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cthomer5000
01-12-2004, 11:50 AM
A quote from an ESPN.com article:
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Execution is a good way to describe what Manning did to the Broncos in beating them 41-10 and then going on the road to whip the Chiefs, 38-31. He literally put the Chiefs defense in the electric chair and kept playing with the switch. His offense is being run so efficiently that Hunter Smith hasn't punted in two weeks.

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No, Peyton Manning did not literally do that. If he did, he'd be in jail awaiting trial at this very moment.

Yesterday during the Cheifs game, the broadcaster said that Manning was "literally carving the Chiefs defense to pieces."

Do these people even know the meaning of the word?!

definition from dictionary.com

lit·er·al Being in accordance with, conforming to, or upholding the exact or primary meaning of a word or words.
Word for word; verbatim: a literal translation.
Avoiding exaggeration, metaphor, or embellishment; factual; prosaic: a literal description; a literal mind.
Consisting of, using, or expressed by letters: literal notation.
Conforming or limited to the simplest, nonfigurative, or most obvious meaning of a word or words.

Now get your shit together guys, you're literally killing me. :mad:

rkmsuf
01-12-2004, 11:54 AM
I have an equally hard time when someone leads with "Honestly...blah, blah"

Is this to infer that dishonesty is your norm?

Fonzie
01-12-2004, 11:58 AM
That's a strange phenomenon right there - the word "literal" has come to be used so frequently when people are really expressing that something is "figurative." Those two words are antonyms, for crying out loud!

corbes
01-12-2004, 12:00 PM
That's what happens when you live in Bizarro World: Antonyms become synonyms, and retired pitchers sign new contracts.

Draft Dodger
01-12-2004, 12:01 PM
Those two words are antonyms, for crying out loud!

literally?

cthomer5000
01-12-2004, 12:05 PM
Now I can't get the image out of my mind of Manning literally electricuting the Chiefs defense. Hell, they probably deserve it anyway.

Fonzie
01-12-2004, 01:18 PM
literally?

Honestly!

Easy Mac
01-12-2004, 01:22 PM
In case you didn't notice, sports announcers are complete idiots... if I have to hear Darryl Johnston one more time, I'll kill him. He's always wrong, and he may have played football, but he knows nothing about the game.

sterlingice
01-12-2004, 01:26 PM
Now I can't get the image out of my mind of Manning literally electricuting the Chiefs defense. Hell, they probably deserve it anyway.

I bet you could fill Arrowhead with people paying to see that.

SI

sterlingice
01-12-2004, 01:27 PM
In case you didn't notice, sports announcers are complete idiots... if I have to hear Darryl Johnston one more time, I'll kill him. He's always wrong, and he may have played football, but he knows nothing about the game.

As opposed to say... John Madden, the man I heard say before a game (tho, possibly paraphrased): "The team that will win this game is the one that scores more points"

SI

rkmsuf
01-12-2004, 01:31 PM
As opposed to say... John Madden, the man I heard say before a game (tho, possibly paraphrased): "The team that will win this game is the one that scores more points"

SI

At least that was correct...

Message to CBS...please do not let Shannon Sharpe back in the building...

Samdari
01-12-2004, 01:40 PM
At least that was correct...

Literally!

Now I can't get the image out of my mind of Manning literally electricuting the Chiefs defense. Hell, they probably deserve it anyway.

Would this be referred to as their defensive execution?

rkmsuf
01-12-2004, 01:42 PM
Although Madden did leave out the possiblilty of a forfeit so in literal terms this wasn't correct...

Ksyrup
01-12-2004, 02:13 PM
Words like "literally" and "honestly" are being used in an alternative manner to exaggerate a point. Similar to the 382 exaggerations in this paragraph:

"...sports announcers are complete idiots... if I have to hear Darryl Johnston one more time, I'll kill him. He's always wrong, and he may have played football, but he knows nothing about the game."

Or, the alternative uses of the word "fuck," as recognized by the FCC:


F-bomb, f-word, fudge, freak, frick.

On public airways, these euphemisms no longer are needed as substitutes for the true expletive - as long as no one complains.

Local television and radio stations abide by the indecency standard of the "Seven Dirty Words" issued by the Federal Communications Commission in 1978. The words deemed indecent include cunt, piss, motherfucker, cocksucker, shit, tit and fuck.

The FCC, however, did not fine NBC for airing Bono's acceptance speech at the "Golden Globe Awards" this January, which contained the word "fucking."

