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HornedFrog Purple
11-23-2003, 01:46 AM
as you ride off into the sunset. Your possible last game as a college coach a thrilling 52-6 thumping by Arkansas. Thanks Hogs. No offense to any Miss State fans.

Good things come to those who wait.

HornedFrog Purple
11-23-2003, 01:51 AM
oops I am celebrating too early, Ole Miss needs to beat them into the ground on Thanksgiving. Run it up Manning!

GoldenEagle
11-23-2003, 03:11 AM
Yea they still have Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl.

Butter
11-24-2003, 11:08 AM
Here's to hoping that Eli wins the Heisman against Sherrill's sorry ass.

And they can get someone else in there to bring the Bulldogs back to respectability.

Ksyrup
11-24-2003, 11:20 AM
What gives with all of the hostility? Are you guys related to the bull he castrated a couple of years ago?

HornedFrog Purple
11-24-2003, 04:18 PM
heh no. For me to relate my full opinion of Jackie Sherrill would take volumes. The short version is he is a disgrace to the coaching profession. Again it has nothing to do with MSU, it is just him.

Sybot
11-24-2003, 04:33 PM
We'll Eli certainly isn't going to win the Heisman now. He played a fairly poor game vs LSU this past weekend. Mostly due to the LSU defense being so good.

Here's a shirt I took a picture of in the grove before the game with my phone. I believe I might have jinxed his chances. I still liked the shirt nonetheless.

Manning for Heisman Pic (http://sybot.textamerica.com/?r=185378)

MJ4H
11-24-2003, 06:08 PM
I was at the game Saturday and thoroughly enjoyed the thumping as my feelings for Sherril pretty much match HFP's. Tons of fun.

GoldenEagle
11-24-2003, 07:15 PM
Got to love Ole Miss Fans.... :)

Deuce for Heisman! :D

(Any long time SEC Fan should get a kick out of that)

MJ4H
11-24-2003, 08:45 PM
:)

Sybot
11-24-2003, 09:07 PM
Deuce should have had a decent shot at the trophy. But we had the typical Ole Miss 7-4 type season his senior year. So that fell through.

HornedFrog Purple
11-27-2003, 11:04 PM
31-0... Thank you Eli!

Enjoy that 2-10 final season Sherrill.

ice4277
11-28-2003, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
heh no. For me to relate my full opinion of Jackie Sherrill would take volumes. The short version is he is a disgrace to the coaching profession. Again it has nothing to do with MSU, it is just him.

HFP,

Just curious as to what exactly makes so many people dislike Sherill. Listening to some of the game last night on ESPN you would think MSU is losing the greatest guy in the world. I know that's not the case but here in Big Ten country football is only played as far south as Columbus ;) so we sometimes don't get to hear all the juicy stuff.

HornedFrog Purple
11-28-2003, 09:16 AM
First of all, don't believe anything Mark May says, he is a Sherill worshiper.

These are just examples of his coaching greatness:

The last 3 schools he has left in a mess. At Pitt he was nailed for recruiting violations, at A&M he was nailed for the same thing and more and now MSU is getting investigated. Don't be surprised when they get nailed.

There is of course the story of how he got his A&M team inspired to play Texas. He castrated a bull in front of the team.

When he was at A&M, while up 67-10 in a quagmire against TCU with 4 minutes left in the game, he decided to onside kick. His excuse was "I felt we needed to work on our kicking game" or something similar to that bs. After some crazy defensive tackle knocked A&M's kicker into next week during the play, the benches cleared. That crazy defensive tackle spent the next week running the stadium steps. :D

I am sure some SEC folks can tell you more of his idiocy, it is boundless. Good riddance.

Dutch
11-28-2003, 10:28 AM
Wow, some of those things you just going to have to forget! You hate him because he tried an onside kick 20 years ago against a defeated opponent? Shocking.

Besides that, he was the winningest coach in Mississippi State history. Not a big deal, but he gave Miss St fans something to cheer about. Not many times have they been able to watch a competative team.

And also, he castrated a bull while coaching Mississippi State, not Texas A&M. Probably was a little crude, but the bull was scheduled for a castration anyway, so why not use it to fire up his young team, who did beat favored Texas 20-0 or some such.

Anyway, his time was done, he had an interesting career and I guess Joe Paterno can retire happily now.

On why Joe Paterno turned down a job to coach the New England Patriots some 20 years ago. "I would, but who would want to leave the NCAA with coaches like Jackie Sherrill and Barry Switzer to run things?"

See ya around, Jackie.

HornedFrog Purple
12-12-2003, 09:16 PM
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

The last 3 schools he has left in a mess. At Pitt he was nailed for recruiting violations, at A&M he was nailed for the same thing and more and now MSU is getting investigated. Don't be surprised when they get nailed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1681690

Associated Press
JACKSON, Miss. -- A Mississippi State recruit's grandfather told investigators that retired coach Jackie Sherrill offered to provide the player a car, the NCAA said in its report on alleged rules violations by the football program.

