Fritz note: New Music Express (NME) is an excellent british weekly.


The full NME 100 greatest albums of all time are as follows:

1. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses

2. Pixies - Doolittle*

3. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

4. Television - Marquee Moon

5. The Beatles - Revolver

6. Love - Forever Changes

7. The Strokes - Is This It

8. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead*

9. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico

10. The Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks*

11. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless

12. The Clash - London Calling*

13. Oasis - Definitely Maybe

14. Joy Division - Closer*

15. Nirvana - In Utero

16. Radiohead - OK Computer

17. Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space

18. Blondie - Parallel Lines*

19. Nirvana - Nevermind

20. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells

21. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground

22. New Order - Technique

23. Primal Scream - Screamadelica

24. The Beatles - The Beatles (AKA The White Album)

25. The Smiths - Strangeways, Here We Come*

26. David Bowie - Low

27. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On

28. The Verve - A Northern Soul

29. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back

30. Massive Attack - Blue Lines

31. Pixies - Surfer Rosa*

32. The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers

33. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP

34. Patti Smith - Horses

35. Jeff Buckley - Grace

36. Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express

37. Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory

38. Scott Walker - Scott 4

39. Ramones - Ramones*

40. Coldplay - A Rush Of Blood To The Head

41. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

42. The Stooges - Fun House

43. David Bowie - Hunky Dory

44. Radiohead - The Bends

45. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV

46. The Streets - Original Pirate Material

47. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks*

48. REM - Automatic For The People*

49. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation*

50. Blur - Parklife

51. The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow*

52. The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St

53. Slint - Spiderland

54. The Smiths - The Smiths*

55. Aphex Twin - Richard D James Album

56. Jay-Z - The Blueprint

57. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure

58. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers

59. The Specials - The Specials

60. Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers

61. The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs

62. Pulp - His 'N' Hers

63. Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis

64. Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left

65. Duran Duran - Rio

66. The Flying Burrito Brothers - The Gilded Palace Of Sin

67. Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman

68. Dexys Midnight Runners - Searching For The Young Soul Rebels

69. Andrew WK - I Get Wet

70. The Verve - Urban Hymns

71. Eminem - The Slim Shady LP

72. AC/DC - Back In Black*

73. Michael Jackson - Off The Wall

74. The White Stripes - Elephant

75. Lou Reed - Transformer*

76. Pulp - This Is Hardcore

77. The Coral - The Coral

78. Suede - Dog Man Star

79. The Clash - The Clash*

80. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush*

81. The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy

82. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)

83. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks

84. De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising

85. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed

86. David Bowie - Heroes

87. The Slits - Cut

88. Primal Scream - Exterminator

89. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions

90. Leonard Cohen - Songs Of Love And Hate*

91. Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R

92. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92

93. Joni Mitchell - Hejira

94. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home*

95. Pink Floyd - Piper At The Gates Of Dawn

96. The Vines - Highly Evolved

97. PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea*

98. Madonna - Like A Prayer

99. The Congos - Heart Of The Congos

100. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up

Are the Stone Roses really THAT good?

And apparently this mag's never heard of Pavement either.

I don't understand Doolittle over Surfer Rosa at all.

Originally posted by stevew
And apparently this mag's never heard of Pavement either.

You can only get so good when ripping off Lou Reed.

Nevermind the Bollocks before London Calling? booooo!

hell, The Clash S/T should be ahead of it

I own exactly two of those albums...

I own exactly one of these, and I'm afraid to admit which one it is.

Originally posted by Tasan
I own exactly one of these, and I'm afraid to admit which one it is.

It's OK Tasan, show your true colors... :D

73. Michael Jackson - Off The Wall

when multiple bands have multiple albums on a list, especially early, you have to feel that the list was weighted unfairly.

Originally posted by Suicane75
when multiple bands have multiple albums on a list, especially early, you have to feel that the list was weighted unfairly.


Espeicially when one of those bands is Lame Ass Oasis. :o

Originally posted by mckerney
Espeicially when one of those bands is Lame Ass Oasis. :o

And not even their best album IMO.

The 100 best punk/alternative/underground albums of all time?

what?!?! no Blood Sugar Sex Magik from RHCP?!?? That list means nothing. especially when it doens't have Kiss "Alive". i mean, these are only some of the most important albums of their genre.

it even has Jay-Z's "Blueprint" ahead of Wu-Tang's "Enter the 36 Chambers". that album only helped shaped hip-hop in the 90's and beyond. it has albums by The Congo's (???) and The Vines, but no Smashing Pumpkins "Siamese Dream" or Van Halen "Van Halen I".

yes, a very credible and well researched compilation they have there. i shit on that list.

