few, Briggs, Bruckler, and McElhinney. I'm sure you'll discount Briggs, but, remember the system that Minnesota plays, is a lot more wide open then most and leaves him to fend for himself quite often.

Cards4ever
03-11-2005, 10:09 PM
Gophers with a 7-2 win tonight, and I see Wisco beat Anchorage 5-4, with CC and Denver just underway.

On another note, Bloomington Girls Mites 5 Minnetonka Stingers 5 :D

st.cronin
03-11-2005, 11:36 PM
Well that was hairy. Brian Elliot to the rescue!

st.cronin
03-11-2005, 11:59 PM
Bernd Bruckler apparently pulled himself from net tonight ... it's been an up and down year for him, quite frankly.

Cards4ever
03-13-2005, 12:35 AM
Gophers sweep!

Cards4ever
03-13-2005, 10:15 PM
I see the BADgers got through Anchorage tonight, should be a interesting game on Thursday night.

st.cronin
03-13-2005, 10:27 PM
Fantastic performance for Bruckler tonight! For those who don't follow, Bernd Bruckler, senior, is one of the greatest goalies in the history of Wisconsin hockey. Wisconsin is known as 'Goalie U' for it's tendency to produce great goaltenders... Mike Richter is probably the most famous. As a junior, Bruckler had maybe the greatest single season by a Wisconsin goaltender ever, taking a quite poor team to within one game of the Frozen Four. Bruckler is beloved by all hockey fans in Madison (and not just for his play on the ice); he has the same immunity from criticism that, say, Derek Jeter has.

This season, he didn't play quite at the same level. He was brilliant at times, but was rather ordinary over the last few weeks... and then on Friday, he just basically melted down, pulling himself from the game after giving up four goals. The team rallied without him, and won the game... Saturday night, Brian Elliot, sophomore and presumed #1 goaltender next year, started in goal and played well, but the team lost, 2-1, setting up a 3rd game tonight - Bruckler's last game in front of the Badger faithful, with a trip to the WCHA Final Five on the line.

We fell behind 1-0 after a period, but Bruckler played brilliant for the last forty minutes, and Pavelski and Burish scored goals ... a huge, emotional win for Madison!

Cards4ever
03-14-2005, 05:42 PM
Fantastic performance for Bruckler tonight! For those who don't follow, Bernd Bruckler, senior, is one of the greatest goalies in the history of Wisconsin hockey. Wisconsin is known as 'Goalie U' for it's tendency to produce great goaltenders... Mike Richter is probably the most famous. As a junior, Bruckler had maybe the greatest single season by a Wisconsin goaltender ever, taking a quite poor team to within one game of the Frozen Four. Bruckler is beloved by all hockey fans in Madison (and not just for his play on the ice); he has the same immunity from criticism that, say, Derek Jeter has.

This season, he didn't play quite at the same level. He was brilliant at times, but was rather ordinary over the last few weeks... and then on Friday, he just basically melted down, pulling himself from the game after giving up four goals. The team rallied without him, and won the game... Saturday night, Brian Elliot, sophomore and presumed #1 goaltender next year, started in goal and played well, but the team lost, 2-1, setting up a 3rd game tonight - Bruckler's last game in front of the Badger faithful, with a trip to the WCHA Final Five on the line.

We fell behind 1-0 after a period, but Bruckler played brilliant for the last forty minutes, and Pavelski and Burish scored goals ... a huge, emotional win for Madison!


Now if the Kessel Rejects can just beat UND. :D

Cards4ever
03-18-2005, 12:18 AM
Well, Wisco is in trouble, have to see how the PWR shake out, but they may be on the outside looking in after tonights fiasco.

ice4277
03-18-2005, 09:18 AM
The MSU program is a mess, I wonder if Comley will survive.
I heard a rumor that some of the more 'influential' boosters have threatened to withold donations to the program unless he leaves, but I have doubts about that. The way MSU is playing now, though, he might be finally turning things around.

I'll be going to the CCHA finals on Saturday, I'm looking forward to that. I haven't made it there in about five years.

st.cronin
03-18-2005, 10:34 AM
Well, Wisco is in trouble, have to see how the PWR shake out, but they may be on the outside looking in after tonights fiasco.

