how you guys like Firefox browers 0.9?

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/


is this browers the exact same browser that in mozilla 1.6?

thanks

IMO, nothing beats it.

I don't use it because I can't get the Google toolbar to function properly in it. Did I miss something, or do they simply not work together?

by far the best

I love it...

It fizzles IE's shizzle fo' sho'!

I'm using Opera 7.5 and have been very pleased with it. Do the Firefox users think it is better than Opera? If so, what are the features that you think make it better?

way better than opera...

download it and try its free too

It has a google search function built in to the toolbar. Not sure what else the Google bar would do that this doesn't do so I can't be more help than that.

Oo ooh, I am only on Firefox 0.8! New build for me!

Is it just me, or do none of the extensions/themes work with 0.9 yet? The themes in particular keep prompting me to open the file with WinRAR, instead of insalling them. Can't figure out a workaround for the life of me.

Also, Tabbrowsing extensions doesn't seem be supported at all yet with 0.9 (judging by the designer's website, 0.8 support was a bit of a fluke). That may be a dealbreaker if it's not upgraded soon. :(

Hmm, I'll stick with 0.8 then.

I got 0.9 working with themes and extensions, including Tabbrowser Extensions after looking through the Firefox forums.

Here's what to do:

1. Uninstall 0.8 via the Windows Control Panel (like you'd uninstall any other app)
2. Delete your old installation directory (manually, or confirm the dialogue to let the uninstaller do it for you)
3. Go to your C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\<your user name>\Phoenix\profiles\default and delete the \extensions directory (don't delete anything else yet).
4. Install 0.9, and say yes to "Import Settings/bookmarks/etc."

0.9 now saves user data to Documents and Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox instead of the Phoenix directory, so you can safely delete the rest of \Phoenix after everything has imported.

Like I said, Tabbrowser extensions work fine, although clicking the "Get more extensions" link from within 0.9 takes you to a new extensions site...you'll have to find the texturizer.net site via Google or the Mozilla site to get it.

I don't use it because I can't get the Google toolbar to function properly in it. Did I miss something, or do they simply not work together?

You can't download the GoogleBar from Google because thats only works with IE, you need to get the FireFix extension to port it over... which is located here:

http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=33&vid=34

What does the google toolbar provide that isn't already built in to firefox?

what you like better firefox 0.9 browser or Mozilla 1.7 browser?

any difference?

I've never used Moz. 1.7, so I can't speak factually to their differences, but from what I understand (which may or may not be correct), Mozilla is more of a bulky suite of apps, whereas Firefox is leaner and faster.

There's probably more to it than that, but I'm the wrong guy to be trying to explain it. :)

What does the google toolbar provide that isn't already built in to firefox?

Lots of options including all of google's engines like images and newsgroups and such built in. Also, it adds the ability to browse the results page by page, and highlights the search terms on a page.

What I want to see are the real improvements over anything else?

Convince me WHY I should try a whole new browser. I've been using Netscape since it came out, I despise IE, but appreciate that CSS works better in it. What I want is a single browser that handles everything without hiccups. allows me to right click and do everything netscape does when I do it, tabbed browsing, popup blockers, and a better bookmark system.

does it do these things? and if so what is the link to the best version?

Tabbed browsing alone is enough to switch to Firefox, imo.

What I want to see are the real improvements over anything else?

Convince me WHY I should try a whole new browser. I've been using Netscape since it came out, I despise IE, but appreciate that CSS works better in it. What I want is a single browser that handles everything without hiccups. allows me to right click and do everything netscape does when I do it, tabbed browsing, popup blockers, and a better bookmark system.

does it do these things? and if so what is the link to the best version?

Firefox is coded by the same crew who had a large part in Netscapes development. they parted ways when aol bought them out, started Mozilla, created the Gecko parsing engine and that led to the Firefox browser. If you use Netscape, youll kick yourself for not using Firefox all this time. it does everything you asked about, and its much faster than IE or Nutscrape.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.9/FirefoxSetup-0.9.exe

I've never used Moz. 1.7, so I can't speak factually to their differences, but from what I understand (which may or may not be correct), Mozilla is more of a bulky suite of apps, whereas Firefox is leaner and faster.

There's probably more to it than that, but I'm the wrong guy to be trying to explain it. :)



yep, but on mozilla you can choose to instaLL the BROWSER only....

if you guys had to pick one browser which one firefox 0.9 or Mozilla 1.7 ?
are they different or the same?

yep, but on mozilla you can choose to instaLL the BROWSER only....

if you guys had to pick one browser which one firefox 0.9 or Mozilla 1.7 ?
are they different or the same?

no question Firefox. the Mozilla group will be the first to tell you to use Firefox, they are no longer working on furthering the Mozilla browser line, its all Firefox from here on out.

IMO Firefox has sucked since version 0.7

IMO Firefox has sucked since version 0.7

What don't you like about it?

IMO Firefox has sucked since version 0.7


Yeah I know... more options, and faster browsing sucks the wang :D.