Originally posted by cthomer5000
You can only get so good when ripping off Lou Reed.


Apparently you can get all the way to the #7 album of all time, while ripping off Mike Patton is only good enough for #69.

But seriously, does anybody actually listen to Patti Smith or Leonard Cohen? I'd rather eat Arby's.

The Strokes?

lol.


ANDREW W.K, ha.

Credibility gone.

Now I enjoy AWK, he's got a great rock show, but dude, all his songs are the same.

This is obviously not as great as you believe.

Originally posted by mckerney
Espeicially when one of those bands is Lame Ass Oasis. :o

Up there twice.


And no, I won't say why I noticed that




;- )

How the hell is In Utero above Nevermind?

Thats idiotic.

Nevermind revolutionized rock.

James Brown? Sly and the Family Stone? Black Sabbath? Devo? Husker Du? Minutemen? Talking Heads? Jimi Hendrix? The Band? The Kinks? The Who? Chuck Berry? Elvis? Bo Diddley? Parliament/Funkadelic? Hank Jr.? George Jones?

I can forgive a modern british rag for ignoring whole genres like soul and country, but there are still some glaring ommissions.

Of course, these lists are meant to spark conversation more than anything else, and on that front they've succeeded.

No Tiny Tim on this list either?
What album was Tip Toe Thru The Tullips on? The Kids were mad crazy when that joint dropped.

Originally posted by Ramzavail
Nevermind revolutionized rock.

Even as a big Nirvana fan, I don't really believe that at all.

.. Nirvana was overrated, sorry to say.

Give me Alice in Chains or Mudhoney from Seattle at that time, Nirvana was probably 4th out of 5 (Behind Soundgarden, ahead of Peral Jam).

Just trying to be a rock realist.

I'll pass on the "I disagree with this item from the list of 100 so they are idiots" comments, which are always the rage with these. Rather, just a couple of comments:


I always think it's tough to build "all time" lists and make a fair attempt to place things from the very recent past. It's hard to say whether we have the proper perspective to place anyone from the last 2-4 years onto a list like this, it seems -- as "standing the test of time" is rightly one of the ingredients for greatness.


Given the apparent slant of the writers, my biggest surprise is probably that Pink Floyd is so meagerly represented. I'm not surprised they'd pick Piper as their top album, but I might have thought two or three of theirs would be on the list - given their art-rock influence.

the NME is dross and has been for years. you may as well ask the writers of "Boogers Weekly" for their top 100, it would be just as relevant.

Originally posted by cthomer5000
I don't understand Doolittle over Surfer Rosa at all.

This is God writing.

You have passed the test and will be admitted into heaven when its your time. You have a hall pass from this day forward.

It would be interesting to see one of these music mags try a top 100 "most influential" albums list. It would force them to leave off very recent stuff, and would allow them a convenient out for albums most people would be screaming to have on there.

Originally posted by cthomer5000
It would be interesting to see one of these music mags try a top 100 "most influential" albums list. It would force them to leave off very recent stuff, and would allow them a convenient out for albums most people would be screaming to have on there.

Here's the problem with this list, it has no rhyme or reason, except a high influx of more recent British acts (Coldplay, the Coral, Oasis) or overhyped by the British media (the Strokes, White Stripes, the Vines)...hey I enjoyed Is this It?, but top 100, no...

I've seen the Slits on almost every British mag (Mojo, Q, NME) in the top 100, no disrespect, I'm sure they did influence other women to perform punk, but hell, even Hole, the Runaways, Sleater-Kinney, I mean, even the Supremes, Gladys Knight, Aretha Franklin, Patsy Cline, Dusty Springfield, could have cracked the top 100 over this band with 2 albums to their name (the latter far more than the former).

I enjoy Oasis, I remember watching 120 minutes and seeing Supersonic, did it revolutionize rock, no, but it did lead the 2nd British invasion (enter Radiohead, Blur, the London Suede, Spritialized, Stone Roses etc), but top 100? Nope.

As for influence, then we have to figure on Robert Johnson, Albert King, Freddie King, country influences like Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, etc...

I dunno, I hate top 100 lists without boundaries, top 100 lists for each decade would still be hard

A Bob Marley album is not top 100?

Originally posted by cthomer5000
I don't understand Doolittle over Surfer Rosa at all.

I always preferred Doolittle over Surfer Rosa. In fact, I no longer own Surfer Rosa...but have kept Doolittle.

Originally posted by Ramzavail

Nevermind revolutionized rock.

I've listened to that album. I found nothing legendary about it. I have not listened to it in a long time. What exactly did it change about rock?

Nevermind introduced the Seattle grunge scene to the Pop Top 40. That's about it.

here we go again with the fucking revisionists. ugh.