Fiasco? That's not fair - they lost a close game to a good team. If only Likens could have stayed out of the box...

It seems unlikely they'll make the tourney now. Which is ok, the way they've played down the stretch, they definitely don't deserve it.

Mr. Wednesday
03-18-2005, 10:55 AM
I think their fate depends a lot on what happens in other tournaments. I ran a whole lot of scenarios trying to nail the USCHO contest (and failed when I couldn't knock either Harvard or Maine out of the tournament). I think even in some of the cases where I had North Dakota win, Wisconsin was still in the field as an at-large, and this was in scenarios where I was trying to stress the bubble as much as possible.

Sublime 2
03-18-2005, 11:41 AM
Heading to the Hockey East semis tonight at the new Gahden. I expect BC to beat Maine unless Howard shuts them down, which he is fully capable of doing. Now the game I really care about is the BU vs UNH game. I'm bringing my biotch to the game too and she goes to UNH so i sure would love to see BU stomp the University of No Hardware; however the chances of that happening seem slim. They've split the season series 1-1-1, so it should be a great game. UNH is fully capable of lighting the lamp numerous times, hopefully the BU defense and Curry can keep them at bay.

Predictions:
BC over Maine 3-1
Heart says BU over UNH 4-3
Head says UNH over BU 5-4

Mr. Wednesday
03-18-2005, 01:08 PM
Anybody but BU. :p

Cards4ever
03-18-2005, 01:24 PM
Fiasco? That's not fair - they lost a close game to a good team. If only Likens could have stayed out of the box...

It seems unlikely they'll make the tourney now. Which is ok, the way they've played down the stretch, they definitely don't deserve it.


Life isn't fair, and when all you have to do is win and your in, that's a fiasco.


From what I'm hearing Vermont is the key to their future. If Vermont wins one of their games, Bucky might be out looking in. If all the favorites win, then you should be in.

Cards4ever
03-19-2005, 01:18 AM
Tonight the fiasco belongs to the Gophers who now must beat UND in the 3rd place game and hope Denver wins to secure the 1 seed at Mariucci, otherwise it looks like CC comes here for the regional.

On another note, after the game Tyler Hirsch(MN leading scorer) insists on getting a puck and has the zamboni drivers close the door then goes hard for the net and crashes into it, afterwards he gets up, skates to center ice and leaves the stick there.

Mr. Wednesday
03-19-2005, 03:06 AM
Per a post on USCHO (and I'll trust that the guy has run a comprehensive set of scenarios), Wisconsin is in. So is Ohio State. The last at-large bid comes down to Colgate, Vermont, or Dartmouth.

st.cronin
03-19-2005, 08:21 AM
God I love hockey.

ice4277
03-19-2005, 09:07 AM
Michigan/Ohio State should be a good CCHA Final, its nice to see that the two best teams in the conference, by far, will be playing in the title game.

Cards4ever
03-19-2005, 10:53 AM
Per a post on USCHO (and I'll trust that the guy has run a comprehensive set of scenarios), Wisconsin is in. So is Ohio State. The last at-large bid comes down to Colgate, Vermont, or Dartmouth.


The right combinations came through for Wisco, but, they also are going to be placed in a very tough regional.

st.cronin
03-19-2005, 12:19 PM
There's an article on uscho saying there's two spots left: AHA tourney winner auto bid (Mercyhurst or Quinnipiac) and one bid for either Colgate, Dartmouth, or Vermont. Wisconsin and Ohio State are apparently officially in. I'm guessing the other 12 are CC, Denver, Minnesota, North Dakota... Boston College, Cornell, Michigan, New Hampshire... Harvard, Boston University, and Maine... and, of course, Bernidji State Beavers. I guess Michigan State is out. CC, Denver, Boston College and either Minnesota or Cornell are likely #1 seeds. Good God the WCHA is strong this year.

Tekneek
03-19-2005, 12:27 PM
Woo. Ohio State! Gotta support the only Division I player who resides in Georgia: Dave Caruso. There will be another one suiting up for North Dakota next year.

Cards4ever
03-19-2005, 02:21 PM
Good God the WCHA is strong this year.