I tried these alternate browsers once after reading a thread here, and the speed was so slow I had to go back to IE.

firefox would be sweet if i could get a flash plugin. actually, it is sweet but it sucks that i have to open ie to play some flash things.

firefox would be sweet if i could get a flash plugin. actually, it is sweet but it sucks that i have to open ie to play some flash things.
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I think I had a hiccup with the Flash plugin around version 0.5 or so, but not since. I just reinstalled it this morning w/ 0.9. What problems are you having?

What don't you like about it?
Aside from the tabbed browsing which I mentioned in a previous post, I also despise the new download system introduced in version 0.8.

Simms, many times when people link here to some thing where you need a plug in, if I install it, it doesn't even work so I have to open IE to see it. I wish I could find an example off hand, but since it never works for me, I don't pay a lot of attention to the stuff and quickly move on.

Tabbed browsing alone is enough to switch to Firefox, imo.

I agree wholeheartedly. I don't know how I lived without the tabbed browsing. Okay, that might be a little over the top, but it is great.

Simms, many times when people link here to some thing where you need a plug in, if I install it, it doesn't even work so I have to open IE to see it. I wish I could find an example off hand, but since it never works for me, I don't pay a lot of attention to the stuff and quickly move on.

I can't get my friend's band's site to work right in FireFox... (www.wellwishermusic.com)

it's small.. but that isn't the problem, nothing shows up for the things I am talking about and says you need the plug in. But yea, that site is messed.

I get the same problem with Jeeber's site. Nothing shows up on Firebird 0.9, but it works fine on IE.

I get the same problem with Jeeber's site. Nothing shows up on Firebird 0.9, but it works fine on IE.

works fine for me in firefox 0.9

just get shockwave and flash plugin for firefox 0.9 and then u can see that website fine above...

I tried these alternate browsers once after reading a thread here, and the speed was so slow I had to go back to IE.

I always feel like less of a computer user after reading one of these threads. I'm not quite sure what's so horrible about IE.

I'm using firebird 0.7 and quite happy. Why did they change the name to firefox? It looks like the 0.9 means this is the same series.

Any reason to upgrade? I think I skipped firefox because I like firebird so much.

firebird change name to firefox..i recommend getting 0.9 its awesome


firefox is so tweakable too...

i learn this tweak from there chat room...to make the browser for firefox 0.9 go even faster and still safe...

put this in the url box.. about:config hit enter
and put pipe in filter and hit enter

and double click on false and type true..do that for both false u see there..
and now change that 4 you see there and change it to 25...

now whenever you look up web pages it will go fast...

I always feel like less of a computer user after reading one of these threads. I'm not quite sure what's so horrible about IE.
The problem I'd have with IE is that despite having anti-virus, popup blockers and a firewall, I'd still get spyware, and the occasional trojan/virus on my computer because 90% of that crap sneaks in through the mile wide gaps in IE's security. I'd actually wake up with new crap on my computer overnight if I didn't remember to put the internet lock on. Firefox, I don't have to worry as much about that. I just switched over maybe a month ago, and I'm glad I did.

I thought 0.8 was a bit of a step back from 0.7, but 0.9 more than makes up for it. It really feels much, much, much faster than 0.8 to me.

I agree wholeheartedly. I don't know how I lived without the tabbed browsing. Okay, that might be a little over the top, but it is great.


<Idiot Alert>

Umm... what exactly is tabbed browsing?

like so

http://www.jbl.ootp-leagues.com/host/tb.jpg

Ahh, so you can quickly switch b/t multiple open pages w/out tying up your taskbar?

Sounds neat, but I'm not sure I see 'Gee Whiz' in it. Guess I'll have to give it a try.

It's not just a taskbar thing. Having the tabs in a single running instance of the browser also minimizes the hit to your system resources, which means everything runs more smoothly.

It's not just a taskbar thing. Having the tabs in a single running instance of the browser also minimizes the hit to your system resources, which means everything runs more smoothly.
But if I want to have more than one page open at once, this is no good, right?

It's not just a taskbar thing. Having the tabs in a single running instance of the browser also minimizes the hit to your system resources, which means everything runs more smoothly.

Ok, that makes sense. Especially considering the resources used by IE. I'm downloading it now. Thanks!

I tried these alternate browsers once after reading a thread here, and the speed was so slow I had to go back to IE.

That's interesting, back when I was stuck with 56k I was amazed at the speed increase when I switched from IE to at the time I believe it was Phoenix...can't remember because they changed the name so much.

I'm a firefox user as well and I really enjoy it. I'd get it simply for the spyware hassle of Internet Explorer.

If you like the IE engine, but want to have tabbed browsing and pop-up blocking I suggest Avant Browser, MyIE2, or Crazy Browser. They use the IE engine, but add some of the extras that IE doesn't have.

Ok, after reading this thread I d'loaded the new firefox. Seems to be quite a bit faster than IE for me. I've already d'loaded the flash extention are ther any other must have extensions? Am I now more protected against bugs or viruses with firefox as is or do I need additional extensions?

Coincidentally I did get my first trojan today that Norton has ever detected. I was using IE this morning and got a warning from Norton which cleaned it right up. Now with firefox is this truly a thing of the past?