Nevermind stacked up against any of the greatest rock albums of all time may not be in the top 10, or even top 20, i'll give you that.

the album in and of itself isn't straight from the cherubs of heaven.

but this is why it has it's place in rock history.

it's revolutionary for it's time.

when you have an album that was nothing like the music that came before it and forever changed music after it - it's revolutionary. things could never be the same after Nevermind, OK Computer, Blood Sugar Sex Magik, Van Halen I, Never Mind The Bollocks/The Ramones, etc.

given the shitty state of music at the time of the early 90's, Nevermind lit the airwaves on fire and was the definite face of a new type of music - grunge. Nevermind in the mid-90's may have been just another awesome album. but no. it was one of the first of it's kind and helped usher in music for a new decade.

Originally posted by Qwikshot
I enjoy Oasis, I remember watching 120 minutes and seeing Supersonic, did it revolutionize rock, no, but it did lead the 2nd British invasion (enter Radiohead, Blur, the London Suede, Spritialized, Stone Roses etc), but top 100? Nope.

On a British list I think Oasis probably deserve their places in the Top 100. Maybe they should not be so high on the list, but I think that they need to be somewhere on the list.

for personal reasons, i reserve a special place for Oasis. my best friend and i used to hang out at all hours getting drunk in his basement listening to Oasis.

top 100 of all time, no. my personal top 20, yes.

and come to thnk of it - Marshal Mathers LP or Slim Shady over any Beastie Boys album?!? i'm not commenting anymore on this list, it's complete shit. no album that doesn't have Sgt. Peppers in it as the #1 (i don't own it but it's just general consensus that that is the best rock album of all time) and leaves out Beastie Boys while having Jay-Z and Eminem in it is useless.

any Beastie Boys album is hand down more important than whatever Eminem can come up with. ask him what can he make when he's not going for the shock value. you'll find those artists have little to say.

Just though this was interesting

Found at http://www.rocklist.net/nme_writers.htm

100 Top Albums List from NME writers in previous years

1974:

Sgt pepper’s lonely hearts club band - The Beatles
Blond on blond - Bob Dylan
Pet sounds - Beach Boys
Revolver - The Beatles
Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan
Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix
Are you Experienced? - Jimi Hendeix
Abby Road - The Beatles
Sticky Fingers - The Rolling Stones
Music from big pink - The Band
Let it bleed - The Rolling Stones
Layla - Derek & The dominoes
The Velvet underground & Nico - The velvet underground
Golden Decade Vol 1 - Chuck Berry
Rubber soul - The Beatles
Tommy - The Who
Bridge over troubled water - Simon & Garfunkel
Hunky Dory - David Bowie
Beggar’s Banquet - The Rolling Stones
Disraeli Gears - Cream
Piper at the gates of dawn - Pink Floyd
My Generation - The Who
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Crosby, Stills & Nash
The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones
Imagine - John Lennon
Tapestry - Carole King
Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
Freewheelin’ - Bob Dylan
Back in the USA - MC5
Deja Vu - Crosby, Stills & Nash
The Band - The Band
Gasoline Alley - Rod Stewart
A Hard Day’s Night - The Beatles
Every Picture tells a story - Rod Stewart
Led Zeppelin 4 - Led Zeppelin
The Doors - The Doors
In the court of the crimson king - King Crimson
Exile on main street - The Rolling Stones
The Beatles - The Beatles
The Soft Machine - Soft Machine
Hot Rats - Frank Zappa
Traffic - Traffic
Trout Mask Replica - Captain Beefheart
Music from a dolls house - Family
Talking Book - Stevie Wonder
Anthology - Smoky Bacon & The Miracles
Strange Days - The Doors
Led Zeppelin 2 - Led Zeppelin
Otis Blue - Otis Redding
Stand up - Jethro Tull
Impressions, The - Big 16
Love - Forever Changes
Young, Neil - Everybody knows this is Nowhere
Taylor, James - Sweet Baby James
Byrds, The - Fifth Dimension
Wings - Band on the Run
Bowie, David - The Man who sold the World
Mothers of Invention, The - We're Only in it for the Money
Rolling Stones, The - Get your Ya-Yas out
Beck, Jeff, Group - Beck-Ola
Stooges, Iggy & the - Raw Power
Beach Boys, The - Smiley Smile
Morrison, Van - Astral Weeks
Velvet Underground, The - Loaded
Franklin, Aretha - Greatest Hits
Beatles, The - With the Beatles
Mitchell, Joni - Blue
Mothers of Invention, The - Freak Out
Young, Neil - After the Gold Rush
Stills, Stephen - Stephen Stills
Winter, Johnny - Johnny Winter and
Cocker, Joe - With a Little Help from my Friends
Yes - The Yes Album
Morrison, Van - Moondance
Rundgren, Todd - A Wizard, a True Star
Lennon, John - Plastic Ono Band
Jefferson Airplane, The - Crown of Creation
Doors, The L.A. Woman
Sly & the Family Stone - There's a Riot Going On
Who, The - Who's Next
Country Joe & the Fish - Electric Music for the Mind & Body
Johnson, Robert - King of the Delta Blues Singers
Beach Boys, The - Best of the Beach Boys Volume 1
Mitchell, Joni - Songs for a Seagull
Mayall's, John, Bluesbreakers - Bluesbreakers
Traffic - Mr Fantasy
Dylan, Bob - Bringing it all back home
Presley, Elvis - Greatest Hits Volume 2
Velvet Underground, The - White Light/White Heat
Moby Grape - Moby Grape
Big Brother & the Holding Co. - Cheap Thrills
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Doctor John - Gris-Gris
Wonder, Stevie - Music of the Mind
Roxy Music - Stranded
Beach Boys, The - Surf's Up
Newman, Randy - 12 Songs
Spirit - The 12 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus
Miller, Steve, Band - Sailor
The Rolling Stones - Goats Head Soup