Ah, something we both can agree on 100%! Without a doubt the best College Hockey is in the WCHA.

st.cronin
03-19-2005, 02:37 PM
No idea if he's playing today or in a straitjacket, but Tyler Hirsch apparently went insane after the game last night.

http://www.gopherpucklive.com/video/HirschCC.mpg

sovereignstar
03-19-2005, 02:46 PM
No idea if he's playing today or in a straitjacket, but Tyler Hirsch apparently went insane after the game last night.

http://www.gopherpucklive.com/video/HirschCC.mpg

Just as Cards mentioned above. Appears he was a little peeved that the Gophers were shutout.

Cards4ever
03-19-2005, 02:54 PM
Hirsch is not playing today, Coaches decision.

Cards4ever
03-19-2005, 09:29 PM
Cornell and Michigan win their conference tourneys, Denver leads CC 1-0 in the third in the WCHA.

Cards4ever
03-20-2005, 03:05 AM
This is the latest guess, at 10 we will find out the official seedings.

Final Brackets
(3-2-1 bonus)
Minneapolis
Maine vs. Minnesota
Wisconsin vs. Cornell

Grand Rapids
Bemidji State vs. Colorado College
Ohio State vs. North Dakota

Amherst
Mercyhurst vs. Boston College
Harvard vs. New Hampshire

Worcester
Colgate vs. Denver
Boston University vs. Michigan

Conference Breakdown
WCHA - 5
HEA - 4
ECACHL - 3
CCHA - 2
AHA - 1
CHA - 1

st.cronin
03-20-2005, 10:21 AM
Game on baby
1st Round matchup - Wisconsin vs. Michigan in Grand Rapids on Friday

Cards4ever
03-20-2005, 11:11 AM
The Brackets
East: Mercyhurst vs. BC/BU vs. North Dakota
Northeast: Bemidji St vs. Denver/Harvard vs. UNH
Midwest: Colgate vs. CC/Wisconsin vs. Michigan
West: Maine vs. Minnesota/Ohio State vs. Cornell

Mr. Wednesday
03-20-2005, 09:20 PM
And the committee has set off a firestorm by taking extreme advantage of their latitude in seeding to gift Denver with the easier first-round game.

Buccaneer
03-20-2005, 09:45 PM
Was disappointed CC lost to Denver, 1-0 but hopefully the competition of the WCHA would gear them up for a good run to the Frozen Four. As usual (or seems like), it's Michigan that stands in the way. Go Tigers.

RPI-Fan
03-20-2005, 09:52 PM
Was disappointed CC lost to Denver, 1-0 but hopefully the competition of the WCHA would gear them up for a good run to the Frozen Four. As usual (or seems like), it's Michigan that stands in the way. Go Tigers.

Colgate is not going to be an easy matchup. The ECAC had a chance to get <b>five</b> teams into the NCAA's heading into this weekend. 'Gate was the 3rd best team in a pretty decent conference this season - they have good and sometimes great goaltending, smart defenseman, and a couple of quick, tricky forwards.

Given that CC will almost surely overlook them, could be a chance for 'Gate to get a nice victory.

sovereignstar
03-20-2005, 10:25 PM
Colgate is not going to be an easy matchup. The ECAC had a chance to get <b>five</b> teams into the NCAA's heading into this weekend. 'Gate was the 3rd best team in a pretty decent conference this season - they have good and sometimes great goaltending, smart defenseman, and a couple of quick, tricky forwards.

Given that CC will almost surely overlook them, could be a chance for 'Gate to get a nice victory.

Five teams? Like the WCHA did. Colgate isn't in the same league. It's like Illinois squaring off against UAB.

RPI-Fan
03-20-2005, 10:39 PM
Five teams? Like the WCHA did. Colgate isn't in the same league. It's like Illinois squaring off against UAB.

I'm not saying the ECAC was as good as the WCHA.

I'm saying the conference is severely underrated, and Colgate is a good hockey team that has some solid senior leadership who could pull an upset against a CC team that will probably overlook 'Gate.

I'm not really stating anything outrageous in there...

sovereignstar
03-20-2005, 10:43 PM
Alright alright. Like any tourney game, a certain outcome is never assured, but this CC team is damn good. Denver is equally scary.

Cards4ever
03-20-2005, 11:07 PM
I'm not saying the ECAC was as good as the WCHA.