The 22-page document, released Monday by the school, lists 13 possible violations that occurred from 1998-02.

Several of the alleged violations involved assistant coach Glenn Davis and former assistant Jerry Fremin giving cash and gifts and offering improper benefits to prospective student-athletes and their families.

Mississippi State's response to the NCAA's notice of allegations, known as an official letter of inquiry, is due by March 2.

Sherrill said in a telephone interview Monday evening that the allegations against him were false.

"I can emphatically tell you that I never said those things or inferred those things," he said. "That is absolutely not accurate."

Athletic director Larry Templeton said the university would not comment on the allegations or the specifics of the investigation until the university's attorneys submit a response.

Mississippi State has been cooperating with the NCAA and assisting with the investigation for the past 2 1/2 years, the university said in a release.

There were no allegations of academic misconduct or of lack of institutional control, the most serious charge that could be brought by the NCAA.

In March, Mississippi State received a preliminary letter of inquiry from the NCAA which said it was looking into the possibility of those types of violations.

Mississippi State hired Sylvester Croom last week to replace Sherrill, making Croom the first black head football coach in the Southeastern Conference.

The Bulldogs are 8-27 since 2001, with just three Southeastern Conference victories. They were 2-10 this season, the school's worst since 1988.

Sherrill, who retired last month after 13 seasons with Mississippi State, was mentioned in two of allegations.

One involved the recruitment of Joseph Scott, a linebacker from Hattiesburg (Miss.) High School who ended up signing with Southern Mississippi. The other involved the recruitment of offensive lineman Chris Spencer, an offensive lineman from Madison Central (Miss.) High School who attends Mississippi.

According the notice of allegations, the mother of a Mississippi State student-athlete told Scott's grandmother, Ardasene Scott, during a phone conversation that Sherrill got her son "a nice ride."

During another telephone conversation, Ardasene Scott asked Fremin if Sherrill would obtain a vehicle for her grandson. Fremin told the woman that Sherrill would discuss that matter during Joseph Scott's official visit to Mississippi State and "take care of it," according to the NCAA's report.

On Scott's official visit, Sherrill told Scott's grandfather that he was "working on what they had been talking about," the report states.

Scott's grandfather told his wife that their grandson would not attend Mississippi State because he believed Sherrill offered them a car, the report stated.

Scott transferred from Southern Miss, played in junior college and is now attending Jackson State.

In the other case involving Sherrill, Spencer's stepfather, Ben Wallace, said Sherrill told him that he would make sure that Spencer and his family were taken care of, and that if Wallace was in need of employment or anything, to call Sherrill, the NCAA report stated.

Fremin, who worked as an offensive line coach for Mississippi State for four seasons, was accused in the report of paying travel and lodging expenses for an unofficial recruitment visit Scott made to Starkville.

The report also alleged that Fremin arranged for a Mississippi State booster to make improper contact with recruits and arrange impermissible employment for prospective student-athletes.

Fremin resigned in March 2001. The university cited health reasons.

On his attorney's recommendation, Fremin declined to comment on the report.

Among the allegations against Davis, he's accused of giving a recruit, Kenneth Griffith of Brandon High School, $800 to pay for summer school classes Griffith needed to be able to satisfy the NCAA's initial eligibility requirements.

Davis denied any wrongdoing when the allegation was first reported by a newspaper in April.

Griffith signed with Southern Miss, but ended up attending junior college.

Mississippi State's football program was found guilty of major NCAA infractions in 1996 and received one year probation and a loss of scholarships.

After Sherrill was forced out at Texas A&M in 1988, the Aggies were hit hard by NCAA sanctions for dozens of violations that occurred during Sherrill's time in College Station.

Because the current allegations go back to 1998, Mississippi State could be dealt with as a repeat violator by the NCAA, which could lead to harsher penalties being imposed.

You think winning a few times in the Egg Bowl is worth the mess he left MSU in Dutch?

Dutch
12-12-2003, 11:26 PM
[Chris Rock]Now I don't condone what he did.....but I understand....[/Chris Rock]

Tigercat
12-12-2003, 11:37 PM
I can honestly say i despise Sherrill, DESPITE the fact that LSU OWNED him, esp at MSU. He should have been fired at the latest before this past year, but Mississippi State fans were out there enough to believe in him. Hes a sleezy guy. An overrated head coach. He took good HS players, bent the rules to get them qualified(and we are talking bending the rules MUCH more than most coaches do), and then more often than not couldn't develop the players.(see Dontae Walker) What is there for a college football fan to like in Sherrill?(well maybe if you think the whole castration thing is cool...)