1985

What’s going on - Marvin Gaye (1971)
Astral Weeks - Van Morrison (1968)
Highway 61 revisited - Bob Dylan (1965)
The Clash - The Clash (1977)
Marquee Moon - Television (1977)
Swardfishtrombones - Tom Waits (1983)
The Band - The Band (1969)
Blond on blond - Bob Dylan (1966)
John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - John Lennon (1970)
Unknown Pleasures - Joy Division (1979)
Revolver - The Beatles (1966)
The sun collection - Elvis Presley (1975)
Never mind the bollocks... - The Sex Pistols (1977)
Forever Changes - Love (1967)
Low - David Bowie (1977)
The velvet underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground (1967)
Solid Gold - James Brown (1977)
Horses - Patti Smith (1975)
Live and lowdown at the Apollo - James Brown (1962)
Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys (1966)
Kind of Blue - Miles Davis (1959)
Bringing it all back home - Bob Dylan (1965)
Otis Blue - Otis Redding (1966)
The Doors - The Doors (1967)
Exile on main street - The Rolling Stones (1972)
Anthology - The Temptations (1974)
Greatest Hits - Aretha Franklin (1977)
Are you experienced - The Jimi Hendrix Experience (1967)
The modern dance - Pere Ubu (1978)
King of the delta blues singers - Robert Johnson (1972)
Imperial Bedroom - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Anthology - Smoky Bacon and the Miracles (1974)
The Beatles - The Beatles (1968)
Searching for the young soul rebels - Dexys Midnight Runners (1980)
White light/White Heat - The Velvet Underground (1968)
Young Americans - David Bowie (1975)
The Poet - Bobby Womack (1982)
Trans-europe Express - Kraftwerk (1977)
Darkness on the edge of town - Bruce Springsteen (1979)
This years model - Elvis Costello & the Attractions (1978)
Another Green World - Brian Eno (1975)
Trout mask replica - Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band (1969)
The man machine - Kraftwerk (1978)
The mothership connection - Parliament (1975)
The cream of Al Green - Al Green (1980)
Let’s get it on - Marvin Gaye (1973)
There’s a riot going on - Sly and the family Stone (1971)
Rocket to Russia - The Ramones (1977)
Greatest Hits - Sly and the family Stone (1970)
Big 16 - The Impressions (1965)
Blood on the tracks - Bob Dylan (1974)
Alan Vega/Martin Rev - Suicide (1980)
Another music in a different kitchen - Buzzcocks (1978)
Closer - Joy Division (1980)
Mad not mad - Madness (1985)
For your pleasure - Roxy Music (1973)
The scream - Siouxie & the Banshees (1980)
The harder they come - Soundtrack featuring Jimmy Cliff
Entertainment! - Gang of four (1980)
The velvet underground - The velvet underground (1969)
3+3 - The Isley Brothers (1973)
The hissing of summer lawns - Joni Mitchell (1975)
“Heroes” - David Bowie (1977)
Meat is murder - The Smiths (1985)
Station to station - David Bowie (1976)
Clear spot - Captain Beefheart and the magic band (1972)
Get Happy! - Elvis Costello & the Attractions (1980)
Fear of music - Talking heads (1979)
Lust for life - Iggy Pop (1977)
Berlin - Lou Reed (1973)
20 Greatest hits - Buddy Holly & the Crickets (1967)
Music from big pink - The Band (1968)
Hard day’s night - The Beatles (1964)
Roxy Music - Roxy Music (1972)
Leave Home - The Ramones (1977)
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane (1957)
Golden Decade vol 1 - Chuck Berry (1972)
The very best of.. - Jackie Wilson
In a silent way - Miles Davis (1969)
Stranded - Roxy Music (1973)
Talking heads ‘77 - Talking heads (1977)
The correct use of soap - Magazine (1980)
Born in the USA - Bruce Springsteen (1983)
Court and spark - Joni Mitchell (1974)
Strange Days - The Doors (1967)
More songs about buildings and food - Talking heads (1978)
LA Woman - The Doors (1971)
Chess masters - Howling Wolf (1981)
Armed Forces - Elvis Costello & the Attractions (1979)
Steve McQueen - Prefab Sprout (1985)
Paris 1919 - John Cale (1973)
Forward onto Zion - The Abyssinians (1977)
My aim is true - Elvis Costello (1977)
Rattlesnakes - Lloyd Cole & the Commotions (1984)
Best of - The Beach Boys (1968)
King Tubbys Meets the rockers uptown - Augustus Pablo (1976)
Rubber soul - The Beatles (1965)
Suicide - Suicide (1977)
The Undertones - The Undertones (1979)