I'm saying the conference is severely underrated, and Colgate is a good hockey team that has some solid senior leadership who could pull an upset against a CC team that will probably overlook 'Gate.

I'm not really stating anything outrageous in there...


CC is going to kick the hell out of Colgate. Have you seen them play? I haven't seen anyone in the ECAC that can beat them. Of course the whole team could come down with salmonella and then yes, Colgate could beat them.

st.cronin
03-21-2005, 12:22 PM
I haven't seen any of the eastern teams. Denver is in a class by itself, imo. CC is very good as well, and has better goaltending than DU. McIlhenney is the best goalie I've seen this year.

RPI-Fan
03-21-2005, 12:23 PM
CC is going to kick the hell out of Colgate. Have you seen them play? I haven't seen anyone in the ECAC that can beat them. Of course the whole team could come down with salmonella and then yes, Colgate could beat them.

How many times have you seen the ECAC play? ECAC teams don't blow you away with stats - they (Cornell in particular) play dominating defensive hockey. If you don't think Cornell is capable of beating CC you're crazy. McKee can beat anybody, any day, any time.

RPI-Fan
03-21-2005, 12:24 PM
I haven't seen any of the eastern teams. Denver is in a class by itself, imo. CC is very good as well, and has better goaltending than DU. McIlhenney is the best goalie I've seen this year.

Obviously you haven't seen Harvard or Cornell play this year, then.

st.cronin
03-21-2005, 12:25 PM
Obviously you haven't seen Harvard or Cornell play this year, then.

Right ... I said that. The only eastern team I've seen this year is Yale, unless you count Michigan/Mich. State (they are in the eastern time zone).

RPI-Fan
03-21-2005, 12:29 PM
Right ... I said that. The only eastern team I've seen this year is Yale, unless you count Michigan/Mich. State (they are in the eastern time zone).

There is really no way anybody can even consider somebody other than McKee being the best goaltender in the country.

st.cronin
03-21-2005, 12:37 PM
His numbers are pretty sick, I grant you that. Considering Minnesota's spiral lately, you have to like Cornell's chances of making the Frozen Four.

I still say Denver has to be the prohibitive favorite. Defending champs, plus they won both regular season and tournament titles in the toughest conference in the country. They are amazingly deep at every position. What other team has TWO goalies that fans are equally confident in?

RPI-Fan
03-21-2005, 12:42 PM
His numbers are pretty sick, I grant you that. Considering Minnesota's spiral lately, you have to like Cornell's chances of making the Frozen Four.

I still say Denver has to be the prohibitive favorite. Defending champs, plus they won both regular season and tournament titles in the toughest conference in the country. They are amazingly deep at every position. What other team has TWO goalies that fans are equally confident in?

I agree that Denver is definitely the favorite. The powerplay for Denver is just unbelievable.

Re: Goaltending, I only saw Fischer once or twice but I was not impressed. Mannino on the other hand I liked alot -- I guess I must haver just caught Fischer on bad nights.

st.cronin
03-21-2005, 12:48 PM
My impressions of Fisher is that he's a little raw on form, but amazingly athletic. Mannino is more polished. Both can dominate. Denver's system puts a lot more pressure on the goalie than normal; both goalies are, imo, better than their stats.

Cards4ever
03-21-2005, 11:19 PM
How many times have you seen the ECAC play? ECAC teams don't blow you away with stats - they (Cornell in particular) play dominating defensive hockey. If you don't think Cornell is capable of beating CC you're crazy. McKee can beat anybody, any day, any time.


I've seen enough to know that Colgate will NOT beat CC, I'm willing to wager too, how about you?

Cornell is going to have problems on the big sheet too, they are going to have to get off to a lead and then hold on.