NBC's decision to air the speech spurred 217 complaints to the FCC from the Parents Television Council, but according to an October FCC memorandum, Bono's use of the word as an adjective rather than the depiction of a "sexual or excretory" activity does not constitute indecent speech.

KUGS general manager Jamie Hoover said this was a fleeting moment in public radio and television, and Western's station still abides by the indecency standard.

"It's not like it's fair game to say the f-word on the air now," Hoover said. "You really don't know at what point someone gets offended by something."

Hoover said the station does not have the same freedoms that other forms of media do, including the right to editorialize, because it is a noncommercial station and revenue is not based on advertising.

Hoover said the station is much more sensitive to content issues. If a listener files an official indecent-material complaint to the FCC, the agency can fine KUGS as much as $7,000, she said.

Rick Staeb, general manager for Cascade Radio Group, which owns stations such as KGMI, KISM and KPUG, said FCC regulations are appropriate, especially when considering community audiences.

"George Carlin did a whole album on the seven words you can't say on the air," he said. "If someone wanted to hear that album on KISM, and they've certainly had their share of obscene material, we would end up offending more of our listeners than not. The benefits in doing that does not outweigh the risks."

James Baird, Education-Government Television station manager, said he is able to run his station on approximately $80,000 per year, but it would cost him $150,000 to $180,000 per year to broadcast under public access, where he would have more freedom to editorialize.

"Communities don't want to fork out hundreds and thousands of legal (fees)," he said. "Congress did not set up public access as a right."

Baird said EGTV airs material from Western's video club KVIK, which mostly consists of university sports reports and talk shows. He said he had to reject a few scripts because they reflected comments that were too controversial.

"We don't want to get into sex, drugs and politics," Baird said.

Hoover said any member of the community can call the FCC and report anything they find offensive on public airwaves.

Portland's KBOO FM radio station received one complaint from one listener in 1999 for playing the Sarah Jones song "My Revolution," a feminist social commentary that uses sexual metaphors. The FCC fined the station approximately $7,000 based on that complaint, Hoover said. She said the courts did not overturn the case until this year.

"(The complaint) was one person's value; it wasn't the community's value," Hoover said.


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Easy Mac
01-12-2004, 02:15 PM
No, I'll literally shoot the moose if I hear him again.

dacman
01-12-2004, 02:19 PM
I literally can't get that MadTV skit with Nicole Sullivan (yowsa) out of my head. Literally

BishopMVP
01-12-2004, 04:15 PM
Now I can't get the image out of my mind of Manning literally electricuting the Chiefs defense. Hell, they probably deserve it anyway.

"Coach McKay, what do you think about the execution of your team today?"

"Hell, I'm all for it."

:D

Glengoyne
01-12-2004, 06:05 PM
I have caught myself doing this a number of times. It has seeming become the common usage to preface a metaphor with the word literally instead of figuratively.

As in "he is literally in over his head".

I try to avoid this usage now. Although, I'll bet that with a little effort I can elevate my hatred of this to where it becomes a pet peeve. Like "Nucular" Power /cringe

Maple Leafs
01-13-2004, 02:05 PM
While we're at it, could we also do something about "proverbial"?

"The Carolina Panthers have become the proverbial team that nobody wants to play!"

Um, which specific proverb would that be from?

cuervo72
01-13-2004, 02:16 PM
I literally can't get that MadTV skit with Nicole Sullivan (yowsa) out of my head. Literally

I finally pieced together who the voice of Princess Mira Nova is on Buzz Lightyear of Star Command - thank you.

This is like the radio commercial for taco bell they have now:

"You literally inhaled that buritto."
"No, I didn't. If I literally inhaled the buritto, I'd be dead."

Now...if these idiots would stop using the term "untracked".

UNTRACKED
WordNet Dictionary
Definition: [adj] lacking pathways; "trackless wilderness"; "roadless areas"
Synonyms: inaccessible, pathless, roadless, trackless, unaccessible, untrod, untrodden


Yes, I'm sure that's what you mean, fuckwits.

jaeenox
01-13-2004, 02:17 PM
My two favorites are "whether or not" instead of the correct "whether" and athleticism which is not a word. One of the sports writers\broadcasters attempted to track down the origin of the word athleticism a few years ago after it started appearing regularly in print and on television. It was a rather amusing piece of "investigative" journalism.

Ksyrup
01-13-2004, 02:20 PM
It's in the dictionary. That's good enough for me.