Sweed,

I don't know if you're ever truly safe from a virus, but Firefox is much safer than IE. Did you download the 0.8 or 0.9 version of Firefox? 0.8 is the most used and has the most extensions while 0.9 is the newest and thus doesn't have the library of extensions that 0.8 has. I'm currently using 0.8, but debating moving up to 0.9. Glad to see you're enjoying your new browser.

d'loaded 0.9. Been messing around with it this afternoon and really like it. Just didn't know for sure if I had to get any additional extensions for security.

Some questions for those in the know. In IE I had an option checked to clear out the temp folder when I closed IE. I don't see this option in firefox. Is it in there or and I'm not seeing it or does firefox automatically do this? Or does it really matter?

thanks

Good question Sweed and I'm not sure. I know there's a place to clear out cache in 0.8...TOOLS - OPTIONS - PRIVACY. That may be the equivalent, but I'm not certain.

Good question Sweed and I'm not sure. I know there's a place to clear out cache in 0.8...TOOLS - OPTIONS - PRIVACY. That may be the equivalent, but I'm not certain.

I get a clear button there that I can use manually. IE had a setting to automatically do it when it closed. Don't know how important it really is. One time my IE wouldn't open, can't remember what it did exactly, but I believe it always gave an "error has occured do you want to send to MS" or something like that. Had the local computer guy tell me that it was hanging up on a file name in the temp folder that was too long. Told me to go to restore point a couple of days before the problem occured and then set IE to empty the temp folder on close. Never had the probelm after that.

Don't believe it's a big deal as I'm really liking the browser. Just thought if it was there I'd make sure it was checked.

Thanks for the help.

Sweed,

Here's a link to a discussion regarding tweaking Firefox 0.8. It should still work for 0.9 though. The user Laszlo puts his user.js data and you might try these for a performance tweak.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=53650&postdays=0&postorder=asc&postsperpage=7&start=7&sid=ebf4ed695b91e0bd94a0958d1a7a11d9

A quick update looks like there is now a Google Toolbar extension for those that were wanting that.

http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=33&vid=34

I don't get it. Can someone explain this to me?

I DL'd Firefox today. Seems ok, though on dial-up I'm not sure if it's faster or not. If it were appreciably faster, I'd probably stick with it. Is it faster or is that just a stated feature that really hasn't been tested? Or is it only faster with high-speed internet connections?

So I converted my bookmarks and couldn't even figure out how to sort them. They came over from IE all jumbled up and while I could use the bookmark manager to sort them, I couldn't seem to figure out how to get them sorted in the drop-down list. After about 5 minutes, I realized this was absurd and went back to IE. If something like trying to sort the bookmarks is that obscure, how do they ever expect anyone to want to use it?

Blackie, then enjoy your popup world. :)

Blackie, then enjoy your popup world. :)

Pop-up Blocker works pretty well.

No, seriously, how do you sort the friggin' bookmarks?

i dont know, bookmarking is probably my least favorite firefox feature now that you mention it...

Try the bookmark manager option, it looks easy.

i dont know, bookmarking is probably my least favorite firefox feature now that you mention it...

Try the bookmark manager option, it looks easy.

Grrr....

Actually, there doesn't seem to be a way. Unless you get a particular plug-in.

Now, is it really faster? How?

On my old computer I could tell a huge difference when scrolling a page with a lot of graphics between the two browsers. In firefox, the images would scroll smoothly while in IE they would not. That is the most noticeable difference I have seen.

I see a reasonable increase in speed on most pages I visit after downloading Firefox 0.9. I have yet to get any extensions and would appreciate any advice on 'must have' extensions if anyone has any tips.

In my firefox I just click Bookmarks >> Bookmark Manager. When it opens I just drag and drop the bookmarks where I want then and close it. Seems simple enough, what am I missing?

In my firefox I just click Bookmarks >> Bookmark Manager. When it opens I just drag and drop the bookmarks where I want then and close it. Seems simple enough, what am I missing?

I have a couple of hundred bookmarks. That's take an awful long time.

Actually I don't evenhave to open the bookmark manager... I just click and hold on the link on the bookmark drop down and drag it where I want it and it stay there. I'm pretty sure I have no special bookmark plugin.

I have a couple of hundred bookmarks. That's take an awful long time.
So... you want it to guess correctly how you want them sorted? Isn't that asking a bit much?

So... you want it to guess correctly how you want them sorted? Isn't that asking a bit much?

No, I just want it to import the bookmarks alphabetically. That's not much to ask. But I have the plug-in now that does it. Just a minor oversight on their part.

I'm now testing it for speed. I like the tabs when surfing, though.

Just downloaded First thing I did was go to my league site, and now I see some things I need to fix for it be be viewable on Firefox, damn!

Then came to psot this, I will play around with it, so far so good.

Tabbed browsing alone is enough to switch to Firefox, imo.


amen to that.

Blackie, then enjoy your popup world. :)
IE blocks popups by default in XP SP2, so he doesn't have long to wait.

You guys talked me into trying it. Im on dialup and do notice a difference in speed. Combine that with the tabbed browsing and Im in heaven.

LLLLLOOOOVVVEEE IT!