Cards4ever
03-21-2005, 11:48 PM
Cornell-Non Conference
Fri 10/29/2004 W 7 Army (nc) 1
Sat 10/30/2004 W 7 Sacred Heart (nc) 1
Fri 11/12/2004 T 1 @ Michigan State (nc) 1 ot
Sun 11/14/2004 L 0 @ Michigan State (nc) 2
Tue 12/28/2004 L 2 vs Boston College (nc) 4
Wed 12/29/2004 W 4 vs Maine (nc) 3


Now that's a impressive 3-2-1

CC-Non-conference
Fri 10/15/2004 W 4 Union (nc) 2
Sat 10/16/2004 W 4 Union (nc) 2
Fri 10/22/2004 W 4 @ Air Force (nc) 1
Sat 10/23/2004 W 7 Quinnipiac (nc) 2
Fri 11/26/2004 W 3 Massachusetts (nc) 1
Sat 11/27/2004 W 7 Boston University (nc) 3
Wed 12/29/2004 W 4 vs Miami (nc) 3
Thu 12/30/2004 T 2 @ Ohio State (nc) 2 ot

7-0-1, tell me, who is the better team?

Mr. Wednesday
03-22-2005, 01:56 AM
If the question is whether CC or Cornell, is the better team, this satisfies me:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><THEAD><TR class=stats-header><TH scope=col align=left rowSpan=2>Rk</TH><TH scope=col align=left rowSpan=2>Team</TH><TH scope=col align=left colSpan=2>KRACH</TH><TH scope=col align=left colSpan=4>Record</TH><TH scope=col align=left colSpan=2>Sched Strength</TH></TR><TR class=stats-header><TH scope=col align=left>Rating</TH><TH scope=col align=left>RRWP</TH><TH scope=col align=left>Rk</TH><TH scope=col align=left>W-L-T</TH><TH scope=col align=left>Win %</TH><TH scope=col align=left>Win Ratio</TH><TH scope=col align=left>Rk</TH><TH scope=col align=left>SOS</TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR class=stats-row0><TD>1</TD><TD scope=row>Colorado College</TD><TD>1031.</TD><TD>.8677</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>29-8-3</TD><TD>.7625</TD><TD>3.211</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>321.1</TD></TR><TR class=stats-row1><TD>2</TD><TD scope=row>Denver</TD><TD>975.8</TD><TD>.8619</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>28-9-2</TD><TD>.7436</TD><TD>2.900</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>336.5</TD></TR><TR class=stats-row0><TD>3</TD><TD scope=row>Boston College</TD><TD>642.5</TD><TD>.8117</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>25-6-7</TD><TD>.7500</TD><TD>3.000</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>214.2</TD></TR><TR class=stats-row1><TD>4</TD><TD scope=row>Minnesota</TD><TD>620.4</TD><TD>.8070</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>26-14-1</TD><TD>.6463</TD><TD>1.828</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>339.5</TD></TR><TR class=stats-row0><TD>5</TD><TD scope=row>Michigan</TD><TD>619.7</TD><TD>.8069</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>30-7-3</TD><TD>.7875</TD><TD>3.706</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>167.2</TD></TR><TR class=stats-row1><TD>6</TD><TD scope=row>Cornell</TD><TD>592.6</TD><TD>.8008</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>26-4-3</TD><TD>.8333</TD><TD>5.000</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>118.5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

st.cronin
03-22-2005, 09:18 AM
I think big ice/small ice is overrated. If you can play hockey, you can play hockey.

I also don't think there's any question that the WCHA is the best conference in college hockey. CC and DU are the class of the land.

Cards4ever
03-22-2005, 01:49 PM
I think big ice/small ice is overrated. If you can play hockey, you can play hockey.

I also don't think there's any question that the WCHA is the best conference in college hockey. CC and DU are the class of the land.

Teams are usually built for the ice they play on, Minnesota doesn't have all of those small mobile D-men for no reason.

When you look at a team like Cornell that likes to pack em in and play along the boards, it makes it more difficult to play on the big sheet. As I said above, if they can get a couple of goals on somebody, they are going to be tough to beat. If they get behind and have to open it up, they may be in trouble.

RPI-Fan
03-22-2005, 02:46 PM
Teams are usually built for the ice they play on, Minnesota doesn't have all of those small mobile D-men for no reason.

When you look at a team like Cornell that likes to pack em in and play along the boards, it makes it more difficult to play on the big sheet. As I said above, if they can get a couple of goals on somebody, they are going to be tough to beat. If they get behind and have to open it up, they may be in trouble.

Seems like a pretty fair assessment.