1993

PET SOUNDS The Beach Boys (Capitol, 1966)
REVOLVER The Beatles (Parlophone, 1966)
NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS The Sex Pistols (Virgin, 1977)
WHAT'S GOING ON Marvin Gaye ( Tamla Motown, 1971)
THE STONE ROSES The Stone Roses (Silvertone, 1989)
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO The Velvet Underground ( Verve, 1967)
LONDON CALLING The Clash (CBS, 1979)
THE BEATLES The Beatles (Apple, 1968)
IT TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS TO HOLD US BACK Public Enemy (Def Jam, 1988)
THE QUEEN IS DEAD The Smiths (Rough Trade, 1986)
EXILE ON MAIN STREET The Rolling Stones (Rolling Stones,1972)
NEVERMIND Nirvana (Geffen, 1991)
THE CLASH The Clash (CBS, 1977)
HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED Bob Dylan (Columbia, 1965)
ASTRAL WEEKS Van Morrison (Warners, 1968)
SIGN 'O' THE TIMES Prince (Paisley Park, 1987)
BLONDE ON BLONDE Bob Dylan (Columbia, 1966)
FOREVER CHANGES Love (Elektra, 1968)
THREE FEET HIGH AND RISING De La Soul (Big Life 1989)
CLOSER Joy Division (Factory, 1980)
SCREAMADELICA Primal Scream (Creation, 1991)
LET IT BLEED The Rolling Stones (Decca, 1969)
AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE REM ( WEA, 1992)
THE ELVIS PRESLEY SUN COLLECTION EIvis Presley (RCA, 1975)
THE DOORS The Doors (Elektra, 1967)
MARQUEE MOON Television (Elektra 1977)
PSYCHOCANDY Jesus & Mary Chain (blanco y Negro, 1985)
BLUE Joni Mitchell (Reprise 1972)
ARE YOU EXPERIENCED? The Jimi Hendrix Experience ( Track 1967)
LIVE AT THE APOLLO James Brown (London 1963)
HORSES Patti Smtth (Arista 1975)
INNERVISIONS Stevie Wonder (Tamla Motown 1973)
SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS BAND The Beatles ( Parlophone, 1967)
SONGS FOR SWINGING LOVERS Frank Sinatra (Capitol 1955)
OTIS BLUE Otis Redding (Atcon 1966)
A LOVE SUPREME John Coltrane (lmpulse 1967)
FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET Pubic Enemy (Def Jam 1990)
HUNKY DORY David Bowle (RCA 1971)
BLOOD AND CHOCOLATE Elvis Cosleilo & The Attractions (Imp 1986)
THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIOERS FROM MARS David Bowie (RCA 1972)
HATFUL OF HOLLOW The Smiths (Rough Trade 1984)
TECHNIOUE New Order (Factory 1989)
UNKNOWN PLEASURES Joy Division (Factory 1979)
SURFER ROSA Pixies (4AD 1985)
ADVENTURES BEYOND THE ULTRAWORLD The Orb ( Wau Mr Modo1991)
SURF'S UP The Beach Boys (Stateside 1971)
LUST FOR LIFE Iggy Pop (RCA 1977)
BRINGING IT ALL BACK HOME Bob Dylan (CBS 1965)
WAREHOUSE: SONGS AND STORIES Husker DU ( Warners 1987)
LOW-LIFE New Order (Factory 1985)
MEAVEN UP HERE Echo And The Bunnymen (Korova 1987)
PARALLEL LINES Blondie (Chrysalis 1978)
GRIEVOUS ANGEL Gram Parsons (Reprise 1974)
DUSTY IN MEMPHIS Dusty Springfield (Philips, 1969)
TRANSFORMER Lou Reed (RCA 1973)
LED ZEPPELIN IV Led Zeppelin (Atlantic. 1971)
ALL MOD CONS The Jam (Polydor 1978)
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND The Velvet Underground (MGM 1969)
WE’RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY Mothers Of Invention ( MGM 1967)
HARVEST Neil Young (1972)
SCOTT Scott Walker (Philips 1967)
THE STOOGES The Stooges (EIekira 1969)
EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS KNOWHERE Neil Young (Repfise 1969)
RUBBER SOUL The beatles (Parlophone 1967)
GREATEST HITS Aretha Franklin (Atlantic 1971)
AFTER THE GOLDRUSH NeiI Young (Reprise, 1970)
LOW David Bowie ( RCA, 1977)
REMAIN IN LIGHT Talking Heads (Sire, 1980)
MARCUS GARVEY Burning Spear (Island, 1975)
RAINDOGS Tom Waits (Island, 1985)
DRY Harvey ( Too Pure, 1992)
THE SMITHS The Smiths (Rough Trade, 1984)
LAZER-GUIDED MELODIES Spiritualized (Dedicated, 1992)
FIVE LEAVES LEFT Nick Drake (Island, 1969)
CLEAR SPOT Captain Beefheart (Reprise, 1972)
16 LOVERS LANE The Go-Betweens (Beggars Banquet, 1988)
PINK FLAG Wire (Harvest, 1977)
NATTY DREAD Bob Marley (Island, 1975)
SOUND AFFECTS The Jam (Polydor 1980)
SlSTER Sonic Youth (Blast First 1987)
THE WHITE ROOM The KLF (KLF Communications, 1991)
JUNKYARD The Birthday Party (4AD, 1982)
THE KICK INSIDE Kate Bush (EMI 1978)
SEARCHING FOR THE YOUNG SOUL REBELS Dexy's Midnight Runners (Parlophone, 1980)
BLOOD ON THE TRACKS Bob Dylan (CBS, 1975)
RUM, SODOMY & THE LASH The Pogues (Stiff, 1985)
GIVE 'EM ENOUGH ROPE The Clash (CBS, 1978)
KING OF AMERICA Costello Show (F-Beat, 1986)
TALKING WITH THE TAXMAN ABOUT POETRY Billy Bragg (Go! Discs, 1986)
THIRD/SISTER LOVERS Big Star (Ardent, 1978)
LIKE A PRAYER Madonna (Sire 1959)
READING, WRITING AND ARITHMETIC The Sundays (Rough Trade, 1990)
OFF THE WALL Michael Jackson (Epic 1979)
TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT Neil Young (Reprise, 1975)
THIS NATION'S SAVING GRACE The Fall ( Beggars Banquet 1985)
METAL BOX PIL ( Virgin 1979)
BLUE LINES Massive Attack ( Wild Bunch, 1991)
YOUNGER THAN YESTERDAY The Byrds (CBS 1967)
WHO'S NEXT? The Who ( Track 1971)