Main Entry: ath·let·ic
Pronunciation: ath-'le-tik, ÷"a-th&-'le-
Function: adjective
Date: 1636
1 : of or relating to athletes or athletics
2 : characteristic of an athlete; especially : VIGOROUS, ACTIVE
3 : MESOMORPHIC
4 : used by athletes
- ath·let·i·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb
- ath·let·i·cism /-'le-t&-"si-z&m/ noun

cthomer5000
01-13-2004, 02:24 PM
Now...if these idiots would stop using the term "untracked".



Yes, I'm sure that's what you mean, fuckwits.


Holy lord does that one make me furious. Wouldn't the athlete want to get on track?

He just needs to get untracked!

Ksyrup
01-13-2004, 02:25 PM
If I was on a track to nowhere, I'd want to get untracked.

It depends on the track the person starts on.

Scholes
01-13-2004, 02:55 PM
Did anyone ever read that article that Steve Rushin wrote for SI on this topic (use of the world literal)?

I checked his archives but couldn't find it. Anyway, he found a bunch of instances just like the Manning one and put them all in an article and ripped the state of sportswriting for a while.

Samdari
01-13-2004, 03:17 PM
Athleticism is literally a word.

What annoys me is the extra syllable inserted into all forms of this word.

Instead of

ath·let·ic or ath·let·i·cism

we hear

ath·a·let·ic or ath·a·let·i·cism

sterlingice
01-13-2004, 03:54 PM
I finally pieced together who the voice of Princess Mira Nova is on Buzz Lightyear of Star Command - thank you.

Someone, point this man towards imdb! :)

Ok, I'll do it: www.imdb.com

As a side note, the voice acting community for tv shows is a pretty small one. There are only a few "sets" of people who do projects and each one tends to stay with the same company. For instance, Nicole Sullivan does Disney stuff and is working on Kim Possible at the moment.

For movies, you can get most anyone, particularly if you are Pixar or another big name because they have a big budget so that's why you always hear pretty big name stars in most animated movies these days- it's easy work and quick cash.

SI

Easy Mac
01-13-2004, 03:56 PM
I heard cthomer literally has a trout in his rectum

cthomer5000
01-13-2004, 03:58 PM
I heard cthomer literally has a trout in his rectum

Hopefully it won't last long, he just needs to get untracked.

Ksyrup
01-13-2004, 04:12 PM
Someone, point this man towards imdb! :)

Ok, I'll do it: www.imdb.com

As a side note, the voice acting community for tv shows is a pretty small one. There are only a few "sets" of people who do projects and each one tends to stay with the same company. For instance, Nicole Sullivan does Disney stuff and is working on Kim Possible at the moment.

For movies, you can get most anyone, particularly if you are Pixar or another big name because they have a big budget so that's why you always hear pretty big name stars in most animated movies these days- it's easy work and quick cash.

SI

The chick that does Bart Simpson is on Rugrats.

Speaking of cartoon voiceovers, anyone know what happened to the guy who did Cornfed from Duckman? I loved that guy!

Easy Mac
01-13-2004, 04:14 PM
Gregg Berger

He does voices for video games

pskov
01-13-2004, 04:17 PM
Speaking of cartoon voiceovers, anyone know what happened to the guy who did Cornfed from Duckman? I loved that guy!
Literally?

sterlingice
01-13-2004, 04:23 PM
The chick that does Bart Simpson is on Rugrats.

Speaking of cartoon voiceovers, anyone know what happened to the guy who did Cornfed from Duckman? I loved that guy! http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0074185/

Duckman just had moments of genius but they were usually surrounded by a lot of stupid. Still, when the show was on, it was damn good.

SI

Ksyrup
01-13-2004, 04:29 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0074185/

Duckman just had moments of genius but they were usually surrounded by a lot of stupid. Still, when the show was on, it was damn good.

SI


Yep. that's one I'd like to get on DVD. I haven't checked, has it been released?

Plus, I've been hot for Nancy Travis since So I Married an Axe Murderer.

sterlingice
01-13-2004, 05:43 PM
Well, we're already really far off the beaten path so I'll add in that two other now-Comedy Central shows will be going to DVD at the end of the month: both The Critic and Dilbert complete series can be picked up for about $35 each at Amazon.

SI

cthomer5000
01-13-2004, 05:51 PM
Well, we're already really far off the beaten path so I'll add in that two other now-Comedy Central shows will be going to DVD at the end of the month: both The Critic and Dilbert complete series can be picked up for about $35 each at Amazon.

SI

Awesome. I am so there for The Critic.

dawgfan
01-13-2004, 06:24 PM
Literally?

Well, no - they couldn't get their bedroom problems untracked.