Sublime 2
03-22-2005, 10:12 PM
BU draws North Dakota in Wussta in the first round. Haven't seen any ND hockey this year, anyone got a quick rundown? It helps that BU is playing in Mass, though i'm not sure how much it'll help against ND. BU is coming into the NCAA's w/ absolutely NO momentum after the drubbing they took against UNH last friday. Had to be the worst game I've seen Borque play and the number 1 line played like ass also. Curry had no chance against the UNH forwards. I'd love to see a second round game between BU and BC it would be spectacular to knock those collar poppin' Eagles out of the NCAA's. But I definetly think i'm looking way too far ahead. GO BU!!

Cards4ever
03-23-2005, 12:27 AM
UND is a skating team, Genoway, Spirtko, Zajac and Murray are the offensive stars, though Murray has been banged up. They have big D-men and Green will take some dumb penalties at times. I'm guessing they will play Parise in nets, he likes to go to his knees and he has huge pads. They are playing well as of late and they lost Bina last weekend to a bad hit(he had surgery and a vertabrae was taken out), so, they do also have that inspiration going too.

Don't take penalties, take advantage of the PP's and you have a very good chance to win.

Here are there stats:

http://www.uscho.com/stats/team-overall.php?season=20042005&team=80&gender=m

Sublime 2
03-23-2005, 11:56 AM
Don't take penalties, take advantage of the PP's and you have a very good chance to win.




If that's the case we could be in trouble. We had a lot of stupid penalties last game. I think UNH scored 4 of their 5 a PP, 3 of their goals on their own PP and then scored a short hander on our PP. It was an ugly game.

st.cronin
03-23-2005, 12:09 PM
UND is a hot team right now. They don't score a lot of goals, but they have quality blueliners and can really get in a team's head defensively. Zajac is real, real good. Matt Greene is the kind of huge physical defender that every team wants.

Dr. Sak
03-23-2005, 05:29 PM
Go Lakers beat the Eagles! I know it is a long shot but what the heck.

Cards4ever
03-23-2005, 06:13 PM
UND is a hot team right now. They don't score a lot of goals, but they have quality blueliners and can really get in a team's head defensively. Zajac is real, real good. Matt Greene is the kind of huge physical defender that every team wants.

Hmmm, one of their weaknesses is not having a offensive D-man. Sure they are big and they can hit, but, that is also why they take a lot of penalties.

I like BU in this matchup.

Cards4ever
03-25-2005, 06:42 PM
CC 6 Colgate 5

Didn't watch any of this game, it wasn't available in my area, so, not sure what happened here. I'm sure that some will be happy that Toothpaste U was able to keep it close and will remind me of it.

BC 5 Mercyhurst 4

Watched a decent portion of this game, Mercyhurst kept it close and the goalie played out of his mind stopping 50 some shots. Mercyhurst had a few chances to tie, but just couldn't get it past the BC goalie.

On the Womens front, Harvard looks like they are in the Finals with a 4-1 lead late in the 3rd. Minnesota plays Dartmouth in a bit to see who plays Harvard for the Championship.

Cards4ever
03-25-2005, 10:28 PM
UND 4 BU 0 setting up a UND-BC Matchup
Michigan 4 Wisco 1 setting up a Michigan-CC Matchup

Womens Hockey
Minnesota 7 Dartmouth 2 setting up a Minnesota-Harvard Matchup for the National Championship on Sunday.

Mr. Wednesday
03-26-2005, 01:54 AM
Nice to see BU going out with a whimper. :D

st.cronin
03-26-2005, 02:40 PM
Man... Jimmy Howard is awesome... anybody watching Maine/Minnesota?

DeToxRox
03-26-2005, 02:59 PM
Jimmy Howard ... A Wing of the future. Thank God.

Cards4ever
03-27-2005, 11:47 AM
And what about Montoya?! Blowing a 3 goal lead?!

Half the field is set, CC and UND headed to Columbus, could be a WCHA showdown in Ohio!

Denver and UNH playing today and so is Cornell and Minnesota.

Cards4ever
03-27-2005, 06:11 PM
All-WCHA Frozen Four!

UND-Minnesota
CC-Denver

Gophers stared down 2 of the top goalies in the land and beat both in OT!

The WCHA went 8-1 in Regionals this weekend with only Wisco not getting a win. Amazing show by the best Hockey Conference in the Nation.