Just some interesting points on first look

Revolver has moved from 4(behind Sgt. Pepper's) to 11 to 2 to 5

On a similar note Sgt. Pepper's which was 1 on the first list has fallen off the most recent list

Pet Sounds(probably my favorite album) has gone from 3 to 20 to 1 to 3

Just thought it was interesting to look at the list throughout the years

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
[B]here we go again with the fucking revisionists. ugh.

Nevermind stacked up against any of the greatest rock albums of all time may not be in the top 10, or even top 20, i'll give you that.

the album in and of itself isn't straight from the cherubs of heaven.

but this is why it has it's place in rock history.

it's revolutionary for it's time.

when you have an album that was nothing like the music that came before it and forever changed music after it - it's revolutionary. things could never be the same after Nevermind, OK Computer, Blood Sugar Sex Magik, Van Halen I, Never Mind The Bollocks/The Ramones, etc./B]

It was only revolutionary in the RADIO sense. The music itself wasn't amazingly groundbreaking, it's just that MOST PEOPLE hadn't heard it before.

I am a very big Nirvana fan, but i don't see anything groundbreaking about their stuff. Cobain even said that "smells like teen spirit" was them doing their best Pixies impersonation.

Thank you Hell Atlantic, I couldn't have said it better.

I agree with you in one sense cthomer, but you cannot overlook the state of music at the time and how once Nevermind came out it changed the future of rock and roll.

