View Full Version : OT: When is a loss a good result in sport...?
kiwiLB57
06-10-2003, 01:07 AM
When the 51st ranked soccer nation plays away to the 10th ranked soccer nation and loses 2-1 after a messy buildup highlighted by excessive travel and player commitments to club.
Nice work the All Whites. Good luck to the USA for the Confederations Cup.
kiwiDE57
P.S. I used to hate soccer until I spent 6 months in Europe and saw a couple of games including Ajax vs Utrecht and Ajax vs Den Bosch.
This kind of got me enthused a little. Until I got CM 01/02 which has now made me a reasonable fan of the game. Love CM 01/02. The game actually got me into the sport... Still hate baseball, even after being addicted to OOTP3.
JeeberD
06-10-2003, 01:13 AM
Yeah, soccer, OK...
Sooo....how's your sister doin'? :D
LMAO@JeeberD
I'm telling :)
JeeberD
06-10-2003, 01:50 AM
I would make some witty reply saying something about getting you in trouble with your wife, but I don't want to get us banned as trolls (like skippy was suggesting should happen to us)... :rolleyes:
neofied
06-10-2003, 02:07 AM
A loss in sports also is a pretty good thing when you bet against the loser or something to that effect. I've bet against teams I like on many occasions, if only to get the better odds and the better payout.
Happy29
06-10-2003, 02:35 AM
A loss in sport is good, that is if you're a member of a losing team, and bet on the team that isnt going home sobbing. Look at the 1919 World Series.
neofied
06-10-2003, 02:37 AM
Good point Happy29. Of course, the loss becomes bad when you get caught and banished from the game forever.
Happy29
06-10-2003, 02:40 AM
Poor, poor Pete Rose.
neofied
06-10-2003, 02:43 AM
Or Shoeless Joe Jackson, who many claim was innocent of any wrongdoing in the Black Sox scandel. I remember writing a report on it in high school, watching Eight Men Out, and thinking how insane it was to thing such a great ballplayer would do something like that.
Happy29
06-10-2003, 02:47 AM
But with all the "honesty" these days. It'd sure be hard for any of our modern players and coaches to do the same. Note the " "
neofied
06-10-2003, 02:51 AM
I sometimes wonder if betting takes place in professional sports today. Something tells me that many games may very well be fixed, but that most of the transgressions happen behind the scenes and far from the public eye.
Maple Leafs
06-10-2003, 08:59 AM
Actually, a loss is a good result in the NHL as long as it happens in overtime. Thanks to the "exciting" new OT rules introduced last year, teams can lose and still get points! Yay! We're all winners!
P.S. You have a team called the All-Whites? Wait until Johnnie Cochrane gets a hold of this...
albionmoonlight
06-10-2003, 09:23 AM
A loss is also good in the following 2 situations:
1.) Finally make the ownership/management of your team realize that a change is needed.
2.) When it makes Jim Mora say funny things like "diddly-poo."
Marmel
06-10-2003, 09:49 AM
As far as I am concerned the only good loss is when the winning team does not cover the point spread and you are laying steam on the underdogs. :)
scooper
06-10-2003, 09:51 AM
When it's the Cowboys.
cuervo72
06-10-2003, 10:20 AM
When you're looking to increase your number of ping pong balls for the lottery.
When it results in a more favorable playoff matchup.
thealmighty
06-10-2003, 11:11 PM
NEVER
JeeberD
06-10-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by scooper
When it's the Cowboys.
I think you meant 49ers, Lakers, Yankees, or Notre Dame...
Kodos
06-11-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by scooper
When it's the Cowboys.
God bless you. I can almost forgive you for liking Notre Dame. But not really. :)
Buzzbee
06-11-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by JeeberD
I think you meant 49ers, Lakers, Yankees, or Notre Dame...
I heart JeeberD.
MAN! I NEVER thought I would type THAT!! :eek:
tucker342
06-11-2003, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by scooper
When it's the Cowboys.
Couldn't agree more(Cowboys suck)!
cthomer5000
06-11-2003, 06:29 PM
I think you could argue that some losses are a good thing when it starts a chain reaction that is ultimately positive. I guess the Tampa Bay Buccaneers losing to Philly in the playoffs for the 2nd straight year was a good thing (Indy would probably agree).
And there are tons of infamous games that cost coaches their jobs, but ultimately might be seen as a positive. The Giants-Eagles Joe Picsarcik fumble game comes to mind.
Happy29
06-12-2003, 02:50 AM
Losses are a good thing in NASCAR, some drivers are just happy finishing in the top 5 ::cough cough, Dale Earnhardt Jr.:: and only gun for the win when they know they have a fast car. Even if they do finish in the top 5 or top 10 the driver and his crew knew they did their best, even though their fans will surely raise hell.
neofied
06-12-2003, 02:53 AM
Don't forget Indy Racing, CART, Grand Prix and horse racing. Coming close still counts for something in all of those. You could finish out of first place in all of those and still go home with a decent check.
Happy29
06-12-2003, 02:58 AM
Drivers in NASCAR get $1.5 million for winning the Daytona 500, the second place guy gets $1 million and it goes down from there. The lowest amount you could get is probably around 70 thousand to 100 thousand, so if you were to attempt one race in the entire season and lose it, it'd be the Daytona 500.
If you were strapped for cash that is.... Look at how Ryan Newman in the 12 feels !
Before:
http://www.skfriends.com/photogallery/daytona-ryan-newman/005%20n01.jpg
After:
http://www.haroldhinson.com/photos/0313hh3490.jpg
neofied
06-12-2003, 03:05 AM
I almost forgot golf, tennis and bowling.
Happy29
06-12-2003, 03:08 AM
and glorious sport of ..... spelling-bees ! The damn 2nd place kid still gets $5000 for his or her college fund.
neofied
06-12-2003, 03:10 AM
If ESPN airs it, it must be a sport. Good one.
Happy29
06-12-2003, 03:11 AM
Heck, they even air Gymnastic competitions and Japanese sumo-wrestling. Typing on a computer could even be a competitive sport !
neofied
06-12-2003, 03:12 AM
I guess I better write to ESPN and tell them to start showing games from various text-based leagues.
Happy29
06-12-2003, 03:16 AM
and tell them to cover the games and exploit more young athletes. Hell, why not cover some Little league basketball game with this three year old who they think could be the next Michael Jordan. Hey, as long as it sells tickets and boosts ratings !
neofied
06-12-2003, 03:18 AM
You mean like the Lebron James high school games?
Happy29
06-12-2003, 03:19 AM
Yes, they'll probably cover the local races of the next Earnhardt kid.
kiwiLB57
06-15-2003, 04:10 PM
Maple Leaf:
P.S. You have a team called the All-Whites? Wait until Johnnie Cochrane gets a hold of this...
They are traditionally called the All-Whites because their playing strip is usually All-White. Pretty much a strictly Pakeha sport over here with Heremia Ngata being the only Maori player of note.
The team name follows the pattern for naming National New Zealand sports sides started by the All-Blacks (Rugby Union side) who wear an all black strip. The ethnic makeup of the national rugby side fluctates with form, but the Polynesian peoples make up a good chunk of the side...
JeeberD - my sister is good, currently studying hard for her exams (she is sitting one today). :D
kiwiDE57
Blackadar
06-15-2003, 06:14 PM
When my Norwich squad loses 2-1 at Old Trafford against Man U.
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