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
Blood Sugar Sex Magik

I found that to be the least entertaining and interesting release from the Peppers up to that point. I've not enjoyed a release of theirs since then. Oh well. Everybody has a little different taste.

oh stop. that's just genius being humble.

that album will stand the test of time. it has so many different colors and shades. it was made by one of the few genius' we've ever come across in my generation. Lennon and Brian Wilson was for our fathers older borthers (if you're my age, 26). Cobain was ours.

you even say "most people hadn't heard it before". uhhh....that's groundbreaking, then.

but there's other albums i care more about. Blood Sugar Sex Magik is nowhere to be seen. that's tragic. that album, my personal #1, defined my entire teenage years.

i've already planned for the time when i take my future son to the basement right before he goes to high school, bring down some drinks and snacks, and pull out Blood Sugar Sex Magik. everytime he listens to it he'll see his old man lying on his bed as a 15 year old, headphones on, not being able to stop moving his head to the music. he's going to learn of the beauty of that album and what it meant to me as a teen.

that list is retarded. might as well have put N'SYNC on that list.

I agree with the 1974 list but nothing else.

Tekneek, i can't get into an argument with you. John Frusciante is my favorite guitarist of all time. he could pluck a string for 5 minutes straight and just hum and i'd listen to it.

Hilell Slovak was more of a one dimensional guitarist, he was more of a rock guitarist. Frusciante echoed his Slovak influence heavily in the Mother's Millk album, but the Chili Peppers would never evolve with that kind of playing.

to listen to BSSM is to hear the coming of age of a guitarist, his formal emergence as a guitar genius. since then he's taken his playing to another level.

Ace Frehley has always played like Ace Frehley. Angus Young has always sounded like Angus Young. Frusciante has evolved. his evolution into a musical genius (this isn't a fan talking, he's a musical genius) has allowed the mostly 40 year old Chili Peppers to go to another level, one where they don't look like overage, past their prime rocksters *cough*Aerosmith and Stones*cough*, rather, his evolution as a guitarist and songwriter has allowed them to enter a 3rd stage of their music. this music is more mature, not all about frat boy rock, and musically is more complicated and sophisticated than the music they played with Slovak.

alas, Slovak died prematurely, so we'll never know where he could've taken the peppers. BSSM is their best work to date for that funk influenced music that they played so much back then. they've since become more of a rock band. people change, though not everyone can pull it off. ask Metallica. the Chili Peppers are gods in the hall of rock.

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
you even say "most people hadn't heard it before". uhhh....that's groundbreaking, then.

I completely disagree. Those who actually create something new and unique are groudbreaking, those who simply deliver it to the masses are just lucky.

Originally posted by cthomer5000
I completely disagree. Those who actually create something new and unique are groudbreaking, those who simply deliver it to the masses are just lucky.

Yeah, just because some corporate machines got behind Nevermind does not mean it was groundbreaking.

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
Tekneek, i can't get into an argument with you. John Frusciante is my favorite guitarist of all time. he could pluck a string for 5 minutes straight and just hum and i'd listen to it.

Not looking for an argument. I prefer the Peppers the way they were. I don't begrudge them changing their sound, or anything like that, other than I'm not buying it. They make a lot more money off of people (not talking about you) that think BSSM was their very first album than they ever would from me.

"Knock Me Down" and "Behind The Sun" are my favorites from them, at least that I can think of right now. :)

I think that Nirvana made a decent record with Nevermind, but come on, groundbreaking; hardly.

I will continue to stand by my claims that from the Seattle grunge/rock movment, Alice In Chains, Mudhoney and Soundgarden were ahead of Nirvana.

And, the Northwest is going through an underground hardcore/metal change right now too. Bands like Himsa, the Blood Brothers and Anatomy of a Ghost are becoming huge. Himsa and the Blood Brothers hailing from Seattle, while Anatomy is from Oregon. It's crazy how much they've evolved the sound from the early 90's.

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
it's revolutionary for it's time.

when you have an album that was nothing like the music that came before it and forever changed music after it - it's revolutionary. things could never be the same after Nevermind, OK Computer, Blood Sugar Sex Magik, Van Halen I, Never Mind The Bollocks/The Ramones, etc.
If the standard for being revolutionary is that something was unlike anything that came before and things were never the same again, then why aren't the Bee Gees on this list?

Like QS said, I agree that the inclusion of recent material makes it much too difficult to make lists like this. I still think it's too early to judge the lasting impact of a group like Nirvana. If Nirvana can still be selling albums 30 years from now like Elvis and the Beatles, then we'll put Nirvana up there.

Putting stuff like Eminem on a list like this is just silly. While my personal feeling is that his CDs are going to be filling landfills 5 years from now, can any logically argue that albums by Eminem or Oasis are "better" than anything recorded by the Rolling Stones?

Lists like this also give me pause for why the person(s) making the list made certain choices. A month ago, Entertainment Weekly did their list of greaters "tear-jerker" movies of all-time. While not a big fan of tear-jerkers, I review the list and thought they left off some really obvious choices. This week, they published comments from readers complaining about the list along with the top 10 suggestions from readers of films that weren't on the list, along with the reason why the films were left off. Some examples:

* The Color Purple and Saving Private Ryan -- Spielberg was already on the list with E.T.
* Schindler's List -- too "big" for a "schmaltzy" list
* Forrest Gump -- "We knew its absence would elicit letters."
*My Dog Skip -- already had two dog movies

So maybe there's a reason why some of these albums are on the list and where they are on the list that have nothing to do with the quality of the work.

If we look, we're just seeing a cycle again, I can't really listen to hardcore/metal, the hardest I get into is Queens of the Stone Age, I'm more of an anglophile, I like Coldplay, I like Elbow, and I even like The Streets (Britrap, if you could call it that), I'm starting to enjoy Audioslave as well.

But I remember Nevermind, traded it off my brother, and never stopped listening to it...you got to remember, bands like Poison, like Motley Crue, Ratt, Winger, Cinderella, Coverdale/Page, White Snake all these bands were the definition of rock, I never heard Metallica, Motorhead, Pantera...so you see all these hair bands and their bubblegum rock which was meant to appeal to the masses, right down to the standard power ballad by the 3rd or 4th slot selection.

Nirvana blew it away. It seemed far more real, far more genuine, then some L.A. boys talking about drinking, partying, girls...lather, rinse repeat... I mean, jesus, Extreme was a big thing, Mr. Bigg, even Ted Nugent was playing for hair bands...

Cobain made the undersirables heard, the floodgates opened, the underground became mainstream, the mainstream turned to new faces like Brittany Spears, Christian Agularia (sp?), N'Sync, etc...rock bands became a different vein: alternative was born, even though it had been around for ages, now it just was being pacakged for the masses...

Now people are getting sick of the sad rock songs of self loathing, Creed, Staind, Dashboard Confessional, all the emo bands will get put back on the shelf for hard rock and hair/glam rock (Don't believe me: see the Darkness)...it's only the start fellas, the music business follows trends, it Darkness hits it big, the hair bands will rise again...

I mean we just saw the 2nd coming of the British Invasion...psychadelica comes in and out of fashion, even rap is getting the cycle...though OutKast is the shit man, it is amazing to listen to Speakerboxx, just to hear the influences...

still...everyone in the music industry is trying to make it big, underground bands can't thrive unless they sooner or later "sell out", which is a shame...which brings me back to Oasis, here was a band that had no interest in being underground, just mainstream, sellout didn't mean losing artistic integrity because their sole pursuit was selling out, being big rock stars, and for a while everyone believed them (including all of Britain)...it is a amazing to see the rise and fall of that band...

Originally posted by Buccaneer
I agree with the 1974 list but nothing else.

this more to do with you losing your short term memory after your 50th birthday than anything else.

91. Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R


I had a hard time with this ranking, but I am coming around. Didn't much like Rated R, but it finally clicked with me. I take bad any negative thing I said about this album. I still like Songs for the Deaf best, but it's pretty close.

Carry on. Sorry for the necromancy. :)

List is laughable. Oasis above Radiohead...LOL OK. Pink Floyd wall doesnt even make the list? LOL Oh well.

This list is utter crap.

I don't know who the Stone Roses are.

:(

I do own 13 CD's on the list, all of which I think are misplaced.

I really can't believe the strokes are #7. Who has the balls to do that? The highest rolling stones album is #52. Yeah, cause in 5 years the strokes will still be a big deal.

Are the Stone Roses really THAT good?



Simply put: yes



I enjoy Oasis, I remember watching 120 minutes and seeing Supersonic, did it revolutionize rock, no, but it did lead the 2nd British invasion (enter Radiohead, Blur, the London Suede, Spritialized, Stone Roses etc), but top 100? Nope.



The ground for Oasis was laid by The Stone Roses rather than the other way round - the first Roses release to be relatively widely known was Elephant Stone in 1988, 6 years before Definitely Maybe.

Although I think that the Stone Roses paved the way for most of the music I like, and are one of my two or three all time favourite bands, The Stone Roses is not the best album I have now. However it heavily influenced most of what I now like - and therefore I wouldn't argue too much with it at number 1. At the same time as long as it was in top 5/10 I wouldn't argue either.

Somebody mentioned earlier in the thread: this is a list from a British based point of view, and these things are very subjective - the idea is to create debate. Have to agree with the general thread consensus about The Strokes though!

The Stone Roses are missed. :(

That list is a joke.

I read the top 10 and then began laughing..that was 5 minutes ago...and i'm still laughing.

"There's been a lot of talk about this list, maybe, maybe too much talk. This list is not a rebel song..."